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Peterson’s Beastly, 82-Yard TD Run Aides Vikings To 14-10 Halftime Lead

Posted by Mike Wobschall on December 2, 2012 – 1:32 pm

Adrian Peterson has done it again. And it’s only halftime.

The best RB in the NFL took a handoff and ran off right tackle. It looked as if he’d be ushered out of bounds for a non-descript 8-yard gain. But Peterson didn’t stop running, and he wound up ripping off a career-best 82-yard TD run to give his team a 14-10 lead. Through 2 quarters, Peterson has 126 yards and the TD on 13 carries. It’s the 5th consecutive 100-yard outing for Peterson and the 7th of the season.

Green Bay got off to a fast start, taking an early 10-0 lead. But Christian Ponder found Kyle Rudolph for a TD late in the 1st quarter and then Peterson stunned the stadium with his incredible 82-yard jaunt to give the Vikings their 4-point lead at intermission.

Ponder is 5 of 8 for 36 yards with 1 TD on the day; he also has 4 carries for 14 yards. Packers QB Aaron Rodgers has been sharp, connecting on 18 of 23 passes already for 170 yards with 1 TD.


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851 Responses to “Peterson’s Beastly, 82-Yard TD Run Aides Vikings To 14-10 Halftime Lead”

  1. By sandiamond on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    lambeau field! Let’s start this puppy 2nd half….

    Barooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  2. By peterson28allday on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I dont know who will all agree with me but it is time for the vikings head guys to see Ponder is not a franchise guy…. seriously lets go time to get a qb to help us

  3. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder throws interception in the end zone…….had enough yet Frazier?

  4. By Greg on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Where is Jarius?….why aren’t we using him?

  5. By Vike46 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I dont understand why they insist on throwing in the redzone! WE ARE A RUNNING TEAM! WE HAVE ADRIAN PETERSON!!!!! I blame that interception on the coaching staff. Stupid.

  6. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    soooo terrible

  7. By sliver on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings don’t need Ponder to hand off to Peterson….get him out of there…and I don’t really care who comes in….Ponder will mess this whole game up…GET HIM OUT OF THERE!

  8. By Ponder the BUST on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    That interception was one of the worst I’ve ever seen in the NFL. Absolutely terrible!

  9. By Steve Kozak on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Dear Wilf owners/managers: The people and legislature voted to help build you a new stadium. Don’t you think you return the favor by getting one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, plus one or two more quality receivers. I’ve seen all the Vikings games this year and I firmly believe they could be 12 and 0 if you would spend some dollars and get quality young quarterbacks like the Redskina and the 49ers. You know the money would come back to you with a playoff like team. Somebody better wakeup soon. The season’s almost over!

  10. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    K they can’t stop Peterson…. has 178 yards…. Ponder has 30 yards and the worst interception ever….. and we decide to throw the ball?????

  11. By Saddy on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I can’t watch christian ponder, please give joe webb the ball, I would rather see him develop at this time.

    Pathetic, why does he run everytime the protection is good

    God I wish Brett Favre was here with this kind of protection.

  12. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Harrison to the rescue

  13. By Ponder the BUST on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Addition by subtraction. Get Ponder out of there. Put in Webb to hand the ball off. Just stop Ponder from sabotaging a possible huge win

  14. By Saddy on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Harrison smith is a beast.

  15. By SoCalVike on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Minnesota Petersons-14 Packers-13….can somebody else please step up and make some plays…?

  16. By Renee Shilling on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Did Joe Web ever pass for more than 58 yards a game???? I believe it is time to let Web show us what he can do. Lets face it ……he is faster than Vick , he can win an away game and He HAS COMPLETED A PASS! also, maybe Frazier can show some emotion…it may lght a fire under Ponder , if he is left to try to play football. I believe a Little Gritter play may do a better job!!!

  17. By Saddy on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Get joe webb in complete some pass, or anyone at this time

  18. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    If there is a single Ponder supporter after we lose this game they should be arrested or checked for a brain injury.

  19. By Jimmy F on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I’ve seen enough of Ponder. He is not the guy. How can u keep this guy in there and justify his poor play. Too many points left on the field. Sick of this bull.

  20. By mh on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I am absolutely convinced that this Vikings team could not complete a pass on a field against open space.

  21. By G Zeller on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Will somebody in the Vikings Organization, please tell me how much I can get paid to be a sub par QB – I think even I at 53 years old can pass for 36 yds

  22. By Meekay on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Agreed. Ponder has regressed. Bench him until he pulls it together. Webb is a better QB right now.

  23. By A.D.A.P on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    If they don’t bench ponder now, its time to change out all of them… The whole coaching staff needs to go!!!

    We had this game… This should had been a nice W

  24. By Canadian Vikes Fan on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I’m just about out of excuses at this point

  25. By xmasboy on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    You have to bench Ponder after this…

  26. By PackWhack on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry guys, your QB isn’t cutting it. Really missing some throws. Your coaches need to pull your QB otherwise we walk away with the W. Can’t blame the refs anymore and there is only so much one guy like AP can do. (God I wish we had AP!)

    PS. We are laughing at your offensive coordinator

  27. By VBVIKING on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    time to bench Ponder!!!!!PLEASE

  28. By Troutdaddy on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ok, it is official. Ponder is done. The guy couldn’t throw his way out of a paper bag. Are you kidding me? Throwing to Gearhart? Missing Peterson downfield? (Did I just say Peterson downfield???) Holy hanna…. If the Vikes win this game it is going to be a freaking miracle… Peterson is the man and I feel so bad that he has to carry the entire team- just to have Ponder fold like a flippin lawn chair. Frazier and Musgrave need to pull their heads out. I am done being nice…

  29. By Kevin on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Why is Ponder still Playing if you can even call what he does playing?

  30. By Renee Shilling on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    After this last interception—Does anyone else feel Ponder’s learning curve is over?? The Vikings would do better without a QB!!!

  31. By vikingfan8084 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    seriously, how much more of this can we take. Frazier needs to bench Ponder for the 4th qtr……….it’s all Adrian anyhow

  32. By chris quinn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    pLEASE SIT pONDER, WE HAVE NO CHANCE WITH HIM IN THE GAME. HE’S HORRIBLE!!! gIVE JOE WEBB A SHOT, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

  33. By larry on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    get ponder out try webb

  34. By MuskyFever on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    PONDER… IS…. TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    AD is a beast, if it wasn’t for him we would not be in this game at all. So happy hes a viking. Over 200 yrds already. But Ponder is 0 for the last 7 with two picks. This is rediculous!!! Get rid of Ponder hes terrible. He is under throwing too many b@lls, and making AWFUL decisions. If it wasn’t for those two picks we would and should be stomping the Fudge Packers!!!

  35. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder misses wide open Peterson, a wide open gerhardt, then another interception…..VIKINGS FANS SHOULD RUN PONDER OUT OF TOWN, AND FRAZIER ALSO FOR NOT REPLACING THE GUY. The rest of the team plays hard, it sickens me to see their efforts wasted.

  36. By jermaine on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    ponder is just messing it up

  37. By lance on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    please also put in sanford! raymond is ok but we are getting beat on the run game right now! we need sanford. Also, these throws are horrible! someone yesterday called me an idiot for thinking QB is not our problem clearly our recievers are doing things right! but these throws are HORRIBLE almost as bad as crosby’s kicks

  38. By Vikes Fan Section on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder must go.

  39. By SoCalVike on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Enough of these powder puff floaters,Ponder cannot drive the ball with any velocity…

  40. By Ponder the BUST on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Does Ponder even look at anyone but Rudolph. He just locks his eyes on 82 every play.

  41. By Steve Kozak on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    ATTENTION WILF & ALL COCHES! Don’t you think it’s time to give JOE WEBB a chance? He can’t be any worse than what we have seen all season from Ponder.

  42. By MuskyFever on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Get Ponder off the field!!!!!!!!!!!

  43. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Please GOD……..help us bench Ponder.

  44. By Ponder the BUST on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    The Jets benched Sanchez. Why is Ponder untouchable

  45. By jdude on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Can the coaches please pull their heads out of their back sides and bench ponder. You can’t win with Ponder passing the ball away to the defense. Please put Webb in.

  46. By MuskyFever on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I will say that on D H. Smith is standing out and having a good game. I really like him, Think he will be a star for many years to come!!! Gettin his jersey next for sure!

  47. By chris quinn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    THIS IS SO FRUSTRATING TO BE A VIKINGS FAN. THIS WILL BE THE THIRD GAME WE HAVE LOST BECAUSE OF HIM.

  48. By garrett1212 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I’ve supported ponder but he flat out sucks today. Two picks were horrible, missing open receivers, & can throw accurate. He’s the only reason we’re losing this game.

  49. By mh on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    How many times is that POS Jefferson going to get burned?

  50. By Shawn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder should be cut after right now … Im done.

    Parkway and ponder aka3,000,000,000 IQ …. YOU WIN !!!!

    I will not defend Ponder this week

  51. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier is worse than Childress in his hard headed approach in not replacing an abomable failure just because he was a 1st round draft pick.

  52. By VBVIKING on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    y CANT THE COACHES SEE ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE

  53. By Kevin on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    How much has the packers paid Ponder?

  54. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    i said AD would need over 200 rushing rards to win. i guess i was wrong. pull ponder!!!!!!!!!!!!

  55. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Vikingd defense is giving up now…..they realize that there is no chance now with Ponder still in the game.

  56. By Erik the Red on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I swear to Odin, if they don’t put Webb out after that trash play, someone needs to be sent to Valhalla

  57. By MuskyFever on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Even Sanchez has been to two Championships (though he may not have deserved it) and he got benched, Ponder needs to get out now! I can’t stand him!!

  58. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    We did it we got shawn! We’ll be down by 2 scores after this drive so we won’t even run AP and Ponder will get his usual garbage 100 yards or so from soft coverage (or maybe another 2 picks)

  59. By Erik the Red on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    @oldtimer,
    the defense isn’t giving up, it’s just tired out of its mind! Ponder keeps delivering the ball to GB, and they have to keep coming out onto the field with no motivation

  60. By A.D.A.P on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    They need to trade up to 1-3 #1 draft pick, so we can get a real QB !!!

  61. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Viking fans should start a petition to have Ponder replaced.

  62. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    why are they still playing Ponder? he flat out stinks up the joint

  63. By A.D.A.P on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Viking fans should start a petition to have the coaching staff replaced.

  64. By MuskyFever on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    AD needs 300 yrds and 2 more TDs for us to win this game, Since Ponder is not going to do anything. All we have is AD!!!!! I can’t believe were going to lose with how well AP is running, can’t even convert on play action.. Thats just rediculous!!! WE HAVE AD< WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU CAN'T CONVERT PLAY ACTION!!!! because we have a terrible QB.

  65. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Now i know why Musgrave has been calling the plays he’s called…..no faith in 3 and out Ponder.

  66. By Shawn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

  67. By Erik the Red on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    If the Vikings can stop this GB drive, and Ponder comes out on the field, someone is going to need to immediately retire

  68. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    i never seen a game with a runningback over 200 yards and losing

  69. By VBVIKING on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I been a Vikings fan all my life. seen all the bad decisions. Herschel trade really Time to suck it up Ponder is not an NFL qb Iff he gets back on the feild today O amy no longer bleed PURPLE

  70. By Meekay on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe we can trade for Alex Smith. At least he knows how to win.

  71. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Wobby —- canwe start a petition on this website?

  72. By TW VIKE on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Just dont bench Squander, leave him in G.B. He is PATHETIC. AP 210yds, Squander 36yds.

  73. By Brutis on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    What an absolute and complete disservice to Adrian Peterson and the rest of the Vikings teams and it’s fans to continue to play that sorry excuse for a QB. He is 3rd string material and nothing more. Can’t complete 1 pass to a WR against one of the worse secondaries in the league. What a joke.

  74. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    How can you be that stubborn that when your qb has been terrible all year…. has 30 yards p@ssing and 2 INTs in scoring position (one in the endzone) when your RB has over 200 yards you don’t bench him. Unbelievable.

  75. By Bigfan1 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Get Ponder out of there get a real qb, cmon man 36 yards passing 2 interceptions.

  76. By PackWhack on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Blown away why you don’t have your second string QB warming up. It’s actually kind of sad to see your coaches sticking with what’s not working. Can we just run the clock to zero? It’s inevitable what’s going to happen unless your coaches make a change

  77. By TW VIKE on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Let Adrian play QB

  78. By Jman on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Put Webb in and give em a double run threat. Instead of have Ponder in and give em a cr@p attack!

    PS: WEBB CAN THROW TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  79. By chris quinn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    ARE THERE ANY FREE AGENT QB’S AVAILABLE? LET’S TRADE FOR SANCHEZ, HE MIGHT BE BETTER IN MINNY WITH AP AD TO PLAYACTION TO.

  80. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    where is Shawn at, the little t urd

  81. By Erik the Red on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    **** this

  82. By PackWhack on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Nice defense. We’ll try to take time off the clock so this ends quickly for you. It’s the humane thing to do.

  83. By hairyman on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    frazier and ponder need to go!

  84. By TW VIKE on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Our head coach needs to do his JOB, bench Squander.

  85. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn already admitted defeat aka

  86. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Sticking with Ponder is an embarassment to the rest of the team and a travesty for the fans.

  87. By mh on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    How can 3rd and 12 be effortless for GB with no Oline????????????

  88. By sliver on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Thank you Vikings leadership for messing up this whole year, with a QB that should be at least the 3rd quarterback….you have a bunch of fans that can see it. Is it your pride, arrogance or stupidity….

  89. By TW VIKE on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Are we going to wait til we are 6-8 to put in Webb?

  90. By Erik the Red on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Because, while I hate to say this, they have a QB that can actually throw the ball

  91. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    mh….because the defense has given up

  92. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder needs 2 scores, lol

  93. By JR on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Why can’t we get a coach who make the right call on QB? You would have to be blind and stupid to think that Webb wouldn’t be better.

  94. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    who wanted Ponder anyway? i don’t think Spielman did

  95. By VBVIKING on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    so who will be playing qb now

  96. By express on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Season is over. ponder is a loser.

  97. By Erik the Red on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Drum roll guys! Moment of truth! Will he-who-should-never-play-a-starting-position come out on the field? Or may we all have something to look forward to in another QB coming out? Stay tuned to find out!

  98. By TW VIKE on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Sticking with Squander is football SUICIDE

  99. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    We should all be embarassed by Frazier for not giving the team a chance to win…..incomprehensible for an nfl coach.

  100. By vikingfanforlife on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    This one is on Ponder, why can’t we find a decent quarterback. Season is so over.

  101. By benjamin on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    SIT PONDER man he sucks thanks for costing the loss loser!!!!!! lets go JOE!!!!

  102. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn thinks Ponder is good

  103. By Erik the Red on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Please Joe Buck, you better be wrong. I did not just hear that scrub’s named mentioned next to Peterson’s

  104. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Got to be kidding me that they are putting him out there. Talk about pride/stubborn/effing idiots

  105. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    we have to pass to win-game over

  106. By dirty little secret on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is simply awful. Never liked the draft pick and it gets worse by the week. Bench Ponder, and put in Webb. We keep Webb because of his talent, but we never use him. I would sooner have Crosby as our kicker, than Ponder as our QB. WOW

  107. By TW VIKE on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    We owe it to the vets on this team to bench Squander for GOOD

  108. By hairyman on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder can’t score and the defense has given up

  109. By 61Vikings on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I feel sorry for AP!! Great RB on a scrub team with a pee wee league QB!!!! 36 yards passing and two picks!!! Strike three your outa here!!!!

  110. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder back out there!!!! are you kidding me? Is Ziggy watching these games??

  111. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    This effs up next year that we have to waste another first round pick on a QB. The only QB we could trade for is alex smith and we all know his ceiling (even though he would be a huge upgrade over Ponder at this point)

  112. By austin on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is complete ass, get this joke outta here

  113. By PackWhack on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I feel bad for Viking fans. Your coaches failed you. Look on the right side: will be able to get a mid first round draft position (pssst, get a Guard in the first round)

  114. By express on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    After he threw the Int. in the endzone. They showed him on the side line laughing. Pretty sad.

  115. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    cut Ponder now!!!!!!!!!!!

  116. By Erik the Red on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    “He has to throw it…. takes off and gets a gain of three”. and then a near interception, my Viking spirit is crying inside, what is this nonesense

  117. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    wow!!! 3 and 7 already!!!

  118. By Troutdaddy on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    @ aka… Ok, so I am not going to give you any guff any more about Ponder. The kid is done. He has had so many opportunities to be the hero today with so many openings and he chikes like a little 3-year-old girl with a jawbreaker/

    Frazier and Musgrave should be on notice after this game as well. if the leadership of this team can’t se tha Ponder gave this game completely away and won’t make a change in real time, then they are just as much the problem. Even the Jets benched Sanchez today… WAKE UP FRAZIER.

  119. By VBVIKING on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    WOW IM DONE……..

  120. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    too little, too late

  121. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    lucky floater to rudolh

  122. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Terrible garbage stats

  123. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    HAHAHAHAHAH FRAZIER GOING TO DISCUSS IF WE SHOULD GO OUT AND GET WRRRR HELP??????? ARE YOU KIDDINGGG??????????? HOW ABOUT A QB??? hOW ABOUT WR HELP 7 WEEKS AGO????

  124. By hairyman on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Get a quarterback before you get a reciever

  125. By Erik the Red on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Btw, thank you PackWhack for not bashing us like some of your counterparts have done in past weeks, we are already hard enough on this team, we don’t need someone extra trying to help

  126. By Jman on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PONDER MADE CONNECTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  127. By TW VIKE on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Hits a wide-out in garbage time

  128. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    FRAZIER IS THE WORST COACH ARE YOU KIDDING ME

  129. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    EVERYONE HERE BETTER REMEMBER HE HAD 30 YARDS 2 PICKS WHEN THIS GAME ACTUALLY STILL MATTERED

  130. By Erik the Red on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    And of course Walsh has to miss, game over

  131. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    it’s over. thanks Ponder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  132. By A.D.A.P on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Thank you Frazier for sucking so bad!!!

  133. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Typical Frazier…..blame it all on 5 or 6 receivers and not the qb?
    Assinine.

  134. By Jman on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    F PONDER!!!!!! YOU RUINED OUR SEASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  135. By hairyman on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Detroit game is much better

  136. By lancep1993 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Alright everyone do u see any wide recievers open i think not

  137. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    How could you possibly be so oblivious to the fact that we needed WR help when the season actually mattered? Now that we are out of the playoff hunt he is going to consider getting WR help? Not that it would have mattered with such a terrible QB

  138. By Fonder on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Anyone who thinks ponder is the future for this team is kidding themselves. He is not even a good back-up. He Sucks

  139. By Erik the Red on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    If Peterson wasn’t on this team, I would stop watching altogether for the rest of the year

  140. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    How can the Wilfs sit and watch this every week?

  141. By lance on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    notice though how when the ball was actually accurate simpson caught the ball no issue! im sick of the blame going onto recievers! I am loosing faith in the staff! are they watching the same game?

  142. By Spencer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder lost the game.

    Hes Garbage.

    Its just that simple.

  143. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    C’mon ZIGGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Get involved!!!!!!!!

  144. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Great point oldtimer, he’ll let the WR core take the blame and blame injuries before he admits how F*CKING TERRIBL PONDER IS

  145. By Erik the Red on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    And this folks is why you never buy a QB jersey until they’ve fully proven themselves

  146. By PackWhack on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I apologize, on behalf of other GB fans, for bashing. True, I was a d— at first but really I want all NFC North teams to be great, so that the divisional games are tough and close. You guys are real lose to getting back, and actually having a good season, but as an outside observer, your coaches have really let the fans down. The truth is, you could have won this game IF your coaches made the right adjustments. Live and learn. See you next game at MN.

  147. By TW VIKE on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Usually 210 yds by your running back = a victory, not in Viking land

  148. By 61Vikings on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    This Packers team was ripe for an upset!! We score a TD on that first drive in the third quarter, this would be a different game, but Ponder throws a horrible int. This kid is not the answer for the long haul so let’s bring somebody else in!!

  149. By Saddy on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder lost the game, 2 red zone interception, talk about killing our team!

  150. By Bigfan1 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Every $#$^^% week they talk about how they lost, pretty #$#$$%ing useless. Get rid of Ponder, get a new line, and new receivers, with the exception of a few players who play consistent from week to week like AP and Harvin, the Vikings squad have a lot of average players who it seems need the stars to align properly to win a game…If it wasn’t for the D the Packers would be burying this team today.

  151. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    i never seen a qb with only 28 yards passing

  152. By Meekay on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    WTF do we need a WR for? So Ponder can completely miss him, too?

  153. By Troutdaddy on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Could this get any worse? Walsh? Really? What a miserable game. Even when we were ahead you could smell the impending doom to come. I am not trying to be a downer here but this was absolutely pathetic. The commentators even S P E L L E D it out for the coaches today. I guess that I am going to light up the blog this week with chants of change… I know I am not going to be the only one. Like I said earlier- I am DONE being nice. Those glimmers of hope I have felt all season are now gone.

  154. By chon69 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I agree! It was said last year that Ponder along with several worthless receivers needed to be downgraded or replaced. Ponder will be a good back up for a while but not a starter. Every game that has a lot of pressure in it Ponder folds like a deck of cards and makes costly mistakes. This game (Vikings Vs. Packers) is on him and the receivers!

  155. By vikingfan8084 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    teams are always a reflection of the head coach and ours is timid and defensive minded. He has left the offense in the hands of a horrible offensive coordinator and a terrible QB.

  156. By VBVIKING on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder sinle handedly lost that game F the garbage atthe end GB gave that t o him at best he is an average college qb Y cant the owners and coaching stafff see that???

  157. By Erik the Red on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Nah Bigfan1, the line isn’t all that bad, sure there are parts that need replacements, but the real problem is our joke of a QB.

  158. By TW VIKE on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I pray Webb plays next week

  159. By T.allengovikes on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Did tark really endorse ponder? Feel bad for ap and def.

  160. By Ponder the BUST on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    @lancep1993 there have been plenty of open receivers. Dont listen to Aikmen, he’s a QB. He’s sticking up for a young QB by blaming the receivers.

  161. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ziggy needs to sit down with Frazier and Ponder….these two guys are embarrassing all the loyal viking fans….they deserve better than this.

  162. By borgis on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    WELL! somebody in charge on the minnesota vikings has to step up and admit they have major issue’s with the offense talent and approach to playing in the N F L

  163. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    More garbage yards for Ponder… great. That’s probably the coaches only plan right now, hurry try to pad his stats a little so we can quote them…

  164. By Mike E on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    sorry fellow vikings fans, this isnt all ponder. we are gonna have to live through another coaching staff change before we get better. they are the ones who decided to live with this crummy wr group.

  165. By Shawn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

  166. By bob ditzler on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    As banged up as green bay is, & this is the best the vikes can muster! I was wishing for ponder to replace mcnabb. now i see him making these idiotic plays. he’s lobbing the ball to receivers. just freakin terrible throws! defense on the feild way to long. no defense can handle that. inept coaching, and all we’ll hear is “we just couldn”t get the job done today. REALLY………………….! how can you beat the 49er’s & revert to this kind of stench1

  167. By TW VIKE on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Our defense leads the offense in time of possesion

  168. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Come on Frazier give Webb or BMT a chance….use common sense.

  169. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    HOME GAME NEXT WEEK VIKING FANS!!!!!

  170. By Erik the Red on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Why even think of putting Ponder out there when we could just snap the ball straight to AD and add in an extra lineman, ha

  171. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    embarrasment isn’t quite so bad if it isn’t against GB.

  172. By Erik the Red on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I’m too used to it by now to stay mad for long, maybe they will figure it out in time for next week.

  173. By Jman on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    SEASON OVER. :-(

  174. By NO WORRIES ! on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    ponder should have on a green bay uniform ….. he sucks !!!!! i don`t even want to watch anymore vike games until he is off of our team. and they want a new stadium ??? peterson is all we have ?? after the first ponder interception he sets on the sideline with a big smile !!! SICKNING !!!!!!

  175. By TW VIKE on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder SUCKS!!!! What part of that dont you understand? AP has 210 yds and your QB cant manage 100yds? Squander is NOT a NFL caliber QB, period!!!!! Weare not being fair to the veterans on this team.

  176. By JR on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder made GB look good. :-(

  177. By jim chasteen on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Please trade Adrian and the tight ends, possibly Allen as well. It’s unfair to them to have to play for such a worthless team. Cut them now so they can maybe sign on with someone with a fighting chance. This franchise will never do well with the coaching, the play book, the secondary, or the receivers – and especially the quarterback. We’ve dealt with the Vikings being a AAA ball club that gets players up to speed for other teams for decades – why stop now. Give our quality players (there’s only a few) to teams that give them a ring someday.

  178. By rmk800 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    imagine that ap out runs the passing game.

  179. By TW VIKE on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Admit you wasted a #1 pick and waive the POS

  180. By elvis on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Alright Spencer, I’m shifting towards your thoughts on Ponder.

  181. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier needs to be fired now so that we can get a head start on possible coaches…..and not wait until the good ones are signed by other teams.

  182. By TW VIKE on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    rmk-It would not be the first time this season

  183. By Tomcat on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    @#$#@*&%$#@

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  185. By Frederick Jones on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Troy Aikman: I didn’t see a whole lot there. (HOLDING ON THE PACKERS)

    Joe Buck: Yeah the Packers are winning, they might win the wild card.

    Troy Aikman: All you have to do to stop Peterson is to not allow him to go straight ahead. When he moves left or right you usually have him.

    Joe Buck: Rodgers is the greatest QB of all time.

    Aikman: No, actually ah was betta. But Rodgers is beating this team all by himself. He don’t need no blockas.

    Joe Buck: By the way here are the scores from about ten games you couldn’t care less about.

    NEVER HAS A TEAM BEEN MORE IGNORED IN NFL HISTORY. DO AIKMAN AND BUCK LIVE IN GREEN BAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  186. By jdude on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Whenever Webb got a shot to play in a regular season game he picked the other team apart. Whenever Ponder gets a shot he gives the other team the win even when Peterson gets 210 yards rushing yards. Be fair and give Webb a chance. If we don’t you might as well stop watching because the season will pretty much be over. =(

  187. By Ryan on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is a joke . It’s time to move on. No reason to play Peterson or harvin if ur not smart enough to sit ponder. You have the opportunity to change and u don’t. I’m almost read to stop watching you suck. I have an idea. START WEBB

  188. By Shawn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

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  189. By TW VIKE on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Well, one thing for sure, Adrian is NO DOUBT the BEST running back in football, hands down!!!

  190. By elvis on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Erik the Red, we’ve been hoping that for 6 weeks.

  191. By purplegoldman on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    We all saw this coming. it just gets worse from here. they won just enough games to blow the draft.

  192. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    the real don
    Your long post is rude and disrespectful to the people who scroll this site.
    Please stop it.

  193. By Spencer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    All I can do is shake my head

  194. By purplegoldman on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    1rst round pick QB.

  195. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    ZIGGY!!!!!
    HELP US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  196. By Tomcat on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    All year I have tried to believe in Ponder. No more. After his display today, I know I was dead wrong.

  197. By Spencer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Everson Griffen had a he|| of a game. He should start over Robison.

  198. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Has Ponder had his usual post game presser where he tells us he has to play better?

  199. By SmileyStar on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is horrible, been horrible…Coaching staff is just as bad cause Webb looked like a potential franchise QB, before they jumped up in the Draft to grab ponder. Coaching staff can’t bench Ponder, because if they do, they get benched.

  200. By purplegoldman on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I dont want to hear about the good players spielman drafted, they are young and inept. Ziggi needs to fire them all.

  201. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Any Ponder lovers left out there?

  202. By MLS on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Should have drafted Dalton when we had the chance. I believe that he was the best QB in that draft class.

  203. By jdude on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Bench ponder, start Webb!!!Bench ponder, start Webb!!!
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    Bench ponder, start Webb!!!Bench ponder, start Webb!!!

  204. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I bet Frazier “has to take a look at the tape”. Really? Pretty obvious what the problem is…

  205. By A.D.A.P on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    We should pick up Alex Smith !!!

  206. By Frederick Jones on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    It appears that Vikings.com bloggers are 100% anti Ponder.

    Jones just would like to see JOE in the 4th quarter when we’re getting hammered.

    FreddieTheFoot thinks the Vikings organization is committed to Ponder no matter what.

  207. By NO WORRIES ! on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    IS IT REAL DON OR REAL DORK ???? F.U.

  208. By garrett1212 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Today shows ponder wasnt worth 12th overall pick. Steadily has declined in progress over past few weeks. Dont believe receiving corps helped much, but he flat out missed several open guys. Should have won that game.

  209. By Tomcat on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Now we gotta run the table, which would be as likely as parting the Red sea.

  210. By novascotiavike on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    MINNESOTA VIKINGS
    Passing CP/AT YDS TD INT
    C. Ponder 12/25 119 1 2
    Rushing CAR YDS TD LG
    A. Peterson 21 210 1 82T….

    For anyone who misses the importance of this stat….>>>>>>AP AVERAGED AS MANY YARDS PER CARRY AS PONDER PER COMPLETION<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

  211. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    we could had had Karernick also……makes me sick to my stomach thinking about it.

  212. By 03 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    @SmileyStar

    You are absolutely right about that!! That has been the reason they persist to say Ponder is the one. Spielman’s resposibility!!!!!

  213. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Get Geno Smith, we’ll have to trade up, I don’t want another noodle arm in Barkley

  214. By purplegoldman on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    they said 3 years, so get ready for Ponder 2013. Its brutal.

  215. By Fonder on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Yes, ponder is not a NFL qb. let webb or get someone. What a wasted number 1 pick.

  216. By Frederick Jones on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    FreddieTheKnowItAll believes that they want Ponder to experience some NFL interceptions, sacks, and what not.

    They feel that is part of his coming of age a s a quarterback.

    Not many teams have done it that way. Matt Leinert of Ariz. Cards sure didn’t get that option.

    Perhaps the NY Jets and Sanchez are our role models. He has been their QB no matter what.

  217. By Tomcat on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    May as well run the single wing.

  218. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Nova don’t even quote that stat please, Ponder was 5/13 36 yards with 2 picks when the game actually mattered.

  219. By celticvikingwarrior on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Man do I LOVE THIS TEAM !!!!!!

    G.B. o-line had given up the 2nd MOST SACKS IN THE LEAGUE-37….the “GREAT” vikes d-line waits until 7 minutes to go in a losing cause to come up with the 1st of 2 MEANINGLESS SACKS….THANK YOU GUYS, I LOVE THIS TEAM!!!!!!!

    Starting QB, for probably the 6th or 7th time this season has LESS THAN 50 YARDS PASSING INTO THE 4TH QTR. AND NOT ONE SINGLE COMPLETION TO A WR IS STILL IN THE GAME….MAN DO I LOVE THIS TEAM……

    MAN, AM I PROUD TO BE A VIKINGS FAN. THANK YOU c.p. FOR THE WORST PERFORMANCE BY ANY NFL QB I’VE SEEN IN MY 50 PLUS YEARS OF WATCHING THE NFL…..

    A.P. YOU ARE THE BEST, A PURE BEAST AND INSPIRATION, the ONLY REASON TO WATCH….BUT I COULDN’T BECAUSE “FOX”, AFTER ADVERTISING ALL WEEK THE SHOWING OF MN.VS. GB, CHANGED, ON SAT. TO SHOWING SF V. RAMS….NOT THAT I CAN BLAME THEM….

    THANK YOU A.P., PLEASE STAY HEALTHY AND DON’T LOSE YOUR PASSION FOR THE GAME WE ALL LOVE SO MUCH BECAUSE YOU ARE PLAYING WITH SOME OF THE WORST…..

    THE SAME TO CHAD GREENWAY, I KNOW YOU PLAYED YOUR HEART OUT TODAY, MAKING THE FIRST 6 OR 7 TACKLES OF THE GAME AND RETAKING THE LEAGUE LEAD IN TACKLES…..

    5 DEF. LINE OFFSIDES PENALTIES IN THE FIRST HALF, OR WAS IT “ONLY” 4 ?….
    ARE YOU KIDDING ME???????????????
    ONE IS ABSURD, ESPECIALLY BY THE DT’S–WOW, DO I LOVE THIS TEAM….

  220. By Frederick Jones on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    JonesWhoKnowsEverything thinks that 2 are better than 1 (like the kids commercial).

    Develop 2 quarterbacks.

  221. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    PLEASE…..not Barkley

  222. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Hey oldtimer, stay tuned, that accountability speech is coming… it is the biggest part of Ponder’s playbook!

  223. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Agreed oldtimer, he is just another Ponder clone

  224. By elvis on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    After Pete’s second big run, why does ponder throw across his body on 1st n 10? On the 15!!!!!!!!!! When Pete’s hot, run em!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He coulda had 300. Last 4 games let’s see what Webb can do. We’ll only be 8-8 at best, try Webb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What’s to lose now! I don’t think it’s just receivers, Ponder’s lost whatever confidence he had. Plus his arm is Pennington like, not enough mustard. Ball velocity typically doesn’t improve. Outside of Webb, only option possibly is A. Smith, cause another 1 pick will set us back again. What the!!!!

  225. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    lets trade Ponder for another teams 3rd string qb

  226. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Vlad….you’ve noticed that also?

  227. By Frederick Jones on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Remember also there are practice players (perhaps Ponder?) and game players
    (Like Joe Webb).

    Regardless give them both a shot.

    It was good to see Gerhart play a hand full of snaps today.

    Jones is confused as to why Sherels didn’t play any defense. We couldn’t guard anyone in the second half. Why not let your quickest player play?

  228. By Jman on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Don’t worry fans. The Vikes will win the super bowl in a couple years when they get their new stadium. And they’ll play the super bowl there too.

  229. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway….I think we may have a qb in BMT.

  230. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    cut Ponder nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!

  231. By BlueBird7 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Seahawks beat Chicago 23/17.

  232. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    we might build a new stadium if Ponder is still qb

  233. By MLS on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    A lot of people make excuses, saying that the Vikings receiving corp lacks talent. But it is the QB that makes the receiver. Look what Favre did when he played for the Vikings. No was saying that Rice was a dominate WR.

  234. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    not

  235. By purplegoldman on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    the coaching staff is looking for there brains.

  236. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    BMT reminds me of Brett Farve in his arm, demeaner and possible leaderdhip.

  237. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    ponder lives up to his name. play the backups!!!!!!!!!!!

  238. By JB on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I am tired of having an terribly, terribly, terribly, awful, awful, awful QB…it sucks that we wasted our 11th pick two years ago…could have Nick Fairley or really anyone else would be better…need to address the QB position in the upcoming off-season, in the draft or in free agency…another rough day to be a Vikings fan, but will not give up on them…still hate and will always hate the Packers with a passion!

  239. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    MBT, he is a gunslinger for sure, the org needs to start at least one or both of him and Webb the rest of the year to see if one can potentially be a starting QB otherwise it’s back to the drawing board.

  240. By Frederick Jones on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Are all of us wrong???

    :O :( :o :( :(

  241. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Oldtimer, it has been fingernails on the chalkboard… the one that worried me the most is Ponder’s comment: “I have to keep overcoming this stuff…”

    How does that inspire me if I am a teammate that he PLANS on more of this kind of garbage, and he is going to have to “keep overcoming” these kinds of performances…

    Ponder apologists are awfully quiet today…. Wonder why.

    Ponder action figures are now on sale at all Toy’s R Us……

  242. By Tomcat on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Anyone notice what `Hawks rookie qb did to that nasty Bears defense?

  243. By Frederick Jones on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Are all of us wrong?

    ;( :( :o :( :(

  244. By Frederick Jones on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Are all of us wrong?
    :( :o :( :(

  245. By Beloud on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    This loss is falls squarely on the shoulders of Frazier and staff. When will they learn a square peg will not fit into a round hole!! Stubborness has never and will never be attrubuted to a good coach. A coach wih a short career maybe.

  246. By Frederick Jones on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Are all of us wrong?

    _ _ _ _ _ _ _

  247. By purplegoldman on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I would not buy a vikes ticket till Ziggi fires Spielman and crew.

  248. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    With a solid good QB– not great, just good, and two decent WRs and we would be winning– today we would have easily won. This is very sad.

  249. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Vlad19….I hear ya……even average qbs show minimum progress…..but not Ponder…he regresses each week.

  250. By Frederick Jones on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    He who has a hammer soon starts to think everything is a nail.

    But is it possible that all of us are wrong about the QB situation and the Vikings staff is correct?

  251. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    If you all remember the great George Blanda…. a bloody knuckled kicker who also was Raiders back-up QB in the good ole days….

    Blanda is better than Ponder on Pnder’s BEST day…. Ponder is a mop-up yard specialist.

    I am popping popcorn before I listen to his post game presser… this will be fun (if it weren’t so painful).

  252. By purplehaze1 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    we could have (Jerry) Rice, Moss and Carter: it wouldn’t mean Jack…Ponder can’t read, see or throw…he is a disgrace. the best RB in the universe who runs roughshod over the Pukers for 200 yds; only to have his QB (i use term loosely), give it away twice. then we have the sidline statue refusing to make a change…Zygi…you just got all kinds fo fan support o build your palace…now it’s time to return the favour…bench Ponder…Ryan sat Sanchez for crying out loud and he was drafted way higher…unload the coaching staff after the season…this is just outright embarrassing…GO VIKES!!!

  253. By UH-OH on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Something is up with Harvin…Did you hear frazier in the press conferance? Hasnt travelled with the team for 2 weeks and frazier didnt want to disclose any information. I am sure he wants out of MN because he knows Ponder sucks.

  254. By elvis on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Tomcat, i wanted to believe also, especially after first 4 games or so. But now I have no confidence in him. If any fatcats read this blog, TRY WEBB! What’s more important, seeing what he can do b-4 next season or saving jobs!!!

  255. By Lion Tamer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Too many wins to get a great 1st round draft choice.
    Not enough wins to make the playoffs.
    If the Jets can bench Sanchez, we can certainly sit Ponder.
    Limit A.P. the last few games of the season. No more injuries in meaningless games!

  256. By purplegoldman on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    The only way this team wins games is when the opponant beats them selves.

  257. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Titus…right on….even with an average qb we could have two more wins at least.

  258. By Frederick Jones on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    But is it possible that all of us are wrong about the QB situation and the Vikings staff is correct?

  259. By novascotiavike on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    @ Parkway……My comparison was for the entire “game that mattered”.

    A stat like that never reflects well on your QB.

  260. By celticvikingwarrior on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    ROOKIE QB RUSSELL WILSON GOES INTO CHICAGO HAS AN EXCELLENT GAME AND THROWS THE WINNING TD PASS TO SYDNEY RICE…..AND WE ARE LEFT TO “PONDER” WHAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN…..HOW POETIC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  261. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Rooke Luck 391 4 TDs….. Ponder….

  262. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    The cataclysmic WORST throw (of so many) was when he had Peterson on the nice play-action and up the sideline, he had 4 steps on the coverage…. Ponder underthrows it by 8-10 yards and hits the LBer in the back..

    Ponder values that lofted, “get-lucky” throw… he is now famous for the fall-away throw as if it were a fadeaway jump shot in basketball…. Not the same in NFL… Ponder doesn’t get it. He never will.

  263. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    How many years before they pull Ponder?

  264. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Now with this loss it woud have been a good idea to let Jordan Tofman play, but we let him go and signed an injury reject from the team that signed him….unbelievable.

  265. By BlueBird7 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    The Vikings couldn’t beat either one.

    Yes, I know. Wew will beat the stuffings out of them next week, right?

    Not with Ponder we won’t. All the Ponder fans are saying “Oh but he is still learning. No way will the Vikings get anywhere with that clown.

    After the camera panned the sideline where Ponder was standing, he was smiling and laughing just after he threw that intercept in the Endzone.

    I don’t want to ever see Ponder back on the field.Put Web, the new kid, or even the waterboy in!

  266. By Tomcat on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    It isn`t Spielmans fault- we had a great draft. He did sign Carlson and Simpson, howsomever.

  267. By novascotiavike on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Just in case you missed it, I’ll let Wobschall sugar-coat it for you….
    Passing CP/AT YDS TD INT
    C. Ponder 12/25 119 1 2
    Rushing CAR YDS TD LG
    A. Peterson 21 210 1 82T….

    For anyone who misses the importance of this stat….>>>>>>AP AVERAGED AS MANY YARDS PER CARRY AS PONDER PER COMPLETION>>>>>>>>>>>>>

  268. By Frederick Jones on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Uh-Oh,

    Jones has commented on the poor way the Vikings handled his sprained ankle. Is it possible that Harvin went in on his own, or something like that?

    Either way it was very stupid.

    Now he will have to have off-season surgery in addition to missing several games.

  269. By byoby on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I’ve been a Viking fan for decades. Today’s performance by ponder, has to rank near the top of the list of failures! I mean, I have to ask myself why do I put up with all these disappointments. How much can a Viking fan take? I feel bad that AP & JA have to lay it on the line every week, for this ineptitude! It isn’t any wonder they had such trouble getting a new stadium approved. When you get this kind of effort by some of the players and the entire coaching staff!! Like somebody said before, my Viking soul is in a very dark place right now………………………

  270. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Well, time to adopt a team for the playoffs cause it ain’t the Vikes. I like Seattle.

  271. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway…..and Luck has only played 11 games, Ponder twice as many at least.

  272. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder wants to talk to Farve after the season. why? he will be out of a job anyway!!!!!!!!

  273. By Cobrasvt on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Thank God we were the to put GB and Chicago back on their feet! I know they both are THRILLED to have us for two more games. Pitiful! Trade AP and give him the chance to play on a Team he deserves. Waht a wate of talent. Tahnks AP! You are all we have!

  274. By elvis on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Titus, you weren’t suppose to comment until St. Louis, but I don’t blame u after today’s game man.

  275. By Lion Tamer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Harvin doesn’t want to play with the loser Ponder.And he is delaying surgery he is going to have in off season.

  276. By Frederick Jones on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    @Titus,

    That is a very good question.

    I would rather have seen MBT or Chris Kluwe at QB than Ponder by late in the 3rd Quarter.

    What can you do? It’s frustrating.

  277. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder would be better off watching tapes of Farve rather that having coffee with hom. What is Brett going to do with him anyway, he has no talent.

  278. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    You are right in my eyes UH-OH… Harvin is harboring great resentment for the staff sticking with the walking accident… futility in cleats, Christian “accountability specialist” Ponder.

    Harvin is outspoken about it I think… might not make the press (that much is good) but there is NO doubt the team is about to abandon all the Ponder support…. they are going to HATE going to work while “Wrongway Feldman” keeps his sorry act up at QB…

    Good for Harvin.

  279. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is the worse qb to play for the Vikings in their 52 year history

  280. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    “I’m going to come back to work and work hard, gotta move on and put this one behind us”

    -Ponder just now

  281. By lance on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    well I say grab up alex smith in the offseason… AP and Harvin are in their prime we can’t wait on another QB to develope. But if we do make a leap into the top to get a QB it needs to be Gannon. Now that guy is very very good

  282. By Frederick Jones on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    It’s not always the QBs fault, but C’mon man!!!

    ************************************************************************************************************************************8

  283. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    “I’ll have to look at it on tape, number one rule is not to throw across your body running the opposite way”

    -Ponder

    Hasn’t he said this the last few dumb picks he has thrown? Clearly he doesn’t learn

  284. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Pakway……Ponder is putting alot of games behind him….nothing to savor from any of them.

  285. By BlueBird7 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Did anyone besides me see the camera pan the sidelines where Frazier was seen with TWO playbook sheets in his hand. ????

  286. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    lets trade our whole draft fro Brady

  287. By Lion Tamer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Rams beat the 49ers. Alex Smith might start next week.

  288. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I remember Ponder strutting around on the sidelines during the last pre-season game like he was some kind of “pro” qb.

  289. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I was thinking that too– and how said to MBT after MBT played well– you’ve been watching me?

  290. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is a legend in his own mind. can’t wait to see his reaction when they cut him

  291. By elvis on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Last month or so Peterson been on fire. You can see when he’s on fire. Can’t the coaches see when he’s on fire??????????????? Especially when there’s no existence of an air game????????? For how many weeks now??? We all know the definition of insanity. This game really p!ssed me off. We coulda had it.

  292. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway….you would think that with all the “TAPE” frazier and Ponder watch that we would have a few more wins. I’m so sick of hearing that every week…and also, how the team had such a “good” week og practice.

  293. By rick on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Presser

    I just got to get better, Ponder will say!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  294. By MLS on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder’s deep ball is not accurate and has no velocity. He is not ready for this level. Only way to win with this type of QB is to have excellent pass protection and lights out defense.

    I’m not sure that Webb is an accurate passer or that he can read defenses and make adjustments at the line, but he has a big arm and should be given an opportunity to see if he can give the passing game a spark.

  295. By rick on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    And get rid of the social media addict Kluwe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  296. By lance on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    the bad news for us fans… the staff blames wr’s! harvins contract is done after this season is it not? Ithey keep playing ponder and harvin isnt coming back! Remember he already got upset about the passing game.

  297. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway, you ruined my popcorn sit down with Ponder’s presser… the surprises are now lost…

    Oh wait, they were before it started… he just hits playback on his recorder…..

    “Gotta move on…” is right. Move well on Ponder. Clipboard calling, or a grocery store stock boy apron!

  298. By vman on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Well………I’ll be up next weekend to watch the Vikes start Joe Webb at QB. He’ll stread the bears with his mobility and his ability to pass the ball past the line of scrimmage……….Hopefully, if, by some miracle, the vikes get the ball inside the 10yrd line they will hand off to the best rb to have ever played the game. Yes its true everyone in the dome will know its coming but he will score if u give it to him. But Musgrave is to wise………..he will out smart everyone by giving the ball to a subparr QB to throw into db coverage or into the the hands of an opponent who is just waiting for it to happen. PONDER SUCKS !! MUSGRAVE SUCKS !! FRAZIER SUCKS !! Like I said, (before the draft) should of drafted R. Wilson in the 3rd. Go Vikes………………….Blah Blah Blah

  299. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    we can’t trade Ponder for a draft pick, nobody wants him

  300. By UH-OH on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder blows. He knows it, we know it, the team knows it and the coaching staff knows it. It wouldnt matter who we had at WR with him out there. He overthrows, underthrows and throws picks. 5 completions before junk time and 2 INTS If I went to work and preformed like him I would be fired day 1 let alone after going 2-6. We have a slight chance still if we can bench ponder. The bears and pack are each 2 games ahead of us but we play them both 1 more time. We win out we get in and potentially win the division….DELUSIONAL…LMAO

  301. By b.free on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    CUT ponder, FIRE spielman, ponder is a complete waste, spielman can’t draft

  302. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    didn’t take long for Seattle to figgure out T-JACK was no good

  303. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    The first time I started disliking Ponder was when he was in an interview with a female reporter and the first thing he commented on was “his good looks”. He said that he looked good in speedos one time too……just can’t stand the guy I guess….but thats just me.

  304. By Bigfan1 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    How many games does Ponder have to put behind him, how many more excuses can the fans stomach, man I wish there was a right in petition to get rid of players. YOu have first year, not second year qbs who are lighting up the league like Luck and Wilson, being young is definitely no excuse. As a frustrated fan WHAT IS THE PROBLEM??

  305. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    MLS, you notice Ponder’s long LOFTED floater to Simpson….. out of bounds….. like he has a chance of catching a ball 10 feet high and 4 feet OB..

    Nice throw Ponder.

    Wondering where all the Ponder fans are… come on in guys, blog is ripe!

  306. By vikingfanforlife on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier,his staff, Ponder all need to go away. We are after all, the ones who supply the money to the team, Sorta like the U.S. House. Holders of the purse. I still want Ponder to finish the year out. He will supply the rest of the nails for his coffin.

  307. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    FIRE FRAZIER so we can get a different QB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  308. By Mark B on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Wow … just wow. Here is my question to all of you who want to bench/cut Ponder: Just who the heck is Joe Webb going to throw the freaking football to? For most of the game, Rudolph was the ONLY receiver that would provide separation and make a play on the ball. Its HORRIBLE that the team goes into the 4th quarter before they are able to complete a pass to a WR – but I blame the receiving corp MORE than I blame Ponder for that. The Packers played mostly man coverage knowing the Vikes were fielding a sub-par WR corp and NONE of the receivers were able to beat those one on ones.

    Those who are saying Ponder is too quick to go out of the pocket and run I say most of the time there isn’t anywhere to go with the ball anyway, might as well try to get some positive yards.

    Frasier said that the staff would “talk about getting some help at WR” and for once I agree with Aikman – it would be a darn short conversation. The best available free agents right now are TO, Chad Johnson, and Jabar Gaffney. Now the question is will they make a move for someone that teams CAN’T leave one on one for extended periods of time …..

  309. By Canadian Vikes Fan on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder didn’t play well. He might suck. Not sugar coating anything. But anyone who thinks the Vikings should take another QB in the 1st round next year should root for a different team. Bottom line this team has no weapons to throw to when Percy isn’t playing. If the 1st round pick next year isn’t a receiver than Spielman gotta go.

  310. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    where is Shawn? he loves Ponder

  311. By BlueBird7 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Titus

    Good choice Seattle is, I used to live in the area. I like the Seahawks.

    Seriously considering trading the Vikings for a team that that has a very good
    QB and plays to win with good coaches.

  312. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Wouldn’t it be fantastic if next week all the vans refused to go into the stadium if Ponder was the qb? That would make my day.

  313. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn!!!!!…..where are you???

  314. By MLS on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I saw an intermediate pass being lofted today. It should have been rifled to the WR.

  315. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    give up the entire draft for Brady!!!

  316. By Canadian Vikes Fan on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Aromashodon’t shouldn’t be on an NFL roster. If not for Rudolph the Redzone Reindeer the team would be not much better than a peewee team in terms of receiving talent

  317. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    vikingfanforlife, I am liking your last remark about the nails…. couldn’t have said it better.

    He just needs these kind of “show me games” for all fans to finally fall out of love.

    But watching and talking about Ponder’s certain failures since last year, I know I am the old saw….. I am also the right saw…..

    Now this season is gone, there is no backdoor in unless everbody loses every game going forward except Vikes….

    Go, Ponder-less Vikes!

  318. By vikes- or - die on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    We lost the battle but not the war. I love the direction the team is heading. Go Vikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

  319. By Jack on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder do us a favor and bench yourself!!!!!!!!

  320. By Spencer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Lets give Ponder 5 more years to mature.

  321. By Canadian Vikes Fan on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    How about the fact the defence gave up an 11 minute drive in the 4th quarter?

  322. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder “lofts ” the ball……experience in high school.college, pre-season games, regular season games and still can’t throw with any authorrity or accuracy??
    We all see it except Frazier and Ponder himself.

  323. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    this sucks, another Christmas with a losing record. thanks Ponder!!!!!!!!!!!!

  324. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Mark B, you NEED to see actual film study on this game, and you need to know what “open” is in NFL….

    Ponder FEARS throwing the ball except to the guys he feels “comfy” with, and that is rule ONE to a failure of a QB. Ponder zones in on Rudolph and that buries him,

    Ponder misses his reads and misses the open receiver USUALLY. I would count a dozen for you, but if you didn’t see it yourself, you will jsut assume because Ponder didn;t throw it to the open guy, there was none.

    Wrong.

  325. By wacky on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    ponder cost the vikings game agine!!!!!!!!!!!!

  326. By Tomcat on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I would like to see Ponders birth certificate.

  327. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn is pretty quiet

  328. By Mark B on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Where to begin with the Luck/RGIII/Russell Wilson/Kaepernick conversations. Who do those teams have lining up at the WR spot? Luck has Avery, TY Hilton, and Reggie Wayne. RGIII has Morgan, Moss, and Garcon. Wilson has Sidney Rice, Tate, and Braylon Edwards. Kaepernick has Crabtree, Moss, and Manningham. Who (outside of Percy who’s been out the last 3 games) makes up the Vikes WR corp? You are telling me that Ponder is set up to succeed throwing to the likes of Burton, Aromashdou, and Jenkins? Give me a break. I could find better receivers in the high school ranks.

  329. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    all i can say is i told you so

  330. By Mike B. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Tough game to watch. Big part of this game is definately on Ponder today. He made some critical mistakes, but as a team we are not where we need to be. Green Bay was able to run on our Defense and that opened the game for Rodgers. Tackling needs to get better. The OL is still struggling. We come home against the Bears and now they are talking about looking to see if WR are availible to help the team. I think it’s a bit late for this move, but hey maybe they find a long term solution. We definately need a new receiver core. I still say we stick with Ponder and I think he will improve this season. Will that translate to wins. I am not sure and it may not. Long run we will know where we stand. I stand by my previous statements you leave Webb on the bench, as I don’t see us winning with him anyway. Besides it’s about the long term solution and not winning a particular game.

  331. By Tomcat on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    What is Ponder trying to hide?

  332. By goldeneagle on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I’ve been a Viking fan for many years. I have always been in the corner of the coaches to develop players, build a roster, etc. But I think we all agree that Ponder is not going to get it done for the Vikings in the long run. San Francisco and Cincinnati have gotten way more mileage out of their 3rd round picks. With just an AVERAGE performance by our QB–we could be 9-3. I love Adrian Peterson, without him would we even win a game? If we don’t find a QB soon, let the poor guy go to a contender to fulfill his career. I think we owe him that much. I must agree with most posters today–the worst performance by a QB for the Vikings in a long time–maybe worse than Tavaris Jackson. I know some have said give him time to develop, but today really brings reality home hard–he does not have what it takes to be a top QB in the NFL. Admit your mistake and plan for the future. Let him finish the season and look for another QB–future drafts or trade.
    The Packers were there for the taking–and we could not get this win? Wow.

  333. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn????
    Shawn?????
    Where are you Shawn??

  334. By Shawn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    re read the blog boys … Shawn already made a statement

  335. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    STOP dreaming up excuses for Ponder…. He got BOMBED in stats and in game, never mind the 11 minute drive, good for GB…. They did what offenses are supposed to do. They converted 1st downs and scored pts!

    Vikes had the chance to go up 21-10 in first few minutes of 2nd half,,, Ponder gave it away…. Next possession, down to the 20 or so and another whimpy throw to his “security blanket” Rudolph and another giveaway.

    I can’t qualify EITHER of those plays as takeaways. Ponder gave gifts!

  336. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is a putz

  337. By UH-OH on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    The defense gave up an 11 minute drive because they figure why go sit on the bench for 3 plays. Might as well stay out there. This team has given up except for AP. They know they stop the O and Ponder will come in for a quick 3 and out or drive down the field for an INT in the redzone. Ponder isnt and never was the answer. TJACK was better in his sleep than PONDER is. How do you throw for under 100 yards in more than half your games with almost as many INT;s as completions. My grandma could do better than that with a RB running 200 yards in a game. The pack was playing man to man not only because of the WR core but because they know christian “3 and out” or “noodle arm” ponder isnt a good QB and so they were saying hey 3 and out beat us with your noodle arm.

  338. By Mark B on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Vlad – please do enlighten me. I will agree that on one of his scrambles if Ponder holds the ball another .1 seconds Rudolph opens up on the seam and on the second pick Wright was open. Name me another in this game please…..

  339. By Frederick Jones on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder aka 3 and out,

    ThisOldJones has watched the Vikings since 1968. The worst Vikings QB who ever took the field was probably Gary Cuozzo (who we traded to the Cardinals for John Gilliam who was a Pro Bowler – go figure?).

    But next to him, I would have to say that Ponder is the worst these OldJonesBones have ever seen since 1968. (But we also forget…there were others who were forgettable…lol)

    (Side note: Cuozzo lasted one season with the Cards where Gilliam was valuable to the Vikings for several years) It just goes to show you, these NFL guys are not as smart as they think they are!

  340. By Rush on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    So Ponder under throws Peterson who had a 3 yrd lead on the defender ponder throws the ball 40 yrds sad part is AP is 45 yrds down field?? next throw Gehhart is 20 yrds down field wide open ponder throws the ball 25 yrds? what part of this is hard to understand?? Aikman had a filed day describing Ponder on National tv maybe some body higher above heard him and will listen, O and the so called wide recievers what a joke!!!!

    If I had 1 football wish it would be for AP to be traded to a team that deserves him because this is just a travisty for him to be on this so called team!!

  341. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder aka 3 and out.
    Looks like MikeB might be Shawn.

  342. By Haystack Calhoun on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I told you all Ponder was GARBAGE.

  343. By Ponder the BUST on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    As a couple of posters have mentioned, Harvin is extending his “injury” because he refuses to play with the worst QB in the league. Does everyone remember Harvin screaming in Fraziers face on the sideline about Ponder the week before his injury (I think it was the week before). The Vikes are going to lose one of the best offensive and special teams weapons in the league because of their stuborn attitude towards Ponder. I can’t believe the vikes would choose Ponder over Harvin.

  344. By QB on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Blair Walsh, you have had a great year, but you could have least covered the spread.

  345. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    57-2 when a runningback gets over 200 yards, Ponder broke the odds chart off the map

  346. By MLS on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    A good QB makes due with the WR’s he has. He understands the strengths and weaknesses of each and puts the ball in the best place possible for the receive to make a play.

  347. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    And why do those named receivers look so good? Perhaps the QB that delivers the ball with purpose, on target and the open receiver???

    Amazing what a good QB can do for a receiving crew.

    Good players make others around them better.

    So tell me, is Ponder pulling his weight? He sure isn;t making anyone but Peterson look good — and that is Peterson at work, NOT Ponder.

    The greatest running game int eh NFL and perhaps RB in NFL history, and Ponder can’t generate a passing game. No excuses anymore. If you are seeing this, you never will.

    Ponder will not be in football by 2016 and that is 2 years too long.

  348. By Frederick Jones on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    @goldeneagle,

    Lots of guys say they love Peterson, Harvin, or even Allen.

    What would really be saying something right now is “I love Ponder.”

  349. By Danny Harms on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Dear Mr Frazier,

    Ponder this…Webb is in. Ponder is not the man you need to make the big plays. Give someone else a chance who will throw the ball and run instead of just handing it off (ie: Drew Brees, Payton Manning, Russell Wilson) I would also like to see Peterson in on the 3rd down.

    Very frustrated Vikings fan!

    PS – Lose the next 4 games and go for the draft picks

  350. By paVikesfan on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Live in Pennsylvania and I only see two or three games a year. It just happens to be these last two dismal games. All day AP love you, you are a beast. Ponder needs to go and the coach needs to grow a set. If Webb isn’t a reliable starter is there no good qbs out there? How about calling Alex Smith he is not getting any playing time.

  351. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Mark B, NOT getting drawn into that argument. You can’t see, that is your business. Ponder is late with almost everything he throws…

    But let me remind you of Peteron having 4 steps (8 yards at least) on a LBer down the sideline… maybe that is one of them that you don;t count as open?

  352. By Mike B. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    No Mike B. is Mike B. and has been for a long time now. I just believe you stick with your long term plan and see how it works out. If overall you are improving then you make adjustments and move forward. This isn’t about single games, but about the direction of this team. I said back in the summer we needed a number one WR and some scoffed at that. Now it’s glaring we need a WR, RT, LG, LB and NT. I am not ready as of yet to say QB. I think we should see what happens during the offseanson.

  353. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    cut Ponder so Harvin stays on the team!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  354. By Frederick Jones on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder aka 3 and out,

    ThisOldJones has watched the Vikings since 1968. The worst Vikings QB who ever took the field was probably Gary Cuozzo (who we traded to the Cardinals for John Gilliam who was a Pro Bowler – go figure?).

    But next to him, I would have to say that Ponder is the worst these OldJonesBones have ever seen since 1968. (But we also forget…there were others who were forgettable…lol)

    (Side note: Cuozzo lasted one season with the Cards where Gilliam was valuable to the Vikings for several years) It just goes to show you, these NFL guys are not as smart as they think they are!

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  355. By Haystack Calhoun on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder got the coaching staff fool like a motherphucker.The dude ain’t $hit.

  356. By Mark B on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    And just to make things crystal clear – I do hold Ponder responsible for his errors. The first pick was a horrible decision – you never throw across your body late toward the center of the field. He under threw Peterson in the third after he beat his man. Does he lock onto Rudolph – yes, but honestly can you blame the guy? When Jarius Wright can come in and in two games become the second best WR on the team that is a little telling.

    I want to see what Ponder can do with more than just AP, Rudolph, and Harvin. If we still see this same result then – I will start that petition to remove the QB myself.

  357. By Frederick Jones on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    @Mike B,

    Finally a Ponder supporter.

    U could win the lottery. If you do OldBonesJones will remember that you chose Ponder.

    Good luck with that!

  358. By Mike B. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Harvin although a great talent is not a prototypical #1 WR, so if the team decided not to sign him it’s not going to effect your overall plan for the future. I would hate it myself, but sometimes you need to break ties if things aren’t working out. Frazier is going to want guys around him that see his vision and not their own.

  359. By Steve Kozak on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Russell Wilson, RGIII, Andrew Luck, Colin Kaepernick, Brady Quinn: How did the Vikings end up with Christian Ponder? Come on scouts, shape up! I agree with a previous blogger that Zigy should go after Alex Smith, who I think is a free agent after this season. And why did we ever let Sidney Rice go? I know it’s all about the money, but you businessmen must know it takes money to make money!

  360. By MLS on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I would say that Simpson had a good season last year and showed that he had some upside.

  361. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    thats pretty sad when you have to cut a #12 overall draft pick because you can’t get a draft pick for him

  362. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    this will go down as one of the worse high draft picks of all time

  363. By novascotiavike on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Mike Kn0bschall)….” Vikes lose in GB,still in division hunt”;

    ” After a hard loss to the Packers, where our star RB averaged more yards per attempts than our QB, the Vikings are looking ahead to everybody else losing in the NFC.

  364. By Mark B on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Vlad – “not getting drawn into that argument” I’ll take as “I don’t want to agree with you, but I have to agree with you.” Notice I was focusing on the WR corp. AP was open that play, and Ponder missed the throw. I’ll readily admit that. BUT – that’s one play. Where were the receivers for the other 24 passing plays? You can’t count on 2 offensive players – regardless of who they are.

    Does Ponder need to play better? Abso-friggen-lutley – I’m just not ready to throw him to the side yet with only a couple offensive weapons.

  365. By Frederick Jones on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    @Danny Harms,

    They did play Peterson on 3rd down the entire first half. Then slowly the 2nd half they started to take it away from him.

    First of all, they should play Gerhart in those situations where he really needs rest. (Not often today!)

    Second, A.D. is your best athlete…don’t tell any of these fans he can’t catch!
    Play him.

    I agree with you entirely.

  366. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder. wanna be qb

  367. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    So Mike B is proposing breaking ties with Harvin is maybe good business…. but we should stick with Ponder…..

    There is nothing to say to this.

  368. By Frederick Jones on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder aka 3 and out,

    ThisOldJones has watched the Vikings since 1968. The worst Vikings QB who ever took the field was probably Gary Cuozzo (who we traded to the Cardinals for John Gilliam who was a Pro Bowler – go figure?).

    But next to him, I would have to say that Ponder is the worst these OldJonesBones have ever seen since 1968. (But we also forget…there were others who were forgettable…lol)

    (Side note: Cuozzo lasted one season with the Cards where Gilliam was valuable to the Vikings for several years) It just goes to show you, these NFL guys are not as smart as they think they are!

    *******************************************************************************************************************

  369. By Mike B. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder aka you are assuming he would get cut. The only way I see Ponder getting cut from this team is if Spielman and Frazier lost their jobs first. Ponder is their guy and they are all in with him. They are going to give him the entire season and then evaluate. You might as well start to accept it or be disappointed for the rest of the games. For me I want to see how it goes. Ponder looks like a very good NFL QB when he is on his game. We have only 4 more games to go anyway and would have to win all 4 to be sure of a playoff birth. No point changing up now.

  370. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Mark B, don;t flatter yourslef, you obviously don;t know what “open” is in NFL.

    No, don;t agree with you, in fact couldn’t disagree more.

    I was talking about RECEIVERS, any and all…. Peterson was and IS a receiver on passing plays too.

    Now about Ponder’s first 3 and out (his now famous act) he tries to lead Rudolph into coverage and almost gets picked off on his FIRST Friegin throw of game…. and WARTCH tape, J Wright was wide open on the swing to the sideline AT the first down mark……

    Maybe HE didn’t qualify as open or maybe not a receiver by your definition?

  371. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    ad needs about 140 yards per game to get 2,000 yard, go AD!

  372. By twr on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    unbelievabley horible!!! and yet he still plays. Get rid of all the coaches and this so called qb. so bad im so ashamed to be a viking fan. Frazier dosent have a clue. get eid of of cord, doesnt have a clue. wilfs det a real coach PLEASE.

  373. By paVikesfan on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Good point without Rudolph and AP there isn’t much of an offense. No throws to a wide receiver until late in the fourth quarter. Except for a few this is the BIGGEST group of under achievers in the NFL.

  374. By purplehaze1 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    for all of those saying that Ponder doesn’t have any WR’s to throw to…it wouldn’ t change anything…he can’t see the field…he can’t read defenses…his feet are in permnanent happy mode. when he does step up and find someone to throw (check that lob) the testicle to…he under throws (see AP sideline)..over throws (see Simpson and Gerhard) or throws an interception…ahhhh make that 2. like i said…Carter, Moss and Rice wouldn’t change anything. this is compunded by the coaching staff, who refuse to admit this and make a change. i thought they should have tried to get Flynn befoer the Seahags did…GO VIKES!!!

  375. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B., you know nothing about football, don’t go away mad, just go away

  376. By Mark B on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    MLS – I’ve been saying it since they signed him. I think that Simpson’s “good” season last year was more of a testament to the talent of AJ Green than it is to that of Simpson. Green was taking the attention of the secondary and Simpson was able to capitalize on it. When he is placed into the role of #1 receiver, well, we see the result.

  377. By Mike B. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t want Harvin to leave the team,but he’s not a irreplaceable. I also didn’t say I would keep Ponder over Harvin. Obviously Harvin is a better player than Ponder is right now. It’s just that the team could afford to lose Harvin over other parts .

  378. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Bottom line is this, You WILL be able to toss Ponder aside one day. It jsut takes you much longer to see it or admit it.

    He will be gone and not soon enough. He lacks in almost every tangible and intangible. He is a good high school QB. That’s as far as I will go.

    Shame on Frazier and Mushgrave for not treating this team fairly and giving themselves a chance to win NOW, because they could with a QB.

  379. By vikingfanforlife on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    The problem with pulling Ponder and starting Joe Webb is, as soon as Joe struggles who do you think they will put back in the game. And guess what, we get to do this all over again. Let Ponder take care of Ponder.

  380. By animal26 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Well, since we know Noodle arm ponder is going to remain QB the whole season, (baring injury) We might as well accept that this season is over and just hope we end up 6-10, so we can have a fairly decent position in the next draft. Hopefully we will kick Ponder to the curve because the kid cant play QB. I wish they’d put webb in, but that isn’t happening sadly. Heck, I’d rather have Tim Tebow as our Starting QB over Mr. no throw Ponder. Going to be a long few years, as long as the Vikings continue to believe blindly in Mr. Ponder.

  381. By vman on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    @ Canadian Vike fan, I think a team does start with the qb . Its the mosst important position on the field. We can get a good one in the first round. Look at the Colts of last year and the impact of a GOOD ROOKIE QB. We are wasting time with ponder. My 12.yr old son , ” ponder throws like a girl” (sorry ladies, hes young) Everyone can see it. His arm is a Noodle…………lets move on, let Webb or the Rookie play. Lets see what we got…and make the right changes for once. I can’t take the 50yrd passing games anymore…….we made the GB Pukes look good…………The Vikes are proving that even with a 200yrd rusher….you got to have atleast an average QB to win, WE DON”T !

  382. By Spencer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    AJ Jefferson is horrific.

  383. By Mike B. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder aka go play madden that’s as long as your attention span is. You have no idea what the plan is for this team long run. You are only evaluating game to game, which is a mistake. You need to eval over a duration of time. We have to see how things work out and it’ isn’t like we can change what’s going to happen anyway. Ponder will start against Chicago at home and will end the game if he’s healthy. You heard it here as you heard it last week. Ponder is Fraizier and Speilman’s guy.

  384. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Vikes cannot afford to lose Harvin over any other parts. We lack offensive weapons and Harvin is one of the league’s BEST… and we only need to pay him to keep him.

    But you would suggest letting him go is okay and take chance ona draft pick or a FA pick-up to replace him….

    Hmm, gonna have to think about that reasoning… no I am not. Bad idea. You have about 12-15 GREAT offenisve weapons in NFL, and we have TWO of them… and still our offense is bad.

    WHY is this so hard for some people to see why we are bad in offense?

    Yes, we can go get more receivers, but you DON’T dump out your thoroughbreds. You just don’t.

  385. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier is going to lose his job if he sticks with Ponder the rest of the year

  386. By Rush on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    So how do all these ROOKIE QB’s have 300 yrd games and our SECOND yr QB struggles to get 100 yrds??? You Ponder fans please explain I am listening? And if your answer is “It takes time” I am going to delete ur answer!!! When he was at Florida State 5 yrs he couldn’t win the ACC title, so waht is going to change here!!! NOTHING!!

  387. By JE on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Why cant we see if Webb is the guy?? We have only seen him start 3 games and he is only 25 years old. I have seen enough of Ponder. BENCH PONDER AND PUT WEBB IN!!! Webb deserves a chance to show if he has improved. Ponder has made his own bed. BENCH PONDER!!

  388. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder please retire early, we want Percy to stay!!!!!!!!!!!!

  389. By vikes- or - die on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    You F=uckin Retire. Have you ever played volleyball?

  390. By JE on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    This has been going on all season.Ponder cant throw the ball for any yards.If we had a solid QB we would be a playoff team no question about it. AP is a beast!!

  391. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    CUT PONDER NOW!!!!!!!!!

  392. By JE on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    What is wrong with benching a player when he is playing poorly?? 7 games in a row Ponder has struggled! ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PUT WEBB IN AND LET HIM GIVE IT A GO!!

  393. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    all i want for Chrismas is a different qb

  394. By Ponder the BUST on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B – You absolutely did say they should keep Ponder over Harvin. By the way Harvin is a slot receiver not a WR. and he is the most dangerous player on the O because of his versatility not his receiving ability. Also you forgot about his kick returning. I can’t believe your still defending Ponder. Shows how much you know.

  395. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B is a joke

  396. By Spencer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

  397. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder will lead the team to another embarrassing loss

  398. By lance on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    frazier needs to benched

  399. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    fire FRazier!!!!

  400. By Mike B. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I think should be fantasy blog and not reality blog. The coach runs the team and he will determine who plays and who doesn’t. I will tell you why not start Webb, because he lost that chance when they drafted Ponder. This staff has never been sold on Webb, beyond keeping him as an inexpensive back up and another wildcat option. He was given a chance this year to become a regular backup and evlauate him that way. This year is all about Ponder and seeing if he is the futrue of this team. That’s how this season is going to go. I thought everyone would have realized that before the season started, but I guess not. I was all about dumping this coaching staff after last year, but I listened to Fred and others and give Frazier a chance. So if you’re giving Frazier a chance you need to give Ponder that same chance. As far as the Harvin arguemnt, we let Randy Moss go so, enough said.

  401. By Shawn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

  402. By Ponder the BUST on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B says
    “sometimes you need to break ties if things aren’t working out. Frazier is going to want guys around him that see his vision and not their own.”

    then he says
    ” I also didn’t say I would keep Ponder over Harvin”

    which is it?

  403. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    bring back T-JACK

  404. By JE on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Same QB, Same results. Just another 100 yard passing game with the best running game in all of football. WHAT MORE NEEDS TO BE SAID? WHAT MORE DO WE NEED TO SEE??

  405. By paVikesfan on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Alex Smith I am sure he wants to play

  406. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    i wonder who wanted Ponder in the draft? Spielman never did

  407. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Alex Smith is starting next week

  408. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    New England will be looking to get rid of Brady in a few years

  409. By Mike B. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    That’s just it’s a coaches decison if he choses to keep Ponder and getting rid of Harvin that’s his choice. Not mine. The coach is going to want players on his team and not their own. Which says nothing about my personal preference. I would hate to see Harvin go, but the Vikings will survive even though.

  410. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder, don’t go away mad, just go away

  411. By Mike B. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    WTF Ponder aka. Spielman was the first after last years draft saying we got our guy. Do you even follow the team beyond the games played. I mean really.

  412. By JE on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry Stephen Burton,they didnt have any problem doing that to Webb. 3 starts and we havnt seen him since. Looking back on those games Webb played i think he looked alot better than what we have gotten out of Ponder this year.

  413. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    PAY PERCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  414. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Yes children…. QBs that get paid millions…. those are the same thing

  415. By Shawn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

  416. By Shawn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

  417. By Nicholas on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I think that it is safe to say that Ponder is having some issues.

    I think Ponder would be a great backup to whomever the future Vikings Franchise QB may be.

    Spielman, please continue a good draft process. I’ll give you a pass on Ponder only because you weren’t GM @ the time.

  418. By Shawn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    WTF .. is that Chad Johnson ??? Watching Ponder depresses us all but calm down.

  419. By novascotiavike on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Wobschall,go to a bar and do the “Sprinkler”.

    I’m sure that you’ll meet someone “beastly”.

  420. By puckertrucker on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    To The OWNERS of The Vikings: Mr. Wilf what is it going to take for you to wake up and fire L. Frazier he has got to be the worst Head Coach in Vikings History and that includes Les Steckel. Frazier does not even try another QB but insists on keeping Ponder in the Game even after he proves he’s ineffective. you should bench Ponder and Get rid of your Lousy Head Coach and his Coaching Staff and Try to hire Chip Kelly from the Oregon Ducks. He’s a great Coach and has a proven Winning Record Just Check his Stats out for your self. But please before this Franchise goes completely in the toilet get new Coaches or at least put Ponder on the Bench. The One and Only PuckerTrucker!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Skoal Fans

  421. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    THE WALKER TRADE WAS ALMOST AS BAD AS PICKING PONDER #12

  422. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    WHAT DID YOU EXPECT, FRAZIER IS PART OF THE CHILDRESS CLAN. YOU HAVE TO CLEAN HOUSE WHEN YOU FIRE A HEAD COACH

  423. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    It’s annoying that we are even quoting this as a hundred yard game for Ponder. It was a 30 yard 2 INT game until GB went completely soft when the game was already done.

  424. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    PONDER IS GOING TO RUIN THE NEW STADIUM DEAL!!!!!!!

  425. By Mark B on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Vlad – funny how that just because I don’t agree with you I don’t know what I’m talking about. Was Wright “NFL open” a few times today? Yup. So was AP and Ponder missed that throw. But with the throwing windows being as small as they are in the NFL, it requires a certain amount of trust in the receiver to make a play. Who, outside of Rudolph, Harvin, and AP have consistently made those plays?

    I have said it before, and I guess it needs to be repeated – I’m not so much supporting Ponder as I am trying to point out that the can’t bear all the blame. There are more players on the field than a QB, a RB, a TE, and one WR (who happens to be injured right now). Without at least a serviceable supporting cast (see the rest of the receiving corp and at LEAST a new LG) this offense will continue to struggle passing the ball.

  426. By Nicholas on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Needs: First and foremost – WR…good lord…depleted is an understatement.

    DT, OG, MLB.

    Another CB to complement Cook or Robinson would be great,too, seeing how Cook is injury prone.

  427. By Tom on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder sucks!!! Good bye Vikings and their playoff hopes! Ponder is so smart in all his testing…too ad he sucks at the important aspects of the game like accuracy and reading defenses, and wearing down your running back by having to always hand the ball off to him because you can’t throw.
    Deer in headlights…
    Vikings will not win another game, but at least they may be able to get a professional quarterback instead of a pathetic excuse for one.
    And all of you pretend fans out there saying it isn’t Ponders fault, take up a new sport like field hockey because you have no clue about professional football.

  428. By David P on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I am not defending anyone but Peyton Manning would not win with the jokes the vikings have at receiver. The two INT today were Ponder’s fault but the receivers did nothing until the game was over. The VIKINGS are a JOKE. How many first downs did GB get with 3rd and long? TOO MANY. AP is the present day version of Barry Sanders. A great player on a team of nobodies. I still stand by my prediction 6-11. All the way baby.

  429. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    TRADE UP IN NEXT YEARS DRAFT FOR A NEW QB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  430. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I WOULD SAY PONDER CLEARLY THE #32 STARTING QB IN THE LEAGUE

  431. By Mike B. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    @David P That’s 6-10. The team is already over my prediction of 5-11 so I am pleasantly surprised.

  432. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    What will be Wobbles spin now? AD rushes for 210 yards in nail biter!

  433. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Manning would have our WR going to the pro bowl are you kidding me. Do you know what he could do with play action with AD? It’s not even funny.

  434. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B., you never even played the game, your opinion means nothing

  435. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    we would be 12-0 with Manning right now

  436. By animal26 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Wouldn’t be worth it Ponder aka 3 and out. The QB class this year is very weak. only person worth taking in the first round would be that Geno smith (not sure if I spelled his name correctly) The VIkings might as well just try and get a receiver, left guard, Middle linebacker, corner, and a tightend this off-season in free agency or the draft. Then in the following years draft, try and see if there is a QB worth getting.

  437. By Mike B. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    as does yours sir absolutely nothing

  438. By chris b on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    ponder blows he has all year. he is getting worse every week

  439. By animal26 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Or like many of us have been saying. Give Joe Webb a chance to see if he’s improved or not.

  440. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Mike it’s okay that you are still in denial. Shawn was until today. Eventually you will get it.

  441. By Nicholas on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I’m also super impressed with our improvement from last year with just one draft. Our free agency splash obviously hasn’t done a whole lot…so yes…I definitely say it was the draft.

    How does next years QB class look?

  442. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    By Shawn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply
    Ponder should be cut after right now … Im done.
    Parkway and ponder aka3,000,000,000 IQ …. YOU WIN !!!!
    I will not defend Ponder this week

  443. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    at least i know what i’m talking about, your talking out of your a sss

  444. By Shawn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    We would be 12-0 with Batman, Superman, and Flash.

    Some things people say are so stupid.

    Hey look at me I can say crazy things. If the Vikings had the NFC pro bowl roster we would be so good.

  445. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    your the last one that should be here Shawn, I Diot

  446. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    If the Vikings played tomorrow they would be 6-5.

  447. By Shawn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    ponder aka 3 wouldnt we be amazing with Pierre Garcon, Vincent Jackson, Peyton Manning, and Brandon Carr?

  448. By Shawn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    ponder aka 3 … what if we got RG3, traded for Andre Johnson, and signed Pierre Garcon. We would be awesome.

  449. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Steelers 3rd string QB outplaying Ponder against a much better D, maybe we can swap.

  450. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    today just proved your clueless Shawn, surprised you had the nerve to show up here

  451. By Shawn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    what i cant even agree with you ponder aka 3?

    i agree if we got Peyton Manning, Vincent Jackson, Brandon Carr, and 3 more pro bowlers we would be really good

  452. By Shawn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    i have been here all day … you just cant read.

  453. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    don’t go away mad Shawn, just go away

  454. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    everyone thinks your a joke

  455. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Only fools would not have seen Shawn.

  456. By chris on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    when is the coaching staff share what they are soming about ponder he sucks bad my 91 gradma can play better .
    they said this is his frist full year and understand that but rookies this year like giffin th 3 is playing betterand even backs ups play better and you all can say what u guys u want but if i was the owners i would tell them a pice or to like do ur coaching better and beanch ponder until he gets it together.
    a high school looks better

  457. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder aka 3 is the old firedchildress poster— just a whiner.

  458. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    My draft, without a QB, would be:

    1st Round: Trade down for Keenan Allen/Justin Hunter (WR) for extra 2nd round
    2nd Round: Trade up for Jordan Poyer (CB) for extra 4th
    2nd Round: Sylvester Williams (DT)
    3rd Round: Kevin Minter (ILB)
    4th Round: Best OG Available

  459. By Shawn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    aww ponder aka 3 im so hurt. your opinion means so much to me …

  460. By Spencer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    At least Josh Robison never gets beat deep

  461. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Oh and Mathieu if he’s available anywhere 5-7

  462. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    And I keep saying Mike B or Mark B, whichever keeps on this futile argument, Good players make those around them better…. If Ponder can’t SEE the open receiver,a nd that is “NFL OPEN” or Ponder open, meaning you could drive a truck around the guy – NOT seeing the open reciever is his FIRST problem of many…

    Ponder does NOT make his guys better, he makes them moot… He is futility in cleats

  463. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    just make sure ap gets 140 yards per game the last 4 games, seasons over anyway

  464. By Vikings101 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    During the off-season……..

    Trade for……

    RYAN MALLETT

  465. By Nicholas on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Here is my draft:

    1. BPA in terms of WR, DT, OG, MLB
    2. BPA in terms of WR, DT, OG, MLB
    3. BPA in terms of WR, DT, OG, MLB (or CB)
    4. BPA in terms of WR, DT, OG, MLB

  466. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    cut Ponder and make him the new waterboy

  467. By Tomcat on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    aka the lout– You are starting to get annoying. Put a sock in it.

  468. By Shawn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    i agree vikings101 … ryan mallett … i think Spencer was with me in the Mallet draft about drafting Mallet

  469. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Scouting report on Ponder coming out of college:

    Pros

    All around good athlete
    Extremely accurate on short, intermediate routes
    Great timing. Does a very good job hitting right out of their breaks on shorter routes
    Quick feet, and has good footwork
    Very quick, and sharp release
    Has experience dropping back from center
    Battle tested. Started for 3 years in ACC

    Cons

    Arm strength is mediocre at best
    Not precise on p@sses over 15 yards. Throws a bad deep ball
    If first receiver is not open, he immediately takes off or dumps it down. Bad pocket presence
    Injuries and durability are a concern. Has had a concussion, had elbow surgery and a separated shoulder
    Floats the ball too much. Cannot fit the ball into tight spaces
    Really takes time to load up on long p@sses

    Overall

    Christian Ponder is vastly overrated, and I really know why he is viewed as a late first, to early second round prospect. If you are looking for a solid backup, and someone who can play a couple games a year and not be a total train wreck, then Ponder would be a fit. But if you are looking for a QB to be the starter, let alone “The Man” do not take this guy. His arm strength is bad, and he just does not have the ability to zip a ball in down the field with any type of coverage on a receiver. He throws a bad deep ball, and cannot fit the ball into tight spaces. Also, if his #1 receiver is not open right away, he immediately looks to dump it down, or take off running, and does not handle pocket pressure well. He does do a good job with his short routes, and has good timing underneath, but he is not a guy with the ability to go out and make a big time throw and win big games. I wouldn’t take him any earlier than the 5th or 6th round, but many people seem to think he has the “Intangibles” and some team will take him as their starter, and they will be disappointed.

    Couldn’t be any more true. He hasn’t changed at all or improved at all.

  470. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Oh except he’s not good on short routes anymore either.

  471. By novascotiavike on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Passing CP/AT YDS TD INT
    C. Ponder 12/25 119 1 2
    Rushing CAR YDS TD LG
    A. Peterson 21 210 1 82T….

  472. By Vikings101 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I will admit I liked Ponder coming into the draft but I did like Mallett more. He is amazing

  473. By chris b on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    we would be better off with charlie batch. Hes playing better then sponder did today.

  474. By Ponder's fault on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Cant say Jared Allen didnt show up.

  475. By Nicholas on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I’m done with Ponder as well. He just isn’t a starting NFL QB. I would love to see him holding a clipboard.

  476. By Tomcat on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    It may better to see what vets are out there before drafting a receiver too high.Witness Troy Williamson.

  477. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway, email that to Frazier asap.

  478. By Bigfan1 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe it’s the management, who the blank knows I along with 50,000 fans are tired of trying to think up reasons why the Vikings are so bad.

  479. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I agree Mallet will be the best QB out of the 2011 class, he gets to learn behind brady for 4 years, no way NE is giving him up.

  480. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Noodle Arm

  481. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    tdade off the #1 pick for Brady

  482. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    trade

  483. By Spencer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Correct Shawn, I was all over Ryan Mallett.

  484. By Vikings101 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    TRADE FOR RYAN MALLETT!!!

  485. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Please tell me, what was there to like about Ponder coming out of the draft?

    Simply playing in ACC is not enough. You must know how to play the position, and maintain a pocket presence and throw accurately….. Ponder does none of that.

  486. By Nicholas on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I was all over Andy Dalton. I wanted Dalton in Purple.

  487. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Spielman made a big mistake

  488. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Kirk Cousins?

  489. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    “but he is not a guy with the ability to go out and make a big time throw and win big games. I wouldn’t take him any earlier than the 5th or 6th round, but many people seem to think he has the “Intangibles” and some team will take him as their starter, and they will be disappointed.”

  490. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    i liked Dalton too

  491. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Speilman made a cataclysmic mistake, but Frazier continually makes the same one… I have lost any faith in Frazier.

  492. By preeno on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    You can blame the QB or the WRs for how bad our passing game has been, but it honestly looks like they are both to blame. 210 rushing yards by AD and Ponder only had like 32 passing yards without a completion to an actual WR until the last few minutes of the game, how does that even happen in the nfl?

  493. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway, this draft report is dead on… certainly isn’t the Vikes report.. whose is it? Hire THAT guy as our GM or lead scout.

    Ponder makes a good high school QB, but he’d still lose in States.

  494. By Rush on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Go get Matt Flynn, or Smith from 9ers FN PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  495. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    drafting Ponder will end up being about a 5 year mistake, he wasted 2 years already, now we have to give up a whole draft to find another qb

  496. By Vikings101 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Id give Jimmy Clausen the nod over Ponder right now if I had to chose one to win me a game

  497. By Mike B. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    As a fan of this team for 45 years, I am as disappointed as everyone else is about the team losing. But this will not be the last game they will lose. I decided this summer to give Frazier this year to improve the team. He has made some improvement in the team. I think that Ponder is the best QB of the 3 we have right now. If it was only Ponder’s play that caused the losses of these games I would be right with the rest of you asking for change. This is not the case. We are not playing our best football each game as a team. One exception of coarse and today shows you can’t win a game with one player. There was plenty of mistakes to go around today including QB mistakes. The OL is still not where they need to be with the p@ss rush. The defensive line had how many offsides calls? How many tackles were missed today? As Fred says this is a team sport and you win or lose as a team. I am hoping the team can turn it around, but I don’t think changing QBs to the two other guys we have will accomplish any more wins.

  498. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Monte Kiffen?

  499. By Go Vikes on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    New GM, new OC, new QB. Oh, get rid of Carlson and pay Percy.

  500. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    picking up a good qb from another team will be impossible. we will end up with someone’s backup

  501. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I like Spielman

  502. By Nicholas on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ugh, this team and its QBs………

  503. By Rush on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    So we r down by 9 with about 1:20 left and we fair catch a punt??? WHAT I guess we thought Ponder was going to drive us 70 yrds for a score, Good God!!!

  504. By Vikings101 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Someones backup…………… Ryan Mallett!

  505. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    next year the team has to go 1-15 to pick up #1 overall. if Ponder is still here, that could happen

  506. By Shawn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    By Shawn on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply
    Wow I just watched that Matt Flynn vid …. WHAT IS THE HYPE? HE IS A BACK UP!!!!
    I saw maybe 3 good throws and everything else was a dump off pass to a RB or 3 yard pass to a TE …. PLEASE DO NOT GET MATT FLYNN !!!!!!!!!!!!
    People talented recievers around a back up qb can make a qb look better. Matt Flynn is and always will be a back up.
    Matt Flynn is TJack without the speed !!!!
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOO MATT FLYNN !!!!!!!!!!!!

  507. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    That or the Vikes were just too blown away by his “intangibles”. I agree that I would not have spent more than a 6th round on him as a 2nd or 3rd string QB

  508. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    New England will give up Brady before Ryan

  509. By Old School on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Last post of the season!

    Everyone have a great X-Mas and a Happy New Year!

    If Ponder is not benched I’m done till he is!

  510. By Mike B. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    LOl we could tryout Vince Young he’s at home watching TV today.

  511. By Go Vikes on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    For those of you who think RS is a good GM, I feel sorry for you. Like I said before, anyone with a 3rd pick in the draft should have a good draft.

  512. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    have fun old school

  513. By Mike B. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Enjoy your holidays Old School

  514. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    if it wasn’t for AD, i wouldn’t watch the games at all

  515. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    hope he gets over 2,000 yards

  516. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    @Go Vikes

    So you are saying this years’s draft was bad?

  517. By A.D.A.P on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Get Matt Flynn !!!!

  518. By goldeneagle on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I’m sure the Packers are all enjoying some beer and cheese right now and are thinking “If we just beat these guys with this group of rag tags–when we go to Minnesota we will win by 42!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

  519. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Trade for Philip Rivers.

  520. By Tomcat on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Hear ya Mike B. I have followed Vikes since `65. Seen the ebb and flow. This team has a chance to be special maybe next year. There are a few missing pieces, but Rome wasn`t built in a day. Skol!

  521. By Vikings101 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    NE wouldnt, at this point in time, give up Brady before Mallett. Brady could easily have 4 more solid years and then some. He is an iconic franchise player that will stick around a little while longer. Why not get a 2nd and a 7th for Mallett and still have 4 years to groom another QB behind Brady?

    Go get Mallett!

  522. By Vikes4life06 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    FOR ALL OF YOU PONDER APOLOGISTS

  523. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    You can’t fix a weak arm sorry all the hoping isn’t going to change it. It was a reach and I’m not sure it was all Spielman’s fault since he was only the VP of football operations then not the GM and didn’t have free reign to do whatever he wanted.

  524. By Erik the Red on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Did anyone else watch Ponder’s postgame presser? Love how he was listing people who still supported him, and how he didn’t mention the fans.

  525. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Spielman needs to clean house. Plain and simple.

  526. By Nicholas on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I now agree with Spencer’s comment: “Christian Ponder’s ceiling is Mark Sanchez in his “prime.””

  527. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Its hard to watch Ponder. An arm only a mother can love.

  528. By lance on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I really personally wish we can grab up Gannon in the draft! but I doubt we will be high enough :(

  529. By Go Vikes on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    @GDP. My wife who doesn’t understand football could have had a good draft with the 3rd pick. If I told her we need a WR, OL, S, CB, DB for starters and showed her the the top picks in the draft from all the scouts and talking heads, she could have picked a similar draft. GDP, other then the draft, tell me what other decisions he made that you could say were good decisions?

  530. By BlueBird7 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I will just wait untill Mike Wobschall comes on here tomorrow with his remarks.

    And pour his bucket of syrup all over Ponder, Jefferson, and some of the others.

  531. By Vikings101 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Go after RYAN MALLETT!!!

  532. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    v101, that’s a nice dream but they won’t give up their next T Brady of the future

  533. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    GV, I thought Spielman had a good draft, I would have probably chose Claiborne over Kalil, but just absolutely terrible FA…

  534. By lance on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    woah I meant Glennon sheesh

  535. By rocksalt on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Poner is as effective as the right wingnut looneyrepublican agenda

  536. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    @Go Vikes. You mean other than the draft that was Spielman’s first as GM? The same draft that will most likely have 2 All-Pro players this year? Those are the type of drafts that build winning teams.

  537. By QB on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I’ve about had it with Ponder, the boy plays nfl football like he’s on a field the size of an arena football field. It’s like trying to make a full golf swing in phone booth.

    I would rather see Webb at this point. If nothing else, he’s a better runner.

    Please make a change at QB.

  538. By CaribooBill on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I notice Frazier’s post-game presser hasn’t been posted. Did he give one?
    I think the coaches don’t have a good game sense. We are at second and six from the 8 yard line after the “Beast” has ripped off a 48 yard run and a 4 yard run. The Packers were rocked and we call a pass! Dumb! WHY NOT POUND THE ROCK?????????? I think we’re done for this year.

  539. By rocksalt on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    PONDER YOU SUK PERIOD GO FIND ANOTHER PROFESSION

  540. By lance on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=8&c=1&nid=2999492

    Well I am not sure where we might fall in the draft but this guy is the only QB I hope we can draft if we do choose to

  541. By paVikesfan on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe we could pick Alex Smith and Randy Moss from SF

  542. By wacky on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder….. run to the staitum tell coach num, n-u-t-s and ziggy thanks for everything and pull out your .45 and b-l-o-w your b-r-a-i-n-s out, please!!!!!!!!!

  543. By CaribooBill on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Wacky – that is not appropriate, given yesterday’s events.

  544. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier needs to go. He is the reason Ponder is even here.

  545. By MasterMindX on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Get rid of noodle arm, aromasuck, Mr. Vetren jenkin and start Summer, Simpson, Wright and Harvin.

    Good news: Greg Jennings gonna be FA this offseason, and pack might not sign him again.

    Bad news: Ponder still gonna start and he will have one catch for ten yards per game, with the rest of the attempt five yards behind Jenning.

    Good news: AP and Harvin are the Hulk and beast

    Bad News: With Ponder and the rest of the WR core, they will never get the taste of a superbowl.

  546. By QB on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    cariboobill, Another poor coaching decision was not putting AP in the game on the last drive of the first half. I know he just ran 82 yards in the prior series but GB had the ball for a few plays to rest up. Besides, they don’t call him All Day for nothing.

  547. By CaribooBill on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    QB – I totally agree.

  548. By Nicholas on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Good News: This is all speculation.

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  550. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I’ve never seen a long pass die off as fast as the pass to Peterson did.

  551. By Mark B on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Another thing to remember – all three of the Vikings threats (Harvin, AP and to a somewhat lesser extent Rudolph) work best in the center of the field. It makes it that much easier on the defense to combat those threats.

    Like I said – if the passing game remains this bad with a prototypical outside receiver that can consistently beat man coverage – like what the Pack did pretty much all game today – I’ll readily admit that Ponder isn’t the answer at QB. But until that point I’m not willing to pin all the passing woes solely on him.

    I know it’s not a completely fair comparison, but look at Alex Smith. He was selected first overall and didn’t really have a good season until this year (and now apparently has been replaced by Kaepernick). But prior to the concussion and benching he was the fifth rated passer in the league.

    In my opinion, the early year success has artificially raised expectations. This is still a young team in the middle of a rebuilding process that Spielman has said will come mostly through the draft. Most pundits coming into this year said that 6-10 was about the best case scenario for the Vikings. Do I expect more, as a fan yes I do. But let’s keep this in perspective (stats listed are for the second year only, Ponder’s will be what he is on pace for):

    Aikman: 56.6% completion for 2,579 yards (6.5 yards per completion), 11 TDs, 18 INTs
    Young: 53.7% completion for 2,282 yards (6.3 yards per completion), 8 TDs, 13 INTs
    Eli Manning: 52.8% completion for 3,762 yards (6.8 yards per completion), 24 TDs, 17 INTs
    Alex Smith: 58.1% completion for 2,890 yards (6.5 yards per completion), 16 TDs, 16 INTs
    Tom Brady: 63.9% completion for 2,843 yards (6.9 yards per completion), 18 TDs, 12 INTs
    Drew Brees: 60.8% completion for 3,284 yards (6.2 yards per completion), 17 TDs, 16 INTs
    Christian Ponder: 62.5% completion for 3,073 yards (6.0 yards per completion), 18 TDs, 14 INTs

    I realize it’s not a very in depth comparison but Ponder compares relatively well to 2 current HOF QBs, two future HOF QBs (Brady and Brees), a 2 time Super Bowl winning QB and the fifth rated passer in the NFL this year.

  552. By paVikesfan on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Watching Steelers vs Ravens . Steelers Wallace had to come out Plaxico Burress came in. Announcers said this was the first time he’s been in since returning to nfl. Maybe zig could trade for him.

  553. By wacky on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    @Cariboobill. L-I-C-K MY N-U-T-S !!!!!! WE KNOW U WANT TOO!!

  554. By VA Vike Fan on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier won’t bench Ponder folks..he’s too much of a players coach to sit a guy down. He believes in everybody on this joke team

  555. By die hard 67 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway your’e an idiot Claiborne is average and Kalil is a freaking beast !! Most fans on this blog are clueless ,and a bunch of whiney fair weather fans… Ponder needs weapons at wr , and the entire offensive coaching staff are wrecking this kid. He has talent , but has lost all confidence in himself and everyone around him ……

  556. By Jeffbleedspurple on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is garbage! At least he has the nuts to admit that he lost us the game, AGAIN! single man coverage, 200+ yards by Peterson and the WR’s and Ponder can’t do jack.

  557. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    and what’s gotten into blair walsh these last few weeks….cause for concern?

  558. By VA Vike Fan on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    The better actually lost today b/c of one man’s poor qb play..it’s SICKENING!!!

  559. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Glennon does look good.

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  561. By VA Vike Fan on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    What would we be had we gone after Peyton Manning?! smh

  562. By Don Good on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I find it hard to believe that our Coach Frazier, who played in the NFL , Can stand by week after week and watch this kind of performance from this useless QB, And especially today, there were several shots of him on the sideline, after both Ponders Blunders. And he had this look, like I gotta do something, but he did not, and now Im starting to think, that he CAN”T make a change per the GM. That can be the only reason why he could let another AP smash mouth leading rushing performance go to waist. How can he even look AP in the eye. SERIOUSLY!!!!
    And how come every week at the Post Presser, While Ponder is making his usual (I Got To Play Better, Broken Record) These guys dont ask him, why do you suck every week., How can you look at your teammates after another game you lost. And how many more game should they let you play before they give you your Outright Release. Dont worry, You and Frazier will go out together.

  563. By James on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    So again, are we going to see ponder benched???? Wob and the coaches need to stop riding ponders nuts! The wilf needs to do us fan a favor and fire Frazier and cut ponder! Ponder can’t even hit open wrs!

  564. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    die hard 67….I’m open minded….what are Ponders talents that you have seen that the rest of us haven’t?

  565. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Die Hard: Kalil is a good OT, but you don’t waste a top ten pick on an OT. And have fun being in denial about Ponder. He doesn’t have the physical talent to be anything more than he is right now. He can’t throw past 10 yards.

  566. By die hard 67 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    fair weather fans.. Bunch of negative crybabies. ………..

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  568. By VA Vike Fan on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Don’t throw stats in our faces..He’s regressing point blank PERIOD. He’s been losing us games since Oct. NO excuse to be 6-6 after how well AP has been running the football. Hopefully Vick will be a Viking next yr. Ponder can be his backup

  569. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    die hard 67……tell us fair weather fans the positives that you see that no one else sees?

  570. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Really we should have Pouncey or Nate Soldier but we settled for Ponder.

  571. By chris b on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    ponder had a 3.1 qbr today he has had a qbr of lower than 20 in 5 of his last 6 games. But we are sticking with him

  572. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    We also should have Mike Tomlin

  573. By VA Vike Fan on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Nobody is fairweather, we just know bad football when we see it and we’re tired of it. Any Viking fan still here today can be called a lot of things but fairweather is NOT 1 of em. We’ve been subjected to YEARS of disappointment smh

  574. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    wacky, that post of yours could end up costing you — seriously, that is crossing some borders— so take your postings and keep them on the Packer site, or we will report you to the authorities.

  575. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    People are pretty stupid posting anything on the Internet.

  576. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Forever cemented for public view. Stupid.

  577. By Spencer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

  578. By animal26 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    did Frazier do a press conference after the game?

  579. By die hard 67 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder has plenty of arm strength to be succesful in this league . He has no weapons , no confidence , no coaching, and no direction from anyone in the organization, He has played 5 or 6 really good games so I KNOW HE’S CAPABLE BUT the entire team other than Peterson and the secondary seem to be regressing , and that is all coaching period,,,,,,,,,

  580. By Nicholas on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I’ll bring this back:

    LESLIE FRAZIER FOR DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR!!!!!!!!!!!

  581. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    die hard 67…..where was the arm strength on the pass to pederson?

  582. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I’d take my chances with Landry Jones, Tyler Bray, or Mike Glennon in the 2-3 rounds. I don’t think we could trade up for Geno and I definitely wouldn’t want Barkley in the first.

  583. By QB on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I’ve tried and tried to like Ponder, but it is hard.

    First, I think he has a problem seeing the field. He’s not the tallest qb and he seems reluctant to step up in the pocket to throw the ball.

    Second, he doesn’t really seem to be a leader. Look at Luck and some other of these younger qbs going up the sideline trying to pump up players on offense and defense.

    Third, he as a serious problem running out of the pocket, both left and right, squaring his shoulders to throw down field.

    Finally, he lofts the ball way to much in the red zone will he needs to drill it.

  584. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    did you guys hear Paul Charchien after the game on fox9?

  585. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    QB – thank you.

  586. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Scouting report on Ponder coming out of college:
    Pros
    All around good athlete
    Extremely accurate on short, intermediate routes
    Great timing. Does a very good job hitting right out of their breaks on shorter routes
    Quick feet, and has good footwork
    Very quick, and sharp release
    Has experience dropping back from center
    Battle tested. Started for 3 years in ACC
    Cons
    Arm strength is mediocre at best
    Not precise on p@sses over 15 yards. Throws a bad deep ball
    If first receiver is not open, he immediately takes off or dumps it down. Bad pocket presence
    Injuries and durability are a concern. Has had a concussion, had elbow surgery and a separated shoulder
    Floats the ball too much. Cannot fit the ball into tight spaces
    Really takes time to load up on long p@sses
    Overall
    Christian Ponder is vastly overrated, and I really know why he is viewed as a late first, to early second round prospect. If you are looking for a solid backup, and someone who can play a couple games a year and not be a total train wreck, then Ponder would be a fit. But if you are looking for a QB to be the starter, let alone “The Man” do not take this guy. His arm strength is bad, and he just does not have the ability to zip a ball in down the field with any type of coverage on a receiver. He throws a bad deep ball, and cannot fit the ball into tight spaces. Also, if his #1 receiver is not open right away, he immediately looks to dump it down, or take off running, and does not handle pocket pressure well. He does do a good job with his short routes, and has good timing underneath, but he is not a guy with the ability to go out and make a big time throw and win big games. I wouldn’t take him any earlier than the 5th or 6th round, but many people seem to think he has the “Intangibles” and some team will take him as their starter, and they will be disappointed.

    Couldn’t be any more true. He hasn’t improved at all but has regressed on short throws.

  587. By lance on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Id take Mike Glennon. But I feel with so many QB needy teams again he may go in the first! much like with what tannehill did last year. His stock has been rising as well. I think NFL.com posted him as second or third best QB in draft according to their scouts

  588. By Mark B on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    VIKE FAN – you sound a little like the Republican’s in this year’s Presidential election … we won’t let our campaign be run by fact checkers. I’ll agree that there is no reason to be 6-6, but again, I’m not willing to hang the blame for the losses on the QB alone. Johnson has been a revolving door at LG, at times the defense takes bad pursuit angles (see the rushing TD they gave up today), the DL at times disappears, and outside of Harvin, AP, and Rudolph there aren’t any meaningful players on offense (although Wright is well on his way). I was simply showing that while the QB play at times looks ugly, it’s about on par to what one SHOULD expect out of a second year QB that was put in a little too early. Heck, even Rodgers first year starting wasn’t always pretty. If the Vikes had a deeper receiving corp and the outcomes were the same in the passing game, I would be right there with you calling for Ponder’s benching – let him finish out the year and then look at the season as a whole and evaluate then.

    Pulling him for the rest of the season, while POSSIBLY leading to more wins (let’s face it, it’s not like we have Brady or Brees as a backup – Webb is physically gifted but his accuracy leaves a lot to be desired) that backup QB would still have the same OL allowing pressure in his face and the mediocre receiving corp to throw to.

  589. By lance on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000087375/article/nc-state-quarterback-mike-glennon-set-to-climb-draft-boards

  590. By QB on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Your welcome oldtimer, and I too am no spring chicken.

  591. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    The leaders in Passing, Rushing, Receiving, Tackling, and Interceptions are all from the NFC North.

  592. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    QB….I bet we’ve both watched a lot of football over the years.

  593. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Hot off the presses, Ponder has arm strength…. There isn’t anything you could say after such a thing….. The WORLD knows he can’t throw the long ball (arm strength) and he can’t fit a bullet in the small spaces necessary at the NFL level (arm strength) and his only high percentage performance is in the 6 and under range…. (arm strength)….. Ponder has a high schooler’s arm.

    Not hard to see that, but probably harder to live in denial….

  594. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    QB – the only viking games I’ve ever missed were during my time in viet nam.

  595. By realviking on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Its obvious that writing on here doesn’t do anything Mike Wobs believes Ponder is good. No one reads these other then us, its time for us to start calling the radio station to let pour voices be heard if we want change.

    Ponder sucks but our idiot coach ignores it fire Frazier and bench Ponder.
    I’m calling the radio station so they can hear how frustrated I am right now

  596. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    It’s very likely he could lance and we would probably be in a good position to get him in the first….. but it would really be a sad day to take a QB in the first round in 2 out of 3 drafts. (but only stubborn people like our coaching staff would think like that right?)

  597. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    realviking – lets start a petition.

  598. By chris b on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    frazier had a presser think its on here if you click on videos

  599. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    its too bad that we have to start thinking about the draft this soon.

  600. By john 61 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    ponder i was for,not no more that was the game he throws away,we need a new O C bad,this is sad to see ad run like this a we cant find a reciver till the end of game what a waste of the best back everMR.W step in and get rid of this bs coach,and who steps in your way,

  601. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    So the logic is leave the inaccurate QB in there despite his inaccuracy, and don’t play the guy from the bench because according to the 3 games he has started in a young career he is considered inaccurate…

    No, not for me. This is a competition to win the game now, and if you learn to win THIS game, you will be better and more proficient at winning the NEXT game… but allowing mediocrity you have TAUGHT your team how to accept mediocrity (and let’s face it, Ponder has been MUCH worse than mediocre)

    Long and short of it, you put guys who can compete…. Ponder can’t

  602. By Shawn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

  603. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder should write a book, “99 different ways to lose a football game”

  604. By die hard 67 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    On the pass to Peterson he didn’t set his feet and you could see that he did’nt let it rip with confidence , he can make that throw in his sleep, but the man has no confidence . He looked like he was playing with a little swag right up till he threw the int in the end zone. He is to worried with making mistakes which is making him think and second guess himself way to much. We need to let him just play aggressive football and let him develop knowing he is going to make mistakes, but until we keep micro managing everything this kid does nothing gonna change.We are always playing not lose instead of playing to win and that is exactly how Ponder looks to me ,and that is because of poor leadership from are coaching staff..Ponder is talented………. no question in my mind……..

  605. By Mark B on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Wanna quote scouting reports?

    Who’s was this:
    Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader.

    Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you’d like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can’t drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own.

  606. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Green bay fans at work going to rub the ponder jokes in, sheesh

  607. By habs001 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is playing poorly…when on the rare time a wr is open he misses the throw….the wr have limited abilities to beat coverage and per comment on sport radio earlier today the Vikings wr have the reputation of easiest to cover in the nfl….the defense cannot stop key 3rd down plays when it is needed…this issue has been ongoing for years… The Vikings just cannot win on the road beyond once to two times a year…

  608. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    ipetitions.com, change.org…. anyone start one yet or should I? Can we get 70k to sign by next sunday?

  609. By Shawn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder has 99 problems but a b!tch aint one

  610. By lance on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway I agree :( I dislike taking a QB in the first as well this fast. However, I think the vikings have proven we are only one piece short of this puzzle. I have no doubt an upgrade at QB, Another good WR and some depth at OL we could be in position not just for playoffs but a run at a superbowl. Even without cook right now… our defence is solid enough… we have a great TE and the best RB.

    Id like to think after this next draft weather we take a qb or not. We are not in rebuilding anymore but division champs again.

  611. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    parkway….lets see how many we can get on the petition- maybe it will make the news!

  612. By DrinkHeavy on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I’m not shocked at all by what this team does or fails to do on any given Sunday..What did you guys expect? This is a young team in a very competitive division led by a group of unproven NFL coaches…if they can’t find a way to get production in the passing game with Ponder or find someone else to play QB who can get the team in the end zone..and if they can’t find a way to stop other teams on 3rd and long..and if they can’t find a way to stop the run and get to the opposing QB in the 4th qtr.. well then, hopefully Zig and Spielman will find a group of coaches and players that can.

    Go Vikes

  613. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    does it take a empty stadium to get rid of Ponder?

  614. By die hard 67 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Mark did you see Tom Brady’s college combine?? Enough said………….

  615. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Wait till the next home game– poor Ponder. He will be boooooed home.

  616. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Good players raise the game of those around them…. What is happening to the guys around Ponder?

  617. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    i hope Speilman realizes Ponder is not the answer, Vikings fans will not stand for decades of bad games like Kansas City does

  618. By Spencer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Titus, would you boo Ponder?

  619. By oldtimer on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    it will be interesting next week if Ponder has another bad game…..in a way i feel sorry for him…..frazier should show him some mercy by at least resting him for a game.

  620. By Nicholas on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder obtained his masters degree in no time. Reason: he had to have a back-up plan for his noodle arm.

  621. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Good QBs know how to “throw a guy open”… the back shoulder throw is great example, placing the ball well is an innate talent, and you have to have the intangible to get it done. Ponder throws in general directions, with little hope and little confidence…. You want to really keep running that guy out there??? Give me a mad hatter who wants to win on every play he takes a snap! Guy who will spread the ball around, play with his eyes and not just “wanting to throw to his favorite guy”… Ponder lacks about every tangible and intangible necessary to be good – never mind great. He might be great at Trivial Pursuits, but surely NOT NFL QB.

  622. By die hard 67 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Really ? Have you been watching the same receiving corp. as I have .. When the actually do get open which is rare Ponder gets soexcited that some one is actually open he rushes the throw which results in a bad pass or when he does make a good pass they usuall dropit ,,STOP IT………………………… VLAD

  623. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder will be completely out of football by 2016. he will get beat out for 3rd string

  624. By vikesfaninchgo on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    oh, I feel soooooooooooooooo sorry for AP. 210 yards and we can’t win the game? Come on! Heartbroken, but not giving up in Chicago.

  625. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ha I cannot believe there is still a Ponder supporter left. Must not watch the games.

  626. By die hard 67 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    REALLY aka as dumbarse………….

  627. By Ekolu on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Im totally disgusted. I just can’t see how a team can totally dominate the Run game and lose

  628. By TC612 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is garbage, point blank. He’s pretty much drove this season into the ground. We need a good game manager at least to feed off of AP’s success. This dude is just painful to watch. Next week at halftime when his stats are about 6 for 13, 45 yards and a INT and I don’t see Webb behind center to start the 3rd quarter I’m seriously gonna turn the f#ckin T.V off.

  629. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    die hard is 67 years old and brain d ead

  630. By habs001 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    The Vikings are not a a couple of players away from the sb…there are many more upgrades needed on this team…this is not an expansion team and fans should show a lot more knowledge of personal in the league…

  631. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    your a joke die hard

  632. By vikingbob136 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I miss Sage Rosenfels!

  633. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Forget it die hard, no defense for Ponder. Like him all you want, but all this talk about guys not getting open is ridiculous, watch this game with stop action, a gamefilm study, Ponder can’t SEE the open guy cause he is already decided where he wants to go with it.

    No, not stopping, because my football team is dying because we do not have a leader nor a talent at the most important position on the field.

  634. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    If I had to do the draft with a QB:

    1st Round: Jones/Bray/Glennon
    2nd Round: Rogers/Patterson (WR)
    3rd Round: Minter (ILB)
    4th Round: Best OG/DT

    Then there are a few good CB FAs this coming offseason that we should pick up at least one.

  635. By Ekolu on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    And now this banner is in the way of me writing my opinion. Im completely befuddled, we have the best RB ever and his window is closing. I actually like Ponder, but he has to start playing better. In all fairness this is really his rookie seson continued I demand accountability!

  636. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    i could see us going on a big losing streak with Ponder, similiar to the Tampa Bay expansion team

  637. By die hard 67 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I watch all the games and realize like everyone else that he has to get better,but so doesEVERYBODY ELSE. Istill believe he will be a very good qb , but it takes time, be patient all you instant gratification fairweather fans……

  638. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder had enough time, die f art

  639. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    HA! Fairweather fan??? I have been watching them win or lose since 1964…. But I DO have an eye for the game and a mind to go along with it. I don’t watch a game with my heart alone. Ponder is in the most important spot on the field, and he doesnt instill confidence in anybody, and he makes people worse than they are in real life… yes, good players make others around them better… you wonder why ourreceivers are bad??? Lookat the guy delivering the ball.

    STOP the excuses is healthier

  640. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    PONDER DOESN’T HAVE THE SKILL SET, YOU ID IOT

  641. By die hard 67 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    aka as dumb fock.. When Pnder develops into a solid qb which he will I don’t ever want to hear from again because you are an idiot dude……………….

  642. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder will not be good at anything in the NFL except packing his clothes and walking out the lockerrom door. Can’t be soon enough for me.

  643. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    lUCK IS A TRUE LEADER, STILL MAD WE WON THAT WASHINGTON GAME LAST YEAR WITH WEBB

  644. By john 61 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    die hard 67 you have to agree we need a new oc,ponder might make it if we get two reicvers,why not get T,O, TO HELP PONDER OUT,or is all are coaches messed up,

  645. By vikingbob136 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    @ Die Hard From your computer to God’s ears.Hope it happens one day

  646. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    desperate teams end up giving everyhing but the kitchen sink for a better qb. we are at that point

  647. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    die hard, you never even played the game, you d umb a ss

  648. By Vikings1 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    @All Vikings fans

    I watched the postgame pressers and it sounded like a broken record by Frazier and Ponder. Ponder is getting worse and Frazier is making the same old lame excuses. Why not bench AP before he gets hurt agian as Ponder shows he can’t get the job done. I really don’t think we will win another game and 6-8 we might be able to draft a decent QB or trade for one. I don’t like to bash anyone but we do need a QB in the worst way, man I wish we had just a little LUCK as in Andrew.

  649. By die hard 67 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I agree Luck is a tank , but there are plenty of nfl qbs that took a little time to develop who went on to win four super bowls Joe Montana and Terry Bradshaw..??

  650. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Hey everybody, did you all see what that rookie (ROOKIE) QB Luck did today??? Now that is leadership…. that is talent. That is an NFL QB!

  651. By Chris on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    We need to get rid of Christian ponder obviously Adrian Peterson is really benefiting our team but Christian ponder has to go

  652. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I would never boo Ponder.

  653. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    i agree, the Colts will be a powerhouse for another 20 years

  654. By rory from n.w.ark on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    We were let down big today,Ponder had no business throwing that first pick,Musgrave couldnt handle success so he trusted Ponder to give those points away,instead of trustin A.P. WOW still cant believe we are this bad to give a game away,Packers were begging us to win this game,they were….And all we could do is the usual ,GOLLY this feels like GROUNDHOG DAY ,same story same situation,same result…..GROUNDHOG DAY…..

  655. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Even with a waste of another 1st round on a QB, it would at least be something to look forward to:

    If I had to do the draft with a QB:

    1st Round: Jones/Bray/Glennon
    2nd Round: Rogers/Patterson (WR)
    3rd Round: Minter (ILB)
    4th Round: Best OG/DT

    Then there are a few good CB FAs this coming offseason that we should pick up at least one.

  656. By habs001 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    More often than not in the last few years the Vikings d has not been able to stop teams on key plays….

  657. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Really need to STOP comparing anything “Ponder” with the greats of football. It goes beyond the silly “first 20 game stats”…
    The guys you are comparing with Ponder had will Ponder doesn’t have, they had a willingness and readiness to make the play, and even in their failure, their bravado and TALENT was obvious…

    Ponder willl be great at the clip board for about 3-4 years, then he is coaching high school.

  658. By die hard 67 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    aka d – 3 at Eau CLAIRE ,NOSE TACKLE .WHERE DID YOU PLAY AKA scrub………..

  659. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    It’s also dumb we have a 3rd/4th round pick in Gerhardt sitting around. Asiata is capable of one play for 3 yards each game as Gerhardt is used.

  660. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Eau Claire, lol, i played for a big 10 school, qb

  661. By die hard 67 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Vlad did you see Terry Bradshaw play his first few years in th league , there was no BRAVADO or talent .Don’t make statements tha you don’t know anything about..

  662. By realviking on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    You have no cute of what your talking about, our defense was getting stops they just got tired of your qb Ponder going 3 and out.
    If you truly think we should sick with him then your a loser I don’t even think your a true Vikings fan.
    How can our receiver showcase their talent if or garbage quarterback can’t get it to them.
    I’m sick and tired if your excuses Ponder lost the game period nobody else he should be on the bench.
    Joe Web can throw for more then 36 yards Ponder and you are jokes.

  663. By QB on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Oldtimer, I’ve watched a heck of alot of games. Was lucky, and had a high draft lottery # at 18, but had alot of buds that weren’t so lucky and went to Vietnam.

    Thanks for your service.

  664. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    All-Conference 3 years in a row in high school

  665. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Terry Bradshaw had a skill set, Ponder doesn’t

  666. By die hard 67 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    aka as dillusional, get real now you have know more credibility lol !! YOUR’E AN IDIOT….

  667. By Meekay on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ok, so Ponder has played well a few times this year. All that tells me is that he’s really inconsistent and now ready for prime time. Also, a great WR will not fix a bad QB. We may not have great WRs, but anyone can see how terrible Ponders deep ball has been. Nobody can make those catches. A good QB could have won today, though. Even with mediocre receivers.

  668. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    your just jealous die f art

  669. By Meekay on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    *Not ready for prime time.

  670. By die hard 67 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    okay you got me there lol……………..aka I have no friends so I lie alot lol…..

  671. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    actually, Ponder had one fair game in 2 years

  672. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Bring in Charlie Batch. Alex Smith. Anybody!

  673. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    i have a life die f art, you don’t

  674. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Die hard, I have been watching since 1964 so I saw Bradshaw in his best and worst… but he DID play with bravado, he was WILD but he was out there gunning, he was a fighter and yes, had MAD talent, that is why they stuck with him… and if you really think that Ponder in any way is a specimen even CLOSE to Bradshaw then you have nothing to offer here of merit… it is absurd.

    WILD does ntmean bad, willingness to stand tall and set hsi feet and THROW the ball downfield come what may… I will take that over Ponder’s little sip of water here and there, dump off and bubble screens ahve been about 90% of Ponder’s passing game. NOTHING close to Bradshaw.

  675. By vikingbob136 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I agree Parkway.He’s good trade bait.He could be like a Peyton Hillis but not for our team

  676. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    die l oser

  677. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    die f art is brain d ead

  678. By vikingbob136 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Not sold on Glennon from NC State.Same conference Ponder came from.

  679. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Bradshaw didn’t even wear contacts and he had 20-200 vision

  680. By john 61 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    did you see peterson giving ponder a ear full after that pick,ponder a mess right now,musgrave got to go ,mybe the oc can get ponder on right track

  681. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    vb136: I’m not sure any of the three I mentioned would do great, but they all have great size and arm strength. Things you CANNOT TEACH. They all have shown a decent ability to be able to read the defense and go through progressions. Just some other things like footwork etc to improve on that CAN be taught so I would take my chances with any of them.

  682. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Bradshaw had WILL, even in his worst days, the guy wanted to go out for the 15th round no matter how bloddied and beaten he was.

    Ponder says: “I gotta get better. I have to keep moving past this stuff”

    Sissy. He can’t win, and he can’t play. Enough reason to stop this absurd theater of the bissare

  683. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder squanders another Vikings year

  684. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is just trying to buy time now, he knows the big paydays are almost over

  685. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Remember when McJoke was benched after throwing for 60 yards one game… how many has ponder been under 100 now?

  686. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    He will be doing all volunteer work, coaching Powder Puff QBs by 2017

  687. By TC612 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    If they would have benched him after that first int and put in Webb we would have won this game. Not saying webb would have lit up the scoreboard or anything but he probably would have made a few big plays. Also, a humbling experience might be good for him. AP was on fire. what a shame..

  688. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway, the patience this staff shows Ponder is beyond sensible… he has pictures or Zyggi’s blood… something, because there is NOTHING he does on the field that is woirthy of another look let alone another start!

  689. By vikingbob136 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    At this point Brady Quinn would be welcomed in Minn.

  690. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    How would you like to be Peterson, WANTING to open up with press about the lopsided attack… Harvin made mistake of about offense

  691. By liito on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder holds the Vikings back. He is not a first round talent. He needs a mentor. Let’s play the other members of the 53 men roster and see their skill sets. How long does it take to evaluate the quarterback position? Let’s hear from the wide receivers’ coach.

  692. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Brady Quinn won in KC…. Ponder is opening the door for someone else, so I guess we should be grateful for that if nothing else!

  693. By Richard1A on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    test

  694. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    it’s a shame, we were set up to win with a good qb this year, Green Bay and Chicago are not that good this year

  695. By Richard1A on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    The season is over, The Vikes owe it to A.P. to get him the rushing record, he is the only Vike of all the coachs & players to give 100% every game, every play!

  696. By john 61 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    we all said that about rich cannon he left and then won a supper bowl,with the right coaches,fraizer you playedwith a good back,and not a bad qb,you have to have some clue what it takes,

  697. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    no one has mhis first throw was almost picked off, and his TD throw to Rudolph SHOULD have been picked as he was sandwiched between two guys and if LBer turned on ball, it was picked.. This was ugly, but he was LUCKY it wasn’t uglier…. interesing that some fans sstill say he will be something..

    I agree with that, he will be a high school coach…. that’s something.entioned,

  698. By TC612 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Every interception ponder throws is pathetic. I don’t remember seeing him throw a forgivable INT that was just great defense. It’s usually a ball that sails about ten yards over their head and straight into the defenders chest.

  699. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    i’m sick of Ponders excuses, man up and own it Ponder!!! cut him already!

  700. By dee jay born on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    hopefully Ponder will pan out in the future,but what about NOW? we have players in their prime who can win now.the question is—do we sacrifice our better players in their prime for a young QB to develop? or do we try to make a serious run by making a change very soon?

  701. By VA Vike Fan on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I thought young qbs were suppose to improve with experience, not regress. smh and frazier still believes in him. how many games does he have to lose for this team?

  702. By Snoose on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Hey, I’ve got a great idea. Let’s trade Ponder for Sanchez. Oops, better be careful. They might just do it.

  703. By vikingbob136 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Rich Gannon did not win a Super Bowl.Tampa crushed Oakland in his appearance.
    I hop AP can stay healthy.We need him for next tyeear

  704. By vikingbob136 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Next year

  705. By vikingfanforlife on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Time is running out for Ponder. http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/67721/judgment-time-nears-for-christian-ponder

  706. By john 61 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    guys if we cut ponder who will we get,we have to start over and then ad will be old,mybe we can get good draf picks and have a great d,like the bears,and then win

  707. By dee jay born on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    2 new offensive guards and replacements for Jenkins and Simpson would help.

  708. By VA Vike Fan on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    The only way to get rid of Ponder and get a REAL qb is to let go of Frazier and bring somebody in that realizes that yu need a REAL qb to win in this league today

  709. By VA Vike Fan on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Call me crazy but I think Vick would do WONDERS for this team for 3 or 4 yrs. while we find THE GUY

  710. By vikingbob136 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Vick does have a stronger arm than Ponder.I am not sure its a vertical move.Maybe just a lateral one.

  711. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    All ideas for improvement are great, Like reading them, but there is ONE that is absolutely necessary… #7 has to move out. But he won’t because Frazier lost his mind. Thinking that a “note-taker” can lead a NFL football team…

    And Pnder having the benefit of Adrian in the backfield and automatic 12 + each game is like a race car having a one mile lead… and he still stalls the offense.

  712. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    that was 120 yds PLUS in each game…

    All the ame, Ponder knows how to ruin a drive and NOT score opints. THAT needs to change in a game that is won by scoring more than the other guys!!!

  713. By john 61 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    they all said that about matt ryan to,its mus grave holding this team back,yes we need recivers and o line help and d line help,

  714. By Brent on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I’ve never posted to this blog/forum. I’m so disgusted with management/ownership — fire Frazier now!

    Bench Ponder now!

  715. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    No, Ryan was NEVER this bad. I am not sure if I have EVER seen a starting, 1st round QB play this badly before… I put this to all the stat hounds, has Ryan Leaf even had 3 games under 100 yds?? I ask about 3 games because today was slop yards before Ponder barely crested 100… don’t qualify for my taste.

  716. By Vlad19 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Anyway, I am about done. Ponder is going to be back there again doing this silly stuff he calls playing football in the NFL – I call it wasting good fans hopes and money.

    Go Vikes. Frazier, see your psychiatrist… if you guys could abandon any and all patience with Donovan last year, you can admit your mistake with Ponder. Please do, move on, let the healing begin.

  717. By Richard1A on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    winning total was doubles, he wont be fired. Ponder is not playing at nfl level-why has’nt he been benched? no effort by the Vikes to change the outlook of the game.

  718. By john 61 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    you guys will all get your wish if he keeps playing like this,we will have new coaches and start to rebuild again,and will it be any better ?

  719. By C'mon Man! on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I am convinced that 95% of this teams fanbase i loaded with a bunch of idiots.

  720. By C'mon Man! on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I am convinced that 95% of this teams fanbase *is* loaded with a bunch of idiots.

  721. By liito on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    1. The 6 lost post game conference interviews by the coach and players basically say the same thing over and over.
    2. Aren’t the other non-productive 53 men roster embarassed by their performance compared to All Day, who after less than 8 months coming off an ACL and MCL tear injuries is performing at a high level and aims to be the best at his position?
    3. What kind of improvement does coaches and management want to see from Ponder in the remaining games?
    4. The team simply is one dimensional. Let’s hear it from the wide receivers’ coach.

  722. By 03 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Spielman told Frazier “until I tell you, you need to keep Ponder, Ponder is my investment, understood?” Poor Frazier, he has to still say Ponder is the guy, we need him to lead us… Wow, what a hard job Frazier has!!! Frazier has a proper criticism for other player, but he has very soft criticism to Ponder. Now you know why!!!

    Bench Spielman and Ponder both, put them all the way back in the bench!!

  723. By john 61 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    nexted year with a good draft, this team will be great, we have a lot of good players,alot better then most teams,we just need them to play like ad, and that takes a OC thats a jenious

  724. By viking 1968 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    A great opportunity to make move for a shot a wild card blown because of poor quarterback performance and poor coaching. The Vikings will not make the playoffs and with Ponder, at best he is a number 3 quarter back.

  725. By Mike B. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Watched Frazier’s PC and am convinced Ponder will be playing till the end of the season. Like I said this summer Webb wants to start in the NFL. He needs to find another team. Ponder is the Guy for this year. I think it is good business sense to ride this out to the end. I didn’t have my hopes set high this year, so I am not as dissappointed as others. I don’t like to see the Vikings lose, but they just aren’t play on all cylinders. Was the critical mistake in this game on Ponder? I would have to say yes. I don’t see the staff going out and trying out QBs, so we live or die by Ponder. That’s all that needs to be said.

  726. By Mike B. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    We need to draft a #1 WR or acquire one. We need a RT, LG, DT, and a MLB. I will hold off on the QB until the season ends.

  727. By 03 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B, sorry, but I have to say, yes, NFL is a business, but it has to be followed by professional sport, where people compete, competition has to come first not the business. That’s what the Vikings are doing right now – they are doing poor business, lead by Spielman!!!!!

  728. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B., your wating space here, your posts are based on ignorance

  729. By Mike B. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder aka due to my experience and time cheering this team I think you know where you can put your opinion and you will probably enjoy it.

  730. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    i remember when Spielman hand picked Ponder in the 2011 draft. i was so mad i turned off the tv. he cost the vikings about 5 years, not to mention all our playmakers are getting older

  731. By 03 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder’s fault!!!, well, it’s really Spielman’s fault!!! We need to recognize the source from now on!!!

  732. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B., who cares about you cheering, i go to the games and spend money, your a free loading cheerleader

  733. By David P on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway I disagree. In ordere for play action to work the receivers have to get seperation. My dead grandmother could cover the vikings receivers. When are the fans and more importantly the COACHES GOING TO REALIZE THE VIKINGS RECEIVERS ARE A JOKE? And another thing. THE DEFENSE IS ALSO A JOKE. Also the 6 wins this year will keep the joke of a coaching staff in tact for another year and oh boy ANOTHER JOKE. Do AP a favor. Give him a chance to play for a team that can compete.

  734. By 03 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Spielman is jeopardizing the dome!!!! I’m not paying for it until Ponder is in the bench!!

  735. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    on the bench? i don’t want him even holding a clipboard, i want him gone!

  736. By Mike B. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    How would you know if I went to games or not and how many times of NFL Licensed items are in my home. But then I will let you think exactly what you want as no can convince you of anything anyhow. What happened to giving Frazier the entire season to improve this team. We are already a better team by our record. I think some fans (Ponder aka) should evaluate their comments and realize they are building a team of the future here. Ponder may not be the guy long run but he is the guy now.

  737. By Mike B. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    oops kinds of NFL Licensed

  738. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I saw plenty of open receivers today, Ponder predetermines who he is going to throw the ball to, he does not go through his reads. He doesn’t use pump fakes or eye manipulation to move the safeties in order to get his receivers open. So once again, it isn’t on the receivers as much as more Ponder apologists might have you believe.

  739. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    PONDER DOESN’T HAVE THE SKILL SET, MORE TIME IS A WASTE OF TIME, CUT HIM NOW!

  740. By Mike B. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t know who posted the idiot in the video, but there are other words in the english language other than swear words.

  741. By john 61 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    you all say you played sports,so when you had a lame ass coach you played that way,when you had a coach that put a fire under you you played that way,so whats the proplem ,is it spielman,fraizer, or is it they have one great player and all the others feel left out because they know they cant play at his level,no its the coaches,not the players

  742. By Sgt. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is a joke. way to try and win the game coaches. We were so close to getting RG# or Luck. Its not the receivers fault either. When Harvin is in the game all ponder does is throw 2 yard bubble screens. He cant throw the ball down field as u seen with Adrian runnin wide open down the sideline. In the NFL there is very little separation between the receivers & corners. When Rodgers throws nobody is ever open but he gets the ball in that tight window. By the time Noodle arm throws the ball the window is closed for the winter. When they fired childress they needed to clean house not hire his stupid sidekick. Wasted years for AP, poor guy. The only good that might come out of this season is AP breakin the single season rushing record. GO AD, Luv ya man

  743. By Dr. Remulak on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    The only way our receivers get open is when Percy is on the field getting double covered. Take Harvin off the field and you see how useless the rest of our wide receivers are.

    Ponder may be bad, but our wide receivers (excluding Percy) are 10 times worse.

  744. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    GREAT POST SGT, EXACTLY WHAT I THINK

  745. By Mark B on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Just because Vlad asked …. Ryan leaf failed to pass for more than 110 yards (about what Ponder did today) 10 times in his 25 starts. If you want to limit it to 100 yards passing that number drops all the way down to 9.

    Just thought I’d put that out there. There was one game in fact where he threw for an amazing 1 of 15 for 4 yards.

    I will still stick to my guns and say that Ponder should finish the year out, but if there isn’t a dramatic difference in his play then he should be replaced.

  746. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    i bet management is looking for a qb as we speek, they aren’t that st upid

  747. By Sgt. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    i disagree, How open can Adrain get and noodle arm cant throw the ball 25yds down the field. Noodle arm cant throw. PERIOD

  748. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    speak

  749. By liito on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Dear Coach Frazier or Vikes Management!
    Don’t be stiff-necked. It’s okay to make changes if something (or someone) is not performing. Let’s see what Webb or MBT can do. Take courage.

  750. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Zygi Wilf is embarrassed to walk around New York– afraid Tom Coughlin will laugh at him.

  751. By 03 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Spielman’s fault!!

  752. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

  753. By 03 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Spielman’s fault!!

  754. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is puuting the new stadium up in the air. if they don’t continue to sellout home games, bye bye new stadium

  755. By 03 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Spielman’s fault!! and Spielman’s fault!!

  756. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe I’ll be proved wrong, but I don’t think it is all Spielman. He had a great draft this year, bad FA…. but Ponder wasn’t picked under spielman as a true GM:

    Vikings owner Zygi Wilf believes Spielman can shape the team’s future. He has been in Spielman’s corner since he hired him in May 2006 to work in step with former coach Brad Childress and vice president of football operations Rob Brzezinski under the “triangle of authority” built on consensus and confusion.

    This might be Spielman’s chance to maximize his potential in what he calls his first “legitimate” general manager role after spending most of the past 12 years as the sous chef in the kitchens of head coaches Dave Wannstedt in Miami and Brad Childress in Minnesota.

    So I’m sure Frazier was part of the triangle as interim/new HC and wanted Ponder. Who do you think spent a bunch of time with Ponder at the Senior Bowl? Frazier doesn’t know offense and I would bet he wanted Ponder more than Spielman.

  757. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    i hate the Cowboys, but we couldn’t even beat the Cowboys with Ponder as qb

  758. By john 61 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    zig wilf needs to grow a pair,and fire spielman, musgave,

  759. By Nicholas on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I think Mark B is right. Ponder is under center at least until the end of the year. If he does something astronomical in the meantime then he’s safe…if not…time for plan B.

  760. By Nicholas on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe we will get lucky like Seattle did and get our own Russel Wilson diamond in the rough type QB.

  761. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Spielmans mistake was big enough to warrent a firing

  762. By Nicholas on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Leslie Frazier for DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR!!!!!!!!!!

  763. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    No I don’t want his tampa boring 2 anymore.

  764. By Nicholas on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    He has given us top 10 defenses in the past.

  765. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    when Frazier gets fired, he can take Ponder with him

  766. By Nicholas on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Bill Cowher considering coming back to a HC position? Bill Cowher for HC…Leslie Frazier for DC!!!

  767. By john 61 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    if you belive thats true parkway,spielman should have told him no,if he was going to be a true gm,they both made this bed and now they dont what to slep in it

  768. By 03 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    ok, parkway, interesting…. I’m listening

  769. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Spielman said after the draft that they got their man

  770. By Vike46 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    heres an idea, just kick a field goal when you cross the 30 yard line. Obviously passing in the redzone is outside of ponders skill set. Then at least we would put up points.

  771. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ah, so Parkway, you are an executive chef in a hotel?

  772. By James on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Mike are you dumb?? Do you not see how much of a difference harin makes? We cannot afford to lose harvin!!

  773. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    John I don’t think you understand my post. Spielman was not GM until January of this year…. We drafted Ponder in 2011. Meaning Spielman did not have final say of who they drafted at QB. Sure he’ll give lip service to Ponder etc but I’m not sure he ever wanted him.

  774. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Harvin may not want to stay with Ponder as qb, and Frazier as head coach

  775. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Titus I did not write that part, I forgot to add quotes. That was from an article when Spielman was first hired as GM.

  776. By Vike46 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder lost this game for us. No excuses acceptable. Poor judgement and passing. Its a shame percy and adrian have to do all the work, just to have him throw interceptions in the redzone. Unbelievable. Does he look for his buddy Kyle everytime?

  777. By john 61 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    your right sorry parkway

  778. By Don on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    How long are the Vikings going to make us watch AP’s talent go to waste???? Ponder is making mistakes you would expect from a third string QB and he’s doing them over and over. This was the 3rd game that he has cost the Vikes. He is a great back up to the back up. Joe Webb (not a long time fix) at least knows that you NEVER throw across your body!!!! EVER unless you have Manning or Brady or Rodgers on your back you don’t do it!

  779. By Vike46 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Defenses wear reciever gloves when ponder comes to town. Unbelievable loss today. This had a big win potential.

  780. By Ponder aka 3 and out on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    they might have a hard time selling out the last 2 home games with a 3rd string qb -Ponder

  781. By Mike B. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    @Parkway I will have to differ from what you said Spielman is definately had a lot to do with getting Ponder to MN. He had even commented on it after the 2011 draft how they still got the QB they wanted. To suggest otherwise is an outright deception. Ponder is the choice of both Frazier and Spielman.

  782. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I literally just said that Spielman would offer lip service to Ponder because what is he going to say “no I didn’t want him at all” ??? Yeah that’s professional.

  783. By Mike B. on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    But your comment made it sound that maybe Ponder wasn’t a Spielman guy. I think that is not accurate, but of course I couldn’t prove that. I think to suggest otherwise is just as wrong.

  784. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Can’t wait for Wobz, the ultimate Ponder apologist to go at it tomorrow

  785. By viking181164 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    how many times we going to watch the same game? ponder is dumb not talented,not creative,nor does he ave an arm for this league..makes too many mistakes..looks at the same guy off the line of scrimmage..does he sleep with rudolph? i mean without pete we would be 2-10 right now..we need a new coaching staff too..

  786. By vikingbob136 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Cowgirls just gave up a 98 yard punt return.They are still going to win.What a terrible weekend! Hate the Cowhirls

  787. By john 61 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    anyway were stuck with ponder,hope for good draft

  788. By 03 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    That was the condition Spielman requested to Zygi – Zygi asked Spielman to become the GM, and Spielman agreed if the team picks Ponder. At the end, Spielman’s fault!!!

  789. By 03 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Well, good luck, Wobz works for the team, means also works for Spielman….

  790. By DaVikings on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Man I feel sorry for AP to put so much effort and run so hard week after week and be on such a poor team, don’t know how he can stay possitive. He should retire early as Barry Sanders did. This team will never be Championship caliber as long as they keep doing what there doing. Yes and Ponder is not getting any better and is the QB everyone thought he was when he was drafted,but what’s new, they also drafted Travaris Jackson and look how long he was around,Dumb, Dumb,Dumb.

  791. By john 61 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    hate to say this but mybe we should trade ap to a contender for two 1st,and2 2nd round picks then we can start all over,like we did with the cowboys for h walker,and ap would get his ring we can build a supperteam like the cowboy did

  792. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    The $100 million contract probably helps dv, but I feel your pain

  793. By Shawn on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    there are lots of bogus claims made on here. like Ponder has anything to do with the Viking stadium ….

  794. By viking181164 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    did anyone watch other games today? do you ever see when the good qb’s hit the sidelines after a drive turns into a td.. they hit the photos and talk to coordinators..ponder puts his coat on and just stands their..it sick already..not a leader whos going to run ur offense..were done untill we wake up..

  795. By john 61 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    thats the oc falut he should coach him

  796. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Local news is about to have the Vikings feature– not sure I can take it. I just saw Frazier saying they have to help Ponder — help him by keeping him accountable– he is an adult, isn’t he? The playoffs are about completely gone — absurd that you don’t think about all of the players and all of the fans— instead you pamper an employee who is not doing his job.

  797. By viking181164 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    fire the coaching staff after the season and regroup

  798. By viking181164 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    were beating this ponder thing to death..they aint changing him viking fans..we have to hope he gets injured

  799. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Now you’re coming around Titus

  800. By Parkway on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

  801. By VA Vike Fan on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    The only way any changes will be made is if the fans stop buying tickets to watch this junk. If we don’t go to the game Sunday, our voice will be heard.

  802. By viking181164 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    love when rosen cuts down ponder himself..looks good on the coaches

  803. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway, huh? I was screaming that Ponder should have been pulled at the start of the fourth quarter…

    AT THE TAMPA GAME!!! How long ago was that?

  804. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    GET A LOAD OF WHAT I JUST HEARD ON TV

    “I have been a Chris.tian apologists too long, I am sorry — I am done–AT least put Webb in for a change” that is what the anchor on Vikings extra just said– and then he said– “And shame on the Vikings for not having a better backup at QB– go get Sage back.”

  805. By vikesfan5.0 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    I think Mr. Speilman has done an wonderful job as the GM,but Frazier and Muskgrave need to go after this season. Both Ponder and Webb suck! We should use Webb for a WR and put our 3rd string QB in! Hey atleast it would make the last few games alittle more interesting.

  806. By viking181164 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    even rex ryan sucked it up finally and changed his qb and look they won 7-6 haha

  807. By viking181164 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    we have a third string qb waiting in the wings that has a rocket for an arm but yet were playing a noodle arm dumb qb..get used to it viking fans..we are who we thought we were

  808. By vikesfan5.0 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Who do you think would make a new head coach for us next year,and what about Alex Smith in purple?

  809. By viking181164 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    alex smith is a minor step up from ponder..he was a overall # 1 pick that just started to progress last year…thats how many years they stuck by him? we better not do that with ponder i’ll freak

  810. By viking181164 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    as far as a new head coach go get brian billick back…either that hire him as OC musgraves sucks big time…im saying were about 7-9 players away yet..but it all starts with a qb

  811. By vikesfan5.0 on Dec 2, 2012 | Reply

    Im no longer a Vikes fan! Im a Adrian Peterson fan! We would have been better off if we just stacked the O line and the Center just hikes the ball right to AP every down!!!

  812. By viking181164 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    a zombie can hand off the ball to pete…ever hear of a running back that ran the ball for 210 and lost..its pathetic..but yet they start ponder everygame…eventually you have to put the ball in the air..thats when we lose the games…

  813. By vikesfan5.0 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    MBT!!! Put him in Frazier!

  814. By vikesfan5.0 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Who are we going to get to help out at WR?

  815. By Vlad19 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I am relieved, Mike B did his research for me – I was being facetious in suggesting Ponder is no better than Ryan Leaf, unarguably the worst bust of an NFL QB (By NFL Film’s standards, not necessarily mine), and Mike B graciously found and stated that Leaf was indeed WORSE than Ponder.

    I am relieved, as Ponder is NOT worse than Ryan Leaf.

    Worse than perhaps every other 1st round bust I am familiar with, but NOT Leaf. Whew! Good news. Go Ponder!

  816. By dryes on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I will not watch another vikes game as long as ponder is qb. that means i will not buy a ticket. BOYCOTT VIKINGS UNTIL PONDER IS CUT

  817. By dryes on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    .. or benched at least.

  818. By Dueyz on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier has to go. Ponder has to go. End of discussion. Plenty others as well, but these 2 should start our rebuild.

  819. By Dueyz on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    We have to win the rest of our games just to be eligible. Ponder can’t do that! Webb is a better chance, but still unlikely. I hope Adrian Peterson gets to put on the Gold jacket, because he deserves it. SO sorry he had to play here now. He earned a career befitting a true Champion, and has been given the spoils of the loser.

  820. By Dueyz on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I never wish against my own team, but I pray that heads roll after this game!!!!!

  821. By Dueyz on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    For those of you who say that MIN fans who don’t support Ponder are not real fans, you’re wrong! I went through this with T-Jack fans. LET…IT…GO. This is not our guy. Stop digging your heels in over this, and join us in the next era.

  822. By Gilberator on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    End Zone pick was foolish. That, I will agree, was terrible. The other pick was just the name of the game. Interceptions like that happen all the time. I always back Ponder and im not really ready to quit on him yet. Webb isnt the answer. If anything, bring out MBT. I feel bad for Peterson. If this wasnt labeled as a rebuilding year, I would say bench Ponder. If he doesnt win another game this season, I say start someone else next year.

  823. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I expected Ponder to struggle yesterday…But not that much…Terrible day for the young QB…That first end zone interception was a complete bo nehea ded play…Missing AP on that pass out of the backfield was another very poor attempt getting him the b all….

    But would I like to see a change at QB…Oh h e!! nooooo !!!….

    Did Ponder have a REALLY bad day…Yes !!…But that happens…Ponder was a main cog in why the Vikings lost the game yesterday…And helped tarnish an EXCELLENT performance by AP…

    AP you are the man !!!!…

    Did the refs have some bad calls, like I predicted ??…Yes…Did the WR’s s uck like I predicted…Yes…

    The defense had a better game on grass than I thought they would…And AP was an absolute BEAST !!!…

    Will Frazier do what he said…And get some help at WR ???…

    Fans have been begging for a WR that can get some separation for weeks now…The only player fast enough to stretch the field is Wright…And that is not enough…Even when Harvin comes back…He will not be a 100% for awhile…

    We need deep speed…Raid some other teams practice squads…We have several WR’s we can du mp, to make room on the 53 man roster…

  824. By vikingbob136 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier says he is sticking with Ponder.

  825. By vikingbob136 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    The good news: We have 3 more wins than last year.
    The bad news:We aren’t going to the playoffs and we need to get a new QB in there.

  826. By vikingbob136 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I think Wobs is hung over from yesterday’s loss.

  827. By SmileyStar on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @gilberator How do you know Joe’s not worthy of the QB position? He hasn’t played enough to be judged. Webb plays the way RG3 plays.

  828. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I expect Spielman to cover all his bases in this springs draft…And take a QB in the middle rounds to back up Ponder and MBT next season…

    I think Webb will be let go…

    If the” best player available” is a QB in “any” round this spring…I would not doubt at all that Spielman would pick that QB…

  829. By hippster on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    check my pregame stats boys and girls if peterson doesnt rip off an 82 yd scamper my prediction was spot on .this team reads like a book a bad book,then to top off sundays football we get bob costas running off at the mouth about gun control be afraid america very afraid if the girl that was killed had a gun herself she might still be alive

  830. By hippster on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    PS FIRE FRAZIER THIS GUY REEKS OF FAILURE

  831. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    FIRE MUSGRAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    FIRE FRAIZER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    FIRE THAT ENTIRE COACHING STAFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    DRAFT NEW QB!!!!!!!!!!!

    Ponder is absolutely terrible. I thought I was going to give him till the end of the eyar to evaluate him.. But I changed my mind, 23 games he has started, and not one game did I see a future NFL QB. He is a back up at best, and not even a reliable one at that. Obviously the wilfs need to get rid of the entire coaching staff. Every time Ponder threw an incompletiong, Fraizer froze and looked like a deer in the headlights. I’m done with this QB!!!!!!!

    Wait till the end of the year or whatever is fine. Changing mid season will do no good, but at the end of the season they all better be gone. Fraizer sticking with Ponder shows he is incompitent, and not strong willed enough to be a coach. Sry Fraizer, But its time to leave the party, were cutting you off, you have had to much to drink CLEARLY since you still want to stick with Ponder…

    HEY, to all your Ponder lovers. did your Franchise QB make you proud yesterday??? IT’s ok, you can be honest.

  832. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @OTK…. If we draft a QB it is going to be so Ponder can be the back up… Not the other way around. He is not even close to good enough to play in this league… Ponder is done. The rest of the season will just just as Sh*ty. He is not going to get better, after 23 games if you don’t improve you get benched… and in his case he took 5 steps backwards

  833. By David P on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Here is the most decent thing the vikings should do. They should trade AP and Harvin for drafts picks and start over. AP is the best football player in the league and hs is just the present day version of Barry sanders. Playing for a team that stopped playing a long time ago and a coaching staff that does not know how to coach. It is time to smell the coffee. The whole vikings staff should be fired for the product they put on the field every week.

  834. By Bigfan1 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Matt Barkley, get him.

  835. By Bigfan1 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I feel for other players who are game changers like AP, Harvin, not matter now hard they play the team loses. No matter how many records AP can break the Vikings still lose. Over 200 yards against the Packers, CMON MAN.

  836. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    OTK

    Most of this loss goes on Ponder. He is not a good QB no matter how you look at it. Don’t give me this “hes young” junk. 23 game started in the NFL. Not one showed consistent promies. He now has 13 TDs and 11 INTs this season. Whish is pretty much what he had last season.. and he didn’;t get a full year. He missed at least 8 throws that should have been on target and weren’t that difficult. he has no accuracy, no velocity, no poise, he tuck and ran after he noticed Rudolf was covered every time. I saw one play all game that he looked at more than one receiver.

    Do we need a new QB… HECK YEAH WE DO!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED AT LEAST 3 GAMES AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    BENCH PONDER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  837. By Bigfan1 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    They should’ve taken third round Wilson from Wisconsin. There should be a petition system directly to the Wilfs to get a QB, they got a new stadium, but what’s the point.

  838. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    PAY PERCY

  839. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @ David P… ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard anyone say about the vikings ever!!!!

    We need to keep the players we intent to build around. I would never EVER trade AP.. That’s just dumb… don’t be dumb

  840. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Did anyone watch any of the other rookie QBs play yesterday??? I realized that they actually know how to play football and Ponder acts like this was his first game starting ever. Terribly underthrowing every opportunity he got.

    The other rookie QBs all played lights out football… ALL OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! even if they didn’t win they all played great. So I ask the Ponder lovers. Why is it that a man with 23 starts is at least 25 games behind a man with only 12??? Hmmmm…. IDK maybe he SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!

    Keep POnder till the end of the year is fine, changing it now wont do anything good or bad. But at the end of the year, deem him your backup or cut him, or trade him. IDK, but I refuse to watch another season with him at the helm. I don’t feel like watching another “re-building” lost season… PONDER IS AWFUL

  841. By hippster on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    hey there muskyfever was the fishing any good this year ? any 50 inchers? from one fisherman to another

  842. By GrandDaddyPurp on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    ANDY RIED

  843. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    GDP…Wilf was a Eagle fan before owning the Vikings ???

    I have been thinking Angy Reid of late also…

  844. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @ hippster…

    Fishing was great.. best season of my life so far. 4 over 50″ …. boated 43 fish total. Smallest was 29″ and largest was 53 1/2″ by 24″ that was just 2 weeks ago on milacs.

    Did you have a good season??

  845. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Hope Harvin is back this week…I want to see Harvin and Wright on the field together…Bet Summers finally finds his way to the starting line up also…

    Frazier needs to release some underperforming WR’s…

    If the Ponder haters actually want a different QB behind center next season ???…They better hope Ponder finishes up this season as QB ???…Because Ponder needs to finish his TOTAL evaluation process on a complete season…Spielman will want to know exactly how Ponder does in these final four games to do that…Especially these big division games…

    So if you really want a new QB…You better hope Ponder plays…Like it or not…

  846. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    Fraizer needs to release some udnerachieving QB’s…

    just sayin

  847. By OTKalil2012 on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    new blog…Wobbs finally woke up… : )

  848. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I Hope he does play… then gets released at the end of the year, or they make him a back up. he SUCKS!!!!!!!!!

    Can’t wait to watch a game NOT feturing Ponder at QB

  849. By hippster on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @ muskyfever fishing is great where i live we dont have musky but we do have tigermuky ,a great looking fish my addiction is the hybrid stripper or wiper ,ever catch one ? sounds like you got your fishing down keep up the good work, tight lines and good times

  850. By Kathy P on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    I lay the loss completely on Ponder for this game! (2) picks in the redzone which would have put us up. STUPID penalties week after week that cost us the games. I was so happy when JA got that interception; BUT NO it wasnt to be because of a stupid penalty. These young players need to understand why they can’t be pushing/charging the QB in todays NFL. Gets a penalty almost everytime. And the stupid block in the back penalty on a kickoff return set us back over 20yds. STUPID,STUPID playing on their parts. Why do we have coaches who consistently are SO BLIND that they continue to allow this to happen week in and week out!!! I agree with most of the posts on here. We need to do an overhaul come the end of the season. We need a new aggressive HC, new OC, and new QB. The fans have been calling for WR’S for MANY weeks and Frasier’s “lightbulb moment” has just now flickered???? It’s a day late, and a dollar short at this point in the season. I dont blame Harvin for not wanting to play with Ponder in as QB. If AP didnt have his heart/soul into every game like he does, I’d tell him to sit out too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  851. By Muskyfever on Dec 3, 2012 | Reply

    @ Hippster. I caught 2 tigers this year…. But are you talking about stripped Bass?? I have never caught one, but I know that those guys use the same type of gear that we do for muskies. I also heard that they hunt in pakcs, that sometimes if you get a follow, it’s from like 6 at one time all trying to eat your bait.

    Otherwise if that is not the fish, than I am not sure…

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