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Commitment To Run Key To Breaking Bears On 3rd Down

Posted by Mike Wobschall on December 7, 2012 – 7:31 am

When it comes to the battle on 3rd down between the Vikings offense and the Bears defense, there’s good news and bad news. The bad news is that the Vikings rank just 23rd in 3rd-down offense (35.5%) and the Bears rank 3rd in 3rd-down defense (34.4%). The good news, though, is that the Vikings can flip that stat around on Sunday by using their dominant rushing attack.

The Bears yield 4+ yards on 1st down rushes at a 47.7% clip this year, which ranks 26th in the NFL. Given that stat, it’s unusual that the Bears would have such a good 3rd-down defense. You’d think that facing 2nd-and-6 or less nearly half the time would lead to much success on 3rd down against the Bears. Here’s the problem: teams don’t stay committed to the run against this Bears defense.

On 2nd downs against the Bears this season, opponents have passed the ball 62.1% of the time; they’ve called 148 passes compared to just 90 rushes. And while the Bears are one of the NFL’s worst 1st-down rushing defenses, they are one of the NFL’s top 2nd-down passing defenses. The Bears have yielded just a 67.1 passer rating on 2nd down, 3rd-best in the NFL, and they are 1st in the NFL with 8 INTs on 2nd down. What this means is that teams get ahead of schedule in the down-and-distance on 1st down via the ground game, but then they go to the air on 2nd down, which allows the Bears defense to catch up and, more times than not, put the opposing offense in 3rd-and-long.

In total, the Bears defense has faced the 3rd-fewest rushes in the NFL. Teams run the ball against the Bears 23.25 times per game. In contrast, the Vikings average 28 carries per game.

Long story longer, Chicago has one of the NFL’s best defenses, on any down. They lead the NFL in takeaways with 34, they are 2nd in scoring defense, they have a top 10 defense against the run and the pass, and they rank 5th in total defense. But the numbers above illustrate that teams haven’t challenged them by staying committed to the run. The Vikings have the best RB in the NFL and the League’s 3rd-ranked run game. If any team can challenge this Bears defense on the ground it’s the Vikings.

It will be interesting to see if that’s what the Vikings do on Sunday when the Bears visit Mall of America Field.


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485 Responses to “Commitment To Run Key To Breaking Bears On 3rd Down”

  1. By Dan Hulse on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Do you think it would be possible for the Vikes to pick up QB Alex Smith from SF next season.

  2. By vikingbob136 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder can’t complete a pass over 20 yards so AP should just take a direct snap from center and run the ball 35 times.

  3. By vikingbob136 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Tell Gerhart he doesn’t need pads because he probably won’t play.
    Tell Joe Webb to dress warmly because he won’t play.
    Tell Frazier to help the offense because Musgrave can’t.

  4. By MuskyFever on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Commitment to the run, ensures a low number of Ponder overthrows and INT’s

  5. By northwoodsv2 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Musgrave’s new name: R2P2

    Run, Run, Pass, Punt.

  6. By purplehaze1 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    commitment to the run…translation…after AP has snapped off a big chunk of yardage; we will unleash our dreaded CP 7 assault weapon on ‘em…GO VIKES!!!

  7. By novascotiavike on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I couldn’t help but notice that the lyrics to “Sister Christian”, a 1984 hit by Night Ranger, contains some eerily prophetic lines when applied to our QB.
    So, with apologies to Night Ranger, here is ” Mr. Christian “……..

    Mister Christian
    Oh the time has come
    And you know that you’re the only one
    To say O.K.
    Where you going
    What you looking for
    You know those boys
    Don’t want to play no more with you
    It’s true……..

    Babe you know
    You’re growing up so fast
    And mama’s worrying
    That you won’t last
    To say let’s play……..

  8. By Mike B. on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I agree with the Webb dress warmly and have your clipboard as he will be on the bench. Ponder is going to start this game and I think it’s the right move for this team. We have 4 games left and our playoff chances are alive but barely. I think Frazier needs to stay with his plan for the season to the point that Ponder is not losing a game to his performance from here out. At that point bring in Webb or MBT and have them finish the game. I think this should be the plan for the rest of the season. When there is no chance for making the playoffs open it up for Webb or MBT to play a half.

  9. By Mike B. on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I think some misunderstood my blog. I was saying if Harvin is being disruptive to the team. Like Moss, he should be cut from the team. That is a coaches and GM decision. You don’t need a disruptive player on the team. I don’t care how frustrated you are or how talented you are. You are getting paid by the organizaiton. You need to keep your mouth shut until the doors are closed or you leave or asked to leave. I must add I hope that is not the case here as I really like Harvin’s playing ability, but you can’t keep a troublemaker on the team.

  10. By northwoodsv2 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Mike, why do you feel the benchmark rating period has to be a complete season?

    Many, many people (not just fans, but sports analysts/commentators, even Percy Harvin – don’t you think he is a good judge of football talent?) don’t believe in Ponder after what we’ve been shown thus far.

    In my line of work, a new hire gets a 3-month probation period to prove they can do the job. That equates to 1/4 of a football season. Ponder has had much more than that.

  11. By Mike B. on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    In team sport Rule 1 The coach is always right Rule 2 See Rule 1.

  12. By novascotiavike on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I would rather have Harvin as a WR/KR/Troublemaker than Ponder as a terrilbe QB.

  13. By novascotiavike on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    *terrible

  14. By Mike B. on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    The coach and obviously the GM have spent a lot of effort to promoting Ponder as the QB of the Vikings. They feel he isn’t to the point of putting in a back up or cutting ties. So no I don’t agree with those here that feel he has nothing left to improve on. I am willing to give the Organization all season to show that Ponder is the guy. As a fan I get disappointed about lost games, but that doesn’t mean I don’t support the team for the rest of the season. Childress had 4 years to improve this team to be Superbowl calibre. He couldn’t do it through the draft, so he got FAs to build the team. He almost got it done, but then let it all slide. Frazier in his second year has improved this team from last year. He wants to stick with Ponder, and I see no reason not to support that decision. If he continues to slide the rest of the year then not only should Ponder be reevaluated so should the entire coaching staff. IMO

  15. By Mike B. on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    How long would you last if you yelled at your boss and caused disruptions even if you’re right. I would imagine not very long.

  16. By novascotiavike on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I’m betting he’ll have a new boss.

  17. By MuskyFever on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    As much as I like Harvin I do agree with you Mike B about getting him off the team if he is only going to cause issues.

  18. By Vikingz on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Yes please get Alex Smith, actually anyone but Vick. I am tired of the stupidity but hey Sunday is coming and we get to watch it all over again. If Ponder sucks in the first quarter he needs to be benched plain and simple. Personally I do not like Webb is quarterback so hopefully they won’t play him either. Either way, if Ponder sucks and is not benched then Fraser needs to be fired.

  19. By MuskyFever on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I am not a Ponder fan. If it were up to me he would be benched at least for a game or a half already. But Its not that there is nothing to improve on… HE HAS EVERYTHING TO IMPROVE ON!!! I can’t think of one thing he does right other than hand the rock to AP. And sometimes he even drops the ball then too. I just feel no comfort from him as our QB. Just reading his eyes when they show him on a replay.. He looks TERRIFIED!!!!!!!!!!! Whether he starts the rest of the season or not, if he starts to play poorly they better pull him back to the becnh. Everytime he plays terrible and the coaches continue to do nothing is where my frustration really comes in. It seems as if they can’t make that decision on thier own, more like the need zigy to hold their hand or something

  20. By Bluebird7 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B

    Even if Ponder earns his paycheck ($375,000) and somehow manages to keep the ball on our side of the field, and takes a win for (His Team) as he puts it, that will not prove anything that he is the chosen one to lead the Vikings anywhere!

    His paycheck is bottom pay for a GOOD QB, & about what he is worth anywhere.

  21. By northwoodsv2 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    They feel he isn’t to the point of benching……..which says they are fine with losing games that we could be winning right now.

    Unacceptable. It’s a team sport – you do what’s best for the team, not one player on the team.

  22. By cshileds9 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Ponders not that bad. he’s doing better than most, but give him time and he’ll do us good. just you wait.

  23. By MuskyFever on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    BB7… I usually agree with what you say.. Even if he wins out (doubtfull) it will be because AP stomped on D’s. Not because Ponder threw for 300+ and four TD’s in a game..

    I don’t think he is fit to lead. He can start the rest of the year for all I care, but after 22 starts and 23 games played.. no improvement has been made, time for a new QB and new leadership from the OC side of the ball

  24. By Bluebird7 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Joe Webb has stated that he is ready in case he is called up.

    Lets see if that happens. Won’t hold my breath to long.

    Joe, by the way, is a TEAM PLAYER, and said he won’t make waves on QB deal.

    All he said was he is ready if called on. Period. I for one will be watching for him.

  25. By MuskyFever on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    @ cshileds9 “he is doing better than most”..
    ______________________________________________________________

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

    I’m not sure what football you have been watching, but it can’t be the NFL

  26. By Vikingz on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    All this speculation about Harvin is frustrating. I know if I was Harvin I would be even more vocal about what is happening. Seriously lets put ourselves in his shoes. He gets paid to catch the ball thats about it. So if you were paid to catch a ball and the organization tells you we have a QB for you but there is a problem, he can’t play QB and you will have to try and catch the ball if he sees you, and its some where near you, I believe you would get frustrated as well. Ponder can’t even sell a play action pass with the best RB in the game. Coaches are needed to be fired right now or we are gonna lose our only WR that is worth anything. Whats next? Peterson has to rush 60 times a game for 400 yards so we can compete? Great lets get him injured again.

  27. By Bluebird7 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Another thing, Mike B, I agree with the “Disruptive” statement on Percy Harvin!

    He is VERY Disruptive to the other team when he is running thu their Defense!

    None of you were ever in ear shot when he was disruptive to anyone.

    Muskyfever: Harvin is also my favorite Viking

  28. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    why is Wobbles always talking about what the defense has to do? the story is about what is our passing offense rated 32 nd in the league going to do. what good is it going to do if the defense shuts down their offense when Ponder can’t even throw the football?

  29. By Bluebird7 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Muskyfever

    Tell him to watch the Chicago game Sunday..Might just change his mind…..

  30. By Mike B. on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I have said how I feel you can all be frustrated or ride this out and see what happens. I would rather cheer the team than continue all this negativity.

  31. By northwoodsv2 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Why should the team get rid of Harvin simply because he’s frustrated with the poor play of the rest of the team? He’s a proven winner.

    Yet they should keep Ponder, who’s shown he can’t improve after 23 games????

  32. By Vikingz on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B. its not negativity when its the truth. I love the vikings, I have been a fan for as long as I have watched football which has been for a fairly long time. Lets just say I was a huge fan of Ahmad Rashad and leave it at that. I will always be a Viking Fan and I will always support them. I do however feel that changes need to be made now, not next year. Too many times I have seen this team waste talent trying to develop someone else when they know its the wrong option.

  33. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    if the only way we can get a better qb is by firing Frazier,yelling FIRE FRAZIER AT THE HOME GAMES IS THE WAY TO GO

  34. By MuskyFever on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    BB7… Harvin and winfield are tied for first as my favorite Vikings players. AP is a close 2nd and H. Smith is 3rd

  35. By MuskyFever on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I wonder how Ponder is going to react when he comes out for the first series and gets booed right off the bat. I wonder if he will do what Alex Smith did a few years back when his stadium was calling for Carr. And he came out and scored two TDs in less than 4 minutes. Or if he will crumble from the non support. Part of me feels like he will actaully play better to prove us wrong… But then logic kicks in and I realize that if he starts forcing throws against the Bears D he is going to throw pick after pick after pick

  36. By die hard 67 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I believe Ponder is going to develop into a very good franchise qb , but it is going to take one more year of development. Everyone should be patient, he has had 5 or 6 good games this year and 5 not so good games , typical for a young developing qb to me……….

  37. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    so the games he played last year don’t count? he has had plenty of time, he has no skill set, he needs to go bye bye at the end of the year

  38. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    i believe Andrew Luck ends up being better than P. Manning

  39. By die hard 67 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    He played some very good games last year with no training camp ota,s etc..etc…

  40. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I agree the story if this game is what our 32nd ranked passing offense has to do.

  41. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    PAY PERCY

  42. By Parkway on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    He has only been worse this year, 0 improvement in any part of his game.

  43. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    he has had one good game, not 5 or 6. Ponder would be 1-11 now without AP

  44. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Thats better

  45. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    i bet Ponder gets Boood the minute he steps on the field

  46. By Parkway on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I’m sure he will, it will probably be a KC incident all over if he gets injured and Webb comes in.

  47. By MuskyFever on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    @ die hard 67

    You said that he has had 5 or 6 good games. HE HAS PLAYED 23 GAMES!!!! that means that he has had 17 or so bad games… I think that these stats are not in your arugments favor…

  48. By Bluebird7 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Zero good games would have been better,, Then we would be looking for a QB

  49. By Mike B. on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I think you would all need to include Spielman in your firing chant as I am sure he supports Fraizer’s decision.

  50. By Parkway on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Not sure I would even say 5-6 good games, he had 5-6 games where he managed the game. He got lucky in about 3 of them that his terrible decisions were dropped by DBs.

    At first I thought “wow he throws a really nice touch pass” but I now realize that that is the only throw in his arsenal because he does not have a strong enough arm for any other throw.

  51. By realviking on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Dalton, and Newton had good seasons last year without any offseason activities Ponder at least got to sit and wait but those guys were immediate starters.

    I’m not waiting for Ponder to develop that guy has shown he’s a bust in the makings. The Panthers drafted Clauson high they gave him one season to prove his self during that season he got benched because he sucked. If they said that they should give him another chance they wouldn’t have Newton right now.

  52. By MuskyFever on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    So Ponders Theme song should be… That Smell – By: Lynard Skynard

    Ooooo oooo that smell, Can’t you smell Ponder’s smell… Ooooo oooo that smell, the smell that surrounds him…

    Cause he STINKS!!

  53. By Troutdaddy on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    So sad to hear that Harvin is out for the rest of the season. I think that a lot of people are worried that Harvin is going to go play somewhere else. Do not fuel this rumor. Harvin is not going to go anywhere. The Vikes know what they have in him. The will keep him around. His attitude is not one of a Diva. He is just passionate about playing and winning and even though at times he has been vocal, he is not going to ruin a good thing here. In the mean time it doesn;t sound like the coaches are going to use anyone other than who is already here to fill his gap. All I can say is that Simpson and Wright are going to have a huge opportunity now to close out the season strong and make a name for themselves. I sure hope they realize the opportunity that is in front of them. Mark my words on this- if Ponder struggles in the game this week and can’t show improvement, then we are going to see a change at QB possibly in the game. I think that Frazier knows that this is the game that breaks the camels back and it is now on his head too. After all it is his decision and if he does not have the guts to do it, then he is showing his worth as a leader in not making the tough call. It is do or die time….

  54. By MuskyFever on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Has any one noticed that when he misses the reciever it is never an over throw, always and under throw??? Can you say arm strength

  55. By Troutdaddy on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    As far as Spielman goes, he “Inherited” a pretty tough gig as a General Manager, but he had already been there so I think that he has a little stress to worry about a well. His decision-making skills and leadership is one of the keys to the teams success. It is on him too now to step up and help to facilitate change in the weeks to come- including this week… All I can do is qoute Larry the cable guy… “Get R Done!” Purple Friday everyone…. Got my Harvin jersy on for moral support. Pay Percy!

  56. By Mike B. on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I cant’ get a Ponder Shirt in my size so will have to wear my Brett Farve shirt for this game.

  57. By MuskyFever on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Im rocking the Winfield Jersey today. Not really going over to well at work. but they said as long as I keep the work jacket on, were good. So PERFECT!!!!!!!! Same one I’ll be wearing on Sunday for the Home game. I got a walsh Jersey for the away games. Next I will own a H. Smith #22 Jersey. I will wait till ext season tho.

  58. By Mike B. on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Oops been looking at sports stores here I should have been looking at the Gear tab at ole Vikings.com. I can get a Nice Ponder shirt Barroooohhh.

  59. By MuskyFever on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    My wife wears Harvin for home games and Jared Allen for away games. And yes, we have the correct colors for Home and Away

  60. By MuskyFever on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    @ Mike B. If everything goes the way I hope it will. U will only be able to wear that Ponder shirt for 4 more games before we get a new QB.. Don’t waste your money

  61. By Mike B. on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Wearing my “Show your Horns” shirt right now.

  62. By realviking on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier needs to go he is far from head coach material.
    Frazier is afraid to bench players who’s not performing no wonder why Harvin yelled at him. I would be mad to if I was playing my heart out and my offensive coordinator and quarterback were consistently stinking it up and my head coach acts like he doesn’t see it.
    All we get is the same excuse when a player pays bad he says I saw some good things out their,I have to go back and look at the tape. I can understand a player pm the field saying they have to look at the tape but Frazier is on the sidelines how can he never find the problem during games.
    Every team makes half time adjustments when they struggle but not Frazier he takes away the most successful piece and continue with the worst.
    Why does it seem like we have the same game plan every week no matter who we play. What is Frazier seeing on these tapes that he so call watches, this guy is a joke.

  63. By realviking on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I’m going to get a custom made shirt that says bench Ponder fire Frazier, I won’t be wearing my Vikings jersey this week I’ll just stick with my Vikings hat.

  64. By dannyboy on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder makes about $850,000.00 and not $350,000.00.

  65. By 61Vikings on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    We’re finding out that Ponder was indeed a second or third round draft pick not a first round pick, 12th overall!!! This is where egos kick in and this organization doesn’t want to admit just yet that they made a mistake with Ponder!!! He was a huge reach at that pick, but with the Titans trading up and taking Jake Locker, I believe the Vikes panicked and thought they better pick a QB now instead of picking one in the later rounds!! I still think the Vikes could have taken Ponder in the second round and ended up with a better first rounder!!!!

  66. By Mike B. on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    You might as well add a fire Spielman if you are going to throw Frazier under the bus too. Both of them are on the same page.

  67. By realviking on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    No they’re not Spielman is the GM Frazier is the head coach. Spielman got the players its Fraziers Jon to coach them and put this team in position to win.

    Mr. Wilf came out before the season and said NE expect us to win the NFC north this season I think Spielman knew what that means. Frazier failed so if Spielman don’t get rid of him and let him fail again they both won’t have a job. I think Spielman should know by now that Frazier is not the right guy to lead this team.

  68. By realviking on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    If Spielman accepts failure this year and next season is the same trust me I will add his name to the list I’ll be at every home game with my shirt on.
    I bet the camera man won’t miss they’ll notice me because if that’s the direction were heading I’ll be at training camp doing the same thing. I know a lot of fans who’s ready to do the same thing.
    I’m sure Mr.Wilf will see the problem those guys are causing trust me I did the same thing when chilly was here it was a lot of us and look what happened chilly got fired.

  69. By Matthias on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Cool down… Be patient… And don’t start with I am a vikings fan for blanks years… Percy is out for the year…

  70. By Bluebird7 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I am going to wear my Retired Army Uniform complete with all the decorations.

    Why? Look at the date on this blog! I lost family members, good Military Buddies in two wars I was in.

    It is times like these and especialy today that I really don’t give a dam what Ponder does. Nor do I care.

    Military Combat Veteran, Infantry.

  71. By Parkway on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    First Round: Hunter/Allen (WR)
    Second Round: Jones/Bray/Glennon (QB)
    Third Round: Minter (ILB)
    Fourth Round: Best OG/DT

  72. By autobon7 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Good point By northwoodsv2 at the top. How long do we give Ponder before everyone leaves/blows up from frustration? Absolutely ridiculous

  73. By Purple Rain on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    PICK 6 VIDEO MAILBAG: PONDER STILL THE GUY?

    The Answer is

    “NO”

  74. By realviking on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    @Parkway

    If we can get one if those receivers and Childs can come back healthy we’ll have a good team next season.
    Tyler Bray would be a good pick because he’s familiar with Wright and Childs.
    Get rid of Ponder and get Bray we’ll be contenders again.

  75. By Shawn on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    If anyone hasnt watched the Musgrave presser yet … please do. He is delusional and believes he is leading one of the great offenses in the league.

    Musgrave on replacing Harvin “The last few weeks we havent had him and SBurton and JWright have stepped into that role and they really done a fine job for us”

    HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Musgrave on Ponder getting into a rythme “We spend considerable time trying to get off on the right foot and we did in Green Bay. Christian spread it around”

    I am not joking, he actually said that … he is oblivious.

    Musgrave on why Rudolph has better number than WRs “Well I think it depends on the defensive scheme as well and who they want to take away ”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH

    This is our OC … everyone knows there are 9 in the box and the only person the defense is trying to stop is Peterson … EXCEPT MUSGRAVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    At least Frazier acknowledges how bad our pa’ssing game is. Frazier has never denied the pa’ssing game is awful.

    It seems the reporters dont even come anymore. One reporter asked questions and Musgrave didnt even loose eye contact with him.

  76. By Shawn on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Im am still giggling on the idea of a defense “scheming” to take away Michael Jenkins or Jerome Simpson

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Seriously FIRE MUSGRAVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  77. By realviking on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    That’s what bothers me Musgrave is clueless but he’s still on the staff.

    Who’s the person in charge of evaluating the coaches why is Musgrave still around is he part of this so called plan

  78. By autobon7 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    My 10 year old son and me will be at the Rams game next weekend (from the area). I’m thinking about getting us Webb jerseys but everyone wants $80+ per jersey. Anyone know a cheaper and reliable place to get them?

  79. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    MBT MBT !!!

  80. By Shawn on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I wonder how many double teams Michael Jenkins gets?

  81. By liito on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Christian,
    Have you guys practiced with the crowd noise … ear-shattering booing? Management / coaches are ‘blinded by hope’ (borrowing Fran Tarkenton’s quote) that you might turn out to be the ‘guy’ in the next 4 games or quarter of a game. You will be rattled and panic. You need a mentor. I don’t know how many reels of tapes do the decision makers need to evaluate you, but frankly, you have regressed. Right now, the coaches are asking you to manage the game because the opponent willl focus on ALL Day.

  82. By liito on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    …. and still join the 2000 rushing yards club.

  83. By Bench Ponder on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Minneapolis police report:

    Minneapolis police confirmed an egging at Mr. Frazier’s house late last night and reported 2 eggs hit Mr. Fraizier’s house. Three flew over the house and hit his neighbors back door. Two eggs each hit each of his other neighbor’s houses. The remaining three eggs were broken at the ground where thesuspect threw them.

    Police suspect Vikings Quarterback Christian Ponder.

    When asked about the egging Ponder broke down on the ground and started crying.

    Just found this on facebook lol

  84. By TC612 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Most of these stats are just meaningless to me.
    Anything can happen on sunday. Who cares how a teams defense averages on second down.
    Come to play, throw the ball…accurately please…
    Actually please don’t have a decent or good game Ponder. I want Webb out there
    I’ve seen enough.

  85. By TC612 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    It’s do or die for Ponder this sunday.
    It should be interesting.

  86. By vikingbob136 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Got my Culpepper jersey on today.Keeping me nice and warm.
    Almost put on my Kramer jersey but its still drying out.

  87. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Culpepper was not that good. Kramer had off the field issues and was inconsistent. Outside of Tarkenton, Moon, Cunningham, and Jeff George, there were no good quarterbacks. Oh, Sean was very good– but used too sparingly.

  88. By die hard 67 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder can play , he has arm strength, his biggest problem right now is from the neck up which is affecting him from the neck down, The coaches have been so conservative and tight to the vest all seson that Ponder thinks way to much and is second guessing himself which is affecting his play greatly.

  89. By vikingbob136 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I agree on Culpepper.But when he came to us, i thought he was going to be our QB for 10 or more years.That’s why i have his jersey in my collection.
    I do not own a Ponder jersey but have 3 AP jerseys.

  90. By TC612 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    The problem with Ponders is that,
    1. He has no pocket presence or confidence.
    2. Can’t go through and anticipate his reads.
    3. Can’t throw accurately.
    4. He sucks.
    5. Weak arm, not strong.

  91. By Bluebird7 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    This is off the Press..Chad Greenway said he was only joking when he was quoted as saying:

    ” I want all the Viking fans to get drunk during the Chicago game Sunday”.

    I like Chad, and his type of smash mouth football, but I suggest he and the others,
    play the game and not expect the fans to do it for him. He gets paid. We don’t.

  92. By die hard 67 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I agree with point #1 and thats it………….

  93. By Bluebird7 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    All this hashing , re-hashing of Ponder is making me a bit sleepy.zzzzzzzzzzz

    Wake me up before the game starts..Thank You!

  94. By TC612 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I think I’m addicted to trash talking Ponder..I just can’t stop..lol.
    The first step is admitting it.

  95. By MuskyFever on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    @ Shawn.

    I have not watched the Musgrave presser, but I am not shocked that he said all of those things. Clearly he is an idiot. I thought he would at least have more knowledge of football. and especially the team he works for, but I suppose that was giving him too much credit.

    What a D U M B A S S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Dear Mr. Musgrave.

    You are terrible at your job. At least know who you are coaching and what is going on, on the field so at least you don’t embarrass yourself. (which you did) it is hard for us as fans to understand why they are keeping someone on the job who is clearly incompitent. If you have any self respect, I think now is your time to retire. and stop while you think your ahead (clearly not the case). At least then you can brag about being the OC for the falcons during the regular season, since we know how talented you are in the offseason. Mr. Musgrave, Please get off our field. Your football IQ is lacking in serious fashion.

    Sincerley
    Vikings Fans

  96. By odark30 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    off-topic
    Any insight on who might fill the 53 spot?

  97. By Bluebird7 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Just got woke up by the Mail Lady ringing my door bell. She had my pair of snow
    boots I ordered. Just in time, its starting to snow here in Western Minnesota.

    Maybe 2-3 inches they say. Vikings used to play in the snow. Wonder what happened.

    Ponder wouldn’t make it in the snow, I’m thinking he would most likely throw into a snowbank on the sidelines, or hit Mustgraves in the beak…That would be OK !

  98. By odark30 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    @ Bluebird7
    Waiting for snow here in SE MN as well. Ready to get the snowmobiles out.

  99. By MuskyFever on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    @BB7 –

    I would stop talking about benching Ponder if every pass he threw hit Musgrave in the face… At least then I could be entertained by Ponder throws, instead of in shock and disaray

  100. By MuskyFever on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I just want the darn lakes to freeze so I can get back to doing what I do best… FISHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  101. By odark30 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    @MuskyFever
    Did you lose your icehouse last year?

  102. By Parkway on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    First Round: Hunter/Allen (WR)
    Second Round: Jones/Bray/Glennon (QB)
    Third Round: Minter (ILB)
    Fourth Round: Best OG/DT

    ..

  103. By MuskyFever on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    @ odark30…

    LOL..No but my buddy did. It is somewhere at the Bottom of Lake Minnetonka. I am actually pretty sure we found it on his graph this year while musky fishing

  104. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I just cycled on my skinny tire road bike — December 7th in Minneapolis– 11 miles, but my feet are cold!! And it is snowing now. May be the last day riding — will be riding in the living room now. Have to love global warming!

  105. By Parkway on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Titus, I was just out golfing 12/7

  106. By Bluebird7 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Muskyfever

    Why not take your fishing buddy out next season and find that icehouse.

    I bet the Muskys are using it for a play ground, just waiting for you guys!

  107. By Bluebird7 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Muskys with those big rows of teeth can be pretty sneaky,almost like Ponder…..

  108. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway, yeah– but where do you live?

  109. By Bluebird7 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway

    How can you find the Fairway in a snow storm?

    Where can you see to make a hole-in-one?

  110. By Parkway on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    About 4 hours north of you

  111. By Parkway on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    It wasn’t snowing yet, but the frost on the ground didn’t help anything

  112. By MuskyFever on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    @ BB7.. Yeah, but I bet they can throw better than Ponder… AND THEY DON”T EVEN HAVE ARMS!!!!!!!!!!!

    His house was really large. It was not a small one. Even if we forsure did fine it, it would be really expensive to get a water craine to come out and lift it out. It is cheaper to build a new one. So thats what we did. He had a 10 person. But now he just has a 6 person that we built this summer. But it is pretty funny to see it Or what I think was it on his side view imaging graph this summer. I told him to buy the new 360 imaging next year and we can find it for sure

  113. By Bluebird7 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Or do you just dig a hole in the snowbank, jump up and down with glee?

  114. By MuskyFever on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Obviously we know the spot it was in, but he had it sitting on one of our lucky spots. It was on a rock ledge that was in 17 FOW and then had a straight drop off to 65 Ft of water. So I am not sure where that house is. Shallow….??? Deep…??? Maybe with 360 imaging we will find out

  115. By Spencer on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

  116. By Bluebird7 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway (who else golfs in a bizzard)

    Do you use a 9 iron or a broken off willow tree branch?

  117. By novascotiavike on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Musgrave is an idiot, plain and simple.

  118. By Parkway on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Ha I just said it wasn’t snowing yet, though we do have arctic golfing up here as well when there is snow.

  119. By MuskyFever on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I love golf, It keeps all the unworthy off the water….

    Sorry Parkway, its just a saying that us musky fisherman have. That because Most Musky guys STINK at golf, IN fact I would be willing to bet that Ponder can throw the Football better than musky fisherman can golf…. And thats saying somehting…

  120. By MuskyFever on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Don’t mean any hard feelings by it… just thought it was funny once you started talking about golf… Which I am terrible at

  121. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    the nfl channel has that top 10 countdown of biggest qb busts. they are going to have to redo it, because Ponder fits in very well at #4

  122. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Ryan Leaf is #1, actually Ponder isn’t much better than Leaf was, it’s just that he was the #2 overall pick behind P. Manning

  123. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    FROM NFL.COM
    1. Minnesota Vikings: We already stuck a fork in them. Any hope for this surprise team, once 5-2, will be gone if they can’t beat the Chicago Bears at home.

  124. By Parkway on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Who’s ready for the draft?

  125. By Bluebird7 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Who you are as a coach, is determined by what you have done.

    Not what you will do, or try to do in the future. Frazier? Where do you fit in?

  126. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Fraziers only line is “Ponder is our starter now and will be in the future”

  127. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    can’t blame Harvin for being mad. you know his biggest concern is qb play

  128. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    everyone worked so hard in the offseason and it all gets taken away from very poor qb play

  129. By Ozzinator on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Bring on the hyphen!

  130. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    football is so fun when you still have a playoff shot on the Christmas games. Ponder took that away from all of us

  131. By Spencer on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    …Webb has proven he can give this team a spark.

  132. By Ozzinator on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    No he hasn’t Spence, WTF?

  133. By Spencer on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Did you not watch the Lions and Redskins game last year?

  134. By Shawn on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I did Spencer …. and you know what to expect from Webb, right?

  135. By Spencer on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    A win.

  136. By Parkway on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    OH SNAP

  137. By Shawn on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Exactly :)

  138. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    even chilly knew T-JACK wasn’t the answer, so he played Gus Frerotte in 2008. he led the team to the playoffs and probably would of beat the eagles in the wildcard game if he wouldn’t of got hurt. Gus was just average but fearless, he would hang in the pocket until the last second and took alot of big hits

  139. By Parkway on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Let’s draft Denard Robinson then we can run the most confusing offense ever. Webb, harvin, Peterson in the backfield in shotgun formation, sometimes Denard goes back there too. Otherwise, Denard spread out wide and comes in motion every play, if Webb or Denard keeps it, they also have the option to chuck it down field to one of our WR (that will be upgraded). First quadruple option ever.

    But we would need Chip Kelly for this I think.

  140. By Bluebird7 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    How do you say it, Oh yes! Let us wait and see what happens on Sunday!!!

  141. By Bluebird7 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway

    I like that idea of Robinson and Webb.

  142. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Michigan qb’s always do well in the nfl. Denard Robinson will probably go in the 2nd round also

  143. By Richard1A on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Ponders engaged, his mind is on something else, I wonder what that is! Get A.P. 2,000 the vikes knew goal!!!!

  144. By Beach Viking on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder this Ponder that. No QB can play under Musgrave. He brings out the worst in his players. Can you imagine having to listen to him daily. the guy is weird and cant coach. sorry but i can not believe this guy was an athelete

  145. By Kevin on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    We need a General @ QB. It seems we haven’t found that just yet. It is another year shot in the a$$!

  146. By animal26 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    commitment to the run key to breaking bears on 3rd down? Oh Mike W, you are funny. Is this what the Vikings should do? heck yeah, however they wont do that. The Vikings will blow this game just like many others this year, by trying to give Ponder a confidence boast, by putting the game into his hands, instead of doing what is best for the team to win the game.

    As of Right now, I kinda hope they do put the ball in Ponders hands, so that we will keep losing; in order to get a decent draft spot.

  147. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    the pride and joy of the Michigan wolfpack-Tom Brady

  148. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    yeah, let Ponder start the 4 games and let him determine his own fate, which will be watching football on tv

  149. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Norv Turner will BE FIRED
    On Thursday, Kevin Acee of U-T San Diego reported that San Diego Chargers head coach Norv Turner and general manager A.J. Smith will be fired at the end of the season

  150. By Shawn on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    That would be awesome if Frazier could land Norv Turner. Does Frazier have any connections with Norv?

  151. By elvis on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Novascotiavike is a dork. Everyone just chill n watch Cutler get destroyed.

  152. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    yes he does, Assistant coaches under Norv Turner who have become NFL head coaches: Cam Cameron, Miami Dolphins (2007) … Leslie Frazier (Minnesota 2010)

  153. By Parkway on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Didn’t the owner say that that wasn’t actually true about Norv? Or was that about Reid? I don’t remember. I’d take either one over Frazier though.

  154. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    the story just broke on nfl.com

  155. By Frederick Jones on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    The Twins traded their two best Centerfielders (Span and Revere) for some unknown pitchers who have yet to accomplish something important in the major leagues.

    TheJonesBoy doesn’t know baseball but this seems like a HUGE mistake!

  156. By Parkway on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000106869/article/norv-turner-aj-smith-reportedly-on-outs-in-san-diego

  157. By Parkway on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Do you have an updated link?

    Spanos later released a statement denying the report: “There is only one person in this organization who will make those decisions and that’s me, and I haven’t shared my thoughts with anyone. I will make my evaluations at the end of the season. Anything coming out now — from sources or otherwise — is pure speculation.”

  158. By Frederick Jones on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    @elvis,

    novascotiavike is in TheJonesBoy’s top ten among Vikings.com bloggers!!!

  159. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    no i don’t, but it looks like a done deal pretty much

  160. By Shawn on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I almost agree with Fred Jones … Nova is top 5 bloggers

  161. By elvis on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry F. J. , I probably just got a little ill remembering night ranger. As pertaining to Cutler: OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  162. By Frederick Jones on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    @ponder aka 3 and out,

    Wouldn’t you say the Vikings main problem this year is who they put in the ball game, and when.

    Everson Griffen
    Geoff Schwartz
    Toby Gerhart
    Joe Webb
    Jarius Wright (yes, NOW he is playing!)

    I mean we don’t even have our best players in the game on third down.

    If that is all it takes to be a poor coach in the NFL, then yes, we have poor coaching. Get rid of the lot!!! Sorry, JonesOfFred has changed his mind.

    Mainly because The Vikings Coaching Staff have blown mine!!!

  163. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Contract statuses of head coach and general managers are usually kept under wraps, but Acee reports that Smith has two seasons and $4 million remaining on his current deal, while Turner is owed $3 million for the one year that remains on his current contract.

    Acee goes on to report that Smith’s replacement appears to already be in the building.

    When Smith is fired, director of player personnel Jimmy Raye could ascend to the general manager’s position, with current director of college scouting John Spanos, whose father owns the team, becoming his right-hand man. Raye has been with the Chargers since the 1996 season as a scout and director of college scouting, and has been in his current position overseeing the college and pro scouting departments since 2007.

    Potential head-coaching candidates for the opening may include Oregon head coach Chip Kelly or Arizona Cardinals defensive coordinator Ray Horton, whose defensive system would be a good fit for much of the current defensive personnel assembled by Raye. Ian Rapoport of NFL.com and the NFL Network reports that current Philadelphia Eagles head coach Andy Reid could target that position once his expected firing takes place at the end of the regular season.

  164. By Shawn on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    OC Norv Turner had Emmitt … think he might want to OC AP ?

  165. By Frederick Jones on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    @Shawn,

    You are also a member of the Top Five Bloggers on Vikings.com.

    What do you think of the coaching other than the CrAzY personnel use, and the third down decisions?

  166. By Frederick Jones on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Can anyone help me replace a brain cell?

    Wouldn’t you say the Vikings main problem this year is who they put in the ball game, and when.

  167. By Parkway on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I’d have to assume at a MINIMUM OC would be replaced this year and if Norv would actually accept an OC position that would be nice. Frazier does not know a thing about offense.

  168. By Frederick Jones on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

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  169. By Shawn on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    @Fred … thanks Bud. You are one of my favorites as well.

    As far as our coaching. I think when Ponder isnt playing well he should be benched, that is my only issue with Frazier.

    But

    I want Bill Musgrave F-I-R-E-D !!!!!!

  170. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    fred, a better coach will not cure Ponders problems, if they bring in a new coach, Ponder is a gonner

  171. By elvis on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Hey, B. Marsh is 1/2 off J. Cut’s yds. Can we shut him down please?

  172. By Parkway on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    @Fred: Especially on offense. I said before that the SECOND Musgrave answered the question “Why isn’t Percy in redzone plays?” and he responded with “We’ll have to look into it” he should have been FIRED.

  173. By elvis on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    AND not with A.J. please!

  174. By TC612 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Andy Reid for offensive coordinator and Frazier back to D.Coordinator. Then get Jon Gruden for head coach.

  175. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Norv for OC-Vikings!

  176. By Shawn on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I just checked and there is no connection between Norv and Leslie

  177. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    another good idea! but will Gruden come to MN?

  178. By Shawn on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I dont like Andy Reid … he doesnt know what a running game is and that leaves our best player out of the game

  179. By g murphy aka 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    i played qb in the big ten

  180. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    at least Reid would find a qb that could throw

  181. By elvis on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Anybody see coaching carousel couple nights ago on NFLN? Cutler’s hilarious, he don’t care bout nothin anyone says. But Allen n B. Rob. will definately make his eyes even puffier.

  182. By elvis on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Meant QB

  183. By 1vikingsfan on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Wow my girlfriend left me because I would pay to much attention to sports after being with her for 4 years:\

  184. By Bluebird7 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Better come up with a new blog, Mike W. This one is getting long in tooth!

    (That is the term the American Indians use for someone getting old.)

  185. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Minnesota Vikings – Losing two games in a row to divisional opponents makes the road to the playoffs an uphill battle from here on. To make matters worse, you have to square off against the Chicago Bears, who handled you two weeks ago. Adrian Peterson appears unstoppable on the football field this season, but you’ll need to get creative in your approach to getting Christian Ponder off the field for good. Peterson won’t be able to carry the team to the playoffs alone.

  186. By VA Vike Fan on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Adrian ran for 210 yards last week..we still couldnt convert on 3rd down and still lost..What more can be asked of the run game?? stop babying Ponder and hold ppl accountable for their jobs! sheesh

  187. By VA Vike Fan on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Vick until we find a long term solution!

  188. By Shawn on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I like Vick more than Alex Smith … and I hate part time players

  189. By TC612 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Then somehow convince Brett Favre to be our quarterback coach.

  190. By TC612 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    That would be a super bowl coaching staff.

  191. By Shawn on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Nevermind … After comparing stat pages … I would take Alex Smith over Michael Vick. Alex is only 28 and is peaking. Michael is 32 and wont play 16 games.

  192. By Shawn on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    My offseason wishlist …

    OC- Norv Turner

    QB- Alex Smith

    WR- Either Mike Wallace and / or D’Wayne Bowe

    1st round – ILB Monte T’eo

    Thats what I want … Git-R-Done

  193. By Nicholas on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Thumbs up, Shawn!

  194. By TC612 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Alex Smith would obviously be an upgrade and 28 isn’t that old but I don’t know.
    Maybe we could groom MBT for a year or two behind Smith. With a good QB this team would have been playoff bound. Definitely need a linebacker. Brinkley is actually pretty decent but not good enough.

  195. By Nicholas on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Who would we trade for Smith is the question. Or What picks would we trade.

  196. By TC612 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe they would take like, Joe Webb and a 4th round pick…

  197. By Shawn on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    hmm i wouldnt trade for Alex Smith … If San Fran doesnt cut him move to plan B which I havent come up with yet.

    I said Alex Smith because of everyone elses speculation he would be available.

    Kapernick might not make it and Smith didnt break the bank in San Fran so he might not get cut

  198. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I think we have our quarterback already– just need to develop him.

  199. By Nicholas on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I really don’t know what kind of value Alex Smith holds. If we were to retain Harvin and draft someone to complement him @ WR, then I could see us in the playoffs with Alex Smith under center.

    Ponder would learn well that way, too.

  200. By Nicholas on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    MBT would learn well, too. : )

  201. By TC612 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t think their gonna cut him. They did sign him to a three year deal this year. But yeah, they may wanna see how Kaepernicks gonna work out.
    Smith might start to get pretty unhappy though standing on the sideline.

  202. By Nicholas on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    This next game will make or break the rest of the season for Ponder. I’m very interested and anxious to see the outcome of Sunday’s game.

  203. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    MBT PLEASE– I think Spielman knows this kid is our future and kept him as insurance if Ponder flopped,

  204. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    If Ponder does poorly, I will hear the boos from my home.

  205. By TC612 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I like MBT too. Ponder probably won’t play so bad that they bench him. It would take like 3 interceptions and under 100 yards into the third quarter with the game out of reach for them to bench him.

  206. By novascotiavike on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Thanks, Shawn and Fred. I always thought Elvis was completely dead, not just from the neck up.

  207. By John61 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

  208. By Parkway on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply
    MBT PLEASE– I think Spielman knows this kid is our future and kept him as insurance if Ponder flopped,

    I hope so, otherwise it made 0 sense for them to keep 3 rookie QBs on the squad instead of having Sage to teach Ponder on the sidelines if they were 100% POSITIVE Ponder was without a doubt absolutely our franchise QB.

  209. By Parkway on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    By Shawn on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply
    My offseason wishlist …
    OC- Norv Turner-Genius
    QB- Alex Smith- A more Polished Ponder and we would have to trade for him and pay a big salary, so pass
    WR- Either Mike Wallace and / or D’Wayne Bowe- Good
    1st round – ILB Monte T’eo – If above works, then good otherwise WR
    I’m guessing Te’o and H. Smith played together at least a year or two? Might be good. He’ll be top 5 though, if we are a late teen pick we’ll have to give up too much to get him.

  210. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    A foot of snow is coming?

  211. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway, you live out in the boondocks?

  212. By novascotiavike on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Titus, Sonja says ” Merry Christmas “.

  213. By vikingbob136 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Be careful what you wish for.

  214. By Spencer on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    If Ponders throwing hand hits a Bears helmet causing him to come out of the game fans will cheer.

  215. By Parkway on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Just a hut

  216. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    That’s a good Sonja. Give her a prime rib, on me.

  217. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    it will probably be better if Ponder plays all 4 games, there will be no excuses left to keep him around next year that way

  218. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    No I disagree- we need to see what MBT can do– let him play 4 games– we might be very pleasantly surprised. Four full games may tell us a lot– and these are tough games. Heck, with MBT at QB, we could be 10-6.

  219. By peterk on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Forest Gump would be an Upgrade at Offensive Coordinator . I don’t think we

    could go wrong with John Gruden @ Head Coach. I WOULD ALSO BET THAT WE

    COULD TAKE ANY OF THE TOP 5 BLOGGERS ON HERE, AND THEY COULD

    MANAGE THE OFFENSE BETTER THAN MUSGRAVE.

  220. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    well, i guess if MBT went in and won all 4 games, that would mean bye bye to Ponder also

  221. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Hey, now that is an idea– Forrest Gump for OC.

  222. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    only Problem is they will start Ponder, and he will put us in the hole before MBT gets a shot

  223. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    If Ponder is booed– I think he will fall apart.

  224. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    maybe, but they still need to start MBT to give him a fair shot at winning the game

  225. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Did they do that with Ponder? When McSlabb had the game well under ruin, they threw Ponder in against the Chicago D in Soldier field for his debut. That was rough— and it only took Frazier, what 6 or 8 games to bench McNabb?

  226. By 32frank12 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Do you think we will sign Chris Summers to the 53 man roster before Sunday and give him a shot/

  227. By Bluebird7 on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Repeat—–Repeat—–Ponder is good—-Ponder is bad—- Forrest Gump &Musgraves are twin brothers—–Ponder good—Ponder—Bad—on & on..

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

  228. By peterk on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    Forest Musgrave Listen Well : When the Bears linebackers play tight up towards

    the Defensive Line on 1st and 2nd down throw the 5 yard shovel pass to AP

    behind the linebackers and watch AP knock off 30 yards. Think Forest Think.

  229. By T.allengovikes on Dec 7, 2012 | Reply

    I thought we were going to actually go out and get a good receiver, then I realized its 2012 and I’m a Viking fan.

  230. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder may do very well on Sunday– if not, I expect Frazier to pull him second quarter– enough is enough. Zygi and Mark said, time to change the tires!

  231. By Parkway on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    At least the twolves won tonight

  232. By Kathy P on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    I certainly hope that the “Boo Birds” will be out in full force on Sunday in the Dome. The fans need to come together and show how they feel about this guy, and yes, maybe Frazier/Musgrave as well. Until they actually hear all the dissatisfaction from the fans and maybe,just maybe, it will jolt them back to reality. All fans unite and get your voices heard at the Dome. Just wish I could be there to support/ stand with all of you.

  233. By Bluebird7 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Kathy P

    Yes, indeed the “Boo Birds” will be out. If you look close.

    You might just see a couple sitting on a bench right next to mc-Ponder.

  234. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    I guess some have been wondering “who” our fearless leader Frazier would bring up and place on the 53 man…And replace Harvins spot ???…

    Well I guess he “considered” doing the smart move…Before doing the dumb move…Hear is part of Tim Yotters report…

    Tim Yotter..”With Percy Harvin on injured reserve, the Vikings were considering a move at the receiver position Friday, according to head coach Leslie Frazier, but opted to sign tackle Troy Kropog off the practice squad instead”…

    Way to go Les !!!…We DESPERATELY need a WR…And you bring up a T from the practice squad ???…

    Later in the article Yotter talks in great length about C Summers ( I believe was Yotters personal choice to bring up from the practice squad, as many other fans expected)…But leave it to Frazier to let us down again…Even saying the Vikings are pleased at WR…huh ???

    Do not get confused about the write up about Summers…Because he was not the choice for the 53 man roster…Troy Kropog was promoted….

    Here is the entire article….

    http://min.scout.com/2/1247422.html

  235. By Ozzinator on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    WOW

  236. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    I am really beginning to believe…Frazier has some kind of “false security”
    that his job as head coach is not in jeopardy after this season ???…

    If I am Spieman…There is NO WAY I am sticking with this horse & pony show that Frazier & Musgrave have been putting on this season !!…

    A GM gets maybe 2 shots at getting things right at selecting a QB for the franchise…And maybe only as little as one shot ay choosing his own head coach to handle those QB choices…

    Frazier & Musgrave are NOT the right choices for this team or Ponder…Or whoever Spielman might look at in the draft at QB…

    Frazier has not even released “one” of these numerous terrible WR’s on this team for their poor play…

    And then when the only good WR we have goes on IR he replaces that WR with a tackle ?????????…

    I think Spielman is ready to make a move this off season…But at head coach more so than at QB…imo…

  237. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    This Viking teams structure is just screaming for the need of a NEW head coach !!!…

    The ony way a rebuilding team really gels as one team taking on the personality of its new head coach…

    Is through the draft !!!…

    Spielman has a GREAT group of young players he found in this last springs draft…And will get plenty more this coming spring with 9 picks in hand for the 2013 draft…With the 2 extra picks being in the 4th and 6th rounds…

    Do not look for ANY veteran free agent pick ups this next season …Unless there is a certain area on the team that is hurting big time with injury…

    Spielman knows its youth and growing together, is what makes a team super bowl champions,,,

    Not clinging onto underacheiving veterans or wanting players on other teams that are over 30 years old…Or declining in skill sets like Childress and Frazier seem to want on this team…

    I see a head coach on the Vikings next season that loves new young players to develop !!!…

    Not a head coach like Frazier worring about not having enough veterans on this team to help him teach new players…

    That is your job Les !!!

    I look for change this off season at head coach…Spielman is a SMART guy !!!…

    And I only see youth coming into this team yet this spring through the draft…And few “young” free agents…If any…

  238. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Another reason for a new head coach…(which I think is a minor reason..Some might think otherwise)…

    Harvin most likely would be much easier to sign a contract extension…If Frazier was replaced with a head coach to match his own fire and passion for the game…Maybe a Gruden type head coach…Or a offensive coordinator like Jason Garrett (who I believe will be fired at Dallas)…

    If Gruden and Garrett came to Minnesota…Harvin might even pay Spielman, for the chance to play under those 2 coaches ???…. ; )

    Might do WONDERS for the Vikings fan base also…Who has been bored silly all season long with Frazier & Musgraves, conservative “Pop Warner football”….

    Gruden could control Harvin…Where Childress and now Frazier…Can not !!

  239. By Bluebird7 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    One thing all of you want to keep in mind. Minnesota Gov. Dayton.

    Do you think that he is just setting there while all this uproar is going on?

    He most likely has someone on his staff watching, listioning, reading.

    The Gov is not stupid. If he thinks the people are angry about the status of the Vikings, He could sti;ll throw a monkey wrench into the stadium issue.

  240. By 1vikingsfan on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    OTkalil Garrett for Dallas is a defensive couch as I remember he would be a defensive coordinator. You know who I want in the draft manti te’o. He play with Harrison in notre dame and they had communication and would just make the defense better. I want Frazier fired. I would like to see bellick or gruden but gruden always says dumb stuff towards Vikings. I would want to see norv turner as our OC and still stay with Williams at defensive coordinator I like what he has done. But me as i think their won’t be many changes next year:\ only the OC gone and drafts and their. I would like to see Frazier go. To be honest he doesnt have it to be a head coach.

  241. By 1vikingsfan on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Or why not bringing the coach from Oregon?!!!

  242. By Futility 4 Ever on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    You Vikings fans sure like to kick a dead dog. 300 posts? Really?!

  243. By 1vikingsfan on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=LvvTUF6E6a8 get pretty excited of see what he can do

  244. By VikingFanatic209 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Phillip Rivers in Purple?

  245. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    if Norv comes over, could very well be

  246. By northwoodsv2 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    300 posts because Viking fans actually have brains and can carry on a discussion with each other.

    Go pack fudge, fudgePacker.

  247. By jcdogg on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Philip Rivers…the pick master….are you out of your mind? You all are delusional. I wonder if any of you truly know the game of football….truly know…not I am High School Coach and I run a wing T, so now I think I am an authority on football. BOO BIRDS, YOU BETTER NOT SHOW UP…SUPPORT YOUR TEAM AND THEY WILL BE SUCCESSFUL…5-1 AT HOME……5-1, WITH PONDER UNDER CENTER. So support your team…or stay home and boo the TV.

  248. By TC612 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe Brett Favre could be our offensive coordinator. There must be some way we could convince him….I’m kidding. But that would be cool

  249. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Boo-birds? Cute.

  250. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    But it won’t be cute when 60,000 of those birds start singing– I don’t think Ponder has the composure to handle that– he will utterly self-destruct. And, seriously, it is not his fault — the coaches should not have him in games the way he is playing. It is like blaming a ten year old for a driving accident– you need to find the parents who let the child drive.

  251. By Vikings fans are Trash on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    That’s all you’ve got? What a feeble response. But hey, don’t let some “fudge-Packer lol” interrupt your redundant conversations about how you know more about managing a professional football team than Frazier and how Ponder is inadequate. Maybe you could find a way to cover these topics from 50 different angles or maybe just watch the games and sulk without posting your disdain repetitively. Either way the ignorance is lost on you for the fact that you label a “fudge-packer” fanbase as dolts. That’s quite a generalization don’t you think?

  252. By TC612 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Ponders gonna have to do really bad to get benched and the game will be out of reach. Even if they do their gonna put in Webb, I wanna see MBT

  253. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Booing Ponder is just plain rude– if anyone boos him and says they are liberal– they contradict their supposed values. If anyone boos him and says they are conservative, they contradict their supposed values. I agree with jcdogg– support the team or stay home and boo the TV.

  254. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Wow– Packer Fan is really quite amusing. Spending his or her time on another fan base site espousing the fans overkill on the analysis. So, what are you doing here? Huh? You better wake up to reality.

  255. By TC612 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    I’m tired of supporting terrible play at the QB position. Part of me wants Ponder to turn it around just because there is a sliver of hope for the playoffs. But once it’s a done deal like if we lose this game, I’ve seen enough. We have a enough of a body of work for Ponder and it’s not very good. This game is a good final test for him because it’s an absolute must win. As long as he plays well and HELPS to win keep him in to finish the season. If not I’d like to see what MBT has.

  256. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    The loss at Seattle is proving very costly– we need to evaluate MBT. The smart move is to play him– that is what I would do as coach. I would have MBT taking all the snaps in practice and see what we got– it sends a message to the whole team that no one player is above the team– and that every one must perform.

  257. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Better now– then we know if we need to acquire another QB.

  258. By Bluebird7 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    The smart move is to play Joe Webb!!! He IS READY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  259. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Webb first half and MBT the second– play like it’s preseason– let everyone have fun- I bet we do better.

  260. By max on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    hay we would!!! if we had at least an ok QB at least there would be playoff contension.

  261. By jcdogg on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    I wouldn’t throw another QB into a situation like this. No receivers, just hand it off to AP and hope he can break it. Let the current QB show his moxie and hopefully this year has just been a bad year and he will turn it around these weeks and give us fans something to be encouraged about next year. This team without Harvin is hard pressed to make it to the playoffs let alone win a game. For those of you who thought that this was the season we were going to go the playoffs are utterly crazy. This was an evaluation year and maybe a playoff run but not likely…

  262. By Parkway on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    The Vikings have enough talented receivers don’t give that excuse. MBT can go in and light it up.

  263. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway and I agree for once.

  264. By Bluebird7 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Titus

    I like your idea of Webb and MBT taking over for the remaining games.

    I perfer those two to show us what they have. We already know Ponder has.

    NOTHING.

  265. By jcdogg on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    so they worked well for McNabb, Farve in 2010, Ponder and Webb last year. They are at best average….and that is highly debatable. MBT, what happens if he comes in….then a rookie…and what if that doesn’t work….when do you just put stock in someone and let them develop and deal with the lows in hope that they grow. We are not entering new territory. You all have learn patience. Holy moly.

  266. By Spencer on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    MBT is on the Practice Squad for a reason…hes horrible.

  267. By Parkway on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    MBT for MVP

  268. By Bluebird7 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Allow me to tell you what is going to happen to Ponder if Frazier is going to keep him on.

    At the Rams on 16 Dec, he will meet Chris Long, HOF- Howie Longs son.

    At the Texans on 23 Dec, he meets J.J. Watt, 11 & half QB sacks, 40 QB
    presssures. Where do you want the flowers sent, Frazier?

  269. By Bluebird7 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    You put unproven MBT in, and he can lay down beside Ponder and smell the flowers.

    Joe, on the other hand would face the same guys, but he is more fleet of foot.

  270. By Parkway on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    MBT will win no fewer than 4 superbowls

  271. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    We need Harvin. He wants to win. He will do anything he can to win. Frazier wont.
    He wont sit the Pond.

    PAY PERCY
    FIRE FRAZIER

  272. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, you are lost, young man. MBT has “it.” You cannot teach some things– that kid would not panic and flinch like Ponder or scamper around like Webb. He can also throw about 80 yards into a tight window. He is tough and has swagger– and he will be an elite QB in this league. There is a reason he is on our roster– and not Sage– Spielman knows all too well this kid is a gem. I credit him for being smart and not cutting him –

  273. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Played against 2nd and 3rd string. Dont look too much into MBT. I do look forward to seeing him play next preseason.

  274. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Doesn’t matter if he played against my grandma (and she’s passed)– you can see what the kid has– MBT will be one of the very elite–

  275. By vikingfanforlife on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Dump Ponder, trade Joe for Matt Flynn. Keep the lawyer and develope his cannon arm. Scuttle Muskmouse or get a new head coach. How many times in the Packer game did A.P. run the ball in the 4th. quarter?

  276. By Parkway on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    MBT vs Ponder:

    5 yard p@sses: Both
    Pocket Presence: MBT
    Cannon Arm: MBT
    Ability to throw INTs: Both
    Makes terrible decisions: Ponder
    2 years of starting experience and has shown 0 improvement: Ponder

    Gotta give the advantage to MBT for finishing out the season. Can’t possibly get any worse than what Ponder has done.

  277. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    210 yards rushing with AP at Lambeau– halftime, ahead. How can you blow that game? How? Frazier should have thrown Webb in, at the least. This season is becoming frustrating– too many could haves, should haves again.

  278. By Spencer on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Titus, google MBT’s stats.

    Hes horrible.

  279. By norsejeremyw on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    I can’t help but to wonder if Dungy would come in and be head coach for us? And what’s up Packerboy?

  280. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer I saw MBT with my own eyes– I do not need to Google anything– I can argue anything and take any position — and prove it with the same stats.

  281. By liito on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    At this time, Ponder is like a puppy. Peterson is the beast. Ponder and Peterson are like “The Puppy and the Beast.”

  282. By vikgnr on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    if ponder gets hurt an gets booed by the home team. i will hate all of you. that is just sorry as bull manuer

  283. By Shawn on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    LOL MBT … ridiculous

  284. By not typical viking cry on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    i hate watching loses or blown oppurtunities but i cant stand fans they just start flingin thier arms about crying o me o my please fire the organization put in 3rd string qb. let ponder finish what he started this season then put in full evaluation. up or down. this team is goining to have to have this season an maybe next to finish to be solid playoff threat

  285. By not typical viking cry on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    i know al this mbt nonsense nobody was b i t c h ing when we were 4 and 1

  286. By titus knows everything on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah mbt

  287. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder would be 1-10 without AP right now. Ponder will be putting his Masters degree to work next year

  288. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    1-11 actually

  289. By titus knows everything on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    adrain is amazing my favorite viking actually but ponder did help us win more than 1 game guy

  290. By titus knows everything on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    my bad adrian

  291. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Ah, now we have a comedian? Try being a man and write under your own username.

  292. By oldtimer on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier makes no sense…..he has all types of good things to say about Summers but he uses the harvin roster spot on a OL. We have already lost Todman to the Jags and picked up who the Jags let go for Todman – STUPID. Summers will be next to go because of Fraziers absurd stubborness to give hungry guys a chance.

  293. By CaribooBill on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer – MBT is not on the practice squad – he is on the 53 man roster.
    Actually, if you look at last year’s stats versus this year’s stats for Ponder, there is some improvement in some areas: completion %, QB rating, sacks, and interception %, but others are lower: yards per pass, yards per run. I can’t remember the rest. My impression is that, overall, he is better but only slightly. I don’t think it is enough at this point, but I am willing to give him the rest of this season. Not that I have any say in the matter. He is taking off more – that, I believe, is because of poor OL line play and pressure from the defense. He is still learning to read defenses and to respond to what he sees by other than taking off. That’s gotta be a tough thing to learn. Rome wasn’t built in a day.

  294. By Immure on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder would be 1-10 without AP right now. Ponder will be putting his Masters degree to work next year
    _________________________________________________________________
    Actually it would be 2-9, San Fran and Tennessee, A.P. didn’t break 100 yards or score a td in either of those games.

  295. By Immure on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    2-10*

  296. By Spencer on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    CaribooBill- Ponder is horrible. He is no longer improving. I’ve stopped debating with people on that because there is nothing to argue.

    Right now hes garbage and all we can hope is that he turns it around.

  297. By CaribooBill on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    We can agree to disagree on the “garbage” part but agree on the “hope” part.

  298. By Ozzinator on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Titus, comin’ from this dude, all you say has made sense to me so far. Carry on brother!

  299. By Bluebird7 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    After the Bears game both Ponder and Frazier can be tossed into the Garbage Can, and the lid put on. Tightly.

  300. By Ozzinator on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    from Bluebird7:
    The Gov is not stupid. If he thinks the people are angry about the status of the Vikings, He could sti;ll throw a monkey wrench into the stadium issue.

    Dayton is not stupid? Wow, what are you smokin’ my man. Wake up!

  301. By Parkway on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    By Spencer on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply
    Titus, google MBT’s stats.
    Hes horrible.

    _____________________________________________________

    Ooooo now we can use Ponder apologist logic. Well look at Tom Brady’s first 2 years’ stats and Brett Favre oh what are they bad QBs?

  302. By Ozzinator on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, I don’t know why you don’t just sit there and finish your mashed peas….

  303. By Bluebird7 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Ozzinator

    First of all I don’t smoke anything.. I leave that self killing habit to you.

    Second how did Dayton get to be Gov if he is stupid?

  304. By Bluebird7 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Oz Baby.

    Are you saying all the people who voted Dayton into office are stupid?

  305. By Shawn on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway …. its called common sense.

    Do you suggest we compare Favre’s career to Ponder? Dumb

    of course common sense says you compare where one is and where the other was … at the same point.

    otherwise your argument is Johnny Manzel is an awful QB because look at Tom Brady … dumb

    no you have to look at 1st season vs 1st season … 2nd season vs 2nd season

    I guess I should accept what my mentor told me “Common sense isnt Common”

  306. By Ozzinator on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Are you f’n kidding me?
    Follow the money jackarse!
    I don’t smoke anything either a-hole, so stop assuming.

  307. By Shawn on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    according to Parkway logic RG3 should be cut … RG3 isnt even close to Favre

  308. By Ozzinator on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    and yes, all the people who voted for Dayton are indeed STUPID!

  309. By Ozzinator on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Bluebird = babybird

  310. By Bluebird7 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Oz, once again

    You are implying Minnesota Viking fans that wanted a stadium are stupid?

    answer yes or maybe misguided.

  311. By Ozzinator on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    correct

  312. By Bluebird7 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Ozzinator

    Have you stopped beating that fat sow you call a wife? Answer Yes or No…..

  313. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    HA HA HA HA– this is the funniest exchange in some time! Oz does have the best points, though.

  314. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, eat your mashed peas!

  315. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    The comment abut Dayton being smart because he was elected? HA HA HA! Great logic. Try some other rationale to prove his intelligence because a large number of sheep funneled through the voting booths proves nothing.

  316. By Bluebird7 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Oz

    Oh that’s right you aren’t married you just play with little boys.

    Police know about you and just waiting to put you away.

  317. By Parkway on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Yes Shawn so that means MBT could still be a HOF QB right?

  318. By Bluebird7 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Titus

    Reason you take up for Ozzinator is because he kisses your ass everytime you post.

  319. By Shawn on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway … what? how can you make that comparison? which Im as’suming you are comparing MBT with Favre … umm … because they wear #4 … ?

  320. By Parkway on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    No since they have poor stats at the beginning of their career.

  321. By Shawn on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Common sense isnt common.

    Brett Favre age 24 … 6500yards … 37TDs … in the NFL

    MBT age 24 ……………………………………………………………….

  322. By Parkway on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Oh now we are going by age not which year in the nfl they are…. you liberals really flip flop too much for me to keep up.

  323. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn, great comparison, only one problem. That is like comparing the performance and endurance of two automobiles.
    One is driven from LA to NY.
    The other sits in the garage.

  324. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway, they stand on shaky ground, so rather than admit error, they find another statistic to fortify their beliefs.

  325. By Parkway on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Aaron Rodgers age 24… 218 yards 1 TD, I guess that means he is a scrub by Shawn’s logic

  326. By Shawn on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Titus, great comparison, only one problem. That is like comparing the performance and endurance of two automobiles.
    One is driven from LA to NY.
    The other sits in the garage because it needs an engine.

  327. By Shawn on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    LOL … I dont have the energy tonight

  328. By Shawn on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    OK I did the work for you and found your comparison for MBT … Kurt Warner

    Warner a cast off until he was 28 … but Warner had another power working for him.

  329. By Shawn on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    2 Words ….

    #1 J-O-E #2 W-E-B-B

  330. By Shawn on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer … I think you would appreciate this pic

    http://www.1500espn.com/features/posterID52

  331. By Ozzinator on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Blueba lls7, I don’t kiss up to Titus, he’s just right on more often than not. Now go finish your mashed peas…..

  332. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Anyone see this about the Cowboy’s player who died– and his teammate was driving under the influence, charged with homicide?

    http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/sports-general/20121208/Cowboys-Player.Killed/?cid=hero_media

  333. By Bluebird7 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Can’t wait for the game to play Sunday, when Mc-Ponder is hauled off the field for giving points to Chicago, and is replaced by Joe Webb.

    Shawn: One poster missing. The one of Ponder with the ball stuffed in his ear.

  334. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    MBT!!!

  335. By Spencer on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Enough! All of this fighting is driving us apart. At the end of the day we all root for the same team. So lets talk about something we all love and appreciate:

    Chris Cook.

  336. By Spencer on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Did anyone watch the Army/Navy game? The QB from Army was literally crying after the loss, heart wrenching stuff.

  337. By Immure on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Titus- I read an article about it earlier. Its very unfortunate. There has been alot of tragic events revolving around football this year. With fans and players deaths its all very sad.

  338. By Parkway on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Allen/Hunter (WR)
    Bray/Glennon/Jones (QB)

  339. By Immure on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Winfeild > Cook

  340. By Bluebird7 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Titus

    I believe you could be wrong on Brent’s charge. It is a Manslaughter charge Not homicide. Unless of couse homicide has more then one defination. Just saying.

  341. By norsejeremyw on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    @ Shawn I’m kind of partial to the first poster, but they all slay me. Spencer, I was waiting and wondering when you’d be bringing up Chris Cook.

  342. By norsejeremyw on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Kind of an unfortunate and sad year for these NFL players and their families and friends. My heart and prayers go out to them.

  343. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Bluebird– I was tired of typing– it might be called vehicular homicide?

  344. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    What is really sad is I read yesterday that Kim Kardashian’s kitten died.

  345. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Josh Brent was charged with intoxication manslaughter

  346. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    I think this story is more tragic– of a soldier killed at home– sounds like a love spat– stabbed 74 times? Aunt says, no, there was no relationship. Doesn’t sound that way.

    http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20121208/US.Death.in.the.Barracks/

  347. By novascotiavike on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Consider, in the long run, what this is going to cost him financially, never mind emotionally.

    It would have been cheaper for him to buy half of the cab companies in Dallas.

  348. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    consider the vikings keeping ponder long term, we would need a number one ranked defense in both rushing and passing to have a shot at winning any games

  349. By liito on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    1. Who will deliver the fiery speech in the locker room before the game? (Recall Winfield spoke to the team in the early part of the season)
    2. If the Vikes lose (or win) tomorrow against the Bears, will we have a follow-up interview with the quarterbacks’ coach? How come there are no interviews with the wide receivers’ coach?
    3. If Vikes win, are they contemplating on other roster adjustments?

  350. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    do you really think we have a shot at us winning with Ponder starting? the bears are licking their chops right now

  351. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Ponders 32 ranked pass offense is going to pick the Chicago bears defense apart! LOL

  352. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder may have a surprising game– 78% completion. He will be so afraid of the boos– see in Chicago and Green Bay, the stadium erupted in cheers for his play.

  353. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_22154102/charley-walters-my-games-taken-off-vikings-qb

  354. By Nicholas on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder will surprise us all in this game in fear of being benched. He will then regress after this game just enough to miss the playoffs.

  355. By Richard1A on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    The guys on his own, he’s got to get himself out of this if he can, other wise what reason do they have not to put Webb in there?

  356. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Great article OTKalil– I knew MBT is our QB!!! Put him in– I bet we beat the Texans with an arm like MBT.

  357. By novascotiavike on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Wobschall preaches “patience”……. He hasn’t suffered through 44+ years of losing like some of us……..knowing that he is preaching to a younger fan base, he just placates them…..I ‘m 55, I can’t listen to that %@#$ any more.

    I want a Super Bowl before I die.

  358. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Wobschall is full of it– his answers are framed to his agenda– he is speaking to children, I think– any of us with half a brain can see through his ridiculous logic. Ponder is the man he says because he played well the first five games– would you keep an employee who does great for a month, then messes up the next two?

  359. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    57 and two are teams with 200 plus yards rushing since 2000– and then after last Sunday it was 58 and three. How do you lose with 210 yards by AP? HOW? It is Ponder.

  360. By novascotiavike on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Who the HE!! DID WE BEAT ???? …..San Fran………..

    1 Sunday Sept. 9 Jacksonville Jaguars
    2 Sunday Sept. 16 at Indianapolis Colts
    3 Sunday Sept. 23 San Francisco 49ers
    4 Sunday Sept. 30 at Detroit Lions
    5 Sunday Oct. 7 Tennessee Titans
    6 Sunday Oct. 14 at Washington Redskins
    7 Sunday Oct. 21 Arizona Cardinals

  361. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    And Wobbles has been really lazy this year with blogs prior to kickoff.

  362. By novascotiavike on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Wobschall doesn’t give a sh1t about the bloggers, or informing them, Titus.
    That’s why you rarely hear from me on this blog.

  363. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    we find out now that Barry Sanders retired early because of poor qb play and lack of playoff games.he basicly was sick of being a one man band. could Ponder do the same thing to AP? find a better qb for AP!!!!!!!

  364. By Tomcat on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    A Vikings Superbowl is on my bucket list, and I can see it coming.

  365. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    a Vikings superbowl will be impossible with Ponder starting as qb

  366. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    If we don’t get a Superbowl within 4 years, I will adopt a new team– maybe my home town Bills– or Bengals cause I spent two years of college near there. Oh geesh– all my teams lose!

  367. By Tomcat on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    You can bet if Ponder lays an egg again, Frazier will go to the bullpen.

  368. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier doesn’t have a choice anymore, all 4 games are must win, but in all reality, Frazier just let too many games slip by, becase Ponder is “the Man”- now the team is desperate

  369. By novascotiavike on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Have any of you stopped to wonder why, on this, the “official” site of the Minnesota Vikings, there has been NO MENTION of Harvin, arguably our 2nd best weapon, GOING ON IR ????????????

    Wobschall…….go “sprinkle” somewhere else.

  370. By Shawn on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    nova … would you forgive Michael Vick if he won a Super Bowl for the Vikings?

  371. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    i bet Johnny Manziel comes to the NFL by next year, youngest pro qb ever!

  372. By novascotiavike on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Wobschall……Why not title the next blog…..”Christian Ponder: Worth the Money?”

    I’ve got a better chance of getting cervical cancer…..

  373. By Shawn on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    TJack might be available in the offseason ….

  374. By novascotiavike on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn, if Vick QB’d the Vikes, I would not watch them.

  375. By Shawn on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    even if they were in the Super Bowl?

  376. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    There are some rumors of going after Vick– and you know, it is Philly connection, so it is a rumor with higher probability than most.

  377. By novascotiavike on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Even……………………………

    Some things just matter more to me….

  378. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder should pay the Vikings to play

  379. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    we all know Vick is a good qb if the OL can protect him, i think he would do well as a viking

  380. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    If Vick came over, it would probably be a joke– but if hey did well, I would root for them– Vick paid his dues, time to forgive.

  381. By Shawn on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    well i like nova so im against the part time ability of vick

  382. By Ponder AKA 3 and out on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    he would be fairly cheap also coming off a bad year, plenty of cap space for Vick

  383. By Shawn on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    honestly i dont hate vick … i hate part time players

  384. By Tomcat on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Favre was bad enough. i don`t think I could take Vick. Don`t like him as a qb either.

  385. By Tomcat on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Carson Palmer may be available. Don`t know how old he is.

  386. By novascotiavike on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Vick is brittle toast.

    Karma is a female dog.

  387. By liito on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Vikes are 32nd on the passing game. Is there no embarassment to this when opponents game plan in stopping AP? Does Management need to hire a football genius to analyze / evaluate what no passing attack means? You “gotta, woulda, shoulda, coulda done better” interviews does not translate to observed efforts or changes made on the field. HELP ADRIAN, PLEASE. HELP HIM GET LOOSE.

  388. By Tomcat on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Yeah, it would be hard to look your dog in the eye.

  389. By novascotiavike on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSWjujqscxCN329SW4VDsBnWSsN32f0PUwDlKfF5ySdgu_DiF94

  390. By Tomcat on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    nova- Best funny all day. Had to call my wife to see.

  391. By novascotiavike on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    @ Tomcat…..Sorry if I had to make you guys communicate…HAHAHAHAA !!!

  392. By novascotiavike on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

  393. By Tomcat on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    It`s o.k.it was time to let her out of the closet anyway.

  394. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    I think MBT is our QB– anyone read the classic Acres of Diamonds– short book on people who traveled all over looking for their dream when it was right under their nose all along. MBT!!

  395. By Ozzinator on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    ha ha Nova!

  396. By novascotiavike on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    She’ll love this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  397. By Ozzinator on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    MBT, MBT, MBT, MBT

  398. By Parkway on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    MBT says he’s been getting better all year, sadly Ponder cannot say the same.

  399. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    And MBT will not be anyone’s chew toy.

  400. By DuaneN on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Worst part of last week is the sideline shots of Ponder. No studying of the defense, sitting next to AP looking like a lost puppy. Apparently you don’t need to study when you know you’ll miss high and right almost every throw.

    Vick has to want to come here. I hope it happens.

    I just wanna see Webb play one game, no way he is worse than Ponder. Even if he throws terrible, Webb is great at avoiding sacks. PLAY HIM

  401. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Interesting point Duane– now I am a bit mad about it all– why is Ponder not studying when he is on the side– all good QBs do — especially if it ain’t workin!!!

  402. By Shawn on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    MBT getting better all season and still sitting behind Webb and Ponder … sounds like an amazing talent.

  403. By vikesfan5.0 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    MBT looked like the best QB in the preseason.

  404. By Shawn on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    lol … no he didnt. he had one decent outing vs guys not in the league anymore

  405. By Shawn on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    none of our qbs looked good in the preseason

  406. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    MBT is without question the best QB on our roster.

  407. By vikesfan5.0 on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Hes a dam beast!!! Higher ceiling than Ponder or Webb

  408. By Shawn on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    preseason game 1

    Ponder … 4-9 … 80 yards
    MBT …….. 3-7 … 49 yards … 1 INT
    Webb …. 4-11 … 20 yards

    game 2

    Ponder … 10-13 … 136 yards … 1 TD
    Webb …… 7-15 … 73 yards
    Sage ……. 4-8 …… 63 yards

    game 3

    Ponder … 9-16 …. 115yards … 1 INT
    Webb ….. 6-8 ……… 59 yards
    Sage ……. 6-6 …… 51 yards … 1 TD

    game 4

    MBT … 15-29 … 193yards … 1td – 1int
    Sage …. 7-11 …. 111yards … 1td
    Webb …. 4-7 …. 47 yards

  409. By Tomcat on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    I know he has a rocket arm and good size, but I don`t know much else.

  410. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Stats are meaningless Shawn. I saw the kid– he has “it.”

  411. By Shawn on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    lol funny stuff titus

  412. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Let him play so he can perfect his abilities.

  413. By Shawn on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    i saw him play and didnt see “it” … saw a kid playing college back ups miss almost as many as he completed … he falls right in line with the mediocrity we have now

    Joe Webb is the closest to “it” on the team ….

  414. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn, you may need to visit the optometrist.

  415. By Shawn on Dec 8, 2012 | Reply

    Webb and TJack have rocket arms

  416. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Webb has rocket reflexes.

  417. By Shawn on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply
    Webb has rocket reflexes.

    ______________________________________________________

    Sometimes referred to as instinct … or “it”

  418. By Shawn on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Webb has that Tebow ability … that when the team needs it most he makes something happen

  419. By vikesfan5.0 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Webb should be a WR

  420. By vikesfan5.0 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I like snow! (for now)

  421. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    No Shawn — reflexes also known as fright or flight– instinct like, but in a reactionary way. Keep trying — you may win the argument if you try enough angles.

  422. By Shawn on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    fright or flight is what ponder has …

  423. By Shawn on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    im not going to argue about it … webb is just the best we have not the best

  424. By novascotiavike on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

  425. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder has fright and flight as well– Webb just looks less frightened cause he is larger and tends to avoid a few more tackles. MBT is the best QB we have, not even a close contest with those other two.

  426. By novascotiavike on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    “And though I hope for something ^^^^^^^^^^^^^to find, I can see no place to unwind”.

  427. By Shawn on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    im predicting a win tomorrow in the dome ponder will be average and hold his job

  428. By vikesfan5.0 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I would really like to see MBT play one game this year.

  429. By Shawn on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    o average by ponder standards … 150 yards 1td 1 int

  430. By vikesfan5.0 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Webb needs to be in as a WR!!!

  431. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    MBT MBT — MBT MBT– I hope the dome erupts into MBT MBT

  432. By vikesfan5.0 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Super Sleeper MBT!!!!!!!!!!!

  433. By Parkway on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I predict Ponder gets booed every time he steps onto the field

  434. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I predict Ponder gets booed during halftime when he is in the locker room.

  435. By Champ Henson on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway – i think you are right.

  436. By Champ Henson on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    i can’t wait until ponder is benched!!!!

  437. By Parkway on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Here’s a post that supports my “Frazier wanted him theory”:

    CHRISTIAN PONDER IN COLLEGE his whole CAREER PLAYED 6 RANKED OPPENENTS
    SENIOR YEAR
    10 OKLAHOMA
    11-28 110 YARDS 2 INT. IN A BLOWOUT LOSS

    13 MIAMI FL
    12 – 21 173 2 TD 1 INT

    HIS SENIOR BOWL GAME
    1-5 6 YARDS

    ————————————————————————-
    JUNIOR
    7 BYU
    21-27 270 2 TD

    22 GEORGIA TECH
    26-37 350 5 TD

    ………………………………………………………………
    SOPH
    25 MARYLAND
    19-24 143 1 TD

    2 GOOD GAMES OVER A 3 YEAR TIME PERIOD. IN A DIVISION WHERE TIM TEBOW LOOKED LIKE THE NEXT JOHN ELWAY.

    theres no way a collection of minds picked this guy in the draft. it had to be 1 person’s pipe dream.

  438. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    If Ponder is booed– I predict he will fumble

  439. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Poor Ponder– he was put in this mess– it’s not his fault. Boo Musgrave and Frazier.

  440. By Champ Henson on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I predict he will fake an injury…..at least i hope he does.

  441. By Nicholas on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Seasons Greetings!

    Leslie Frazier for DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR!!!! (a natural fit for Mr. Frazier)

    Proven Winner (such as Gruden) for HEAD COACH!!

    REPLACE Musgrave!!

    Christian Ponder for BACKUP QB! (let him develop behind someone..then see if he works)

    Pay Percy Harvin!!

  442. By Champ Henson on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Tiebow and Ponder both sucked in college.

  443. By Parkway on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Oh another supporting piece to the Frazier puzzle since many were blaming Spielman:

    If Leslie Frazier doesn’t like what he sees from Christian Ponder on Sunday against the Bears, the Vikings coach has the power to bench him.

    “That was one of the good things about when they hired me to be the head coach,” Frazier said this week. “They allowed me to make changes. Similar to what I had to do a year ago in Detroit. I can make those changes during the course of a game without having to get that red phone and get a call to (owner Zygi Wilf in) New York.”

    http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_22147899/vikings-coach-leslie-frazier-decision-stick-or-pull

  444. By Bluebird7 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Yes, put MBT in. Let us see just how great he is. Put this BS to rest finally.

  445. By Shawn on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    well parkway you know what that means right?

    last year when we were all … yes me included … going through this same qb wah wah bench mcnabb whining … demanding ponder … frazier was right ponder wasnt ready … but we forced his hand and her we are

    frazier was right then … i trust frazier is right now … we have no viable option at qb … he and we are stuck with ponder.

    i disagree with frazier because i like webb but frazier sees these clowns everyday … we only see ponder on sunday

  446. By Shawn on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    frazier does not pick talent anymore … spielman does … so however or whoever got ponder is off the hook … spielman has to get new talent

    spielman gets talent

    frazier plays guys that deserve to play …

  447. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    And Spielman kept MBT over Sage because he saw the kid has “it.”

  448. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Thanks Shawn.

  449. By Shawn on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    lol …. like i said whatever he has is less than webb and ponder … that is amazing “it”

  450. By Shawn on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    titus … i would love for you to be right … i would love mbt to be the next kurt warner …. i just havebt seen anything to be excited about yet

  451. By Dueyz on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t like being a bandwagon person, but….I have to take issue with this “Give him more time” mentality. Been hearing it for years from our fans. It has become nails on a chalkboard for me. I understand certain things take time for developing. And I don’t subscribe to the “I need instant results or I call for heads to roll” mentality. But how much do you need to see? Some people will run a bad idea into the ground at the expense of prudent conclusions. I don’t like hearing our fans do it, but I’m more concerned that our organization does it. Sometimes there are simply no better alternatives, I understand. But this team HAS to stop making decisions this way. We seem to have a laundry list of excuses waiting for our failing projects, and it is SORRY to witness as a die-hard fan. No one wants to invest in an idea and fall short, and this sport is filled with pridefull people. The time has come for a warden to step into our organization and disrupt the “Give him more time” way of doing business.

    Fans who suggest a change are accused of not having purple pride. That’s like saying I have no pride in my car because I want to change my flat tire. I DON’T need to give my flat tire “more time”.

  452. By Parkway on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Pretty good article on Ponder:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1434206-christian-ponder-cant-cut-it-for-minnesota-vikings-so-what-comes-next

    Goes into a lot of statistical analysis as well as comparisons to other QBs.

  453. By Dueyz on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    @Parkway

    Wonderful artical. Very well measured and put together with tons of facts to make clear conclusions. This article echos my thoughts that neither Ponder nor Webb will be a success for MIN, or in this league period! Silver linings for both, but big picture says MOVE ON. It’s become absurd that those who see this are accused of not being “true fans”, or “not understanding the game”. As in so many walks of life, it would seem that the “cool crowd” is again the ones with their finger the furthest from the pulse. Solid post, Parkway.

  454. By j.g. on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    its time for web, who knows, maybe by benching ponder the humility will make him better, you know like a wake up call. god knows this team needs a spark and i think web can do it. simpson is lame, send him back to the bengals. frazier needs to grow some nads.

  455. By Dueyz on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is a flat tire. Webb is nothing more than the spare from the trunk. Definitely better short term option to get us down the road, but no better of a long term solution.

  456. By Dueyz on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    …time to get to a ‘QB’ tire shop and get a real tire. Offseason, here we come!

  457. By Dueyz on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Benching Ponder is not going to make him better. Bringing in Webb is not going to make him the future.

  458. By Dueyz on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Good grief…watch football and understand what you see. Do some homework, and believe history. Ponder is not Aikman, or Manning, or whoever you want to compare him to. Webb is never going to be a HOFer, or go win the big dance. Really??? That’s what some of you truly believe when you watch their body of work? Ok.

  459. By Kathy P on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Good post Dueyz. I like the comparison using the “flat-tire” technique. We, as fans, who have followed this organization for many,many yrs. get the picture as well. How long ,is long enough to prove to someone that you have progressed or digressed in Ponders case. It gets very frustrating to us all who sit here week after week hoping for a miracle. I never thought that my team would make it to the playoffs. But, at least, knowing that a couple of these games were within reach, and then stupid mistakes being made cost us, makes it even more frustrating. Now, Frazier brings up a defensive tackle, when he knows we need help on the WR’s side. Just ludicrous, not thinking at all. This too, is frustrating for us fans. No common sense being used. AND Frazier saying just last week, we need to look at getting help with the WR’s? We need to overall this team for sure. We need leadership who knows what they are doing and adjusting game plays week to week to improve themselves. This current coaching staff has not done this,hence,we keep in the same old black pit. It’s a day late and a dollar short at this time in the season, but I will continue to support my team as I always have. The only good thing we have going for this team is AP in my estimation. I truly wish him well will achieving his goal this year.

  460. By Bluebird7 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Me two.

  461. By Bluebird7 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Bears have been picked over the sleeping Vikings. Surprise?

  462. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Every fan has a right to be as critical of Ponder as they want…Each fan sees each play a different way…

    Why did Musgarve call a pass play on 2nd and 2, and 3rd and 2…With the best running back in football in your backfield ???…
    The ball was thrown to late too Wright on that pass play…Coverage was getting there…
    I thought Wright was wide open…etc,etc…

    We all knew a long time ago…The game planning by Frazier and Musgrave was neglecting the passing game early in the season…And would cause us plenty of problems down the road if not corrected…

    Well here we are…Frazier has his running game…And a passing game that is nonexistent…And everyone is mad at Ponder ??…

    The passing game was put to the back burner, while Harvin was still playing…How do you expect Ponder to light things up now with the duds we have at WR now ???…

    Eveyone is entitled their on opinion…But mine is this…Ponder will be handed a “get out of jail free” card the rest of this season…Being without Harvin the last few weeks, and now…The rest of this season…

    I think there is plenty to blame to share all over with Ponder, WR, O-line and coaching…And not just on the arm or talent of Christian Ponder….

    Go Vikes !!!…Go AP !!!…Go Ponder!!!…Go defense !!!…

    Find a way to WIN today !!!

  463. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Spielman…

    I am serious…Hire Favre to come in and help Ponder out !!!…Many of his problems are mechanics and just a few “tricks of the trade”…Things that Favre was a master of !!!…

    Favre has shown some interest in coaching ??…Get his help…

    How about Brett Favre for offensive coordinator next season ???…I think he could do a lot more bringing along a young QB, much better than Musgrave !!!

  464. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    *own opinion….above

  465. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    How about Gruden as head coach…And Favre as offensive coordinator ???…

    Gruden has said for YEARS he has always wanted to work with Favre…

    Here would be an oppritunity to get these 2 great football minds together !!!..

  466. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    And don’t think for a minute…Favre would not still love to match wits against his old team and McCarthy…
    Or to be a seasonal pest to Ted Thompson !!!…heheheheeee (evil laugh there)…

  467. By Bluebird7 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    where is Mike W. and an update on injuries?

  468. By Well here I am on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I want the Bears to distroy the Vikings today…..that will send a message to the rich owners that they can not continue this bunch od dumb people messing up the great viking team. continue and there new stadium will be empty of fans.

  469. By vikingbob136 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    On my way to section 105.Hope i still have a voice by halftime.
    Lets go Vikes!

  470. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Enough Rich Gannon !!!…Quit coping my posts !!!…lol…

    Funny how close Gannons evaluation of Ponder, is to mine though…; )

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/182616181.html

  471. By Parkway on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Should be a hilarious day today

  472. By Kathy P on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Hey OT: Too Bad we didnt think about having vikingbob take a sign along with him saying “we are waiting for you Gruden”. That would really take the cake huh?

  473. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Kathy P…

    That would be sooooo funny !!…vikingbob holding up a sign saying “Gruden for head coach”…

    Or even add Favre to that sign also for offensive coordinator 2013… ; )

  474. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway…

    I agree…I just wonder HOW the Vikings will hit the “self destruct” button today ???…

    Will it be Ponder with ints, coaching and game planning, AP drop some fumbles, Kluwe kicking the ball 10 yards, refs with bad calls, etc ???…

    You just know something will happen the wrong way to end this season….

    Or will it ???…lol…

  475. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    too bad we are not playing outdoors today– that would be a good one with all this snow.

  476. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I love snow!

  477. By Parkway on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    All next year at TCF, hope we get a coach that can make us a good mudder

  478. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Titus…

    Sure have to admit…It would be fun to watch the game in the snow today…

    I’m not much of a snow person…But my chocolate lab loves the stuff !!!…It brings the puppy out of her every new fresh snow fall…It is funny to watch her bound around in the powder…Burying her head in it…And playing peek-a-boo with me while running around like crazy…

    Glad somebody likes the stuff…

  479. By BlueBird7 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    You wouldn’t like the snow and cold if you had to work in it, like I did.

  480. By Argos Geminus Sparticus Esperanza on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Titus, do you spend most of your life on this blog because you have no family and friends or to escape reality. You seem to think you own this blog. Typical behavior of an insecure person. Have a nice day :-)

  481. By Parkway on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Wobz has gotten really lazy with the blogs, not even a gameday blog yet

  482. By BlueBird7 on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    When he wakes up, he will be his normal self ie: Plenty of syrup.

  483. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    Off to church–

  484. By vikingfanforlife on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    So.sew buttons on your arse.whole, the coaching staff likes what they see in Chris Summers, but they are not going to let the 6 foot 5 inch receiver play. Why is that, pray tell?

  485. By DrinkHeavy on Dec 9, 2012 | Reply

    I’m not someone who calls for wholesale changes at the drop of a hat. But I respect the opinions of Vikings fans who are fed up with what they see as our franchise QB getting progressively worse as the year goes along when you see other rookie and 2nd year QBs having reasonably good success. If you believe what Spielman says about Ponder being our franchise QB, then you have to seriously question whether the GM and the coaching staff are truly NFL caliber because Ponder’s success depends on who is playing around him (talent) and how they are prepared (coaching). Either situation, a potential franchise QB bust, or terrible player personnel/coaching, is unacceptable to many long-suffering Vikings fans.

    Ponder, Webb whatever, I’m hoping to get a win against the Bears this week at home. GO VIKES

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