Bring Out The Brooms! Vikings Win 34-24, Sweep Lions

Posted by Mike Wobschall on November 11, 2012 – 4:10 pm

After a two-game losing streak fanned the flames of a hot 5-2 start, the Vikings reignited their season on Sunday at Mall of America Field with a fiery 34-24 victory over the Detroit Lions that featured a bounce-back performance from QB Christian Ponder, another dominating performance from RB Adrian Peterson and timely ferocity from the defense.

Before a blow-by-blow recap of how the Vikings won, here’s a quick summary of the stand-out performers…

– Peterson continues to display why he’s the best RB in the NFL. Coming off 3 consecutive 100-yard games, Peterson ran through the Lions as well. He rushed for 171 yards and 1 TD on 27 carries, including a game-breaking and victory-clinching 61-yard dash in the 4th quarter. The Vikings are now 27-12 when Peterson carries the ball 20+ times. Peterson has 1,128 yards on the season, which averages out to 112.8 yards per game and puts him on pace for a career-high 1,804 yards. Not bad for a guy coming off knee surgery.

– Ponder critics were out in full force the past three weeks, but they’ll have to take a couple weeks off after Sunday’s outing. Ponder was 24 of 32 on the afternoon, throwing for 221 yards and 2 TDs with 0 INTs for a passer rating of 114.2. He took just 1 sack on the day and pulled the ball down to run 7 times, gaining 15 yards. Ponder hit 10 different receivers on the day (including himself) and leaned heavily on TE Kyle Rudolph (7 receptions, 64 yards, 1 TD).

– LB Chad Greenway is the NFL’s leading tackler. He was up to his usual tricks again on Sunday, but he put a stamp on this week’s performance by grabbing a 1st-quarter INT. His big play led to a Blair Walsh FG and a 10-0 Vikings lead.

– S Jamarca Sanford has stepped up big time for the Vikings this season. He forced yet another fumble on a Calvin Johnson reception. He has 5 forced fumbles on the season. Antoine Winfield recovered the fumble, which set up yet another Walsh FG.

– We should mention Walsh here because he had a fantastic day. Walsh was 4 for 4 on FGs, connecting from 48, 23 (twice) and 33 yards. He also blasted 6 touchbacks and now is the Vikings single-season record holder in that category. P Chris Kluwe was also a standout performer on the afternoon, flipping field position with ease and often times pinning Detroit deep in their own territory.

Fans left the game talking about Peterson and Ponder, but in the early stages it was rookie receiver Jarius Wright who created a buzz. Active for his first regular season game with fellow receiver Percy Harvin sidelined due to an ankle injury, Wright got the party going early by dashing through the heart of the Lions defense on his team’s fifth play from scrimmage and hauling in a 54-yard reception from Ponder that set the Vikings up with a 1st and goal from the 1. Just two plays later, Ponder went back to Wright to cap the drive with a 3-yard TD to give the Vikings an early 7-0 lead.

The Vikings took a 13-3 lead into the locker room at halftime, and then extended that lead to 16-3 early in the 2nd half when Blair Walsh hit his 3rd FG of the game, that one from 23 yards out. The Lions responded immediately with a quick 4-play, 81 drive that culminated in a 16-yard TD reception by TE Brandon Pettigrew. Ponder and Co. showed resiliency, though, and answered the Pettigrew score with a TD pass to their starting TE – Kyle Rudolph. Ponder found his buddy for a 20-yard score and Peterson bulled his way into the end zone for the 2-point conversion, giving the Vikings a 24-10 lead early in the 4th quarter.

QB Matthew Stafford and the Lions would not go away, though. Explosive plays and Vikings penalties put the Lions on the Vikings goal line in just 6 plays, and Stafford found WR Titus Young for the TD to pull his team to within 7 points midway through the 4th quarter. The Vikings went 3-and-out on their next drive, but the defense responded by forcing a Lions punt as well.

That set the stage for Peterson to dagger Detroit. He exploded through the Lions defensive front for 19 yards on 1st down, and then dazzled the home crowd on his next carry with a 61-yard exclamation point, giving the Vikings a 31-17 lead. Johnson fumbled on the Lions first play after the Peterson TD and Walsh tacked on another FG to move the Vikings lead to 34-17. The Lions found Johnson for a late TD, but it was too little, too late for the Lions.

The Vikings came away with the victory, giving them a series sweep of their division rivals and moving them to a perfect 2-0 within the NFC North. The win snapped their 2-game losing streak and sends them into their bye with optimism, as a grueling 6-game stretch awaits them. The Vikings will come out of their bye week with consecutive road games against the Bears and Packers, and then will host the Bears on December 9 before hitting the road for consecutive games once again (at St. Louis and at Houston). The Vikings will conclude their regular season schedule with border rival Green Bay on December 30.

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205 Responses to “Bring Out The Brooms! Vikings Win 34-24, Sweep Lions”

  1. By JE on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply


  2. By JE on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    A good day for Ponder but with AP running for 171 it should be. As long as he can throw the ball deep to his wideouts a handful of times he will be ok. Would like to see alot more of it!!

  3. By OLD SCHOOL on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Add this J. Wright to the mix when we go to CHI town along with P. Harvin……..WE MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING!

  4. By animal26 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    You think that we will lay off Ponder Mike? Very not likely. Lets just see how he does against top notch talent like the bears, texans, and packers, before you start running your mouth about how Ponder is great. This game did show me one thing about this team though. They need a new offensive coordinator. Musgrave is an idiot. I hope Ponder can prove me wrong, but he has much to show, before the “critics” lay off him.

  5. By animal26 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    not very likely*

  6. By JE on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    AP is making a case for MVP!! Who would have thought that at the begining of the year! This team is riding on Ponders success or lack thereof. Can Ponder play up to his potential?? I sure hope so! If he does we are playoff bound! If he doesnt..??? Ponder has to keep making strides!!

  7. By vikingsfan1955 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    great team effort and the ponder from the start of the yr showed up. he has to stay for us to be able to stay in playoff contention. We did well without harvin and saw that others can step up. I think this may help ponder with his confidence.The d has to stay on top of it when we are ahead. I think this may be musgraves best game he ever called.AP are you real lol he makes no sense but with him we have a chance, and harvin will be back after the bye week. I still think we can do it and a win at cjicago will open a lot of eyes.

  8. By JE on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    There are no excuses!!! There were NO excuses for Culpepper,TJACK, and certainly none for Webb!!!! Ponders had 20 starts!! Thats 17 more than Webb!! If any of our past QBs played poorly they got the blame!! With the leading rusher in the NFL behind you,you better show me something at this point!!!!

  9. By JE on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Good game for Ponder. Not great, but much better than what we have seen in a month. We needed that!

  10. By Sir Greasy Panda on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Biggest stat of the day??? NO TURNOVERS!!!

    It’s amazing to see what happens when you dont give the other team the ball on our side of the field!!!

  11. By James on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Now only if the coaches activate wright earlier…imagine harbinger and wright on the field at the same time….what were u thinking coach?

  12. By vikingfanforlife on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Wobbs the jury is still out on Ponder, till the end of the season. You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist. Friedrich Nietzsche

  13. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Wobbles was talking to YOU, VLAD19!

    – Ponder critics were out in full force the past three weeks, but they’ll have to take a couple weeks off after Sunday’s outing. Ponder was 24 of 32 on the afternoon, throwing for 221 yards and 2 TDs with 0 INTs for a passer rating of 114.2

  14. By Parkway on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder supporters are hilarious. We get on him for having 5-6 poor games in a row and we are of course so ridiculous because it’s only a few games, but one mediocre game apparently proves everyone wrong and makes him a god among mere mortals.

  15. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Mediocre? 75% completion rate (81% if you add two dropped, TWO TDS, ZERO INTS, and a rating of 114— WOW, Parkway, some of you did an incredible feat– you guys belong in the Guniess Record books– rewrote Webster’s in two hours– amazing!!!

  16. By tomcat on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    I`m gonna stick my neck out and say that we have some of the most whiny fans I can imagine. We`re sitting there at 6-4 in the 2nd year of a major rebuild. Last year at this point, if memory serves, we were 2-8. We have some of the best players in the N.F.L. Another good draft, a couple of F.A.`s and Superbowl here we come! If we play like today, we may even make some noise this year.Skol!

  17. By Parkway on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    How many of those p@sses were past 5 yards? 3 or 4?

  18. By Parkway on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    And hey if he completed all his p@sses then he would have had 100% completion rate. What do you think about that completion to himself for a ten yard loss when he should have batted it down? Great stat guys glad he completed that one.

  19. By JE on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Right on Parkway!! Ponder has a running attack behind him like no other in the league!!! He still has a long way to go, but today a step in the right direction! Thats a first for him in a month!! Will take it!!

  20. By 32frank12 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder threw downfield a decent amount more than usual Parkway. Be happy Ponder played good today and there were a couple drops. Give Ponder credit he bounced back from a couple bad performances. Be happy we are at 6-4. We are far way from being the worst team in the league like predicted. Support your team or get out of here!!!

  21. By 1vikingsfan on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    C’mon parkway don’t argue Vikings won. Now if it’s something negative just don’t post anything

  22. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Wow, it could be 80 degrees and sunny and you would find a complaint in your throat somewhere– gee, it is too bright out.

  23. By 32frank12 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Thank You 1vikingsfan…we actually played a pre good game compared to the last few games…..Parkway get out of here with your negative attitude. Be Proud!!

  24. By wdnemesis on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Great Game and way to switch it up between our talented players. I like how Ponder was throwing to his Tight ends and Wide receivers. This game is a big improvement and look forward to seeing performances like this in the future.

  25. By Parkway on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    It’s not negative, for someone who says to look past the empirical data all of the time you sure are a hypocrite Titus.

    I’m glad Ponder played well for once. I’m just being realistic in saying it was the same din k and dunk short p@sses to manage the game. You will get high completion percentages that way (unless you are Ponder from the last 5 games) Some people are just more analytical than others.

  26. By JE on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Theres nothing wrong with giving Ponder the business when AP is running wild and you cant throw the ball. Today he still only managed 225 yards passing.It was a big improvement and we won the game,however, i would hope so!!! When you rush for 200 you better win the game!!!!!!

  27. By vikingbob136 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    I am as happy as anyone with the win today. But we all know that the rough part of the schedule is coming up.
    Vikes need to stay focused and rest up during the bye week.
    Hopefully Harvin can come back at 100%.
    Spreading the ball out to so many receivers was a huge difference today.
    I think if we can win 2 of the 4 games left in our division, it puts us in decent position.

  28. By Nicholas on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    All I’m asking for is consistency. I want to see more games like today!!

    Musgrave: Get Peterson, Wright, Harvin, SImpson, and Rudolph all on the field at the same time!!!!

  29. By ponder, aka 3 and out on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder better step his game up against Chicago, he won’t win with 225 yards passing in that game. Ponder still stinks up the joint

  30. By Typical Viking Fan on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Beating a dissapointment like the Lions is something to be proud of. Right fellas? Now that the Vikings beat the Lions they could beat anyone. Superbowl anyone? They’ll get there one field goal at a time.

  31. By H.M.G. on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    HMG, PLEASE don’t love your stats so much that you make such a blanket statement as Ponder is as good as Rodgers….. it blows any credibility out of the water.

    Stat lovers don’t trust their eyes or lack true knowledge of the game – if you think because Rodgers threw 220 yards that tHAT is the standard of GREAT, simply because Rodgers did it…. don;t know what to say to that.

    Effective day for sure – 4 TDs on 220 yards, but great numbers? A win is a win, and that is all one needs to argue. But Rodgers is far from his standard at 220.
    What I am saying is that 200 passing yards can win a game as long as you make good decisions.
    Oh and the standard thing was a joke if you actually read post instead of inferring and then going off like a nut job.

  32. By H.M.G. on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Still continuing to bash Ponder.

  33. By OTKalil2012 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    This game was HUGE in the division…

    I am a Lions fan within the division now also !!!…

    Because the Vikings own the tie breaker with the Lions !!!…

    Lions have 2 games against the Packers yet…There last game is against the Bears !!!…

    We play the last game against the Packers…

    If the Bears lose that last game…Or include a Packers loss in just one of their 2 games with the Lions ??…

    Lets just say…

    If the Vikings can split their division games with the Bears and Packers…Things will get VERY interesting…Come that last game of the Season !!!


  34. By H.M.G. on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    This site is full of cretins, worms, a cheese stick munchers.
    I’m done with it some of you “guys” are so darn pathetic you can’t ever be happy for a guy when he does well.
    If you like big numbers so much why not go jump on Aaron Rodgers’ sack.

  35. By ponder, aka 3 and out on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    AD won the game, too bad we don’t have a passing game to complament the running game

  36. By OTKalil2012 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    A Vikings 9-7 season…Could well be enough to win this division yet…

    And if that happens…The Vikings might end up being division champions…

    Bears play Houston tonight…

    And 49ers next week, when the Vikings are on the bye week…Next week the Lions square off with the Packers in Lionsville…

    I won’t be bored during the Vikings bye week… ; )

  37. By Ponder is the answer on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway…we won so give up on the webb stuff for a day…In my eyes ponder did very well despite still having players in his face…Stafford didn’t have pressure most of the game! Ponder is the answer!

  38. By HCG. on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    The skull of “EASY EY”, looted by grave robbers. Exclusive coverage, only on

  39. By Shawn on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Good grief … Ponder played well, give it a rest. See what happens Nostradamus.

  40. By Ponder is the answer on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Time to prepare for chicago!!!!!! SKOLLLL!!!!

  41. By Shawn on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder brought his “A” game and with AP thats all you need. Dont need 300 yards passing with AP.

    200 is good enough. Ponder did that.

  42. By Immure on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Missed the Boat aka 3 and out-

    I wouldn’t say A.P. won the game considering that the team was already winning at the time he got his T.D. and most of his yards. Did he help us win? Absolutely. This was a team win and even though you don’t want to admit Ponder was a big contributor and a big part of the reason why we won today.

  43. By ponder, aka 3 and out on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    200 is good enough to win the Lions, not good enough to win a playoff spot, or go deep in the playoffs

  44. By Nicholas on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    More balanced games please. Thanks.

  45. By 1vikingsfan on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Well parkway we do not like your attitude well at least not me. Just relax and enjoy the victory. Ponder did better than half of the QBs that played. He didnt threw a pick he didnt do a big mistake. Just enjoy for now see where we end up. We all have something in common we are all Vikings fan I think ha

  46. By ponder, aka 3 and out on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    AD did win the game, he sets up the play action pass. if we didn’t have a great runningback, Ponder would of lost the game

  47. By Shawn on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    By ponder, aka 3 and out on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply
    200 is good enough to win the Lions, not good enough to win a playoff spot, or go deep in the playoffs


    You are challenged mentally.

    200 passing plus 190 rushing = 390 yards of offense.

    Thats good offense. Good enough for any game.

  48. By sandiamond on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    OTK Chicago is an odd looking bunch at home. Offense In slow mo ?

  49. By Bigfan1 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Now this is the Vikings, great game. AP is unreal and Wright is a great alternate to Harvin.

  50. By OTKalil2012 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    These Lions the Vikings beat twice this season…Have already played one game with the Bears…Bear won that game 13-7…

    Someone said above…Do you think Ponder throwing for 225 yards and 2 TD’s will beat the Bears ???…

    If AP even has a decent game in Bear country…

    I will take todays numbers from Ponder into Chicago…

    No problem…

  51. By Nicholas on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    That is also assuming that our defense allows a certain amount of points and yards as well.

  52. By 1vikingsfan on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Why would you want big #s from ponder if we have Adrian Peterson? He did enough for me to be satisfied. Im happy for him. Idc what you negative people think but im happy for him. You guys are just never satisfied. Just enjoy this!

  53. By Shawn on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Correction we had 403 yards of offense …. and 34 minute ToP

  54. By sandiamond on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Im just starting to realize Peterson can take us to the promised land!! haha

  55. By 32frank12 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Ok dont get me wrong. Ap had a great game but he did not have that many yards in the first half. He had what 48 yds at half. Look what Ponder did in the first half with no much of a run game going at the time. Admit Ponder haters he played a good game and we won be happy sheesh!!!!!

  56. By OTKalil2012 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply


    Heading for another away game on grass in 2 weeks ???…

    We will have our work cut out for us…for sure…

    But it is the “BLACK & BLUE” division !!!… : )

  57. By Shawn on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    had 403 yards of offense and do’pey is saying not good enough … good grief

    only Detroit and New England average more than 403 yards offense per week.

  58. By Richard1A on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Me, loose faith! not at all! they looked today. Not at the flesh eating purple people munching level but they looked good!

  59. By OTKalil2012 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    I wasn’t even going to mention this…But seeing as everyone is throwing stats AGAINST Ponder…

    AP only had 55 yds going into the 4th quarter of play today…So you can thank Ponders passing game…For setting up the run late into today’s game…When it comes down to it…

    This was a TEAM win !!!…I am sure Ponder is not patting himself on the back for this win…But I see no reason to be mad, at how he played today either ???…

  60. By chris b on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Peterson should be the MVP. Keep it up. Hes the reason we won. Hes the reason we have won every game this season. Ponder lost us a few but hasnt won us any.

  61. By Sott R on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    What a bunch of idiot coaches! to not have J Wright and Percy on the field at the same time ! What a great job of recognizing talent! what a great job of gameplanning! Who is running this show? Win or lose FIRE MUSGRAVE, put Frazier on notice!

  62. By chris b on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Kalil that a lye get your facts straight he didnt rush for 120 yrd in the 4th. He had 75 or 85 going into the 4th

  63. By sandiamond on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Bears a fluke?

  64. By ponder, aka 3 and out on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    you think Ponder is going to pass for 200 every game? he already had 2 games for under 70 yards per game. he is unstable and not reliable

  65. By ponder, aka 3 and out on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is bad on the road too. most of the games left are on the road

  66. By OTKalil2012 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Cris b…Sorry…

    Wrong stats on AP…I looked it up..

    It was only 47 yards on the ground stats for AP…
    Through 3 quarters of play…NOT 55…

  67. By sdvikefan on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    at titus and viking bob and all of the gloomy predictors for the game. I told you this would be an interesting game. Percy’s 11 touches were distributed to other players Simpson and Jarius got 7 and the rest were by the offensive TEAM. Coaching staff did enough resulting in longer chunks of yardage and getting all involved. As I mentioned, it was hard for Detroit to get a read on players with limited opps due to limited playing time and injuries. Keep hammering on CP and the coaches. We need that down the stretch :)

  68. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply


  69. By C'mon Man! on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway, you are the most pathetic fan on this site. Get off your little hate wagon, we won. idiot.

  70. By 1vikingsfan on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Thank you “C’mon man!” been wanting for someone to notice that to

  71. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply


  72. By VikingFanatic209 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    we cleaned up sum areas of concern this week…good win…..we needed it ……just thankful it was against a divisional opponent but we got sum better 1s ahead…..lets keep it up…and build off this 1. I have to say it was a well coached and executed game plan. Ponder looked good and there were sum players that stepped up big 2day……skol vikes!!!!!!

  73. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Texans are helping us– heck we may be only two games out of first in a couple hours– just need to sweep the Bears and Packers and we are in for sure.

  74. By borgiskhaan on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    thank you! happy holiday, enjoy being minnesota VIKINGS

  75. By Immure on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Titus- It would be great if we could sweep the Bears and Packers but I don’t think we will. I’ll be happy if we just split the series with each of them. 4-2 is still alot better then 0-6.

  76. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Bears are tough– split. But Packers, we will sweep.

  77. By john 61 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    its fun to read these comments when they win,before all you were saying they were done,if your going to be a fan be a fan win or lose, there a very young team that needs help, i still belive they need a new oc,and wideout then they will good ,great win vikes

  78. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Well, before the season, I predicted 7-3 at the BYE– I was surprised by the Indy loss, but other than that I feel this season meets my expectations, except of course for the past couple weeks of Ponder’s play— I am still concerned– one bad outing, will he fall apart into a downward spiral? I agree with John– Musgrave should go– and then I think we are on our way.

  79. By 32frank12 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Go Texans!! Bears do not look that good so far. Yeah they got a few turnovers but it is bc of bad weather but other than that the Bears do not look great like advertised. I think this team is real beatable. I think the Vikings will come in after the bye and play the bears real hard and could maybe take the W if they play like they did today.

  80. By Rudso on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Unbelievable, we win with a GOOD game from Ponder and you guys still cry like little b i t c h e s. It’s almost like some “fans” want the Vikings to lose just so they can say “I told you so” about Ponder and his future as the Viking’s QB.

    Do you guys not know how to enjoy a WIN? Ponder yet again proves he can be a good QB when his O-line is blocking.

    All I hear is excuses for why we won. “Well if we didn’t have AP Ponder would of lost”, well we DO have AP and we DID win.

    The only thing “pathetic” is that some of you call your selves fans. To the real Purple and Gold fans……SKOL VIKINGS!!!

  81. By 32frank12 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Thank you Rudso!….if they want to complain about winning and stuff they can go find another team!

  82. By Troutdaddy on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Big difference in being a Ponder lover and a Ponder supporter. I have always been supportive of him but I am not going to pull any punches when he has a poor game. I merely speak the facts. The fact is that he had a great game today. Earth-shattering- no, but still he did a great job at taking care of the football and made heads-up throws. Give him props for that and quit belittling the fact that he had a good game. I was hoping to see Webb come in today if Ponder started off poorly, but I am glad that we did not have to do so. I would rather see our starting QB get the experience and succeed. This was a big game to get him back in the groove and I think it worked… Fingers crossed. Now- if Musgrave can do the same thing going forward then that will be the icing on the cake. That was the factor today is that he got so many people involved. Wright- yeah baby! Rudolph, Woo Hoo! Even Aroma and Jenkins showed glimmers today. Sherels was even fired up. This is how we need to be going forward. Period.

  83. By H.M.G. on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Agree Rudso.
    The fact of the matter is they have nothing better to do then act like whinny little kindergarteners.

  84. By H.M.G. on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Vikings fans your team just one the Super Bowl.
    Loyal normal fans” YAY! AWESOME! GREATEST TEAM EVER”
    Whinny little Cheese stick eating p!ssANT fans”Ponder is a awful QB and will never amount to anything. WAH! WAH! WAH!”
    Loyal fans”He just won the SB”
    p!ssANT fans”But he did’t throw for 400 yards”
    normal fans”HE WON THE SB”
    p!ssANT fans”But he has black hair”

  85. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Be insane and seriously ill… you truly are a middle schooler.

    You gotta keep picking on me… what a prize you are. So Wobbs is talking to me, – THE ONLY PONDER CRITIC IN THE WORLD. HA

    You want a Ponder action figure, go to Toys r Us, you want to talk football, talk football.

    And you are just naive enough to think because he had this game – against a bad Detroit football team – that he is good. That ONE game of his last 5 was a decent performance – the others embarrassing…. and one game makes all the garbage go away.

    If it makes you feel better, I am happy.

  86. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Rudso, tell it like it is, my man! Awesome posting of truth and reality!

    TRUE FANS ARISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  87. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Vlad, have some fun– relax dude! Enjoy the day.

  88. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Reading some of this blog, it is amazing how vehement the Ponder lovers have suddenly become….. he has been about the worst QB in football, but he has a “breakout game” of 221 yards, and suddenly the critics are nuts…. Wow, such leaps of faith…..

    The guy has now started 20 games, he has a career record of 7 wins????? Or is it 8????? He has the best running back in football since Jim Brown – and yes, Jim Brown is/was the best ever still – and Ponder has scratched out modest numbers at best.

    But this one game makes him good.
    Okay, I’ll bite.

    So what is this “good as Brees” QB going to do against Chi? Anyone want to make bets? Over under of 175 yds? 2 Ints?

    Llsten the most offensive thing is the Ponder lovers attack fans who speak critically of the football player….. we talk about the football player.

    Who is the nutjob after all HMG?

  89. By H.M.G. on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    You Vlad you annoying p!ssant!

  90. By H.M.G. on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Never give anyone credit for anything they ever do. Thats what you want right?
    Tom Brady $ucks because he has not won a SB in years.
    I can be just like you Vlad. Now why don’t you go make out with your boyfriend Aaron Rodgers. Go enjoy your 3 way with him and Clay Matthews.

  91. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    ponder played well, NO doubt. It doesn’t mean he has the merit or ability to do this consistently, and in MY version of reality, until the guy becomes proficient, the jury is still out, and seeing how badly he HAs actually played, it is NOT unreasonable (even while many here assault any commenter) to speak of those shortcomings, so I don’t get all the hostility for fellow FANS who speak THEIR minds about that player.

    If he isn’t your father or brother, he is a football player in the light of public perception and opinion.

    Now if Ponder plays this manageable game, YES we can win, primarily because we have Peterson and a defense that plays good emotional football. But IF Ponder starts puking himself, the game runs away fast. It is a causal relationship. Fact.

    As a Viking fan, I HOPE he plays well and wins Super Bowls. It is my opinion, as difficult as the NFL game comes to him, apparently, I doubt he has a great career, but a working man’s career is llikely – 6-8 years and maybe 3-4 years of “starter”.

    While I STILL HOPE he wins us a Super Bowl.

  92. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Yes, Vlad, I had to take a step back and reflect– am I unreasonable toward this fellow blogger? And I recall all of your subtle, but arrogant digs as to my insights over the past few weeks, if not longer– Yes, Titus, I enjoy reading your posts, but– and you go on in essence to say my viewpoint falls short of your great football knowledge. Ponder was in the top ten on ESPN for the first five or six weeks of the season– hmmm. Guess Vlad, with all his football jargon, knows it all. I will not tolerate arrogance, sir.

  93. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    I like these Texans.

  94. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    And what else would I expect from you MSG????

    Can’t hold your water in debate, call people names…. Ponder does well to have such supporters as you, inflated windbag!

    Because you can call me names doesn’t mean you know anything about football but everything about offensive posturing.

  95. By Parkway on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    C’mon man, gain a higher level of thinking. Access the analytic portion of your brain.

  96. By Parkway on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Many of you seem unable to understand logic. A few bad games doesn’t make Ponder bad, but one mediocre game makes him a god among mortals. The next Tom Brady and Drew Brees combined into one genius QB.

    It’s quite comical the way some of you think.

  97. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    You post as TWO people on here and I need a life? Interesting.

    I don’t come on here much, and it is because of the name calling and abuse that comes form those who demand you agree with them “or else”

    You talk about arrogance? I speak of the game and of the players. YOU come looking for me. Moving on.

  98. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway, there is little to this reasoning stuff.

    Ponder is great, that’s all. He is our answer. Just like T-Jack a few years ago. I saw all the SAME silly arguments then.

    Man it is amazing what a 221 yd day does.

  99. By Parkway on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    It’s true. I heard he can even walk and chew gum at the same time. Incredible.

  100. By 1vikingsfan on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    So thats how the bears look without their defense scoring for them. And about ponder I know It’s just one game but we are all happy he finally played a good game. We will see how does it goes. Its weird also how nobody is asking for Joe Webb if ponder didnt play good enough for some people ummm:\

  101. By Rudso on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    If the jury is still out on Ponder than why are all the Ponder haters so negative on him and so fast to pull the plug huh?

    I’m backing my HOPE in Ponder with what I see when his O-line is blocking for more than 3 seconds and when his receivers are getting open. Not when he is running for his life like he did vs. Seattle. Rodgers and Brady barley survived that game, what did you expect from a “in process” 2nd year QB???

    You’re quick to forget what Ponder did in the beginning of THIS season, how he man handled the 49ers GREAT defense yet you bring up LAST seasons stats when you know that was a “perfect storm” type season for us.

    You want a taste of your own medicine? Eli Manning has thrown for 0 TD’s and 4 INTs in his last 3 games. Let me guess, he sucks too huh…..he doesn’t have what it takes right……….I bet he’s a working man to who has 6 years and 3 years as a starter.

  102. By Rudso on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Some people just want to sit in the dark and watch the world burn I guess. I feel sorry for you guys, I really do.

    Have a good night everyone, it was a good day. Skol Vikings!

  103. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    I KNOW…. I saw him do it at his presser! I almost fell down!

    The satire is on high as I read the full out assault on me and you and couple others, but the rioters came out for me, namecalling and all, simply because I make a cogent argument WHY Ponder should NOT be anointed a saint just yet (unless it is a NO Saint, then I am all for it).

    What I don’t understand is their hostility? My opinions have been made of a football player and because I do not agree with them, they just offend.

    Having an intelligent debate is lost on some of them. I dig how Kalil can get into a discussion even if disagreeing and talk about it, make his argument and friendly debate, he doesn’t decide to throw f-bombs – why would anyone need to resort to such things?

    Don’t understand the hostility.

  104. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Rudzo, you made my very own points…. because Eli had a worse game than Ponder, Ponder is better than Manning? I have heard a few posters actually make such leaps of fancy.

    If you read ALL my posts, you would have seen me state numerous time, I like the kid, he is a good kid. He is not a good QB. The excuses made for his young career, while other YOUNGER guys are tearing it up, throwing downfield with bravado… the things a QB needs to do.

    I am NOT a Ponder hater – that is the moniker fan supporters of Ponder have given his vocal critics (aka, in my response to the “ponder-hater” vibe, I calll “Ponder lovers”). Why? Because we speak critically of the bigger picture?

    I WANT him to succeed. I want him to make me eat crow, I will eat it all day long. I simply state, Speilman missed with this one, and I believe we will be looking for another QB sooner than he or WE would have wished. That is all. Why the verbal abuse – you and the Ponder supporters get to make your case, I only disagreed.

    But I also stated a few times here, Ponder played WELL (not great as some suggest) and I am delighted. Doesn’t mean he is cured. That deserves the namecalling? I talk of a football player’s performance and get the verbal assault. Just don’t get it.

  105. By vikingsfan1955 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    I will say from the start I was a ponder supporter but we have to be real the 3 games before todays game were so bad who wouldn’t call for him to be benched. that said the way detroit has been playing webb would have won this game. Now back to ponder he was the ponder that started the yr and the recievers were good recievers today and he spread the ball around very well. i’m still a supporter of ponders but riding the fence. Come out of the bye week and beat chicago then I will say he has learned from the losses and is back on track. Wright has to be in the game theres no way he doesn’t get more playing time after today.We beat chicago and the packers will know it will be no cake walk and I feel we have the talent to beat chicago and gb.

  106. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Vlad and Parkway, sorry for the news: You are not as smart as you think you are.

  107. By Parkway on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    LOL there goes Titus with the personal attacks. Stay classy San Diego

  108. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    I love these Texans.

  109. By Frederick Jones on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply


    On the 61 yard TD run I saw a cross block by Sullivan that set him free. I also saw Sullivan make several other great blocks. Kalil seemed to have a near perfect day. Loadholt made at least one great block on a long Peterson run. I don’t know about Fusco, Johnson, or Schwartz.

    The Lions are supposed to have a great defensive line, so this was good news for the Vikings.

    Jones was least impressed by the defensive line. Granted the d backs were somewhat porous as usual, but we have come to expect more from the d line.

  110. By Frederick Jones on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    On the road again…just can’t wait to get on the road again..with the best of friends…those Chicago Bears again…The Green Bay Pack again…

  111. By vikingsfan1955 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Who says 200 yards can’t win the sb or get you to the playoffs. Check and see how defense wins games more that offense and you will see if the D playes very well and the qb manages the game well no turnovers then yes we can win and remember the rush yards also count as offensive yards.

  112. By Frederick Jones on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    On the road again…run Harvin and Peterson on Third Downs..Throw the ball down the field…play Wright, Simpson, and Harvin at the same time…Put pressure on the passer…hands up…let Gerhart in the game when you take Peterson out…Gerhart…ever heard tell of him?

  113. By Frederick Jones on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

  114. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Titus the great speaks again… and again take a shot at Vlad and Parkway.

    Making the blog a personal slam fest. Nice.

    I only speak my mind on football – let the stones be cast..

    Et tu Bruti?

  115. By Spencer on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Y’all need to calm down and stop arguing…..WE WON.

  116. By OTKalil2012 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Texans are going to WIN !!!

  117. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Jonesy, you are correct, absolutamente! The line was good. Ponder stayed in the pocket as well as possible and the line hit people and all day. There was a facemask in each facemask other than a couple whiffs. But the best performance we have seen on a balanced game attack. Great to see.

    As always, good and bad performances a line has much to do with each. This was good to watch.

  118. By Frederick Jones on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Vlad and Titus should knock it off!!

    Hey..the Vikings are 6-4 and could very well contend for the playoffs. Let’s enjoy the wins and try not to harp on every little disagreement we have…myself included!!

  119. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Thank you Houston!!

  120. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    You are right Fred– I am bigger than this.

  121. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    The one funny thing I saw as commentary in Wobs cover is his remarks about Wright, like he is installed immediately and always WAS a part of this year’s plan…. yet there he toiled on practice squad for 8 games… and the talk is like this performance was always expected…. yet they took HOW LONG to finally bring the kid up?

    Nice work Mr Wright, welcome to the NFL. I think you already have outpaced Aromashodu this season! Kudos!

  122. By Frederick Jones on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply


    It’s actually fun to try to pick out those blocks when your line is blocking well. On some of Peterson’s replays I looked for the blocks.

    You know you’ll see the run again on or on TV.

  123. By 32frank12 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    With the Bears lose tonight we are only 2 games out of 1st place and the Bears play the niners next weekend could def lose that game and we could be going into the bears game with a chance to be taking the lead/share of 1st place in the divison skol!!

  124. By Frederick Jones on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Espn could make football more realistic and focus a camera or two on line play.

    But that would bore some people so they don’t do it.

  125. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Frederick, you will please notice the guy keeps coming to look for ME and gives me some snarky garbage.

    But you are right, I apologize to all the innocents here, this guy has sharpened his teeth for me and it is a pain. I reacted. Sorry. He doesn’t move me anymore.

    Thanks for bringing it to my attention Mr Jones. But if you were me…… not too sure everyone here wouldn’t respond to the namecalling.

    But I appreciate the reality check. Thanks.

  126. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    How is my good buddy Fred Jones?

  127. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Mr Jones, you are right, watching the line work was something that came as a pleasant – VERY pleasant surprise. Other than Fusco whiffing on one Sue swat and pounded Ponder, and Loadholt kinda whiffing a couple, they did outstanding work. Even Loadholt showed the willingness and mobility to MOVE to the rusher and cover that outside how rush, instead of the usual mail-in.

    Sully was outstanding. Wehn you can cover those two tackles the way our inside three did, they deserve a gameball as much as anyone!

  128. By Mark B on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Wanna talk stats? K, lets talk stats:
    This week:
    23 of 38 (60%) 237yards (24 yard long) 2 TD
    24 of 32 (75%) 221 yards (54 yard long) 2 TD

    Weeks 1-5
    124 of 187 (66%) 1450 yards (59 yard long) 8 TD
    109 of 158 (68%) 1082 yards (45 yard long) 6 TD

    Can you tell who is who?
    Tom Brady
    Christian Ponder

    Which of those two has more weapons? Which has more time in their system?

    The things Ponder needs for this offense to really start humming is:
    1. He needs TIME – time in the pocket, time in the system, time in the league. True there are rookie QBs that have come out of college and set the world on fire – NEWS FLASH – with a run first offense you don’t need (or really want) your QB to do that. But aside from that, there have always been those that come out and play well but more often than not they tend to flame out. Look at Brady, Brees, Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers – what one thing do they all have in common? Not one of them came right out of college and played like they currently do (well, Manning looked an aweful lot like he has the last couple weeks). A year and a half is not a large enough body of work to judge a young QB, especially with the supporting cast he has – which leads me to point 2.
    2. He needs a CONSISTENT deep threat. Someone outside of Percy (and the occasional Rudolph sighting) needs to step up and beat 1-1 coverage on a consistent basis. Right now what teams do is load the box, play press coverage and they cover about 80% of our offense – get someone (maybe a healthy Greg Childs) to blow the back end off the defense, force them to honor the deep pass, and I will guarantee that the passing game will improve.

  129. By Frederick Jones on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

  130. By H.M.G. on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Vlad if you actually gave the guys on the team the credit they deserve(Ponder played well and you act like he is sh!t) maybe I would think you points have value but being as you just spout off like jack@ss you in fact deserve to be treated like a jack@ss.

  131. By OTKalil2012 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Bears next 5 games…


    Packers next 5 games…


    Its going to get interesting…

  132. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    HMG, the gentleman mocked me for weeks and then wonders why I “sharpened my teeth.” In fact, he sits atop his inflated football throne denouncing any views contrary to his own– and wonders why he reaps what he does. Well, look back at your seed. I think, though, as my good friend Fred Jones pointed out that we not bicker with one another.

  133. By H.M.G. on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Mark B
    That is exactly how most of us Ponder supporters see it. But others want to jump up his @ss if he even sneezes.

  134. By GrandDaddyPurp on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Rodgers, Cutler, Stafford would all do amazing things with our running game/back. Ponder did what we needed him to do to win and that’s play smart. There are still MANY aspects of his game he needs improvement in so Wobbs and friends dont praise him like he won the game himself just as the other QBs I named have done on a number of occasions. I can only hope that he doesn’t take a step back like the previous weeks.

    Jarius Wright. I’m glad I was finally able to see what he can for us. Looking forward to his development in this offense. I cant wait to see Spielman’s next draft class. What a draft this has turned out to be for us.

    Did I miss something? I dont think…Oh yeah!


  135. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    OT– clearly the Vikes have destiny in their hands. If Bears lose next week, they may be very ornery when we meet them– better to see the Niners lose, but in a hard fought game leaving the Bears bruised, but with big egos– set it up for us to beat them.

  136. By Frederick Jones on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Mike B.,

    I think even the Viking coaches had to be having some doubts about Ponder after the last 3 games. But I think C.h.r.i.s.t.i.a.n. has erased a lot of those doubts, and he will be the starter the rest of the season.

    (They probably told him in pre-season it was his job to lose anyway, or maybe they just told him “you’re my quarterback.”)

    Jones will continue to maintain that, down the road, JOE has a larger upside. But JOE may never get a chance to show it with the Vikings.

  137. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    MSG, a refreshing wind.

    You still didn;t bother reading any of the praise I have given Ponder – he played well. Maybe you want something more from me, but it isn;t coming, because, while I agree significantly with the astute poster above Mark B, there is a lot about Ponder’s game that does indeed work as a shadow to the running game, thus maybe influencing his less than stellar performances to date.

    I speak in counter point to the robust fanfare over a 221 yd game. I just put it in perspective. I diodn’t trash Ponder except to say I don’t believe he is all that, and I believe that he will not be our long term QB. But I also have said no less than probably 50 times I HOPE I am wrong.

    And for THAT I deserve your abuse?

    Moving on.

  138. By H.M.G. on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    You maybe right Titus.
    I guess being the better person is what I should do. Although I am sick of other cutting down a young player who is trying to get better.

  139. By Immure on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    By ponder, aka 3 and out on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder better step his game up against Chicago, he won’t win with 225 yards passing in that game. Ponder still stinks up the joint

    Apparently a QB can throw for less than 100 yards and still beat the Bears.

  140. By Frederick Jones on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry I think I meant to address Mark B.

  141. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Man, you guys are something else…. I left highschool long time ago. Make sure you enjoy your bonfire. I am talking football, and my OPINIONS.

    Why is that such a horrible thing for you two?

    Frederick, and other esteemed posters that is the last I will post in regards to those “posters” who have expressed their love for me, and I will lay bets it is not the last you will hear from them about me.

    Good night to the faithful and tolerant. It is fun to talk football. Sorry if the arguments have muddied the blog. I will do my best to be more cordial to all going forward.

  142. By James on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    I agree, how can you not have wright and harvin on the field at the same time!!!!!! These coaches r dumb

  143. By Frederick Jones on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Vlad and Titus,

    Jones knows well what it’s like to be called names or belittled for comments he may have made. FRED has never enjoyed that. However it is fun to banter about the Vikings.

    70% of communication is non-verbal. I bet that like me, you have found that your conversations off of (real life) were often quite different!!!

    LEON: “A good quarterback would have beaten the Vikings.”
    JONES: Yes, Yes, Yes.

  144. By Jimmy on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    A Viking win and Ponder hatred. Guess Ponder should throw for 300 yards a TD and 3 INTs. That might make some of you all happy. Lets see usually when a QB throw for that many yards it means either he is playing catch up or his team has no running game.

  145. By Jimmy on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Oh we have Adrian Peterson the GREATEST RB IN THE GAME. He runs for at least 125 almost every game. Then there is always the chance of him breaking a big one making it closer to 200 yards a game. A QB with Peterson needs only to not make mistakes to win. Ponder today and the first 4 games made little to no mistakes. There fore Ponder is doing well.

  146. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Thanks Frederick. Appreciate the insight. Titus says I have been hounding him for weeks or something, and I haven’t been on the blog but for last night and tonight and maybe a couple weeks AGO. I don’t visit much.

    But I will tell you all this, I talk about football here, and I share my VIEW and OPINIONS, and I debate cordially and it is usually returned as such. Not sure why this one went crazy.

    I will work at silence is golden practice when next taken on as robustly as I have the last two days.

    As for speaking opinions on the blog, it is harmless and only reflects one man/woman’s perspective. Why hate a person for that?

    Tolerance. It’s a good thing.

  147. By Frederick Jones on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply


    You are correct on that one.

    What about if he throws for 300 yards, 3 tds and no interceptions? Should we still be happy with his play? I would think so, unless he fumbled the ball away several times.

    The reality is that some people will never be happy with the current qb, they always want the backup. Jones falls into that category except that now Ponder has the experience, and should start.

    But there is no good reason why JOE should not relieve Ponder when he is going bad!

  148. By H.M.G. on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Numbers don’t matter. Wins do.

  149. By GrandDaddyPurp on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    I think Sanford should remain the starter despite Raymond’s return

  150. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Jones, it may even be higher than 70%, and actually, research shows people do not even think through language, but in images. So, that is why there is so much misunderstanding– underneath every word could be dozens of intended meanings.

  151. By Frederick Jones on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply


    I like seeing that name Vlad on there. Vlad easily tops Ghenhis Khan, Hitler, Mussillini, Stalin, etc. as the most ruthless ruler of all time. Unfortunately there isn’t much info on him like all the others. (Internet, and one book)

    Where did you get that name, or can’t you reveal your source?

  152. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Your last post Frederick is perfect. It nailed it as well as anything possible. My sentiments EXACTLY.

    This game does not cure anything and does not assure anything. It was ONE game, just like a future HOFer Eli Manning has just had a couple horseradish games, but doesn;t change who the guy is.

    Coaches must respond to personnel and the failures and successes. If Eli has carp game, NO, you don;t change him out (not a infinitive remark, because time changes all things). If a second year guy struggles with greater consistency than he finds success, YES, you must consider options. If wining is your goal.

  153. By GrandDaddyPurp on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    I expect us to win at home. We have one of the loudest crowds in the league. I’m looking to see Ponder play smart, turnover-free football on the road. It needs to happen if we are going to make the playoffs.

  154. By Frederick Jones on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply


    Yes, I have heard that people think through images.

    Sometimes powerful people clash. I can remember some of my favorite bloggers fighting. I could list their names right now, even though they argued years ago!!!

    It’s like talking politics, sometimes it gets nasty!

  155. By GrandDaddyPurp on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    So yeah guys we had a game today. I dont know if you saw we won!

  156. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Frederick, I am married 26 years, father of 2, coach Little League and work two businesses, one abroad…. I am as regular as ham n swiss on rye.

    The nickname was from many years ago, my very first Fantasy Football league (back in 1977) we all chose “scary names” as we were all 19-20 yr old kids haivng fun. Mine stuck only in football pools and blogs.

    The tyranny ended when I got married I guess you could say, 1986! Now I must listen more than talk – daughter in grad school in Mpls and son in freshman year of HS, and wife with cancer who owns our world.

    Real scary guy, huh? HA

  157. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Nice one GrandDaddy… yeah, we did notice.. between the missile launches! HA!

    Thanks for the comedic relief, brings me back to ground.

    So how bout dem Vikings?

  158. By Frederick Jones on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply


    That is a cool story about how you chose your blogger name. I also like to think that the Vikings being from Europe originally, have this scary guy with them. It is a perfect nickname for this blog!!!

  159. By GrandDaddyPurp on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Well Vlad Ponder still has work to do as well as the rest of the team.

    Another Sunday and we come out with a crucial division win in the books. Good Day.

    What a great time for a bye right before the hardest part of our schedule to close out the regular season.

  160. By Frederick Jones on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply


    I hope your wife has a quick recovery from cancer.

  161. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Agreed gradDaddy, HUGE win— best part about this kind of commentry, it shows life in the fan base that play-offs are still our hope, collectively. Good thing indeed.

  162. By GrandDaddyPurp on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    As long as Speilman is our GM I am confident he will get the talent this team needs to win a superbowl. The X factor of a Vikings superbowl win will be the coaching, thats the way its always been for us. Hopefully Fraizer is our guy, I really hope he is we dont need another coaching change.

    Well its getting late and my eyes are closing on me. Good day and goodnight Vikings Faithful.


  163. By H.M.G. on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe I have been a little harsh towards you and I am sorry for that. But I dislike how people are cutting down Ponder(not just you). Even when he does well.

  164. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Thanks Frederick, she has a blood cancer called Mycosis Fungoides… diagnosed 10 years ago – 11 in January. Managing with oral chemo and life. It doesn’t stop coming just because you have cancer. But she is doing VERY well the last 3 years and has things well n balance. THAT is success as right now there is no cure.

    BUT, always hope and always life to live anyway. Thanks for kind wishes.

  165. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Let’s keep Vlad’s wife lifted in prayer for full healing.

  166. By OTKalil2012 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    You learn through adversity…

    How is Ponder going to learn anything…If he is already the best QB in football ???…

    Ponder is the Vikings QB…The Vikings are 6-4…With only 6 games left after the bye week…Ponder will remain the QB the rest of this season…Unless injured…

    Good heavens…The Vikings are in the hunt for a playoff spot…Maybe the division title !!!…

    Webb is not going to even be considered as an option going forward this season…Unless something does happen to Ponder…

    So why debate this subject to death ???…

    Vikings made some very good adjustments on the team this past week…Why are we not talking more about that ???…

  167. By H.M.G. on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    I wish your wife well. Hopefully soon there will be a cure.
    Lost my Uncle to pancreatic cancer a few years ago.

  168. By OTKalil2012 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Already prayers sent your way Vlad…

  169. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    HMG, takes bigger man to apologize, and I accept yours. My retaliation remarks were no less offensive. Also sorry.

    As for “cutting down” Ponder, I think you need to read the full message I send. If I am just talking football – Xs and Os and how to win and win consistently, I will speak ONLY of those fundamental things — and it is my opinion, having been around the game, played it some and loved and studied it like a “nut-job” most of my life, some guys have the intangibles and you can SEE it in them….

    The willingness to throw the ball with gusto, to throw downfield, with authority, even if hitting goalposts and not receivers… a brazen DEMAND of themselves to do damage on EVERY play if they can…. That is lacking in Ponder. He plays careful and it is how he played in Fl State ( I live in Fl and see a LOT of him).

    And as I see this investment as a mistake, I speak to is and level the conversation when it goes on to forget the awful play that also makes the man.

    So no, I don;t HATE Ponder. I LIKE the young man very much. I support him at Kick-off though, and HOPE he does brilliant things.

    but I do not argue out of pompous will, I just state my belief, he will not be our long term answer. And I HOPE HE IS, cause I would love to be done searching as we have so long.


  170. By OTKalil2012 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    I have felt much sorrow do to cancer also…

    I lost a sister to ovarian cancer a few years ago…

  171. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Thank you all. For my wife and your well wishing and prayers. very nice of all of you.

    Hope you will forgive my sometime cutting remarks still sure to flow, however! HA!

    More comedic relief.

    You are right kalil, and as I stated earleir in the blog after the game, this game assured Ponder finishes, good or bad as starter. Deservedly too as he played a very good, well-managed game. Did little to nothing wrong, and that CAN help a team win BIG football games.

    But thanks for the kind remarks. She is doing very well and managing with a handful of horsepills in the am and in pm. Confident she will outlive me… tyrants tend to die young!

  172. By Immure on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Speaking of cancer, did anyone see the Chris Speilman: A Football Life special a couple weeks ago? It was very touching.

  173. By OTKalil2012 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply


    I did laugh at one play Ponder made today…After one of his pass completions…He made a very feeble effort on a “fist pump” of victory…

    It was like Ponder wasn’t sure if it was okay to get excited about the play, or not ???…hahaha…

  174. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Very sorry Kalil – just lost my oldest brother June of 11 to lung cancer as well. It is a hateful, non-discriminating illness.

    Wish the powers of the world fought cancer as vigorously as fans battle over opinions and games! It’s be done within a few years.

  175. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    I saw part of that special Immure, and yes it was poignant as heck…. trouble is, when you live with this stuff, you rarely watch the programs that remind you of your struggle – you live above it and wish not to be reminded.

    But yes, it is a great story.

  176. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    I lost my mother six years ago to liver cancer– disease from h.e.l.l.

  177. By Vlad19 on Nov 11, 2012 | Reply

    Kalil, I did not see the fist pump thing… HA! Funny though. Maybe a litle unfamiliar with the moment…. out of fist-pumping practice, maybe???? HA! OR perhaps just a little too demure for his own good.

    I would LOVE to see Ponder start pumping his fists!

    A QB doesn’t need to be a Jay Cutler, but I DO believe he must captivate his teammates as a true leader. Yes, it can come by attrition, but it IS one of those intangibles I speak of. Some have it naturally. Some never get it. (Ryan Leaf, Heath Shuler, Tim Couch… names go on and on).

    Hope he keeps pumping that fist.

  178. By Vlad19 on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    It’s hard Titus, and no one is far removed from the illness.


  179. By Vlad19 on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Well this day has come around.

    Good night all.

    Peace and goodwill – and no cancer!!!

  180. By OTKalil2012 on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    I know….Ponder is learning to have FUN !!!…

    I can see it…Its coming…

  181. By OTKalil2012 on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply


    Take care my friend…Have a good night…

    And too all…This guy is gone also…

  182. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Yes, past my bedtime.

  183. By sean on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    does anyone really care what the haters think.. this is our team we stand behind them and only they will prove what they are capable of

  184. By Erik the Red on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Yes, I was one of those guys bashing Ponder after last week, and it’s because he showed to confidence in his “abilities”. As I said in another blog, if he can win these next three games and post up solid stats, then I will take back what I said and send him an apology letter, but we have to see what happens. And go Adrian Peterson! Next game try and get to 8,000 career yards, that would be cool ;P and SKOL VIKINGS!

  185. By Erik the Red on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    showed no*** comfidence

  186. By Erik the Red on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply


    Man, am I on a roll. anyway, sleep well my Viking comrades, and may we send another team to Valhalla after next week!

  187. By Michael on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Eric, you’re pathetic and so is anyone else predicting what Ponder will be… If the great football minds of the Chargers could not predict how great Drew Brees was going to be then you “D” bags will not predict Ponders Future… If you’re a Vikings fan then you should support the young kid, you don’t bash him… For as long as the NFL has been in existence, young QB’s struggle!!! When you first started working (if you even have a job) learning the ends and outs of the company and your trade, how would you like someone bashing you non-stop while your trying to figure things out… These people are humans not robots.. Use your brain!!!

  188. By H.M.G. on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Peterson had 120 of his 171 yards in the 4th quarter. Just saying this was a team win and Ponder was an early and vital part to it.

  189. By H.M.G. on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe Ponder needs to express himself more but not all leaders are loud and in your face.

  190. By H.M.G. on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Earlier this year his was doing a six shooter salute after TDs.

  191. By Michael Utley on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Anyone else notice the spread offense we were running today?? It got Wright that deep pass down the field and it seemed like it gave both Ponder and the Wideouts more time…. I think if we continue with it and have Harvin and Wright in there, we could have ourselves quite a unique spread offensive attack…

  192. By SkolVikes98 on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    I know this has been repeated a 1000 times, but can we get Wright on the field on a regular basis please? I know Jenkins is a decent blocker, but come on Fraiser, get the talent on the field. He probably wasn’t ready to start the season, but he’s ready now.

  193. By Muskyfever on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    This was a great all around team win. D played great, Ponder was flinging the rock to a bunch of people, AP is still THE BEAST in the league, Recievers got separation. I actually watched Ponder on one of his throws, throw the reciever open.. That was pretty cool.

    Ponder looked very calm in the pocket, did well stepping up in the pocket, no fear in his eyes at all. Played very well. Lets just hope that the Ponder we saw Yesterday can stick around for awhile. I know young QB’s struggle and I will wait till the end of the season or next year to evalute him. He is bound to have some bad games coming up in the near future with the Dfenses that we will be facing after the bye. If he throws 3 picks to CHI, I can’t even be mad, they picked off Shwibbles last night 3 times I think… OR 2… either way.. So there will still be some end O’ season struggles, but yesterdays game was a huge step in the right direction.

    AP ALL DAY< AP ALL DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The second coming of Percy Harvin…. Jarius Wright… He played outstanding, had a monster of a first game in the NFL plus a TD. I really like him, I really hopw we can get him to play more often.

    Is it just me, or did it seem like Ponder had more confidence throwing the Rock without Harvin in there….???? I hope I am wrong about reading into that, just somthing I noticed, as he was looking for the open reciever, instead of looking for Harvin..??????? Just curious what other people think. If we could have Harvin and J. Wright for a long time, it could be great for us.

    O-line also played great… and the D of course, great all around team win…

    SKOL VIKINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  194. By Muskyfever on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    ALL DAY FOR MVP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  195. By Muskyfever on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Personally I think that we can only drop two games if we want to go into the playoffs this season. I don’t think that even with the tough schedules that the Packers or the Bears are going to drop too many games,. I expect the bears to drop 1 or 2 more then the pack so we need to stay on top as hard as possible. And with all of the division games on there way in, they are crucial that we win those…. CRUCIAL!!!!!!!!!

  196. By DrinkHeavy on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Schizophrenic Viking fans – you gotta love em. It’s either we’re going to the playoffs or get rid of Ponder, Frazier and everybody else. I said it before and I’ll say it again..MANAGE EXPECTATIONS. It’s not wise to get too high or too low with this 2012 Vikings team.

    Our record shows that we’ve made solid progress this year, but we can still finish at 6-10, especially with 5 games left vs Bears, Packers and Texans. As I said back in Aug, I would be satisfied with 7-9, happy at 8-8 and ecstatic at 9-7 this year given the team’s youth, our schedule and the division we play in. We’ll see just how much progress at the end of the year, so I would caution everyone to refrain from being overly optimistic or critical. I’m not sold on Spielman, Frazier, or Ponder, but to be fair, you have to give a coach and core group of players at least 3 years to prove to the fans what they could do, so the jury is still out as far as I’m concerned.

    Right now, my biggest concern is not Ponder, but the defense. Our offensive game plan doesn’t ask much of Ponder (right now), but if we can’t play better defense, the QB play won’t matter much on Soldier or Lambeau field in terms of wins/losses. Great offense is nice to watch, but defense wins you games, especially on the road. The difference between 6-10 and 9-7 is defense, not Ponder.

    So let’s be patient, keep some cold ones on hand during the game and try to enjoy the rest of the season.


  197. By 1vikingsfan on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    I really hope they find the cure for cancer. I think their is a cure because they found the breast cancer cure and maybe that one will lead to more cures. Where my sister going to the university students found the cure for HIV but it only stops it for a few time.

  198. By vikess86 on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Great win and a great team effort. I hope that musgrave reads these blogs. HEY MUSGRAVE!!!! Put Wright in. Listen to the fans. IF teams had a hard time dealing with harvin. What do you think they will do with harvin and wright and not to forget AP in the backfield. Ponder did good. He has to be and stay consistent. The bears and packers db’s and safeties are better than the lions. their defense is twice as better as the lions. I have seen games where the bears and the packers have lost. and the vikings rolled into town and got stomped. let it all hang out for 60 minutes. you see what seattle did with the pass from golden tate to sidney rice. We have the same ability and talent. we can do the same thing. GO VIKS

  199. By vikess86 on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    i heard that the coaches, when the players were in practice was playing tapes of the games that they were winning to show them that they could win. I think they need to show the minnesota/san fran game over and over again. for the next 3 weeks. To let the defense and offense know that they can not only hang with the best teams but beat the best teams. And if AP can run wild both harvin and wright play along with the supporting cast on offense. the oline holds up. And the d fense play as hard as they did in the san fran game. and arizona game. then we will do just fine the next five games. But it starts at the top from the coaches to the players. also it wouldn’t hurt to watch ray lewis a football life. We really need a leader like ray in the locker room. and i believe it will come soon.

  200. By David P on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Gret win for the vikings. But what I am about to say shows how ineffective the OC for the vikings is? Wright was on fire in the first quarter. Where was he the rest of the game? IT IS CALLED ADJUSTMENT. The lions adjusted and the vikings did not. Come on. The vikings would be a whole lot better if the OC was gotten rid of. Please in the future games learn something that all the other teams do. ADJUST, ADJUST. Musgrave being the OC for the vikings a HUGE, HUGE mistake.

  201. By sdvikefan on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    Did anyone watch the Bears game last night. The Texans kept Cutler inside the pocket the whole game. Cutler can be average when he can’t improvise. When Cutler did run, it was up the middle. Does anyone find it ironic that a QB can be declared a runner (by being flagged for passing past the line of scrimmage) and the opposing team can AT THE SAME TIME be flagged for hitting him high? I hope our coaches get a good defensive plan in place as well. We can win this one against the Bears.

  202. By Viking Mike on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    It was great to see Wright make a big play and have a TD, but honestly, my guess is that he’s still not NFL ready. If he was he would have been activated before this week. We caught Detroit off guard with the big pass play to him but after that they adjusted. We want to blame the coaches that they didn’t adjust, when it might just be the reality that Wright isn’t good enough to make plays when he’s well guarded. He’s definitely not as strong as Harvin.

    I hope Wright turns out to be great but he’s not a great deep threat because he’s not tall enough. He’s a slot receiver like Harvin and unless you want to run quick slants all day, having both of those guys on the field doesn’t help us get the ball down field.

    Great win from the Vikes! I like our team and where we are heading. We could be the Cowboys, Eagles, Pathers and a host of other teams that are supposed to be good and are underachieving. Look at those teams, they have talent but no chemistry or coaching. We are overachieving with a young team that is going to have some ups and downs.

  203. By NO WORRIES ! on Nov 12, 2012 | Reply

    our coach shows no emotion toward our team when they score, make a great play , or win the game … must be a real buzz-kill for the team. whats up with that ? i would hate to be one of his kids. JUST SAYING ……

  204. By Pablo on Nov 13, 2012 | Reply

    Bien por ponder… ahora si mandaron pases profundo cuando se podia ..

    Mejores jugadas ofensivas … pero no lo suficiente… mejoro ponder por las jugadas yo todavia creo que ponder tiene potencial , potencial que depende de las jugadas y por otro lado debemos de concretar en la redzone, no podemos hacer tres puntos, por que con equipos como houston, green bay y chicago , nos puede costar caro.

    La defensiva muy bien !!!!!!

    Equipos especiales muy bien!!!!!!

    CHICAGO 7-2
    GREEN BAY 6-3
    VIKINGS 6-4



  205. By rodney on Dec 10, 2012 | Reply


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