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Frazier Speaks To Greenway’s Leadership, Griffen’s Growth

Posted by Mike Wobschall on December 20, 2012 – 7:18 am

Often times there’s nothing notable about a NFL head coach speaking in glowing terms about his players. Coaches spend countless hours mentoring, teaching and guiding their players to put them in a position to succeed both on the field and away from it, so you can’t blame them for having a positive viewpoint of their players when evaluating their performance.

While meeting with reporters on Wednesday, Vikings Head Coach Leslie Frazier spent several moments talking about a pair of his defensive players – LB Chad Greenway and DE Everson Griffen. Both are timely topics because Greenway is having perhaps his best season as a pro and Griffen is coming off a game in which he replaced an injured Brian Robison at left DE and made a huge play while doing so – a 29-yard INT returned for a TD in the 2nd quarter to break the game wide open.

That Frazier flattered both Greenway and Griffen while speaking about them on Wednesday is not surprising. But in complimenting those two individuals, Frazier did provide an interesting glimpse into how he and, presumably many within the organization’s leadership structure, had previously viewed each individual.

Let’s take a look at what Frazier was asked about each player, what may have led to that question being asked, and then what Frazier said in response…

Greenway
The question: “What stood out to you as you watched Chad Greenway on Sunday?”

The context: Greenway leads the NFL in tackles with 140, and has led the Vikings in tackles in 8 of the team’s 14 games. He did so once again last week in St. Louis with a game-high 14 stops, and he also registered a sack of QB Sam Bradford and a fumble recovery as well. In addition to performing well on the field, Greenway has taken a step forward in the leadership department during his 7th season.

Frazier: “I still go back to how much he’s grown as a leader. I felt like he would get better as a player over time, but what he’s brought to our defense and to our team from a leadership standpoint has really helped us to grow up over the course of the season. That has been big for me and the rest of the staff and our players. The football part, we thought he was going to be a good football player, that’s one of the reasons we franchised him a few years ago. But what he’s provided in the locker room as well as on the sidelines has really helped our team.”

Griffen
The question: “How have you seen Everson Griffen develop from a maturity standpoint since he’s come here?”

The context: The Vikings selected Griffen out of USC with a 4th-round pick (#100 overall) in the 2010 NFL Draft. I remember in the build-up to that draft, Griffen was considered by many to be a potential late 1st-round prospect, but definitely a 2nd-round prospect. But some also had concerns about him from a maturity standpoint, and that’s why his stock dropped a touch. I also remember Vikings Director of College Scouting Scott Studwell being interviewed after the Vikings selected Griffen, and he explained that Griffen had too much talent for the Vikings to pass on him in the 4th round, even despite the concerns some had about him. The Vikings deserve credit for including within their organizational structure a process that helps players mature once they enter the NFL. Having this in place allows the Vikings to consider selecting or signing “at-risk” players who some teams may shy away from because of those maturity concerns despite their immense talent. Griffen is a great example of this.

Frazier: “He’s come so far. I’ve talked to him about it often. Just seeing the maturation, even through this last offseason, being able to manage his free time, understanding what it means to be a pro and act like a pro, both at practice and in games as well, and off the field. He’s one of those guys, as we speak, that has really bought in to the right way of doing things. There are other guys you can talk to about, ‘Hey, this is how it has to be.’ And they’re going to do it their way, but he’s one of those guys who’s paid attention, he’s listened and, we always knew he was a good athlete, but just being able to manage some of the other things that were happening in his life. He’s a great example for a lot of young players that come into our League. He’s really grown up. The tragedy he faced this season, losing his mother, that was hard. But the way he responded, even in the midst of that tragedy, you have to take your hat off to him at how courageous he is. I told him I know his mother would be extremely proud of him and the way he’s handled himself. He’s come a long ways.”


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356 Responses to “Frazier Speaks To Greenway’s Leadership, Griffen’s Growth”

  1. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Hoping for a good game this Sunday…This TEAM keeps on surprising me !!

    Who might step up and make the big play this week ???…My bet is Cook…I think Cook has been” chomping at the bit” to get out there these last several weeks and help his team out !!…

    Shut down A Johnson, Cook…And this Vikings team has a chance…

    I have been preaching the secondary will be aggressive, and help the team out “big time” at the end of the season…Hope it happens…I think we can contain Foster…But can we get enough pressure on Schuab with our front four on defense ???

    MAN I HATE THE VIKINGS….PLAYING ON GRASS FIELDS !!!…

    GO VIKINGS !!!…

  2. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    “The Vikings deserve credit for including within their organizational structure a process that helps players mature once they enter the NFL. Having this in place allows the Vikings to consider selecting or signing “at-risk” players who some teams may shy away from because of those maturity concerns despite their immense talent. Griffen is a great example of this.”

    Percy is another example.

  3. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Harvin,Allen,Gerhart,Griffen, and Cook…Are some of the big names on the Vikings, finishing up their contracts next season…

    Who will the Vikings sign to extensions, who will just finish out their contracts, and who will be traded, because they can not afford everyone ???..

    And if they trade any of there players…They (most likely) will be moved this off season…At least the players coming off of rookie contracts…

    Things could be very interesting this off season…

    Good news ???…Its not the off season yet !!!

    GO VIKINGS !!!!…

  4. By MuskyFever on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    @ GDP… Simpson is yet another example of that

  5. By Gilberator on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    OTK when I look at that list of players, I can’t even think about letting any of them go. Allen is wonderful to have on the roster. Griffen needs to stay here. Hes a young force to be reckoned with. I wasn’t a fan of cook until this season with the assault charge and his lack of production. He has shown great progress this season. Gerhart is a good back that doesn’t get enough carries so maybe he can go somewhere else and start, although I would be sad. :( Harvin is one of the best athletes in the league but idk if we can afford him and another great WR. I wish we still had Rice.

  6. By 1vikingsfan on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I am starting to like Frazier allot but we still need s new OC next year. Norv turner???

  7. By Gilberator on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    1vikesfan- Agreed Frazier deserves to stay. Musgrave im still on the fence with. If we can keep winning, who knows. Maybe musk needed some time to gel with his offense; much like the offense needs to gel in itself. Maybe he will work out but I havent seen enough that tells me we dont need coaching changes.

  8. By 1vikingsfan on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Yea true we also need a WR so you can’t blame all on the OC but he should take advantage that he has the best RB like play action. I won’t get mad if he is here next year because the running game is fantastic so its just the passing game. I also see gerhart leaving can we trade him??? Maybe we can get a 4 or 5 round pick for him^.^

  9. By 1vikingsfan on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    How many years did Vikings sign Jerome? I think he is coming back next year and we getting really really good WR. Like mike Wallace and Greg Jennings. I hope Vikings give it a try. But i really want norv turner in the OC for vikings

  10. By MuskyFever on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    We only signed Simpson to a 1 year deal.

    Neither Jennings nor Wallace will come play here… IMO

    Both will get offers from their own team and stay there. Wallace is one of the fastest guys in the league, Rothlesberger wont want to give that up. and Jennings… well hes a Fudge Packer, I don’t think he would want to bleed purple

  11. By northwoodsv2 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I thought Simpson was a 1-year deal.

  12. By northwoodsv2 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Jennings is surplus in Fudgeland. They won’t keep him.

    Not sure he ‘wouldn’t’ come here, but doubt we can dangle a big enough carrot.

  13. By MuskyFever on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    @ Northwoodsv2

    WE defeintely wont be able to dangle any carrot at all if we pay Harvin… Which we are bound to do… I hope

  14. By MuskyFever on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I say build the WR corp through the draft. Forget FA’s I am sick of banking my teams success on other teams WR’s. Lets draft a few guys in first and 3rd rounds.

    I’m sure Childs would have been a great WR this year. Unfortenatly for him he got injured and unfortenatly for us, he is not AP. Not sure if this injury will effect him negetively or not. But I hate to put all of my WR eggs into an injured basket. Catch my drift?? He may not be what he was expected to be, probably wont be in fact. Most players can’t recover from this injury and come back to have as much or more success then before they got hurt… CLEARLY AP is the exception to the rule.

    Get rid of Jenkins and Burton. and maybe shudu also. draft 2 WRs this season. Sign Harvin and bring Summers up from the practice squad. That will give us Harvin, Simpson (if they resign him) Wright, Childs, Summers and the two draftees. OK, maybe for a competition stand point keep shudu. But get rid of the rest of the clowns. I am on the fence about Shudu… Some games hes there and others not. I can’t make a full decison on there, ahsn’t really shown anything one way or the other

  15. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I’d like to see Rogers or Patterson in the 2nd, though it sounds like Patterson might get up into the first.

  16. By Argos Geminus Sparticus Esperanza on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    To beat Houston you need a QB and recievers. That criminal Adrian Peterson can’t do it all. Enjoy watching the “Fudge Packers” win another Superbowl. Hopefully you Viking fans have a stroke screaming at the t.v. like a bunch of inbred cavemen.

  17. By Gilberator on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Muskyfever- I believe shudu could be a good #3 or #2. He needs a good #1 wr on the field along side him to perform at the top level. I personally like him over Jenkins and Burton, although Jenkins has got some key 3rd downs these past few games. Hes too slow. I hope Childs comes back strong somehow. I also agree with your statement about FA but I’d rather have Bowe on this team than Harvin. Bowe needs a better team, we need a better WR. Other than that go for the draft. I haven’t seen any real golden opportunities for this years draft as far as WR goes though. No to Wallace and no to Jennings. They are both great receivers but they are old. Im tired of the old pickups. Lets keep going with these young bloods.

  18. By The 1 And Only PurplHaze! on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Greenway is consistently a top performer on Defense year in and year out. He leads by example!

    That experiment with Griffin at LB was a flop, but it’s OK. He proved his value last week when Robison (who in his own right has had an excellent year) went down. It’s like we gained an edge on Defense, because the Rams Offense wasn’t prepared for Everson. What a valuable guy to have coming off the bench for your team.

    SKOL VIKINGS!!!

  19. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I’d rather keep Jenkins than shadu, he at least comes up big on 3rd and longs

  20. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I am sure…Allen and the Vikings are good to go…For Allen to just play out the final year of his contract…Allen will still be getting paid a lot of money…

    Maybe before the trade deadline comes up next season…If the Vikings have plenty of depth at DE, they may move Allen at that time…Or maybe the season isn’t going very well…And Allen might want a trade to a super bowl contender…
    If only for the rest or the 2013 season…And finally get that Superbowl ring he wants so badly…

    The rest of the players have WAY more value trading this off season…Than waiting until after next season, and allowing them to reach there free agent status..Then franchising them…TFor the sole purpose to trade them…

    I think Gerhart has been awesome…Not one complaint sitting on the sideline this season…And just watching AP run wild…

    But I do believe Gerhart…As great as he has been about not complaining…Will ask to be traded “behind closed doors” after this season…So he can be a “featured back” in another teams offense…He is a very good RB…

    But when it comes to Harvin,Cook, and Griffen ???…

    Griffen, has shown maturity…And gained plenty of experience playing “part time”…And should not cost the Vikings a ton of money to retain…I think the Vikings extend Griffen a contract…IF he stays out of trouble…

    Cook, easy just to say…DITTO… to Griffen’s evaluation…hahaha

    Now Harvin ???…Harvins cost to extend him, will be huge…Harvin has not stayed out of trouble this season…And while players do get injured…And is part of the game…Harvin is missing time again to injury…

    Will Spielman and Zygi take a huge risk…Signing Harvin to a huge contract ???..

    When Percy can’t stay out of trouble…BEFORE getting paid ???…

    And if they decide Harvin is too big a risk…Spielman could ???…

    This off season Spielman could cash in big with obtaining draft picks…Trading Harvin also…Instead of taking the risk involved paying out a huge contract to Harvin…

    Harvin is a TOP TALENT at WR…No denying that fact…But he is TROUBLE also…No denying that…

    With weighing all the “pros & cons”…What would you do fellow bloggers ???

    If you were” Spielman & Wilf” ???….And not just a fan…

    Thoughts ????…

  21. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    i wonder why they don’t talk about Ponders growth, LOL

  22. By MuskyFever on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I personally disagree with you Gilberator, I will take Harvin over ANY other WR in the league… Without question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Shudu is a #4 or at best IMHO. Harvin is a slot and #2 guy. Simpson is faster and should take the #3 spot and we need a big tall #1 stretch the field, go get the ball kind of a player.

    Jenkins is slow but can catch. Burton is fast but can’t… get rid of both

  23. By liito on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Chad Greenway, superstar. Everson Griffen, upcoming star. This team may still surprise despite a one dimensional offense. I hope opponents will have a hard time to figure out how to stop AP. Go Vikings!

  24. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    We are one big physical WR away from having a solid WR core. Harvin is obviously incredible, Wright has shown he will be a good WR, then we just need a big guy who can go up and get it and fill in the 4-5 spots which we never use anyway with Rudolph and Carlson on the squad.

    It would be nice if we could finally find a “diamond in the rough” kinda player in Childs, Summers, or Brown. I have little hope for Childs, blown out his knees twice, once just from jumping so I really don’t have any hope for him.

    Our QB will still make any WR we have look like scrubs unfortunately so they will be hard to evaluate regardless of who we end up with next year.

  25. By The 1 And Only PurplHaze! on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I’d have a “Come To Je sus” meeting with Percy, and ask him just how sincere he was about being a Viking in the forthcoming season. If he convinced me that he’s 100% sincere, I’d sign him. Then and ONLY then!

    Otherwise, I’d trade him for a Kings Ransom!!!

  26. By The 1 And Only PurplHaze! on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    “Je sus” is on the list!!!

  27. By northwoodsv2 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I guess I just don’t understand the concept.

    We can’t afford to acquire a talented FA WR and be successful right now – is what is being said by many.

    Therefore, we need to “develop” one through the draft, which takes a few years – is what is being said by many

    BUT…..after he develops into a talented WR, he’s going to demand talented WR pay (see P. Harvin), which we couldn’t afford to spend on a FA, so we lose the talent to another team that CAN afford him.

    ???????

  28. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Good point northwoods, its because everyone thinks or hopes any WR we draft will come out like Harvin or AJ Green did and just perform amazing on the field right away which rarely ever happens with WR. Look at how much the Falcons gave up for Julio Jones and he is just starting to be a good WR this year in his 3rd year.

  29. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    If Spielman can get a high number one draft pick for Harvin…Or most likely more ???…

    And then grab Manti Te’o with that pick…And get another WR in the first round with our original first round pick…

    All I can say is….

    Bye bye…Petulant percy…imo..

  30. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Paying Harvin is not the issue….

    Its taking on the risk of his emotional baggage that comes with him…

    That is a big deal…

    Harvin has NEVER gotten along with his head coaches..
    And has had 3, including his colledge years…

    Once you pay a diva…it only gets worse…
    History has proved that, over and over…

    T Owens, C Johnson, etc…

  31. By Mike B. on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    We could have definately could have brought in a FA WR and we did with Simpson, but they felt the WR core we had was good enough to work within Fraziers game plans. How many deep threat WR do you need when your game plan is to Run first and high percentage short p@sses. That’s the New Vikings Football. It’s successful in other places, so it should work here. Assuming your WR can get open and your QB has the time to throw.

  32. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    The only trade I would accept for Harvin is Mallet, Lloyd, and a first round from NE so then Harvin would be on my 2nd favorite team and we would get a real QB, a serviceable WR and another 1st round pick.

  33. By Mike B. on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    And add we could have gone after those high maintenance WR (TO, Chad Johnson, ect) and had some real success, but Frazier doesn’t want that kind of distraction on the team. He wants team players win or lose and not a bunch of individuals.

  34. By Gilberator on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway-Jones is in his second year isnt he? Wasn’t Jones in the same draft as AJ Green?

    Musky- Harvin is a wonderful receiver but Wright can fill his position. Maybe not as well, at least, not right now but we need a deep threat more than a speedy all star slot receiver. Like OTkalil said, hes too much of a hassle. He doesn’t want to be a Viking anymore. Lets get somebody that wants to be here. Attitude is just as important as skill.

  35. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    The Bengals had a chance to get 2 number one draft picks for Ocho from a team…But instead signed him to a HUGE contract…Thinking he would change ???…He didn’t…It only got worse…

    If the Bengals could go back in time…Do you think they would have turned down those 2 number one draft picks for Ocho ???…

  36. By Mike B. on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Fans still bashing Ponder well what did I say weeks ago. Ponder is and continues to be the starting QB and I think will be the QB to beat next season assuming there is a competition at all. GMs and Coaches determine rosters not Fans. Ponder is not losing games on his own, so they are sticking with him. I think the rest of you need to look at it that way. The losses we have had a lot more to do with team execution than Ponder’s play.

  37. By Gilberator on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    If I were Ricky I would trade Harvin for better draft picks.

    __________________________________________

    If Spielman can get a high number one draft pick for Harvin…Or most likely more ???…

    And then grab Manti Te’o with that pick…And get another WR in the first round with our original first round pick…

    All I can say is….

    Bye bye…Petulant percy…imo..
    ________________________________
    ^ OTK I agree with this statement 110%. If we could get Manti Te’o I would cry haha

  38. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Yup Julio in his 2nd year my bad.

    And comparing Chad Johnson to Harvin is hilarious btw.

  39. By Mike B. on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    No way any team gives us a 1st Round Pick for Harvin. Short Slot WR nope no way.

  40. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Look at this, this is disgusting. Tom brady needs to be traded he yelled at his coach!!!

  41. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    MIke do you try to come up with the dumbest thing you could possibly say then say it?

    That’s the only logic I can see behind most of your statements.

  42. By Mike B. on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway that’s not the Head Coach and Brady has earned the right to do that. Harvin has not.

  43. By Mike B. on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    How’s that screaming bench him working out for you there Parkway :)

  44. By Gilberator on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    OTKalil- No way would the Bengals give him that contract if they had the hindsight. Miami wasn’t having any of it either. I would take players with good attitude over immediate top level playing ability. With good attitude comes the willingness to learn and become better. Peterson is amazing and what makes him even better is his attitude. Our team in general are a bunch of good guys. We don’t play dirty and we don’t lash out against our coaches. Harvin doesn’t fit in this equation. Hes great, I cant stress that enough, but let him go somewhere else. He doesn’t seem to want to play here. Let him go.

  45. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    You have an indefinite reference in that sentence so it’s impossible to grasp what you are talking about

  46. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    OTK do you see Brady yelling at his coach!!!! OMG they should get rid of him, he doesn’t fit on that team at all. He must be terrible, get rid of him now!!!!

  47. By Gilberator on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    There’s no way Harvin is anywhere NEAR Johnson and Owens as far as attitude issues go. But it just comes down to the fact I would rather look elsewhere for a guy that WANTS to put on the purple.

  48. By Gilberator on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway- You like the pats. Yuck. Haha im from new england so thats all I see. I hate the patriot fans. They su c k. Like who you want just wanted to share =P

  49. By Argos Geminus Sparticus Esperanza on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Percy Harvin is garbage. Really?! You compare trash like Harvin to Tom Brady. Really?! Viking fans are the definition of pretentious. Go watch the Hockey you inbreds. Oh wait you can’t. Go watch your brother roll off your sister. That’s what people in Minnesota do. That or goats.

  50. By Mike B. on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    When you all started to say Bench Ponder and that he was no good. I said it’s not going to happen. There is more than a single player’s mistakes that has contributed to the loses we have had. I have said all along that they will stick with Ponder through the season. I think that Ponder will be the person to beat next year for the starting QB. The GM and Coaches determine the Roster not the Fans. I think you Ponder haters need to realize that you can’t get rid of Ponder by blogging here. He is still taking the snaps on the field. From all the things I have read the Coaches/GM/Owner are all behind him. Ponder to this point is the Vikings QB of the future. Understand now.

  51. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Well you need to understand that backing Ponder doesn’t make him not terrible. He will be a distant memory in a few years. If the coaches and management want to waste years of the fans and the other 52 players on the roster’s lives than that is their prerogative, but I know football and Ponder isn’t it. You have proved that you have 0 football IQ so I think we could all take my word for it over yours.

  52. By Mike B. on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Brady has how many Superbowls and has been the starting QB in NE for how long. He has earned the right to yell at the OC. Harvin hasn’t earned that right IMO.

  53. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    So there is a “right” to yell at a coach? Seemed like everyone was just saying that that kind of player wouldn’t be tolerated? I didn’t see any asterisks next to that statement. Or you guys just kinda make sh!t up as you go huh?

    Not working out so well.

  54. By Spencer on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Harvin has earned the right..

  55. By Gilberator on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway- Ponder isnt that bad man. You probably would have said the same thing for Brees’ first 3 years if he was on the Vikes. Then we trade him to Saints and he wins a super bowl. Ponder could come back this season like Aaron Rogers or he can come back looking like Brady Quinn. You don’t know for sure. We need people he can throw to confidently. Ponder will surely progress quicker.

  56. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    He doesn’t have the arm strength to be an elite QB. At most he could come back looking like Alex Smith

  57. By Mike B. on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    That’s assuming you know anything about football and what it takes to make a team I am thinking it’s about what you are saying about me. And with all of your blogging and complaining has anything happened other than what I have been saying all along ? That said you can continue to complain to get the same result or actually listen and see what the Vikings organization is trying to do. I am always cheering for the Vikings and have been since their first Superbowl.

  58. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I agree– I am not a fan of a player yelling at the coach, but please, if you are going to take that stand, do not turn around and say certain players earned a right to yell at the coach. Ludicrous. Let’s just say that a player of Brady’s caliber and contribution will be allowed a rare blow-up– but a player two years removed from being a rookie– screaming about a new quarterback under development with a team in rebuilding mode is not healthy. Brady is on a consistently proven team– not saying he has a right, but contextually it is a tad different situation– he is the leader of the team as quarterback as well– and has a long career.

  59. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B.

    I think what Parkway is trying to say…To understand “it” like Parkway…

    You have to be “full of it”.. ;-)

    If you know what mean ???…

  60. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Just be glad that none of us are Spielman..otherwise the only player coming back next year, for sure…

    Would be AP… :-)

  61. By Mike B. on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    :) I do OTK and Titus thanks.

  62. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    What your saying is really obvious though. Here I’ll predict we run AP this week, then come on the blog next week and say TOLD YOU SO!!!!!

    What they should do and what they are going to do are clearly two different things. They also should have trade Toby before the deadline to get another pick since they probably would have been able to receive more back from him to a team that really needed a running game for the playoffs vs this offseason, if they actually do it, when all of the teams have multiple options for obtaining a RB.

    Being a homer isn’t objective and Mike and OTK are the biggest homers on this board.

  63. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B. maybe I was not clear– I was saying your statement that Brady has a right to yell because he earned it is not a sound argument. I don’t believe Harvin displays the right attitude– but what do any of us really know?

    Ah– hold on– I figured out the confusion– several posts popped up as I was typing my “I agree…” I was responding to Parkway:

    By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply
    So there is a “right” to yell at a coach? Seemed like everyone was just saying that that kind of player wouldn’t be tolerated? I didn’t see any asterisks next to that statement. Or you guys just kinda make sh!t up as you go huh?
    Not working out so well.

  64. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Yeah I wasn’t sure what he was thanking you for other than proving my point. I mean I’ll take it though.

  65. By Mike B. on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I think Titus explained that Brady has earned more of right to blow off in a better manner than I did. I also don’t agree with yelling at a coach. Harvin definately has no place to come off at the coach.

    In your opinion you think the team should do something different. I and other don’t agree with you and think what the Vikings Org is doing is spot on. The fact that you continue to blog to only get the same results is kind fo frustrating isn’t it. I don’t mind being a Homer The Vikings are my team.

  66. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Well, Parkway, I thought maybe he was thanking me for coming to the rescue and making it a reasonable debate by pointing to contextual differences rather than changing the main premise.

  67. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Ah— see– I was typing while Mike B responded– I assumed. My bad.

  68. By MuskyFever on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    So I was reading some information on my NFL app on my android. I found that Harvin was placed on IR not because of the ankle injury, but because he needed an apendectomy. Had surgery on it last week. That is why he was on IR… just to clear some stuff up.

    Also ready that the WR corp is going to look pretty different next season. we could possibly be without… Jenkins, Aromashodu, Simpson and Harvin. All of those four are somewhat on the chopping block. If any of the three are going to come back I bet that it is Harvin. They were also talking about taking a shot at Fitz.. I thought he would be to spendy.. but not if we trade Harvin. said earlier that I would take Harvin over any WR out there right now… but I retract that. I would take Fitz over Harvin… But he is the only one. Fitzis done with ARI. He is a MN native and has always been a vikings fan. it may be difficult to pry him away from ARI. or any other team for that matter. But if we don’t at least try… We might very well be idiots

  69. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Mike– Parkway is a little out there, but he seems fairly intelligent, so you need to have your game face on. Did I mention Ponder has a breakout game on Sunday?

  70. By Viks8&8 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway your arguments aren’t relevant. When is the last time a trade was made durring the season that worked out. It just doesn’t happen. These players have to study to memorize plays and work all year to get their timing down. Its not just as easy as saying hey we aren’t using Toby this year so we are gonna get a draft pick for him.

    There is a reason GM’s get paid so much, there is work behind the seens and actual football knowledge that is necesary to do the Job, so please stop with your random ideas. Its the NFL not fantasy football.

  71. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    *scenes. I think Toby could figure out how to run draw plays on other teams and find a team that had a similar system that he could pick up on quite easily

    And that was out a couple days ago Musky about the appendectomy

  72. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Aqib Talib seems to be doing pretty dang well on the Pats btw if we are talking about midseason trades that worked out well.

  73. By MuskyFever on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    As far as the fan base goes… the NFL is fantasy football!!!!!!!

    We don’t get paid to make team decisions but all of us are more than willing to offer our opinions for free ;-). Isin’t it great to be an American?!!!

  74. By MuskyFever on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    @ PARKWAY…

    I just read about it today.. so it was news to me. I didn’t see any postings about it so I thought I would share with the class

  75. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    By MuskyFever on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    So I was reading some information on my NFL app on my android. I found that Harvin was placed on IR not because of the ankle injury, but because he needed an apendectomy. Had surgery on it last week. That is why he was on IR… just to clear some stuff up.

    Also ready that the WR corp is going to look pretty different next season. we could possibly be without… Jenkins, Aromashodu, Simpson and Harvin. All of those four are somewhat on the chopping block. If any of the three are going to come back I bet that it is Harvin. They were also talking about taking a shot at Fitz.. I thought he would be to spendy.. but not if we trade Harvin. said earlier that I would take Harvin over any WR out there right now… but I retract that. I would take Fitz over Harvin… But he is the only one. Fitzis done with ARI. He is a MN native and has always been a vikings fan. it may be difficult to pry him away from ARI. or any other team for that matter. But if we don’t at least try… We might very well be idiots

    _________________________

    Fitz….TOLD YOU SO !!!…hahahaha…

    As Parkway says it… ;-)

    Don’t take my ribbing to heart Parkway…
    I am my own worst critic…I know I am “full of it” also…

    But I can laugh about “it”….hahaha

  76. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I would do Harvin for Fitz but I don’t see him just leaving after he signed a big big contract just a year ago with AZ.

  77. By MuskyFever on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    @ OTK… yea yea yea… I know we had this conversation a week or so ago. I still think he is going to need BIG wide out money that we may not have for him. Or He may get a bigger offer from a team that is in better contention than us.

    But yes, I would love to see Fitz come here. Could you imagine though. Fitz, Harvin (probably can’t have both) ant AP… I guess it wouldn’t matter who the QB was… but still not Ponder

  78. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    By MuskyFever on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    @ PARKWAY…

    I just read about it today.. so it was news to me. I didn’t see any postings about it so I thought I would share with the class

    ___________

    “It” is news Musky…….The appendectomy was mondays news…

    That the “reason” Harvin went on season ending IR because of that…Instead of an ankle injury…Is fresh off the press, to me…

  79. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Fitz, has a nice sized contract…Sure…But the guaranteed portion of that contract, will have a lot of that being paid by Arizona…

    Gerhart might be a trade consideration to Aizona also…They don’t have a solid RB…

    Trade Harvin…Get Manti Te’o and Fitz….Superbowl.. Here we come…

  80. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Don’t you think that is a big reason that AZ WOULDN’T trade Fitz? The fact that they already paid out a $10 mill signing bonus plus 2 $8 mill roster bonuses last year and this year?

  81. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Spielman is not stupid !!!…

    Ponder is going to get his chance….I guarantee that !!!…

    But there is no reason, not to draft a QB 3rd or 4th round…
    Webb is not the guy…imo

  82. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Never said the Vikings wouldn’t have to deal a little…Maybe pay back some of that signing bonus money back to Arizona…

    I am not the GM….”But where there is a will…There is a way”…

  83. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Arizona is a mess !!!…

    They are most likely going to fire the head coach…There RB’s are flops…They have a terrible O-line…Even after spending 4 years trying to fix it…No decent QB….

    And the Cards owe a wonderful WR in Fitz a ton of money yet on his contract…And no way to get him the football…And Fitz knows that also…

    Fitz is RIPE for the picking !!!…

    I think he should come home…Where he belongs… ;-)

  84. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    He doesn’t have a QB here that can get him the ball either, that’s the problem.

  85. By MuskyFever on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Agreed OTK

  86. By MuskyFever on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    But Fitz can do what Moss does to his QB’s.. Just go up to them in the huddle and say “just throw it as far as you can, I will go get it for you” That is what Fitz brings to the table. Ponder may not have a strong arm or a bunch of accuracy, but even I could throw the rock up as soon as he takes off and I bet he would catch it 8 out of 10 times…. Yep it’s decided, lets go get Fitz!!!!!

  87. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Haha at least Musky is realistic about his arm strength

  88. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Fitz is a very snmart guy…He knows all this team has missing is a passing game…Especially at WR…And he knows Ponder can do fine…If he has the weapons…Childs,Wright, Fitz, and Rudolf…And some draft talent yet also ???…

    Fitz like to teach also…Has his own mini camp each spring..This Vikings young squad would be perfect for that…Even a young QB like Ponder…

    Did Harvin ever attend a Ponder mini camp, after Ponder ask him too…no…

    But thank goodness…Harvin gave it some thought…Before turning Ponder down…Yeah right…

  89. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    *smart

  90. By MuskyFever on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    @ Parkway… You and I are one the same page when it comes to Ponder… That is for sure

  91. By 1vikingsfan on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I know this is random but has Blair Walsh broke Randy moss record?

  92. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    By 1vikingsfan on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I know this is random but has Blair Walsh broke Randy moss record?

    _____________

    Walsh is the man…Yes he did…And is working on breaking more records than that…

    Whay a 6th round steal !!!…For Spielman…

    How about a punter this season Rick…If he is mute ???…That would be fine…

  93. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I have said it for years– Spielman is a drafting genius.

  94. By Champ Henson on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Walsh broke the scoring record because our QB couldn’t lead the team down the field for touchdowns…we are lucky to have Walsh.

  95. By Champ Henson on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Waiting until the fourth round to draft receivers when they are one of your biggest needs – is being a genious? I’ll have to think about that one.

  96. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Spielman is a genius, and now that the “triangle of confusion” is gone, you can expect every draft to be as incredible as 2012.

  97. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    having Ponder on the field is like playing one man short, 11 against 10

  98. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    @Champ: The draft was extremely weak for WR last year, you can’t name one WR from last year’s draft that is performing out of their mind.

    Blackmon-Little production
    Floyd-Little
    Wright-None
    Jenkins-None
    Quick-Little
    Hill-Little
    Jeffery-Little
    Broyles-Some
    Randle-Some

    So I’m glad we got Harrison Smith and Josh Robinson instead of wasting picks on any of these guys. Childs could have been a “diamond in the rough” type of player if he hadn’t blown out his knees again and Wright is looking like he could be a good WR.

  99. By Champ Henson on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    If Ponder would have been pulled when it was called for, we would likely have been playing GB for the division title 10 days from now.

  100. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Champ, you have to spell genius correctly before you can criticize one!

  101. By Champ Henson on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Parkwy….I’ll give you that….I guess this years draft is considered weak at wr also, so it might be awhile before we draft a decent one.

  102. By Champ Henson on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry TITUS, I just washed my fingers and can’t do a thing with them!!

  103. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I’d love to take Patterson in the 2nd, though he might go in the first. He’s real fast and dynamic so we could take Harvin off of doing KR and put Patterson at KR and PR. Good size too I think he is 6 3 or so. Just needs to polish his route running etc. but that’s a guy who could contribute right away.

  104. By Champ Henson on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I hope Childs can come back without legs made out of balsam wood.

  105. By Champ Henson on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Tall, strong, wr’s with good hands are the way to go, throw in some speed and you have it all……well, they have to be able to pick up the play book too.

  106. By Champ Henson on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway – Patterson in the second – who in the first in your opinion?

  107. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    There are a lot of guys I like in the first that will fill our needs.

    DT: Jenkins, Short, Williams

    ILB: Ogletree,

    WR: Hunter

    I’d be happy with any of these guys, whoever is the BPA or is still left on the board when it is time to pick. Taking Hunter would of course rule out Patterson in the 2nd (most likely), but those would be my first round guys right now I think.

  108. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    patterson would be awesome to get in the second. if we are confident he will be around, id say bpa between DT LB or anyone that falls really far

  109. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Exactly Smith, I think with us being a later pick, we would have to trade up quite a ways to get Patterson though if we really wanted him, I don’t see him falling to the end of the 2nd where we will most likely be picking somewhere in the 18-22 spot.

  110. By Champ Henson on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe Speilman will trade for more picks before the draft, that would be interesting.

  111. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    i agree i doubt hed be avail to us. I am not opposed to trading up though, like grabbing smith, well worth what we gave for the move.

  112. By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Well I wrote the President today … See if I get a response

    Dear Mr President,

    I once supported you. I am a Union member making me a Democratic voter. However your exploitation of dead kids, as if you care and your fake tears which you never shed when you kill kids in the Middle East, makes you a phony. Growing up I learned Dems are supposed to be for the people and Reps are supposed to be for the rich. You sir have been as Republican as anyone. Government handouts to Wall Street for their bonuses. While we the people lose our homes. Your HealthCare plan is Republican. A true Dem would have gotten Universal HealthCare … Of course you know you are a phony, you know what a fake human being you are Im wasting my breathe.

    Now this latest kid was on a corporate drug FANAPT yet nobody is discussing that. No just guns. Sir American politicians kill far more people than American citizens. You sir have killed more kids than any gun man in America. Do you even know the names of the kids killed by your drone strikes? Of course not because you dont care. You lack any human qualities. Again why am I trying to communicate with you, you know you are a phony.

    If you were a true leader you would lead by example. You would stop killing kids before you asked the people to stop. Leaders lead by example … So I guess you are.

    Shawn

  113. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Excellent Shawn, my sentiments exactly. I kept posting the link to the article talking about how many kids Obama has killed with his drones and bluebird7 just kept telling me they were going to track me down for being against Obama.

  114. By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway I have never cared who is against me as long as Im speaking truth as I know it … dont care what others think and fear no man

  115. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I just hope as a team we agressive this offseason! trade up if needed not be afraid to make a big trade if it comes up. We are only a few good moves away from being a VERYgood team

  116. By Champ Henson on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I’m not a democrat or republican…..however Obama always seems to be working hard at “acting” and “looking like” a president. There is always this “phoniness” about his demeaner….like I’m watching a theatre play……oh well, enough about politics, because both parties suck.

  117. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    amen to both parties sucking. All I know is he better not try and take away my 2nd amendment right.

  118. By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I am also not above learning … I can argue err debate my view and when I know Im wrong will change my view.

  119. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    So any current players on the roster that people think are going to get delt for either picks or other players before next years opener?

  120. By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Percy

  121. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    What do you think picks? players? combo?

  122. By RichardA1 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Argos, I left you a special keep the imbred in Wisc at the Packers blog, now go back to making cheese, this is a football blog!

  123. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Can we just package Toby, JA, and KWilliams for a first round? I’d really like to get one more first round pick with the guys that are in the 1st round this year.

  124. By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    No clue … at least a first rounder … I think he is done and he holds value we will not cut him but likely a first and a player

    I want to explore Ryan Mallet and a 1st …

  125. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    You would think there is a team out there hungry for a RB that would be interested in toby..

  126. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I love Harvin on the vikes, but his lack of being avail for a whole season hurts us. If we trade him, all i ask is that we get a good return on him

  127. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Gerhart…

    Main reason being ???…

    If there was a total lie that has crossed Frazier’s lips since spring training…

    It was Fraziers plan…On how he was going to run the RB situation this year…

    With AP coming off the ACL injury…It was Gerhart was supposed to carry the load early…And have AP work his way back into his position…
    Getting To a point they could make one of the best RB duo’s in football…

    Well guess what…AP was handed the ball opening day…And Gerhart has had about one carry a game this year ???…No knocks against AP at all…

    But if I am Gerhart…I want a trade after the off season…

    Gerhart has been very smart…Not complaining at all…
    But if I’m Gerhart…I am not a happy camper…

    I think Gerhart gets traded…And will be a beast, wherever he goes…

  128. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I know he is a capable back, so you would think we could get a solid return on him. I love him as an insurance RB but he deserves a real shot, and we can always get a servicable back up later in the draft for RB

  129. By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Speak of the De’vil

    http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Pelissero_Percy_Harvins_injury_was_legitimate_but_future_uncertain122012

  130. By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    It started in that game at Seattle, where TV cameras caught Harvin waving his arms and screaming at Frazier on the sideline over his frustration with the Vikings’ struggling offense.

    According to four NFL sources, Harvin and Frazier had another heated exchange weeks later in front of some players and staff members, fueling speculation about a deteriorating relationship that could spell the end of Harvin’s four seasons in Minnesota.

  131. By Spencer on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

  132. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Gerhart is a bull…With zero “wear & tear” on his body…

    Vikings will get a second round pick for him…Unless they use him in on a player trade scenario ???…

  133. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I also think if we do choose to move harvin, it needs to happen before or at the draft. That way we can draft with a more clear image of our team going into the draft

  134. By Tomcat on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    How many x-tra picks do we have besides the 4th rounder?

  135. By Tomcat on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    We should keep Toby. What if Adrian got hurt like the 5th game next year? We would still have a 1000 yard runner in Toby.

  136. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    http://minnesota.sbnation.com/minnesota-vikings/2012/12/20/3787754/2013-nfl-mock-draft

    I dont think an interior linemen is the best pick for our first round like this guy predicts, though i think it is an area we should improve… just not convinced 1st round is the place to do it

  137. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Yup I’ve been saying that about Gerhardt basically all year and last offseason OTK. For the 1-3 carries he gets a game, any backup in the league will do and Asiata looks like he can handle that load just fine. AP is a freak, he has at least 5 years of 1000 yard seasons ahead of him even though he won’t always be as explosive as this year.

  138. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Yeah Barrett Jones would make our Oline ridiculous, but we need a DT or LB or WR much worse, but if they feel he is the BPA when we pick, I wouldn’t hate it I guess.

  139. By Tomcat on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    It is risky trading quality, established NFL players for draft picks who may or may not pan out.

  140. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    yea there def could be worse picks than him but i would much rather see the needs you stated adressed first

  141. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Well put Tomcat, that’s why I don’t get why so many people are set on trading a known NFL commodity in Harvin for unproven draft picks. If he wants out, then we don’t have a choice. But trading older players like J. Allen, K. Williams, and a player that doesn’t see the field like Gerhardt that we could still get value for makes a lot of sense, especially for a team like us that is working their way back up.

  142. By Tomcat on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    A big dt, ala Fat Pat would go a long way to putting our run defense back to what it was 3 years ago.

  143. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I would rather keep Harvin than trade him for picks, but I would ratehr get picks than see him walk in FA just my opinion

  144. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Spielman will get at LEAST a first round pick for Harvin…

    Or Harvin will sit into the season on the last year of his rookie contract…
    Until some team with WR injuries…Ponies up with a number one pick for Harvin…

    This springs draft class might have some nice talent…But nothing that can compared to the talent of a 4 year veteran player like Harvin…

    Some team will trade a number one pick…No problem…

    But I do expect Harvin to be traded…The writing is on the wall…It becomes more obvious by the day now…

  145. By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Dwayne Bowe

    Pay Loadholt

  146. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    All I can say is- do not trade him to the Packers or Bears!

  147. By Tomcat on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    With a team like the Vikings that is close to being a powerhouse it could be counter- productive to start changing too many pieces.

  148. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    If he gets traded Titus is spot on, it NEEDs to be out of the division!!!! and please do not let us trade him for a LOW first round pick. Get something in the first 10 picks! he is still in his rookie contract, lots of good years in those legs

  149. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    We still are missing too many big peices to being a power house…

  150. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway…

    Yep…Its to bad…I don’t think it would have taken that much to keep Gerhart happy…Maybe just 5-6 carries a game…

    But one carry a game is a joke…

    Like I said…Nothing against AP here at all…What he has done is AMAZING !!

  151. By Tomcat on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Bowe would be a good fit if the cost wasn`t prohibitive.

  152. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Bowe would be a MOJOR step in the right direction. We could focus on D in the draft and truely be in line to be a powerhouse from there. with Bowe we would know sooner rather than later if Ponder is a long term solution

  153. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    by MOJOR, i mean Major…

  154. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn, you don’t think there’s any chance they give D. Love a chance at RT and save the money? Loadholdt is a beast, but I thought Love was looking pretty good when he got a chance to play, but he was injured all year so who knows. Always good to have depth as well I suppose.

  155. By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    OG early not bad either … we added Kalil and Fusco and AP went from a 1300yard back to a 2000 yard back … another big guy for CJohnson LOOK OUT

    APs best season previously was his rookie season when Hutch, McKinnie, Birk, Loadholt, and Herrera were in their prime

  156. By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    No … I dont know what the talk about Love is. I only see a part time player at best.

    Loadholt depending on his demands is my choice.

  157. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Yeah it ALMOST makes more sense to draft a big HOG of an OG like Jones instead of a WR in the first round if we are truly going to play “vikings football”. If we did, I would guarantee AD got another 2000 yards next year and not think twice about it.

  158. By Tomcat on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Loadholt better eat his wheaties this Sunday.

  159. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Titus…

    You don’t want Harvin to go too the Bears…Why not ???…

    How long do you think Marshal and Harvin could coexist ???…

    Or Harvin and Lovey ???…hahahaha…

    Don’t even worry about the Packers…They don’t even pay their own very good receivers big contract money…With good attitudes…They would not come with in a 100 miles of Harvin !!!…

  160. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    That being said, there are actually a number of FA OG this offseason that we could acquire without breaking the bank as compared to the number of FA DT and LB that are available to fill our needs.

  161. By Spencer on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Why the f-ck do you guys want to trade Harvin so badly?

  162. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Cuz he is a meany head to the coach Spencer. LOL

  163. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Loadholt has been pretty solid the second half of the season…He was getting beat on the outside earlier this season…But doing better the second half…

    Our tackles are doing well…I agree..

    PAY LOADHOLT….

  164. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, I personally dont think people “want” to trade harvin. Its more that they dont see the relationship lasting, and a likely hold out if he doesnt get paid. No one wants to see him hold out then leave via FA for nothing

  165. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Harvin doesn’t like the way things are run around here…He has made that point perfectly clear “many times”…And to many different coaches…

    Harvin needs to find a new home…

  166. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    They won’t let him leave via FA, they will either pay him when the season ends or trade him, they know he won’t play another year on his rookie contract.

  167. By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer … seriously its not about wanting to trade Harvin

    YOU CANT FORCE A GIRL TO LOVE YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    IF SHE WANTS TO LEAVE JUST LET HER GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  168. By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Should we lock Harvin in the basement and tie him up???

  169. By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Harvin … my precious

  170. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Call up Obama ask him what we need to give Harvin to make him want to stay

  171. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    more handouts?

  172. By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

  173. By Tomcat on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Leave Obama out of this- he`s a Bears fan.

  174. By Spencer on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry, but im not for trading Harvin.

  175. By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Chris Cook is a better Minnesota Viking than Percy Harvin

  176. By Tomcat on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    The more you think about it, Bowe makes a lot of sense.I grew up by K.C., and the Chiefs are the only other team I follow (sorta) Bowe has multiple 1000 yard seasons. One year he had 15 td. and this is all with marginal qb`s.

  177. By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Tomcat … “marginal” ? You are very kind :)

  178. By Tomcat on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Players like Harvin don`t grow on trees.

  179. By Tomcat on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn- Well, Cassel did fairly well his 1st season, other than that, Todd Philcox looks good.

  180. By hippster on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    @ shawn your letter to MR O was interesting, IT SUCKS WHEN YOU WAIST YOUR VOTE DOESNT IT

  181. By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    No they dont. I like Harvin but am just beyond all the non sense. I see enough people like Peterson who put everything they have into football and remain positive and give everything they have no matter what. Show up to practice everyday and work hard ….

    Then I see Harvin.

  182. By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    i didnt vote for him hippster … not the second time. So suck that

  183. By hippster on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    @shawn there is hope for you yet .i already like you alot more,

  184. By Spencer on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    What if Obama….was white?

  185. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Percy doesnt want to leave he wants to WIN.

  186. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    PAY PERCY

  187. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply
    Chris Cook is a better Minnesota Viking than Percy Harvin

    I may be wrong but werent you the one who was saying Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking than Chris Cook?

  188. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Based on skill and talent, I am against trading Harvin. But if he is disruptive to the team chemistry and requires high maintenance from the coaches, then see ya. Look at Green Bay and the Giants– overall both teams have very low key players– not a bunch of superstars, except for maybe their quarterbacks– and when you play as a team, as they do– watch out. Frazier and Spielman want to build a solid team of disciplined mature and high character— takes a little longer but it will pay off — I see two or three championships if the Mayans made an error.

  189. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    ITS ABOUT WANTING TO WIN SHAWN!

  190. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Ha yeah we won’t have much to talk about next week if the Mayans were right.

  191. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Charles Woodson has gotten into a heated argument with McCarthy in the past. They both put it behind them because they both want to win. I believer they ended up winning the Superbowl that year.

  192. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    They didn’t account for leap years though so their 2012 was last year some time

  193. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I think some of you have leapt through one too many wormholes.

  194. By Spencer on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I love Cook’s passion.

  195. By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    GDP … Its about wanting to win? Hmmm we havent been under .500 all season and were over .500 when he threw his tantrum … Seems its not all about “winning”

  196. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    lol the poll question…funny i picked harrison smith and hes leading the poll…i can see him winning american gladiators

  197. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    We are above .500 and are contending for a playoff spot, are we a superbowl contender without Percy? Not even close.

  198. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I see that same passion out of Percy. Got to love it

  199. By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    whats your point you have to win to get to the Super Bowl … you suggesting Percy was upset we didnt win the Super Bowl 5 weeks ago?

  200. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    SUPERBOWL Shawn not playoffs.

  201. By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    the Super Bowl can not be played week 8 …. So you are telling me Percy was mad about not being in the Super Bowl week 8?

  202. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    you watch ponder will pull this off the last couple weeks…we’ll all be wondering where its been all year but i jus have one of those feelings…it came over me last week that he was gunna play good these last three weeks and he had a pretty good game last week…it will be funny

  203. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    He was upset because the offensive play caller almost cost us the season. Yeah I’m talking about Frazier. He wasnt doing everything he can to give this team the best chance to win. Percy was doing everything he can. Thats why he was in the MVP discussion before he was injured do you forget that? I dont see Frazier up for Coach of the Year.

  204. By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    GDP the point is WE WERE WINNING when Percy threw his tantrum … so your point isnt making sense

  205. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Smith ALL DAY for Gladiators!!

  206. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Mad because the losses in week 7 and 8 almost cost this team a chance at the Superbowl. If you miss the playoffs there is no shot at the superbowl. What are you not seeing here?

  207. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking than Percy Harvin LOL

  208. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Actually we lost 2 straight.

  209. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    So I’ll ask you then. Do we have a better chance of going to the Superbowl with or without Percy?

  210. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    With him, we would have an ever better shot with a true outside deep threat though…

  211. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    without percy and i can explain

  212. By Shawn on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    hmm so Peterson should throw a fit if he is a true champion?

  213. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder needs Percy. His skill set is a perfect match for Ponder’s noddle arm.

  214. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    without percy…ponder is looking for more recievers and not jus lookin harvin down everytime

  215. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    this will help him trust me

  216. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    he was relying WAY too much on harvin..

  217. By Spencer on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Why is this a problem…?

  218. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    ponder has throwin nearly as many as those lil bubble screens since harvin has been out…if harvin were to still be here thats all ponder would ever be good for

  219. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    hasnt*

  220. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Dont get me wrong, I like Harvin as a Vike. I want him in Purple and Gold. But Wright will develope into a quality slot guy, we need a true outside threat more than Harvin. Will trading Harvin get us that, I dont know, I am just a fan and blogger… BUT IF trading him WILL get us that outside threat,then I am all for it.

  221. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    harrison smith would kick some @ss in american gladiators

  222. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    we cant trade him man…this is the last year on his contract i think…u cant trade somebody who aint under contract….they shoulda done that last year if anything

  223. By Tomcat on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    The squeeky wheel gets the grease they say.

  224. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    hes gone in free agency this year..cuz i already know we wont resign him cuz he cant seem to finish a year..plus he got ina argument with the head coach…plus he wants number one reciever money which he definately is not worth

  225. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    they easily could, make sure its a team he WANTS to go to. if the team knows thats where he wants to play, that means he wants to extend with them. with his skill set it shouldnt be too hard to find a match

  226. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    “The lack of execution, the pass protection, QB not getting the ball out on time.”

    All things that a guy who is giving everything to win has the right to be mad about. Oh lets forget about the fact that the playcalling, the QB, the rest of the passing offense was just horrible and only focus on this one guy yelling at his coach because he wants to win. That seems fair.

    Thanks Spencer for that video.

  227. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    @smith22dmvp…how many years are left on harvins contract

  228. By Tomcat on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Ya think they would utilize him in Denver? N.O.?

  229. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    honestly i think percy harvin needs to shut his mouth until he can finish a full season….then again they were running plays for him that were bound to get him hurt eventually….

  230. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I think* next season is his last under contract. So trade him in the offseason to a team that wants him long term, they can then sign him to whatever they agree on. but still like i said I want him in purple and gold unless we can get a true outside reciever out of it.

  231. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    One more year after this season

  232. By Spencer on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    If Ponder wasnt hot garbage- Percy wouldnt be complaining..

  233. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Percy has finished a full season before what are you talking about. AND i dont hear or read about Percy telling reporters this or telling reporters that.

  234. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    i want him on the team but i think he wants ALOT of money..so ya id trade him if he does have another year on the contract….plus think about it…ina couple years every team will figure out to have a kicker to kick it outta bounce on the kickoff everytime…and thats where percy was the best

  235. By Tomcat on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    My 2 cents says you keep a player that talented unless all bridges are blazing.

  236. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    he played in all 16 games???

  237. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    dude ponder will rely too much on percy….he will jus get hurt again..you know this

  238. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Goodell is trying to eliminate kickoffs anyway/

  239. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    and i didnt say he was complaining to the reporters man…he was complaining to his coach during the middle of a game…thats even worse

  240. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Well then Frazier needs to work with Ponder on that. Ponder is the one who needs to work on his game not Percy.

  241. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    blame that fool musgrave for searing that d@mn bubble screen in ponders head everytime…now that percy gone i think hes startin to look down the field more…for example that deep shot he took against the rams last week

  242. By Tomcat on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Yeah, that`s about as crazy as a sprayed roach.

  243. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    granddady purp…we will all me smoking a victory blunt after ponder pulls it off these last two weeks watch

  244. By Tomcat on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Previous was about Goodell.

  245. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    lol r u saying im as crazy as a sprayed roach

  246. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I brought up the reporters thing because that would be a distraction or what a drama queen ,like some people on this blog are calling him, would do and that is not at all what he is doing.

  247. By northwoodsv2 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    McKinnie had a prime?

  248. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    my fault man u were probably talkin about somethin else

  249. By Tomcat on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    It`s not like he`s a Barry Bonds or somethin`

  250. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    naw i dont think hes a drama queen at all….he aint no crybaby like terrell owens thats for sure

  251. By Tomcat on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    cali- Iwas referring to Goodell.

  252. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    id rather have a taller number one than percy harvin tho…it would compliment that floating pass ponder throws…i think ponder has the potential to be a deep ball thrower..from what i seen he aint much of bullet thrower..

  253. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I’m not saying Ponder cant. I’m saying I want Percy in purple and gold. This is not like Sidney Rice where we can just let him walk. Percy is a special talent. Him and AD make up in my opinion the best RB receiver tandem in the league, and thats another thing Percy is not a receiver he is a football player.

  254. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    @tomcat…ya i figured that out…that would be g@y if they took kickoffs out…its already g@y how they kickoff further up nowadays

  255. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    If harvin stays a viking, its a huge win! if he gets traded and we get a GOOD return, its a win, if he gets traded and we get a BAD return someone needs to loose a job, if he walks after next season and we get nothing, well a few people should be under fire to say the least.

  256. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    percy is good aint no doubt about it… but do you think hes a number one…i think hes a solid number two…but he wants number one money

  257. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    i think percy would be even better if ponder can throw a bullet to him and get the ball in his hands even quicker but you already know that aint gunna happen…it would suit ponder better if we were to have a guy like sydney rice again.. a deep guy

  258. By northwoodsv2 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I’d love to take Patterson in the 2nd, though he might go in the first. He’s real fast and dynamic so we could take Harvin off of doing KR and put Patterson at KR and PR.
    ————————————————————————————

    I had to read that a few times. I still don’t know if you’re serious or joking. If you’re serious, could you please explain why you would take the ball out of the hands of a KR that has the potential to take it to the endzone every time he fields one?

  259. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    we have to adapt and look to what reciever would suit ponder better…and a taller reciever would b better i think….remember when ponder threw that deep touchdown on his first career start last year…he can succeed at the deep ball….play action through peterson all day and we could be a down the field team like the old days

  260. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I think with a second full off season, Ponder can make some adjustments and come back to be a solid starter. I doubt he will be a superstar, but he could def become a solid starter. If we get him a true outside threat to compliment the guys we have, that will only help him.

  261. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    poor d@mn joe webb is a good qb…its a shame we got ponder who i think could b good too just in different ways

  262. By sean on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    honestly when i think of this vikings team compared to any other vikings team that was good there is a major difference.. this team lacks the skill the others had, but have much more heart… thats thanks to the coaching staff. i was a frazier disbeliever but now its completly diffrent.. coaching staff is great

  263. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    ponder needs too smoke some granddaddy and get some velocity on his throws and he’ll be good…….

  264. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder will be just fine. Breakout game for him on Sunday.

  265. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Webb is a great backup. I do not think he is starter material though. I think once teams actually prepared for HIM and studyed tape that he wouldnt be an effective passer, just a runner. that my opinion. but none of us have seen enough of him to know anything for sure

  266. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    @sean ..i think the offense aint as good from years back..but the defense is….if we’d of had the defense we have now back when moss and carter was on the team weda already been champs….we’re actually kinda balanced right now which is good

  267. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    LETS GO PONDER YAAAAA……….lol

  268. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Percy is not true receiver you have to understand that. He does so many things that Larry Fitz or Megatron dont do. Yes those two can do things Percy cant, but what he brings to the table every game, I’m sure every team would take him any day over Ponder and/or Frazier. Next year is his last year he will prove he is worth that big money contract.

    I would feel more comfortable giving that money to him instead of a free agent receiver.

  269. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    i seen webb escape some pressure like nobody ive ever seen…i wanted him to be the starter for awhile this year…the more i wanted webb to be in the more ponder stunk…the days im rooting for ponder he tends to play good…weird stuff…so im all for ponder now

  270. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    If Ponder smoked some granddaddy he will be too paranoid to even hand the ball off lol

  271. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    from what i heard fitzgerald wants out…and guess who the team is he would most want to go to is….feeling good about that one

  272. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    @gdp hahahahah…hed throw the bullet we’ve yet to see and it cracks the ref right in the face

  273. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    i always thought ponder could be good but i always thought joe webb could be a lil better… but F it…once you go ponder you stay pondered…im on the ponder wagon now

  274. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    From what i heard Jenning will be a free agent. He is rooting for AD to break the record. Is this a sign? Could you imagine getting Jennings, Fitzgerald, and keeping Percy with AD? Now that has Superbowl written all over it.

  275. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Id rather not get jennnings, Im more for the youth movement… but i cant say no to the hometown guy in larry fitz! How lucky can mn be Pairse and suter then fitz? i doubt it

  276. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    sorry man i do not want any cheesheads on this team..we’re already lookin at playin gb the last game of the year and then in round 1 of the playoffs..jennings jus might p!ss me off even more between now and then…we couldnt afford um all anyways…id take fitz tho for sure..he grew up there ..it would be the perfect fit…i think he wanted to be there the whole time anyways

  277. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    i dont want are team stinkin of cheese…he’ll probably suck go figure if he was to come here anyway

  278. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Hey im allowed to dream.

  279. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    and then we’ll have all thes lil b!tch packer fans sayin we need their players to win…theyll bring up brett favre…i can see it already

  280. By Derrick.G on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply


    Ponder has an arm. We need to get this outta him.

  281. By Smith22DMVP on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    thats what confidence can do for you. he clearly hasnt been playing with much. harvin went down.. wrs had a few bad drops add in with bad play calling and a few brutal hits and he just hasnt gotten back on track. granted he needs to learn to play through that but he IS STILL YOUNG

  282. By Derrick.G on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Not to mention, that was on the run.

  283. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    holy sh!t that was nice pass from ponder

  284. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    we should have are recievers running deeper routes… seems like ponder is more comfortable with that

  285. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    The Minnesota Vikings and coach Leslie Frazier have continually said that Percy Harvin’s placement on injured reserve was purely due to the ankle injury that hadn’t healed as expected. As is often the case with Harvin, the story isn’t quite so simple.

    Four NFL sources told ESPN Twin Cities’ Tom Pelissero there was a “heated exchange” between Frazier and Harvin in front of players and staff members in the training room before the decision was made.

    While some “inside and outside” the Vikings building believed the confrontation was the reason for the IR designation, one source said the team and Harvin’s agent had already started talking about placing Harvin on IR before the incident. But that doesn’t mean other factors didn’t eventually come into play.

    There have been several issues with Harvin in Minnesota since he was drafted No. 22 overall in 2009. He missed numerous practices the first two years due to migraines. Harvin abruptly demanded a trade during the team’s June minicamp before backing off the request. He was kicked out of practice by former coach Brad Childress in 2010 after being accused of not giving full effort. The two were separated and the confrontation continued into the weight room where a witness said Harvin threw a weight.

    More recently, the wide receiver was seen screaming at Frazier during a Week 9 loss to the Seahawks.

    Harvin is rehabbing near his home in Florida, but said on Nov. 21 “I’m ready for this next stretch. I should be good.” He never went through a full practice afterward and was placed on IR two weeks later. Frazier said the decision “helps us all” despite the fact the Vikings were losing one of their top two offensive players during a playoff push.

    The 2012 handling of the wide receiver is over, however it actually went down, but 2013 is a contract year and Harvin said he won’t report to camp without an extension. Does he even still want one from Minnesota? Would the Vikings consider a trade? Harvin was in the MVP discussion before the injury.

    Stay tuned.

  286. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    whens your next book come out man

  287. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I just read that article too

  288. By Derrick.G on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    If Harvin is gonna act like that, I’ll be okay with letting him go.

  289. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    what you copy and paste all that

  290. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Yeah, I read that article earlier– Firedchildress you should give attribution, dude.

  291. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    i wonder if a player has ever come on here and read the these blog comments

  292. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Uh Oh. They know. Well i’m out of here lol

  293. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Want to know when we absolutely know we have our franchise quarterback?

  294. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    One clear sign that our quarterback has arrived.

  295. By Derrick.G on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    We’ll know after we get some WR help…..until then, I don’t see any rookie QB doing that great with us.

  296. By Derrick.G on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    If good QB’s are able to ‘make’ WRs…..how come Jay Cutler couldn’t make Devin Aromashodu good? Matt Ryan couldn’t make Michael Jenkins good? So, what makes you think we could make them good?

  297. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    There is an undeniable criteria for knowing when your quarterback is the one.

  298. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    brett favre seemed to make no names house names

  299. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    jay cutler is a overrated spoilded brat

  300. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I’m on the edge of my seat….

  301. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    i mean *spoiled

  302. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Ha ha ha– I wrote the same thing and then decided not to post– about Cutler being overrated– he does at times seem to strike a bullet exactly where needed.

  303. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    What do all the elite quarterbacks have in common?

  304. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Married to a blonde?

  305. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    whenever i think cutler i think of the money he cost me when he bailed out on his team in that conference championship game…i didnt wanna go for the bears but i sure as #@$ didnt wanna go for the puke…if i had it my way they both woulda lost that game…i had my money hangin in hanies hands

  306. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    worst championship game i ever watched knowing one of them &^(*&^^* was goin to the superbowl

  307. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Titus…

    I know..I know…I know !!!!…

    Its when your number one WR on that QB’s team is leading the league in receptions and receiving yards…

    Just like Harvin was…BEFORE he got injured…

    Harvin has no reason to be upset about ANYTHING !!!…

    Besides Wes Welker…
    How many slot receivers in the league have led the league in those categories before ???…

  308. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    @titus….they all have rings

  309. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    who agrees with me that if we throw chris cook out there in the middle of the game we are in trouble….hes been out too long we mize well jus keep jefferson in there maybe he’ll show us something…besides hes from bakersfield california…like me

  310. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    jefferson used to play on the same team as ryan mathews in high school…ryan mathews called him the best player on the team…i know we havent seen it yet..but i think hes gettin a lil better every week…he looks a lot better than he did that first week we put him in..

  311. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    When Ponder promotes pizza– then we know he made it.

  312. By john 61 on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    vikes win16to13,

  313. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    god i hate that stupid pizza hut commercial rogers is in….especially when we’re losing….that lil song they play gets more annoying everytime

  314. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Well Ponder might be delivering pizzas soon, but i don’t think that counts…

  315. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    all those commercials are a gynx tho…greenbay is goin nowhere in the playoffs….thank the commercials packer fans…

  316. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Yeah, what about Papa John’s?

  317. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    AMERican gladiators..,..harrison smith….lets make it happen

  318. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    papa johns=denver gynx…..broncos lose in afc championship….will remind me of farves comeback but falls jus short

  319. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    when you own 50 franchise papa john’s stores in the Denver area like Manning does, your a great qb

  320. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    where the heck is everybody at…the one day i decide to get up on here and bul&^( with everybody

  321. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    i read everybodys comments…i know what goes on around here…dont leave caliviking hangin

  322. By Spencer on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    We’re just getting ready for the world to end.

  323. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    t-minus 2 hours and counting

  324. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    does that mean i die at 9 oclock if i live on the west coast

  325. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    or does the world ending revolve around eastern time

  326. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    for a good prank on ur family….turn off the lights real quick in your house once 12 oclock hits…

  327. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    News for you– more than half the world is already experienced December 21. Or do you believe everything revolves around the United States? Get out of your neighborhood and travel a little.

  328. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    it’s not suppose to happen right at 12 o clock. it suppose to happen anytime on the 21st

  329. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    exactly……was it susposed to end exactly at 12 anyways….

  330. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Well, it’s 4pm in New Zealand– nothing has happened– and nothing will happen.

  331. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply
    it’s not suppose to happen right at 12 o clock. it suppose to happen anytime on the 21st

    __________________________________________________________________WHAT? HUH? Are you following this? Ha ha ha ha.

  332. By Spencer on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    If any of you guys enjoy action/thriller movies, I highly recommend “The Next Three Days.”

    Its easily one of the best movies I’ve seen in years.

  333. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    o sh!t i jus thought of something….where were the mayans located…thats probably the timezone its based on

  334. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    aka is always full of GREAT news huh

  335. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    yo PONDER AKA …..you think you can change your nametag into something positve jus once before the world ends….jp

  336. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    HA HA HA — Cali, there were no time zones back then — goofs!

  337. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    there is nothing positive about a bottom 5 qb

  338. By Parkway on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

  339. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    @augustus…maybe they based it on the time the sun rises or sets where they were at

  340. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    for the most part im jus playin tho..u know i dont really believe in all that cuz i believe adrian peterson is destined to get that record

  341. By caliviking on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    i can think of 5 qbs id rather not have on this team than ponder…really man

  342. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    I have big plans for 2013– Mayans or not.

  343. By Argos Geminus Sparticus Esperanza on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Sup Muth@Fuhkers. If the world ends tomorrow the Vikings will have never won a Superbowl. That’s Awesome!!!!!!!!!!

  344. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 20, 2012 | Reply

    Somebody needs a bar of soap to brush his teeth.

  345. By viking181164 on Dec 21, 2012 | Reply

    gee i just imagine what the blogs of detroit,cleveland and the jets say about its teams…the vikes rebuild in 1 year with no receivers i might add..were sitting in a good spot and still have fans that dis them weekly…sometimes i think its easier being 3-13 wake up viking fans..

  346. By RichardA1 on Dec 21, 2012 | Reply

    Argos, go make your cheese! A.P. is going to drag a gang of Packers behind him as he breaks the NFL rushing record!

  347. By sunnyazvike on Dec 21, 2012 | Reply

    IF WE WANT A SUPERBOWL, WE NEED PERCY AS A VIKING! this is season and offseason will be the base for the remaining players we need to get a TROPHY soon. Jared needs a new extension with lower numbers on the first 2 years of the contract then to high. Percy needs an incentive contract Long term. cook needs above avg contract, with incentives. Keep toby around for another 2 years. griffen needs medium build contract with incentives. NEW DT, MLB, WR, G,CB.

  348. By vikes- or - die on Dec 21, 2012 | Reply

    I though Houston played on turf, not grass. We seem to play better on turf, but we did look good in Green Bay last time we played there. Those 2 turnovers killed us though. As strong as AD is running, it might favor our running game though. Heck, right now he could run in sand and make it look like he is running on a track. What a freakin BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  349. By Parkway on Dec 21, 2012 | Reply

    AD will need 250

  350. By vikes- or - die on Dec 21, 2012 | Reply

    My two cents on Harvin. Keep Him. He’s a bit of a hot head, but thats OK. Some guys just aren’t good at voicing their opinions or frustrations. He’s a throwback, old school type. I like that. Keep him. He’s a miniature BEAST. AP, is the BEAST of BEAST!!!!!!!!!

  351. By vikes- or - die on Dec 21, 2012 | Reply

    AP needs 250, BUT AP WANTS 350!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  352. By Parkway on Dec 21, 2012 | Reply

    I think our D will have to hold the Texans under 14 points to win this game

  353. By Alamo Tex on Dec 21, 2012 | Reply

    Go read the new blog, you turkeys

  354. By vikesince69 on Dec 21, 2012 | Reply

    Harvin will not be back next season. He is very talented but is injury prone and is a hot head. Will be good trade bait in the off season because he is young and got some productive years left. Trade him to AFC if possible but definitely outside of the North Division if he stays in NFC.

  355. By sdvikefan on Dec 21, 2012 | Reply

    I think everyone that considers that a player yelling or arguing is a bad thing should realize that we to are not privvy to the context of the argument etc. Brady for example was responding to something his coach said to him and we do not know what or how that was conveyed to him. For all we know, Percy could have been upset that he had to go on IR so why draw any conclusions or try to reach for an explanation. It will play out. I have not heard of any issues with Harvin and his teammates or coaches in general so I am not going to label him as a Diva. I appreciate all the optimism out there in general from you all for the most part! BTW it is hilarious when the occasional troll chimes in. Wow, if I thought I ever was having a slow day, can’t even imagine wasting my time by going onto another teams blog and talking 8 year old mentality smack…

  356. By Al on Dec 23, 2012 | Reply

    I personally don’t care AT ALL about Ponder getting married, I just want the Vikings to divorce him QUICKLY and get a QB who has his head in the game.

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