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The Forgotten Phase: Vikings Special Teams Group Key In Sunday’s Win

Posted by Mike Wobschall on December 11, 2012 – 7:17 am

Special teams is often the forgotten about phase of football. But it’s been hard to miss the Vikings special teams performance this season, especially with the Vikings being just one of eight teams with both a punt return and kickoff return TD and with rookie K Blair Walsh ready to set the team rookie scoring mark and already having set a team single-season touchback record.

In Sunday’s win over the Chicago Bears, a team known for having spectacular special teams play annually, it was the Vikings special teams group that continued to make a difference.

Walsh continued to execute well on kickoffs. He’s already proven to have a powerful leg with 41 touchbacks through 13 games. But now the Vikings are displaying some variety in their kickoff game plan by asking Walsh to put some hang time on his kickoffs so the coverage team can run down and tackle returners inside the 20. The Vikings executed that plan to perfection on Sunday, keeping Bears kickoff returner Eric Weems from crossing the 20-yardline on all 4 of his attempts.

Speaking of keeping teams inside the 20, Vikings P Chris Kluwe did just that twice on Sunday. In fact, his 2 punts inside the 20 were downed at the 5 and the 3. The Bears were forced to punt after 6 plays on one of those drives and then turned the ball over on downs on the other series. Kluwe had 7 punts on the afternoon, and 5 of them were returned by the ever-dangerous Devin Hester. But Hester was not dangerous on Sunday. He did surpass his season average for punt returns, but he wasn’t able to break off a long enough return to flip the field position, which he’s done so many times against the Vikings over the years.

When all was said and done, Chicago’s average drive start was their own 21, and their average drive start after a kickoff was their own 14. When Special Teams Coordinator Mike Priefer’s group puts up numbers like that, it puts Defensive Coordinator Alan Williams’ and Offensive Coordinator Bill Musgrave’s group in better position to succeed.


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132 Responses to “The Forgotten Phase: Vikings Special Teams Group Key In Sunday’s Win”

  1. By vikingbob136 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    I say we draft Marcus Lattimore in the 4th or 5th round next year.If he can rehab like AP, we could have our future halfback when he heals.

  2. By MuskyFever on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    OK, but do you want to put all of your eggs into someones basket that has a bad knee??? There is no one out there like AP. I like lattimore, but I think that would be a poor decision bi Spielman

  3. By VikingFanatic209 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    especially since Gerhart has highly fresh legs as well…..i want to see 2 or 3 players that come in and make an impact next year like Josh Robinson Matt Kalil and Harrison Smith have all done this year not to mention Blair Walsh.

  4. By VikingFanatic209 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    6:05 am Pacific time

  5. By vikingbob136 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    That’s why i said 4th or 5th and not 2nd or 3rd round,We know he would sit for a year like Willis McGahee did. Have to plan for the future.
    Trojans WR Lee in the 1st round.

  6. By Ootsa Jimmy on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    We need Brett Farve back. He still has 2 more seasons left in him

  7. By MuskyFever on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    2 More seasons??? How bout like 10 or even 20 More. I bet at 60 Years old Brett can still throw further than Ponder can right now… LOL

  8. By MuskyFever on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Brett Favre is invincable

  9. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    lets give Brett Farve a call, he can win the last 4 games easy. trade Ponder off to the arena league

  10. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    let Ponder Practice is the practice squad for a few years, than trade him off

  11. By MuskyFever on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Don’t disrespect the practice squead like that… HAHAHAHA!!!!

    how about the CFL. I here they are always looking for the next thing the NFL throws away.

  12. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder doesn’t have the arm for the CFL either.

  13. By die hard 67 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    MOST of the fans on this blog are a joke………… negative fairweather fans………

  14. By vikingfanforlife on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Now that we know the weakness of the Texans we can devise a brilliant plan with our coaching staff to defeat them. All with our stellar quarterback play. Hmmm.. Ponder needs to have a Tom Brady kind of day. I hope he can do it.

  15. By haedter7 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    I say next year we trade Toby for draft picks and sign Brandon Jacobs. He will be fairly cheap and probably the healthiest hes ever been. Imagine that running game !!!!

  16. By northwoodsv2 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    SOME of the fans on this blog are a joke…………blind optimistic apologists………

    A fairweather fan is someone who only roots for a team when they win.

    EVERYBODY on this blog (except for the idiotic packer fans that come on here to stir the pot) wants the Vikings to win, hence, rooting for the team.

  17. By VikingFanatic209 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    I thought that 2 for awhile but now i see Ponder for what he is and really its not his fault. The vikings organization are the ones who reached for him and made him the 12th overall pick. The main thing that i am concerned about is the lack of progression on the field. I’m just not seeing him make progress And calling it like it is…….he has lost this team more games this year than he has one. And if your just gonna be a game manager you cant turn the ball over like he has this year and also you have to have the ability to throw the deep ball and make the throws to move the chains consistently……..and as a 1st rounder you gotta be expecting this guy to do more than be a game manager….we drafted this guy to be a game changer and that he is not…….well unless you count it for the opposing team…and that is from a die hard Vikings fan…..I’ve been thru quite a few seasons with this team and have experienced a fair amount of success followed by a whole lotta heartache…..there is plenty of upside on this current roster but even after a good team win against a tough divisional opponent you can’t not see a tremendous flaw on this team in their passing offense and I’m not saying Ponder is the only problem…i know losing Percy Harvin was a huge blow to this offense and that along with below average receivers and a suspect offensive line when it comes to the pass (aside from maybe Sully and Kalil) = 1 of the worst passing attacks in the NFL alongside the Jets and the Jags and that’s just flat out unacceptable!. So Mr. Diehard if that makes me, along with these other guys “fairweather fans” in your eyes then i guess that means your satisfied with our horrible, pathetic sorry excuse for a passing game….other than Rudy of course.

  18. By MuskyFever on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    @ Die Hard 67…

    Are you stating that there is no possible way that we can be Vikings fans and not be Ponder fans? Because I am a Baltimore fan and have been my whole life… But Flacco drives my NUTZ!!!! I always bleed purple, always have and always will. When Favre came here I still thought of him as a Packer. It took alomost the whole first year for me to start to like Favre, just based on who he played for..

    Am I a Vikings Fan??? Yep, have been my whole life, never faultered.

    Is Ponder a good QB??? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!!!!!!!

  19. By Parkway on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Did someone seriously suggest drafting another RB…… we have AP signed for another 5 years for a hundred mill, so let’s not even consider drafting a backup for at least 3 years.

  20. By VikingFanatic209 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    this passing offense is a Joke………..don’t believe me I just heard a joke about the passing offense on NFL AM in regards to the Vikings being in the playoff hunt and might have to TRY to throw the ball down the stretch because every week AP has more yards than Ponder.

  21. By Troutdaddy on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    I am not going to bash Ponder this week. I decided that our QB situation is not going to change and when our team gets a win then you can’t fault anyone for their role in getting that win. A win is a win and that my friends is what we want the Vikes to do- regardless of our feeling about the QB. The fact that we still have very winable games left gives us opportunity to finish strong. Houston showed their true colors yesterday and Green Bay is struggling. We should have beat them the first time and now we have an opportunity to get after them at home. The Rams are not going to be an easy team either. Our defense is going to have to be sharp and we WILL have to throw the ball in this game a little more. Our receives have some great mis-matches. Wright and Simpson are faster and if we use Rudolph for the middle then we will have the edge. Along with Peterson and his unstoppableness, this should be a good game to watch and hopefully where we go to 8 and 6. I also think our D is going to get a few more turn-overs. Smith and Robison could have a filed day if we can pressure the QB a bit. Still waiting for Audie Cole to make an appearance…. PleaseO PleaseO???

  22. By Tampavike on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    hmmmm…..I’m a diehard Vikings fan!!! Have been for over 40 years!!!! I live in the Tampa area and almost cried when we drafted CP!!!! People down here love him, of course they love Tim Tebow too (that doesn’t say much IMO). I couldn’t believe we didn’t wait till the second round to pick up Mallet.

    Maybe we could trade Ponder to the JETS!!! They seem to like QB’s that can’t throw.

    I have endured two 3 and 13 seasons, one with Steckel and one with Frazier. Also, I still have a sour taste in my mouth from our 15 and 1 season blown up by Atlanta.

    Please, Please get us a QB!!!!!! Good QB,s make average WR’s better….look at what Farve did and Manning too!

    SKOL VIKINGS

  23. By liito on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    1. Overall, the special teams are not a problem for the Vikes.
    2. It would be nice to hear from the wide receivers’ coach and a follow-up interview with the quarterbacks’ coach.
    3. How long does Ponder practice with the wide receivers?
    4. We pray and hope of getting into the playoffs. We dream of a championship. We pray for a miracle for a Super Bowl win. Okay, back to reality . . . WE RATIONALIZE THAT IT IS A SUCCESSFUL VIKING SEASON BECAUSE WE WERE 3-13 LAST SEASON. Is that it?

  24. By Parkway on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    You know it’s sad when we haven’t had a blog all season on how good Ponder is.

  25. By Tampavike on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    @ Parkway

    Ponder’s longest completion Sunday went for 16 yards. He finished with 91 passing yards, marking the third game this season that Ponder failed to reach triple digits.

    That’s how good he is!!!

  26. By Tampavike on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    now you’ve had your blog….LOL

  27. By MuskyFever on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    It is, however, unfortenate that Houston showed their trus colors in the P@SSING game.. so its to bad we don’t have one. Theyu pretty much stuffed the run. As much as I don’t like Ponder I also don’t want anyone to get hurt. Houston and MR. JJ Watt scare me a little bit.

    JJ Watt was getting through to Brady A LOT last night. Think of what he is going to do to us and POnder when we drop back to throw. Obviously they are not going to let Ponder throw 40 times like Brady. But still if he throws 10 times, I bet JJ Watt will be in the back field on 5 of those

  28. By Tomcat on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    As of now, the last thing we need is another rb. Toby would easily top 1000 yards if we had to start him. The other kid (whose name escapes me) is promising as well. We would be better served drafting more wr`s,ol help, lb`s, cb`s and maybe another qb.

  29. By Mike B. on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    I still think you all should be looking beyond Ponder and to the mistakes maybe by the OL letting the Bears get after Ponder during the game. Hard to have a p@ssing attack if you trying to find a lane to p@ss in. The team on a whole is not play at playoff calibre. They did just enough on Sunday to win the game. That doesn’t say much for Greenbay or Chicago though also. They are not going to go deep in the playoffs if they are playing as poorly as they are now.

  30. By Shawn on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Bill Billichick

    1st season … 6-10

    2nd season … 7-9

    3rd season … 7-9

    5th season … 5-11

    6th season … 5-11

  31. By CaribooBill on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    We added another TE to practice squad yesterday – LaMark Brown – anybody know anything about him?

  32. By Parkway on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Tom Brady seemed to do just fine last night with the defense in his face :)

  33. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    PAY PERCY

  34. By Parkway on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    I posted highlights of him already bill

  35. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    The ENTIRE passing offense is terrible. Not just Ponder.

  36. By CaribooBill on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Thanks Parkway – I missed it.

  37. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    By vikingbob136 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    I say we draft Marcus Lattimore in the 4th or 5th round next year.If he can rehab like AP, we could have our future halfback when he heals.
    ___________________________

    Very solid idea…It is very obvious…It is the running game that feeds this Vikings machine…And though the need for a RB with having AP around and doing great…You never know when Gerhart might ask to be traded from lack of playing time…And also being in his prime maybe he is looking to start for another team somewhere ???…

    Lattimore in a later 4th or 5th round selection makes a lot of sense…Then he would have at least one season to sit and learn from AP (on and off the field…after having reconstructive knee surgery himself)…Before being needed to even get any real game action in…

    Kathy P…

    Awesome idea about bringing in Fitzgerald !!!…I have ben giving hat a LOT of thought also !!!…Fitz is getting frustrated in Arizona…Here a some reasons Fitz would have such a huge impact on this young Vikings team…

    1…He is a reat veteran receiver…With plenty of talent…

    2…Ponder can just as easily be mentored by a veteran receiver (like Reggie Wayne has for Luck) as a veteran QB…

    3…Harvin does not listen well to Frazier or Musgrave…But looks up too veteran receivers like Fitz and Moss…Didn’t Fitz also ask Harvin to his personal mini camp he as each off season ???…So not only could Fitz be a mentor to Ponder…He could fill that role a little with Harvin also…

    4… Ponder got together a lot last off season with Rudolf…You can bet if Fitz joined the team…Fitz would be there training with Rudolf and Ponder…Getting the Vikings passing game worked out…

    5….Would Favre like to come in and help at QB & WR’s coach ???…With Ponder, Fitz, Harvin, Childs, and Wright at WR…And Rudolf at TE…

    6… Ponder has already stated he would love some advice from Favre…

    7…Would Harvin be easier to sign…Knowing a WR like Fitz was coming in to help the passing game ???….

    I personally like your ideas vikingbob 136 and Kathy P….A lot !!!…

  38. By Mike B. on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Parkway are you trying to compare Brady to Ponder? Come on. Fraizer’s game plan is never going to provide 42 points of offense. Ponder is play to what the coaches are asking him to do. Besides we don’t have the WR NE has.

  39. By vikingbob136 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t want Brandon Jacobs. He only has a year at most left and has a bad attitude. You can never have enough RB’s. Lattimore in the 4th or 5th round. Trade Gerhart for a 3rd rounder. He’s collecting dust on the sideline and wasting his prime years here.

  40. By Mike B. on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Honestly I don’t think Farve would want to help the Vikings as a retired player. I am thinking he’s probably in mending fences with Green Bay so he can get his deserved honors with that team. Helping the Vikings would just add more salt to an open wound between him and the Packers Org.

  41. By Immure on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    By haedter7 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    I say next year we trade Toby for draft picks and sign Brandon Jacobs. He will be fairly cheap and probably the healthiest hes ever been. Imagine that running game !!!!
    __________________________________________________________________

    I imagine it would be the same as this years running game with A.P. getting the majority of the carries. Jacobs just got suspended by his team for complaining about playing time. It would be no different if he came here.

  42. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry for the spelling in that last post…

    That is what I get for trying to talk on the phone….
    And trying to write a post at the same time…: (

  43. By Mike B. on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Isn’t Gerhart still on a rookie contract. so keeping him makes sense?

  44. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Trade Gerhart and a 3rd round pick, even up for Fitzgerald….

  45. By Immure on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    I would love to have Fitz on the team but can we really afford to have his contract, A.P.’s contract and still be able to sign Harvin?

  46. By Parkway on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6880867/arizona-cardinals-re-sign-larry-fitzgerald-eight-years-120-million

    Why would you possibly think Fitz would come and/or we would want to trade for him AND pay that ridiculous salary?

  47. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    If we are going to take a WR in the first round. Why not just trade that pick and a couple late round picks for Fitz?

  48. By Tomcat on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    OTKal- Now that would definitely make sense, but it takes two to tango.

  49. By northwoodsv2 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is doing what the coaches expect him to be doing, which is essentially nothing but hand the ball off, and make a rare 5-10 yard throw.

    Translation, the coaches do not trust him.

    Do we really want a QB that the coaches don’t trust leading our offense?

  50. By Parkway on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Yeah why not see if we can get megatron too? Maybe Andre Johnson for a backup 3rd WR?

  51. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    What if Harvin has already asked for a trade behind closed doors…

    Fitz is originally from Minnesota…

    Most money paid on big contracts are the guaranteed portion of the contract…The part of the contract the Cards paid already…

    There are plenty of reasons to consider Fitzgerald…

  52. By northwoodsv2 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    GDP – I would love to have Fitz on the team, but our problem isn’t how do we acquire him, it’s how do we afford his contract?

  53. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Jake Long?

  54. By Tomcat on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Funny stuff, Parkway!

  55. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Easy, cut Jenkins Shudo and Carlson.

  56. By vikingbob136 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Fitzgerald has his ties to Minn (Chris Carter) but he loves the weather in Arizona.
    His son also lives in Arizona and does not ant to uproot him.
    His contract is huge and we couldn’t afford to pay Percy if we actually did sign Fitz.
    Draft Lee from USC. He would be 8-9 years younger and he might not break the bank.

  57. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Whats so funny..

    .Parkway opening up his mouth again…And saying nothing ???

  58. By vikingbob136 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    @ OTK
    Thanks for backing me on Lattimore. If he can recover, he is going to be a star.You heard it hear first.

  59. By Tomcat on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    We should definitely scour the FA market for wr`s in addition to the draft since rookie wr`s are so iffy.

  60. By Tomcat on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    The cap would surely be a stumbling block in the way of getting Fitz.

  61. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    By vikingbob136 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    @ OTK
    Thanks for backing me on Lattimore. If he can recover, he is going to be a star.You heard it hear first.

    _____________

    You make that easy to do vikingbob…Because you know quite a bit about football…

  62. By Shawn on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Rookie WRs … generally dont do well unless they are freaks. Like Moss, Megatron, or similar.

    It usually takes a WR a full year and on average year three before they become who they will be.

    That’s why I say use our first round pick on a vet WR trade. Mike Wallace, Dwayne Bowe.

    Then take a QB in round 2 and another WR in round 3.

    I used to want Monte Teo but after the last few games its clear Jasper IS NOT the weakest link. I am a firm believer in strengthening your weakness … so I guess I will let the Teo dream go.

    Even though a great MLB in a cover 2 makes a world of difference … just see Bears with Urlacher and without Urlacher …

  63. By Parkway on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Then I’m thinking we go out and get Brady as our 2nd string QB, and P. Manning as our emergency 3rd. It should really work out well for us.

  64. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    By Tomcat on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    The cap would surely be a stumbling block in the way of getting Fitz.

    ________________

    Players in frustrating situations, like Fitz in Arizona…Will sometimes “restructure” their contracts to move to another team…And take a small pay cut…Or make it last for more years…

    Many ways to restructure contracts…

  65. By vikingbob136 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Thanks OTK
    42 years a Viking fan with no second favorite team and all that other silliness
    It’s purple or no one else for me.

  66. By Tomcat on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    OTKal- Very true.We haven`t had a wr of that caliber since Carter and Moss.

  67. By Parkway on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    “It is an honor,” he said. “I am so fortunate. Not many players have that opportunity but Michael has allowed me that opportunity and I just want to repay him with great effort and winning. That is what is important.”

    I’m sure he’s not going to slap the Cardinals in the face after they give him that big of contract and leave 2 years later. Never going to happen.

  68. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Arizona has been searching for a solid RB for years…

    And still do not have good RB…But have always had a knack at drafting solid receivers…

    Vikings have been trying to draft a solid WR for years…Ever since Moss left…(though Percy is a great slot receiver)…

    And are still searching for a solid WR…(Wright is a slot receiver also)….

    But the Vikings have been solid drafting RB’s…

    Just saying…Why not combine some talent from both football worlds…

    Gerhart would be a huge help to the Cardinal running game…
    Plus a Viking 3rd round pick…

    And Fitz would be huge for Minnesota…

    Its just an idea fans !!!….

    I am not Rick Spieman or a GM…And I do not pretend to be one in real life…

    But I think its only fair to warn you….

    I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night !!!…lol…

  69. By MuskyFever on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    I also would like to see Fitz come here…

    But one of the reasons that Fitz is frusterated in ARI is their lack of passing offense. Like most WR’s he wants the ball in his hands. Though he is more humble than a lot of guys out there, does not mean that his stats don’t reflect his pay…

    So I ask you… Why would Fitz want to come here?? We are only going to make that aspect of his career worse. The vikings have shown me nothing that says we will be a passing offense in the next 3 to 5 years.

    As said, I would love if he came here. But there is the money standpoint I don’t think we can afford, and I honestly believe that he wouldn’t come here given the chance

  70. By Parkway on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t think Wallace would be the answer either if Ponder is QB, we would need a big physical WR who can go up and make plays to get Ponder’s lob p@sses

  71. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    By Tomcat on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    OTKal- Very true.We haven`t had a wr of that caliber since Carter and Moss

    _____________________

    There is another good idea !…Why not have C Carter come in and help Childs and Wright (and whomever the Vikings pickin the draft) for a few weeks this spring…

    Just to give those young receivers some veteran pointers…

  72. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe we can trade Gerhart and a pick and bring in Floyd from the Cardinals. Spielman loves those Notre Dame players.

  73. By northwoodsv2 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    “Easy, cut Jenkins Shudo and Carlson.”

    And where would we come up with the remaining $95million to buy Fitz? Plus the money for the contracts of the 2 additional active roster players besides him? And Percy’s money?

    As much as I’d like him on the team, we simply can’t afford any FA talent. That’s WHY we ended up with Jenkins, Shodu, and Carlson……and Johnson…….and Jefferson……

  74. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    “we simply cant afford any FA talent.”

    Good. Build this team through the draft like the two best franchises in the history of the league do, the Steelers & Packers. Unless we are stealing Cris Carter for a Benjamin I dont want to see us sign any FAs. Build through the draft by selecting the Best Player Available.

  75. By Frederick Jones on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Joe Webb has all the makings of a future star in the NFL. Not many people know that Joe was a member of the National Honor Society (NHS) while in high school. Everyone talks about how smart Ponder is, what about Joe.

    He could be the next Kurt Warner who had to work at HY-VEE for sometime before he was suddenly discovered, and had the best year a QB ever had up to that point.

    Joe is tall, has big hands, can run, jump, and is a great thinker on the football field. Kfan made the statement that it’s not how many MBAs you have as a QB. You must be able to make quick decisions. You must know where to throw the ball, and when.

    You must know how hard to throw the b@ll.
    Joe Webb can do all those things for ya!!!

  76. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    BPA got us Moss, Peterson, Harvin, Rudolph. Drafting on need got us Troy Williamson, T-Jack, The Pond.

    Build through draft. Best Player Available!

    PAY PERCY.

  77. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    NO FAs!

    PAY PERCY

  78. By Frederick Jones on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Here is a point of trivia for you. Tom Brady was drafted on the 6th round, pick 199.
    Joe Webb was picked on the 6th round, pick 199.

    DO NOT WRITE JOE WEBB OFF!!!

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  79. By die hard 67 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    I was talking to a local sportscaster at the gym today , we are from wi and he is a packer fan andI am a Viking fan for the record. He was covering the Viking Packer game and was in apress box and hesaid there was absolutely no receiver open all day until garbage time. Get off Ponders ass we have the worst receiving corp in Viking history…………………….

  80. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Could a trade Happen with Harvin and Fitz ???…

    We have another slot receiver in Wright…

    And both players are frustrated and might want new teams ???…

    Fitz could be one of our true outside WR’s…Wright our slot receiver…

    And Harvin could do utility slot WR and kick returns at Arizona…Even play some RB…

    And if Percy was traded…We could afford Fitzgeralds contract…

    Thoughts ???…

  81. By Vikings1 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Saw on NFL Network that the Wilfs have given Frazier thumbs up as the coach, so you Frazier haters will have to get use to him being the coach for now, however, in my opinion, some changes will have to be made in the off season for this team to get better, just saying!

  82. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    OTK I would do it in a heartbeat.

  83. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    The only reason I would do it is because the Commish wants to take Kickoffs out of the game.

  84. By Frederick Jones on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Marcus Sherels is the quickest player the Vikings have. What’s wrong with that?

  85. By die hard 67 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Frederick Jones , Webb is an awful qb .Wake up son. He is an outstanding athlete who shoudl be playing wr , what a waste of talent, but if you honestly think he could be a star qb your dillusional and need to snap out of it……….

  86. By Frederick Jones on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    @die hard 67,

    Sports reporters are wrong as often as the average fan!

  87. By Frederick Jones on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    @die hard 67,

    Did you notice we posted at almost the same time. No way were you thinking about my most recent post.

  88. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    By Frederick Jones on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Marcus Sherels is the quickest player the Vikings have. What’s wrong with that?
    _________

    Fred…OTKALIL loves little Sherels…You know that…

    Mr Sure Hands…

    Catches the ball and never fumbles…And always runs forward… ; )

  89. By Frederick Jones on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    @die,

    Webb has not even played this year. Perhaps we should write him off WHEN WE HAVE SEEN HIM ON THE FIELD???

  90. By Frederick Jones on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Kalil,

    Sherels is one of the young players we will ride to the title some day. He is smart, and has common sense. He is quick more than fast, yet he is fast. He is getting stronger every year.

    At 5-10, he could get to 190, and be great defensive back for the Vikings, if he isn’t already.

  91. By die hard 67 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Theres a reason for that he is worse than Ponder…..

  92. By Parkway on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    LOL@Webb haters. #unjustified

  93. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Fred…

    And outside of Winfield…I think Sherels is the best tackling CB the Vikings have on our roster…

  94. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Webb needs to be on the field, QB or receiver he needs to be on the field.

  95. By die hard 67 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Fred , are you serious right now , you are making some crazy statements..

  96. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    J-Rob is at least willing to make the tackle. He needs to get better in that area and he will.

  97. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Sherels is our punt returner and nothing else.

  98. By Vikings1 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    While we are discussing WR, why not see if Kareem Abdul-Jabar is available, at 7′ 1″, he might be tall enough to catch Ponder’s overthrows!

  99. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    I can’t be critical of Webb…I have not seen the guy play in a game for a year now ???…Webb may have learned plenty…

    Then so could have MBT in a new system ???…

    Only thing I have in memory to gage Webb…Was that game he played against the Eagles…He played well in that game…But remember little positives outside of that game…

    I do not count the Washington fiasco…That game had no meaning…That to me was nothing more than an extended preseason game…imo…

  100. By die hard 67 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    MBT to me looks like he has IT.Webb looked pathrtic in pre season , throws like a girl runs like a deer……..

  101. By Mike B. on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Fred They wrote off Webb when the drafted Ponder. I don’t think you will see Webb long in a Vikings Uniform.

  102. By Parkway on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    We might still be in a position in the draft where BPA is Hunter or Allen since we will have a late teen pick it looks like.

  103. By BlueBird7 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    We would most likely be more in the win section if Joe Webb had been QB.

    If Frazier would woken up in time, and replaced Mc-Ponder, we could have won .

    Any time Webb was put in to try to save games, he done better then Ponder!

    All you Webb haters, go suck eggs. Bounty Hunters! Open season again!

  104. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    By Mike B. on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Fred They wrote off Webb when the drafted Ponder. I don’t think you will see Webb long in a Vikings Uniform.

    ___________________

    I felt they wrote off using Webb…When they brought in McNabb….

  105. By BlueBird7 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B.

    One of the most vocal anti-Webb ones around.

    Now that it looks like it is OK for Bounty Hunters again, see who gets to your boy Ponder.

  106. By BlueBird7 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    There are some that would hunt for free.

  107. By BlueBird7 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    J.J. Watt will talk to him. No $$$ charge.

  108. By VikingFanatic209 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    hate to say it but i would let Percy go for a big body receiver that can stretch the field and out jump defenders and take my chances with Jarius Wright in the slot….but that said i’d sure rather keep Harvin and just draft a big receiver even if it took him a year to come along.Don’t get me wrong percy is awesome and multi talented but with ponder i think a big reciever would help him out kinda like how Rudy can go up and get it so he doesn’t have 2 put it in such tight windows since we all know accuracy can b an issue with him at times

  109. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    I guess some don’t understand what I mean…I don’t count the Washington game with Webb…

    Like I wouldn’t count stats in a Ponder game against the Texans in 2 weeks…

    If the Texans are in the playoffs and the number one seed already with home field advantage throw out…

    Because no matter if the Texans say they will be giving that game a full effort to win in that game ???…They truly wouldn’t be…

    So if Ponder had 380 yards and 4 TD’s…This fan really wouldn’t care…Because those stats would be meaningless to me…Because that game would not matter…That simple…

  110. By Mike B. on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    @ OTK good point about when they brought in McNabb. I don’t hate Webb at all he’s a good athlete, but doesn’t have the skill set to be a starting QB. He doesn’t look down all his receivers and is too quick to take off on the run. If he was the guy, he would have gotten his chance before they drafted Ponder or brought in McNabb. He is an adequate and inexpensive #2 QB.

  111. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    The forgotten phase? Huh? Wobbles where do you conjure these titles from?

  112. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Everyone with eyes and ears know it ain’t the QB who is winning these games.

  113. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Take away special teams and AD and how many wins would we have? Three?

  114. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    It is shameful to work AD so hard and after a surgery only to let games slip away for one team member. A SHAME! May have to call Gomer up to post– fer shame, fer shame!

  115. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    By Mike B. on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    @ OTK good point about when they brought in McNabb. I don’t hate Webb at all he’s a good athlete, but doesn’t have the skill set to be a starting QB. He doesn’t look down all his receivers and is too quick to take off on the run. If he was the guy, he would have gotten his chance before they drafted Ponder or brought in McNabb. He is an adequate and inexpensive #2 QB.

    __________

    The truth is…Many of those same agruements you mentioned about Webb…Stand true for Ponder…

    There just seems to be a point in all good QB’s careers….You see the game “slow down” for them….They stand in there that little bit longer to complete a pass, with the rush bearing down on them…When they don’t rush their reads down field….etc…

    Thats when you know your QB is starting to get it….

    Both Ponder or Webb are not there yet…And until they are…You never really know if they ever will ???…

    Only time will tell….

  116. By Mike B. on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    @OTK I don’t think Ponder is not seeing his open WR, but they aren’t getting open or doesn’t have confidence the WR can catch with coverage. He’s also getting hurried a lot when the OL is not giving him the time to set up. Like I have already said, I saw a lot of Bears in the backfield Sunday. I do see him making mistakes in judgement and not set up his throws properly. I don’t believe it is arm strength as I have seen him lazer in some p@sses. I do think he can be coached to be a better QB. When I look at problems on this team, I see a lot bigger picture than just the QB play. Just watching Marshall is very telling how lacking our WR core is. I respect eveyones comments, but I wish they would look at the team as a whole and see we aren’t ready for a playoff run. It’s unfortunate for AP, but it is what it is.

  117. By BlueBird7 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    OTK

    I was going to say the same thing about taking off to soon as M.B states.

    Didn’t know Ponder was wearing Webb’s nr. 14 when Ponder was dancing a jig.

    When Webb takes off, he doesn’t slide for 1 yard, Webb takes it in for Touchdowns!

  118. By Parkway on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Yes we aren’t ready for a playoff run because we would have at least 2 more wins of Ponder didn’t single-handedly lose us those games.

  119. By Parkway on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    *if not of

  120. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    By Mike B. on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    @OTK I don’t think Ponder is not seeing his open WR, but they aren’t getting open or doesn’t have confidence the WR can catch with coverage. He’s also getting hurried a lot when the OL is not giving him the time to set up. Like I have already said, I saw a lot of Bears in the backfield Sunday. I do see him making mistakes in judgement and not set up his throws properly. I don’t believe it is arm strength as I have seen him lazer in some p@sses. I do think he can be coached to be a better QB. When I look at problems on this team, I see a lot bigger picture than just the QB play. Just watching Marshall is very telling how lacking our WR core is. I respect eveyones comments, but I wish they would look at the team as a whole and see we aren’t ready for a playoff run. It’s unfortunate for AP, but it is what it is.

    ______

    I agree totally…

    There are to many positive to take out from this season…To try and dwell on few negatives…imo…

    Lets watch AP run !!!….That is what Frazier wants…And think that is what the team wants also !!!…

    This team is getting better and better…Frazier style !!!…Like it or not !!!…hahaha

    Go Vikings !!!!…

  121. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier should be coach of the year.

  122. By Parkway on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    And Ponder should be MVP

  123. By Mike B. on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Me thinks I is being mocked.

  124. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Exactly– you read my mind Parkway.

  125. By VikingFanatic209 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    was looking at our WR stats….aside from Harvin we have had 2 Tds by the entire unit thru 13 games thats pretty sad when Harrison Smith has scored just as much…….

  126. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    we have had a turnaround this year– be thankful people.

  127. By xvike on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    I have an offer for Ponder. I’ll buy him a flag football jersey for my team if he agrees to be our qb. Anyway, guys do get open. Ponder is just late on his reads and his timing. The only way he’ll throw the ball is if the receiver is wide open. Otherwise, he has been incapable of fitting the ball into tight windows. He’s done it a couple times, but i guarantee you every other qb in the league not named sanchez can do it, and they do it often.

  128. By Parkway on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    That sounds like a good offer xvike, I have to imagine you probably already have someone on your team who can throw better than Ponder though. I assume you just want him as an emergency QB?

  129. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Wobbs has up a new blog…

    Check what he has to say about all you w u s s y Ponder haters ??

    Woo hoo !!!…

    Go Wobbs !!!…

  130. By Daniel on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    Blair Walsh has to be in Hawai next year

  131. By BlueBird7 on Dec 11, 2012 | Reply

    OTK

    So I read it. Brought my sugar spoon with me in case he coated his Ponder BS.

  132. By Kathy P on Dec 12, 2012 | Reply

    Congrats to the special teams! They really stepped up this past week. I hope that they can continue to be that aggressive in the next three games. Im jumping ahead of the Rams game to the Houston game. I watched some of the NE/HOUSTON game the other night. Even though, Houston lost the game, I see that they can be a very dangerous team on both ends of the ball. Schaub throws “rockets/bullets” to his receivers alot. Their RB is very good as well. And, even though JJ Watts didnt get too much action in this game, he will for sure be after Ponder all game long when we play them. I’m not a nay-sayer, but if they bring it on to our team as much as they did in NE, and without any Offensive push from the Vikes other than AP, I dont know if this is a game we can win.

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