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Vikings Aim To Keep RT Loadholt, OL Continuity

Posted by Mike Wobschall on February 11, 2013 – 7:49 am

There’s been much buzz in recent days regarding the Vikings 1st-round draft pick from 2009 – Percy Harvin. While that appears to be a topic that will remain relevant for a time, the Vikings will also face a decision on their 2nd-round pick from the same draft – RT Phil Loadholt.

The 6-8, 343-pound road-grating run blocker and Christian Ponder protector is not under contract for next season and could hit the unrestricted free agent market if he doesn’t agree to a new deal with the Vikings before the launch of the new League year (mid-March). Re-signing Loadholt should be a big priority for the Vikings as they come off a season in which they started the same five offensive linemen for all 16 games, reduced their sacks allowed total from 49 to 32 and tied a team record for rushing yards. Loadholt was a big part – literally and figuratively – of that effort, and he’s a player the Vikings would be fortunate to retain going forward.

Vikings General Manager Rick Spielman, while discussing this topic and many more last week with Voice of the Vikings Radio Network Paul Allen and Friday co-host Paul Charchian, seemed to agree.

“Phil Loadholt is a good football player for us,” Spielman said. “Our offensive line had a lot of wholesale changes up front, getting Matt Kalil, moving Charlie (Johnson) inside to left guard, the emergence of (John) Sullivan, who I think is a Pro Bowl center, the development of Brandon Fusco and Phil Loadholt. Our objective is to hopefully keep all those guys together for the next three, four, five years.

“Continuity is a huge part of it on the offensive line because those guys have to work as one unit and they have to know each other inside and out. They work together on combination blocks, on picking up stunts and twists when they’re in pass pro passing off. I think continuity is a big key to that. We’d love to keep Phil Loadholt, so we’ll try to do everything we can to keep Phil Loadholt but we also have a lot of guys we’d like to keep.”


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288 Responses to “Vikings Aim To Keep RT Loadholt, OL Continuity”

  1. By 1vikingsfan on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Yea keep him!! And now that we are trading Percy harvin lets get tavon Austin in the second round

  2. By Flap jack on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Keep him? That fat, tub of lard still helpedthe vikes get 32 sacks on the qb. just watch that tub of guts do the same thing this year, Superbowl bound vikings? hahaaaaaaaaa.

  3. By Flap jack on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    allowed 32 sacks…..Butterball ponder will get his share.

  4. By 1vikingsfan on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Have you seen how he run blocks for Peterson??? Johnson is the problem. some people here should just shut up and respect the players hard work for a while seriously. And if you don’t just simply get the f.u.c.k. out of here.

  5. By Carl K on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Good Job to OL coach Jeff Davidson. The OL is taking steps forward and showing positive development.

    Special teams is also showing positive development. The secondary also showed improvement.

    The coaching staff is moving this team in the right direction. The Vikings need to find an offensive coach who can develop a passing game.

    PUT SOME COACHES AND WEAPONS AROUND PONDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Give Ponder some help in the passing game!

    Has the QB coach ever played QB???… and his Offensive coordinator never called plays or gamed planned before this job. Give Ponder and Frazier some real help.

    WE NEED MIKE MULARKEY ON STAFF… STEP UP SPIELMAN… spend some money to improve our staff! Musgrave and Mularkey have good chemisty together! He can help game plan, call plays and develop our young franchise QB.

  6. By Carl K on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    OK, Craig Johnson (our QB coach) did play QB at Wyoming… he threw for 1592 yards 13 TD 13 ints and 41% completion percentage durring his 3 year career and had a 97 QB rate.

    I am just answering my own question.

  7. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    :(

  8. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    If Pielman gets played by Belichick I’m going to be sending him some letters in the mail. In the Bill Belichick era I have never seen a trade involving the Pats that has worked out for the other team in the deal.

    A second or third rounder? Sorry Titus you might not like this but are you fu~king kidding me? Sure lets trade a 3rd rounder for Moss way beyond his prime and lets take a 2nd or 3rd for a Harvin whose prime is just beginning.

    Anyone looking to settle for mediocrity, take notes.

  9. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Shawn if we are willing to trade Percy for the stuff hes done you can sure discount D Bowe as a potential free agent signing for us after reading this…
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000137981/article/will-dwayne-bowes-baggage-scare-teams-away

  10. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    We dont want troublemakers

  11. By LuckyJ84 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Loadholt may have had his penalty issues in the past, but many complaining fans on here tend to forget that Peterson’s highest Yards Per Carry (Roughly 16.4 YPC) is accomplished when running to the right side of the Offensive Line.
    ……And who is on the right side?
    Yeah, bring Loadholt back, end the debate, plain and simple.

  12. By AlldayHarvin on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Why in the world!!! Would we ever trade our best WR if not the best slot WR in the NFL.. this is by far the worst move I’ve seen since moss. There’s no wr in the draft that are even close to his talent and all the FA are scrubs.

  13. By MVPercy aka GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    KEEP HARVIN
    #KEEP HARVIN

  14. By Carl K on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    If Spielman or Frazier wanted Harvin back, they would have said so by now. Spielman had every oportunity to end the Harvin trade rumors during his resent interview with KFAN, and he DID NOT.

    All he needed to say is Harvin is a special blue chip game changer that we would love to have long term as a Viking.

    Spielman did NOT say that! He DIDN”T even say he wanted Harvin to finish his final year of his contract.

  15. By vikings rule on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    cut Carlson, me made about 200,000 dollars for every yard he gained. let him wAlk and free up 5 million in cap space

  16. By MVPercy aka GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Carl K- Ive pretty much accepted that Harvin wont be a Viking for long. I just dont want to see him go to the Patriots. ESPECIALLY for a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick

  17. By MVPercy aka GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    I’ll repeat:

    In the Bill Belichick era I have never seen a trade involving the Pats that has worked out for the other team in the deal.

  18. By frankenpurple on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    If Harvin needs to move on, why all this talk about the Pats? What about the Rams? They have a lot of picks and its not likely they will be able to pay and keep everyone in the next few years. Fisher has a history of doing well with malcontents. I know the Vikes are more likely to encounter Harvin often if he goes to the Rams, but they seem to have enough wealth to spread around at the moment.

  19. By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @SPIELMAN and WOBSCHALL,

    It’s never been mentioned but the biggest reason for the Vikings 10-6 record, and playoff spot last year was…..AN ALMOST INJURY FREE SEASON!!!

    GOING FORWARD, you might want to realize that we will NEVER be that fortunate again.

    GUARDS, GUARDS, GUARDS are needed badly. Jones does not care how you get them, but you HAD BETTER if you ever expect to WIN the Super Bowl.

  20. By MVPercy aka GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    My top 5 destinations for Percy Harvin:

    1. Minnesota
    2. Miami
    3. Jacksonville
    4. Buffalo
    5. Cleveland
    .
    .
    .
    32. New England

  21. By Champ Henson on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    If the vikings were down by six points, had the ball on their own 20 yard line with a minute left on the clock and no time outs – what is the likely hood they would score a touch down without Harvin on the field?

  22. By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @Wobschall,

    I appreciate that we finally recognized the work of the offensive line. They did do a good job IN THE RUNNING GAME.

    But we need TALENT on the Line, and we cannot count on having so few injuries. Working together is important for any unit on a football team.

    BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE INJURIES?

    AND YOU WILL!!!

  23. By Parkway on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    “Vikings aim to keep WR Harvin, best slot WR in the league”

  24. By MVPercy aka GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    I dont want to see him on an NFC team where we would have to play him every year or every other year. I would rather see him once ever 4 years.

    @Fred. Thats why I still and have always felt BPA is the way to go. If it doesn’t fill a need then It adds depth. We can say all we want about what position we need, but what we NEED is depth. Injuries WILL happen and the only way to prepare for them is to have depth.

  25. By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @Champ Henson,

    The fact Spielman hasn’t said much about Harvin may be due to contract talks. They don’t want to pay Harvin that much, so they underplay his ability.

  26. By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @Percy aka Granddaddy Purp,

    What is BPA?

  27. By MVPercy aka GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Best Player Available

  28. By Carl K on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Some mock drafts have the Patriots taking Tavon Austin in the late 1st round.
    Austin is like Percy in the way he can play the slot but also play RB. Austin is also an outstanding returner.

    Austin is a great player but he is not as fast or a physical as Percy. I think the Patriots would trade a late first round pick for Percy… that is a no brainer for them.

    Percy would love to play his final year with Brady to put up big stats before he hits the free agent market.

    I think the Patriot would rather offer a big contract to MVP type talent in Percy rather than Welker and Woodhead.

    The big question is will the Bengals, Jags, KC, or Houston offer more? And has that wheeling and dealing already taken place last spring?

    When Percy asked to be traded, did he know a deal might already be in the works?

    I believe the Vikings already have a first round pick offer for Harvin on the table.
    I believe Spielman had that offer before he placed Harvin on IR. I am only speculating.

    Lets say the Vikings had some good offers in the spring… but not good enough.
    Harvins MVP like play early in the season might have made those team increase the offer to an acceptable range… but Spielman would have been hammered by fans if he would have traded Harvin before the trade deadline during the season.

  29. By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @Champ Henson, Parkway, and MVPercy,

    Jones is still bothered by the pulling of Peterson and/or Harvin on third downs this year.

    WHAT’S UP WITH THAT?

  30. By Alex on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    I don’t want Harvin traded but what I REALLY don’t want is Harvin traded for less than he is worth. He is coming into his prime he can return kickoffs and is an excellent receiver he is worth more than a first round pick but some people are saying we would get maybe a second round pick at most?
    IF he is traded which I don’t think he will be as we heard similar things last year and nothing happened I won’t be happy at first but if we get a decent return for him it may pay off in the long run.(Cap space)<-(only reason I can justify trading him and I think its a stupid reason)

  31. By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @MVPercy,

    Thank you for explaining what you meant by BPA.

  32. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    It doesnt feel right being called MVPercy so ill change back

  33. By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @Alex,

    Yes, I agree with you on Harvin. But we do not know what goes on inside that Vikings locker room. Harvin may be a bigger problem there than we think, and perhaps no other team wants him.

  34. By Parkway on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Musgrave doesn’t know what he’s doing yet for some reason he is coming back

  35. By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Has any one ever heard of a team High School, College or the NFL, where they pulled their biggest two offensive threats on third down?

    Jones has been watching football for more than 40 years, and he has never seen or heard tell about that!

    This should be big news, and worthy of discussion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  36. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @Fred remember the 1997 superbowl? Mike Shanahan put Terell Davis in the game, who couldnt see because of a migraine, just to fake it to him on the goal line. He put a far from healthy RG3 back in during the playoffs and he tore his ACL. Now everyone is criticizing him for it.

  37. By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @Parkway,

    The “inex perience” of Musg rave might explain the third down pulling of P e terson and Harvin. But do we know that it is Musg rave’s decision alone?

    It’s not a good idea to f ire the offensive coordinator. The good teams in the NFL do not f ire coaches. That has been doc umented before. New England, for example, retains their coac hes, unless a coac h makes a move upward in another organization.

  38. By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @GrandDaddyPurp,

    Okay, so you are saying that they take Peterson and Harvin out to rest them?

    B u t have you ever heard of this tactic before? The jonesboy never has!!!

  39. By Parkway on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Firing their OC midseason seemed to work just fine for the Ravens

  40. By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @GrandDaddyPurp,

    Jones does not think it’s a bad idea to rest players during the game. Many injuries do happen in the 4th quarter of games when players are tired.

    But you don’t have to pull them on 3rd down in key situations???

  41. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    This is on the coaches they take AD and Percy out for a breather for the benefit of the individual at the expense of the TEAM. But they refused to bench Ponder….

  42. By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @GrandDaddyPurp,

    Pulling Harvin and Peterson IS in the control of the coaches. They could change that for a more positive result.

    Is Frederick Jones the only guy who has heard of the pulling of players on third down in key situations? The Vikings have never really done it, except they might have had a designated third down back. The Vikings did have one of those a few years ago.

    But to pull TWO GUYs on third down???

  43. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Fred I understand. during games I was wondering the same thing on third downs. If they really had that much trust in Ponder to convert on 3rd down without their 2 best players then maybe Ponder is better than we think he is? Or Maybe the coaches arent as good as we think they are?

    I was not happy when they were talking about Frazier being a coach of the year candidate.

  44. By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @GrandDaddy,

    Refusing to bench Ponder is something done mainly in the stone ages. You have to have your #2 QB ready! It doesn’t matter if his name is Bobby Douglas, you have to give him a chance.

    Joe Webb had about as much chance of succeeding as a golfer who never plays golf!!!

  45. By Vike Nasty on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Hmmmmm Phil Loadholt. I forget which game it was but I remember seeing not 1 but 2 defenders run around Phil and hit Christian Ponder for a sack while Phil stood there blocking air. I wish I could remember the game it was mid season.

    That being said I really like Loadholt as a person and a player. He is great blocking for AD and you can usually see Phil continuing blocks 20 yards down feild on AD’s big runs.

  46. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Yet another example of Frazier not making the right decision for the benefit of the TEAM.

  47. By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @GrandDaddyPurp,

    Well, we have to consider that Frazier may have let his Coordinators run with it. Then again he has to stand up and take credit for the bad decisions they make.

    We as fans do not see everything they are seeing. We have to be happy with the improvements the Vikings did make.

    But next year should be a whole new ball game. The silliness must be weeded out. Perhaps firing a coach must happen. But Jones is against firing the head coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  48. By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @VikeNasty,

    There was a recent article about offensive line play where they said it’s not all about sacks. Remember the QB could be hurried into whipping the ball too early.

    That is certainly the case with the Ponder.

  49. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    I could care less where Harvin goes…If the Pats have major interest ???…AWESOME !!!…
    That will have 10 other team rivals wanting to give higher draft picks to get Harvin..To keep him off the Patriots team…

    I want PLENTY of interest from teams…I hope every team in the NFL wants Harvin…Just makes Harvin’s value go up…

  50. By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Ponder averaged less than 10 yards per completion! That is very close to an NFL all-time low.

    He has to stand in there and survey the field. But COULD HE with the current O Line play?

  51. By Vike Nasty on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Yeah I get that but being hurried is not the QB’s fault so again it woul go to the offensive lineman. And I do think our biggest problem on the O-Line is Johnson not Phil but both need to be replaced or put in back up roles within the next two years.

  52. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    I’m not happy. I expect more because that is what the Coaches/Players should not only expect from each other, but more importantly from themselves.

  53. By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @Hopkins,

    Where do you get your info???

  54. By vikes4life06 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Trolls that are telling me to cut down on any language, you know what you can do. Don’t watch the video if you don’t like swearing, and to those that do watch my videos, I thank you very much. My thoughts on the Harvin trade talk

  55. By Vike Nasty on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Well it can be the QB’s fault if they don’t read the blitzes and react accordingly pre snap. but when it comes to one on ones on the outside its the O-Lines fault.

  56. By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @VikeNasty,

    I would tend to agree with you on Johnson, and perhaps even Loadholt.

    They are fairly young, but depth never hurts. We have to pick up significant players. Don’t just draft a guy in the 6th round and EXPECT his to pan out.

    That’s like throwing your coins into the air, and expecting a million dollars to fall back down.

  57. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Hopkins so your saying you wouldn’t care If we trade him to the Bears or Lions?

  58. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @Hopkins,

    Where do you get your info???

    ________________

    It was a while since I was on the computer…Just mentioning to something GDP had said earlier…

    Seeing as the Vikings are going to trade Harvin…It matters little where he goes…Lets just get fair trade value back for him…

  59. By Vike Nasty on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    haha I hear you on the 6th rounders. I think they will address the line play somehow. Speilman knows that adding one player to an attrocious o-line from 2 years ago will not be the only fix needed.

  60. By Vike Nasty on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Yeah im going to say trading Harvin is probably not necessary but if it was going to happen I’d rather see him wearing a titans or jaguars uniform over a lions or bears.

  61. By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @vikes4life,

    CLEAN IT UP!!!

  62. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Bears and Lions…That would be great…

    Because I believe Harvins bad attitude might be hidden for one year…After getting a new contract…But will be a problem child again after that…

    Harvin can’t keep his trap shut !!!…And will always be a problem…Some people NEVER grow up…I see Harvin being one of those people…

    Harvin is nothing more than over grown petulant child…And always will be…imo..

  63. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Its one thing if Harvin walks in free agency. Obviously we would have no control of where he goes. But if we are looking to trade him, we have the last say on where he will land. Why would we trade him to a team we see every year? Trade him to an AFC team.

  64. By Vike Nasty on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    I don’t mind the cursing and I still think 4lifes video’s are annoying, you need better organization or something. I do appreciate the love for the team though.

  65. By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @Hopkins,

    I agree with Vike Nasty, it does matter where he goes. We don’t want Percy Harvin to be traded to a division foe. (Unless we could get TWO first round draft choices for him.)

    We have to get at least a first rounder for Harvin. Not many teams are willing to do that, THE FRED, thinks.

    Thank you for your reply.

  66. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    If Harvin becomes buds with Cutler and Marshall…And they hit the bars together in Chicago…

    How long do you think it will take…Until reports of 2 stabbings and a gun shot wound come out in report involving those 3 guys ???…

    Sure…Send Harvin to the Bears…

  67. By Vike Nasty on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    That’s a good point GDP if we will lose him in a year (because he hates the team) why not trade him now and get something for him.

    That is of course if everyone is correct in beleiving he genuinely dislikes the organization.

  68. By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @VikeNasty,

    Well, I do not appreciate the swearing on Viking4foulLanguage. I’ve never made it past a minute or so on his videos.

    It’s hard to believe someone would put something like that on the internet.

  69. By Vike Nasty on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    hahaha yeah it definitely needs work

  70. By Vike Nasty on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    I watched two for about a minute a piece before refusing to watch anymore.

  71. By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @VikeNasty,

    …and we may have to trade Harvin for a low round pick, if we don’t make a decision soon.

    Perhaps that is why MUMs the word!!! lol

  72. By Frederick Jones on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @VikeNasty,

    Thanks for responding to my posts!!!

  73. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Hopkins you assume way too much about Harvin.

  74. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @Fred…

    Lets hope Spielman listens to your post about getting depth at the G position !!!

    C Johnson did better late in the season…But was getting abused early on…

  75. By Austin Chekal on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    I personally think there is no harm in shopping Percy around. Granted, yes he is an amazing player, when healthy. Wright impressed me breaking out towards the end of the year, while Simpson was supposed to add a threat level to our recieving. If the rumors are true about us Getting Jennings, I think if we drafted someone like Austin, or Hopkins, we would still be solid. Ponder needs to have that confident attitude that helped us in the beggining of the season. He did outstanding early off, and showed us what he is capable of. Especially with Rudolph being his redzone threat.

  76. By Vike Nasty on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    No problem @Jones, and I agree with GDP that some people assume Harvin is more of a problem than he really is. If that is what you meant GDP.

    Also would not trade Harvin for any place less than where the 1st receiver in the draft is supposed to go. Everyone knows he is was a potential MVP candidate last year so they know he’s worth more than a second round pick.

  77. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Harvin threw a weight at Childress…Yelled at Frazier on the sidelines during a game…Had a “meltdown” a few weeks later in front of several players in the locker room…

    Where am I “assuming to much” about ????

  78. By Vike Nasty on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Jennings retired I saw him holding a conference talking to the Green Bay media saying he promised the Pack fans that he would never play for another team and was going to keep his word.

  79. By Austin Chekal on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @ Vike Nasty

    I’m pretty sure that was Driver.

  80. By Vike Nasty on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Where did you hear all of that. Only thing I saw was the incident on the sidelines where Frazier told him to sit down and he did.

  81. By Vike Nasty on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Oh snaps thats right I will shut up now haha.

  82. By Austin Chekal on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @ Vike Nasty

    It’s all good. Lol. And I’ve heard about Percy having his “tantrums” as they were nothing like Titus Young’s but still. Percy demanded a trade so obviously he wasn’t/isn’t happy.

  83. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Hopkins there is always the chance if we trade him that he goes on and does great things with whatever team he ends up with while we are sitting in the wind in need of a wide receiver wondering why on earth we ever considered trading Harvin in the first place. I’m saying there is always the chance. You cant assume. Will we win a superbowl next year? Yeah we will assuming everyone of our starters does not get injured at all. Does that mean it will happen? No it does not.

    How did the Moss trade work out for us. You cannot ASSume the oppisite will happen if we trade Harvin.

  84. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @Vike Nasty yes that is exactly what I meant thank you for clarifying that one up for me.

  85. By Vike Nasty on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    If thats the case then all we need to do is figure out how many draft picks we should get for him. I’m thinking a first and a second is doable. even if the second rounder comes for next year.

  86. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    If you want a huge pay raise ???….Its best not to yell in the face of your boss !!!..

    Harvin didn’t do that once…But TWICE in a 2 week period…

    Maybe the Vikings and Percy do not get along !!!…

  87. By Austin Chekal on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    I don’t think we will get a first rounder out of Harvin, although we all know what he is worth, but maybe a second round, or multiple picks and or player. Out of all 32 nfl teams there are 32 teams that would be interested in him. Yes, Including the vikings. They know what he is capable of. But he’s had health issues in the past, “ankle” and with his migranes.

  88. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    You cant act like these Professional Athletes are above us just because they make multi millions of dollars or because they are on TV. At the end of the day they are just like you and me, HUMAN. They have flaws just like me and yes just like you Hopkins. Dont ever forget that.

    Harvin didnt have his “tantrums’ just to get face time on TV. He did it because he is the ultimate competitor and he wants to win. Do you remember the play-calling of that Seattle game? Do you remember the OLine play and the QB play that game? I’m sure you were just as frustrated as he was. The only difference? He was actually out there giving his absolute best to WIN while the OLine, QB, and more importantly the coach was not. I think he has the right to voice his opinion.

  89. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    vikes4life- clean it up or I will remove you from this blog– keep that c.r.a.p in carolina.

  90. By Bigfan1 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    I’m not sure about trading Percy Harvin, but we went to the playoffs without him and it seemed like the team jelled without him and it would give us some good picks possibly.

  91. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    I’m beyond trying to get us to pay him because its pretty clear he wont be a Viking for long.

  92. By Vike Nasty on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    It blows because I would like to keep him if he is not a major problem. Although I don’t like having Ponder looking for only Percy on every play. It was nice seeing him spread it around without Harvin in there even if there was an increase in drops.

  93. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    The problem is…We don’t have to deal with Harvin..

    Frazier and Spielman do…And they don’t think Harvin’s issues are something they want on this team…By the look of things…

    Frazier just had a presser a few days ago…The person doing the interview asked Frazier…”What do you deem more important..When evaluating a player..
    Over all talent ???…Or how that player fits your team and the chemistry in the locker room” ???…

    Guess what frazier answered ???…”How that player fits the team…And the chemistry in the locker room”…

  94. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    We didnt bring Percy in to, excuse my language, kiss anyone’s @ss. We brought him in to win football games and anyone who actually watches Harvin can see he gives 100 percent on every snap. Those are the type of players that make super bowl teams. I would rather have Harvin than I guy like Dwayne Bowe who has had his effort questioned on multiple occasions. And to back that up further Percy was out there giving everything even during the season we went 3-13 in. If thats not a winner I dont know what is.

  95. By Parkway on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    At least Schefter has common sense:

    “It would seem strange for a team whose biggest need is WR to trade away their best WR”

    “My sources tell me that Harvin actually has a great relationship with Frazier and that he has a lot of love for Frazier”

    Sorry OTK looks like your theory is off.

  96. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    I guess my point is Hopkins. Percy will be successful wherever he goes. You should not assume wherever he goes that team will fall apart. This team did not fall apart and every year he has been a Viking he has had great success despite us not fully utilizing his talent.

  97. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    By Parkway on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    At least Schefter has common sense:

    “It would seem strange for a team whose biggest need is WR to trade away their best WR”

    “My sources tell me that Harvin actually has a great relationship with Frazier and that he has a lot of love for Frazier”

    Sorry OTK looks like your theory is off.

    ___________________________

    Looks like Scheftner is kissing some ass…So when the big story breaks…He gets first dibs on who Harvin is traded too…hahaha…

  98. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    See vikes4life06 I get frustrated too because of this team, but I do not need to use profanity to express that frustration. I would obviously be lying if I said I have never cussed before.

    I agree with Titus, Fred, and co. you need to clean it up.

  99. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Hop do you see what i’m saying?

  100. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Well anyway I have to go for a while. I still love you all lol. Be safe.

    AND SKOL

  101. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Porblem personalities…Stay a problem…

    Did Chad (Ocho) Johnson ever grow up ???…Did T Owens ???…Will a player like Titus Young ???…

    I don’t see it…And think Harvin will follow that mold…

    These kind of drama queens are not worth it…I can’t stand those type of players…

  102. By Vike Nasty on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Wait so how does everyone feel about Loadholt?

  103. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    See vikes4life06 I get frustrated too because of this team, but I do not need to use profanity to express that frustration. I would obviously be lying if I said I have never cussed before.

    I agree with Titus, Fred, and co. you need to clean it up.

    ———

    I agree also…To much swearing…Totally distracts from any kind of point you try to make…

  104. By Northern Norseman on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    With the 23rd pick in the 2013 NFL Draft…..

    The Minnesota Vikings select…..

    Forest Gump…..

    All-purpose player….

    Alabama

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WPkwQbUWpU

  105. By Carl K on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    If AP wants Loadholt back… that is good enough for me. Show him the money.
    With that said, FA is loaded with good tackles. So, I think the Vikings should be able to resign Loadholt at a fair price.

  106. By Northern Norseman on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @Carl K

    I just love how AP has become to well respected that we will obey his wisdom.

    I am one of those.

    Keep the Leveling Loadholt!

  107. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Loadholt is a beast…And getting better every year…Who gives a hoot about a few off side penalties or holds…When your RB is reeling off 2000 yards for the season…

    Keep him…Unless he wants way to much money ??…

  108. By purplengold on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Loadholt needs to be better coached. He needs to lose 25-35 lbs and become more disciplined on the line, too many penalties. A lot of talent in draft but if staff does their job Phil could be a great asset. Keeping a disciplined Loadholt gets us 1 big step closer to Super Bowl. Keeping an undisciplined overweight Loadholt will set us back for years.

  109. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    By purplengold on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Loadholt needs to be better coached. He needs to lose 25-35 lbs and become more disciplined on the line, too many penalties. A lot of talent in draft but if staff does their job Phil could be a great asset. Keeping a disciplined Loadholt gets us 1 big step closer to Super Bowl. Keeping an undisciplined overweight Loadholt will set us back for years.

    _______________________

    Very good point…
    Loadholt was following a lazy McKinney’s lead a few years back ???….But seems to have left those bad habits in the past…
    Since McKinney was released…

    That is the reason you get rid of locker room cancers like McKinney…It effects other players work habits…It really does…

  110. By Parkway on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Patterson, Harvin, Wright, Sw ope, Brown.

    You can’t stop that.

  111. By Parkway on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Oh I’m not sure if it was mentioned on here yet, but turns out we have our 6th round pick still. So we have 9 picks, need to turn those into about 5 good players

  112. By dakotakid59 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Vikings4life; you need 2 shut the F**k up with your videos I mean do you kiss your mom with that mouth. Percy’s a great talent but a greater headach (like one of his Migranes ) Would Be nice if we could trade straigh up 4 someone like Larry Fitzgerald who grew up in Minnesota. And was actually a ballboy for the Vikings at one time.Probally will never happed, but one can dream.

  113. By vikingbob136 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    I think that you have to get a #1 for Harvin. He is a star on any team.
    We should try to keep Loadholt. You can’t teach size.
    It was nice to see Birk win the Super Bowl, although i wasn’t too happy that McKinnie shared in the glory.He got very lazy when he wore purple.
    I would be very happy with Mike Wallace wearing purple.He can get separation from any CB.
    Call me nuts but i like Klein (Kansas State)on our team as a back up. Later………

  114. By Carl K on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    For some of you that don’t think the Vikings will get a first round pick for Harvin… think agian.

    Harvin may only have 1 year left on his contract, so the team that trades for him may not want to give up much. I get that! However, a team that trades for Harvin and then can’t resign him will surely get a 2nd or 3rd round comp pick if the lose him in as a FA. No real risk at that value! A 2-3rd round offer was probably turned down in the spring.

    Most NFL fans out thier in the blogging/chatting world seem to want Harvin at that 2-3 round value mark… however, the demand for Harvin (multiple teams wanting him) will drive his value up to the 1-2 first round area… that probably already happened when Harvin was playing great at the beginning of the season.

    I am banking that Spielman has a first round pick already in his pocket for Harvin right now. Otherwise he would just hold on to him and take his 2 or 3rd round comp pick next year.

    Spielman has already compared harvin to AP as a blue chip game changer. No way will he take anything less than a 1st round pick!!!!!!!!!!

  115. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Carl– no question– Harvin will bring in a first rounder, and the way Spielman is playing his poker, he will have teams salivating and fighting for Harvin.

  116. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/11/harvin-is-expected-to-hold-out-under-current-deal/

  117. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1524612-where-will-percy-harvin-play-in-2013

  118. By Carl K on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Harvin may hold out of camp, but he will not hold out for the entire year… that would be crazy on his part. He would not get paid his 2-3 million this year, plus he will hurt his next free agent contract deal.

    The question is do the Vikings want his distraction? If they wanted to resign Harvin and build around him they would have done it by now. Or at the very lest Spielman and Frazier would be talking about resigning him.

    Spielman is careful with his words, Rick has already labeled Harvin as a “Blue Chip” player like AP. That tells me he values Percy very strongly! And I don’t think he will just give him away for a 3rd round pick.

    I have faith that Spielman has this Percy thing under control. Percy hasn’t said much so he must be ok with what is happening.

  119. By Troutdaddy on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    I listened to the radio in Seattle today while here on business and they are licking their chops at the prospect of getting Harvin. If the Vikes are looking to get a trade done, believe me- there are planty of teams looking to grab him up and many would be willing to give their first round pick for him. Harvin is an amazing player, but do the Vikes want to pony-up the cash to pay him? I think they will give him a good offer to stay around as they know what kind of player he is. To have that type of talent already here would be a waste of time and money to go looking for something else that is basically the same thing unless something falls into our lap. I say, PAY PERCY and go after filling the other holes. We don’t want to create a new hole. We already got too many to fill as it is…Reality tells me that he gets traded though… I just want to see our Vikes improve their situation. I am in a daze trying to figure it out…

  120. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_22565506/bob-sansevere-vikings-percy-harvin-divorce-appears-best

  121. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Here is a report about Harvin…From a guy who did his homework… :-)

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1524639-how-much-is-percy-harvin-really-worth

  122. By Parkway on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    It’s easy to see every team will want Harvin. A talent like that is not available for trade often (though I doubt he even is). We should accept no less than 2 first rounds and a later round pick.

  123. By RichardA1 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Give me a break, you know someone young, proven talent, game changer, with good years ahead, you know the Vikings have had some offers! for what tho, there holding out on us, Do we want draft choices, a player? Percy is a game changer, superstar, capable of carrying the team by itself, you know they have had some offers! what are they??? let’s here them Vikings!

  124. By liito on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Loadholt is a load. He is needed. Get another humongous and nasty lineman who can rotate anywhere in the line, then AD may have a chance at 2500 yards. Difficult but doable for AP MVP.

  125. By MTfan on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Let him go!!!! We can do much better. He’s the weakest link in our O-line.

  126. By vikings rule on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    there are not many teams that can afford Harven, he will get at least 10 million a year, the 3 teams that have alot of cap space, Miami, Cleveland and New England all have plenty of cap space, and all 3 teams are interested in Harvin. if Spielman and Frazier really do let Harvin go, they better have a outstanding FA and draft or the Vikings are in trouble, most experts say Harvin will bring only a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick. if that’s the case Spielman and Frazier both should be fired if that’s all they get

  127. By Nicholas on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @WRHopkins

    Even though that guy did his homework; I still disagree with him. Percy Harvin is a blue chip player and deserves at least a 1st round pick plus more…IMHO.

  128. By Nicholas on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    http://www.dailynorseman.com/2013/2/10/3975342/phil-loadholt-minnesota-vikings-free-agency

  129. By Carl K on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    WRhopkins- good post.
    However, the teams that will give a 2nd or a 3rd for Harvin is a mile long.
    Line up!!!
    Seattle
    KC
    Pitt
    GB
    Houston
    Arizona
    Miami
    Cleveland
    Jacksonville
    San Fran
    Buffalo
    New England

    Just to name a few.

    What the writer did not talk about is how interest and demand can drive value up! The Vikings have been listening to Percy offers for a long time now!!!

  130. By Parkway on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Supply and Demand, economics 101. 1 Harvin, many teams

  131. By Shawn on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Alright time to bring some reason to early blog debates … I got about 20+ posts in and felt some people needed a scolding :)

    1- Trading Percy to the AFC is the best option … he will have no affect in a Super Bowl run … so if you think NE is a bad idea you are wrong

    2- DWayne Bowe … the article says he wont demand VJax money and that he has been a better teamate the last 2 seasons … sometimes a guy just needs a change of scenery to shine. Example – Jared Allen (with age comes wisdom and maturity)

    3- PAY LOADHOLT – I still dont see why peeps dont like this guy. I think some never forgave him for a rough season last season because Loadholt played very well this year. I only know of 1 game he had penalty issues and as I remember it he was getting called because Sully wasnt snapping the ball on time. Yes I do remember a few plays he got beat badly in the pass game but like a CB you move on to the next play.

    OK thats my 4 cents for now …

    PS – I could be wrong about DWayne Bowe. Even NFL scouts are wrong sometimes. Just ask whoever took Duane Clemons over Ray Lewis or Troy Williamson

  132. By Shawn on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    1 more thing …

    DWAYNE BOWE

  133. By Dr. Remulak on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    I hope Miami is interested. It sounds like New England is.

    The fact that they are division rivals could make this interesting. There could be a definite bidding war for Percy. Miami has the Cap space ($46 mil) and they have two 2nd round picks and two 3rd round picks. They need a WR and have the ammunition to get him, simultaneously stealing a player the Patriots covet.

    If we could get Miami to swap picks with us in the 1st round (12th pick) and give us one of their 2nd round picks and maybe a 3rd in next years draft, I could be okay with that.

    If we had the 12th pick overall we could definitely get Patterson, Ogletree or even a guy like Star Lotulelei might fall to us.

  134. By Flap jack on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Catl K. of your entire list I want GB! Come on Greenbay! Outbid everyone and get Percy! I want to see Percy Harvin to show all the nuts runing the Vikings camp, what a bunch of idiots they are! I want to watch Percy return TD after TD !

    That would be twice a year I get to watch a first class player take it to the Vikings!

  135. By vikingbob136 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    No way Harvin winds up in Green bay or Chicago anytime soon.
    Trade him to the AFC.
    Sign Mike Wallace! And cut Carlson.

  136. By Shawn on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    I like the idea of using Percy to move up to around pick 10 (give or take a couple) and add a second rounder.

    That would give us 3 of the top 55 … and 3 starters would be flipping kool

    of course I dont expect the WR class to have a starter … a few major contributors but its will take a couple seasons before the WR class starts to shine.

  137. By Mike Redman on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    It’s funny to read all the speculation on here. I hope Harvin stays and gets a contract extension but if he wants out you have to get rid of him and get something in return otherwise he’ll play this year, be a pain in the butt and be out of here next year.

    Some of you over value him. It’s highly unlikely we’re getting a first round pick for him. We might be able to swap first round picks and then give him up but that would be about it. If we could get a late first round for him that would be awesome but that’s a stretch. As productive as he is on the field, he’s an injury risk and teams see that.

    I also think the Vikings are willing to not get as much in return for him because they played better without him. Divas don’t make your team better. They make you one dimensional. That’s ok if its the RB, but not when it’s a WR. We need WR threats, but you want ones with the attitude of Calvin Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald.

  138. By Parkway on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    If Miami traded us their first since they are the ones looking to take a WR early… then our draft looked like this:

    1st: Patterson (WR)
    1st: Rhodes (CB)
    2nd: Greene (OLB)
    3rd: Pugh (OG)
    4th: Spence (DT)
    4th: King (WR)
    5th: Barner (RB)
    6th: Commings (CB)
    7th: Armstrong (SS)

    Then I would be happy enough with trading Harvin if that’s what we are donig.

  139. By Parkway on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Though with that many picks it would be wise to package a few picks to move up and get just a few high quality players instead of a bunch of players since we aren’t exactly in rebuilding mode right now.

  140. By Dr. Remulak on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    New Englands 1st round pick and Ryan Mallet. He’d be a good back up in case Ponder goes down or an eventual replacement if they wanted to move away from Ponder in the future.

  141. By Carl K on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Dr R- Your trade with Miami is too good a value for the Vikings.
    let’s look at a draft value chart….
    Percy was drafted #22 over all which has a chart value of 780 points.
    that is the points value Spielman will be looking for.

    So, swapping 1st round picks with Miami gains Minnesota 440 points.
    Miami has pick 42 and 54.
    42 is worth 480 points
    54 is worth 360

    Anyone of those picks would put Miami over the value needed to trade for Harvin.

    Miami will not swap 1st rounds and give us a 2nd and a 3Rd.

    Miami already has a good slot guy in Devone Bess. RB Reggie Bush is a free agent… WR Brian Hartline had a breakout year and is free agent… So Miami could be a team interested in Harvin. However, I see Miami more interested in a #1 type WR. I have seen a lot of rumors G Jenning wants to go to Miami
    And Miami might want him.

    If the Dolphins re-sign Bush and sign Jennings. I don’t think they will want to go after Harvin.

    That is good news because C Patterson might fall to the Vikings if Miami signs Bush Hartline and Jennings.

  142. By pinkerton on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    im sorry but im not on the suck percies d1ck bandwagon. im sure harrison could send him right back to the ir list if they faced each other.

  143. By 1vikingsfan on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    TAVON AUSTIN!!!!!!

  144. By Carl K on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    If Miami says good bye to Reggie Bush than Harvin would be an option, but I believe Miami would also be interested in Gerhartt too. Miami likes rookie RB Lamar Miller.

    Miller and Gerhart would be a good 1 2 punch in the backfield. Harvin Bess and Jennings would give them some WR weapons.

    Miami has the picks to do a block buster deal.

  145. By Dr. Remulak on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    @Carl K, Yeah. I was just thinking the same thing. Realistically, they’d probably be more interested in Toby.

  146. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    If Harvin is traded, just make sure it is not to the Bears!

  147. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Better make it an AFC team– and then hope we don’t see them in the SuperBowl.

  148. By vikings rule on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    vikings won’t be in the superbowl anytime soon, we are in the celler again next year according to all the nfl.com experts

  149. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    experts are experts because they cannot get a real job.

  150. By vikings rule on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    they get paid about 500,000/year, seems like a real job to me.

  151. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    How often are they wrong?

  152. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Monetary compensation has no relevance to what I was defining. Real jobs you cannot be in error half the time and keep them.

  153. By vikings rule on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    most come in at a 78 percent or higher, that’s well over 50 percent

  154. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1525260-unpacking-dwayne-bowes-baggage-concerns-heading-into-free-agency

  155. By Dr. Remulak on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Yeah, How many analysts, last year, were picking us to finish in last place? About 90%. At the same time they were pumping the Panthers, the Bucs, the Lions and even the Cards. How did those teams do?

  156. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    vikings rule, you really think you can win a debate with Titus? Give it up. You miss the point.

  157. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Try being a pilot and making the runway upon landing 78% of the time.

  158. By vikings rule on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    with Spielman and Frazier running the circus show trying to get rid of Harvin, and looking at our tough schedule next year, i can see how they come up with that

  159. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Shawn I will repeat what I said earlier for you.

    In the Bill Belichick era I have never seen a trade involving the Pats that has worked out for the other team in the deal.

    Trade Percy only to an AFC team, but not the Patriots. Belichick will try to get him for as little as he can. We are trying to get as much as possible for him. It just doesnt match.

  160. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000138139/article/percy-harvin-reportedly-plans-vikings-contract-holdout

    Its obvious Percy still wants to be a Viking.

  161. By Rick on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    Vikings will be just fine without Harvin. If the right deal is there take it. I say we throw in vikings rule all he does is complain anyway

  162. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 11, 2013 | Reply

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

  163. By mjbvikeme on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Harvin plays KR,RB,WR. Just giving stats on his WR line do not do Percy justice. We need to keep Percy. He hits the proper holes from all positions, his football IQ is off the charts. He is the type of player you build around. 24 years old, Peterson is 28 just hiting his prime running over 2k. In 4 years Harvin will be even more amazing. No need to trade away dynamic players.
    HARVIN RUNS AS HARD AS HE CAN WITHOUT HITTING THE BREAKS AND DESTROYS DEFENDERS. you dont want to see that type of entertainment anymore on your favorite team?

  164. By Flap jack on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Rick and Titus. Two overated clowns! And yes, trade Harvin to the BEARS !
    And then GO BEARS!!! HAHA HAHAHAHA and HAHAHAHA

  165. By 1vikingsfan on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Flap jack I feel sorry for you. You are the stupidest vikings fan I know so far.

  166. By pinkerton on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    im not that worried about losing percy. ill def keep him or id def get rid of him for the right compinsation. i dont see HIM being a huge factor at us making a superbowl run. we hit a skid with him on the team midseason. yes yes ponder didnt do amazing during same time but its not a 1 man show. granted qbs do have a good factor in it. but hey we had a short. then we let joe flounder it w mushgrave never gettin creative(go figure) i like all horns working together with the right attitude and confident get the job done when need be mojo. thats how champs are born. not individual stats. id like to see pecy go to the raiders if he must go. thatd be hilarious. hed be like randy. aw boo hoo i miss my old teamates. (in reference to him talking to pats) everybody who is a nfl analyst or fan whatever needs to doubt an ridicule our team again. i believe itll fuel the fire. no matter what SKOL VIKINGS

  167. By 1vikingsfan on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Are you even a vikings fan?? It would make more sense if you are a packers fan:)

  168. By pinkerton on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    are you kidding me of course im bleed purple. i just dont want a a$$hole on my team. i love what the lil nog brings to the table. u curse the ball coach with helment on ??

  169. By pinkerton on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    why wouldnt he do that to muscgrave when he says after adrain you then back to adrain thenm back to you then adrain then you again

  170. By pinkerton on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    a cheeser are you kidding. id hang myself before such a travisty

  171. By pinkerton on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    forget all this percy talk. it drives me nuts. the kids good ill leave it at that. i want my boy clowney on the dline season after next. thatd be AMAZING!

  172. By Mike B. on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Although Harvin is a good WR, he is no Vincent Jackon or a Randy Moss. The report said he may hold out on his last year of his contract. That isn’t uncommon in the NFL, but you add in all the distractins Harvin has had through the years. It adds up to a prima donna attitude. I don’t think the Vikings Org wants to deal with it. I am not sure how much trade value there is for an often hurt WR, but I think if you get a 2nd or 1st rounder pick for him go for it. Little side note for Vikes4life06, your swearing causes your message to be lost and shows a lack of use of good converstation skills. I also think that excessive swearing shows a lack of intellegence, but that’s not always true. I didn’t listen to your vid btw as I don’t care for your language.

  173. By Jayson on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    I definitely think that keeping loadholt is a good idea and I also like the idea of grabbing another guard in the early part of the draft. Now, the Percy Harvin issue is very complex because on the one hand, he is an extremely versitile and dynamic talent who is only 24. He can do SO MUCH for an offense and I dont know that there is anyone who can make an offense as explosive as harvin can. On the other hand, keeping him is going to require paying him ALOT of money which would really limit what the Vikes can do to add more talent in areas of need. of course, there is also the issue of his attitude and injuries which as we know is something that has been negetive for the Vikings in other players that they have had (i.e Moss).

    The way that I see this is that if they decide to trade him, they should get AT LEAST a first round pick. I like the idea of dealing with Miami. They could swap first round picks and we could also take thier 2nd round pick. That would give us the #12 overall and then we would get 2 2nd round picks. I guess we will see what happens

  174. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Harvin…I’m not saying it is…I’m not going to say it isn’t ???…

    Some people need to have a rock hit them in the head to see the truth !!!…
    Harvin doesn’t like the Vikings…And the Vikings are tired of Percy…

    http://min.scout.com/2/1266192.html

  175. By VikingTran on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Percy will warrant a 1st and third round pick. Spielman already has his house in order. Loadholdt is resigned, we use our 1st pick for Allen and 2nd for DT. Watch. It will happen.

    Flapjack you need,

    to go to your own site. I think you are a secret Vikings wanna be but you can’t be cool just by wasting our time with your nonsense. Go join your swearing buddy
    and make a new video or something.

  176. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Vikings mock draft 1.0

    http://min.scout.com/2/1266177.html

  177. By Parkway on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    NO NO NO TEO

  178. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    I do not want to “swap picks” in the first round if Harvin is traded…Give up a first round pick for Harvin ???…Sure…No swapping anything….

    I want extra picks…The Vikings are in PERFECT position right now in the draft for their needs…

    I would be more than happy if the Jags were willing to give up the 33rd pick in the draft for Harvin…Or if Miami gave up their first pick in the second round for Harvin…Or their second pick 54th over all and and maybe a later selection also….

    Spielman could do a lot with the first pick on the second day of the draft !!!…And Harvin would sell an awful lot of tickets in Jacksonville !!!…If he returned to Florida !!…

  179. By RichardA1 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Harvin equaled out to be as good as moss, could moss return kicks like Harvin? no, could he be a runningback like Harvin?, no, Moss was probably the best deep threat ever to play football I think, and thats all. Harvin has alot to offer, with more years ahead of him, this is a star athlete, proven with more years the same to come, we should get something beneficial for him. I want to hear some offers for him.

  180. By Flap jack on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    1vikingfan————>obscenity. repulisve–vile–gibberish–idiot–not to mention an assho11e. matches up quite well, with loudmouth titus.

  181. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    One would think by my opinions on the Harvin situation…I totally blame Harvin…For how this situation has come to a head ???…

    I do not…I do blame Frazier and Musgrave to an “extent” also…Frazier set such a low bar of “accountability” of performance on all the WR’s since becoming head coach…I can understand some of Harvin’s frustrations…Berrian was a joke..How did that guy stay on the team so long !!!…Aroma and Burton are just BAD !!…Alligator arms on both all season long…Yet they stayed on the team all last year…Simpson hurt himself jumping over cheerleaders heads…Can’t a player be held a little more accountable for foolish actions than that…And Jenkins did okay for being slow and older than dirt…

    Before Harvin went completely mad…He mentioned how well Wright looked in practice…I think actually putting in a “plug” for his teammate to play ???…But still Frazier kept his rag tag underachievers in…Giving Harvin no help at WR ???…

    There has been a LOT of water under the bridge between Harvin and the coaching staff…And it is time for both to move on…I am glad to see steps are going in that direction…Before the skeletons in the closet come out to haunt both sides !!!…

    I wish you well Percy…I do not blame you for everything…But you still have to respect the organization you work for…They pay the bills…

    Good luck…You will be missed…But it is time to part ways…imo…

  182. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_22571911/percy-harvin-disgruntled-vikings-star-likely-interests-49ers

  183. By Mike B. on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    I agree with WRHopkins on Harvin. You can have just some much distraction from a player and then you have to cut ties with them. I would rather Harvin stay on the team, but if it’s going to be a hardship for him and the coaches. Time to say goodbye. I dsagree on his trade value. He’s been hurt often and the off field issues are going to kill his value. A single first or second round pick is the best we can expec to get for him. IMO

  184. By Mike B. on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Loadholt, I can see the reason for resigning him. He’s a positive influence in the locker room and puts out the effort. The negatives though poor pass blocking is a definate bad thing for a RT. I think we should look for an option at RT before resigning him. Remember the “ole” days. IMO.

  185. By Parkway on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    I’m surprised you aren’t advocating a Kluwe trade then, he has been much more disruptive than Harvin. Only difference? Harvin has talent….

  186. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/12/adrian-peterson-says-hed-never-trade-percy-harvin/

  187. By snook on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    must keep harvin and sign another big name wide out

  188. By Parkway on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Hey AD has a brain too!

  189. By Flap jack on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Harvin to the SF 49ers? Now that would also be great! I would have a brand new team to cheer on! I will just add the niners to my list of teams to root for and cheer on to beat the shiit out of Fraziers misfits!!!

  190. By Vikings1 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    @vikings rule

    I agree with Titus, you are missing the point, also Frazier and Speilman are not trying to get rid of Harvin, he is the one that wants to leave and they are just trying to respect his wishes. I like Harvin, however, if he is not traded i feel that he will be a problem for the team, just my opinion!

  191. By Matthias on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    I will say the same thing as last year sign him. A big part of it should be “extra”, for comleting certain goals…

  192. By Matthias on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    I will say the same thing as last year, sign him. A big part of it should be “extra”, for completing certain goals…

  193. By Carl K on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Good For AP!
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000138474/article/adrian-peterson-wants-percy-harvin-to-remain-a-viking

    Peterson is a class act and a team leader!

  194. By Carl K on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    I have also seen a reports that Frazier says he told Harvin he wanted him back.

    I just wish Harvin would speak from his heart.
    Does he want to be traded or does he want to stay??? Speak up Percy!

  195. By Carl K on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/05/leslie-frazier-hopefully-everything-works-out-with-harvin/

    I would NOT take less than a first round pick for Harvin. He is worth re-signing!
    49ers have something like 14 draft picks… I am seeing reports that they are interested in Harvin. Pony up the picks… Harvin has value!!!!!!!

  196. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    AD knows just how good Percy is.
    MVPeterson and MVPercy.

  197. By vikings rule on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    they should of never let randy moss go, now they want to do the same thing with percy, Frazier and Speilman don’t care about winning

  198. By Carl K on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Yesterday, I was 99% sure Harvin wasn’t coming back.
    Today… I don’t know what to think.

    Wobby – help us out. You know Percy…. Tell us what you think will happen with this Harvin drama. AP was man enough to speak from his heart. It is your turn. Do you want Harvin back?

    Does Harvin want to be a part of this team???

    Give us a nugget of a story please! I know you don’t know what will happen this offseason, but you could share your inside opinion and thoughts about Harvin and what he has been like with you.

  199. By Carl K on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/blogs/190614531.html

    Very interesting.
    Frazier says he loves Harvin and wants him to be a part of this team.

  200. By Jeremy on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    If we trade Harvin..it’s official, we are the WORST trading franchise in the history of the NFL……………

    s.h.i.t makes me mad we have the best receiving, multi talented player the NFL has seen in a long time.. it’s crazy to me everyone complains about no receivers on this team but at the same time they want to kick our best one right out the front door..for nothing in return

    Also why didn’t we take a chance on Titus Young??????????? instead the rams get him?????????? what????????????????

  201. By warren on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    We need to sign Percy to a multi year deal that is what a bunch of the drama with him has been about. Trading him is the worst thing we can do at this point. He does have good trade value, but he would leave a huge hole to fill. Picking up another WR in free agency would cost just as much as paying Percy. Wallace comes with baggage and Ponder doesn,t have the arm to throw to him, Bowe comes with baggage too and I really don’t see KC getting rid of him. We need to pay Percy that is all there is to it. If Ponder is going to show us he is the future he needs a receiver like Percy to move the chains. No draft pick that we would get for trading him would fill the hole he would leave in the offense. I would rather have Percy on the team than Wallace, Bowe, or Cruz because he is so much more dynamic. If we are building through the draft like Speilman says then we need to retain the guys we draft.

  202. By Jeremy on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Well said Warren….glad to see people on the same side…some of these other birds on here want to get rid of him faster than Moss left the second time.

  203. By Jeremy on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    BTW Hopkins2013…Frazier isn’t the boss!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  204. By warren on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Any thoughts on us signing Victor Butler or Brad Jones

  205. By purplengold on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Looking at Percy Harvin rationally.
    Pros: under 30, great hands, great speed, great quickness
    Cons: Migranes first few years, fought with two head coaches PUBLICLY, on finished one season of 16 games, spent end of last year with ankle injury which still has to pass physical, very expensive.
    A second round this year and a 4th or 5th next year depending on how he does would be best we can do.
    No GM will take his baggage, uncertainty,
    and expense for a number 1, especially
    since Jets let Tannanbaum go.

  206. By dee jay born on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    i would like to see Percy to stay,but if he goes then Jarius Wright is gonna have to grow and excel rather quickly because he may be a slot WR and assume Harvin’s role in the offense..

  207. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Percy has missed 10 games in his 4 year career. 7 of those 10 came this season.

  208. By Parkway on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    I have faith in Spielman to do what is right with Harvin. I’ll be surprised if we trade him.

    If we do trade him, Spielman will get at least a first, and if our draft turned out like this:

    1st: Patterson (WR)
    1st: Rhodes (CB)
    2nd: Greene (OLB)
    3rd: Pugh (OG)
    4th: Spence (DT)
    4th: King (WR)
    5th: Barner (RB)
    6th: Commings (CB)
    7th: Armstrong (SS)

    Then I would be happy enough with trading Harvin if that’s what we are doing.

  209. By Carl K on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    @Parkway- I like Patterson, I like Greene… I would take a DT in Rhodes spot.
    In Pughs spot I would take a RB Joseph Randle or Marcus Lattimore. We will need a true 3rd down back that can catch if we lose Harvin. A back that can take it to the house. A RB that can also pick up a blitz.
    4th round- I might take safety Bacarri Rambo… he loves to rip the ball out
    4th round – if a big armed QB like Tyler Brey or Landry Jone is available, go for it.
    5th round is a good spot to take Arkansas guard Alvin Bailey.
    7th round if we don’t already have back up QB we need to take Colby Cameron
    7th- I like CB Commings or Micah Hyde

    However if we resign Harvin I would take Keenan Allen or Justin Hunter over Patterson. I would also think about drafting Tyler Bray in round 3 if Harvin’s issue is with Ponder.

  210. By rmk800 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    i dont blame percy for arguing with frazier. percy cant do much when ponder cant hit the broad side of a barn out side of 20 yds and when he took shots deep to harvin they were 3+ yds out of bounds

  211. By Young nov on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Everyone needs to lobby for percy back instead of talking about trading him! If anything get rid of the Spielman and build around AD and Percy!
    P.S. Ponder needs to get cut!

  212. By RichardA1 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    So? we don’t know what Harvin thinks, he wants off the team or to stay on? All we know is he had a argument with the head coach and the Vikes decided they don’t tolerate that at all-and now shopping to trade him. some team has got to want him, he has alot to offer.

  213. By Parkway on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Don’t think any of those guys you mentioned will be available in the rounds you are projecting,

  214. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Subject to change…Maybe many times..;-)

    1st round…23rd…WR Hopkins…
    2nd round…33rd…(Trade for Harvin with Jags)…ILB Teo…
    2nd round 52nd…WR Patton…
    3rd round….83rd… G/C/OT Quessenberry…
    4th round…99th…DE Carradine…
    4th round…117th…RB Lattimore…
    5th round DT…
    7th round CB..
    7th round S…

    Pick up a starting DT in free agency…

  215. By mjbvikeme on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Who said Percy doesnt want to be here? try and find a qoute from percy that says he doesnt want to be a viking. The trade request came from who in the preseason? His agent says he wants a new contract, that sounds to me he wants to be viking for a longer period of time.

  216. By Spencer on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Alright Parkway, what’s the latest conspiracy with the LA cop.

    Is it all a hoax?

  217. By Parkway on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    I didn’t hear much about it or haven’t followed the story.

    And we have our 6th still according to Spielman BTW OTK

  218. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    By Parkway on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    I didn’t hear much about it or haven’t followed the story.

    And we have our 6th still according to Spielman BTW OTK

    _________________

    Very cool !!!

  219. By PurplHaze on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply
    Subject to change…Maybe many times..;-)
    1st round…23rd…WR Hopkins…
    2nd round…33rd…(Trade for Harvin with Jags)…ILB Teo…
    2nd round 52nd…WR Patton…
    3rd round….83rd… G/C/OT Quessenberry…
    4th round…99th…DE Carradine…
    4th round…117th…RB Lattimore…
    5th round DT…
    7th round CB..
    7th round S…
    Pick up a starting DT in free agency…
    *******
    based on all I’ve seen from T’eo, I hope you’re wrong with that second pick. That guy hits like a pillow! We’re better off resigning Brinkley.

  220. By Parkway on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Yeah big no thanks on Teo

  221. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    PurplHaze …

    I was more projecting the trade with that 33rd pick…Than the player…

    Just think the Vikes will either go ILB or DT with that pick if they end up with a high second round pick for Harvin ???…

  222. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    It sounds like ILB Brown might be the best fit for our cover 2 system ???…

    Can’t wait for the combine…Then we can really see how the players stack up against each other… ;-)

  223. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    The reason I went with DE Carradine and RB Lattimore in the 4th round…Is both players were ranked to go in the middle of the first round…Before each went down with injury…

    And we know how Spielman likes taking flyer’s around the 4th round…on players slipping because of injury concerns…

    Vikkes have good depth at both of those positions right now…And could give either player time to rehab their injuries…And could end up steals next season ???… :-)

  224. By Carl K on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    if anyone wants to see Joe Webb make a crazy 1 handed catch for TD check out the YouTube video called:
    Sam Hunt – Quarterback and Musician

    if you wants to see a little more of what Webb looks like as a WR, check out the YouTube video called:
    2007 UAB Football Preview – Wide Receiver

  225. By Parkway on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Wouldn’t it be nice if that was the big surprise of the year for us that Webb is secretly working with Ponder all offseason to become a WR?

  226. By Dr. Remulak on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    I would love that, Webb has way more potential at WR than at QB.

  227. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    That would be fun if Joe did that…I think Joe is a great guy..I really do…But he is not a good QB…Not even close…

    But if it came to having Joe Webb or Harvin on this Vikings team…I would rather have Webb hands down…Even with his lack of talent…Harvin is a trouble maker…

    At least Webb is an awesome team mate…What Joe lacks in talent…He surely does not in heart !!!…

  228. By 1vikingsfan on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    pinkerton both of my messages were to the most pathetic guy in here flap jack. Sorry if it seems it was to you.

  229. By purplengold on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Percy only started 34 out of 64 games. He missed more practices than he made. He is just like Randy Moss, when he is on the field 12 people hamper his abilities, the defense and himself. He hurts the lockerroom, he isnt a great leader, so as I stated a rational look at Harvin makes him worth a second and fourth round.

  230. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1525938-whose-nfl-draft-stock-is-soaring-right-now#/articles/1525938-whose-nfl-draft-stock-is-soaring-right-now

  231. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1526590-nfl-trade-news-vikings-harvin-headache-not-going-away-anytime-soon

  232. By vikings rule on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    purplengold-shut the f*uck up

  233. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/blog/rob-rang/21693538/nfl-combine-wide-receiver-preview

  234. By vikings rule on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    your the troublemaker hopkins

  235. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1527169-percy-harvin-nightmare-landing-spots-for-vikings-star-wr

  236. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Spencer, are we getting our news from channel 6 now: The Parkway Channel?

  237. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Now reporting, we have discovered that man’s best friend has actually been secretly deployed as undercover agents for the former Soviet Union. Yes, Putin may be watching you through a tiny camera hidden in your dog’s collar. Parkway News reporting.

  238. By vikingmike on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    The Niner’s should sign Moss to a big contract and then trade him to us for Harvin. That sounds like something we’d get duped into.

  239. By purplengold on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    @vikesrule, shut up stoopid, get a lyfe, you little shallow person

  240. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    purplengold- starting in games and actually playing in them are two different things. He started 34 games out of 60, are you implying that he missed the other 26 games? If he hurt the locker room then this team would have fallen apart and we would have missed the playoffs. You can actually make a case that everyone upped their play as a result of what Percy did. And as for the practices, How many practices did AD miss. I had him on one of my fantasy teams and it seems like everyday the news on him was that he sat out of practice so are we to think AD is a bad leader because he did not practice everyday?

  241. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    KEEP PERCY

  242. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1436951-br-nfl-1000-top-65-quarterbacks/page/8

    #59 Joe Webb
    #48 Ponder

    Ponder at 48 means there are a bunch of backup QBs that are better than our starting QB LOL.

  243. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Support Ponder– if not, find another team!

  244. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Those arent my rankings Titus.

  245. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Yeah, but don’t post them– you may traumatize number seven.

  246. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    You know if it were my ranking I would put Ponder at #1, where he deserves to be.

  247. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 12, 2013 | Reply

    Number 7 in your programs and number 1 in our hearts!

  248. By 1vikingsfan on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    sounds like granddaddypurp and his bun ghole buddy titus are at it again, shut the f-up1

  249. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    No

  250. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Now that you got that out of the way is there anything constructive you can actually add to the conversation?

  251. By Frederick Jones on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    @GrandDaddyPurp,

    Hey that is a cool article. Anytime someone will put into print what they think about current players, and actually rank them is great.

    I don’t agree with all of Matt Miller’s statements, but it might be a neat way to get some idea of what other QBs can do.

    Thank you,

    Frederick Von Jones

  252. By Frederick Jones on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    @GrandDaddyPurp,

    Now I know Matt Miller wrote the ratings, not you. But Colt McCoy #28 ! ! !

    Shawn Hill is better than both current Viking QBs and their Matt Stafford is only ranked #19. Wow…

    It just goes to show you that you can only judge a quarterback by how much support he gets from his team.

  253. By Frederick Jones on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Colt McCoy #28…I thought he was out of the NFL last year!

  254. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Fred McCoy is not that bad, of course my Texas bias makes me believe so. I would have Ponder a little higher but I cant really argue Matt Miller’s ranking of him.

  255. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    I just love how the analysts are predicting the Vikings to fall again next season…Because there a crazy…

    When the Vikings trade Harvin (not if)…And add 2 more WR’s to the team like Hopkins and Patton…Ponder is going to light it up next season !!!…And I think Childs comes back also…(Just a gut feeling there)…

    This coming season Flacco is getting some much attention…And will likely get the franchise tag put on him…Or a big contract…

    PREDICTION for this coming season….

    Ponder has a better season than Flacco this fall…I predict Ponder is a top 12 QB this coming fall…If Spielman gets him the WR’s he needs to succeed…

    Last year the Vikings made a total commitment to making the secondary better…If that same commitment is made to making the WR core better this springs draft…The Vikings passing game will be MUCH better to complement AP…

  256. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Wow..I should have proof read that…sorry…But hope you get the idea ??… :-(

  257. By 1vikingsfan on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Yes, Granddaddypurp. I would like to add that both you and Fred Mccoy are to fat. hows that?

  258. By 1vikingsfan on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    WR Hopping mad 2013. Tell me where is Harvin going? I hope you say to the bears. that would really pi$$ the grear titus no end. then he will be p’d at you.

  259. By WRHopkins2013 on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    My best guess for Harvin to end up right now is…..Miami…

    Miami has cap space and draft picks to land Harvin…And a huge need at WR…

    Close second and third spots…Jags and Pats…

    I still think Tebow ends up in Jacksonville “some how”…And Harvin would sell tickets in Jacksonville…With those two on the roster together…There would be “hype” generated with those two coming back home…And that sells season tickets…In empty stadiums…

    Pats…That would be the perfect storm for the Hoody…Having a talent like Harvin on his team…But can he control Harvin ???…He might be one of the few head coaches that can…But is he willing to finally sh ell out the draft picks to make the trade…Or the money to pay Harvin ???…I have to see that…To believe it ???…

  260. By vikings rule on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    hopkins, why don’t we ship your f at a ss to miami

  261. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    1vikingsfan & vikings rule its people like you that gives TRUE Vikings fans a bad name. Enough with all that.

  262. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    OTK in terms of statistics Ponder will never be a top 12 QB. We would be lucky if he made top 20. It doesnt matter who our receivers are. You can have all the deep threats you want I wont matter unless you have an arm like Flacco. Ponder, like Harvin, has also had a history of injuries. His arm strength/throwing power is already questionable when healthy. If there is any minor injury that, at the least, somewhat messes up his throwing mechanics he becomes a BIG liability for us.

  263. By 1vikingsfan on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Granddaddy of them all. there is a new blog up. why not tell everybody how smart you are.

  264. By 1vikingsfan on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Haha imposter alert. Just stop making yourself look stupid. Hey to all im not going to post anything for the rest of the day probably its the idiot. He is taking my name

  265. By Carl K on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Rumor has it the 49er have a strong interest in Harvin.
    They have 14 picks in the draft and Alex Smith to wheel and deal with. A block buster deal with multiple teams involved could be in the works.
    The 49ers are my front runners to win a bidding war for Harvin.
    Yes, I see a bidding war brewing… Harvin is a special player!

  266. By northwoodsv2 on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    “I also think the Vikings are willing to not get as much in return for him because they played better without him.”

    ______________________________________________________

    Did they? Or did they mature as a team generally does through the season, and would have played even better WITH him??

  267. By northwoodsv2 on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    “Although Harvin is a good WR, he is no Vincent Jackon or a Randy Moss. ”

    _____________________________________________________

    Comparing Harvin to Moss is an insult to Harvin. Moss can’t run, can’t jump, and can barely catch anymore, and folds like a wet paper towel when he hears footsteps.

    Harvin is no Randy Moss, that’s true. He’s MUCH better.

  268. By northwoodsv2 on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    “Looking at Percy Harvin rationally.
    Pros: under 30, great hands, great speed, great quickness”

    I’d also mention versatile and dangerous (in the good sense)

    “Cons: Migranes first few years”

    Problem solved, moot point now.

    “fought with two head coaches PUBLICLY”

    Fought? Watch the tape again where he vents frustration to Frazier, as he walks by. I’ve had more heated arguments with my 3 year old son about bedtime.

    “only finished one season of 16 games”

    So? That’s why you have depth. All positions are at risk of injury, and the harder you play, the more likely to get injured. Smith plays the same, so does AP, and both missed gametime – should we get rid of those risks, too? Harvin’s pro’s far outweigh this con.

    “spent end of last year with ankle injury which still has to pass physical”

    Wow, you are out of the loop. http://www.yardbarker.com/all_sports/articles/report_vikings_harvin_has_passed_physical/12844270

    “very expensive”

    MVP talent doesn’t come cheap.

  269. By purplengold on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Yeah, Harvin hS great potential, but look deeper how many of his teammates have run to his side. When I said publicly I meant through the press and, in the lockerroom. Ponder cant lead and frazier cant get everyone to buy into his system as long as Harvin is there. The vikes are a young team with young leaders, let percy go to a team that has leadets to quell his antics. I just hope Green Bay doesnt get him.They made the playoffs, think of how much further they may have gone with a healthy and happy number 1 wr. We may find out in 2013

  270. By northwoodsv2 on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    Frazier wouldn’t have a problem with the team buying into his system if he had a QB who could make throws beyond the line of scrimmage. Not everyone can take a bubblescreen 20-30 yards downfield consistently like Harvin. After the first 8-10 of them in the game, opponents KNEW it was coming, and he still had success with it.

  271. By vikefan on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    were not tradin him

  272. By vikefan on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000138844/article/minnesota-vikings-source-we-should-keep-percy-harvin

  273. By d on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    I say keep harvin but if we dont we better get the kid out tennesse patterson point blank

  274. By purplengold on Feb 13, 2013 | Reply

    I agree about ponder, especially after seeing Flaco tjrowing across field and 50 yards downfield off of his front foot. It shows ponders weak arm. He neefs a syrength and conditioning qb coach exclusively for him because like it or not hes ours for 2013. Im more optimistic about ponder than harvin. If things go well maybe we will trade up for patterson if he slips and we have extra picks trading harvin but hopkins is pretty good, austin is kinda small. Williams is a good 2nd round if we go for best player in first round and you dont lose much with him.

  275. By banlarson on Feb 14, 2013 | Reply

    The ONLY reason the OL improved in 2012 was solely due to Kalil. We have 1 blue chip lineman and he made the entire left side solid, even with Johnson’s below avg play. Vikes need to go get a real quality OG in the 2nd or 3rd rounds and watch Adrian get 2500.

  276. By HomeBrewer on Feb 14, 2013 | Reply

    While Kalil did a tremendous job anchoring Ponder’s blind side, Loadholt often was guilty of causing Ponder to flush the pocket way too soon. Can’t blame Ponder when he see Loadholt missed his block again. Can’t blame Ponder when Loadholt gets another holding penalty because he was too darned lazy to move his feet. He reminds me of Bryant M. during Favre’s last year as a Viking. Brett got killed by Bryant’s laziness. I say use Loadholt as bait for some upper round draft choices. Either that or let him hit the free agency market as I doubt other clubs will want to sign him for top money. Maybe that will be the wakeup call Loadholt needs. JMHO. cheers!!

  277. By purplengold on Feb 14, 2013 | Reply

    @HomeBtewer You are soooo right Loadholt was not good at times, his penalties killed us. He has great potential and I think thats what frazier and company see. Hes too young and too talented to trade this year but if he doesnnt get disciplined this year he should be shipped out.

  278. By VikingVanadalizer on Feb 15, 2013 | Reply

    As a patriot fan, hearing harvin come over makes me happy as i think he has talent that can only be attained with the best coach in the nfl coaching him. I also am a vikings fan and believe that the vikes getting rid of him is about as dumb as signing brad childress to an extension then releasing him the next year. Vikes gotta make an impact this year. With Harvin we are strong, without harvin, we are still strong but he is a valuable target. he has had his moments but all in all there is no denying this man is a great player.

  279. By snook on Feb 15, 2013 | Reply

    how much 4 the vikes under the salary cap

  280. By Eric on Feb 16, 2013 | Reply

    I personally think Phil Loadholt is a bust. He has done some decent run blocking at times but I have also seen him miss run blocks ( ie. back side blocks). Speed rushers beat him on the outside too often. He has had drive killing penalties too often.

    In an effort to yield to the goal of continuity in the offensive line the Vikings can keep him only if Loadholt gets into shape and they move him to right guard where I think he is better suited. He started out as a guard out of college if I am not misstaken.

    Go Vikings!

  281. By Nordeast on Feb 17, 2013 | Reply

    Loadholt will stay, he’s improved a ton in the last few years. People are still giving him a hard time for mistakes they noted in years past that he has mostly overcome. I thought our o-line in general moved in a positive direction this last year, but we still need someone better than Fusco and/or Johnson in the long run. I’m with Fred Jones on this one! Go get some talented guards Spielman!!! I’m also not really a Ponder fan or a Bill Musgrave fan as our OC, but I kind of doubt either of them are leaving unless there is a major meltdown this upcoming year. Like messing things up with Harvin or not getting any big WR help in the off-season.

  282. By Nordeast on Feb 17, 2013 | Reply

    Oh the ignorance of some on here… “Kalil is the only blue chip player on the o-line” Sullivan is a great center and has been for a few years. There’s a reason why they were okay letting old man Matt Birk walk.

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