Double Trouble: Vikings Preparing For Rams Pass Rush, Crowd Noise

Posted by Mike Wobschall on December 12, 2012 – 1:33 pm

Since Leslie Frazier joined the Vikings as defensive coordinator in 2007, he’s seen his team thrive at home thanks in part to a lethal pass rush and a significant home-field advantage that is derived largely from deafening crowd noise at Mall of America Field. This week, though, Frazier and the Vikings hit the road for a game in St. Louis, and the Vikings head coach says his team is preparing for those factors to work in concert against his team.

“It’ll be a big challenge,” Frazier said on Wednesday. “They’re second in the League in sacks. I know that place will be loud on Sunday, so we’ll have to really work hard here in practice on trying to simulate that noise, similar to what people experience when they come to our place.”

The Rams are 4-2 in their home building this year, and they’ve collected 21 of their 39 total sacks in those 6 home contests. They sacked Arizona QBs 9 times on October 4 and more recently tallied 3 sacks against both the NY Jets and San Francisco 49ers at home. The key to the Rams pass rush is their DEs, as starters Chris Long and Robert Quinn have combined for 17.0 sacks. On top of that, DT Michael Brockers, a 1st-rounder from the 2012 NFL Draft, has 4.0 sacks in 10 games rushing from the inside.

“Both Robert Quinn and (Chris) Long are outstanding pass rushers,” Frazier acknowledged. “They give them (the Rams) great edge rush on both edges, so they’re guys we’re going to have to contend with. We’ll have to do some different things to kind of offset what they’re capable of doing.

“But our tackles, they’ve got a big challenge ahead of them. They have good defensive tackles as well, so it’s a good (defensive) front.”

Aside from personnel on the field, the Vikings have a couple more factors working in their favor. First, their defensive line coach – Brendan Daly – spent the previous three seasons on the Rams staff, so he has some familiarity with St. Louis’ personnel. Secondly, Frazier pointed out that this Vikings team has some experience playing in hostile environments, as all NFL teams do, so the adverse environment won’t catch the offense by surprise.

“It’ll be a big challenge for our offensive line, there’s no question about it,” Frazier said, “and for our offense in general trying to function in that environment. We’ve been in some tough environments in the past, and this is one where we’ll have to rise to the challenge.”

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56 Responses to “Double Trouble: Vikings Preparing For Rams Pass Rush, Crowd Noise”

  1. By gitarzanfan on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    I agree. FIRST!!!!!!

  2. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    the rest of of team will fight hard to win, but Ponder will blow the game all by himself

  3. By Ponder Trash Talk on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Oh heck yeah he will. Ponder can’t stop thinking about how he’d much rather lose the game and go home and cry to his new fiance Samantha who tells him things will get better. But secretly knows she’s dating a loser, and may have to find another QB to date. Like Tony Romo.

  4. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply


  5. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    She will leave him for Joe Webb

  6. By BlueBird7 on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Chris Long…Son of Howie Long, Hall of Famer TE.

    Chris is 5 year vet. As stated previously, he will say “Hi” to Ponder.

  7. By Spike on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    I’ve been reading these blogs for some time but this is my first time writing to it. To all the Ponder bashers …. PLEASE remove your blinders and see the whole picture. Yes, Ponder has to improve … nobody disputes that. However the entire passing game is currently deficient and needs to improve. We need better play calling …. we need better pass protection …. we need receivers who can stretch the field, get open, and catch the ball.

    Considering where this team was one year ago, I’m very pleased with the progress we’ve made this season. I’m frustrated with the mistakes, but overall pleased where this team is headed. Ponder may or may not prove out, but he deserves more time to develop. Let’s support our team. SKOL !!!

  8. By elvis on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Spike, tend to agree with you(Except at about 3:00 last lambeau). But you may just have opened a huge wormcan. Some guys on here are reasonable, and some are irrational and relentless. I agree Vikes can only improve, next draft, free agency, Greg Childs?

  9. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    The ENTIRE passing game is terrible. Not just Ponder.

  10. By BlueBird7 on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply


    I agree. The passing game does need an upgrade. That is why Joe Webb

    should be allowed to show us what he can do. Might be an improvement!

  11. By northwoodsv2 on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Why should we allow someone who is losing games for us to “continue to develop” when he hasn’t developed in 23 games?

    Why should the rest of the team, which would be assured of the playoffs with a QB who can complete a throw beyond 10 yards, have to wait ANOTHER year for the opportunity?

  12. By northwoodsv2 on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Bring Sage back for now, let Ponder mature a couple years…..perhaps his fragile ego will heal with time.

  13. By Spencer on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Time for some Brandon Burton!

  14. By Immure on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    “Chris Long…Son of Howie Long, Hall of Famer TE.”

    Sorry for being nit picky but Howie Long was a DE not a TE.

  15. By Immure on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer- Didn’t your say that Brandon Burton experiment was over earlier this week and I thought it was time for some Bobby Felder?

  16. By Mike B. on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Stick it out with Ponder and see what he can do.

  17. By adam on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    unfortuantely, im hoping for ponder to come out of this game with an injury

  18. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    i’ve seen what Ponder can do. i’ve seen enough

  19. By Kathy P on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Why are they so worried about crowd noise? We know the routine; Ponder will hand the ball to AP for most of the day as always. That’s about the only way we will be able to put points on the board unless we get a couple of Defensive interceptions.

  20. By johnny on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    enough of ponder bashing..till sunday of course, lets talk about next year. Ponder should be cut, yes, cut. Anyhoo, first round pick should be Justin hunter or Da’Rick Rogers , 2nd round, we should trade up to get logan thomas. 3rd, should be linebacker. 4th round- DT and 5th and 6th should be for corners and depth

  21. By johnny on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    i think we should trade gerhart for a draft pick. maybe a 4th or 5th rounder? He really isnt doing much for us and has some value

  22. By 4eversteve on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Loadholt is a very big concern going up against Robert Quin, he lacks the athletic ability to stay with Quin. Now Matt Kalil on the other hand should hold his own against Chris Long, he has been a very big bright spot for this average O-line at best. AP, what can you say about this beast. his terminator like ability just continues to amaze both the fans of the game as well as his peers are astounded by what he is doing this season coming off that horrific knee injury. Here’s hoping that the Vikings come away victorious!

  23. By BlueBird7 on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    How about this folks>>>>>>>>>>Adrian Peterson only needs 506 yards to break

    Iric D-ickersons 2105 yds record! That would be only 169 yds last 3 games each!

    Go for it AD !

  24. By BlueBird7 on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply


    You are right. Chris and Daddy, both DE’s.

  25. By Spencer on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Immure I did say that but it was before AJ Jefferson got injured. Felder isn’t ready yet so its time to see how good Brandon Burton is.

  26. By Saddy on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    I hope we get Dwayne Bowe next year, imagine Dwayne Bowe outside and with AP, I dare anyone to put 8 men in the box then.

    It would be tough to pay Harvin and Bowe but who we really need in Dwayne Bowe to take us to next level

    With Harvin and AP we are almost only squeezing out small plays.

  27. By johnny on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Before the season right up untill midseason, Our biggest need was a Wr. Now that we know we dont have a quality starting Qb( webb and MB7 i dont know much about since we wont start them!). Should we draft a QB in the first round. Say a Quarterback like Geno smith or Tyler wilson fall to us, SHould we draft them? Wich is a bigger need, a Wr or a Qb? i say Qb. Our recievers arent nearly as bad as people make em out to be. We have quality recivers in Harvin, Wright, Childs, Simpson and aromashudu. Greg childs might become a true #1 when he comes back healthy and simpson is a solid #2 WHEN hes healthy(hes not a 100% + some drops and Ponder have made him look worser than he is) Its true we should still draft a #1 deepthreat reciever in the draft (Justin hunter) but all am saying is that ponders noodle arm and weak deep ball really took away potential Deep plays made by these recievers. Look at fitzgerald rotting away in Arizona. Go ahead abd blame him ponder apoligists. Say that hes not creating seperation! i dare you!. Honestly, a Qb makes his Receivers look great. We need a QB in minnesota.

  28. By rory from n.w.ark on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Doesnt anyone believe in miracles anymore, I still do being a loyal fan ,Ponder gets two T.D. and has a good decision day A.P. gets 148 and we win 31 to 17 ,defense has a stellar game…getting two picks one for six come on fans We are going to beat the Rams ,because we can …I love our VIKINGS…..

  29. By Ozzinator on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    And maybe Mistral Raymond gets another tackle!

  30. By lance on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    too bad jefferson was injured because his last two games were not horrible. He was getting much better! and remember he didnt spend an offseason with us and also was aquired during the season. He has developed as a good back upf or cook. Now everyone is talking about the other scrub CB’s we have but I feel maybe we should let Blanton be a cb this game. The dude is pretty good! played well at safety when H smith was ejected… and he did play CB throughout his college carrier. I think he may give us a better chance with winfield and Jrob

  31. By Parkway on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Definitely not Geno Smith, unfortunately it sounds like Ponder and Frazier have another year next year

  32. By Vikings1 on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    @By lance on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply
    I for one cannot disagree with you more about Jefferson, he looked terrible especially against the Bears, talking about the completion in the endzone for a TD. He couldn’t jump and didn’t know where the ball was and the pass was completed for a TD. This was exactly the knock against him and the reason Arizona let him go, he is an average CB at best!!

  33. By Parkway on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    I’m starting to think we just might go Ogletree (LB) and s williams (DT) in the first and second rounds. We would probably have the best D in the league but an anemic offense still

  34. By wacky on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    i think we should play webb in the next 3-games… webb speed and big arm could change how teams play us. we can’t win with ponder!!! PONDER IS NOT A NFL QB!! COACHING STAFF PLEASE OPEN YOUR EYES!!!!!!

  35. By Ootsa Jimmy on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Here is what needs to happen. Direct snap every play to Adrian then Geerhart. Keep doing that the entire game. Put our next biggest guys to block in the receiver positions. F U C K the pass…

  36. By Ootsa Jimmy on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Oh I forgot…..have ponder return punts and kickoffs. lmao
    that should take care of him ever returning

  37. By john 61 on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    you think ponders arm is bad now,wait till we start playing out side for 2 years

  38. By Kenric on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder has the ability to get hot and the only thing that matters is how hot he can get down the stretch. I’d like to see us give the ball to Peterson to attract everyone and do the flee flicker back to Ponder and use Peterson as a blocker on those plays. Sounds like we will need all the blocking we can get coming up. And I want to see some quick slants up the middle on first down. If we can get some more passing going to stretch the field we all know what Peterson could do with that on our run plays!

  39. By JSnyd on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    I agree that Ponder has had trouble with deciding where to throw it. That being said your comments about Ponder are very emotional and have not one once of logic! Besides Percy and Kyle R. Name one wr or te you would pick for your sons flag football team! That’s right they wouldn’t make the cut, so cut your remarks till we have some real nfl targets to throw to!

  40. By Assassin on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Make the Rams remember the Minnesota Vikings sign the Assassin.

  41. By SmileyStar on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    @JSnyd. I wouldn’t pick or wish ponder to be QB of my son’s flag football team or anyone else’s team.

    @Kenric What game has Ponder showed the ability he can get hot?

  42. By Otto on Dec 13, 2012 | Reply

    The problem with Ponder is he gets scared in the pocket and is terrified to take a hit. He want’s to scramble or get rid of the ball before anything develops. As for the picks, I recall someone saying at the start of the year when he had no turnovers, “wait till he throw’s his first pick” and that is exactly what happened. At the moment he does not have the confidence to play that this level. I say get rid of that red jersey at practice, play live, and hit the SOB until he gets used to it. Worst thing that can happen is he get injured and they start someone else.

  43. By Kathy P on Dec 13, 2012 | Reply

    I agree with you on some aspects Otto. He does looked scared alot of the time. He doesn’t step up and plant his feet to throw and there has been adequate time allowed for some of them. We don’t need/want a “scared QB”on our team. If he can’t man-up and perform his role on this team then they truly need to address this. Otherwise, how many yrs. are we going to have to wait again before this team looks like a playoff contender? AND, I dont agree with the poster who suggests that AP block for Ponder to throw!! No way would I put AP in that situation only to get possibly injured by doing that. If you want someone to block for Ponder then put someonelse in to do the work, if there is anyone to do that. Loadholdt is a big joke. He should have been traded last yr. How many times did he jump offside last week against the Bears? And he is supposed to be a “seasoned veteran”? He better man-up this Sunday or Ponder is going to be on his arse more than on his feet.

  44. By autobon7 on Dec 13, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder brings NOTHING to the table. Excpet excusses. Play Webb….at least he is a threat to score with his legs.

  45. By autobon7 on Dec 13, 2012 | Reply

    I promise you that Joe Webb would not throw any worse than Ponder. Even if he put up the same numbers as Ponder he at least brings a huge run threat to the game. Face it folks…..all we are asking Ponder to do is hand off to AP (Webb can do that), throw bubble screens (Webb can do that), occasionally throw 20 yards (Webb can do that). Webb can take it to the house with his legs (Ponder can’t do that), Webb is a natural leader (Ponder like to text his GF). A message to the Staff…..pride can be a terrible thing when you allow it to disrupt rational thinking……such as accepting the fact that your 12th over all pick will NEVER be a quality starting QB.

  46. By Gilberator on Dec 13, 2012 | Reply

    Johnny. A good O-line makes an offense look great. Tom Brady can catch up with the daily news inside the pocket. Cutler could be 50X better if they had a decent pass block. Drafting a QB in the first round would be stupid. This was a rebuild year. Draft o-line, WR, LB, CB, S. Not necessarily in that order but what we need to do is build around Ponder. If we get a solid performing WR and a good pass blocker, Ponder should improve. If he doesnt, then its time to move on. A lot of first round QBs become nothing. Its too risky considering we have 3 young qbs on this team already. With the best RB in the league, a hard-working, consistent deep threat and a good defense we can win more than 10 games next year. We are on the right track. Id rather have a good team and work on the QB position than have a sub-par team and using up draft picks on QBs every year. Also, the QBs coming out of this years draft dont look all that impressive.

  47. By Gilberator on Dec 13, 2012 | Reply

    autobon7- Webb is not the answer. Why must all of you think he is! We wouldn’t have Ponder right now if Webb was that good. Ill tell you whats happening. The combination of Ponder’s mistakes and the WR/Offensive line mistakes makes all the Vikings fans Ponder naysayers. Why don’t we fix whats around him and THEN evaluate him. Hes got no time to throw in most cases and that leads to his WR not getting open. There is no star WR on this team besides Harvin. Thats not good enough. These guys have got to step up. Im not saying ponder is amazing, far from it, but with time I think he could be a good QB. Wouldn’t it be amazing if we just stuck with him and drafted for a better TEAM and became successful? Then we wouldn’t have wasted a 1st round pick. That would be a great thing. We are winning games still and if thats not good enough, you guys need to change your outlook. Vikings are already 4 games above their season win projection. Webb is a leader? Who do you even know that? How does he lead this team? I like Webb alot but c’mon man! Are you four?

  48. By Gilberator on Dec 13, 2012 | Reply

    Kathy P-I agree for the most part and you said it yourself. Loadholt IS a joke. He has ruined drives many times. Everyone besides Sullivan and Kalil are jokes most of the time. Thats why Ponder looks scared or perhaps bewildered that his lineman cant block more than 4 seconds! Evaluate this offense. Peterson gets the ball, our team is ready to get him yardage. Ponder gets the ball, sub-par receivers try to get open, lineman crumble while ponder tries to get it off. Yes, sometimes Ponder has plenty of time in the pocket to throw and sometimes there are receivers wide open waving at him but if we can improve the positions around him, I feel it will create better chances for Ponder to prove himself. By the way, im just discussing im not bashing anybody at all. Just trying to stick my opinion and ideas out there like the rest of you. Just figured i would mention that :)

  49. By haedter7 on Dec 13, 2012 | Reply

    Reguardless if Joe Webb is playing qb or not the guy needs to be on the field. He is the best athlete on our team. If you ask me he should be playing the exact same positon as Percy. Going deep, running, basic routes ,going in motion, taking bubble screens, a few plays at wildcat here and there. At least give other teams something to prepare for other than AP and Rudy. Before kapernick was the starter for San Fran he got plays in the red zone. Why cant we do that with Joe?? Imagine how much better our running game(and our passing game for that matter) would be if we had another guy on the field who could score(running or throwing) at any moment. Thats just me. Unfortunately not Frazier/Musgrave.

  50. By Gilberator on Dec 13, 2012 | Reply

    haedter7-I agree Joe should be put into the game. I was an early advocate for Webb to be put in the WR position but it doesn’t make sense now with him being a QB for so long. He would have to learn a different position and that just doesn’t make sense
    . Wildcat plays or trick plays like that would be a great idea.

  51. By northwoodsv2 on Dec 13, 2012 | Reply

    We tried plays with Webb as a WR last year. The fact that nobody remembers that is testament to his WR abilities.

    Allow me to refresh – he was targetted 5 times, with 1 (one) reception for a total of 9 yards.

  52. By autobon7 on Dec 13, 2012 | Reply

    northwoodsv2 … Webb being targeted 5 times is enough for you to judge whether or not he is suited for that position? If that’s the case Ponder should have been gone long ago.

    Gilberator…..Did you see any of the games last year when Ponder went out and Webb came in? If you did not I encourage you to find them on the internet, watch them without distraction and post back here. If at that point you still believe that he does not display leadership skills then we will have to agree to disagree. Even when he came into the Eagles game 2 years ago…..a frozen field, not planning on playing as we had the great BF throwing at the time, BF gets knocked out, Webb comes in and leads us to a victory against a very good Eagles team.

  53. By autobon7 on Dec 13, 2012 | Reply

    I’m not saying that Webb is the next Steve Young or Fran Tarkington but I do believe he is an upgrade over Ponder.

  54. By wacky on Dec 13, 2012 | Reply

    chant for webb!!!!!!!!!!!!

  55. By stlfan on Dec 13, 2012 | Reply

    What pessimism! It almost makes me think the Rams will win! :)

  56. By 4eversteve on Dec 13, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder I think still needs more time to develop, that being said I think that Joe Webb is hurting himself and the team by not embracing the idea of possibly playing WR position or at least being a decoy out there, giving defensive coordinators somethings else to worry about Yes I saw the post about his stats as a receiver. I still contend he is in the mind set that he will be a starting QB in the NFL and is not willing to use his God given ability to play receiver. In my opinion he is closing the door on his NFL career very quickly. Carrying around a clip board for the entire season isn’t exactly going to make him a hot commodity when he does become a free agent and allow him to command a very lucrative contract. Here’s and idea for Mr. Webb do what ever it takes to get your but on the field and contribute to the team, or the NFL as Gerry Granville put it can also mean “Not- For -Long” as far as your career goes . I believe Webb could be a top receiver in this league, but is of the mind set that he is a QB and not willing to put forth the effort needed to show the team he is a good receiver and that to me is very sad because it could be cost him his NFL career in the end!

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