Peterson (210 Rushing Yards) Dominates, But Vikings Lose 23-14 To Packers

Posted by Mike Wobschall on December 3, 2012 – 7:48 am

The Green Bay Packers couldn’t stop Adrian Peterson, but they were able to capitalize on mistakes from other Vikings players enough to claim a 23-14 win over their border rivals at Lambeau Field on Sunday. Peterson put on a performance to remember, rushing for 210 yards and 1 TD on 21 carries. It came in a losing effort, though, as QB Christian Ponder and the Vikings passing offense continued to sputter.

The Vikings were in a 10-0 hole early in the game, but Peterson single-handedly dug them out by constantly running around, past and through an overmatched Packers defense. Peterson had a TD run of 82 yards and another run of 48 yards on the first play of the 3rd quarter, and for the afternoon he averaged 10 yards per carry. His 82-yard score in the 2nd quarter put the Vikings ahead 14-10, an advantage they would carry with them to the locker room at halftime.

Peterson’s 48-yard jaunt to open the 3rd quarter put the Vikings in position to take a commanding 21-10 lead, but a poor decision and throw by Ponder resulted in an INT in the end zone. Green Bay took advantage of the mistake by driving 51 yards in 12 plays to add a FG and pull within one point. Green Bay scored a rushing TD later in the 3rd quarter to take the lead, and they wouldn’t look back. The dagger came when Green Bay QB Aaron Rodgers led an 11-minute scoring drive to open the 4th quarter and stake the Packers to the final 23-14 advantage.

The loss drops the Vikings to 6-6, two games behind both Green Bay and Chicago in the NFC North. It also drops them to 9th place overall in the NFC because they lose tie-breakers to both Dallas and Tampa Bay. The Vikings will have to recover quickly, though, because they have a chance to get right back in the thick of the playoff picture by defeating the Bears at home on Sunday.

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325 Responses to “Peterson (210 Rushing Yards) Dominates, But Vikings Lose 23-14 To Packers”

  1. By Let's get Real on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is terrible. The vikings need a real qb.

  2. By New Vike on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Would be nice if the Vikings offense had somebody else besides Adrian on the field…

  3. By Troutdaddy on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry, but after speaking to several who I consider to be experts on QB’s, Ponder is not going to be a franchise QB for anyone. If the Vikes continue to believe in this scheme then the fact base is going to dwindle. Wilf should realize this…

  4. By hippster on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply


  5. By rusty on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    ponder needs to be on bench were he should be for a long time after that game,lets start looking for a new head coach to he is just as bad as ponder.

  6. By Bigfan1 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Coach Ryan benched Sanchez and won the game, why doesn’t Frazier follow suit? The QBs now days don’t need years of OJT to flourish, look at the all the rookies who are lighting up the league. These QBs are consistent in their play, that’s the difference. Week after week Ponder says he’s going back to study more and get better. How many more weeks and years are we going to hear this? Why does it seem like an infraction of Frazier’s moral code to bench Ponder. You can call it lack of protection or lack of WRs, but the fact is he can’t throw very well., Most of the few completions he made yesterday were wide and barely caught by receivers. The Vikings better get a serious QB this draft like Barkley from USC this kid has a laser cannon for an arm. They may be able to get him since he’s not in the Heisman run anymore.

  7. By James on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I’m about to just go on a strike if this continue! I can’t see how the coaches staff doesn’t realize that ponders a joke! Ziggy wilf needs to step in and make something happen. If he leaves it up to les then I’m done attending games! I need to get a hold of the wilfs!! Anybody know how?

    Fire les and all his coaching staff, cut ponder, cut all our wrs except for harvin and wright.

  8. By Bigfan1 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Hats off to AP, 200+ yards rushing, wow and against the Packers. Way to go AP the best running back in the NFL.

  9. By vikingfanforlife on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Christian Ponder is the Green Bay Packers MVP

  10. By BlueBird7 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    The total Turth!

    The Vikings season is over! Take the ball away from Ponder!

    For the remaining games try out Joe Webb and/or Bethel Thompson,McLead.

    Lets see what they have!

  11. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply


  12. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    BB7 We can say ball now??? OMG

  13. By DRS. on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Pay Percy? Why? He is never plays for a full year.

  14. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    No Woodson, no Mathews, no excuse for the passing game

  15. By DRS. on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry, that should have been,

    Pay Percy? Why? He never plays for a full year.

  16. By Kathy P on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    This loss was all on Ponder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  17. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Hey everyone…Things could be worse…

    How would you like to be Cristian Ponder this coming Sunday, running out on the the field at the dome…After the way he handled the Packer game yesterday ???…: /

  18. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Fine dont Pay Percy. We can get by with the receivers we have now right?

  19. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    If I was AP and I ran for 200+ at 10.0 average and my QB (who mind you is supposed to be NFL caliber) can’t throw one succesfull playaction pass…. I would flip a b*tch!!!!! Ponder is the worst Vikings QB in the last 10 years… HANDS DOWN!!! get that Joke off the field as soon as we can, weather it is next week or next year. Either way I don’t want to watch another season with that laughable talent at the helm… Unless all of our receivers want to run all the way down the field for a 3 yard pass…. this is just rediculous

  20. By DRS. on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings, how is that youth movement going?

  21. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I would take being Ponder over being me right now. He gets to be babied at work and still make more the 1 million dollars this year, not including you can suck and still go home and get layed by your FOX reporter GF…

    Ponder will be fine, it’s the team and the franchise i’m worried about

  22. By Mike B. on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I fully agree with Wobby in the Mailbag. Ponder is going to get this season to prove himself or not. We as fans need to realize this and cheer them on reguardless. Ponder just may end up suprising everyone by the end of the season. I really don’t think you can judge this team on Ponder’s performance alone. as a team we are not playing good football. AP gets my exception. Defensively we are better than last year, but not where we were a few years ago. Brinkley is not the replacement for EJ as others had expected. We need a solid replacement for Pat Williams. We are one or two pieces away in the secondary. Offensively the OL is doing well with the run and pooly with the p@ss. WR core is awful. I am hoping that the issue with Harvin is the injury only. If it is anything else, I am thinking he’s done on this team. I personally would hate to see that I think he’s a great player. But you need to cut troublemakers off the team. QB, I am not convinced that Ponder is the long term QB, but I am willing to wait as I am also waiting to see how Frazier finishes out this year. I know Webb and MBT are not the guys to replace Ponder. So you now know where I stand Goo Vikings.

  23. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I agree with Kathy P…

    The entire loss was on Ponder. Everyone else played pretty darn good football!!!!! Those two picks lost us the game! not to mention all the rediculous overthrows

  24. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    No offense, But Wobby gets paid to support this team… I wouldn’t bite the hand that feeds me either… even if what I thought or said was the truth… Just sayin

  25. By vikesfan on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Go get Alex Smith after the season

  26. By DRS. on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Most of our receivers are not the answer, we need to cut most and get players from other teams who want to play, not sitting on the bench getting a big fat pay check.

  27. By dfreshny on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    its a good thing that was not at home because i dont think theres anyway your going to another viking game after watching that ap is incredible how long b4 adrian demands a trade i bet hes got a real decision to make when his contract is up same with percy remember u can only franchise tag a guy once i believe. next year might be percy last year in minnesota, this sucks what a good team gone to waste i think its already over they just blew it no way we win last 4 to get into playoffs. im tired of hearing “oh we’ll get em when they come to our house” not good coaching sorry leslie if a player doesnt perform well somebody else will. if adrian doesnt perform well its blamed on the line i dont care who we had for a quarterback we still need somebody to teach them look what brett farve did to this team because of experience what eperience does musgrave have other than repeated terrible playcalling. call a play that so good and simple that he cant mess it up but no lets have him roll against his reciever instead of with and why arent the wideouts coming back to the quarteback a lot easier to throw if your closer to him he obviously is having a tough time getting the ball downfield, but he got away from the screens because percy the only receiver that can make that play work right, wrong if your guys cant do it get guys who can sometimes you gotta bring people in who fit your placalling scheme our offensive coordinator acts like he knows nothing about offense maybe he should be the other teams defensive coordinators because hes really good at stopping our offense most regular football fans can do a better job, pay me half his money ill come rite in and do that good does he even show up to practice

  28. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply



  29. By DRS. on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    We need more players like AP, love his work ethic and devotion to the game.

  30. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Well we have Percy but I agree we need another game changer. maybe 2 or 3.

  31. By Huskies on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    How many excuses can we make up for Ponder’s lack of ability to pass the ball and read defenses. Frazer needs to wake up and give our back-up quarterbacks a chance because they definitely can’t do any worse than Ponder. We will be looking for a quarterback and coach for next year. The fans are tired of hearing excuses from Ponder and Frazer about we will work on these issues in practice this week.

  32. By DRS. on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    We need veterans to teach the youth how to win, Ponder should have not been the starter until he had time in the NFL to learn how things work. All great players had someone to mentor them before becoming the star they are now. A good coach knows this.

  33. By realviking on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @Mike B

    Your quick to point out Brinkley is not EJ replacement which I totally agree with you because he haven’t proved anything, but why do you fail to realize Ponder is not and never will be a franchise qb. You continue to support Ponder while he’s stinking it up because he’s supposedly the hand picked franchise qb, but your basing everybody else do you not know that they were hand picked to be our starters our are you just playing favoritism.

    I respect that you been watching the Vikings for a long time but I been spring this team for a long time to. Any fan whose been watching this team for a long time knows that we’ve been through this before where a quarterback is crowned before proven. I didn’t sport it before and I’m not supporting it now. I remember you was one of the fans that wanted t.jack out after he was Childress hand picked selection to be our franchise qb so why is it you support Ponder because he was selected to be the franchise qb its not like he’s done or doing anything spectacular.

  34. By dfreshny on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    can we get cris carter for receivers coach pay him half their sallaries

  35. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Fraizers complete confidence in Ponder (fake or not) proves to me that he is a terrible judge of talent and inept to be a head coach of an NFL football team. I don’t think he has the leadership skills to run a team. Its the same junk game after game. Fraizer says hes not going to change QBs and POnder says he has to improve. Ponder is not improving at all, in fact he is going backwards… And fraizer still says that POnder is the Guy…

    FIRE THE COACHING STAFF AND EVERY ONE ON IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    BENCH< CUT< TRADE< RELEASE PONDER!!!!!!!!!!!!! any are fine.

    Just get him the EFF off my team

  36. By DRS. on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    We may have Percy but how good is that when he sits on the bench and is not playing? We need someone who can play all the time and/or works his a-s-s off to get back into the game as AP did.

  37. By DRS. on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Have things to do so have fun and a great day.

  38. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    People that support POnder need to look past the fact that he was a first round pick. Sometimes this stuff doesn’t work out. it’s ok to understand and know the truth. Not everyone drafted in the first round turns out to be great or even good. POnder is awful and needs to go. I don’t care if he was drafted 1st overall or last overall… He is done. What a joke of a player!!!

    you don’t have to support him because he was drafted first round. In fact you should hold him to a higher standard which none of the “ponder supporters” do….

  39. By dfreshny on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    get gruden ,cowher, billick and put leslie back at d.c. hes not willing to make the calls i see him shaking his head on the sideline if their not doing what their supposed to do something abou it

  40. By dfreshny on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    yes ponder so far rate right with ryan leaf

  41. By BlueBird7 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B

    How do you know for a fact that MBT or Webb are not the answer?

    Neither one has been really given a chance to show anything yet this year.

    Like others above, I have been a Viking Fan for more years then you.

    Had the great years of good teams, and years like now and last year .Bad!

  42. By BlueBird7 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply


    Just kept trying “ball” untill Mike W. gave up. Keep Trucking !

  43. By Mike B. on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I am not saying that Ponder should or shouldn’t be the QB of the future. what I am saying for this season, I am willing to give him the chance to prove it or not prove it. I pointed out Brinkley as another example of a player not meeting his expectations, but again I am gving him the year to prove he’s the guy. I was done with Frazier after last season, but have accepted we should give him another year. So his choices also get that benefit of the doubt. I think the rest of you should look at it this way also. We may be suprised by the results or continue this discussion in more detail in Jan 2013.

  44. By realviking on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply


    That’s what I been thinking why would wobby not support the hand that feeds him. He’s never going to say bench Ponder if Frazier keeps saying Ponder will start.
    Same situation last season McNabb was here stinking it up but wobby kept saying he supports the coaches decision of starting McNabb because they’re putting the best players out their.

    As soon ass McNabb gets benched wobby made it seem like he wanted it all along he’s still bashing McNabb till now but was ok with him starting.
    Why should I listen to a guy who doesn’t want the best for my team, a guy who is scared to give his true opinion, a guy who accepts any b.s. the team says. Wobby doesn’t make his own decision watch as soon as the Ponder project fails watch how quick he turns against Ponder and talk about how horrible he was.

  45. By hippster on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @muskyfever sounds like its time to go fishing ,its not worth the pain

  46. By Mike B. on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Besides if Webb or MBT were the answer they would already be playing.

  47. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    unreal, even Dallas is ahead of us now, thanks Ponder!!!!!!!!

  48. By VaVikingsFan on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder has proven he cannot be a premier, or maybe even average NFL QB. That pass he under threw to AP down the sideline, which would have been a TD, was terrible. He throws late and weak. He needs to go.

  49. By Mike B. on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    realviking let’s be completely honest McNabb’s problems on the Vikings was directly related to extremely poor play by our OL and not so much on McNabb. We face the same issue to a lesser degree this year. Our OL is horrible on p@ss offense.

  50. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @ Hippster…

    Unfortenatly Musky season ended yesterday. Not I am just waiting for the ice to come so I can go again. I am on a short fishing Hiatus. But trust me… It would take all of the fishing in the world to keep me calm about our “franchise” QB. lol.. Oh man, I need to go fishing

  51. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    they have a segment on the nfl channel of the top 10 qb busts. they will have to remake it. Leaf was #1, Ponder will come in at #2

  52. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @ Mike B… sounds like more and more QB excuses to me… If you get pressure be SMART throw the ball away. But Ponder can’t think that way. I will agree that there is some that can go on the OL… But most of the poor QB play is because the QB is TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  53. By hippster on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @muskyfever yea i know ive been a fan for over forty,but fishing for almost fifty,u catch any big musky through the ice

  54. By realviking on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @Mike B

    So your the kind of fan who would watch a coach destroy your team just because he was selected to be the coach.
    Your the kind of fam who supports any stupid decision our organization makes.
    When we were in need of a new stadium you would’ve supported or team being sold and moved just because it was the leaders decision.
    That my friend is not a true fan a true fan don’t believe or support anything that can break his or her team.
    You say you didn’t want Frazier after last season but your willing to ride with him this season then your uncertain truth is your confused.
    If a sneaker doesn’t fit you why would you buy another pair the same size when you know its to tight

  55. By realviking on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Throwing at receivers gets are not the lines problem throwing to the defense is not the lines fault, not knowing when to throw the ball away is not the lines fault and being out of shape is not the lines fault

  56. By Mike B. on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Hey realviking I was a fan during the Herschel Walker trade and stayed a fan for the decade of poor teams that followed the trade. Besides how many of you said this summer to support Frazier give him another year when I was calling for his head. I said ok let’s see what he’s got. Ponder is Fraziers guy well let’s give him the season to see what he’s got. I clearly remember serveral in here saying give Frazier another year. Specifically Fred. Well I am giving him the entire year as will I give Ponder that same year.

  57. By VaVikingsFan on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    The O-line played well yesterday. This was all Ponder. Late, weak throws, bad decisions, not seeing oportunities down field, nothing right for him. I listened to Troy Aikman rag on him all game yesterday, and I have to agree with him. Aikman does not something about being an excellent NFL QB. Ponder is not it.

  58. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder makes T-JACK look like a starting qb

  59. By Mike B. on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    You all forget the NFL experts said this team will be the worst in football this year and we still are in contention for a playoff spot. We have improved as a team, but all of you want to complain about a single game or a single person. It’s the team not just the QB.

  60. By Bigfan1 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    The Vikings are super bowl champs at taxing the patience of fans Ponder is getting worse as the season progresses. It’s obvious managers are content to play out this season with Ponder and hope next season will be better. What happens if it’s the same, at what point will they even think another QB? We really miss Sidney Rice.

  61. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Luck has the Colts going to the playoffs coming off a 2-15 season. Luck will have the Colts in the playoffs just about every single year for the next 15 years. the sad part is, we have a better team than the colts have, they just have a much better qb

  62. By VaVikingsFan on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B, I was willing to give them the year as well, but Ponder has had, what, about 19 games?? he seems to be getting worse. Green Bay’s defense was very beatable yesterday, Ponder had opportunities to take advantage of them and he blew it. Not because of the o-line or the WR’s, he could not deliver the ball. I think this game was the one that should put him on the sidlines. He has demonstrated this season he does not have it. Maybe someday he will, but It is not looking likely.

  63. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply


  64. By Mike B. on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @Bigfan1 totally agree with you on Sidney Rice is missed.

  65. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @ Hippster…

    I have caught some and lost em under the ice, but I don’t target them in the winter… For a few reasons. one, they are ill eagle to fish for through the ice.. and 2. I am very involved in stocking them ( I am the regional Vice President of muskies INC chapter #1) so I don’t want to catch em in the fall… they will most likely die once you take them out of the water. So I try to avoid it if I can.

  66. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder will be completely out of football by 2016. he will be teaching high school football

  67. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply


    Ponder has started 23 games up to this point. He is terrible and a total bust at QB. Get rid of him or make him a back up at best!!

  68. By realviking on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I’m not blaming nobody else other then Ponder and the coaches especially Frazier I don’t know since when was one player more important then the team how do you stand their and watch Ponder throw away our season.

    Simpson had three drops last week but Simpson had a good season before he came here how can we expect someone to catch pass that’s thrown out of bounds, Michael Jenkins shouldn’t be a starter but before he came here he was a reliable 3rd option Percy Harvin is our fastest offensive weapon but we can’t use him to stretch the field because Pinner can’t throw.

    We keep asking for a deep threat not realizing that we already had one stop judging Harvin based on his size. Jackson from the eagles is a deep threat and Harvin is bigger then him so is Mike Wallace a deep threat is a receiver who has the spread to beat the defense. Truth is our offense is not clicking because we don’t have a qb AP is only successful because Ponder just have have to hand him the ball that’s it other then that he can’t count on Ponder all saw the look on his face after Ponder under threw a clear td to him.

  69. By Mike B. on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @Vavikigns I agree this last was on Ponder on the offensive side and an agruement can be made about benching him at some point during the game is valid. The fans don’t make those decisions the Head Coach does. I kept watching hoping Ponder would make that last stand to win, but it didn’t happen. The Defense also made a bunch of mistakes and I want to see the complaining about that. No first touchdown of Jefferson would have just batted the b@ll away instead of going for the INT. How many offside penalties? Metal errors in abundance. All the blog is focused is on Ponder. And I saw “Ole” let in a few defenders this game, so don’t say the OL was perfect by any measure.

  70. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply


  71. By vikingcharlie1969 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Wanted: a quarterback who can accurately throw a 10 yard pass.

  72. By vikingbob136 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I said way back in Sept to sign P.Burress. He is a big target in the red zone.
    Nobody listens. Why bother with this blog?
    I guess its better than kicking the dog(if you have one)

  73. By wacky on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Y didn’t we have ponder run to the staitum tell the coach thx. for everything and owner, THEN PULL OUT .45 AND B-L-O-W HIS BRAINS OUT!!!!!!!! I WISH, I WISH, I WISH, PONDER U S-U-C-K !!!!!!

  74. By realviking on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    No experts said the colts chiefs and dolphins would be worst then us and last i checked experts can’t predict the future. Mike you believe whatever you hear if experts said we should trade AP you probably would be on here talking about trading him

  75. By vikingbob136 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Jake Long is a free agent after this year. Now that he injured himself, we might be able to get him at a discount (without the double check)

  76. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply


  77. By autobon7 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    If we stay on this path (playing ponder) mark my word we will lose most/all of our talent. This is insane that the staff continue to give every excuse in the book for this guy. Time to man up and admit Ponder is a bust. Fan base is sliding as well. Webb to play rest of season makes the most sense. I think Mike B and Wobby are special friends.

  78. By autobon7 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    realviking speaks the truth

  79. By vikingbob136 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @ Ponder A3O You stumped me!
    I did want Burress before we saw what Ponder can’t do.

  80. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply


  81. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Trade for Larry Fitz.

  82. By autobon7 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Time to stop blaming the OL and WR for this mess and MAN UP. As mentioned above the Colts have less talent than we do…..except 1 position. Luck is a winner, Ponder is not. The fans can’t take this any longer.

  83. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I’m still speechless after seeing our passing game yesterday. We are an NFL team right?

  84. By vikingbob136 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Fitzgerald’s contract is enormous and what would we offer Arizona?
    They suck more than we do. 8 losses in a row.
    All we could offer is draft choices.

  85. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    we could trade Ponder, but Arizona isn’t that d umb

  86. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    EVERYTHING about our passing game is terrible. Good WRs and OLine can make a QB look better than he is, but yesterday not only showed how bad our QB is but how bad our receivers and pass protection is.

  87. By Mike B. on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @ Ponder aka I wouldn’t worry about a no sell out when it happens 3M and target buy the unsold tickets usually.

  88. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    good qb’s make the players around him good. nobody wants to play for Ponder anymore, he has no skill set or leadership skills

  89. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    even AD was yelling at Ponder after that interception in the end zone

  90. By autobon7 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Been a Viks fan since 1975 and just about had it with the nonsense. Ponder needs to sit….Webb needs to play, period. I’d rather not root for the bears or the pack. Maybe I’ll root for the Colts when we are elimanted. Hard to swallow the fact that we were 5-2 at one point and didn’t try one single thing when we started losing. Doing nothing will result in nothing. The fans deserve WAY better than what we are getting. And I feel bad for AP and the rest of the talent we have just waisting away.

  91. By Mike B. on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @Ponder aka I haven’t heard any of the players coming out against Ponder or are you just speaking for them.

  92. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Rodgers, Cutler, and Stafford can do it without a running game, Ponder cant do it with the best RB in the league. I dont see how i can rip Ponder anymore than that sentence right there.

  93. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    i do too. AD only has 1 or 2 years left before he loses a step. 57-1 was the record when a rusher has 200 yards or more. now it’s 57-2

  94. By realviking on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    autobon 7 your right what talented player who wants to win a ring would come to us
    What receiver would want to pay with Ponder we only got Simpson because he wanted to revive his career after the charge
    We tried to get the Bucs old head coach as our defensive coordinator and he turned us down for a DB job at Washington that says it all who would turn down more money? A person who wants to win.

  95. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    didn’t you see the game mike?

  96. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    57-3 now actually

  97. By VaVikingsFan on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B, I agree the defense and O-line could have played better, there is always room for improvement, but, they both played well enough to win in my opinion, and Ponder did not. This is a re-occuring theme. The Vikings are 28th in the league in time of possession. Maybe if we could sustain drives better, the defense could be more effective. Maybe if our QB could make quicker decisions and had a decient arm, he could bail the O-line out once and a while and we coud keep the ball longer. This team has some holes that need to be filled, I see that. I can also see that no matter what protection Ponder gets, he can’t get it done. Many of his bad throws are not when he is under pressure. He is just not good and everybody sees it. Not just fans, but pretty much everybody. Name one person outside of the Vikings org that thinks Ponder is any good?

  98. By autobon7 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder aka 3 and out speaks the truth. Good QBs make eveyone around them better. Even averege players. Look at the Colts Wayne is great, we have Harvin and he is great. We have a better OL than them and a fantastic TE with great hands (look at the 1 hander from yesterday). We have the best RB in the NFL. Yet the Colts are better than we are…….poor QB and coaching is the dif. ?…..when does your RB get 200+ in a game and still lose? Answer…..when you have Ponder at the helm. Kinda makes Tjack look good.

  99. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @Mike B Peterson was in Ponder’s face after the INT. Ponder’s response to it should tell you all you need to know about the Pond.

  100. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Cultlers big arm bails out their poor offensive line for the bears.

  101. By vikesince69 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I have been defending Ponder since he joined the team but no more. He is not the QB that will ever win a SB with this team! But since were at it lets get a new coaching staff and hit the reset button. The Wylfs need to really go after the guy, whoever that is, that can take this team to an elite level, give him a five year contract and let him have the steering wheel. I mean lets face it, Frazier got this job on an experimental basis and the experiment has failed. Speilman did a good job with the draft this year but he has to get more aggressive in Free Agency. I hate to see JA and AP talents go wasted and were getting close to that happening. May have two or three more seasons between them. Finally, I am really nervous about the direction of this organization. If we dont make the right moves this off season we could be wandering around in the wilderness for another decade!!!

  102. By Wild Viking on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I think Ponder has been given enough time. Sometimes you have to respond to the fan base. Rex Ryan did and the crowd really got behind the new QB. There’s a lot to be said for a crowd being in the game and behind who is on the field. Ponder misses wide open throws and throws to receivers who are not wide open. Recipe for disaster. I would say that other than the SF game our winning games had little to do his passing. Leslie’s lack of an ability to pull the trigger will be his undoing. There is a point where patience looks like uncertainty. We don’t want a coach who is uncertain.

  103. By Wild Viking on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Another thing. We need to do it soon. We don’t want to turn AP into the modern day Barry Sanders. Any other QB would kill to have AP. With Ponder he is wasted.

  104. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Anyone going to the game this Sunday, chant Joe Webb for me. Thank You.

  105. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Peterson is no Barry Sanders. He will not quit.

  106. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    ok, So I am about to stoop really low, but I can’t take it anymore…

    How Bout this.. a straight up trade to Seattle, Ponder for Tjack… at least he can throw the ball down field, maybe not accuratly but at least it would be far enough

  107. By vikesfan5.0 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Webb sucks too!! MBT!!!

  108. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    it’s going to be tough finding a good qb in free agency

  109. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    TJack plays for the Bills lol

  110. By autobon7 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Thank you vikesince69 for maning up. I respect that you came on and said hey….I used to support Ponder but no more. Maybe the CS can follow vikesince69 and do the right thing. Thanks again vikesince69 ….I got your back.

  111. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder for Tebow!

  112. By Mike B. on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @VAVikingsFan you just said where the problem lies. I am staying optimistic for now, and cheer for the team as I know I can’t change what the Vikings Org. does. I think you anger should be directed to the decision makers and not the players. Ponder is doing the best he can with what he has. If he isn’t doing enough or well enough complain to the person that keeps putting him in the game. I look at Ponder I see a guy that wants to play well and is a fighter. He may not have the tools to be better, but I am not in position to make decisons to bench him. I just cheer for the team and hope they get better.

  113. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply


  114. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Tebow is a upgade, great idea!

  115. By autobon7 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I’m with ya By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Anyone going to the game this Sunday, chant Joe Webb for me. Thank You.

    Count me in as well. Webb for rest of season.

  116. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    upgrade. but will the jets fall for it? lol

  117. By autobon7 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply


  118. By autobon7 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    We need the Webb Slinger

  119. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t care where tjack went… all i know is though Tjack sucks he is WAAAYYY better than Ponder

  120. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Lets not think about what will happen after the season. Lets think about what WE can do right NOW. At this Sunday’s game, everyone chant JOE WEBB!

    I do not care if Webb is our QB of the future or not. There has to be a change at the QB position and Joe Webb is next in line on the depth chart

  121. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    every time Ponder steps on the field, start booooing

  122. By autobon7 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply


  123. By vikesfan5.0 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Webb sucks just as bad as Ponder!! Put our rookie QB in and lets see what hes got! I do like the Tebow idea tho. kind of

  124. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Right on autobon7!

    Take the 7 out of you name its making me cringe for some reason lol.

  125. By realviking on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @ Ponder aka

    Mike B don’t get it look at history when players throw the franchise qb or anyone management or coaches like that player becomes the problem.
    Do you really think our players wanted Ponder out their our wanted t.jack, mcnabb, troy williamson and plenty more trash players that coaches and management refused to bench.

    I don’t fallow the coaches decision if I believe he’s leading us down the wrong path two years from now when were back searching for a franchise quarterback Mike B will realize that he’s two years older going through the same process again.

  126. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Your Right Mike B… Ponder is doing the ebst he can… See what it got us??? no where cause he S-U-C-K-S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You can stay optomistic all you want… It isin’t going to make this team or this QB any good. If it takes you longer to realize thats fine… but trust me.. you will realize that Ponder is a back up at best…. MAYBE

  127. By autobon7 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Joe Webb is a humble patient guy that deserves a start (rest of year IMHO). He is a natural leader who brings a spark to the field. We don’t have that at all with Ponder.

  128. By Mike B. on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Joe Webb will still lose you the game. Change for the sake of change is no change at all. Give Frazier and Ponder the rest of the year. It’s the right thing to do.

  129. By wacky on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply


  130. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @wacky you mean Frazier?

  131. By vikesfan5.0 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    MBT has a huge arm!!

  132. By autobon7 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    How can vikesfan5.0 sat that Webb sucks like Ponder? Has he had all the starts that Ponder has to prove your statement? He has not gotten a fair shake yet. He deserves it.

  133. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Before the game they were showing Webb pumping up the defense. What was Ponder doing texting his GF?

  134. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    i agree, i know the game inside and out and i also played the game many years at a high level. if they don’t let Ponder go this season, it will be a T-jack story all over again

  135. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    AD is getting older. we have to win the ring soon! no more time to waste on Ponder!

  136. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    You cant judge AD on the same scale as an LT or Steven Jackson. AD will be here for a while. He will not quit.

  137. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    i usually don’t blog, but when i stongly feel the coaching staff is wrong, i will continue until a change is made

  138. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    maybe not, but he will lose a step at 29 years old

  139. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Remember what the doctor said? Almost no wear and tear on his knee. He couldnt believe he was looking at the knee of an NFL running back.

  140. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    right on that, he takes great care of himself, the Vikings are very lucky

  141. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    He will lose a step and will still be the best RB in the league. But this is not about him. This is about how the Dirty Pond should not be playing this Sunday.

  142. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    the Vikings are going to have to deal with New England to get a qb, they are always looking for trades and draft picks

  143. By realviking on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Guys i hope you don’t forget AP is only getting older and we all know at what age running backs start to lose a step and I’m sure he knows to. AP will be 30 in 2015 do you really think a guy who speaks about winning championships will stay a Viking with the direction were headed now.

    Theirs plenty of teams who would be more then happy to take him from us when he gets fed up. Harvin might not even sign with us after his contract. The way things look right now pretty soon were gonna be every teams door mat were gonna be in the lions position when they sucked for years.

  144. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Play Joe Webb, increase his value, then trade him. We could probably get more for Webb right now than we can for the Pond.

  145. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    yep, Webb will get more trade value. he is considered one of the best bak ups in the league

  146. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I refuse to finish his last name.

  147. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    we would have to cut Ponder, someone may give us a 5th rounder for him

  148. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    or use him as 3rd string until his contract is up

  149. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    If i could I would buy everyone who is going to the game Joe Webb Jerseys. Wouldn’t that be a sight.

  150. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    feel bad about wasting such a high draft pick for Ponder, Frazier wanted him i believe

  151. By northwoodsv2 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Can’t he just be our Franchise backup?

  152. By Purple08 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    He is considered one of the best back ups in the league? Where did you get that info meathead? Whatever.

  153. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    yeah, that would be cool. have to make Ponder feel unwanted, because he is

  154. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I remember I never heard of the guy until that draft.

  155. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Fox news had a story about it too.

  156. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    remember the reaction on draft day when they said his name? everyone was stunned

  157. By Beloud on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    If Frazier wants to stick with Ponder in total disregard for the rest of the team, throw him out on his head with Ponder in tow for the betterment of the team. It might just soften up his noggin so he’s ready for his next job.

  158. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Doesnt Pond’s GF work for Fox news?

  159. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I remember my jaw dropped to the ground just as it did yesterday after watching Pond attempt to throw a football.

  160. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    yes she does. Steve Mariucci has speechless after they called Ponders name

  161. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    he had his mouth open, but no words were coming out

  162. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    gotta go, see ya later

  163. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Be safe

  164. By realviking on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Why should we give Ponder and Frazier the rest of the season its bad enough they list our playoff hopes I for one will not support them, I been a Vikings fan for to long to not know what them finishing the season could mean.

    If ponder goes out and have a lucky game the Org will say I told you he’s good then we’ll have to go through this again next year. We all wanted him on the bench before the lions game but he was given a chance, went out and had an ok game and Frazier praised him only to have our season thrown away.

    We’re not making it to the playoffs the best thing to do is try to get a good pick and not make the same mistake that we made last season even though i like Kalil

  165. By vikesfan5.0 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Let him play the rest of the year hopefully we’ll get a high draft pick out of it!

  166. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @ realviking

    It dosen’t matter if AD wants to go and play somwhere else or not. He is under Contract with us till the end of his career. If the team doesn’t want to trade him, then he wont be traded… It’s just that simple. This team will NEVER give up AP for anything. Not going to happen. If they did I would have to question my loyalties…

    As long as AP is under Contract with the vikings he will retire a viking… He ahs no choice in the matter. Thats why we franchised him at 100K

  167. By realviking on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I remember everyone being shocked about the selection that was the last person they expected.
    I didn’t even like the guy in college, outer good quarterback at least have one good receiver that makes the NFL Ponder had none.

    I can’t believe they selected him I wanted Mallet. Now I ask myself why exactly did Spielman not wait for mallet instead of reaching. After all he did draft two receivers that Mallet made successful and he did go to games where Mallet let it rip. Ponder is the mistake that he’s scared to admit, just like Chad Henne it might end up costing him his job.

  168. By Parkway on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    In regards to Sanchez getting benched, there was a good quote on sportscenter that Rex Ryan “owes it to the franchise and fans to put the best players out there that give them the best chance to win the game”

    Clearly this isn’t Ponder. It hasn’t been Ponder the whole year. Clearly he isn’t anywhere near a starting QB. Clearly Webb gives us a better chance to win right now, whether or not he could ever be a starting QB remains to be seen. If they want to develop Ponder, don’t do it at the cost of the other 52 guys on the roster. (Though at this point it’s clear he cannot be developed, he has only regressed in his 22 starts)

  169. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    23 starts…..

  170. By Parkway on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

  171. By realviking on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply


    As much as I would love for AP to finish his career with us I have my doubts now. After the Payton Manning situation I realized that nobody is untouchable. If a player gets to the punt where he doesn’t want to play for a team anymore they will force their way out.
    He can easily become a cancer on the team I’ve seen this happen in the NFL plenty of times.
    The man is a winner he gives it his all in every game I’m sure it cruises his mind that if he was playing with Brady or Manning they would be the MJ bulls of the NFL.

  172. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @ realviking.. I hear what your saying and understand.. But I just don’t think that any of what you said, is in AP’s charcter as a person. Outside of being the best RB to ever hit the field. He’s actually a great person off the field. Very respectable. I also believe that there is something to be said about knowing that you are the reason the team wins. A sense of pride to know that without you they are nothing. I think that brings out the best in AP. If he gets fed up with anything, I still don’t think he would leave. he would just push harder for the win

  173. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    He is just not the type of guy to purposly become cancer for a team… Thats just not who he is. He is a better person than that…

  174. By autobon7 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply


  175. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Guess what happened in the game where Sanchez got bench???????? Oh thats right….. THEY WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Hey Fraizer….. TAKE THE HINT DUDE!!!!!!!!!!! Otherwise I will happily see you out the door as well.

  176. By autobon7 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Replace the POO SLINGER with the WEBB SLINGER

  177. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

  178. By realviking on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    And this is exactly why I’ve never been a fan of Frazier not as a DC or head coach.

    Vikings fans gave him to much credit as a coordinator. He came to a clean kitchen.

    Mike Tomlin was the corridor before Frazier we had the best run stop defense and a good over all defense.

    Tomlin gets a HC job, Frazier comes to a clean kitchen same players same ranking and everyone crowns Frazier and forget we were number one before gee got here.

    Remember the Bengals How much points Palmer and Johnson had to score because their defense couldn’t stop a nose bleed. Well that was Frazier who was coaching the D.

    Remember Madiu Williams who was out of position and kept costing us games. Well he played in that Bengals secondary for Frazier, ever wonder why we paid him so much for nothing.

    Remember how much Points Manning had to put up because the defense was terrible. That was Frazier coaching that defense.

    Colts D had one ok game and Vikings jumped on the Frazier bandwagon. If he was so good why didn’t the Bengals, eagles, colts keep him.

    Why did it take us to hire him as a head coach when every other team rejected him even the Colts after Dungy retired.

    This guy is not a winner look at who’s on his staff Singletary the fact that they’re friends means we have to pay Singletary for doing nothing.

  179. By David P on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I hope the Ponder selection costs all the vikings staff their jobs. Clean the slate and start over. THIS TEAM IS A JOKE.

  180. By viking181164 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    good point realviking..this coaching staff gets out coached week after week..only reason were better is because of peterson making us look good…the problem is this is a winiing season for them at 6-6 now already better then last years record…everyone stays no change of the qb and the fans suffer watching this with no say in the matter..thats the frustrating part…

  181. By Jennifer on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Every time Ponder throws a pass, an angel dies.

    Can we please start Joe Webb now?

  182. By realviking on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Viking181164 that’s what hurts me the most about our fan base now days they are ok with our direction they say we improved but who can’t improve from 3 wins.
    If we had real coaches we would’ve finished last season above .500 we were leading by a big margin in most of the games we lost. Some fans forgot that it was our coaches failing to run the ball when we were up to milk the clock and giving McNabb to many chances that killed our season.

    6 and 6 is bad because we had a easy schedule this year. Take out the 2 games against the Packers and Bears, the game against the 49ers, and the game coming up against the Texans we were favored to win the others and split the Detroit games.

  183. By viking181164 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    it aint happening jennifer..get used to this..we have a stubborn head coach..and a lousy one too

  184. By nolan wiltz on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I have been a viking fan for forty five years I watch every game on sunday ticket every week,Our Q.B. play is a major problem.Our WRs. other then harvin is the worst in the NFL all rejects from other teams.Our O.L. in past protection up the middle is not good at all.The long pass to A.P. he never got to plant his feet and make the throw because he had a man in his face.We can point fingers at a lot of players and they deserve it but most of these problems are on the coaches they brought these players in .Has anyone took the time to look at frasier on the sideline during a game if the game is going south and we are playing like garbage it is like he is lost.The man is not a head coach.

  185. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Prediction…Vikings ~ Bear game….

    Vikings win by 10+ points…Vikings 28…Bears 17…

    Ponder and AP and the boys will crush the Bears !!!…

    My gut feeling is Harvin everything humanly possible (and then some) to come back this week also…

    This team will be ready this Sunday !!!…

    And will DOMINATE Cutler and the Bears !!!…

  186. By marcotheviking on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    It’s too bad the Vikings don’t have a quarterback to compliment Adrien Peterson.

  187. By viking181164 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @ ot kalil the vikes are about 7-9 players away from making the next step..starting with a qb..the problem is our coaching staff is weak..same plays from blitz packages esp on 3rd and long from the defense..its like watching the same game week after week..with a running game like ours we should be 10-2 right now..

  188. By PurplHaze on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier … Spielman … Wake up and smell the LUTEFISK!!!


  189. By realviking on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Their talking about the game on kfan looks like everyone thinks Ponder is what’s holding this team back. They said Sanchez and Ponder are in the same class they would take any qb right now over Ponder.

  190. By TurnTheTide on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Lifetime Viking Fan with so much frustration with our Qb & Wide Receivers. I said this a few weeks ago and I’ll say it again Ponder needs to step aside and allow Joe Webb to take over. Leslie Frazier, PLEASE, PLEASE show some emotion on the sideline. Coach you have to stop with the same excuses in your press conferences it does not work, all your “learning from this” should have been taught before the season started. Leslie need to be held accountable for this mess, he needs to fix it!

  191. By Parkway on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    It’s nice to be optimistic OTK but you’re bordering delusional

  192. By LarryO on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    The dagger did not come when Green Bay QB Aaron Rodgers led an 11-minute scoring drive to open the 4th quarter. The dagger came when Ponder threw his second redzone interception of the day. I am tired of all of the excuses for Ponder’s poor performances. His accuracy is a major problem. I do not believe you can teach accuracy. The Vikings need to find a new quarterback. Web is not the answer.

  193. By Rudso on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I wonder if Andy Reid would work well in Minnesota. Our passing attack needs some major changes. I’m a Ponder supporter but even I think he could use a game or two on the bench to get some perspective or motivation.

    We’re still in the hunt for playoffs but we won’t if we lose this next game. If we can’t take care of the Bears at home this week it’s probably safe to say we are out.

    I know Frazier said he’s rolling with Ponder and he has to learn from his mistakes but Frazier is wasting an incredible season from Adrian Peterson. I know Ponder is starting on Sunday but if by half time Ponder isn’t helping win the game than Joe Webb needs a shot.

    On another note, there are no excuses for the amount of penalties the Vikings defense got in this game. We already have to fight the “12 man aka Packer lovin refs”, they don’t need anymore help than they already get.

    Good job Harrison Smith. You let Rodgers know that that s h i t ain’t going to fly anymore!

  194. By viking181164 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    we can only hope..and this is mean that ponder gets hurt..cause frazier aint making any move at that position…thus his job will be on the line after the season..if it isnt were in deep doo doo for the next season..

  195. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Its “gut check time” for the Vikings !!!…

    This team might lack experience in many areas…But it doesn’t lack FIRE !!!…

    Look for the Vikings to PROTECT THEIR HOUSE this Sunday !!!…

    Cutler and the Bears….


    Hope you don’t enjoy your stay !!!!…

  196. By PurplHaze on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply



  197. By Parkway on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Actually fire is one thing they are sorely lacking in

  198. By lance on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    how can wobs write mistakes by a few people? Only one person! made significant mistakes to cost this game! who you trying to BS?

  199. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t think that will be the case this Sunday though Parkway….

    I expect this team to rally and come together…And it starts this Sunday !!!…

  200. By Tomcat on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Why are people bashing on Spielman? He did sign Carlson and Simpson, but we had our best draft in years. You can bet he will evaluate players and coaches after the season and make some changes.

  201. By Parkway on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier is such a joke of a coach, just listened to his presser today. If he really believes the things he says, he shouldn’t ever coach again in this league.

    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results

    Have the vikings changed anything significant in their schemes or personnel to try to win games? No

    Can you tell me ONE good thing Ponder did yesterday that Frazier thinks he did?

    Was it the fumble in the red zone? Or the 2 INTs in the red zone? Was it the 20 yard under thrown “deep ball” to Peterson? Was it the throw into quad coverage in the endzone that he got lucky the LB wasn’t looking? Was it the 3 bad 5 yard throws that Rudolph had to make good/great catches just to grab it?

    Give me a break.

  202. By lance on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Timcat your right. It’s not spielmans fault. I do however dislike carlson but im not yet ready to give up on simpson. I still think his athleticism with a better QB would make him as good as he was in cincy. look at his first few games? he had a couple good catches and when the ball was thrown welll… he only missed when they flagged pass interference.

  203. By purplehaze1 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Cutlass gets PO’ed in the Bears game waiting for the play to come in…#7 throws two major game destroying INTS in the redzone and he’s on the sideline grinning from ear to ear…yeah he definitely will bring the Vikes some hardware…GO VIKES!!!

  204. By lance on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    tomcat sorry!

  205. By BlueBird7 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    What makes anybody think that the Vikings are going to just rollover the Bears?

    Or bash the Rams? Or trounce the Texans? Play Ponder! hahahaheeheeho.

    Not this year…Some of you are in constant Dreamland. Rams beat 9ers. So did we. Does that make us better then the Rams? Just a dead heat I say.

    For bragging rights at the bottom of the heap. Ponder will get us there.

  206. By Tomcat on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I am with OTKal on this–Vikings will pound the Bears.

  207. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply


    Bears are going down Sunday…

  208. By Parkway on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Unlike Frazier I actually want what is best for the team.

    What is best for the team at this point will be to lose out to acquire the best draft pick available. For Ponder to play as terrible as he has and is which should subsequently get all of our coaching staff fired and eliminate Ponder as the starting QB.

    We have too much talent in AD and Harvin ALONE to let it go to waste with such a pathetic staff and QB.

  209. By BlueBird7 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Sure hope you guys are right, but where have I heard this before?

  210. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply


    Did I say we would win in Bear country or Lambeau ???…No..

    I said, I expect Ponder to struggle…And refs would throw flags the Packers way…..Was I wrong ???…

    This weekend I say…The Vikings take down the Bears !!!…

  211. By Tomcat on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Call me crazy, but I`m not giving up. There is still a chance to win out in spite of Ponder. I know, I know…

  212. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply


    What really stinks…The Vikings could have won either of those games with the Bears and Packers…

    If the receivers could have caught some pass plays in that Bears game and AP didn’t fumble…We could have easily won that game…

    The Packer game fell on Ponders shoulders…Ponder lost that one…Even this Ponder supporter will admit that…

  213. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I was listening to KFAN just a little bit ago and they had an interview on thier don’t know who the guy was talking about it. but I assume some kind of coach.

    They actually said that Ponder doesn’t understand to lead the reciever.. They also said that he is having a hard time decerning where the reciever is and where the receiver is going to be. And that is why he can’t hit a receiver… BECAUSE HE DOSEN’T UNDERSTAND HOW TO PLAY QB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Those are the exact things you need to know how to do, to even be called a decent QB and you Don’t??? WTF??????

    So we, as fans, were lied to last year when we were told that Ponder is the MOST NFL ready QB in the draft. Clearly if you don’t understand how to lead a receiver, then that is not the case. How cruddy of a feeling is that, to be lied to by the team you have stood behind for years and years, through good and bad. Don’t you think it’s time for them to fix that. CLEARLY he is not NFL ready at all. They need to rectify their mistake and fast if they expect fans to continue to go to batt for them.

    That thought, of not knowing how to lead a receiver or your “franchise” QB not knowing is absolutely madening!!!!!!!!

  214. By vikingfanforlife on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Some Beastly news Mike W. .

  215. By Al Brown on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Coach Fraizer, you of ALL people should know what happens to a head coach who BLINDLY promotes a sorry QB!!!!!!!!!!!!! That’s how you got this job!!!!!!!!! Wake The F^@k Up!!!!

  216. By vikingfanforlife on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder would have to win every game we have left to sway my opinion of him.

  217. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    if we play anything like we have been playing over the last few games… the bears will crush us on Sunday. Personally I don’t even want to win. I would rather lose and get a good draft choice, get the coaching staff out and the QB sat for good.

    Those are the things that will help this team for the better. Winning will do nothing, but delay the inevadable. This coaching staff can’t make good decions off the field for the team and Ponder can’t make good ones on the field… GET RID OF ALL OF THEM!!!!!!! Start over and then you can call next year a rebuilding year if you want.

  218. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @ vikingsfanforlife

    Ponder would have to win everygame in rediculous convincing fashion for my opinion to be swayed. Like he would have to get a 158.3 ever game with 4 TDs and no INTs for the rest of the year… oh yeah, did I mention that he has to do that every game.

    HAHA… what I said above is the joke of the day!!!

  219. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I am not a fan of Wobbles articles– Peterson dominates BUT
    Am I to feel better with this headline? It makes me feel worse.

  220. By realviking on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I won’t be at the game Sunday but i hope the fans that goes let it be heard that they don’t want Ponder out their I wanna hear some boos and we want Webb or MBT. Don’t forget we got Childress out of hear by booing him at the Packers game I was their. The Wilfs saw how angry we were so he did something about it, please guys Mr. Wilf is the only person who can get us out of this misery so lets site him how we feel about Ponder starting.

    It was said that Ponder was Spielmans hand picked quarterback so his name is tied to Ponder that means he’ll let Ponder stink it up for three seasons just so he won’t look like he made a mistake. We can put an end to this.

  221. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    What is most frustrating is we were hardly blown out– much much better than last year’s performance at Lambeau when we were whooped. Just an average QB with solid skills and one decent WR– and we would have easily won– maybe by two TDs.

  222. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Last night after the Sunday night game I watched the local news– which I rarely do, but the TV was on—- well, on Vikings Extra, one of the annoucers who likes to Ponder— said this— I have been a Chr.sitian Ponder apologist all along, but I am done.

  223. By vikingfanforlife on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Hard to start thinking draft picks, if we had the quarterback position shored up, other much needed position’s could be filled. But it is what it is. If they thought Joe could get it done, Ponder would have never been drafted. So now what?

  224. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I think Sunday could get real ugly– Ponder may self-destruct if the boos go out of control. They may have to carry Ponder out on a stretcher for a bruised ego.

  225. By BlueBird7 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    If this, if that……………If we lose to the Bears again, how mant “IFs” Will there be?

  226. By BlueBird7 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    How many?

  227. By Parkway on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @musky: That is what I have been saying about Ponder too, good QBs “throw their receiver open”. He also does not use the pump fake or eye manipulation to move safeties to free up his WR either.

  228. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @ now what? I think were effed for at least another year. The Free agent QB class is not good. Unless magically Vick decides he wants to play like a champ again.. or come here to do so.

    The draft class for QBs is also bad. SO we will stink it up next year and then draft a QB for the 2014 season. Until then I have lost all faith. ‘

    I have no fiath in our HC
    I have no faith in our OC
    I have no faith in our DC
    I have no faith in our OLC
    I have no faith in our DBC
    Only coach worthy of faith is our Special teams coach. FIRE THE REST OF THEM!!!!!

    I have no faith in our OL
    I have no faith in our WR corp (excluding Harvin)
    I ESPECIALLY have no faith in our QB

    ONly person I have faith in is ALL DAY!!!!!!!!! because he is THE BEST RB TO EVER HIT THE FIELD!!!!!!!!!! BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  229. By Haystack Calhoun on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder sucks that’s y Percy ain’t trying to come back.

  230. By realviking on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Jimmy Clauson was considered the most NFL ready quarterback, panthers spent a 2nd round pick on him they realized the made a mistake and where’s Clauson now. Ponder was never considered a 1st round pick never was considered as a franchise qb, just the best game manager to come out a kid who is smart because of the MBA. We’ve seen that this guy is not what the Vikings think he is but yet they choose to throw the season away all because of him.

  231. By viking181164 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    nice to see indy lose a hallof famer qb…and look they get another one..we have ponder omg

  232. By Haystack Calhoun on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder lost the dam game simple as that he ain’t $hit they know it Percy,AP and all of them.We should have won that game.At least with Webb a little more talent on the field.

  233. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    We should have just kicked POnder off the field and let AP run the wildcat ALL DAY! I bet we would have won…

  234. By Haystack Calhoun on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    All the vikings are doing is phucking off AP and Percy but Percy ain’t having it I wouldn’t want to play either.And they act like they cant run the two headed monster with Gerhart and AP.

  235. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    It just seems funny…

    At the beginning of the season many predicted a solid season during rebuilding would be 6-10…Many predicted a 4-12 season..Some 5-11 and 6-10…Very few predicted a winning season…

    Musky were you not at 7-9 for this season ???…Ever optimistic Titus started at 10-6 then went to 11-5 after the first win…Fred was in at 8-8..

    I called a 9-7 season for the Vikes…Not backing off of that prediction either…I also said the Vikings would go at least 3-3 in our division…With the Vikings maybe winning both games against the Lions…I claimed the Vikings would split the season series with both the Packers and Bears….

    Do you think my prediction was made for either of those 2 wins against the Packer and Bears, were going to come from Soldier field or Lambeau ???…

    Vikings beat the Bears this Sunday…And beat the Packers the last game of the year….

    I don’t care if its for all the marbles in the division or not…Vikes beat the Packers…

  236. By BlueBird7 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply


    I’m with you on your entire comments!!!!!!That was a real show Adrian put on!!!!

    Ponder put one on also, but sure stunk up the place!!

  237. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @ OTK… I am still at 7 and 9.. Doesn’t mean I have any faith

  238. By Snoose on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Getting back to AP. I have to say,and I have been a football fan for quite awile, I think he could be the best running back of all time. Whether or not he breaks the all time rushing record or not, he is the most impressive back I have ever witnessed, bar none.

  239. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    The only thing that freaks me out about these up coming games. If we win, everyone is going to jump back on the Ponder wagon just so we can watch him throw games away next season… YAYY!!!

    I’d rather lose now and get on with our lives starting over. Ponder is not the anwser and never has been. We need a different QB and fast!!!

  240. By Haystack Calhoun on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I know i have to move on but i’m tired of having Minnesota back and they put this kind of product on the field.They have talent that a lot of teams don’t have.AP,Percy,Rudolph,Gerhart,Wright.

  241. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    If we win a bunch of games, Fraizer will stay, Ponder will stay, the rest of the caoching staff will stay…

    ALL OF THAT IS BAD BAD BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    They all need to go if this franchise ever plans on moving forward. Were buiding a new stadium for cryin out loud. This team needs a new look. I am fine with being out of contention until it gets built, but we need to start building now with real lumber and steel… Not legos and super blocks

  242. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    If we win..It will be against some of the best teams in football !!!…

    Or are the Bears,Packers, and Texans…Just chopped liver ???…

    We lost games the last 2 weeks against teams in the best division in football…The NFC north…

  243. By realviking on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I thought we would win every game before the bearers game except the 49ers game. I thought we might split with the lions and bears but we would beat the rams. We had a weak schedule none of those teams other then the the bears packers, lions Texans and 49ers had winning records last season after that we all picked in the to round of the draft.

  244. By Johnny on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings need to do 3 things to start winning….

    1. get rid of Frazier
    2. Get a Veteran QB at least until Ponder is better. I believe Ponder has potential but hes killing us right now
    3. Get New WR. Harvins health is too inconsistent and the other WR’s are no good.

  245. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @ OTK.. I get that the remaining games are al against good teams. but there is a few games this year that we should not have won. ARI and the first lions game to name some off the top of my head. POnder played like junk in both of those games and people praised him for it.

    It is possible for a team to win and the QB still play like junk enough to be benched. If we win, cool.. but I hope that if we do, Ponder and Fraizer are still out. They have already proven to use that they can;t get it done consistently.

    Its kinda like a normal game for ponder. Get nothing when the game matters. Then once we are down by 4 TDs ponder throws for 300+ yards to WIDE open WR. The end of the year is no different. Can’t produce anything until we are told the playoff hunt is over for us… now all of the sudden the team wants to win… WHAT A JOKE THAT IS!!!!

  246. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    As long as their is pressure to perfrom on time.. Ponder and the coaching staff has proved that they can’t get it done. Only time Ponder shines is when the opposing D is playing prevent and giving Ponder everything he wants underneath. Outside of that we have nothing. This coaching staff is more of a joke than the QB is… Thats saying a lot cause POnder is terrible

  247. By realviking on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I’m saying it now I want chucky or reid Frazier can go to where ever chilly is. I know chucky would’ve benched Ponder a long time ago he has a winning attitude and if he think you don’t have the same attitude then you can warm up the bench.

  248. By Pablo on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    super sad , pero aparte de todo no es que este triste es …. terrible que no se den cuenta que el coordinador ofensiva y lazy fraizar son un asco , ahi esta el error mientras sigan estas dos personas el equipo no podra funcionar mejor…

    PONDER TIENE FUTURO , todavia le tengo una ligera esperanza , pero le debemos de dar mas jugadas por aire , solo lo hacen cuando ya el partido lo tenemos perdido, por que no hacerlo desde antes …..




  249. By Parkway on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

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  251. By viking181164 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    dont you guys get it he cant see dow the field like other qbs he sucks no arm no vision..people are open..and when they are he misses them in the dirt

  252. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Viking181164 speaks the truth!

  253. By viking181164 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    omg ponder got into a car accidnet today…its ok though hes ok he’ll be starting next sunday

  254. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Also, regarding WRs, Frazier said today there were several times they broke open Sun. yet Ponder didn’t pull the trigger.


    That statement by Frazier…Is the beginning, of the end….This is from a coach the day before backed his QB ???…Foolish…

  255. By Parkway on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Let’s get Reid, look what he’s doing in Philly. He knows they are out of the playoffs and Vick has been struggling, so he does what is best for the team and starts Foles to see what they have in him the rest of the season.

  256. By mac on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    linebacker play aweful….. henderson a bust , brinkley doesn’t belong in on 3rd down passing plays , ponder is not comfortable with the offensive scheme after 12 games ….and can throw the ball accrate… how do u fix that …?? the pass catcher’s are a bust.. i still can’t figure out why they kept burton .. total bust … bring up summers from the pq and give him a chance …

  257. By mac on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    none of this teams in the north will make and impact in the playoff’s …. one an done all of them ….. nfc championship game … ny gaints go to altanta

  258. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings most likely will not win a game now….

    With that stupid WR statement…The locker room will divide…

    Frazier will lose hold of the team now…

  259. By viking181164 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    we can beat this thing to death….we need a new coaching staff with a new qb for starters..

  260. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @OTK I missed the comment about the WRs … What was said.

    Oh and mac… Ponder has started 22 games… not 12…. and still can’t throw to a receiver on the run, or hit them in stride, or accuratly throw the rock, or stand poise in the pocket

  261. By liito on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    1. If the team does not have the heart to win their remaining games, I suggest we play the other subperformers and underachievers. The quarterback position is an area of weakness, inconsistent, uninspiring, and what else is there to evaluate. We gotta, coulda, shoulda, woulda done this and that but we don’t see the effort on the field.
    2. I feel the fans will boo a lot and Christian will be rattled. He needs a mentor. At this time, I don’t see leadership at the quarterback position. Get some help please. If Peterson and Harvin were in another championship contending teams, they would shatter stadium attendance.

  262. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @OTK… Did fraizer ever have control…????? maybe at the begining of the year…

    What did Fraizer say about the WR???

  263. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply


    Parkway has it posted above…

    Frazier said Sunday the receivers were not getting any separation…And would look into getting some WR help…

    No today he reversed his stance…Check above…

  264. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    What little control Frazier had…Will soon be gone…

  265. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    *Now today

  266. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Oh, I thought there was a different comment about it… Thats why I asked.

    That comment isin’t really all that bad. In fact it should be a wake up point for the team. It’s too bad that we wasted this eyar with a wack QB. I would take almost any other QB over Ponder rite now, up to and including Tjack

  267. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe Titus and his conspiracy theory is correct…

    Maybe he has already lost Harvin ???…

  268. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t think Fraizer ever controled the locker room. I think the players let him think he controled the locker room because he was the coach. I’m sure the leaders on the team like Allen, Winfield and AP are the ones that really kept the guys together. Kind of like my boss at work. He is terrible, I could flick him off and tell him to burn in HE double hockey sticks.. And you know what would happen to me…. nothing.

    Same thing with Fraizer, he has control because that is what the players want him to think. I think its about time the players took their stance. And showed Fraizer what it takes to be a real leader. Show some emotion and passion and sit your Piece or Shnit QB! Show the rest of the team that you will go to bat for them and not just one players.

    Is it better to go to bat for 52 players or 1????

    Cause Fraizer chooses 1 week after week

  269. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Harvin being lost, would be unfortenate and bad sportsmanship but understandable from a frusteration standpoint.

  270. By viking181164 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    when you have to talk about ur coaching staff and lousy decidions they are making, you know you have problems…6-6 is a win year for this team with this staff..nothing changes unles the big guy opens his mouth..

  271. By Parkway on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Colts went 2-14 last year now they are 8-4. Do you think they are thinking “hey at least if we lose out 8-8 is a great year because of our record last year? No, that is a loser mentality. We have more overall talent than the colts do. Wanna know what the difference is????? You guessed it, coaching staff and QB.

  272. By viking181164 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    we may have the best running back in the league but that evens out with the worst qb

  273. By James on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier in his press conference said that ponder will still be his #1!!!! Zigy please fire this dumb coach! He stated that he will only consider changing ponder when he does something to cause them a win…les ponder has been doing that for the last five weeks!!! This coach is dumb. I hate the jets and Rex but Rex is smart. He made a switch and won the game!! How in the world did a dumb a s s get a coaching job!

    Fire Frazier Fire Frazier Fire Frazier Fire Frazier Fire Frazier Fire Frazier Fire Frazier Fire Frazier Fire Frazier Fire Frazier Fire Frazier Fire Frazier

  274. By viking181164 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    colts lucked out with first overall pick and you gueesed it they get a peach of a qb after losing the hall of fame guy they had for 14 years

  275. By Parkway on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe we really do need chip kelly. He wouldn’t be afraid to run Webb, Havin, and Peterson in the background in a no huddle every play and just beat the defense with speed and wear them down. I’d like that better than what we are doing right now.

  276. By viking181164 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    leslie fraser is no more then a secondary coach…he aint no head coach..were paying for this right now with his stubborness of not trying his next guy at qb…

  277. By liito on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Mr. Frazier,
    I know that you are under a lot of pressure. But, please do the right thing. What is the ‘right thing’? I think you’ll soon know during the game. Take courage.

  278. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @ James

    Those are really good points man. Only pull him when he costs us a game.. you mean like yesterday during the Packers game when he threw TWO redzone INTs… Yep fraizer is an idiot. he has 13 TDs and 11ints with four games to play. last year he had 13TDs and 13INTs. This eyar I garuntee that his Picks will be higher than his TDs. That shows regression and no game planning.

    FIRE MUSGRAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    FIRE FRAIZER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    BENCH/CUT/TRADE/RELEASE PONDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  279. By viking181164 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    our offense is predictable too..same plays i really cant believe other teams who are keying of pete cant stop him..goes to show how good he is…after that we have no creativity..again that goes with a lousy qb that cant see down the field and has a weak arm

  280. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Even if our QB could see down the field, he wouldn’t be able to put the ball on them. He can’t decern the difference between where the WR is and where the WR is going to be. Thus he should have never been drafted… Stupid Vikings staff. Friazer needs to grow a pair and start listening to everyone else that is not him… POnder can’t get it done and wont be able to. He lacks the physical and Mental capability to succeed in this league. GET HIM OFF THE FIELD

  281. By Parkway on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Beast Mode: [On] Off

  282. By Tim S on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    this is dumb. the two arguments that ppl have is that ponder doesnt have enough time to throw the ball and the receivers do not get open.. This week there were times he had over 6 seconds to throw, had a receiver downfield that was open,and could not get the ball to him. he would throw it way behind him or he would throw it over the receiver. no accuracy whatsoever. Even with the wheel streak route that adrian had..if he had any arm strength then he probably could of hit adrian and led him for a touchdown.

  283. By viking181164 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    the funny one was when ponder was out of the pocket around the 12 yard line and threw that interception..should have told frazier and all the fans he leaves him in and he does it again in the red zone..unreal..and still keeps him in after that one

  284. By JE on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    After watching JWebb highlights can anyone one this blog honestly say he cant play QB!! He should have been starting 5 weeks ago!! HE DESERVES ANOTHER CHANCE TO START!! ITS BEEN 2 YEARS!! HES ONLY 25,A YEAR OLDER THAN PONDER….WHY DO PEOPLE HAVE IT IN THERE HEADS THAT THIS GUY CANT PLAY??…WHY??? WHY???

  285. By Rudso on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    JE, that’s because it is what it is: HIGHLIGHTS. They don’t make videos of “LOWLIGHTS”. Sure Joe Webb can be explosive at times but he can also panic and start back peddling 20 yards and get sacked.

    Joe Webb is not a natural thrower and you can see it in his mechanics, that’s why. At this point in the season, we might as well put him in to run.

  286. By Mark on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Ponders play has declined each week since last year. WR run bad routes or are they just poorly designed. Musgrave has destroyed any chance of ponder being a good QB.

    I dont see all the games, do any of you ever see the oc or qb coach talking with ponder, reviewing game shots or any kind of communication.

  287. By Vlad19 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway, thanks for that great reminder of what a physical talent that Joe Webb is… the guy who sits while the guy who explodes games is STILL OUT ON THE FIELD.

  288. By Vlad19 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    You will not Frazier’s presser where he absolutely stated Ponder “Is not throwing the ball on the break..” and that he does indeed miss his open receivers, then goes on to explain what “open” means in the NFL…. It is what I have been saying for all of this guys performances. He doesn’t have it. He is afraid to release the ball.

    And if I see one more lob into space, I am going to puke.

    So yes, he does have open receivers he is NOT seeing and NOT delivering. Does this mean EVERY play??? Of course not, there are competitors on the field trying to sop us…. But Ponder does much better job of stopping us than does the defense we are combating.

  289. By Vlad19 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    And if Frazier can make his candid remarks about holding others accountable, while not holding Ponder, he is now been publicly called out on it…. at least he conceded the TRUTH of the question and commended the reporter for the “good question”… in his presser… and a wry grin.

    People, this is a statement – Ponder playing is NOT his decision is my bet. He made enough references to performance base for players starting… and yet he will NOT pull Ponder… defies his entire policy of belief….. you think the guy would so readily admit to this conflict of policy and fact in a presser, if not for making some subtle statement?

    I think he is putting this on the lap of “the decision-maker” who is insisting on “his guy”… and while I don;t know beyond shadow of a doubt, put 2 n 2 together. Ponder is on the field and most don;t want him there.

    Good luck Christian winning the fans back, but worse yet, winning your team back and the next football game.

  290. By caliviking on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    this is an easy fix….put webb in ….ponder could be good in time but i think we already got a good quarterback in webb and thats the way we should go..we have to think about next year too and it would be good to get webb some experience…we also dont have adrian petersons running like a beast forever

  291. By Rain irving on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Serously…Someone needs to explain to me how we can have the most dominate RB this game has ever seen, who constantly faces 8 and 9 in the box, and we cant execute play action pass. The secondary that Ponder faces each Sunday, in no way compares to the secondary defenses that Brees or Brady faces, yet Brees and Brady shred defenses. Our QB cant even complete a pass to a receiver. Im done blaming Jenkins, Aromashadu, and Simpson for not separating. Im all for smacking Musgrave, Frazier, and Ponder upside the head. Our offense makes zero sense. The presence of AP alone should make Ponder an all star, yet he struggles. Ive been in his camp. Im officially out of the camp. He’s an over thinker. Im scared. Ryan Mallett, come to Minnesota. Youre not scared to let it rip.

  292. By dig it on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    did anybody notice that when AD got a chance to go to the outside he did better than the usual guard an tackle up the gut runs?

  293. By Pablo on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    we can play with ponder and webb , and harvin an dpetterson in the same play !!!

    we need to have a lot play action if you have petterson!!!!!!! play action with petterson and then throw the ball to harvin !!!! is simple

    FIRE FRAIZER !!!!!!!

  294. By purplehaze1 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Les says one of the things #7 has to do is throw the testicle when receivers break out of their routes…Les that would involve A/ #7 actually seeing a receiver other than Kyle, or Percy and B/ zipping the testicle in there…his 5-10 yd zingers, are floaters for crying out loud! can someone call the DR. he needs new meds? GO VIKES!!!

  295. By rye on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    That game was extremely winnable. Ponder and the WR are to blame for the loss. I hate to say this because I was one of the ones who thought Ponder simply needed time to progress, but he has done nothing but decline. If the vikings coaching staff doesn’t make the switch to try and create a spark, wild card hopes are gone.

    With a running attack as lethal as this, the vikings offense would be good even with an average passing game. I agree with all those who want to give webb a shot. Vikings need a spark on offense. Ponder has shown nothing.

  296. By MuskyFever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Pablo, it’s not that simple,It sounds simple if you had a good or even decent QB. but because the QB throwing the ball to Harvin on the play action.. CAN’T ACCURATLY THROW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We would be and should be able to torch Dfenses with play action, but we have a QB with no arm strength and no accuracy. He dosen’t know how to lead a reciever on a pass. At this point I bet Audie Cole could throw the ball better than Ponder.

  297. By MuskyFever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply


    I totally agree with you… Not only was this game winnable, but the Packers pretty much walked into their locker room at the half… Took off their pants… Bent over and waited for the Vikings to give them the internal beating they deserved… lol

    But NOOOOOOOOOO!!!! We have Ponder so you can pretty much expect to throw picks in the redzone or endzone so when it came down to it… it was clearly Ponder who had his pants around his ankles and was bent ALL the way over

  298. By eggnog on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Coach Leslie you have work so hard to build this team ! I know you have put your money on coach Bill , yes we all know coach Bill went with QB Ponder why because you know his dad ? come – mon – man! what is this south east connection , well coach Bill I don’t even think of QB Ponder would ever be like your favorite QB Matt Ryan . I will help you first you will need to bench Ponder , he needs to have a break because he is a nice guy and he’s suck ! learn from the 49 ers bench ALEX SMITH , then they a won a game . By the way get a new QB like TIM TEBOW !!

  299. By eggnog on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Bench Ponder please , learn from da 49 ERS !

  300. By PAVikesFan30 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    2 words: TIM TEBOW

  301. By eggnog on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    MN vikings it’s shall be TEBOW TIME!!!

  302. By TC612 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    People act like Webb is such an abysmal passer.
    I’ve seen him make some great throws, ones that aren’t on highlight reels.
    If Ponder still has the potential to be good even though he sucks, who’s to say that Joe Webb can’t become a great QB with time.
    His mechanics aren’t really much worse than Ponder if you ask me.
    I’m pretty sure Webb can prematurely escape the pocket MUCH better than Ponder.
    But honestly, I know Joe Webb isn’t our franchise QB either.
    All I’m sayin is, while we been wastin time with Ponder, we coulda been wastin time with Webb. And probably have about two more wins this season.
    Could Webb have outperformed what Ponder did to the 49ers?
    Maybe not.
    But overall, throughout the season, he probably would have done better.
    I’ve tried my best to stick with Ponder but he shoulda been benched in the last game for sure.
    I’ve thought that in recent games before but this one was too much.

  303. By joe kapp on Dec 4, 2012 | Reply

    please please please never again Ponder

    please please please Joe Webb

    the game plan against the packers was great, everything the same Vikes would’ve won with Webb

  304. By Rick on Dec 4, 2012 | Reply

    I have said it before and i’ll say it again. This is a team built to run the football why did the O.C. stop running the ball in the second half? AGAIN!!!!!!! Musgrave has got to go. He couldn’t call his way out of a wet paper sack. If the vikings had an O.C. with half a brain the vikings would have at least 3 more wins this season already. Its no secret the QB isn’t good the receivers are worse and the pass blocking is worse yet. The run game has been awesome for the last 7 weeks so why should we give up on it at any point of any game Musgrave should be drug behind the team bus for 30 miles

  305. By Gilberator on Dec 4, 2012 | Reply

    How many 1st round QBs have completely sucked in the NFL. I would rather build a better team in other areas rather than the QB this offseason. Ponder made some AWFUL decisions yesterday. Idk if hes our QB but if we get crushed by Chicago at home this weekend, I think its time to let webb show us what he can/can’t do. Im sick of backing Ponder and getting results like last week in return. One thing I can say about him is that hes not a crybaby like Newton. Hes got good character and shows with time he can be a leader because leaders need the right attitude. Right now, his play is awful but I believe with an offseason he could be alot better next year. Regardless, if hes sucking now, play someone else. The jets did it. However, still think the 49ers made the wrong decision though with kapernickels.

  306. By vikeforever on Dec 4, 2012 | Reply

    I am still hoping that Ponder will develop, its makes it harder on a struggling QB when receivers don’t get open and we have a missing TE that we signed from Seattle. Is he still on the team ? Ponder needs to release the ball quicker and someone has to be open. But as much as I back Ponder, this next game is crucial for a wildcard spot, and if he struggles, a decision has to be made to bench him at least for the remaining game. Its a going to be a very interesting call next week against the bears, do you keep him in to save his confidence or to you do you put your team in a position to win and pull him. I think at that point, its a no brainer. I have confidence in Frazier to make that decision.

  307. By DrinkHeavy on Dec 4, 2012 | Reply

    I still think Ponder has ability, but at this point his confidence is completely shot. He needs to be benched just to get his head straight and hopefully he responds positively to the challenge. But he hasn’t done enough positive things to warrant another start against the Bears.

    It’s not like Musgrave’s playbook is all that complicated where Webb couldn’t start instead of Ponder for 1 game..hand off to AP and throw short when you have to – I think Webb can handle that. Heck, based on Ponder’s play these past weeks, could we do much worse? We might as well try to shake things up and try to stay in the hunt. If it doesn’t work, you’re no more worse off than you were before.

  308. By Pablo on Dec 4, 2012 | Reply

    simple i have a idea munsgrave !!!


    I like ponde, is great QB , only the need the big plays!!! deep plays , let it him to show his arm !!! what we cant lose ? the seaso is OVER , we need to win all the 4 game !!!!


  309. By Erik the Red on Dec 4, 2012 | Reply

    It just angers me seeing that disgrace to the number 7 step out there and lose us games. If we didn’t have Peterson to watch, I don’t know if I could handle it. That said, the Vikings are still very much in it, for at least a wild card spot, but coaching has to make the right call and bench Ponder. Give someone else a shot, I’d like to see Webb out there again. Heck, I don’t remember getting this frustrated over Donovan McNubb, seriously :P

  310. By James on Dec 4, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder sucks!!! Stop riding his n u t s!!!!! Btw Braylon Edwards is on the market….how bout getting him and seeing if he can fit in???

  311. By Bigfan1 on Dec 4, 2012 | Reply

    I wouldn’t doubt it if Ponder’s mind and concentration is affected by his relationship that’s all over the news. Relationships can upset the mind.

  312. By Jim on Dec 4, 2012 | Reply

    I think the GM and Leslie Frazier are not looking at the big picture and are being selfish by keeping ponder in there and not starting joe webb at QB,they do not have the best interest of this team in mind, bench ponder start Webb!!! end of subject.

  313. By Bigfan1 on Dec 4, 2012 | Reply

    I think aside from picking a few key players it seems the Vikings staff is ignoring updating roles by keeping players who don’t stack up very well compared to the rest of the players in the league at these positions. The Vikings have a few of the NFL’s best and a lot of poor players. Extremes in personnel. Their philosophy is best player in the draft, but they need to do some trading for better players in a lot of positions so the team can be consistently good.

  314. By Vike46 on Dec 4, 2012 | Reply

    Although I like Ponder, i feel that if we lose this weekend at home…. he needs to sit for the rest of the year. Frazier thinks he needs to stay in for reps and experience (growth of a rookie QB). I say put in someone else after this weeks loss and see what they can do. Maybe they need extra reps and playtime to be the future QB. Think about it.

  315. By barnabas1 on Dec 4, 2012 | Reply

    It is the play calling that has me ticked off. When you have a running back who can take it to the house on any given play, why not run him more? Ponder’s Int immediately after Adrian’s 48 yard run was disheartening. Get Adrian involved more in the passing game – don’t take him out on every 3rd down. That is a dead give away that the play is a pass. We need better play calling and a deep threat. Ponder needs to be reined in a bit and not left to his own devises. Let’s get a good receiver to compliment Percy. And stop having to throw only to the tight end when everyone knows that is where Ponder is looking first,

  316. By Mike on Dec 5, 2012 | Reply

    We are going to lose both AP and Harvin to free agency. These guys are not going to wait around until Frazier pulls his head out of his ass, and the team gets a real QB. Ponder wasnt that good at Fla.St., what made anybody think he would make it in the pros. Webb wont ever be a starter in the NFL. I would start him now, just so i wouldnt have to watch Ponder any more. We need Gruden. This coaching staff, with their decisions have flushed what could have been a decent season right down the toilet.

  317. By sleepy on Dec 5, 2012 | Reply

    I would rather see Webb run into the end zone than Ponder trying his inaccurate passing game

  318. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 5, 2012 | Reply

    Ponders only pass if can make, the bubblescreen, lol

  319. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 5, 2012 | Reply

    i feel sorry for the OC, he is limited to the playcalls he can make because Ponder just can’t make the throws

  320. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 5, 2012 | Reply

    Gruden already approached Tampa for a HC job

  321. By Robb on Dec 5, 2012 | Reply

    Those highlights of Webb are great as a reminder of how well he has played when given a chance. The media has lead us to believe he’s an inaccurate passer, he isn’t. I check his stats 61% his rookie year and 54% last year (same as Ponder)
    Doesn’t any one remember his first start at Philly, Monday night game. Webb was the 3rd string qb at the time, not even getting reps at practice. How does he perform GREAT and Vikes win. He has started 3 games and won 2 of them. He led a big 2nd half rally against the Lions in relief last year. He had us on the 1/2 yard line last play of the game and got faced masked, refs did not call it, costing Webb the credit he deserved for a great comeback. His last start against the Redskins last December he passed for 2 TD’s and ran for one and had a passer rating of 158. Did I mention he makes a lot of plays running too.
    Hey goofball who said they’re highlights for a reason, this is a guy with little actual playing time those are a lot of highlights. They weren’t picked out of a 10 year resume.
    Didn’t give Joe Webb any chance to develop but enable Ponder…give it up!!!!!

  322. By Percy harvin/Joe Webb Friend from Minnesota on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    Robb. Nice to see someone that speaks the truth!

  323. By peterk on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    I have been in Support of Ponder all along. If he continues to throw interceptions

    IN AND NEAR THE RED ZONE then Jo Webb needs to come in that area of the

    field and play and get us in the End Zone. Mr MUSGRAVE, if the Bears stack the

    line of Scrimmage we need to Implement the 5 YARD SHUTTLE PASS TO ADRIAN.


  324. By DrinkHeavy on Dec 6, 2012 | Reply

    With 6yds/pass att, Ponder has the lowest average of any QB with more than 300 attempts this season (there are 27 of them). With a passer rating of 79.4, that puts him at 22nd in that same group. Hard to see how you could stick with him with those kinds of numbers. He needs some time on the bench to gather himself and try to figure things out. Get with it Les!


  325. By eggnog on Dec 19, 2012 | Reply

    I hope Tim Tebow comes to the Vikings !!! TEBOW TEBOW

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