Revenge Is Sweet: Vikings Beat Bears 21-14

Posted by Mike Wobschall on December 9, 2012 – 4:33 pm

After nearly a month away from home, the Vikings returned to Mall of America Field on a snowy Minnesota Sunday and got back on the winning track. Using an early dose of Adrian Peterson and a heavy dose of defense, the Vikings powered their way to a 21-14 victory over the Chicago Bears, avenging a loss to their division rivals just two weeks ago at Soldier Field.

The Vikings got out of the gates gracefully, handing the ball to Peterson and watching him rip off a 51-yard gain on the first play of the game. Five plays later, Peterson plunged in from a yard out to put his team ahead 7-0. Then, five plays into the Bears ensuing drive, rookie CB Josh Robison picked off a Jay Cutler pass and returned it 49 yards for a TD, whipping the home crowd into a frenzy. Officials eventually overturned the TD, ruling that Robinson had stepped out of bounds at the Chicago 5, but Peterson took care of business on 3rd and goal from the 1 to put the Vikings ahead 14-0.

Peterson has been a near unstoppable force since returning from a knee injury in time for the season-opener against Jacksonville. And that continued to be the case on Sunday against Chicago, as he topped the 100-yard mark before the 1st quarter even ended. By halftime, Peterson had 125 yards rushing and 2 rushing TDs on 18 carries.

The Bears were able to add a Cutler-to-Alshon Jeffery TD late in the 1st half to make the score 14-7 as the teams headed for the locker rooms at intermission.

The teams exchanged two punts each to open the 2nd half, and that set the stage for the Vikings defense to strike once again. Facing a 3rd and 2 from his own 39, Cutler dropped back and threw a pass to his top target – Brandon Marshall. The pass sailed on Cutler, though, and rookie S Harrison Smith was there to collect the INT. Smith, a high school running back, used good vision and plenty of solid downfield blocking to weave his way to the end zone, tallying a 56-yard INT return TD to give his team a 21-7 lead.

Forced to come right back onto the field following the return TD, the Vikings defense surrendered a 36-yard run to Bears RB Matt Forte. A personal foul penalty against Jared Allen tacked on 15 more yards, and the Bears were set up with a 1st and 10 from the Vikings 34. But that’s all the further they would get, as the Vikings defense held from there and eventually forced a punt (thanks to a holding penalty against Chicago). The Vikings then embarked on a drive that didn’t result in a score, but took over 6 minutes off the clock. When Chicago got the ball back, they trailed by 14 with 9:13 to play.

Chicago turned the ball over on downs, forced a Vikings punt, and then scored a late TD on a pass from Jason Campbell to Brandon Marshall. Campbell came into the game to replace Cutler, who took a shot to the head from Vikings DE Everson Griffen on an earlier series. After the Marshall TD, the Bears attempted an onside kick. Vikings TE Kyle Rudolph recovered the desperation try, however, and the Vikings were able to kneel on the ball from there.

The win was a crucial one for the Vikings as they look to remain alive in the NFC playoff hunt. The Vikings now trail the Bears by one game in the NFC North standings and they’ll await tonight’s Packers-Lions game to see where they stand in relation to Green Bay. The win also moved the Vikings ahead of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who lost at home to the Philadelphia Eagles. Both the Dallas Cowboys and Washington Redskins also won on Sunday, so the Vikings were able to keep pace with both of those playoff-hopefuls as well.

Up next for the Vikings is a contest on the road against the St. Louis Rams, a team that also won on Sunday and is trying to keep its playoff hopes alive.

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319 Responses to “Revenge Is Sweet: Vikings Beat Bears 21-14”

  1. By purple08 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I just got off the phone with Christian Ponder and he says you are all a bunch of F’n A-holes!

  2. By purple08 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    First! Suckas

  3. By Richard1A on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Adrian is going to do it! NFL rushing record…broke….A.P. all the way, he has the talent to get it! I’m watching…..he deserves the title……

  4. By Parkway on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Ha no mention of Ponder

  5. By vikingmike on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Good win! Thanks to the D and A.P. Ive wanted to believe in Ponder but he did nothing today to show he’s an NFL QB. But big win none-the-less.

  6. By sleepy on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    A Win by the defense,is still a win

  7. By Spencer on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    If i was a reporter, Id ask coach Frazier, “coach, take away Peterson’s 154 yards and 2 scores, take away the 2 interceptions and the pick 6 by your stellar rookie DBs, What did ponder do to help you win this game.”

  8. By Parkway on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    We are still only the 9th seed in the playoffs don’t get too excited. I’m sure we’ll do just enough so Ponder doesn’t get benched and Frazier doesn’t get fired.

  9. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    can our defense win our last 3 games? they will have to

  10. By Ed on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder….. Never…. Ever…. throw the ball unless you are going to throw it out-of-bounds or it is 5 yards and less. That being said; if the OC is the individual instructing Ponder on which plays are to be executed, I recommend a mental examination. Ponder has had plenty of time to figure out how to play Pro Ball, but yet he hasn’t gotten it, (this game is too fast paced for a 2nd year QB). He seems to always have “happy feet” can’t/won’t judge distance with his throws, and can’t audible. Just because the HC decides to keep him as his number 1, shouldn’t give Ponder a sense of security. With his stats, and the throws I have seen him made, (by far the most “behind the receiver”), I have seen, he needs to just allow for the running game, run himself or be taken out of the game. Whatever his confidence level is, it is not Pro Ball league.

  11. By Parkway on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Cook should be back at the Houston game I believe

  12. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    seriously, and im not exagerating , ponder has the weakest arm ive ever seen for a Qb at the pro level…ever

  13. By norm houston on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    can we please have joe webb at wide reciever ,its not that hard to figiiore out! really! CMON, MAN!!!

  14. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    the guy has his mbt degree or whatever its called, and people assume it will translate to the football field.. there’s book smart..then there’s football smart. HE DOES NOT GET IT!!

  15. By Parkway on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier presser: Christian did a great job of leading our offense.

    What is he smoking?

  16. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    PARKWAY..if leading the offense consists of having a noodle arm, missing open deep shots, throwing for 90 yards and an interception, and handing the ball of to the greatest RB to ever live..where do i sign up?

  17. By norm houston on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply


  18. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Its sad when your team has a legit shot at the playoffs but you hope they lose out to get a better draft pick because your quarterback is hot garbage..just Sad

  19. By TC612 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    More like Peterson did a great job of leading the offense

  20. By TC612 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Jefferson got straight up knocked out…

  21. By Parkway on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I agree johnny he has to have one of the weakest arms I’ve ever seen, can barely throw it 40 in the air.

  22. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I’d be somewhat okay with his lack of arm strength if had a little bit of football iQ.

  23. By peterk on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @ parkway excellent points on coaches comment and ponder. Over 60% of the

    time Ponder throws off his back foot or has happy feet.

  24. By Jeffbleedspurple on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder you suck!

  25. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    i don’t know much about his desire to be better, but honestly, i don’t think you can coach ponders flaws. You cant teach arm strength, you cant teach accuracy, you cant teach how to not be scared in the pocket and you certainly cant teach confidence. Some times you have to know what you’re working with and know what God given talents your quarterback has been given. Ponder is NOT a starting nfl QB and he never will be. Its that simple. It doesn’t come down to effort in ponders case. It a simple case of lack of talent.

  26. By 32frank12 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is garbage agreed but I love how our rookie db’s each had a pick hats off to Smith and J-Rob. Jefferson played decent also, he has filled in very nicely for Cook and we can get Cook back for the Houston game. Finally we have a serviceable backfield. Now hopefully we can find a replacement for Ponder this offseason.
    Great Win today AP and Defense!

  27. By Parkway on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Agreed frank, and after getting childs and harvin back next year and drafting a WR and DT/LB and solidifying a few more pieces we could be a real contender next year, the glaring problem is that if we don’t have at least a competent QB that will all be wasted.

  28. By Wild Viking on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier said Ponder did a great job executing!!!!!!!! He is delusional. He threw for only 91 yards!! He is clearly not tracking with what is really happening.

  29. By TheRealDon on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    ; )

    Fire Leslie Frazier & Bill Musgrave..
    Fire Leslie Frazier & Bill Musgrave..
    Fire Leslie Frazier & Bill Musgrave..
    Fire Leslie Frazier & Bill Musgrave..
    Fire Leslie Frazier & Bill Musgrave..
    Fire Leslie Frazier & Bill Musgrave..
    Fire Leslie Frazier & Bill Musgrave..
    Fire Leslie Frazier & Bill Musgrave..
    Fire Leslie Frazier & Bill Musgrave..
    Fire Leslie Frazier & Bill Musgrave..

  30. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I’m sick and tired of wasting full seasons on scrub quarterbacks, waiting for a magical turnaround. Start either Joe Webb or MB7. i am pretty sure they can throw for better than under 100 yards and a 45% completion. If you lose the games with them, least these guys have talent and they’re worth ruining your season for them!!! Plus your draft position improves with each loss. this way, you’ll go into the off season knowing what they’re capable of doing with a first team offense in a meaningful game!! With ponder starting, you don’t get the benefit of watching these backups potential and you also get a worse outcome. Its a lose- Lose with ponder!!!

  31. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Someone make me GM!!!!

  32. By brandonlauseng on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    A couple of guys posted on here about this already, but it seems like very few people have really focused on or talked about Ponder’s lack of arm strength. The long pass he threw today (which was surprisingly on target) was the longest throw I have ever seen from him and it still has as much zip on it as an 85 year old running through syrup. I am just wondering what the heck was so “amazing” about Ponder before the draft that we felt he was the best choice for our team. Talk about a bust. Hopefully the front office will set their pride aside for a bit and actually see what a problem this is before this turns into another T-Jack situation.

  33. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply



  34. By purplehaze1 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    you know your QB is atrocious, when he completes a 3rd down 6 yd pass to his WR to move the chains; then celebrates like he just threw the SB winning TD…yep…definitely a franchise QB if ever there was one. AP is from another universe…wow…GO VIKES!!!

  35. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    BRANDON, Ponder was noted for his diminished arm strength in his college career. He suffered injuries to his throwing arm in his sophmore or freshman season and his arm wasnt the same since. The pros on him was he “nfl ready” and ” he comes from a pro style offense” and “he got his Mblah blah degree in 2 years” while ignoring the fact that this guy cant throw to save his life. they also didnt mention how sensitive he is under pressure and that he has noooooo confidence or courage to lead a football team

  36. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Kirk Cousins?

  37. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    We WON, quit whining like a bunch of Raider fans. Its a W.

  38. By brandonlauseng on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Johnny, So the focus was all about him being a “stand up guy thats good with books”. Good job Vikings, that should result in a Championship never. It’s sad when the best way I can compliment Ponder is to say “well, he’s better than McNabb” :) I saw the big celebration too on the third down conversion. Definitely a sign of a big confidence issue. Sad part is that they put in Ponder over Webb because he “did better in training camp” or whatever, and I’m sure he is a bit better in that kind of environment, but thats not exactly the same as having Peppers in your grill or Suh trying to kick you in your junk now is it?

  39. By vikingbob136 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Nice win today but i think it is a too late too little.
    Seattle and Wash keep winning and they both beat us.
    We have to win out and hope that Seattle, Wash,Chi, and the Cowgirls falter.
    AP was again incredible today.
    Ponder sucked and we booed the heck out of him when we could.
    Guess i won’t sell my GB tickets after all.

  40. By john 61 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    ponder did nothing to help us win, it was ad ,fire musgrave,get some new recivers and new qb

  41. By Dueyz on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    During the postgame press conference, Adrian Peterson was asked about his rushing….”I can sleep good, because, ultimately, we came out with a W”. Selfless! Adrian Peterson is the man.

  42. By die hard 67 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I agree our fans are garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  43. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder did what was asked of him. He only threw 17 times. Give it a rest already, the gameplan was AP. Simple, don’t argue with bs ‘statistics’ its a W for christs sake.

  44. By 03 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Pathetic game. Cheep game. No excitement.

  45. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    03, we won, is that not exciting enough for you? Do you find bowling entertaining?

  46. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Find a new team or sport 03, you are horrible.

  47. By vikingbob136 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I love the grammar on this blog.
    Some of you should get spell check already.

  48. By 03 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is horrible

  49. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Horrible article again— look at this: the Vikings powered their way to a 21-14 victory over the Chicago Bears

    HUH? Powered? Seven points by interception. Fourteen by AP in the first half.

  50. By NO WORRIES ! on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    NO help from ponder….. It`s like they said at 1/2 time …. ADRIAN WILL NEED BACK SURGERY SOON FROM CARRYING THE TEAM ON HIS BACK !!!! Simply the BEST …..
    Ponder = Simply the worst……

  51. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    A win is horrible to you 03? Look at how much we BLOW UP this blog during games, a bunch of complaining, and go to Cardinals page for TODAYS blog, only 5 comments, you what the’re doing? WATCHING the game Win or Lose.

  52. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    So AP didnt carry this team in 2007? Or 2008? Funny, ’cause I though he did.

  53. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Id gladly take mcnabb over ponder right now brandon. sure he was firing darts at receivers feet but at least he still had a cannon

  54. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Id take mcnabb over ponder right now brandon. sure he was firing darts at receivers feet but at least he still had a cannon

  55. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Looks like some fair fans, not yelling Fire this Fire that, Bench this guy and all that nonsense….And they are FAR worse off than we are.

  56. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Last years Oline really doomed Mcnabb

  57. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I wish we did keep McNabb, Could have given Ponder more time to learn the game. McNabb would be doing pretty decent this season with us for sure.

  58. By vikingbob136 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Those Cardinal fans are too busy sunning themselves to blog.
    (I might be a little jealous of their weather)

  59. By Ed on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @ terrible, Those of us that have been LONG time fans feel a lot of frustration. Sure, it is a W, but; our QB should at least play at a collegiate level, not a High School level. Granted, we need some help with the receiving corps, but the QB IS the leader of the offense, and should have to take the brunt of the criticisms for poor performance. AP is being wasted by Ponder’s uselessness.

  60. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Hahaha, for real Vikingbob, but you get my point, if we were getting stomped like they were, this site would be shut down due to too much internet traffic.

  61. By die hard 67 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    To all the whiners out ther shut your cake holes , idiots………..

  62. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Again, only 17 pass attempts by our offense. Todays plan was to run the ball, and it worked, we could keep doing that til it doesnt work. I’m not saying QB isn’t an issue, but that wasn’t our gameplan today.

  63. By brandonlauseng on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I think it’s great that a person is not allowed to share a difference in opinion. Even if you feel he has not knowledge of the sport or is just a “fair weather fan” he is allowed, just as you are, to share his opinion. But because it’s not how you feel and because your concrete mind can’t accept another person’s opinion, you feel the need to puff your chest and “correct” everyone else. It’s pathetic.

    My OPINION is that Ponder got the job done today in an ugly fashion, though it was better than the last couple of weeks. That being said, he still has no arm strength. A fact that cannot be fixed no matter how much you alter the offense to him. Maybe as time goes on his confidence will get better and maybe as time goes on he will start to click more with the team and timing and blah blah blah….but thats a lot of hopeful thinking.

    Think what you guys want, I’m not here to tell you to think otherwise, merely share my thoughts.

  64. By Spencer on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Finally, somebody in the secondary with some Swag

  65. By vikingbob136 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I agree Terrible Fan. There was over 1000 posts last week after the loss to the
    Fudgepackers.The success we had early in the season went to our heads.
    This was suppose to be a rebuilding year after 3 wins last year.

  66. By steveo on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    winning is great. but fraizer. what…he comment was ponder did what was asked of him. are you kidding me…… we have a coach who is satisfied with a 50% qb rating 97 yds. and and interception. that is what was asked of him by fraizer…. then the problem isn’t ponder…… its a coach who thinks grade school results is ok in the nfl…………

  67. By James on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    If ya haven’t seen it, nick foles drove the eagles back an won the game! For all you people who still rides ponders n u t s….nick foles has only started what…4 games??? Yet he looked way better than ponder!!! It’s obvious ponder SUCKS

  68. By jdude on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Is this High school football or what. The only reason Ponder is still starting is because frazier chose him and Ponder is richer and than Webb and is more wight than Webb. Seriously, man up coach.

  69. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    He doesnt have Swag, thats the dumbest thing this generation has EVER created, he has SKILL.

  70. By steveo on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    ok coach. tell me how a 50% quarterback rating will get you into the playoffs….. and if your goal isn’t at least a shot at the playoffs…. why are you coaching?

  71. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @James, Vince Young led a game winning drive in his career too, Does that mean hes good?

  72. By James on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier is the dumbest coach ever! I rather have Childress and t jack!!!

    Wilf: we all did you a favor and called our legislature about the stadium! Now do us a favor and fire Frazier and cut ponder!!!

  73. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @stevo, it worked for the Ravens SB win.

  74. By preeno on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    You know whats a funny stat? Today we had more interception return yards than passing yards. Cutler threw for more yards for our team than Ponder did ;)

  75. By James on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Better than ponder I can guarantee that! I will take young over ponder anyday!! What I’m saying is our qb sucks! You disagree??

  76. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Did we not win today? I can’t tell with all these so called ‘fans’….Even Raider fans were pumped after winning with Jamarcus Russell….

  77. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Hes not good, but hes not the total problem, there is a reason all of our WR talent was picked up for next to nothing…..

  78. By steveo on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    lol so you really believe that will work in the nfc north. lol not a chance. and imagine what a year Peterson would have with some help from a pass game spreading out the field……. Vikings have a lot of talent on the team. but the number one and two positions 1-coaching 2- quarterback…… are missing out on a good team…..

  79. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    You know what else is funny Preeno? WE WON WITH THOSE STATS!

  80. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Peterson wouldnt be having this kind of year if we had a good QB, we would be spending more time throwing the ball, did you not see our 2009 season?

  81. By steveo on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    win today was awesome terrible……. but. look at the remaining games and tell me that we have a chance with no a satisfied coach and no quarterback

  82. By preeno on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Nice!!! I dont find winning funny though, I find it glorious :D

  83. By steveo on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    terrible does fraizer pay you to make stupid and short sighted comments. or were you just born that way

  84. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    But we wouldnt be successful doing that either, because nobody can catch on our team, or create separation, and in the rare event they do, the qb is being pressured because of the weak right side of the line.

  85. By Tomcat on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Norm Houston–Are you serious? The race card is impossibly ridiculous. The Vikings have had lots of black qb`s over the years. Have you heard of Warren Moon? Daunte Culpepper? Tavaris Jackson? Randall Cunningham? Sheesh.

  86. By vikingbob136 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @ Terrible
    Don’t beat your head against your computer.It’s not worth it.
    I am sure some fans of the 49ers wanted Montana’s head after he got old.

  87. By James on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    It’s not that we are not pumped!! We’re glad they won but look at the play of our qb! Who wouldn’t complain about such play!! Even when ponder have harvin, he wasn’t doing much! It’s also the coaches fault for such dumb play design and play calling! Any good qb will at least make their wrs look average. Look at Tom Brady when they won those four Super Bowls! He had average wrs. Wrs who are basically unknown! He made them look good right???

  88. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Nope, are you paid to make stupid posts to put a team down after a WIN?

  89. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @Tomcat, not to mention we have a black HC and DC. There is no race issue here. IMO they simply dont like something about Webb right now.

  90. By preeno on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Terrible, If there is a “terrible fan base here” and you are part of the fan base, are you terrible?

  91. By Parkway on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    No doubt spencer

  92. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Yep, I am a part of the terrible fan base, cause we all root for the same team, (I think) Because in the end we are all Vikings fans (I think). Use some logic here, not some grade school intellect.

  93. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    See James, thats the thing we don’t have average WR’s. We have below average cast aways right now. Outside Harvin and maybe Wright in the future.

  94. By vikingbob136 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Brady has won 3 Super Bowls.Not 4. Played in 5

  95. By steveo on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    i’am not putting the team down…… the team has a lot of talent. and most of them played very well ……. and do week in and week out……. my point is….. an average quarterback and average coach and we would be on the top…… I want that for the team and fans….. what I don’t want is a coach who is satisfied with a horrible performance at the qb position……….

  96. By James on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    They won’t bench ponder because they don’t have the guts to own up to their mistakes yet!! The mistake of drafting ponder 12th overall!! We could have gotten dalton, he was still on the board! Btw, why are the coaches not giving wright more playing time but aromashodu??? Can you say they don’t recognize talent???

  97. By vikingbob136 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    When do we start talking about how to beat the Rams?

  98. By Bigfan1 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I have a feeling that Harrison Smith is just going to get better, I think he’ll do great things for the Vikings and so far looks to be a great draft pick.

  99. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Again, 17 attempts is not going to put up 300yds and 3td’s. If that all you guys care about, be Bears fans… know, the team that LOST despite putting up decent yards.

  100. By steveo on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    and by the way ….. an old joe Montana….. would run rings around ponder…….. hall of famer…vs. 50% ponder

  101. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @vikingbob We should already be doing that, but some people think we should talk about how we won but actually didnt win todays game. Lol. I wanna talk Rams.

  102. By James on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Actually terrible the wrs Tom Brady had wasn’t average too. He just made them look average or better! If you think about it, we actually have talents. Rudolph, Adrain, jarius, Percy!!! Now we could have went out and brought some help but this organization have a different pov!

  103. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Yeah Steveo, because he really lit things up in KC….sheesh…

  104. By vikingbob136 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @ Steveo
    I would take the Montana that played for the Chiefs over most of today’s QB’s.

  105. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Brees has 9 ints in his last 3 games…

    Does Ponder have Colston,Henderson, and Moore to throw to outside at WR ??…

  106. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @James, so Deion Branch was below average? Troy Brown had a 1,000 yard season in their 2001 SB season. Not to mention they had Killer D and a great O-Line.

  107. By MuskyFever on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    So i have not read anything of what people said. Just have a few game observations.

    1. AP IS A BEAST!!!! Best RB in the NFL hands down. No one compares, not even close!!!!

    2. Jasper Brinkley had a heck of a game. I saw him around the football a lot of the game, he also made a few great plays in passing D. So thats was nice o see him step up in that way.

    3. H. Smith is a rising star. I can’t wait to see him in a few years with more experience under his belt. he is a special player, hope he is around for many years to come. P.S. I bought his jersey today for my own Xmas present. Being shipped tomorrow.

    4, Yes, we won. Revenge is sweet… but it is no thanks to Ponder. 11 for 17 no TDs and a INT from another UNDER THROWN BALL!!!!!!! His numbers are still regressing, Don’t get all high and mighty you POnder supporters… HE DIDN’T DO A DARN THING ALL GAME!!!!!! The only good throw I say him make hit Shudo in the shoulder on a long throw. Shudo should have caught that. Other than that ONE throw… He didn’t really do anything good. Please if you have a come back to my argument, if anyone uses the phrase “game manager” I’ll freak out. His numbers were good for a 6th round Rookie… not a second year 1st rounder… Just sayin.

    5. Recievers still can’t get open. and even when they did Ponder didn’t find them and just threw the short throw… all 11 times.

    6. I am realy liking what the secondary did today… Outside of Marshall, but there is something about Marshall and Cutler that is super hard to stop. Kind like trying to stop AP with only 4 in the box… not gunna happen. Outside of the long TD pass to Jeffery, the secondary did pretty well today.

    7. Front four did better than the first meeting but still has some kinks to work out.

    8> AD will get his 2,000. I am convinced he is either a super Alien from a planet the only breeds football ALL STARS, or he is actually a machine designed by the government to be a super solider. But somewhere along the line they decided it would be funnier if he played football…

  108. By James on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder can’t even hit open receivers! See the jarius pass today and the Adrian pass last week! If he would have hit them maybe we wouldn’t be talking about this topic! And do you guys not see how scared ponder was staying in the pocket? He bail out of pocket too soon which takes his own targets out!

  109. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Good point OTK. Lets get Ponder some guys to throw to, then we can make a fair distinction.

  110. By Bigfan1 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    AP has 1600 yds so far 6 yds a carry w/ 10 tds, This guy is a future legend in the present and the best draft pick MN ever made. A total beast that just getting better, it looks like this his 6th year will be his best.

  111. By steveo on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    what guys to throw too…….. did you watch todays game. did he have wide open recievers way down field that he didn’t even get within 10 yrs. of

  112. By James on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Terrible, nobody knew of branch til they won the Super Bowl! And yes branch was average. What did he do when he went to the Seahawks??? What he do when he or back to the pats? Yes he is average! Troy brown was the only legit one! Don’t kid yourself! Nobody knew of those wrs til they won the Super Bowl except for brown!

  113. By vikingbob136 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @ Terrible Montana in KC
    1993 8-3 record 60% completion 2144 yards passing 13 tds 7 ints
    1994 9-5 record 60% completion 3283 yards passing 16tds 9ints
    Better than Ponder?

  114. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @James, when you spend a season behind our amazing 2011 o line, you will be gun shy for a while, especially as a 2nd year QB, and our line still isn’t solid. Remember David Carr? He looked good when he had time early on then he got beat up, and never felt comfortable in the pocket again. WE MUST FINISH BUILDING OUR OLINE.

  115. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    terrible, yes our recievers (minus harvin) are average. Okay lets say their below average for your sake. they may not create seperation 100% of the time but they made seperation today! Heck theyve been getting seperation the whole year but the camera angles dont show them on tv so you assume nobodies open. That pass that was interceptecd today, where Wright was streaking down the feild, he had about 4 steps on the safeties. Ponder pull all his might into that throw and it floated 5 yards behind wright! that aromashdu Pass where he Also had 2-3 steps on defenders…UNDERTHROWN.

  116. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    i dont know why fans like terrible are so blind to the obvious. They have that Loser mentality where we Win one game..despite of the Qb.”.hes alright..we won” Thats a loser mentality!! our organization should strive to improve at all times…Yes even when we win a game like today

  117. By James on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Johnny, not to mention the pass to Adrain last week. That would have change the game.

  118. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @Vikingbob, one player does not make a team. He is better than Ponder, DUH, Montana is a HOF QB, Ponder is a second year QB. You guys expect instant success, you want Alex Smith to come over, but look how many years it took for him to even be a decent QB? You don’t always strike gold instantly. Show some patience and enjoy the dam win.

  119. By MuskyFever on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    If we actually had a QB with talent and could throw accuratly consistently, we would be stomping in this division. We could be sitting at best in the NFC. But a below average coaching staff and a below average Qb is why we are stuck at 7 and 6…. I am NOT happy with a coach who says our QB plkayed great and he is very satisfied with his performance….

    Dear Mr. Fraizer

    Apparently you are OK with giving the fan base more and more reason not to trust you. We already are jumping off your wagon, can’t you at least be honest about what is going on, on the field. We are starting to think you don’t respect us as fan or your audience, a win does not dictate good QB play. Even this fan understands that. I think its time for you to lay off the ether and start recognizing this QB and his “talents” for what they really are.

    Sincerely Vikings fans

  120. By steveo on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    lol. well terrible the only thing we will agree on is that we both want the Vikings to win….. you want one game that was won by the defense and petterson….. I want that also but would like to see more than one game.
    And since I don’t like to battle wits with a one armed man…. i’ll move on

  121. By vikesfan5.0 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Im thinking Alex Smith

  122. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Yes, because a winning mentality is to not enjoy a win today, you know what the teams do? They enjoy today, and get back to work tomorrow, lets criticize tomorrow, and enjoy today.

  123. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I have been waiting all day…

    But nobody has even mentioned the fact..That If the refs would have called even a decent game…I don’t think the Bears would have had 50 yards against our defense !!!…

    Why not just let ALL the Bears receivers PUSH OFF on our secondary !!!!…

    Talk about a joke !!!…The Bears receivers got away with mauling our secondary all day long !!!…And didn’t even draw one flag against the Bears for offensive pass interference ???….

    WOW !!!..That was bad…

  124. By James on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Terrible, I agree our oline needs improvements BUT its not the worst in the league! I believe packers oline are as bad! Rodgers gets hit a lot! Bears oline are worst and yet cutler still stay poise in the pocket did he not?

  125. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Did we lose today?

  126. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I think some of you are drinking something illegal— McNabb? Really?

  127. By Nicholas on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    BENCH Christian Ponder….Christian Ponder for BACKUP QB!!!

    Leslie Frazier for DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR!!

    Proven Winner for HEAD COACH!!!

    REPLACE bubble screen Musgrave!!

    Pay Percy Harvin!!

    Lets see what we have in MBT and Webb!!!

  128. By steveo on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    do you think ponder is the answer to get to the playoffs. terrible? one win….today sure wasn’t because of him

  129. By vikingbob136 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @ Terrible
    I gave you Montana’s stats in KC because i thought you were downplaying him
    in KC.He played Miami on a Mon night and the game was a classic.
    I wasn’t saying to compare them,I was just saying that the 49er fans probably booed Montana at the end of his 49er career.
    Again, don’t beat your head on the keyboard.It’s only a game.

  130. By James on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Yes it’s his second season and he should improve being that he’s more familiar with the o! But he’s not improving at all! Look at luck and rg3!!! The are improving as the go an its their rookie season!

  131. By MuskyFever on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    The only people that lost today are the ones that believe Ponder had a good game and is the future of this team

  132. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @James, Ponders pocket awareness clock so to speak is pretty messed up, thanks to the 2011 oline, as a rookie those things hang in your mind because thats all you know, Rodgers and Cutler know what its like to have a decent oline at some point, doesnt hurt when you have guys to throw too who are open as soon as the ball is snapped. Brandon Marshall, and Greg Jennings…….to name a few.

  133. By Jenny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I’m in. Ponder sucks. I was a Ponder believer until last week. This guy is so conceited and the weakest arm I’ve seen. Will the Vikings ever get a decent quarterback? We’re not a serious playoff contender until we get a halfway decent qb. Does this guy even practice? He needs a workout with AP.

  134. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Teribble, i dont think were really expecting instant success. That would be a kind of reaching for the moon, but hey does it hurt to have such high standards for Multimillionare athletes who we emotionally and financially? Me, personally, i didnt really think we would accomplish much this year. BUT i was expecting improvement. Especially on christian ponder. Keyword IMPROVEMENT!! But ill tell you what, that 5-2 start wasnt a fluke. We actually have a Talented team. I beileive that we are a more offenisvley talented team than the patriots! Yes they have Grongowski but we have rudolph. We have the greatest runningback in history and we have a dynamic weapon in harvin! Who does new england have on offense…welker? hes a system player!! hes not as talented as Harvin!!!! theyre oline is only better than us at maybe a couple spots. But brady is soooo good he makes you forget all that. Bring brady here and put ponder there. Youll see what im talking about

  135. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Nobody is saying Ponder had a good game Musky, but he only threw 17 times, you cant possibly expect 300 yds from that, unless we still had Rice…

  136. By Nicholas on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @ Terrible Fan Base

    So you’re saying that Ponder’s woes are due to an Offensive Line from LAST YEAR??

    What kind of story is that??

    We may not have the greatest pass protecting O-line this year…but its no excuse for the lack of ability to make his reads. Not to mention, a deep ball that is consistently thrown 5 yards behind his receivers as well.

  137. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Seattle scored 58 points!

  138. By MuskyFever on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @ Jenny … If AP brought Ponder to work out with him the next article Wobby would be writing would be the explination of C. Ponders funeral… AP would kill him

  139. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    All your points are right on target Johnny, but don’t you believe a lot of what goes in in NE is the offensive system? Even Matt Cassel led them to 10-6.

  140. By James on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Terrible, harvin is open no matter what but yet he doesn’t put up decent numbers! I don’t even think ponder has a timer in his head! Ponder is just plain scared! This is what happen when you play scared! I mean look at it…even when he have time, he still make poor decision! It’s not even about his oline anymore. It’s HIM!!

  141. By vikingbob136 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    3 wins last year.
    At least 7 this year.
    Next year at least 10 wins!!!
    The future looks bright.

  142. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @Nicholas, Time for you to take a reading comprehension class there buddy. We could have the best oline in the world, but because of what happened last year, its still firmly in the back of his mind, he was beat up bad last season, you honestly believe he’d just totally forget that?

  143. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    HE IS SCARED! Thats my point! If he wasn’t so freaked out by what he has in his face, he’d be doing a lot better.

  144. By steveo on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    ah terrible… you admit a good coaching system works then…. new England…… I bet they don’t say all they expect is 50% qb rating

  145. By preeno on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Obviously there is a lot wrong with our passing game. There are times where QB play looks bad, the oline looks bad, the play calling looks bad, and the WRs look bad. We just have to hope our defense and AD can keep leading us to victory

  146. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder should retire– I hope he invested his money– he got a big chunk of change and can start a business

  147. By vikingbob136 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @ Musky
    Then AP would have to”CONSOLE” Ponder’s fiance.Get that workout scheduled!

  148. By MuskyFever on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @ terrible …

    Your right I am not expecting 300 yrds. But I do expect more than 100 yrds (didn’t have) with only that many attempts I don’t expect a pick (did happen). WIth the distance of his throws 10 yrds or less for most, I expect more completions (didn’t happen). With 9 in the box I expect a little more from play action with the BEST RB IN THE LEAGUE!!!! (didn’t happen) I expect a little more pocket presence.(NEVER happens) I DO expect the coach to acknowledge that it was not a great game by the QB (didn’t happen).

    Do I need to continue???

  149. By steveo on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    if he is scared then he should give back the millions he makes for being a professional…leave the rest to the big boys

  150. By Nicholas on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @ Terrible Fan Base

    Oh NO, I FULLY understand what you are saying…TRUST ME!

    I think that is an incredibly LAME excuse..that is all.

    You’re telling me that an NFL pro Quarterback is excused from making poor decisions because he is so terrified from LAST SEASON???!!!

    I want a QB with more mental fortitude than that…I’m sorry…but you’re excuse is HORRIBLE! HORRIBLE!!!

  151. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    One thing is certain– good QB play this year and we would be in the playoffs–

  152. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    You know your o line is weak, you take the snap, line is breaking down right side, but still have a good pocket, but your receivers aren’t getting enough separation for you to make a confident throw, you then panic, so you can’t set your feet, and you make an off balance throw you never should have made. Thats the problem with Ponder.

  153. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    we would have 9 or 10 wins right now– no question

  154. By Tomcat on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I`m just glad the Rams don`t have anyone like Marshall. Do they?

  155. By MuskyFever on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @ terrible…

    If you are right and he is actually holding that much fear in from the previous year. Then he is not mature enough to play in this league. Don’t ruin your own argument… nuff said

  156. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @ TERRIBLE Also it doesn’t hurt to have a genuis coach like bellichick . But i am talking about the 2012 patriots, not 2010. 2010 they still had moss ( a deep threat). what are we lacking most according to these genuis Analysts????a deep threat..guess what, brady hasnt had a deep threat since moss left in 2011 and look what hes doing. All am saying judge a quarterback, just compare him to his peers. Bring Rg3 here, Put ponder in washington. Bring luck here, Put ponder in indy.

  157. By steveo on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    then lets get rid of the scared boy and find a man to lead the team

  158. By James on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Terrible, if ponder going to let what happen the year before affect his play the next then there’s no need for him to play pro ball!!! So what, next year you going to say ponder can’t throw Tds because this year he don’t have wrs???? What a joke! It’s week 14…he should already know how the oline plays and whatnot. Last year was no excuse! Bye out oline sucks last year but he played the packers his first start and played well! he had the same wrs!

  159. By steveo on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    quarterbacks don’t get paid in the nfl big bucks to be scared….. they want results or hit the road

  160. By vikesfan5.0 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder better get his head out of his a$$ in these last games or ASmith will be our new QB.

  161. By Terrible Fan Base Here on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Whatever. Have fun knocking a team that has a winning record, and is still in the hunt for the playoffs, I’m officially convinced most of you guys will never be happy about anything this team is doing after a 3-13 season. The most fickle fan base in the NFL by far. I’m gonna go to work tonight and be proud of the W. While you guys bash everything as if we lost.

  162. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Thats what i was about to say Musk..If ponder isnt the type of QB to bounce back, If hes the type of Quarterback that gets rattled based on something that happened a year ago? hes not a Quarterback! I would check him to see if he suffers from any panic attacks or Loses sleep in his off time..sounds like a physiological issue

  163. By dryes on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder for MVP!

  164. By Beach Viking on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    why do some of you only look at the qb stats. a win is a win. there are only 6 teams in the nfc with a better record. we played a offence with a better qb, a good rb and a excellent wr and a good d. a you want to fire the coach. i thank he is doing better than most think. i agree our qb position is weak, but there is nothing to do about that now. do u expect frazier to throw ponder under the bus. some of you act like this is fantasy football. you just want to drop and add players. we will just have to ride this out

  165. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Sounds like a psychological issue more than a physiological issue.

  166. By MuskyFever on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I hope we get anyone that is not C. Ponder. He is just bad. If he scared he is only hurting our team and is not mentally strong enough to play in this league… If he is not scared, then he is not Physically gifted enough to play in this league. Can’t make throws, can’t stay poise… My point is,. EITHER WAY he is not mentally or physically gifted to play in this league… NUFF SIAD

  167. By James on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Terrible how can you not complain and be upset by the qb play??? Yes they won but how many times are they going to win like this! We are realistic! Knowing that this qb play will not take us anywhere!! We suppose to rebuild right?? Well the qb is not!!! We have other players on the team that we should look at so we know what we need to do next season!

  168. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    thats what i meant Titus Lol

  169. By MuskyFever on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @ terrible..

    Don’t get it twisted there buddy. We are all happy that we won. But no thanks to your favorite QB. We are satisfied by the win, the D, the Special teams, the Oline and AP…

    WE ARE NOT SATISFIED WITH OUR QB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  170. By dryes on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Terrible, you are a genius! You should be the coach.. bring back Berrian, too, right? PS, we fans are happy that we won, but sick of wasting time on a scared headcase with no arm. IF we changed qbs 4 weeks ago, we’d be in the playoffs with a chance to go deep. Ha ha Terrible should be your middle name. And your last should be LOWIQ. Get iT? .. didn’t think so , .lmao

  171. By Nicholas on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @ Terrible

    I gave Ponder plenty of a chance for quite some time. I was even an extreme apologist like you are. (OK…not that extreme..LOL)

    Now, I have chosen to move on from Ponder because I think that he doesn’t have what it takes to be a franchise QB at this level. Maybe he will get better if he plays behind someone great..who knows? All I know is that he’s not able to make his reads, and he also lacks NFL caliber arm strength.

    The fan base has every right to be critical after seeing what he has done with the 2012 season. We are happy with the improvement, but are allowed to spot the obvious: Christian Ponder is decreasing our odds of the postseason.

  172. By Tomcat on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Remember last year several games when the opposing team only was forced to punt two or three times?

  173. By dryes on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    amen, Nicholas

  174. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Man i miss guss ferrotte. What an arm that guy had. let us to a division title. Heck, even berrian was good that year! who remembers this 99 yard pass. When was the last time a viking quarterback other than favre hit a reciever in stride on a deep pass. Ponder makes me miss quarterrbacks like Tjack and ferotte…A major sign he SHould GO Heres the 99 yard pass>>

  175. By Nicholas on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Very happy with Adrian Peterson, Our Defense, and our overall improvement from this years draft! Who would have even seen that coming?? Incredible!!

    PS: Christian Ponder Should be BENCHED!

  176. By Beach Viking on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl. How many Qb better than him have not.

  177. By MuskyFever on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @ jonny… Oh the good ol’e days

  178. By FreddyW on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    You guys have a funny way of celebrating a win. Congrats to you guys, your team showed up to play today. (Bears Fan)

  179. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Johnny – I thought so, but not what you wrote– you must have been too quick to hit the spell check options.

  180. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder needs to be sat— for his own good. Let him know his play is unacceptable– if he knows his career is on the line, and he does not work to improve– and improve, well then we know. Insane to keep this guy in– OH WAIT

    THIS ONE IS FOR THE LIONS– they just scored!


    That is Vikings Horn– Lions STYLE!

  181. By Jenny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder’s throws look like slow motion.

  182. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @Musk a 4 down goalline stand let to that improbable 99 yard pass..Good Times! Henoestly, if ponder attempted that pass, i think it would have landed at our 30 yard line with berrian streaking down the bears 30 yard line

  183. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply


  184. By DRS. on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    What a bunch of winning children, The Vikings win and you all are crying because your favorite color is not playing @ QB? There you go, playing the race card. According to some you, the Vikings are a races team. Well that is very interesting being that the majority of the team is black, the head coach is black.
    Maybe Web is not playing because the coach thinks he is not the QB we all seem to think he is.

    Cool it, the Vikings is 7-6 and could be 10-6 and number one in our div. our div. is wide open; If Green Bay, Chicago loses in the coming week who knows what will be.

    With all considered this has been a much better season then last year and I have enjoyed it, what I care about is that the Vikings finish with a winning record, and if they do not I still will be pleased because they have shown improvement this year.

  185. By Beach Viking on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I saw Harvin play when he was 12 yrs old til HS. At 12 no one on the field could tackle or catch him. you always new he would be special. i hope we can keep him.

  186. By Jenny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Harvin doesn’t seem like he likes it here in MN. Wouldn’t be surprised if he asks to get traded.

  187. By DRS. on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply


  188. By Beach Viking on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Harvin has always been number one when he played. i think he doesn’t like to be in AP’s shadow.

  189. By Nicholas on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @ anyone complaining about people who are “complaining” on here right now

    Its hard not to complain when we are being provoked by someone with the name of “terrible fan base.” Also, anyone who is “complaining” is obviously happy about the win…we are just displeased that Ponder is still @ the helm…because we believe it is more than obvious that he should be benched.

    Thank you very much.

    Bench Ponder………SKOL VIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  190. By Derrick.G on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Only reason I could think that he’d use that name is because of the way we are reacting after a win. Ponder sucked today, but really? Can’t we just enjoy the good things about today, and argue over the bad tomorrow? Hahaha.

  191. By Tomcat on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Kittens up 14-0.

  192. By Derrick.G on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Go Kittens, haha

  193. By EMP88 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    At least we are in the hunt.

  194. By Parkway on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    And of course Kluwe had to make his little statement today

  195. By Tomcat on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Some will complain after we pound the Rams next week, too.

  196. By Derrick.G on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I’m ok with that, Ray Guy was a dam good punter.

  197. By Derrick.G on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I hope we beat the Rams…..but I’m concerned about this team on the road, and the rams are one of those teams that can just show up, they took the 49ers to OT both times, nearly tied twice!

  198. By Mike B. on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Let’s all be honest here the OL wasn’t play p@ss offense well. I saw lots of Bears in the backfield. Even with that Ponder didn’t have a great day today. Then again there was enough mistakes made all over after the 2nd TD. Still lots of miss tackles, dumb penalties, dropped b@lls. Ponder did perform to Frazier’s game plan and having the lead let them continue a very unexciting sets of series after that second TD. I still don’t think your critical analysis of Ponder is justified at this point, but he is having issues. We have 2 away games and we will have to pick it up. Quit being so negative. We won the game. You will probably never see a blow out with a Frazier led team.. I can’t believe anyone is pulling the race card on the Vikings that’s just dumb. Ready for another Win.

  199. By Parkway on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Our offense didn’t score after the first 6 minutes of the game. Just saying.

  200. By Derrick.G on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    You cant speak logic to some fans Mike B…….I’m with you on that, Ponder had an ugly game, hes had a lot of em….BUT we have to stay on course. After all, it was a W.

  201. By Derrick.G on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Why does that matter Parkway? We did the same thing against the Lions and STILL won. Why can’t you be happy for once?

  202. By Derrick.G on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Either way, just wanted to check in, its been MONTHS since i posted on here, and its only getting worse…..even as the team gets better.

  203. By Parkway on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    One and done doesn’t do it for me, not that we will make the playoffs anyways. I would rather have lost and replaced Ponder permanently than lost and kept him around another year. I appreciate the win and how well the rest of the team played, but it only covers up how terrible Ponder is. Look at this blog post, doesn’t even mention Ponder.

  204. By Spencer on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply


    We won.

    We’re 7-6.

    And we did it without our best player on offense and on defense.

    Shut up.

  205. By Nicholas on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Take a page from Jim Harbaugh…Bench Ponder! It will light a competitive fire under his @ss!!

    Playoffs here we come! 10-6 is definitely in reach!

    Spielman did a fantastic job in the draft…specifically in our secondary!!

    Josh Robinson and Harrison Smith were very impressive today!


  206. By MuskyFever on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    The team may be getting better but our QB is getting worse…. for those of you that think we are complaining about a win… Were not. were complaining about a less than sub par QB who shouldn’t be allowed as a starter.

    Parkway said it perfectly, this win only covers up the facct that Ponder is AWFULL!!!!!! We could win ever game with AP running for 150+ all the time. But we don’t. Why you ask? cause there is no QB to back up unbelievable RB play

  207. By AllDayMVP on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I agree with alot of the posts. Had it not have been for our defense stepping up and picking off Cutler twice, and AP running wild again, we would have kissed any playoff chances away. Yet our team once again has bailed out Christian Ponder and his poor numbers and efforts. I understand he is still young BUT look at other young QB’s, Andy Dalton, Cam Newton, Andrew Luck and RGIII all of these guys are “young” and finding success with limited resources around him. We need to look in free agency for a QB and draft a stud WR 1st round.

  208. By Mike B. on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Like Frazier said in his Press Conference today they played Vikings Football. The short game focusing on the run is the type of team you will get with Frazier.

  209. By vikingfanforlife on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Lets just keep winning Vikes. I love to smile. Smiling is my favorite. Buddy the Elf

  210. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    soooo…chris cook is our best player on defense spencer? lmao

  211. By Mike B. on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Each QB starts out the Rookie season in differet ways. Ponder is not one of those quick success guys. There will be an evaluation at the end of the season by the coaching staff and probably Ponder will have to earn that starting spot next year I think he’s done enough to keep it this year.

  212. By Spencer on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Either him or Greenway.

  213. By Beach Viking on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    will bobby fielder be active next week if jefferson is not available

  214. By Spencer on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    No Brandon Burton will.

  215. By Mike B. on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    The interstate is closed in South Dakota bliszard warning

  216. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    i honestly think everson griffin might be our best defensive player

  217. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B was dropped on his head as an infant

  218. By purple blood on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Cook and Harvin are never on the field! H.Smith is the best D player this year.

  219. By Beach Viking on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Rams don’t have a dominant big receiver. our defense should hold them in check while AP shows his greatness.

  220. By Nicholas on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @ Johnny

    I think he is our best pass rusher.

  221. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    smith is a beast but he disapeared for a couple weeks. But man it feels good to have a great ball hawk safety after all these years

  222. By Spencer on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Everson Griffen best player on the defense?????

    Get the f-ck outta here!

  223. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Dont sleep on the Rams. They have too good rookie recievers, brian quick and givens. Also their D line is young and talented. Add the fact that were playing at their house and its not looking like a cakewalk

  224. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Chris cook is our best defender? how many interceptions does he have? Yea 0
    and did he play half of his games? NO

  225. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    you see everson griffin making plays week in week out. Putting pressure on qbs, getting sacks, running down speedy players on special teams, the guy is a beast!

  226. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    i think he should start over B robison but the D line is the least of our worries

  227. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Harrison Smith, Greenway, Winfield, and Allen are our best D players

  228. By Spencer on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    A CBs #1 job is to shutdown WRs.

    He did that every week.

  229. By TheRealDon on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @Terrible Fan Base Here

    Fire Leslie Frazier & Bill Musgrave..
    Fire Leslie Frazier & Bill Musgrave..
    Fire Leslie Frazier & Bill Musgrave..
    Fire Leslie Frazier & Bill Musgrave..
    Fire Leslie Frazier & Bill Musgrave..
    Fire Leslie Frazier & Bill Musgrave..
    Fire Leslie Frazier & Bill Musgrave..
    Fire Leslie Frazier & Bill Musgrave..
    Fire Leslie Frazier & Bill Musgrave..
    Fire Leslie Frazier & Bill Musgrave..

  230. By Johnny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Jared allen is having an off year but yea i agree with greenway and winfield. Harrison is playing great too.

  231. By Beach Viking on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Cook is our only DB that can handle big physical receivers. Griffen does make plays but so do our other lineman. which makes Cook a valuable player to this team

  232. By AC91 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    You’ve made some decent points, but are you really going to stand up for ponder and put so much blame on the receivers? Sure they aren’t a talented bunch, but ponder has been playing horribly. He looks like a scared puppy when he drops back to throw. Everyone here is stoked about the win, but if Harrison smith doesn’t pick that pass for six then we could have been looking at a loss tonight. The defense isn’t always going to score and this was like the sixth game that ponder threw for under 100. You can’t sit there and say, “Oh it wasn’t our game plan. Our game plan was to run the ball.” That’s BS. Any coaches game plan isn’t having their starting QB pass for under 100 yards. That’s supposed to be a given in the NFL. Peterson can’t constantly run for more yards than ponder is passing for. To say that was the game plan is moronic.

  233. By purple blood on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Cook and Harvin are sallys! Great players but sallys.

  234. By dakotakid59 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Did we win or did we loose today? Hard to tell by this blog…!!!

  235. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    We won the game, but we lost MBT.

  236. By Mike B. on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    We won just that others want to whine because we won and now Ponder will start the rest of the season. I mean really. Did anyone doubt this at the start of the season when Frazier said that Webb will play the traditional back up role. You are not going to get 200 yrds p@ssing from a Fraizer led team unless a WR picks up big yards. If Ponder sets up on that deep p@ss it’s going to be a lot closer ball than what we saw. He has does have some happy feet, but it’s understandable with the lousy p@ss blocking we are getting . We are doing a lot better than last year and some should be happy with that and not focus so much on Ponder. He could just work out his issues given time.

  237. By dannyboy on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Fraser is doing a good job with what he has to work with. Musgrave called a good game today. Their jobs are safe. The problem is at QB. It will change in off season.. Guaranteed. Big time improvement. Stick a fork in Ponder off season. Not No 1 QB material

  238. By Mike B. on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    dannyboy I wouldn’t be so sure about that. I agree Ponder will have to compete for the starting spot next year, but I think Spielman and Frazier will give him a chance to compete. That fork is hardly stuck in.

  239. By Eddie on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Matt Flynn is sitting on the bench in Seattle, and he is better than any QB we have had here since Brett Farve (the first year) and Tark. The Packers draft 3 QB’s when they had Favre, and we draft Williamson, and Erasmus James. Cuz we had small hands Dante!! If we would just realize that without a QB u cant win in the NFL!! If McLeod Bethel-Thompson can’t play, we have no QB in our entire organization. If we would just listen to Mel Kiper, instead the Morons that we have had since we passed on Marcus Allen, we would be so much better off. I do luv Kalil, and Harry Smith!! But we NEED A QB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  240. By sgt on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Lets get real, Ponder was aweful again and if it wasn’t for AD we aren’t even havin this discussion. Ponder has been here 2 yrs and has regressed, other rookie QBs in the NFL are way ahead of Ponder. And Lets be honest with ourselves Ponder’s arm is a noodle and those QBs dont win in the NFL.

  241. By CaribooBill on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    AC91 – watch Frazier’s press conference and see what he says the game plan was.

  242. By Jeffbleedspurple on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @ Terrible Fan Base Here. Where not bashing everything here fool, only Ponder and the coaching staff, will and maybe the WR’s also.

  243. By Richard1A on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    They are letting Ponder develop, but, it doesnt get any worse than the way he is playing. Ponder has nothing but his girl on his mind. Webb is better than what Ponder is doing, and like I have said all along, Webb should be runningback or receiver, he has talent. Just WTF is going on with the coachs! this is rediculous. After the first 5 games Ponder has gotten worse and worse. Someone should go slap there faces, wake them up!

  244. By chris b on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    First game of the season I didnt get to watch. Snowmobiling in cook. I take it ponder looked like ponder and AP has to be MVP.

  245. By Nicholas on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    This win was a smoke screen for the Giant Elephant in our living room…….PONDER must be BENCHED!

    H3LL Yeah! Playoffs here we come!!

    AD 154 yards on the DAY! WOOT! WOOT!! Can anyone say immortal??!!

    Rams will be a tough win…but I think we can pull it off!!

    Oh yeah…and BENCH PONDER!!! Lets see what we have in Webb and/or MBT!!

    SKOL VIKES…Great Win today!!! (Bench Ponder!)

  246. By Shawn on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I agree terrible “fan” base … I think P3cker fans show more support to the Vikings than the whiny b1tches on this site.

  247. By Shawn on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    VIKINGS WIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    We will not have a 10 loss season for the first time in 3 years !!!!!!!





  248. By jenny on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Darn! Green Bay’s ahead now.

  249. By john 61 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    great win because it was the bears, now we need recivers,qb and new oc case closed, ponder sucks,there is a lot of great players on this team,they win 2 more

  250. By Spencer on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn, you appreciate Cook right?

  251. By Sgarrett1212 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Fac is with the way ap is running & defense holding up, if we had an average qb we would be winning the division & absolutely playoff bound. Would be nice to break 100 yds in passing game.

  252. By Derek on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    The thing I dont get is Ponder played really well in his first 14 games as a starter I had hope that we found a QB! But I was wrong. 10 last year and the first 4 this year. Once the Washington game came around this year he’s been awful.

    The defense isn’t getting as much of a pass rush as it usually gets this year, BUT the secondary I think is playing really welL Smith & Robinson are play very nice.

    And Peterson is just the best RB in the game. The guy has had over like 125 yeards running the last 7-8 weeks! I hope he breaks the record!

    St. Louis this week, GO VIKES!

  253. By vikes- or - die on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Is it just me, or does it look like Stafford is being paid to throw this game?

  254. By rye on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder has not won a game for the vikings this year. AP and the defense has wone the games. In fact, one has to wonder if Ponder’s noodle arm hasn’t cost the vikings at least 2 games. We know one thing for sure… Web is not the greatest, but he is at least an average QB with great legs and he does not have a noodle arm. I used to be one of the ponder supporters but have seen nothing from him this year that is showing he is getting better. In fact, he has seemed to regress.

    I wish the coaching staff would put webb in. He is a threat with his legs and plays the QB position just as good (probably better) than ponder based on his past performance.

  255. By Shawn on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder won the Jags game … 2 clutch 4th quarter drives …

    Ponder had 289 yards and 2 TDs in a win over the Titans …

  256. By vikes- or - die on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Wow, it looked to me like Stafford was paid to throw that game.

  257. By Don Good on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Cant be to negative on a must win, and getting it done. At halftime Frazier was asked what he planned for the offense in the 2nd half. Frazier said(WE ARE GOING TO RUN, AND THEN RUN, AND FINALLY RUN) The Good News, AP-AD and the O-Line came out ready to Play, The D came out and made a huge play after we Scored. And for the rest of the half, The only thing C Scrub lead the Offense to, was Punt, Punt, Punt, and of coarse no game would be worth playing if he didnt look like walking on hot coals, backwards and heeving up a Duck. My main point. If it was the Vikings that were down 14-0, or 21-7 WE LOSE THIS GAME. Game Over,Season Over. Well Viking Fans, Every game that C Blunder plays is one GAME CLOSER TO THE END OF THIS FAKE.

  258. By Richard1A on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Vikes need a wish bone play, the one where the qb runs with the runningback, the qb can either run or pitch to the runningback,,with Webb in qb!

  259. By Vlad19 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    That nonsense about Ponder is bad because his O-line is bad, Ponder is scared because of last year’s trouble with the line… Amazing.

    You do know he is a professional athlete? You do know it is HIS obligation to play NFL level football and his FEAR is HIS to overcome. The line does not KNOW where Ponder will be because Ponder IS scared and abandons the pocket (great example is he had Wright before he emptied pocket to the left, and subsequent throw, Ponder didn’t step into it and underthrew by 5-10 yards). He is light in the heart, he is NOT courageous, he doesn;t want anything to do with a pocket.

    NONE of this is professional behavior from a professional QB. Any suggestion that a professional QB is afraid because of last year is just plain ridiculous and NOT true. For no other reason he MUST overcome it as a professional if for nothing else.

    It boils down to Ponder being unable. And yes, that is disturbing, whether we won today or not. Last week was the polar opposite – Ponder made sure we lost and no one can even argue that.

  260. By john 61 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    did you hear someone, egged fraizer house,two hit his house,two to the left,two to the right, two hit the house behind fraizers,the cops have a suspect his name c ponder

  261. By Vlad19 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn, being happy for a win has a double edge, because it causes some to rest easy with a very miserably bad QB.. what’s more, we should have 9 wins right now if Ponder didn’t Ponderize a couple games…

    And just because we are better doesn’t calm a competitor and nor should it. EACH game is an opportunity to win and when we see our “leader” play like he has for how many weeks now….. it is good reason to be discontented and wish for a better answer.

    Being BETTER should always be the objective, no matter if we are making progress. The nature of competition.

  262. By Vlad19 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    That’s funny John61…. I would bet he couldn’t hit the barn either!

  263. By vikes- or - die on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    You bring up a good point. It’s not all together Ponders fault. BUT he is the QB. He needs to own it.

  264. By Vlad19 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Yea vikes d or d, but it comes as lip service, cliches and never any real meat to his “accountability”. Ponder does himself in on the football field. This needs to change – I could care less if we are “better” or “we were expected to win.. blah, blah”, we HAVE the opportunity and there is ONE chronic piece that is absurdly consistent in his poor performance and his post game press cliches.

    Guess who that guy is. Needs to change. Team needs to believe in their QB. Right now they are believing in Peterson and just glad we have him. This would have been a 10 loss season for sure without him. Probably more.

  265. By Dueyz on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Too much in here to get into, but I will say it’s time for Ponder’s bottom to get more familiar with the pine bench.This failed experiment has gone sideways on us too many times, and will do so even more if we don’t stop it.

    Ponder supporters go ahead and tell me, “you don’t understand the progression of a QB”, “he needs time to develop”, “look at such and such QBs of the past that started this way”, “if we just replace the OC”, “if we just get a better O-Line”, “if he had better receivers”, ………..THE GUY IS DONE. Changing any/all of those things will help MIN, but will never change the fact that this QB is not the guy. Read it, absorb it, accept it, get onboard with a change.

  266. By Don Good on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    And here is another fact that scrub Blunder was the leader out there today. Bears Scored, and we got the ball around the 45 or so, and all we need is 1 First Down and game over. So the Bears stacked everyone up on or near the line, since they knew AD would get the ball, he gets 2 yds. next play he gets 4 yds, It’s 3rd and 4 First down wins it. But no eleven guys stop AD, And we Punt. We dont have a QB that could be trusted to complete a 4 yd pass to win the game, with Eleven Bears on the L O S. I would like to know the last time a running back had more yards running, the the QB Passing for 7STRAIT GAMES>

  267. By john 61 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    ponder will be here ontill 2014 season starts,fraizer is not going to give up on him,mybe we are wrong,mybe he makes it,i do belive fraizer gets a new oc

  268. By vikes- or - die on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Lets say you are in the first grade and you are having trouble with math. According to you the teacher should say you are stupid and be retired with the special ed class. Thats sad because ponder has serious skills, it just hasent translated yet.

  269. By Dueyz on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    For those Ponder supporters who insist that all he needs is time, It is time someone stepped up and referred you to the T-Jack fan club. Every word you type has already been typed by the T-Jack fans who couldn’t accept reality .This attempt has run its course, and it is BEYOND time that a change is made. Stop arguing, stop blasting those who want the change, and understand what your team needs to win. Ponder is NOT THE GUY!

  270. By Vlad19 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    What the heck are you jumping me for? I agreed with you. Holy smokes.

    But while we are at it, what did I say that was wrong????? You are going to say Ponder is good? and his pressers filled with cliches is actual “accountability”?

    Wow, talk about a turnaround. And why assault me? If you are a Ponder supporter, fine, but clean up your verbal assault on other good and active posters. We are all hear for the same reason more or less – we want to see a good football team and maybe play-offs.

    Sheesh. But fact is I played the game, was recruited by Ga Tech, blew a knee and went away from the game from there, other than loving it and studying it and knowing it. So verbally assault me all you want. You are wrong, and you expose your own immaturity by assaulting a guy who agrees with you.

  271. By VA Vike Fan on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Thank you Adrian and thank you defense! Ponder only turned the ball over 1 time so we had chance! He’s still terrible tho

  272. By vikes- or - die on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Don Good, that was a good call. You run the ball. Our “D” was playing lights out and our running game was kicking ass. The Passsing game will come, just thank God we have a great running game and defense.

  273. By Vlad19 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    And vike d or d, tell me about Ponder’s “serious skill”. Name one.

    Is it he can’t read defenses? Can’t pick up the blitz? He picks his receiver over center? Happy feet? Can’t stay in the pocket? flushes over the top of the pocket about 90% of the time, can’t step up in the pocket – making him as easy a guy to gameplan for as a D coordinator could dream of….

  274. By Dueyz on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder can’t fit into the NFL level. He tries, and wants to. The people who drafted him want him to. But he just….can’t. He can’t fit in. It overwhelms him. His arm can’t fire that strong; his skill can’t lead a receiver; his mind doesn’t know pro football that well; his nerves can’t allow him to stay in the pocket; his guesses are interceptions. I hope for a good offseason. SKOL!

  275. By CaribooBill on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    An interesting factoid:
    The Vikes have not lost two games this year to any team – think SF and Chicago.
    They have 2 games left with teams they have lost to – Houston and GB.

  276. By Vlad19 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Dueys, good remarks. Another very good point made in an article about Ponder, he can only play half the field, he only sees one side, terribly limiting, and easy to d plan against him. He flushes and rolls RIGHT almost exclusively, it is a high school move and doesn’t belong in NFL.

    You are right, it is overwhelming him. I just wonder HOW BADLY a guy has to play to get some people to admit it. But he needs a rest. But the fear of a game other guys play and win for him, it give Frazier reason for the support and complimentary commentary… “Christian did a good job leading this team…”

    HUH? ADRIAN is leading this team, there is NO question about it. Thank the Lord we have him!

  277. By vikes- or - die on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    i am sorry you blew your knee out, but that does not excuse your ignorance or all knowing eye from defect. Ponder needs more time to catch up to the NFL level. If you cant see he has skills, I am sorry, but you are blind.

  278. By rye on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    I take back my critical comment about ponder. I listened to the game initially on the radio. I am watching the game on nfl rewind and it doesn’t seem as bad as it sounded. Maybe thre is still hope for Ponder. He better learn fast if the vikings have any shot at the playoffs.

  279. By Vlad19 on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Name one skill he has – I noticed you didn’t name one. Scouts can’t even name anything of significance – the best thing they can say is he played in pro-style offense in college.

    Ponder was a projected 3rd round at best. EVERYONE in the world was shocked at the pick and Ponder himself will prove why they were all shocked.


    Hold onto your hope vikes d or d, it is an empty hand – and since you are so into offending others, that empty hand will match perfectly with your empty head.

    ZING! I can play on the playground the same as you jr.

  280. By vikes- or - die on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder has happy feet. Plain and simple. Ponder knows it, you know it, anybody that knows anything about NFL football knows it. But guess what, it is correctable, the game will slow down for him, and then we can grade him. Its to early yet.

  281. By vikes- or - die on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    And by the way, hope is all we have, with out it you are lost.

  282. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    You may be right– too early. I was able to review the first half tonight as I missed it earlier– not as bad as I thought. Ponder may develop into a decent QB– my main issue is that you do not lose game after game when it is obvious your most important position is playing horribly– and that I blame on the coaches. Surely, with a change in QBs a few weeks ago, we would be the leading wild card contender, if not ready to win the division. It does not help Ponder develop by leaving him in to keep losing– let him keep losing confidence and also send a message to him that mediocrity is okay– it is not. You have 53 players and thousands of fans who want to win–

  283. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Hope is good, but you better have corresponding action or all you have is a fantasy.

  284. By Vlad19 on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Never better said Titus, HOPE is great, but when practical FACT is overlooked hope is as empty as a poor man’s pocket. Without asset, talent, REAL skill, pocket presence and courage, you cannot find success in the NFL QB spot.

    Ponder’s FEAR does not impress me with hope, and his speed is perhaps the ONLy asset he has, and look how historically UNimportant speed is to Super Bowl QBs or Pro-Bowl QBs…..

    as some might suggest, speed is a skill… it is not, it is an asset for escapability – but watch the great QBs and they slide and buy time and throw from the pocket – sometimes only 3 feet across with guys in their face. But they THROW. So speed is NOT a skill set a QB much values at the spot. It is the only thing remotely considered a “skill” for Ponder.

    Otherwise Titus, you are dead on imo, hope offers little if there isn’t something real to hang your hat on.

  285. By CaribooBill on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Watched the game again specifically to see how Ponder performed.
    I would say he played well – not great.
    On the first drive, his first pass was a good throw on 3rd and 8 to Jenkins for a first down – he kept the drive alive and the Vikes scored their first TD.
    Two more for first downs in first half.
    A very nice, on-target in-stride throw to Aromashodu that he should have caught for 55 yards.
    A bad decision on first down deep middle to Wright off his back foot underthrown. for about 50 yarsd and an interception EXCEPT that there was only 40 seconds left in the first half.

  286. By CaribooBill on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Second Half: First pass incomplete – under pressure.
    His second pass of the second half was a nice pass to Jenkins on 3rd and 7 from our 4 yard line for another first down.
    3rd pass – under pressure – thrown away.
    4th pass – under pressure – loss of 2.
    5th pass – 3rd and 7 – fantastic throw and catch to Jenkins another first down to keep drive going and eat up more clock. This was the drive at the end of the third quarter that started on the 1 yard line and reversed the field position so that the Bears had to start their next drive deep in their end – this was a turning point in the game, in my opinion.
    I am trying to be objective here and I think Ponder did his part – he didn’t have any fumbles and the only interception he threw was at a time where Chicago had no time left to do anything with it.
    Like I said – not great, but he played well, coming up with good throws at critical times to keep drives going.
    The question is: Can he do this on the road?

  287. By Jayson Child on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    There is a lot of Ponder bashing here because of his inconsistent play and inability to get the ball down the field. The question is, can he be a franchise QB? In my opinion, the answer is yes. I have seen some good things from Ponder (despite his recent decline) and I believe that as fans, we need to be patient. Take a look at these stats for a QB and tell me if you think they are the stats of what you would consider to be of a franchise QB:

    Rookie season
    only one game played 221 yards, 1 TD, 0 int, 94.8 rating

    2nd season
    3,284 yards, 17 TD, 16 int, 76.9 rating

    3rd season (note the decline)
    2108 yards, 11 TD, 15 Int**, 67.5 rating

    These numbers are very similar to that of Christian Ponder (if not worse). So are these the stats of a franchise QB? well, these are the first 3 year stats of a QB named Drew Brees and we all know how he turned out. Ponder may not be playing at a franchise QB level right now but THAT DOES NOT MEAN that he will not be in the future. I believe that if the Vikes can add a big time WR and do a better job of pass protecting, Christian Ponder will progress into that franchise QB. What is so wrong with just being patient? I would much rather be patient with Ponder while he developes then go and sign some old vteran QB

  288. By Jayson Child on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Here are Ponders stats so far

    11 158 291 54.3 1,853 6.37 13 TD, 13 INT, 70.1

    13 251 401 62.6 2,396 5.98 14 TD, 12 INT, 78.3

  289. By Tampavike on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder’s longest completion Sunday went for 16 yards. He finished with 91 passing yards, marking the third game this season that Ponder failed to reach triple digits.

    NUFF SAID!!!

  290. By realviking on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Nice win against the bears AP, our defense and special team got the job done.
    I’m tired of hearing the media talk about us being one dimension like its not obvious already we don’t have a quarterback.
    I hope everyone realize that were only playing so AP can get 2000 yards because their is no way they should think that we could win a ring relying on AP so much.
    I don’t know what Frazier was seeing out their but 91 yards and an int is not a great job leading a team AP was the leader not Ponder.
    17 attempts you only see that from teams who don’t trust in their quarterback but I like the W I hope AP can continue to carry us, because its obvious Frazier won’t put a quarterback on the field that can actually help the guy.

  291. By Gilberator on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    The deep ball to Aromashadu hit him right on the shoulder. That would have been 50 more yards and a TD if he caught it. You cant blame Ponder for that. The pick was all his fault but hey, why not give it a shot with the amount of time that was on the clock before the half. He completed a few crucial 3rd downs as well. Stellar QB play? No definitely not. Good enough? Yes I would say so.

  292. By Gilberator on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    CaribooBill-Right on. Didnt see that comment. I agree though that deep ball to Arom should have been a catch. I think with a good WR pick in the draft, Ponders play will increase. That was actually really good to see. That was a PERFECT ball. Too bad Arom didnt catch it.

  293. By realviking on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier wants a game manager that’s why he’s satisfied with Ponders garbage stats.
    The 49ers had the same thing in Alex Smith but they also have two running backs sometimes three.
    The way we’re relying in AP to do it all I fear for his health I thought last season would’ve been a wake up call.
    I’ve seen many great running backs get overused the guy obviously needs some help I get scared every time I see one of those guys hit him below the waist.

  294. By MuskyFever on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply


    For all of you out there that believe in your heart that Ponder is (1) the franchise QB or could be and (2) played well and efficiant throughout the game yesterday…..YOU DON’T KNOW A DARN THING ABOUT FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Ponder play was pitiful and getting worse. I don’t even know if I can continue to read what people say about Ponder and his stats and how there were QBs with worse stats throughout history… SO EFFING WHAT!!!!!!!!!! you fail to realize that most of his stats are jaded. They came during garbage time at the end of games where we had no chance to win. Or he threw it BEHIND THE LINE OF SCRIMAGE to Harvin and harvin took it for a 50 yrd pass play. These are just some of the examples.

    I am also pretty sure that Yesterday was Ponders 4th or 5th game with less than 100 yards. You want to argu that he only three 6 incompletions fine. Then I will argue that his longest throw was to J. Wright for 16 yrads and 11 of that was Jarius Wright running the ball.. I should get paid as much as him, because even I think I could do the things that this team is asking him to do.

    Fraizer.. You may or may not belive what you spoke but you did say, that Ponder played efficiant football and did a bunch of good things. Ummm… your kidding right. 11 for 17 for 91 yards and an INT. No offensive TDs for the remainder 52 minutes of the game. And the seocond one had nothing to do with Ponder outside of handing AP the ball. It was a five yard run by AP. Robinson took it the other 50 uards.

    THIS QB IS TERRIBLE!!!!!! I love the Vikes and am very happy about the win. but if this QB continue to show nothing and the coaches continue to praise him for it… I might just go off the deep end

  295. By Kathy P on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    At CaribooBill; What you stated as far as the interception is concerned really bothers me. He threw an interception on FIRST DOWN!!!! Why in the world did he do that? All the commentators said the same thing. He should have pushed for the goal line instead of throwing it into full coverage, as he has done before. We possibly could of at least kicked a field goal. He doesn’t seem to have very good judgement with where/whom he throws the ball to(yes,even if they are open). The WR’s seemed to be able to get more separation yesterday, but Ponder, for some reason is unable to have that ability to “scout quickly” for someone. It almost seems like he “knows” who he wants to attempt to throw to before the ball is even snapped and if his primary receiver is covered he doesn’t have a “back-up plan” as to whom he can throw it too.He has had 24 games to show some improvement over time. He HAS NOT done this. And for Frazier to laud him and say he was pleases with Ponders performance just goes to show how ludicrous HIS thoughts are as well. Many posters are saying he is “scared” from last yr. Well, I say to that: Man up you wimp,you are getting paid to play professional football, not some flag-touch football in HS yrs. If you can’t cut it then you need to be replaced with someone whom doesn’t have those fears. You have the intellect to achieve a Masters Degree, but yet, you can’t seem to get a mindset for NFL-type football. Congrats to AP/Defense for stepping-up to the occasion. My hopes for continued success with reaching your goal AP. One more thing, IF JC Watts plays in the Houston game, guess what; Ponder will be on his arse more than not. “Welcome to the Big Boys Club” Ponder!!!!

  296. By realviking on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply


    At least you admit what you see out their some of these fans overlook Ponders terrible play because we won.
    We win the game because the coaches game plan was to keep the ball out of Ponders hands that’s was obvious.
    Why did we waste a 1st round pick on a quarterback who coaches are afraid to let throw the ball.
    We ran AP 31 times that’s more then the 18 touches he’s used to getting that’s because Frazier knows deep down inside we can’t win throwing the ball.
    This guy is throwing for 91 yards I’m sure we could’ve got an undrafted free agent quarterback to do that instead of wasting that pick. And lets not forget Jennings and Urlacher wasn’t their.

  297. By CaribooBill on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Kathy: The interception was the result of a bad decision, for sure. Was the play itself a bad idea – I don’t think so. You have 40 seconds left in the half and you are on your own 39 yard line. We haven’t been great at moving down the field so taking a shot, in my view, was not a bad idea. I totally agree that he hasn’t shown much improvement, but I have enough confidence in Frazier/Spielman to go along with their decisions.

  298. By CaribooBill on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Realviking: Frazier has repeatedly said that the Vikings are a run first team that plays good defense to win games. That is exactly what they did yesterday. All I am saying is that Ponder played his part in that. This team, like it or not, has been built to run the ball and is doing it against 8 and 9 man in the box. It is incredible to me that this is actually working. It is old school football – a throwback to the 60’s era of Bud Grant.

  299. By Kathy P on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    I have confidence in my team as a whole. I have NO confidence in Ponder,Frazier,Musgrave,Spielman right now. Poor,poor decisions from the higher-ups and flowing on downhill to the rest. Someone, anyone isnt able to man up and accept the poor decisions which are being made week after week. And, If it was only one bad decision being made maybe one could live with that. BUT, this is an ongoing/stagnant process which goes on over and over again. CaribooBill, you are entitled to your opinions, as all of us are on this site. But, one cannot expect different outcomes if the same thing is allowed to happen week after week with no indication of adjustments being made to correct the problem. We have become a one-dimensional team. One cannot expect to win games being one-dimensional forever. It’s very frustrating for us “die-hard” fans to see that NO, absolutely NO PROGRESS/IMPROVEMENT is being made. It’s like we are stuck in a black-hole at times.

  300. By MontanaViking on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Someone should tell Frazier that “denial” is a river in Egypt. Ponder’s success at QB cannot be “talked” into reality. It has reached the point where a “fluke” performance would have him passing for “more” than 100 yards. SAD!!

  301. By Troutdaddy on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    No whining here from me. We are at 7 and 6. Most people on this blog did not think we would get to 6 wins. If by chance (and I do mean chance) we win out, we finish at 10 and 6 and that would be incredible. It could happen, but like most people I do not think it will happen due to the fact that we are so one-dimensional right now. Sorry but the running game is not going to seal it for us. If we can’t put a throwing attack together for the next 3 games then we may get one more win and finish 8 and 8. Still respectable for a rebuilding team. I predicted 9 and 6 before the season started and I would be exstatic if we ended up that way! So- I am going to remain optimistic and hope for the best and that we see some miracle take place. It has happend to lesser teams before and who knows, maybe if we stay on Santa’s nice list then he will bring us a Christmas play-off present?

  302. By northwoodsv2 on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Can anyone post a video of the throw to Aroma? I’ll admit Aroma should have fought for it and caught it, but it appeared that he had to slow down, turn around and try making the catch as he was falling backwards.

    If that’s the case, I would not call it a “perfect” throw. If Ponder put another 2-3 yards on it Aroma makes an easy catch without interference from the D.

    Would like to see it again if anyone can post it.

  303. By MontanaViking on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    One definition for “crazy” is repeating the same behavior over and over and expecting a different result. Time for Joe Webb!!

  304. By MuskyFever on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    With how Ponder plays QB… I’m shocked we have more than two wins at all.. Happy about the record but it has nothing to do with Ponder….

    If Ponder was not the QB I’m convinced that we would have at least 9 wins.

    Ponder has thrown more games this year for us than he has won… AND THATS A FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!

  305. By MuskyFever on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    It wont matter even if we made the Playoffs. Those are all teams that have some type of balance between their pass and run O and their pass and run D…

    We have that same balance on D, but nothing even remotely close on O. We would get embarrassed if we went to the playoffs. Did you see Seattle yesterday put up 58 points against them… you know one of the reasons why??? THEIR QB KNOWS HOW TO THROW THE ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  306. By Tim S on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    the average time a QB has to throw the ball is 2.7 seconds. Ponder over the last 3 games has had 3.1….Hes over the average of most and still cant get it done. Chew on that for while

  307. By northwoodsv2 on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    People are right – we need to stop bashing Ponder and figure out how to beat the Rams.

    My suggestion is to bench Ponder and let a QB with some arm strength, pocket presence, and ability to lead a receiver hand off to AP and make the occasional throws needed.

  308. By Pablo on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply





  309. By Vikes Mike on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    The problem I have is that if Joe Webb or McLeod Bethel-something aren’t ready to step in when needed, then why are they our back ups?! So blame Spielman while we’re at it. Honestly, I don’t think Joe Webb could possibly do much worse than Ponder has and might add a dimension that could open up the field. In any case, they need to bring in a veteran QB this off season to replace Ponder. It isn’t working out. Oh, good win though!

  310. By Johnny on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    his footwork, presence and arm strength on a late throw to an open Wright down the seam was painful to watch. So, too, was Ponder’s postgame reaction, when he said in part: “I had a flat to the left that I probably should have taken.” Wright was open for a 61-yard touchdown. You want your quarterback kicking himself for not making a better throw to capitalize, not wishing he had dumped it off to avoid the interception he threw because the ball fell short of an open receiver.

  311. By Jenny on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is just not the man. He seems lazy and too full of himself. I’d like to see how much he really practices. Look at Ponder, and then remember how Favre was during games With Favre, you always knew he REALLY wanted to win, and if that meant he was going to get hit and banged up a lot, he would do it to win. Ponder throws like he’s in watching slow motion.

  312. By James on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    How was his interception a bad decision??? Wright had the whole team beat!!! Ponder just couldn’t get the ball to him! Makes me wonder if some people in here knows football!!

  313. By norsejeremyw on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Did anyone else see on the news y’day? M. Jenkins tellls cameradude the status of Harvin, and states that…Oh, (pretty much) we have to play, now? WTF?

  314. By norsejeremyw on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    It seems as though Frazier wants the same formula as Buccs, and Ravens did when they won their superbowls, meaning don’t cough up the ball to the other team. Alot of pressure on our D, it seems.

  315. By norsejeremyw on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    @ Johnny, thanks for the above footage! Quite enjoyable~ Does anyone recall the game where Frerotte kept burnin the 9ers’ secondary?

  316. By megakrab on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    GO TEXANS!!!

  317. By megakrab on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    Looks like the Texans will be playing hard when we play them… They’ll still be fighting for home field advantage thru out.

  318. By Pablo on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply


    we need if chicago win the next sunda , we can win the division in the last game
    also we need chicago lose with lions

    if chicago lose with gb the nex monday , we need th 49ers lose with pats posible and also with seattle posible , than they can finish 9-6-1

    we also need to dallas lost one wash lost one and vikings wins all

    is not so hard , is it ?

  319. By pondersucks07 on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply

    ponder has the lowest comp pct over ten yds down field,he makes tjack look like a hall of famer.should drafted ryan mallett.if the vikings didnt draft ponder he wouldnt have been drafted at all.his stats in college were horrible.never in the top twenty in any poss. catagory

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