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Several Stand Out Among DB Class At Combine

Posted by Mike Wobschall on February 27, 2013 – 7:39 am

The bad news for NFL defensive coordinators is that the wide receivers put on an impressive display during their on-field work out Sunday at the 2013 Scouting Combine. The good news for NFL defensive coordinators is that the men who will become responsible for covering those wide receivers – the defensive backs – also put on an impressive display during their work out at the Combine on Tuesday.

From Dee Milliner cementing his status as the class’ top cornerback, to Desmond Trufant following up a solid Senior Bowl week with a solid Combine performance, to several lesser-known players putting themselves on the map, the outstanding performances were abundant.

Let’s take a look at some of the individuals who stood out during the DB on-field workout on Tuesday…

CB Dee Milliner (Alabama)
Milliner was thought to be the top cornerback heading into the Combine, and his performance in Indianapolis all but eliminated any doubt of that. He answered any questions regarding his speed by registering the 2nd-fastest 40-yard dash time, and then he was solid-not-sensational in the on-field drill work. He appeared to fight the ball and struggle with drops at times, but overall it was a solid day for Milliner. Here’s how NFL.com’s Bucky Brooks described Milliner’s day: “Milliner displayed outstanding footwork and movement skills in the positional drills. He smoothly executed transitions and turns in space, showing excellent balance and body control. Thought he struggled handling the ball, but those concerns can be assuaged at Alabama’s pro day next month.”

CB Desmond Trufant (Washington)
The younger brother of two NFL players, Trufant was perhaps the best cornerback at the Senior Bowl last month and he was also a top performer at the Combine within his position group. He finished with the 3rd-fastest 40-yard dash, the 2nd-best 20-yard shuttle time and he also put up impressive numbers in the vertical and broad jumps.

CB Robert Alford (Southeastern Louisiana)
One of my favorite players at the Senior Bowl, Alford had a quiet-but-good Combine performance. He had the 4th-best 40-yard dash time and broad jump, was 3rd among all cornerbacks in the bench press and was one of just seven players with a vertical leap of 40+ inches. Here’s part of the NFL.com scouting report on Alford: “His willingness to press, compete for balls downfield, and support the run –- as well as fair size, overall athleticism, and potential return ability will make him a highly sought-after player.”

CB Xavier Rhodes (Florida State)
Had Milliner struggled in Indianapolis, Rhodes stood the best chance to leap-frog him as this class’ top cornerback. As it turns out, Milliner is fortunate to have performed so well because Rhodes did in fact impress at the Combine. Rhodes, a 3-year starter at Florida State, has great size at 6-1, 210 pounds, and he’s known as an excellent press-coverage corner who excels in man-to-man situations. But he also proved his has movement skills and explosive ability to go with it. Rhodes’ 40-time was sufficient to eliminate concerns about his speed, his vertical leap was tied for 1st among all defensive backs and his broad jump was 5th-best among his group.

CB Tyrann Mathieu (LSU)
I wrote about him on Tuesday evening. Click here to read that report. If you don’t want to do that, the bottom line on Mathieu’s Combine performance is that he was one of the day’s top performers. He was solid-not-sensational in the timed and measured activities, but he was indeed sensational during the position-specific drills. He displayed a confidence and a swagger that reminds you he was at one time arguably the best defensive player in college football, which makes teams’ opinions of his interview performance even more important. Here’s what Brooks said of Mathieu: “[He] created some positive momentum with his standout performance at the combine…Not only was his (40-yard dash) time adequate for the position, it indicated that he is a more explosive athlete than most expected him to be after watching him on tape. Mathieu also surprised scouts with his solid footwork and fundamentals in positional drills.”

CB Johnthan Banks (Mississippi State) and S Kenny Vaccaro (Texas)
On the flip side of the 4 standout performers mentioned above, we have Banks and Vaccaro. Banks came into the Combine looking to establish himself as the top cornerback, but his 40-time was not impressive and he wasn’t sharp in the position-specific drills. Brooks said of Banks: “Although Banks still has an opportunity to make amends at his pro day in a few weeks, he will certainly see his stock dip a little after the combine.” As for Vaccaro, the favorite to be the first safety taken in the draft, he didn’t reinforce the notion that many have of him being a versatile safety with corner-type cover skills. As Brooks says, he’ll need to produce better timed results to make teams feel comfortable applying a 1st-round grade to him.


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212 Responses to “Several Stand Out Among DB Class At Combine”

  1. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1545334-exploring-the-best-possible-packages-the-vikings-could-fetch-for-percy-harvin#/articles/1545334-exploring-the-best-possible-packages-the-vikings-could-fetch-for-percy-harvin

  2. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Ponder chat….

    http://min.scout.com/2/1270082.html

  3. By vikes on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    I think Gratz from Uconn would be a solid pick up with a 3-5th round pick, great showing at combine and had success in college

  4. By Mike B. on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    There’s a lot of mixed messages being sent out about Harvin. I guess the only one that really knows would be Spielman and Harvin. I think it could be a wait and see what Harvin is going to do attitude. I also agree with others that this 23rd pick may not be a need pick, but a best player availible. I am hoping it’s a need, but it’s possible they pick a RB, TE, or QB depending how they fall. The moves will start happening soon and it should be fun. I woud like to see the Vikings take a WR, LB, DT, and OG in the draft or FA. I think CB is also a need, but we have a lot of youth there now.

  5. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1544820-huge-red-flags-that-emerged-from-the-2013-nfl-combine#/articles/1544820-huge-red-flags-that-emerged-from-the-2013-nfl-combine

  6. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Slay caught my eye during the combine…

  7. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    vikes ….

    I think Gratz goes for sure by round 3…I can even see him go late in the second round after the combine…

  8. By BlueBird7 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    OK, Ponder. Let us see if you will have any of the “Golden Touch” left for 2013.

  9. By liito on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Vikes Management, please go for quality players, not just quantity. Not a handful of great players and a bunch of mediocre players that you hope may turn out to be good players someday. Get help. I hope you have a good draft and a decent free agent pick-up.

  10. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Alex Smith a done deal to the Chiefs for a second round pick, and a future draft pick…

    Could that second round pick turn into a deal for Harvin ???…

    That second round pick gives the 49ers 15 draft picks in this springs draft….

  11. By Parkway on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    9ers are set to win a few superbowls now with what they have and all those picks

  12. By Dr. Remulak on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    You can add Matt Cassell to the list of back up QB’s we could bring in, he’s done in KC.

  13. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    I think a Harvin trade scenario turns into a 3 horse race now ???…

    49ers,Jags and Dolphins…
    With an outside shot of the Rams coming in late ???…

  14. By Northern Norseman on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    @WRHopkins2013

    How did Darius Slay catch your eye at the combine?

    Please tell me why because I really think you do not have a clue what you are talking about.

    Sure he ran the fastest ‘official’ 40 time but he didn’t place top 15 in any of the other drills/tests except the one ’3 cone drill” where he took 14th!

    He also did decent during field workouts. Nothing that was out of this world but was decent.

    So basically you are getting all hyped up over the 40 times. Clearly you cannot see the forest through the trees.

    I cannot stand when people skim through 40 times, see 5 seconds of a player, and go “WOW, that guy really caught my eye today…. hope my team gets him!”

    So unless your simply physically attracted to him than I’d like to understand why Darius Slay caught your eye at the combine.

  15. By BlueBird7 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    That should get his attention, Northern.

  16. By BlueBird7 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Harvin isn’t going anywhere, unless by his choice.

  17. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    NN…

    Thanks for the info…I didn’t even know he ran the fastest 40 times ???…

    I was watching him in the “un-timed” drills…He had very good body control and hand eye coordination for catching the ball…imo…Most DB drills are
    un-timed except for the 40…So I am not sure where you are getting all these rankings from ???…Because most are based solely on opinion…

    I didn’t skim through anything…I watched the drills and almost the entire combine…At least when I wasn’t walking through the trees and forests ???…

    Maybe you didn’t care for his skills…I really don’t care…
    I thought Slay did a good job…

  18. By dakotakid59 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Hope The Vikinge 1st pick at 23rd is the Best athlete out there at the time.If that happens 2 be a WR better yet. I also think we should pick 2-3 WRs and then cull them out, putting the ones that are less effective on our practice squad. Also if we could draft anouther Saftey with the same skill set as Harrison Smith, WOW we would have quite the Shut down D we need for the next Decade. ” Just a thought”
    ” GO VIKINGS GO “

  19. By Carl K on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    49ers have pick #31, 2-2nd round picks and 3-3rd round picks to go after Harvin.
    Harvin would really add a dangerous eliment to the Kaepernick pistol attack.
    Can you imagine Harvin lining up behind Kaep with the option to hand him the ball, pitch him the ball or dump it off to him.

    Let’s hope Spielman holds out for a king’s ransom!

  20. By PurplHaze on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    It would really seem the 9ers have the “trade material” to go after Harvin. So it would seem it really hinges on (1.) what does JH think of Percy and (2.) will JH come calling?

    If the 9ers would be willing to give up two picks this year, one of which is a 2nd, I think Rick would listen.

  21. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Haze & Carl K…

    I think the Smith trade will have the 49ers trading for a veteran player…

    But will that big name player be a possible Revis or Harvin ???…

  22. By Northern Norseman on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    @WRHopkins2013

    Okay I see what you’re saying.

    My apologies also for getting on your case like that.

    Had a rough and annoying day so far and started venting without realizing it.

    So I meant my point but it was the aggressive nagging that didn’t need to be added to my post.

  23. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    By Northern Norseman on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    @WRHopkins2013

    Okay I see what you’re saying.

    My apologies also for getting on your case like that.

    Had a rough and annoying day so far and started venting without realizing it.

    So I meant my point but it was the aggressive nagging that didn’t need to be added to my post.

    ——————

    No problem… :-)

    Anybody can have a bad start to a day…

  24. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Is Gore coming back to the 49ers ???…

    The only other RB’s they had on the team last season were rookies…

    Would the 49ers be interested in a 2 player trade for draft picks ???

    Harvin and Gerhart ???…

  25. By Parkway on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Here’s a good quote I heard today.

    “If any GM wastes a first round pick on Teo, they should be fired”

  26. By PurplHaze on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    By Parkway on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply
    Here’s a good quote I heard today.
    “If any GM wastes a first round pick on Teo, they should be fired”
    **********
    couldn’t have said it better myself!

  27. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Just saw where “Walterfootball” has Slay ranked the 40th pick in the second in his mock draft….

    Walter is a decent mock draft site…But he gets his picks a lot better as the draft gets closer…

    http://walterfootball.com/draft2013_2.php

  28. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    By Parkway on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Here’s a good quote I heard today.

    “If any GM wastes a first round pick on Teo, they should be fired”

    ——————————–

    I totally agree….Not only is Te’o slow…Why bring all the negative media hype along with this bozo ???…

    The only way the media hype goes away…Is if he is drafted in later rounds…So he isn’t such a risk…Its better for the team drafting him…And Te’o…
    When it really comes down to it…

  29. By john61 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    we need to draft all d this year,and pickup 2 wideouts,and 1 guard

  30. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/blog/rob-rang/21779971/nfl-draft-niners-reportedly-deal-smith-to-kc

  31. By Parkway on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    I don’t think Bowe is going anywhere if they are willing to pay him. New QB, will have some good new talent around him with such high picks and a new coach.

    Not that I really thought there was any chance we would go after him.

  32. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1545133-2013-nfl-mock-draft-post-combine-predictions-for-all-7-rounds

  33. By Parkway on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Yeah I looked at that draft earlier, and it’s one of the worst ones I’ve seen for us. I don’t know why people have us picking Austin.

    Makes 0 sense with Harvin. Without Harvin, I’d still take Wright and get a big WR in the draft.

  34. By Champ Henson on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Austin?—that’s all we need a 5’7″ 174lb receiver.

  35. By Parkway on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Yeah 160lbs dripping wet

  36. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Revis for Harvin is the only trade I would consider for the SECOND best player on our team.

  37. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Austin would be a terrible pick. I also do not want to see us draft Teo in the first but I would not be surprised if it happens

  38. By Parkway on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Revis would be somewhat decent, but it will never happen. The reason the Jets want to trade Revis is because they need to get under the cap and Revis is going to want a big new contract.

    So the Jets are not going to take on a player who wants a big contract.

    The Vikes would rather give one of their own players a bunch of money than to sign a FA for big money, Spielman has said this over and over.

  39. By northwoodsv2 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    If that’s the case Parkway, Harvin has to stay.

    There’s no way to go forward without a definite and dramatic improvement in the WR corps.

    Harvin either HAS to stay and we hope for a successful draft, or we trade for an established FA.

  40. By Carl K on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Jacksonville just released QB John Parker Wilson!

    On Dec 2, 2011 the Minnesota Vikings tried to sign QB John Parker Wilson off of the Falcons practise squad… Atlanta moved him up to the 53 man roster to stop the deal.

    I think Musgrave likes John Parker Wilson. He worked with him in Atlanta.

    Will the Vikings try to sign Wilson to compete with Webb?????

    In 4 preseasons, Wilson has completed 87 of 151 attempts (58%) 1 td and 4 ints.

  41. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Revis wants 16 million a year…And is coming back from a major knee injury ???…Whines for new contract extensions early…And will be 28 in July…

    Harvin will be 24 in May…Wants around 12 million a year…Whines a lot…And is coming off of a sore attitude or ankle problem ???…

    Which one would you take if you were the 49ers GM ???…..

  42. By vikings rule on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Carl K, i told you Smith was going to Kansas City!!!!!

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/san-francisco-49ers-trade-alex-smith-kansas-city-chiefs-022713

    i know everything, you..not!!!

  43. By PurplHaze on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Why in the HE11 would we draft Austin when Hopkins is still on the board? That makes NO sense to me!

    We draft Percy in the second round, then turn around and draft Austin in the first? BS!!!!!

  44. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Percy was a first round pick…

  45. By vikings rule on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    purpHaze thinks Percy was a 2nd round pick, LOLLLLLLLL

  46. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    But agree…Hopkins or even Allen is a better fit for the Vikings in the first round…

    But Austin will be a very special player…imo…We could do worse…

  47. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Austin has the speed and moves to make up for his lack of height…

    I normally would never say that about a WR…But Austin is that special…
    In that I have no doubts…

  48. By Frederick Jones on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    @Carl K,

    John Parker Wilson? What’s with all these guys and their middle names?

    Jones thinks it’s a sham!!

  49. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    I should say a short WR of Austin’s size…Being able to play on the outside…And not just the slot…

    Austin has the straight line speed to blow past people…

  50. By Frederick Jones on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    @Hopkins,

    It won’t do much good to trade Harvin for Alex Smith. It would be like obtaining a race care driver, and then shooting a crew member!

  51. By PurplHaze on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    By vikings rule on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply
    purpHaze thinks Percy was a 2nd round pick, LOLLLLLLLL
    **********
    Yeah, I made a mistake…

    Now go back to d1cking your sister, you inbreed! ;-) … And have a nice day!

  52. By Frederick Jones on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Currently the Vikings are trying to pull Ponder with a wagon with Sh@tland Ponies!!!

  53. By Frederick Jones on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    @WRHopkins,

    Jones and Eddie think that there were often receivers open on that thar footb@ll field last a-season.

    Ponder was afraid to look at them. He was running for his life, and who can blame him?

    It’s possible that Spielman and Studwell don’t see it that way, and you will get your wide receiver in the first round.

  54. By Frederick Jones on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    @PurpleHaze,

    Eddie and CrazyJonesBoy, think that what ever we don’t draft this year, we can always get next year.

    Say we wait until the 4th round to draft a Guard. No problem, we’ll get him next year when it becomes all the more obvious.

    We’ll be between 8-8 and 10-6 this year, no matter what we do in the draft.

    We need some impact players to win the Super Bowl. That means FREE AGENCY, and Crazy don’t not never ever see that happening.

  55. By Parkway on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    So the draft doesn’t matter Fred?

  56. By Parkway on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Spielman will have another genius draft. The only true question mark about this team is Ponder.

  57. By vikings rule on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Purplhaze, just goes to show how much you really know about the Vikings, now go wipe that sp erm off your face, bu tt banger

  58. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    49ers draft picks…..

    If KC’s 2 to SF accurate, here are the Niners’ picks: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5, 6, 6, 7, 7. Also projected to get 4, 7, 7 comp picks. Unreal.

  59. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    http://thevikingage.com/2013/02/27/after-alex-smith-trade-49ers-now-have-extra-picks-to-deal-for-percy-harvin/

  60. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    http://thevikingage.com/2013/02/27/vikings-combine-review-five-players-who-got-more-interesting/

  61. By Parkway on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Can Ponder get through more than 1 read this year?

  62. By Champ Henson on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Parkway…..this year will likely be Ponders last harrah if he continues to flail along with his up and down performances. I’m not so sure he will get any better with his reads, but thats just my opinion. (Now Titus can call me a naysayer).

  63. By vikings rule on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    why do we have to put up with Ponder for 3 long years, just because Spielman is trying to save face? Ponder is wasting time, AD will be out of his prime by the time this failed experiment is over!!!!!

  64. By Champ Henson on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Vikings rule…..this will be Ponders last year to get it going, we just need to be patient a little while longer. He won’t be able to hand the ball off forever, sooner or later he has to light it up with passing or he’ll prove to us that he is a bust.

  65. By Northern Norseman on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Do not make me pound the table for this kid! He’d be the perfect under study for Antoine Winfield (similar size/style). He’s a gamer….. Bring the Honey Badger to Minnesota!

  66. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Ponder is Frazier’s boy not Spielman’s.

  67. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    So the chess match begins…As I thought…Jets make the first public move…With a player they plan to move a contract on…

    Do us proud Spielman !!!…Get us some great picks for Harvin…

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1546893-san-francisco-49ers-reportedly-interested-in-trading-for-darrelle-revis

  68. By Vikings4life on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    GrandDaddy-

    You could not be more wrong my friend. IF ponder was Leslie’s boy he would have been pulled last year but Frazier had direct orders Spielman to never pull ponder. Thats why Rosenfels was cut, because Speilman controls last say on the 53 man roster so he cut him to never create a Qb controversy. Everyone has to remember that Ponder was Spielmans FIRST draft pick ever, do not overlook that and the fact that it was a QB. Spielmans future and Ponders future will forever be linked.

  69. By Champ Henson on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    The question is…..what exactly did Spielman or Frazier see in Ponder that was so special? I think Speilman paniced at the time being that it was his first draft.

  70. By Vikings4life on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Tyrann Mathieu cannot become a Viking. It would be a monumental mistake Josh Robinson is 5-9 along with Winfield to have three corners under 5-10 in this division with Brandon Marshall, and Calvin Johnson twice a year, it would be a Disaster. There is a reason that the Vikings put Chris Cook on Johnson instead of Winfield. When Mathieu said he could cover Calvin Johnson he sure didn’t understand that calvin is 6’5 and he is 5’7 and he sure as he ll didnt mean he could do it twice a year.

  71. By Champ Henson on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    I never have understood the logic of drafting 5-8 cb’s when outside receivers are always 6’2″ or better.

  72. By Vikings4life on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Champ

    I could not agree more, it was a first for everyone and it was the first time that the Vikings drafted for need instead of best player available, Caepernick and Dalton were taken in the second round that year, the vikings could of had Nick Fairley, Mike Pouncy, or Phil Taylor who is considered a top 3 DT and one of those two QB’s. That decision changed the Vikings history, it prohibited them from making a move for RG3 last year or could of gotten Russel Wilson in the third round.

  73. By Champ Henson on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Tyrann Mathieu is running his mouth saying how good he is and he has’nt even made an nfl roster yet?

  74. By Champ Henson on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Vikings for life….your commments are so true. The way you put the facts out there makes me realize how horrible that move actually was.

  75. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Vikings4life and Champ the 2011 draft was not Spielman’s first draft. Last season, the 2012 NFL draft was Spielman’s first draft as a GM.

    Frazier’s first pick as a head coach was Ponder Spielman’s first pick as a GM was Kalil. Tell me again how Ponder is not Frazier’s boy?

  76. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    It is not always about height. Revis is 5’11 and was able to shut down a 6’3 Andre Johnson, a 6’4 Randy Moss, and a 6’5 Brandon Marshall.

  77. By vikings rule on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Spielmans draft pick for Ponder cost the Vikings about 5 years.

  78. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Rick Spielman was NOT the general manaer when we drafted Ponder.

  79. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    manager*

  80. By Champ Henson on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    GDP – thanks for pointing that out, that makes it even more puzzling as to what they all seen in Ponder.

  81. By vikings rule on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    so Frazier cost the Vikings 5 years, doesn’t matter, still 5 wasted years no matter how you look at it

  82. By Champ Henson on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    GDP—5-11 is a big difference from 5-7 or 5-8 for a cb.

  83. By vikings rule on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    San Francisco will win the superbowl next year with all their draft picks and Revis coming over to San Fran not to mention a top 5 qb

  84. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Its simple. Frazier’s first pick as the HC was Ponder. Frazier is a defensive coach. The last person I would trust to decide who will be our franchise QB is a defensive minded coach. I blame Frazier for picking Ponder just as I blame Frazier for not benching Ponder this year. He did not bench him because he did not want his first pick as a head coach to be a bust.

  85. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Vikings rule yes but I just wanted to make it clear who was responsible for that pick.

  86. By Champ Henson on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    vikngs rule – 5 years is a bout right, 3 years for Ponder and 2 years for the next guy that takes over.

  87. By Tomcat on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    There are 5-6 better CB`s in the draft than Mathieu.

  88. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Spielman wanted Ponder…Frazier bucked Spielman by bringing in veteran McNabb…

    Frazier always wants veteran players…Spielman always wants to draft players…

    Decisions on Berrian and McKinney sunk Frazier from being part of the triangle of authority…

    Most likely the reason Frazier did not get his contract extension this year…If Ziggy pays him…Does Frazier start wanting to give orders for veteran players again ???…

    Spielman is in charge now…I think when Frazier finally gets the message…Frazier might get his contract extension …

  89. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Champ there is no statistic for heart. If we do take him its not like we are going to use a high draft pick to get him. Low risk high reward.

  90. By Vikings4life on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Granddaddy

    Do you know what Rick Speilman’s job has been ever since being hired by the vikings. He used to be Vice president of Player personnel. It has everything to do with scouting and preparing for the draft. It is basically the same job he has now something that he himself has alluded to, the only difference now is that he has the final say, he has not changed how he works or does work or goes about his work. It is known that Him and Childress did not always see eye to eye and led to interesting draft day war rooms to say the least. It is why the day that Leslie Frazier was hired to a full time basis that they also noted that the power of final say would not be given to the Leslie as it had been given to Brad Childress. Instead Frazier and Speilman had equal say in Personnel and were to work hand in hand. A power that was again changed this last year and given only to Rick Speilman. But ask anyone who covers the vikings, the 2011 draft was Rick Speilman, Leslie Frazier was never hired because of his scouting abilities, instead it was his leadership abilities and way to develop players specifically the defense. Rick Speilman is Ponders biggest fan because what you may or may not know is that Speilman had been a GM before, in 2004 for the Dolphins when they went 4-12 and he was Fired the next year after just one year. So this second time around could be Rick’s last if Ponder does not pan out as he expected he would.

  91. By Champ Henson on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    GDP – you are right. My biggest Ponder frustration was that Frazier refused to bench the guy when all the rest of the world knew that he should have been benched.

  92. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Frazier had the last say when they drafted Ponder. I remember watching the interviews of Spielman last year before the draft he was asked the difference between being the GM and being the VP of player personnel. Spielman said as the GM he now has the last say on everything roster related.

  93. By vikings rule on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    yeah, Rick could be gone next year

  94. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Including who they will draft.

  95. By vikings rule on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    why did Spielman say “we got our man” after they picked ponder?

  96. By Champ Henson on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    it doesn’t matter who it was that picked Ponder….what matters is, is what anybody saw that was supposed to be so special about the guy.

  97. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    They were more worried about his IQ test than his football abilities.

  98. By vikings rule on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Ponders scouting report said that Ponder was not good enough to be a starting qb and the weak arm was also noted in scouting report as well as injury prone. didn’t anybody read the scouting report?

  99. By Vikings4life on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Leslie Frazier has never had Final say, it is something that was talked about because Childress had demanded final say. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5985172 there ya go heres a link to in which they discuss how Childress demanded final say and how that would change with Leslie Hiring as him and speilman would share responsibility. Gotta love that internet.

  100. By john61 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    guys thats why we need to draft all d this year,we are going outside for 2 years were going to need a great d,ponder sucks inside wait till we go outside,d wins still in this game,yea we need help on o side but why waste it on this guy,

  101. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    No Vikings fan read the scouting report because none of us thought we would pick him.

  102. By Vikings4life on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    There is a reason Frazier wanted Donavan McNabb after the draft becasue he was not sold on Ponder. This was the move that Lost Frazier Personnel decisions as it was him who pushed for McNabb and that did not work. But Had the vikings never drafted ponder there is no way that McNabb goes worse than 3-13 and if he does the vikings would not have a QB and would of made a move for RG3 as they would of had the most to give the rams by only moving back 1 spot.

  103. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Flacco is going for a 100 million dollar contract right now…And had Jimmy Smith and Aquan Boldin to throw too for outside receivers….

    Ponder had nothing but a Broken down Simpson,Harvin sitting on the sidelines most of the year, and Jenkins…

    Where are the numbers that stand out so much better on Flacco’s stats ???…

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/quarterbackRating/year/2012/seasontype/2

  104. By Champ Henson on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    john61 – good points….Ponder playing outdoors will be interesting if he is still the qb.

  105. By john61 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    thats all behind us ,we have ponder and now we need to deal with it, and hope for help

  106. By vikings rule on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    we are back in T-Jack days, worse qb in the nfl, waiting for someone to replace him

  107. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Vikings4life that just raises questions for me. I see what your saying and I’m pretty much saying the same thing but I cant help but think, If they didnt want the HC to have the final say then why didnt they make Spielman GM in 2011? Or if thats what they wanted both Leslie and Rick to have an equal say, then why even make him the GM? Is it a coincidence that Spielman was promoted to GM the year after we drafted Ponder which also happened to be Frazier’s first year as our HC? If Ponder was not Frazier’s boy why didnt he bench him? Does our GM also have the last say on who will play/start?

    Thats how I’m looking at this.

  108. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    I not only picked Ponder that year…
    I picked Rudolf in the second round also…

  109. By vikings rule on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Flacco is the superbowl MVP, enough said

  110. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Hop please tell me your joking.

  111. By vikings rule on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Hopkins picked a bust too, lol!

  112. By vikings rule on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Hopkins picked ponder, LOLLLLLLL

  113. By Champ Henson on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    T-jack was Childress’s boy wonder, wasted years on him too.

  114. By Vikings4life on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    No i agree with you all, Ponder is the Qb for now and he is capable of winning big games he showed that down the stretch. I only get upset when people dont do their research and blame Frazier, when he has very little to do with personnel. But as fans we have to support anyone and everyone who wears the purple and I do think ponder can produce enough to win games. Just as I do think Speilman can draft good players I.E. Percy, Adrian, Sullivan, Robinson, Greenway, cook, kalil, Loadholt. The vikings are a playoff team and that is due in large part to Rick Speilman.

  115. By Parkway on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    We’ll draft eifert to have the twin ND towers

  116. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Because Frazier wanted to keep Webb over Sage…

    Frazier wanted to keep his buddy Webb around…So Frazier let him have that decision…

    Frazier knew Webb was bad…That is why he never let him play…He didn’t want to look foolish again…And the reason MBT never played…Is because the only reason Sage was released…Is so Spielman could keep the talented young MBT…As long as Frazier was able to keep Webb…His buddy…

    That meant Sage left…To keep the peace…Most likely ???…

  117. By Champ Henson on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    If I had picked Ponder I would be embarrassed to admit it!!!!

  118. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    My point, I do not trust Frazier (a defensive coach) and Musgrave (a QB coach who is best known for holding Matt Ryan back) with a QB like Ponder.

    I trust Spielman to provide the players to compete and even win a superbowl.

    I do believe we are a couple players away from that(not including QB). Ponder can be that guy, but I do not believe he will be as long as we have those two coaches. Thats my opinion.

  119. By john61 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    if you guys are right,and we pick o help in this draft,then well be able to pick a good qb 2014,thats why fraizer only got a 1 year contract

  120. By vikings rule on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    i think the Vikings will draft a QB to replace Webb, but he will end up replacing Ponder also, after all Ponder is a 2nd sting qb, and won’t take much of a qb to replace him

  121. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    When Ponder gets his WR help this season…You all will be eating crow…

    Vikings are only in the second year of rebuilding with this draft class…And it will be Ponders final year of evaluation…

    Ponder will earn that big extension this fall…

  122. By vikings rule on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    says the man that picked Ponder, LOLLLLLLL

  123. By john61 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    hopkins the only way ponder get a extension is if all qb get hurt,hes alright mybe a backup at best

  124. By vikings rule on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    lets see, 150 bubble screens will get Ponders 300 yard passing game, if we extend the game to 180 minutes

  125. By Champ Henson on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    GDP – you have me thinking. Maybe Mustgraves half page play book was too limited in allowing any progress to develop for Ponder. Sometimes (like in the case with t-jack) the coaching gets so paranoid about the qb making mistakes they would rather go 3 and out rather than chancing turning the ball over.

  126. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Ponder will be with the Vikings for at least 10 years…And win us at least one Superbowl…

    So get used to the idea folks…Because before Ponder is done…He will end up being one of the best QB’s to wear the purple and gold…No problem…

  127. By john61 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    i like frazier,but the oc is going to be the end of him,i cant belive we didnt get a new oc

  128. By Champ Henson on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    WRHopkins – you are smokin some bad stuff!!!! LOL

  129. By vikings rule on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    yep, Ponder is ranked the 48th best qb, and will win a superbowl, LOL

  130. By vikings rule on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    ranked number 48 puts him close to 3rd string

  131. By vikings rule on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Hopkins picked a 3rd string qb with our #12 overall draft pick, LOLLLLLLLLLLL

  132. By Parkway on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Yeah keeping Musgrave around was a big shock.

  133. By john61 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    ap will ask for a trade next,if we still have ponder in2014

  134. By Champ Henson on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    ranked 48, with two years experience. What a mover and shaker!

  135. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Champ- its frustrating seeing coaches getting the most out of thier QB. like what Harbaugh did with Alex Smith, then you look at how our coaches seem scared to even throw the ball. That says more about our coaching then it does how “bad” our QB is. We have yet to see Ponder play to the best of his ability and that to me says two things:

    1 Ponder is better than we think he is.
    2. Our coaching is not as good as we think it is. Not talking about our defensive coaching ofcourse.

    Ponder can be the guy, but not with our current coaches. My opinion.

  136. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Ponder will “hands down” have a better season than Flacco next season !!!

    The next 100 million dollar man….

  137. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Hop the Vikings have never had a true franchise QB, so it cant be that hard to be one of the best QBs to wear the Purple and Gold.

  138. By vikings rule on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Poner will be playing CFL football up North for 3,000 per game 2 years from now

  139. By john61 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    the only why ponder gets a new contract is if he learns to be a holder

  140. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    GDP…

    Well don’t tell those guys that !!!….hahahaha…

    They are foolish enough to think Ponders is the franchise QB already ????… ;-)

  141. By john61 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    way

  142. By vikings rule on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Ponder would find a way to sc rew up the holding the ball for the kicker also

  143. By Tomcat on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Tyler Bray out of Tennesee may be one of our 4th rounders.

  144. By Parkway on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Doubt Bray makes it past the 2nd round

  145. By Parkway on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Pelissero_Tom_Bradys_new_deal_gives_clue_on_possible_Jared_Allen_fix022713

  146. By Jeremy on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    If Chris Cook stays healthy he can cover any top receiver in this league….with that said it would be a monumental mistake if we dont draft the Honey Badger…if he would have never gotten in trouble he would be a top 10 pick and you haters would be all on his n.u.t.s.

    there is no reason why we can’t draft two Cbs

  147. By john61 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    1st dt,2nd ss,3rd corner,two 4 linebackers, then qb, punter,best player

  148. By Carl K on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    I would select Tyler Wilson late 2nd round or
    Tyler Bray in round 3.
    Landry Jones in round 4.

    If McLoed Bethel Thomson was ready to compete with Webb, the Vikings would not be looking for a backup QB.

    I don’t think Frazier is completely sold on any of the Vikings QBs.

    I can see the Vikings signing John Parker Willson as a cheap #3 option (he knows the Musgrave system) to compete with MBT.

    Tyler Wilson, Tyler Bray or Landry Jones would be a good backup plan to develop behind Ponder.

  149. By john61 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    pickup Matt C. would give ponder a runfor his job,and be a good backup

  150. By Parkway on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    We do not need a DT as badly as LB or CB or WR

  151. By VikeNasty on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    Agreed Parkway. Except I would put the list as WR, CB, LB in that order as far as the draft goes because the LB in this class aren’t all that great so I could go for a DT and LB next year.

  152. By Stew on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    I think Tavon Austin will be rookie of the year! If you did draft him because he is the BPA on the board I wouldn’t be mad because he is a very special talent!

    Him and Harvin on the field together is scary!

  153. By Northern Norseman on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    @Carl K

    Im not sure HOW MANY TIMES we have had this conversation about QBs.

    I understand it’s just your opinion but this is my opinion on your ranting of QBs.

    You explain how for now you are content with Ponder and the chance for him to be a future QB.

    Yet still here you are explaining how the Vikings should draft a QB IN THE 2ND ROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE 2ND ROUND!!!!!! WRAP YOUR MIND AROUND THAT!!!! THE 2ND ROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It SHOULDN’T happen and WON’T happen!

    I’ve explained how drafting a QB in the first 3-4 rounds would be such an unbelievably bad decision. You will explain how you agree and such BUT STILL you continue to bang the table for a QB!

    I could give SO MANY REASONS why focusing on other positions makes much more sense than WASTING a draft selection on a high drafted QB this draft.

    It’s not about ripping you or others down because I’m not a fan of that (can’t say it never happens though) but the fact is that you DO… NOT… GET… IT… when it comes to the Vikings QB situation.

    If the Vikings draft a QB in the first 4 rounds I’ll be the first to admit I was completely wrong but as it stands now I can confidently say that I’m nearly a 100% sure that the Vikings WILL NOT DRAFT A QB in the top 4 rounds.

    Get off the “Draft a QB” train and move on. I do not think you realize the richness of deep talent in this draft and the severe lack on the QB position specifically.

    See I’m already getting started and am ready to list reasons but I won’t because I’ll type much more than I already have and yet you’ll still be chanting for a QB days later.

    I apologize if I’m out of hand but I personally just don’t get your logic and understanding…. and I know why I don’t…. because it’s moronic.

  154. By Northern Norseman on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    (note: If I had to stretch my brain and go against everything I am thinking………. At the absolute earliest I could absolutely possibly imagine the Vikings drafting a QB would be the 4th round. That because they have 2 4th round selections and only if a QB that is ranked one of the best falls that far. EVEN THEN!!! I just cannot believe that the Vikings would consider taking a QB in the top 4 rounds.)

  155. By VikeNasty on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    I would still rather the Vikes take two CB’s with there two forth rounders because I think there is so much depth at CB in this draft that you could get two quality CB or using one of the 4th rounders to move up in the 2nd round.

    Ideally I would like the vikes to go

    1st- Patterson or Austin
    2nd- Badger
    3rd- Wide out maybe Patton will be available
    2x 4th- CBs

    That would be great to me if they can pick up the guard in FA and get the DT and LB next year.

  156. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    When you have the quarterbacks with promise, Ponder and MBT, on the roster, with Webb ready to light it up McNabb style, why even consider drafting a QB? It is beyond me.

  157. By VikeNasty on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    And for the Ponder conversation the Vikes went 10-6 with him starting which is good enough for me. Lets get on board with the team because it is improving greatly.

  158. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 27, 2013 | Reply

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1547264-vikings-draft-observations-from-the-2013-nfl-scouting-combine

  159. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Well, that is enough for me. See, Bleacher Report said QB is not a big need for the Vikes. If they said it, we’re good.

  160. By Stew on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Players we met with!

    Minnesota Vikings:
    Oday Aboushi, OL, Virginia (SR)
    Terron Armstead, OL, Arkansas-Pine Bluff (EW)
    Sam Barrington, LB, South Florida (EW)
    Tommy Bohanon, FB, Wake Forest (SR)
    Marcus Davis, WR, Virginia Tech (EW)
    Andre Ellington, RB, Clemson (SR)
    Collin Klein, QB, Kansas State (EW)
    Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech (COM)
    Sean Porter, LB, Texas A&M (SR)
    Ty Powell, LB, Harding (SR)
    Bacarri Rambo, DB, Georgia (SR)
    Robbie Rouse, RB, Fresno State (SR)
    Brian Schwenke, OL, California (SR)
    Stepfan Taylor, RB, Stanford (SR)
    Manti Te’o, ILB, Notre Dame, (COM)
    Desmond Trufant, DB, Washington (SR)
    Blidi Wreh-Wilson, DB, Connecticut (SR)

  161. By Shawn on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    This is what we need … a beast at MLB. The heart and soul of a defense from Mike Singleterry to Ray Lewis to ???

  162. By Parkway on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    But preferably not pseudo je sus loving murderer

  163. By sandiamond on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Minnesota Vikings Mock Draft: 7-Round Predictions, Post-Scouting Combine – Bleacher Report http://ow.ly/2vacUz

  164. By Carl K on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Northern- you can keep all your eggs in the Ponder basket if you want???… I don’t have problem with that.

    The fact is we need to find a backup QB that can go in the the game and play well and WIN if/when Ponder can’t get it done. I am am in favor of drafting best player available… If a QB is best player available in rounds 2-7… I say go for it at that time.

    Seattle drafted Russell Wilson at the right time and it paid off (wasn’t a big need they had Matt Flynn)! Washington also drafted Kirk Cousins when they had RG3.

    I will keep an open mind when it comes to the QB position, and I will be ok with drafting a QB if he is the best player available in any given round.

    Ponder could get hurt in the first game… We need a backup QB! How is that not a need?

    What is moronic is to NOT be prepared for any situation that could come up in the NFL at the most important time. The playoffs! Bottom line is we didn’t have a QB that could step in and get the job done. That is what I is unacceptable and Moronic!

    You can ignore the playoff game against the Packers all you want.Go ahead sweep it under the carpet and call me moronic.

    Frazier has said he will add a QB!!! What is moronic about taking a QB if he is the best player on the board in a given round.

  165. By iaVIKE on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Ha true that Parkway, let’s not draft a LB that has a soap box already attached to the bottom of his feet.

  166. By Carl K on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    We drafted 2 WRs from Arkansas.. The Vikings have seen alot of tape on Tyler Wilson… He might be the type of game manager Musgrave likes.

    Tyler Wilson at the back end of round 2 would be great value! Just because I am open to that Idea doesn’t mean I want it to happen.

    Yes, I would much rather see the Vikings land Tyler Bray or Landry Jones in the late rounds. But are they the type of QB Musgrave, Spielman and Frazier want?

    Part of me thinks, Musgrave, Spielman and Frazier might covet a Tyler Wilson as a long term backup to Ponder.

    Pardon me for saying this, but the Vikings have a history of doing strange things in the 2nd round… I am not ruling anything out.

    Northern… you can rip on me all you want.

  167. By northwoodsv2 on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    “And for the Ponder conversation the Vikes went 10-6 with him starting which is good enough for me.”
    ________________________________________________________

    How many of those 10 games were a primary result of Ponder? How many of those 10 games were a primary result of AP……or Harvin……or the defense?

    Yeah, it’s a team sport, but there’s always a “player of the game.”

    How many of those 6 losses were a direct result of Ponder?

  168. By BlueBird7 on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    I wouldn’t say the direct result of Ponder, How about had a hand in it.

  169. By john61 on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    6

  170. By iaVIKE on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    I think Ponder had a big part in winning out the last 4 games to get into the playoffs. Without his 250 yards 3 TDs and 0 INTs in the second green bay game we wouldn’t have won… that’s a fact. And he did it with reject recievers. Give the dude a break.

  171. By BlueBird7 on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    OK, and maybe he might show us this time around?

  172. By Wraith4912 on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Chris Johnson says he’ll outgain AD in 2013. Wonder what he’s been smokin?

  173. By northwoodsv2 on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    I liked what I saw in him over the last 4 games.

    Personally, I think the first GB loss was entirely on him with the 2 interceptions – Peterson was running GB into the dirt, but Ponder caused a 20-point swing in GB’s favor.

    Also, J.Rob and Smith were responsible for the win against the Bears – Smith returned an INT for a TD, and J.Rob returned one to the 5, setting up AP’s TD run. The 2 INT returns were for more yardage than Ponder threw for the whole game. AP had more rushing yardage in the first quarter than Ponder had all game.

  174. By Shawn on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    The Vikes went 10-6 with TJack ….

  175. By VikeNasty on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    I understand where you are coming from but I meant that as a second year QB who had shown some promise and helped the team improve from the previous year.

    That being said I did see some poor throws in the first four games that we won that were dropped INT’s by the opposing defense. I would like to see more improvement throughout next year before being completely sold. I am just saying he is good enough to not be hated like most people here have been doing.

    I also like Carl K’s comments about drafting another QB in case Ponder goes down. Even though I never thought Webb should be our starter like some people have, I do like him and think he is an important part of the team chemistry. He is like J. Sanford (I love me some Sanford) always pumping other players up.

  176. By northwoodsv2 on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    It’s nice to set goals, but let’s be realistic, Chris. Here’s what you’re up against:

    Over the first 6 games AP had yet to hit his stride, but he ran up 499 yards, averaging 83/game. Johnson had 301, avg 50/game.

    Over the remaining 10 games AP tallied 1598, averaging 160/game. Johnson improved as well, gaining 942, for an average of 94/game.

    In order for Johnson to gain more yards than AP next year, he’ll have to start off at a pace HIGHER than he ended with.

    In the words of GW “Noooooooot gonna happen.”

  177. By Shawn on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

  178. By Shawn on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

  179. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Congrats Carl K !!!!…You are the WINNER !!!…

    I said a LONG time ago…The Vikings should have one QB prospect they might even consider in the first round this spring ???..Being for some reasons I would mention later in the draft process…But was also wondering if anyone on here would make the similar connection also ???…

    From Carl K…

    “We drafted 2 WRs from Arkansas.. The Vikings have seen alot of tape on Tyler Wilson… He might be the type of game manager Musgrave likes.

    Tyler Wilson at the back end of round 2 would be great value! Just because I am open to that Idea doesn’t mean I want it to happen”

    Carl K…Is doing his research !!!…Nice work !!!!….

  180. By Daniel on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    CB Trufant & S Kenny Vaccaro

  181. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Carl K….

    Jerry Jones went to Arkansaw…And heard early he has his eye Wilson to back up Romo…Or be his replacement…

    I would not doubt if crazy Jerry might not try and grab Wilson in the first round ???…Spielman would be smart to spark conversation about Wilson..If Spielman isn’t interested…Could get Jerry to pull the trigger early on Wilson…

  182. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    I would not doubt Trufant is on the Vikings radar in round one…

  183. By vikes- or - die on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Hopefully we draft draft Collin Klien of K-State in the later rounds. We need more Back up QB competition.

  184. By Jeremy on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    There might be one quarterback out of this years draft that is even on a team 5 years from now….his name is Geno Smith and he will be holding a clipboard….

    Draft Te’o, the Honey Badger and anyone else that the majority of people on this site don’t want because chances are they are future HOFs with these guys’ “expert” opinions…………

  185. By Tomcat on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    WRHoppy- Trufant would be my favorite pick for the 1st. We can get other positions in the 2nd.

  186. By Nicholas on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Phillip Thomas in the Second Round!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  187. By vikes- or - die on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    I like the Honey Badger. His skill set sticks out like a sore thumb. But his off the feild madness makes you wonder how committed he his football.

  188. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Jets go public about false Revis interests from 49ers…

    The 49ers say no interest at this time…The counter move… :-)

    The game has only begun…The 49ers will want a “young & healthy” Harvin…Not a older CB with a bad knee in Revis…

    You can bet Harbough is just “drooling” thinking about what Harvin could do from his pistol offense…With Kaepernick running option plays…Oh my !!!…

    Get those 2 second rounders the Niners got from KC for Smith…
    A second rounder this year…And another 2nd next year…
    That deal would work for Harvin,…

    Go get em Spielman !!!…

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/28/report-49ers-not-inclined-to-pursue-revis-at-this-time/

  189. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    By Tomcat on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    WRHoppy- Trufant would be my favorite pick for the 1st. We can get other positions in the 2nd.

    ———————-

    You have good taste in players Tomcat… ;-)

  190. By Tomcat on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    What are the 40whiners ever gonna do with all those picks? They have 2 2nd`s and 3 3rd`s. 15 in all.

  191. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Heck…If the 49ers wanted to give us a 2nd,3rd, and 4th this draft for Harvin ???
    That would be good enough for this guy also…

  192. By Parkway on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Win championships?

  193. By Dr. Remulak on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Revis has a “no franchise tag” clause in his contract. No NFL team is gonna go for that, let alone give up picks.

    The Jets can’t afford him and everyone knows it. They’ll wind up just cutting him like Indy did with Manning. Why would they pay him millions when they can draft Milliner or Rhodes with the 9th overall pick?

  194. By Shawn on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Revis is more selfish than Harvin … We dont need selfish players. One guy cant win a Champinship. Revis wants to be paid like 2 ProBowlers … he’s only one guy.

    I would rather have Chris Cook … <<<< Spencer look :)

    Chris Cook is a better Minnesota Viking than Derelle Revis

  195. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    By Shawn on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Revis is more selfish than Harvin … We dont need selfish players. One guy cant win a Champinship. Revis wants to be paid like 2 ProBowlers … he’s only one guy.

    I would rather have Chris Cook … <<<< Spencer look :-)

    Chris Cook is a better Minnesota Viking than Derelle Revis

    ———————

    I agree…<<<<<<< See Spencer…We don't hate Cook… :-)

  196. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    I’m not sure though,,,If the Vikings end up drafting Trufant…
    Spencer might have a new hero in a Vikings uniform ???…

    Trufant has the right kind of swagger around him…

  197. By Dr. Remulak on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    The Jets biggest mistake, other than the no franchise tag clause, was to let everyone know they are trying to unload him.

    Look at how the 49ers played the Alex Smith situation. Harbaugh and some of the players saying they want Smith to stay on the team. The organization saying they have no plans to trade Smith. It builds up his value if his own team wants him, even if it is all BS.

    And that’s how Spielman and the Vikes are playing this Harvin thing, the smart way.

    There are a lot of interesting WR prospects in this draft, but not one of them is even close to Percy. Don’t be fooled, Harvin has a ton of value.

  198. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Dr. Remulak ….

    You made some very good points above…
    Add the fact he is coming off a major injury…And thinks he doesn’t even have to prove he is healthy enough to play this season…
    Revis just wants 16 million a year in extension money anyway ???…

  199. By Tomcat on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    Trufant would give us one of the best secondaries in the NFL. In our division… Also this year, we face teams outside our division that spread it out with 4-5 WR`s Then, when you figure Winny may be in his last season, Trufant would be a smart pick. There are lots of other ways to go that would make sense too, but Iwould be more than happy with Trufant.

  200. By Tomcat on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    It would also make sense to take a DT or LB #1. That being said, everyone knows our WR situation. The thing is, we could get every other position besides an elite CB later in the draft.

  201. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    CBTrufant2013 aka Tomcat…

    Looks like someone has his man he wants to go number one in the draft for the Vikings…You should change your name until the draft is over… ;-)

  202. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    new blog up…

  203. By Dr. Remulak on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    I understand the thinking behind taking a CB early. There was a game last year, I can’t remember which one, when Cook was still on IR and Winfield hurt his wrist and had to come out. Sherels came in and it was brutal, just painful to watch.

    But I think the DT situation might be as bad, if not worse. For me it’s not even about K. Williams getting older. It’s about what if he gets injured and is out for the rest of the season? The two guys who are now in the middle of our defensive line are Letroy Guion and Fred Evans? Really? The words “Absolute Train Wreck” come to mind.

    I think they have to go WR, DT and CB in the first 3 rounds.

  204. By robert knows pondersucks07 on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    once again i am here to school you on ponder.both leslie and spielman were at the senior bowl(you know the one for players on the bubble for not getting drafted or trying to improve there stock in the draft)personally i think ponders intelligence what sold spielman and leslie to draft him.when there was a run on qb early in the draft they panic and selected ponder,there is no reason for this pick, ponder was not a very good qb at fla st. his stats shows he was a below average qb .i cannot believe the coaches didnt look at game film on this weak armed qb not just his highlights and for all you ponder fans he will be no more than a manager of a game,besides who whats a qb that quits when things go wrong.he cant bring you back from two scores down late in a game.ponder should be putting up mvp numbers if you have ad to play action to.why do you think percy was yelling about on the sidelines about,simpson was streaking down the sidelines wide open for the second time in the game,but ponder never looks just turns and throws slow and high get percy hurt on the bubble screen which sometimes they send wr streaking .one of the option off the bubble……you can draft sign or whatever ponder still going to suck.all you people drink the purple koolaid.as i stated many moons ago SHOUL HAVE DRAFTED RYAN MALLETT IN THE SECOND ROUND.was i the only viking fan to see this kid was not worthy of the first or second third fouth fifth sixth seventh round pick.i know its the wrs off line rbs not picking up the blitz fault please……old man favre at the end of his playing days when we didnt have wrs had mvp season.qb makes the wrs not the wrs make the qb

  205. By robert knows pondersucks07 on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    thats why we make a run at the superbowl every ten years.comon spielman get us a franchise qb like sir frances of tarkington ,tommy gun kramer,donte loveboat culpepper not for christ sakes nobody open ponder.

  206. By robert knows pondersucks07 on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    sorry for leaving out joe kapp

  207. By robert knows pondersucks07 on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    sign percy dont give a great player away for the second round pick. if its to late to bring him in back in the fold,it will be you purple drinking corporate line followers that gets percy traded.percy a game changer hes done nothing but give it his all and you sorry ass so called viking fans coming up with all these trade scenarios,but love that quitting qb and you know he has quit in games walks off the field headf hanging down good leadership huh but you want get rid of percy shame on all of you.if they trade percy thats why we are what we are.percy worth two no1s and a no two,his only red flag is wanting to bring minnesota vikings a superbowl.like peterson said hes the best at what hes does kr wr rb all in one player. reason why hes injured ask the fool who threw him the high and slow football the same game he let leslie know what he thought of ponder qb skills.

  208. By vikes- or - die on Feb 28, 2013 | Reply

    robert sucks07,
    Ponder will improve and continue to improve. My money says Ponder will have a h3ll of a year next. 2013 will be Ponders break out year. Believe it!!!!!

  209. By iaVIKE on Mar 1, 2013 | Reply

    robert sucks – Shut the heII up.

  210. By robert knows pondersucks07 on Mar 1, 2013 | Reply

    iavike dont quit on me like ponder does

  211. By BitterTrentDilfer on Mar 1, 2013 | Reply

    Vikes have a critical need for DB depth immediately. Consider the division with three quality qb’s. Consider Winfield’s age and likely one year remaining. Cook being injury prone and average frequently. Robinson’s good rookie campaign but did get exposed down the stretch when they had tape on him. Vikes need minimally one of these top 4 DB’s in round 2 or 3 and need to make a hard play for Revis, Tahlib or Sean Smith out of Miami. If they don’t they can forget competing for a SB in the next 3-5 years.

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