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Frazier, Vikings Defense Focused On Fixing Run Defense

Posted by Mike Wobschall on October 29, 2012 – 3:16 pm

Through the first five games of the season, the Vikings defense was up to its old tricks of shutting down the opponent’s rushing attack. The Vikings permitted just 3.1 yards per carry and 1 rushing TD over the first five games, and they collected 37 tackles for loss against the run in that same span.

Over the last three games, however, the tides have turned. A fundamentally sound and gap strong run defense turned leaky. Washingon, Arizona and Tampa Bay combined to rush for 468 yards and 5 TDs on 99 carries, production few teams have been able to muster against Leslie Frazier’s defense in Minnesota.

And it has the Vikings head coach concerned, especially with Seattle RB Marshawn Lynch up next for the Vikings.

“I’m concerned,” Frazier acknowledged on Monday. “We have to shore up our run game and the running back we’re facing on Sunday, in my mind, he’s one of the best in our business so we better get our run game fixed in a hurry.”

Frazier singled out missed tackles and poor gap integrity as reasons the Vikings have surrendered the rushing yards they have in recent weeks, and he explained that the defense focused on those issues during Monday’s practice.

“One of the things today that we did was we did a review on some of our run fits, whether it was seven-man fronts or eight-man fronts, just to make sure we all understand where we have to be and where we have to fit up runs,” Frazier said. “We have to improve in that area.

“We haven’t changed our run fits in a long, long time. We didn’t execute as well as we needed to and it cost us. We have to get it fixed and we will.”


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103 Responses to “Frazier, Vikings Defense Focused On Fixing Run Defense”

  1. By Ozzinator on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Fifth!

  2. By Spencer on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    The run defense is disgraceful. They were solid earlier in the year.

  3. By vikingbob136 on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    With Kevin Williams getting up there in age and Jared Allen getting double teamed most of the time, its time to start thinking about bringing in new bodies.I would say
    a 2nd or 3rd round draft choice should be used on a defensive lineman.
    At this time, i would trade Kevin Williams for a 2nd or 3rd round draft choice because we are still rebuilding and are at least a year away from the playoffs.

  4. By vikingbob136 on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    i was wondering why the Redskins were allowing so many yards on there passing defense.
    Then i saw that they have two ex-Vikings starting.Cedric Griffin and Madeiu Williams.
    Lets get rid of all the extra baggage we have on this team and move forward!

  5. By vikingbob136 on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    I hope Sydney Rice doesn’t show us what we are missing next Sunday.

  6. By missed the boat on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    they need to address the qb issue first!

  7. By vikingfanforlife on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Are we waiting till next year to update A.J. Jefferson’s photo on the roster page? Who’s running this site anyway? I reviewed the first couple of games and much to my dismay found the same type of three and outs, Ponder appeared to be anxious in the beginning of the games, hence some bad throw’s. I do think he will get better as time goes by. I think he deserves to finish out the season as the starter. Then his work can be judged accordingly. The defense is out on the field way to long, to many three and outs by our offense. Get tired, lose gap accountability.

  8. By missed the boat on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    yes, the Vikings defense were dead tired all game Thursday. they only got off the field 5 minutes at a time

  9. By JE on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    I agree. As long as Ponder struggles, and he is,we are going to be putting or defense out on the field way to much. I like Ponder but he needs to start playing better than he has the last two games. If he doesnt its going to be a long 2nd half of the season!!

  10. By JE on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is just lucky hes not getting booood off the field like we did to our last few QBs. Just saying.

  11. By tomcat on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Hopefully we shore up our run defense, because the `Hawks are gonna wanna slam us with Lynch on Sunday. If we can`t stop it we`ll be vulnerable to their play-action as well. We need to put the rookie Q.B. in some 2nd and 3rd and longs, and put the heat on `im.

  12. By missed the boat on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    our next home game he will be, especially if he drops the game in Seattle

  13. By JE on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Can you imagine what Farve would be doing with this team right now!! He would be lighting it up bigtime!!!!

  14. By missed the boat on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    yes, he would be. we would be 7-1 with Farve right now, 8-0 with Manning

  15. By Titus the One on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    With Manning we would be in the Superbowl with this team.

  16. By JE on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    I just hope Ponder turns out to be as good as i think he will. Its just hard to wait til he turns the corner and plays good football every week instead of this inconsistant play we are getting now.

  17. By iaVIKE on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Yah cause Favre and Manning are so mobile right? And just by having them that would mean that all recievers would start getting seperation right?

  18. By JE on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    I hate to put it all on Ponder but its a QB league and either you have a really good one or you dont.Right now we dont,but for all our sakes i sure hope he turns into one!!!

  19. By iaVIKE on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    If we had Favre or Manning they would both be on IR right now…

  20. By missed the boat on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    you Don’t need seperation with Manning as qb. his hurry up offense is just what the Vikings ordered

  21. By missed the boat on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    everyone is watching Chicago now because they have a qb

  22. By JE on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Mobile QBs dont have anything on the QBs that can stand in the pocket and deliver strikes to there wideouts.The best QBs in the league cant run a lick! They let there arm do all the talkin!

  23. By run defense on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Good Idea! Let’s fix the run defense. Also, coaches, while you are at it, how about fixing Ponder

  24. By JE on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Im not saying i dont like me some Joe Webb. To bad they wont ever let him throw the ball. If they would his running plays would really be homeruns. Instead they do the obvius,hand off to AP on 1st down, hand the ball to AP on 2nd down, then when your third and long will let ya try a billy bailout!! SICKENING!!!

  25. By JE on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Im thinking our coaches could stand to open things up a bit!!!!

  26. By Spencer on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    I have yet to see Ponder “throw a guy open.”

  27. By BlueBird7 on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer

    Wait couple of years..Lightning could strike.

  28. By C'mon Man! on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Apparently Spencer, you havent seen those tosses for Rudolph.

  29. By Viking33 on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Best way to fix Ponder – Give the Ball to Peterson. We are crushing it running the ball, the only one stopping us is the Play Calling. Man……..was there something wrong with 8-9 yards a carry??????? It has been a long time since I played Football, but I think that would be pretty good.

    Also – last two games combined – Rudolph targeted 2 times combined………? Why do we have 4 TE’s on the Team?? Running game and short passing game I would think?? I cannot stand it when these coaches “get cute” and get away from basic football, especially when it is working.

  30. By Immure on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    By missed the boat on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    everyone is watching Chicago now because they have a qb
    __________________________________________________________________

    That wouldn’t be the same QB the Chicago fans were booing yesterday would it?

  31. By Viking33 on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    I thought we beat the 49ers by running the ball……..no one can run on the 49ers I heard………? We did……….why did we stop running? If we can run on the 49ers, shouldn’t we be able to run on most teams?? I think we should ask AP.

  32. By Viking33 on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    I live in Chicago and all you have heard for years is that the Bears have no WR’s for Cutler………such tears for Cutler. Then all I have heard is now they have Marshall and Cutler will be UNSTOPPABLE now!!! Well – he still looks like Cutler to me. If you have a chance check out Smokin Jay Cutler – it is hilarious.

    http://smokinjaycutler.tumblr.com/

  33. By purplehaze1 on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    rumor has it Musgravy just added a couple of more plays to his repertoire…he now has a 2 ply playbook…GO VIKES!!!

  34. By Titus the One on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Bears Offense is so so. Their D is top rate, though. Lions are okay, but they are the door mat again. Unfortunately, the Packers look like they might make a run, but they cannot win the big one. Vikings will have a better record than last year, but if Ponder is kept in, we may not go anywhere, playoff wise.

    Spileman has a secret: he kept MBT because he saw what we all saw– that kid is the future franchise QB of the Minnesota Vikings!

    BAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  35. By Titus the One on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Oh and to answer a blogger on another blog who asked me — isn’t willpower the same as mental — No, the will or drive to do something is very different. That is why you can meet very intelligent people who do little with their giftings. You can be talented but lack motivation.

  36. By Titus the One on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Can Spielman fire the head coach?

  37. By Immure on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Titus- Yes he has the authority to do that. But as long as the team has a winning season he won’t.

  38. By TBurbs on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    If we are a running team lets run the ball…That means AP AND TOBY!! Where the EFF is TOBY give hime some caries and lets pound the rock!!!!!!!!!

  39. By Viking33 on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Seemed our Offense looks smoother when everything comes off of already established running game. Now it seems we expect teams to fear our threat of the run only…….and then when we fugure out that they don’t even care if we throw the ball (because we can’t) it is too late.

    The Seahawks will destroy us in that building if we do not run the ball a ton. They do not have a frightening Offense so don’t play into their hands by trying to throw. Be patient and wait for them to make the mistake on Offense and then capitalize. I take my chances with a ground and pound low scoring game, they are too good when the other team turns the ball over and gives up sacks.

  40. By vikingbob136 on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Does management keep Frazier if we wind up 7-9 or 8-8?
    I guess its progress but i am still not convinced he is the best man for the job.

  41. By Immure on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    I think Musgrave will lose his job before Frazier loses his.

  42. By Titus the One on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    I am not so sure Spielman keeps Frazier if Spielman determines decisions are poorly made– I still cannot understand why a change in QB was not made Thursday when everything shifted our way– down by 13 with a full quarter to go and a rambunctious crowd– you do not throw away a win to keep baby Ponder from pouting.

  43. By Titus the One on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    good point Immure– and probably wiser. I think Frazier is a good head coach– the problem may lie in Musgrave more than Frazier, but would Musgrave pull Ponder without Frazier’s consent?

  44. By True Vikes Fan on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    ok about switching quarterbacks going into the 4th. the three and out in third quarter after the defense got fired up and stopped the bucs and we got the ball you can not blame christian ponder for our three and out, first play we ran it and it was a negative 2 yard carry and then ponder on 2nd down scrambled because the pocket was collapsing and 3rd was a terrible snap and christian ponder had to jump on it, so it was bad play calling and execution

  45. By iaVIKE on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Don’t worry about it True Vikes Fan, people on here are always gunna blame Ponder and think it’s the end of the world when we don’t win, didn’t think Titus was one of those “fans” though.

  46. By Immure on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t think Musgrave would pull Ponder with out Frazier consent, however its not unheard of for a OC to do something like that.

  47. By Titus the One on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    I think it is too early to say what Ponder will become– he has shown he can do it. But the past three games he did struggle and it would have been smart, in my opinion, to mix it up when there was a lot of time left and old mo was on our side– Webb with his running may have gotten us back in the game. I am a believer in doing whatever it takes– if it’s not working, do something different.

  48. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier is in charge of who plays, and who doesn’t…If Ponder sits…It will be Frazier’s decision…

    But why is Jenkins is playing instead of J Wright…

    A J Wright sighting…

    http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_21882382/vikings-jarius-wright-my-day-is-coming

  49. By True Vikes Fan on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    I just hate it when people think the solution to fixing the offense is always replacing the quarterback when its not, Maybe its getting the offense into a rhythm and getting everyone in sync and have a better gameplan. Personally i think ponder is very good and i like him and hes still learning and i think when he learns to read blitzes better and can stand more confidently in the pocket he will be very dangerous

  50. By Titus the One on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    True Vikes: Maybe its getting the offense into a rhythm and getting everyone in sync and have a better gameplan

    True, but difficult to achieve at the fourth quarter– sometimes a change in QB is a positive at that point and can re energize the offense– and motivate the starting QB for the following game.

  51. By Titus the One on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    I firmly believe a change in QB at that point may have given us a win. This ain’t basketball or baseball with tons of games– if you can win a game, you have to do what it takes– don’t sit in a sinking ship. Make changes!

  52. By Spencer on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    AJ Jefferson and J-Rob were both baptised last week by Mike Williams, so Sidney Rice worries me.

  53. By True Vikes Fan on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    @Titus you may be right about the re energize part but if they benched ponder in favor of Webb it would start a controversy and it would destroy ponders confidence and would probably turn one ugly loss into an ugly 2nd half of the season!

  54. By Spencer on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Destroy his confidence? If he doesnt want to get benched then dont play like sh!t

  55. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    M Vick…Running QB…Ton of WR talent on the Eagles team…

    Vick 9 TD’s…8 ints…Eagles…3 wins…4 losses…

    But I’m sure Webb is better than Vick…That’s why we should have Webb come in for Ponder…

    Because Ponder has 10 TD’s…7 ints…5 wins…3 losses…No talent on for WR’s outside of Harvin…And Simpson (if and when) he plays…

    But running QB’s are cool…Doesn’t matter if they win or not…Just fun to watch them run around…And get hurt…

    Right ???…

  56. By Spencer on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Give it up already, Ponders garbage.

  57. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Webb sucks…plain and simple…

    If he were any good…He would be playing Sunday…Not Ponder…

    Webb sucks so bad…They canned the “blazer package”…

  58. By SoCalVike on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Trade for Vick or Rivers…

  59. By True Vikes Fan on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Either way Spencer your complaining of ponder isn’t going to make Frazier bench him and start Webb so you might as well support the quarterback who is starting and doing a good job

  60. By True Vikes Fan on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

  61. By Alex on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Wright will play this year but what the coaches are doing right now is the right thing by letting him learn and develop. Also I don’t think I will ever understand why so few of you guys are impatient with Ponder. He is young but he is doing pretty well with what he has as far as Wrs. A lot of you are forgetting what the Vikings record was last year so let me remind you. We went 3-13 last year 3 wins and it should have been 2 we got lucky down in Carolina when their kicker blew the game winning fg. This team is 5-3 right now with a second year QB who has more tds than Interceptions. Why does that mean he should be benched? Has he played badly in the past two games, yes he has but he has played well in games early in the year. Ponder will have more bad games this year but he wills also have some good games as well. If we draft a Wr in the first round next year and can resign Percy I can’t wait to see what he will do then.

    One more time we have 5 wins right now how many of you honestly thought we would be 5-3 at this point in the season? I thought before the season saying we would end 6-10 was going to be pretty accurate but I’m very happy with where this team is now and they will continue to do well I can still see us getting to 11-5.

    Also I think we beat Seattle on Sunday 24-10 Vikings. Look for Wilson to fumble and the defense to return it for a TD.

  62. By Parkway on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    I thought we would be 6-2 after 8 games, so we are actually one behind that.

    I’m getting annoyed that everyone keeps saying how good we are doing just because we were 3-13 last year. We weren’t a 3-13 team talent wise. We lost double digit first half leads in the first 3 games. We should have started 3-0 not 0-3.

  63. By Titus the One on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Actually, you can go to my posts before the season– maybe even prior preseason– I said many times– 7-3 at the BYE and a win over the Niners. A week from Sunday is a tough game, but we will beat the Sea Chickens. AND then sweep the Lions— and I guarantee you all the current whiners will be cheering.

  64. By Alex on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    I do remember you two saying we would do well, I think Grandaddypurp did as well. But so many people on this blog were saying we wouldn’t have that good of a season. Almost every expert was saying we would be dead last in the league. And while we may have had the talent to be better than 3-13 we still ended up as 3-13.
    This is a much better team than last year was my point, and a much younger team as well. We have a good future to look forward to and Ponder at QB will be part of that.

  65. By Immure on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Its gonna be tough game on Sunday. We play in probably the toughest stadium to play in against a really tough defense and something that has been the teams kryptonite this season: a rookie QB. If we take full advantage of the run game and avoid turnovers and penalties we can win this game.

  66. By Immure on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Also we need the run defense to show up this weekend because M. Lynch isn’t a pushover.

  67. By john on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    we have 9 days to show what were made of,give this young team a chance.all we need is a new oc,are reciverswe dont how good they are till we use them

  68. By Spencer on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    The Hurricane is causing some damage here, the wind was howling all day, and trees were falling.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6aLo3nCIAAI0vT.jpg:large

  69. By Spencer on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Heres another pic I took.

    http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/679557922.jpg?key=10241024&Expires=1351568839&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=17FpbfpsetwyTXHhFEw97nPCg0yOlTFlaIXoKdojOdbw-PIY3zDS15-1BiKY~3gRk-or8D-lFwEhLjPjYvdVRlr2g1~TF1OWmALOz8Pe6vFiLdGO0fG8TgeSskOo0IoBFPVWkFC1tXUbaVku~HUqX8VdyRYmg3n2rxtRnr2iEuw_

  70. By Spencer on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Im just glad I dont live in New Jersey, they got hit hard.

  71. By vikes or die on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Tampa bay kicked our ass last week. Plain and simple. They played like it was a playoff game and we played like we were out in the back yard with a hangover. Seattle is a much more physical team and if we dont match their intensity it will be another loss.

  72. By Immure on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer- I don’t think the second link you posted works. But it might just be my computer

  73. By Titus the One on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    I see that- my one friend bought a townhome in Jersey last year– hope she is alright. I am sure she is with her parents in Brooklyn.

  74. By Titus the One on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    Looks like the Niners struggled at Arizona tonight.

  75. By Titus the One on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    I am sure Zygi was not pleased being embarrassed on national TV, especially after all the talking heads saying what a surprise team we are– we were ranked number nine in most power polls. Wonder where we fell to? I guess around 17 or 20?

  76. By RichardA1 on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    They were awesome at the beggining of the year, lately they fall apart or 2nd half they give up, especially Ponder, coachs better think of something!

  77. By Titus the One on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    When I read Ponder’s quote a few weeks back– what stinks is we could be 5-0, I knew we were in trouble,

  78. By Parkway on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    I saw us at 12 still

  79. By Parkway on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000087482/article/bryant-mckinnie-of-vikings-owes-375k-to-strip-clubs

  80. By Parkway on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    We pretty much have to win the next two games if we want to even dream about the playoffs. Need to go 5-3 again this half to make the playoffs. So win these two games, win against the Rams, then take care of the Bears and Packers at home and that will be our 5 wins.

    Do SOMETHING before the trade deadline. Get plax, assuming we can even make it to the redzone still… at least he’s a big body down there to go up and get it.

  81. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply

    PAY PERCY

  82. By James on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply

    Shouldn’t we be focusing on he passing attack too? Why haven’t I hear anything about it? Plus idk what the gm and coaches think… But how bout trying to get bowe? What we have doesn’t work!!

  83. By VikingFanatic209 on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply

    we really need to get back to viking football and on defense that 1st and foremost starts with stopping the run. and making that offense a little bit more 1 dimensional in 3rd and long situations especially and then on offense we need to allow it 2 start with AP and let the passing game develop naturally off the play action. somebody was complaining about being so obvious with our offense when we run on 1st and 2nd down and pass on 3rd but i say bring it on cuz we have gotten away from that and its not working. You gotta use your hot hand and right now that guy is AP. You gotta ride the horse when it wants to be rode! Some where in this 1st half of football while trying 2 put the perfect game plan 2gether we have lost who we are as a team and we gotta get back there fast. Yes i do believe that we need to find creative ways to get Percy the ball but not at the expense of stalling the offense. Yes Peterson fumbled and the results were fatal but one good thing that i was able to take from the game last Thursday was just how explosive AP looked and that he can mos def still hit the homerun!!!!! This week we preach fundamentals and physicality Skol Vikes!

  84. By Muskyfever on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply

    We can’t go out and get Bowe, you people keep asking about it, but your not looking at the whole picture here.

    Bowe will want MONEY.!!!!!

    I would rather use that money to PAY PERCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    If we get Bowe you can kiss Harvin Goodbye as we wont have enough money to pay both. PAY PERCY!!!!!!!!! Trust me Percy will be paid… A lot, and he deserves every Penny

    F**K NO SCR*W D BOWE!!!!!!!

  85. By northwoodsv2 on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply

    All other skill positions swap out during the game, be it to let a man rest, or to try a different person to force the defender to adapt to a different style of runner. Why should the QB position be any different?

  86. By PurplHaze on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply

    It’s not just run defense. We suck in Offensive and Deffensive 3rd Down! We need to fix that too!!!

    Why do people insist on trading away the only consistent DT we have on the team in Kevin Williams? Pat Williams presence is STILL being missed! Find his replacement first, then we can think about Kevin, but NOT before!

  87. By Troutdaddy on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply

    Sad to see the same old whininess about Ponder. Give it a rest. He has had 3 bad games. The kid is a good QB and the fans need to give him the opportunity to grow. I see some of you are saying that we would be 8 and 0 if we had Favre or Manning??? They are not here. Until people realize that we have who we have and quit throwing everyone under the bus just because they struggle at times is just stupid. I like most fans am very impatient as well, but I am at least able to keep a fix on my focus as a fan. Don’t get me wrong. I am no Musgrave fan, am still on the fence about Frazier and I scream and yell at my TV like most of you, but the fact remains that in a rebuilding year the fans have got to let the team grow. Period. All of us (including myself) think we have the perfect solutions but we don’t know jack because we are not the ones making the decisions… So, buck up campers and get ready for the next 8 games. The Vikes are going to still win more games this year and hopefully we will see them grow and earn a playoff spot. Wouldn’t that just be amazing??? I bleed purple…. Nuf said

  88. By missed the boat on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply

    how can the defense stop the run when they only get 3 minutes of rest from Ponder? aka 3 and out

  89. By JE on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply

    Yea , but you cant throw for 58 yards in a game and as a fan not throw up in your mouth!! Cmon Ponder, get the offense in gear!!! People are trying to blame Musgrave when Ponder is missing one on one shots down the field to Simpson!!! THROW THE BALL DEEEEEP!!!! THEN YOU THROW THE BALL DEEP AGAIN!!! Its not rocket sience.

  90. By missed the boat on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder can’t throw the ball deep without throwing it out of bounds. he struggles to throw a 20 yard pass

  91. By Vlad19 on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply

    I am TIRED of fans suggesting that “Ponder has more TDs than Interceptions, and that means he is doing all right…” Hey, let’s take a drink of the real kool-aid. Ponder had 7 interceptions DROPPED in those “first four great games” he played….

    You think another 7 interceptions would maybe change his QB rating??? maybe his fan approval rating???? Maybe whether he was starting or not???? Whether we have 5 wins or maybe 2???????

    Then there is that “That 3 n out in Tampa wasn’t Ponder’s fault because a bad run for loss, he HAD to abandon the pocket and got tripped up and then Sullivan blows the snap…”

    What about leadership people? What about the intangibles of great football players? What about making people around you BETTER instead of residing in mediocrity because there is no inspiration in your team leader?

    Think about it and please stop using the misleading stat of 10 TDs and 7 INts, as 14 Interceptions is what SHOULD have been, and Webb would be running for good or bad right now. Doing just enough right to keep your job is NOT what a team is inspired by. Ponder is uninspiring and not talented either. Simple as that.

  92. By Vlad19 on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply

    Troutdaddy, your definition of “good” is exactly what????

    What is “good” about Ponder? His inability to read defenses? His inability to pick up the blitz? HIs panicky, jittery pocket presence? HIs amply pitiably inaccurate throws – the distrust of the O coordinator and the proof on the field that he can’t throw downfield for sheets…. How about his inability to hit the “open receiver” as that is a bit different in the NFL, just as Brady or Rodgers or anyone who knows that half a step is OPEN in the NFL… Ponder needs to be able to drive wagon train around the receiver — and he STILL might miss him badly….

    Perhaps it is his leadership skills as they all raise their game while on the field with Ponder…. or does the team remain average???

    There are many things Ponder is, and “good” at the QB position is NOT one of them. Like him as a young man, sure, but as a football QB? Nope. We will be doing as much with Webb or Tarkenton even at this point

  93. By missed the boat on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is what he is, a bottom 5 qb, he would be a backup qb for 26 teams. we couuldn’t get a 5th round draft pick for Ponder if we tried to trade him

  94. By spicycurryguy on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply

    3 and out thats ponders new nick name!!

  95. By spicycurryguy on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply

    here is musgraves play book for next sunday, 1st down run the ball for one yard, 2nd down run the ball for three yards, 3rd down short pass to percy (pass over thrown, incomplete) 4th down punt for 40 yards……………….
    my suggestion just punt it away on 3rd down and maybe 2nd down every oncce in a while, that will keep opposing defendse on their heels :)

  96. By Vlad19 on Oct 30, 2012 | Reply

    But Ponder has a great haircut…… and a GREAT short, short, short passing game %…. Oh, and 10 TD’s, thanks to Harvin and Rudolph…. and THANK HEAVEN for the best running back in the league to open up the passing game the way the theory and “book” suggest it should….

    Yea, Ponder is all that!

  97. By missed the boat on Oct 31, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder even has a girlfiend

  98. By jake on Oct 31, 2012 | Reply

    when are we going to see audie cole!!!!! erin henderson cannot tackle or cover so give someone else a chance.

  99. By Vlad19 on Oct 31, 2012 | Reply

    jake, I like that idea. Watching Erin Henderson is like watching a larger version of Asher Allen. Very bad football.

  100. By Gilberator on Oct 31, 2012 | Reply

    Missedtheboat. Ponder has a lot of talent and I can see him being a successful QB in the near future. I believe Musgrave is the one that needs to step it up. He left Atlanta and look where they are now….undefeated. We had our WORST season last year and why was that? We couldn’t get the offense going. Mcnabb didn’t help us but I believe Musgrave to be the biggest reason our season is ruined. This year we have a lot of hungry players that go out and play hard. Musgrave hides behind our star players’ ability. We still win games because of the sheer talent on our team. I feel Musgrave has almost nothing to do with our success. Our O-line doesnt allow much time for Ponder to go through his reads but with an offense in Peterson, Harvin, Rudolph, Simpson and shadu we should have minimal problems getting the ball down the field.

  101. By Gilberator on Oct 31, 2012 | Reply

    The biggest reason our season WAS ruined* my apologies.

  102. By dee jay born on Oct 31, 2012 | Reply

    believe it or not i have no problem with AD running up against 8 man fronts.he been doing it since the middle of the ’07 season when the league found out about him.my problem is with the O-line.when AD busts one for a big gain(against 8 man fronts)we all ooh and aah the run.when it gains nothing or negative yards,we complain about ”why are we running against an 8 man front when we should be passing.i believe we can run and pass against those type of defenses if the O-line read and pick blitzes the right way.Ponder needs to figure that out also.

  103. By Tom on Oct 31, 2012 | Reply

    Getting a blue chip defensive player with the Vikings #1 pick in the 2013 NFL draft, speaking of Manti Te O linebacker from Notre Dame, will help solidify the Vikings defense! The Vikings nucleus seems to head in Notre Dame’s direction with so many Fighting Irish in purple and yellow!

    Vikings need desperately to alter the run defense and the offense with Ponder playing poorly!

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