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Vikings Place Cook On IR With Designation To Return

Posted by Mike Wobschall on October 26, 2012 – 12:41 pm

Vikings CB Chris Cook knifed his way into the Tampa Bay Buccaneers backfield on the second play of the 3rd quarter on Thursday night, leading to a tackle for loss against RB Doug Martin. Unfortunately, the tackle for loss wasn’t the only loss on the play.

Cook left the game after that play with what appeared to be an arm injury. On Friday during his customary day-after-the-game press conference, Vikings Head Coach Leslie Frazier announced that Cook had a broken arm, that he’ll need surgery to repair the break and that he’ll be out “an extended period of time.”

Exactly how long Cook will be out is unknown at this point, but there is a general timeline given the fact that the Vikings placed Cook on the Reserve/Injured list with the “designated to return” tag. The designated for return tag means Cook is eligible to return to the team for practice in 6 weeks and to the Active List in 8 weeks. Under that time table, Cook is eligible to return to practice the week of the Vikings game at home against Chicago on December 9 and is eligible to return to the Active List the week of the Vikings game at Houston on December 23.

Rookie Josh Robinson will likely step into the starting lineup with Cook out of action, while AJ Jefferson will probably slide into the nickel role. Marcus Sherels also figures to see more time on defense with the injury. The Vikings also have Brandon Burton on the roster and Bobby Felder on their Practice Squad.

Frazier also said the staff could work out some free agents corners over the weekend or early next week.

More on the “designated for return” tag
A club is permitted to designate only one player in the 2012 season as eligible to be returned to its Active List, and that player must be designated for return at the time he is placed on the Reserve/Injured list.

– Cook is ineligible to practice or to participate in team or individual drills (contact or non-contact) while on the list.

– Cook is permitted to attend team meetings, and may also attend practice sessions, provided he does not participate. Cook is not permitted to participate in a walk-through.


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387 Responses to “Vikings Place Cook On IR With Designation To Return”

  1. By vikingfanforlife on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    I certainly am not happy with some of the results as of late. But, considering the team was projected to complete absolutely nothing this year, I can live with it. Looking for good things to come our way. Have faith my fellow Viking fans.

  2. By demflyboyz on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    I think that A.J. Jefferson will do a great job,
    But have u Vikings fans herd the latest news on the trade deadline that Wide reciever Steve Smith could be a vikings before the trade deadline.. I think that would be a great deal.. if we have Steve smith,percy and jerome at wide reciever we could be one of the best offenses in the leagues….

    We need a Wide reciever and a good physical corner back before the trade deadline.. I would consider rogers cromartie at Cb

  3. By Gabriel on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Exactly, we should be very happy now sitting at 5-3 considering how last year we were already thinking of the draft. At least now we are in playoff contention and watch games with the hope we will make it to the playoffs. The team has shown it has the abbility to play great so i expect to bounce back and make a decent playoff run

  4. By ponderthefuture on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    @demflyboys i do agree we need a good WR to help ponder and take the load off of percy but we aren’t getting steve smith

  5. By Parkway on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Smith is purely speculation and if we are going to spend a ton of money and a pick then we should get Bowe. We don’t need another small receiver.

  6. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    I like the Steve Smith idea over Bowe…

    Bowe I know for sure needs a new contract…And will require HUGE bucks to sign him…

    We need to PAY PERCY at the end of the season…Can’t put all the teams cap space in 2 receivers…Just got done paying AP….

    Steve Smith might have some time left on his current contract (not sure on that)…

    Plus Smith is a guy who gets plenty of SEPERATION on his routes !!!…He can leave CB’s standing flat footed with his moves…And good hands…

    Bowe needs to out jump his guys…Hands are average…To many drops for my tastes…

    But that is only a wish list…And Xmas is a long way off yet…. ; )

  7. By QB on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    I had two flashbacks last night during the game and both weren’t very pleasant.

    First, WR Williams for TB #19, reminded me of the way Keyshawn Johnson used to spank my Vikes.

    Second, Ponders, soft lobbing of the ball all over the place, reminded me of another guy that had a lot of potential, but never really made it, Chad Pennengton.
    Please put some zip on the ball.

  8. By Titus the One on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Cook out for six to eight weeks? Now we really are in trouble!

  9. By Parkway on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Smith JUST signed a contract and is due at minimum $14.75 million a year over the next 3 years.

  10. By Spencer on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Lost the most valuable player on the defense.

  11. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    With Steve Smith…

    The old saying “when he is even, he’s leaving” might be heard from some Vikings fans again…

    Because with Smith,Harvin, and Simpson…The Vikings offense would have some real playmakers on the field to help AP and Rudolf !!!…

    Ponder that, Viking fans… ; )

  12. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry Spencer…

    Cook was doing great this season !!!…Just to bad…

  13. By Parkway on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    And Steve Smith is on the wrong side of 30

  14. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway…

    Good point…Smith is over 30…

    But the Vikings could afford a 3 year 45 million contract…For a very solid player yet…

    Bowe would demand an 80 million 6 year contract or more…

    Calvin Johnson and his ridiculous 120 million contract…Is going to really make it hard to sign other WR’s at a decent price…Especially a big named player like Bowe…

  15. By Titus the One on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, make sure you send a get well soon card.

  16. By Titus the One on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    I wonder what Zygi is thinking today? He was humiliated AGAIN on national television.

  17. By Spencer on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Time for some Bobby Felder- Brandon Burtons a scrub

  18. By vikingbob136 on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Steve Smith is a little long in the tooth.Plus he has anger issues.We don’t need him.
    Let’s draft a WR next year.
    Tony Kornheiser says The Vikes go right down the tank. He predicts 7 and 9.
    I am not sure if our offensive coordinator has ever seen a blitz. He surely didn’t prepare for any blitzes.Very depressed today

  19. By Spencer on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Put in Webb

  20. By sandiamond on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    If Smith is available there should be no question as to sign him. Percy & Smith = ‘s 4 green bay wr’s

  21. By Spencer on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Its no use sandiamond- Ponder would still be the quarterback.

  22. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    vikingbob126…

    I agree…Willing to wait for the spring draft also…Frazier can even keep Jenkins around if he wants, as far as I am concerned…

    Childs might still play…Wright might still see the light of day from the sidelines at some point on the active roster..: /

    We do have some players that need to get paid after this season…Percy being top of that list…

    Titus…I don’t know…If I am Zygi…I would be a very happy camper…Look at the players Spielman drafted last spring…And a new stadium is being built…And the worth of my franchise is almost doubled because of that stadium being built…

    Yep…If I am Zygi…Xmas has come early this year !!!… ; )

  23. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    *Childs = next season…

  24. By Ozzinator on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    How come no one is talking about Mistral Raymond?

  25. By sandiamond on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings vague with Ponder’s struggles:

    The Vikings are searching for solutions in their passing game, but sticking by Christian Ponder. So what’s wrong? There weren’t many specifics given over the past two days.

  26. By Spencer on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    What is the point of repeating that?

  27. By sandiamond on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    You can just feel a few changes coming by tuesday…. cant wait

  28. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Ozz…

    I agree… ; )

    Wobbs…How is Mistral Raymond doing ???…

  29. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Why was Marcus Sherels in on defense after cook went out?

  30. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    If Frazier is foolish enough to try Webb ???…

    Put him in as the starter…

    I want to watch Seattle and the number one defense, against the mighty Joe Webb…I think that would be extremely funny…

    Then 8 sacks,3 fumbles and 4 interceptions later…I can start reading fans start blogging…For heaven’s sake…Put Ponder back in NOW !!!….hahaha…

  31. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    There would only be one advantage by putting in Webb at Seattle…

    Seattle would not have one recent piece of game tape on Webb…

  32. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    49ers beat Seattle…With pounding the ground game…

    Could a well rested O-line be ready for the task…With AP and Webb just running the ball down Seattles throat…

    Webb would not be put in there to pass the ball…

  33. By Titus the One on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Next time the Vikings play we will know who is the next president. Get out and vote!

  34. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    @ Seahawks and @ Texans are the 2 of the 3 hardest looking games I saw the Vikings playing this season…(49ers the other)…And still do…

    This next Seahawks game is going to be a “slobber knocker”…Defenses will be going at it…

    Can the Vikings win it with their running game and outstanding defense ???…I expect Ponder to struggle in this game…

    This is one game…The run first game plan…Most likely is the way to go…

  35. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Yes…Get out and Vote !!!…

  36. By Titus the One on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Let’s for once make Minnesota proud– and be a red state.

  37. By TheValentine84 on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    What is with the Vikings giving up huge games and losing to 2012 rookies… lost to Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, and yesterday Doug Martin ran all over us…

  38. By Parkway on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Ron Paul write in

  39. By Eric The Red on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    OTK: Couldn’t agree with you more with the 3 hardest looking games of the season. But i would of included the Bears at home as a 4th game, as Soldier field is very tough to play at as a visiting team.

    As for all you Ponder Haters out there, have a little patience would you!!! Lets see how well you would perform with 8 angry defensive players always chasing you around. Not to mention it is a very good learning experience for Ponder to learn to deal with defensive rush’s. Just because a QB has a couple of bad games doesn’t mean you throw him off to the side.

    One thing that they could do to help Ponder out, is utilize our 2 TE’s sets for max protection.

    Now lets see if JA can play the whole game @ Seattle ANGRY and sack Wilson 5 times.

  40. By Titus the One on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Vote for Titus! Free chocolate cake.

  41. By Parkway on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    We all know we only have til December 21st anyway…

  42. By HCG. on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Condolences on Cook’s injury, Spencer. Skol bud.

  43. By Titus the One on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Nurse Spencer to ER! Nurse Spencer to ER!

  44. By Ej on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is a 2nd year quarterback give the man a break he will struggle at times but the worst thing would to pull him and put in webb. Ill admit webb could have a good game but as we saw last year with tebow that type of QB is for show not for titles. Have patience and also last time i remember the vikes wernt suppose to win any games this year so what ever Ponder produces is a great outcome. He is the future of the franchise but he needs better wideouts i mean come on percy cant get open everyplay regardless of how much we all want him to.

  45. By Parkway on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Hard to win with a noodle arm

  46. By Titus the One on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Worst thing is to lose games which could be won– I missed the first half of last night’s game– got home just before the half and what I saw was complete domination by Tampa– then just before the 4th quarter I saw a change — AP took it to the house– the crowd stopped typical Minnesota complacency, and our D said ENOUGH– we were down by 13 at home with the crowd going nuts and a full quarter to go. In 2010, against the Cardinals we were down by 14 but in the last 5 minutes or so we tied it to go in OT and win– it was much the same– the D got nasty, the crowd got pumped up but our QB was a legend who made it happen– and with arguably a worse O line than yesterday. WE COULD HAVE WON YESTERDAY WITH BETTER QB play– there are 16 games- it ain’t baseball, Cannot afford to lose games that you can adjust and win–

  47. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    I didn’t get the chance to watch the game…

    But listened to Paul Allen’s description on every play…

    Titus…After Allen made that big sack…and the crowd was going crazy…All that momentum going the Vikings way…

    On offense plays coming back…How did Ponder mess up and lose that momentum on the next 3 and out the Vikings had ???…

    Was it on first down…When Musgrave called the running play to the right…Which was a loss of 2 yds by AP ???…(That play calling was creative)…

    Or on second down…Where Ponder pulled the ball down and ran with it…Almost breaking a big gain…But got tripped up…

    Or was it on third down…While in the shotgun formation…And Sully hiked the ball around Ponders ankles ???…With a defense expecting the pass…And the defense coming like gang bus ters after him ???…

    Like I said…I didn’t get to see the game…

    But do remember P Allen calling out what was happening…Did it happen like that ???…And If it went down like that…

    Was QB play the “only” reason the Vikings lost that game ???…

  48. By HCG. on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    If you guys have any stadium questions for Bagley, get em in before monday when I send him the interview questions!

    http://vikingsfootballblog.com/

  49. By Titus the One on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    No, you cannot blame it all on Ponder– but I think a seasoned top QB like Manning or Brady would have taken advantage at that point– he would be like AP or Allen and raise his play a few levels. I missed the first half and half watched the second — I was in a debate by phone over the election–

    But I do know the momentum had clearly turned- you could see it on Tampa’s offense- their faces looked rattled after Allen and company took them out. And the crowd was soooooooooooo loud– usually the crowd pouts– I think Tampa was really overwhelmed by the crowd at that point– they know Minnesotans typically hold their head down, sit quietly and cry internally when it looks bad.

  50. By sandiamond on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    GDP we are short a corner now for sure. When we finally get a punt returner, Sherels will hit the road D Reynard journeyman style

  51. By missed the boat on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    why do the Vikings have such a hard time finding a good qb? is this a scouting problem?

  52. By dieseldog on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    We have a good quarterback – Bethel Thompson

  53. By Titus the One on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    simpson’s fumble was devastating.

  54. By Titus the One on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    I have been able to review more of the game now– yes, Ponder had difficulties, but he is hardly the scapegoat.

  55. By Titus the One on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Truth is we were 3-13 last year– only one other year in franchise history did we have such a bad record (I think)– at any rate we are on the correct path.

  56. By missed the boat on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    a great qb goes to the playoffs and does damage in his 2nd year

  57. By Parkway on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    The truth is…. that Ponder won’t get benched as long as Frazier is the coach… he might get taken out by injury though in our next half of the season if our receivers continue to not get separation and our interior line keeps failing AND Ponder can’t read the blitzes and adjust accordingly.

    I think we really got scre wed with Childs blowing out both of his knees. He probably would have been making plays for us by now. He was projected as a first round talent before his injury in college.

    Musgrave HAS to go by next year and we need a big bodied WR and another quality receiver to go along with it to give Ponder any chance of being our franchise QB.

    Those are the facts.

  58. By Titus the One on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    beautiful throw to Percy for the TD in second quarter
    We need to calm down– Ponder was sooooo good against the niners– remember the throws– the fade arc on fourth down for the TD with a defender in his face, peddling backwards as he threw?

    What a short memory gang.

  59. By Parkway on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    I am more concerned about his arm strength nearly every game though… you can’t throw accurate deep b@lls if you are struggling to throw it that far in the first place. Ponder throws really nice touch p@sses… but I never see him just zip one into a tight window across the middle past 15 yards

  60. By dieseldog on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Only eight more games left with Tavaris Ponder at QB. MTB will be ready next spring.

  61. By puckertrucker on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    To the Management of the Vikings: It is time to get rid of your lousy head coach Stupid L. Frazier and to put Creepy C. Ponder either on the bench or on waivers he is a lousy QB and will only drag this team to the depths of Dispare there was a second QB named Joe Webb Why didn’t your crummy coach put him in. I’ve been a fan of The Vikings since 1961 but your team has sunk to new low depths with Frazier as Head Coach Get Rid of him or lose another 1000 fans or so Mr. Wilf you have the money get rid of Frazier, he is a dip Sh…It coach and does not belong in the NFL. The One and Only Pucker Trucker!!!!!!!!Skol Fans

  62. By dieseldog on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Ditto Pucker Trucker…..we’ve both been watching since 1961.
    Why a coach won’t make a change during a game when it’s needed is really hard to comprehend.

  63. By Titus the One on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder had a very accurate throw to Simpson– who did not catch. AP had a fumble– now that I am seeing more of what happened, I disagree with all the Ponder haters– Ponder was part of the loss– but he was NOT that bad.

  64. By Parkway on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Our franchise is bass ackwards. We decided to let 4 SB winning coaches go in the past and keep our Childress clone now

  65. By Titus the One on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    BUT, like I screamed all last night and I was MAD!! Coach needed to change QBs at the start of the fourth– we had all the momentum,

  66. By Parkway on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Titus did you see the two screen p@sses he missed? They were very McNabb -esque circa 2011. I wouldn’t consider myself a Ponder hater at this point but I’m quite concerned…

  67. By dieseldog on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder had ONE accurate throw to Simpson……I suppose for some NFL qbs that would be a major success.

  68. By Titus the One on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    I do think we could have won had we changed QBs at the fourth quarter– everything was our way– a TD and we were within one score– Allen and the D would have gone bezerk.

  69. By dieseldog on Oct 26, 2012 | Reply

    the fans would have blown the roof off of the stadium if thay had seen webb run onto the field after the Allen fight….

  70. By Jayson on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    The seattle game coming up is gonna be tough. Thier D is MUCH better than Tampa’s but there Offense is MUCH worse. To me, this is a game where the most physical team wins. Both Defenses are good and both offenses are struggling. The Vikes need to go into Seattle and punch them right in the mouth.

  71. By BlueBird7 on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    I have said in the past, when the game is going from bad to worst, change QB’s.

    Titus the one and only, As much as you toot the Vikings, how about taking a game day off from your debates and watch what is going on the field?

  72. By BlueBird7 on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Now that all the teams the Vikings have left to play know they can run thru those wide open doorways called a Defensive Line, just how can anybody actually state the Vikings will end up 10/6. For those in that catagory, I have some lots for sale on the moon. with free cheeze.

  73. By BlueBird7 on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Dieseldog

    That is what would have happened!

  74. By missed the boat on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    i see us dropping both games from both chicago and green bay with ponder as qb. we will finsh with a 7-9 record

  75. By missed the boat on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    call Ponder by his real name, 3 and out

  76. By BlueBird7 on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier at his Press Meeting on Friday said “No change at Quarterback.”

    He also said ” It is going to be hard for us to achieve our goals, if we’re not able to improve our passing game”.

    Memoi for Frazier: Tell that to Ponder, Musgrave, and the Offensive line.

  77. By missed the boat on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    it’s going to be hard for Frazier to keep his job if we have another losing season. he better figgue out a way to win, a good start would be pulling Ponder out

  78. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    I’m sticking with Ponder. But I’m looking forward to Bethel-Thompson playing more next Preseason . Its always good to know you have a true backup quarterback.

  79. By 1vikingsfan on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    I know ponder is our main QB but c’mon Frazier. Webb in last games could of gave is more light than ponder. Next year I would want a different coach. I never liked Frazier to b honest, he will not take us nowhere, most of the time he has a face like he is confuse n doesnt know wut to do. also a new offense coordinator coach. To me this r the biggest n smartest choice to do next year. I think we hve good WRs is just that ponder doesnt take any risks n I like ppl that take risks, ppl that take risks CHANGE the outcome of something. Is like he is scared to throw to some other receiver than harvin. He doesnt trust himself or something

  80. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    GDP…

    I agree…Bethel-Thompson has plenty of upside…I see no upside in RB/WR/QB..Joe Webb..And think Webb will either be traded this season, or released next spring…

    MBT has a quick release…Can throw the touch pass…Stands tall in the pocket…Good footwork…And a rocket for an arm…MBT has all the makings of the Vikings back up QB next season…

    Many of the tools Webb does not have, actually… : /

  81. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Harvin is a VERY GOOD WR…Is Ponder having trouble getting him the ball ???…Nope…One of the best this season…

    Rudolf is a good TE…Is Ponder having trouble getting him the ball ???…(when he doesn’t have to try and block so much, like he has too of late)…5 TD’s for Rudolf…Makes plays when his number is called…

    And Simpson has played 2 games…Stats don’t count yet…

    Ahhhhh…But then you get to Jenkins and Shudo…Are they running around open on the football field ???…NO…Nope…Never…Nada…

  82. By Troutdaddy on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    All you people calling out Ponder need to grow up and give the kid a chance. Were you throwing him under the bus when he was rated #1 the first 5 weeks? Webb is not the answer. The answer lays with our O-line protecting Ponder and for our O.C. to step up and be more aggressive with the play-calling and to use more people to make those plays. Sorry Spencer, but Cook up to this point has not been a huge factor- especially in the first 5 games. he has done ok but nothing to make me jump up and down for. I hope he recovers fast and that he can come back stronger. In the mean time it will be interesting to see if Robinson can make a name for himself. I am feeling like us fans need to take a bit of a chill-pill for the next week and let our boys do the same and hopefully we will see a rested, fired-up team that can start fresh and implement the stuff they need to do in order to finish strong the second half and make the playoffs. Quit whining and support our team. Pucker-trucker, you are a piece of work, but I can see that you are pretty passionate about stuff- so that is ok. (I basically disagree with you but still enjoy your posts!)

  83. By Parkway on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Um he was number one for like a week in pass completion %, hardly an important stat when you are throwing 5 yard p@sses and screens.

  84. By Titus the One on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    I think the Vikings will surprise everyone with two wins before the bye.

  85. By Parkway on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Well if you think Ponder’s performances can’t get any worse… Seattle’s pass defense is better than the Cards where he only threw for 58 and 2 INTs. So I hope he’s going to man up and Musgrave gives him a good game plan.

  86. By Titus the One on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings 24, Seahawks 17

  87. By Dakotakid59 on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    you guys need 2 get off of ponders ass there were some plays out there that were just flat out just not his fault.Like that long pass 2 to Simpson that went right through his big fat mits. Ang God bless him but Ap fumble was a big one also. It’s only his 2nd year I think he has made great strides. Webb is good but he runs to much.

  88. By Parkway on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Negativity: [On] Off

    Seahawks 13, Vikes 3

  89. By Titus the One on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    No no no Parkway. This is one of those games where the Vikes come out and play perfectly–this is a Vikings domination– mark my words. I predicted the Tampa loss three weeks ago– and now, with the same certainty, I see a huge Vikings win– if not, I will not blog for three weeks.

  90. By dieseldog on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Titus…..do you really think that Frazier will out coach Carrol in a seatle home game? I hope you are right….we will see.

  91. By dieseldog on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Cook gets hurt and immediately Frazier says they will be looking at the waiver wire for a replacement, yet he has done nothing to find a receiver, he just doesn’t seem to make any sense. Green Bay would dig somebody out of the wood pile if they needed a guy.

  92. By Parkway on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Call up Plax lets get that big bodied receiver we need

  93. By BlueBird7 on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Titus

    I don’t want to be negative, but what will you do those 3 weeks?

    Seahawks–31—Vikings–17.

  94. By sandiamond on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    lol by frazier, there isnt a CB on the waiver wire anyway

  95. By Parkway on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Ha I was going to ask a similar question.. I think my 13 to 3 score is more accurate though with their ineffective offense and good defense.

  96. By Titus the One on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    AP 200 yrds on the ground against the Hawks

  97. By Titus the One on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    If we had had Peyton Manning, do all of you think we would be 8-0 right now?

  98. By Parkway on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Yes we would Titus. Great QBs make even average players better and he would be running our offense not Musgrave. Maybe 7-1

  99. By Titus the One on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    I think so too–

  100. By Parkway on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Here’s a well-said quote from BR:

    “By unleashing the fury of the three-yard pass on a weekly basis, teams have figured out that they can bottle up the Vikings by standing five yards from the line of scrimmage and watching the play unfold in front of them.”

  101. By Graffiti on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    As I saw it, the defense has to take much of the blame for the loss. They gave up 3rd and long all night and could not get off the field.

  102. By Titus the One on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Who is BR?

  103. By Parkway on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    @Graffiti: Maybe because our offense couldn’t stay on the field for longer than 3 downs at a time? They were clearly tired since they were on the field the whole game.

  104. By Parkway on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Not who, but what. Bleacher Report

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1385239-minnesota-vikings-why-the-vikings-are-showing-signs-of-2006-season

  105. By Titus the One on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry, but a source is always a who, in my humble opinion as a writer. You always need to evaluate by who is behind the info (not to say I have problems with bleacher report).

  106. By Titus the One on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    At any rate, we have now regressed to 2006? Yikes.

  107. By Graffiti on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Sure 3 and out does not help a tired defense but they stopped them cold on 1st and 2nd down. Just seemed that when they needed to make a play they came up small.

  108. By Titus the One on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    It was a team loss, but an elite QB such as Brees would definitely have made a difference. Would we have won? I think so. Does that change we are building for the future? NO. We need to give this experiment a chance, but a coach needs to make sure changes are done within a reasonable time frame– if Ponder struggles the first half and Frazier does not adjust– I am outta here. Last year we watched McNabb stumble for half the season with no changes– PALEEEEEEZE. The team is more than Ponder– as Fred Jones so aptly points out.

  109. By Spencer on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    You’re finally giving up on Ponder, Titus?

    About time.

  110. By Graffiti on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder looks like a Mark Sanchez type to me. In other words middle of the road.
    Teams can win with that type of QB but he needs to take care of the football. They also need a defense that creates turnovers and gets off the field on third downs. The Vikes give up a first down to the opponents on third down almost half the time
    this year.

  111. By Titus the One on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    I would have put Webb or MBT in at the fourth quarter the other night– everything– I mean everything had turned our way– and Ponder could not connect. You have to make hard decisions – at that point we had 15 minutes, momentum– and two scores would have taken the lead.

  112. By dan smith on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    A leader must take on what is kniwn as command presence. Bud Grantl/Fran Tarkenton, Bill Parcellsl/Phil Simms and so on. Jared Allen,;eader, Adrian Peterson;leader, but neither Coach Frazier nor Christian Ponder are leaders during the battle. Just as Cam Newton has shown flaws these two newly appointed leaders must show more intense and better decision making Frazier looks like he is constipated and Ponder plays under pressure like he is sccared. Fix those and we go far. Skol Vikings

  113. By BlueBird7 on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Titus

    Seattle has a Top 10 rated Secondary Defense. They are playing at home.

    Brandon Browner who is a ball hawk, CB.

    Marshawn Lynch is the RB, he isn’t fast but like Peterson, will run over you on his way to the End Zone.

    Still think it will be Vikings – 24, Seattle – 17 ?

  114. By BlueBird7 on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Titus

    I agree with you on changing QB in 4th Q. I was screaming at the TV for Frazier to wake up and put Joe Webb in.

  115. By ajjeffersonFRESNO on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Aj Jefferson will definitely do a great job for the Vikings hope he gets playing time, did you not see his vertical :O.

  116. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Bethel-Thompson is a better QUARTERBACK than Joe Webb.

  117. By Titus the One on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    I know Seattle is good– their D sacked Rodgers – what six times in the first half?
    But, yes, I think the Vikes will pull it off– have the same feeling I did about the Niners– the Vikes will be on all cylinders. If there is one not firing, then replace it– with MBT or Webb!!!

  118. By C'mon Man! on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Aj Jefferson will do well, he knows the Seattle defense. Having played them 2 times a year when he was in their division.

  119. By C'mon Man! on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    MBT is a better QB than Webb…But Webb is a better athlete…..But look at where that has Vick and Newton. I’ll take a passer any day.

  120. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    I’ve said multiple times Webb is a 1st round athlete but a 7th round QB

  121. By Rippppka on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    who else is ready for the 2013 draft? does anyone else realize that we have 5 division games and two of three more teams (texans and seahawks) that are all better then these bucs, left to play. bring on the draft

  122. By sandiamond on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Jarvis jones 13 tackles 3 sacks 2 ff 2 fr. Let’s see what T’eo got!

  123. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap1000000083979/top-20-college-players-at-midseason

  124. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    IMan I love those Notre Dame helmets

  125. By Parkway on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Hopefully we can get Kennan Allen in the first round, otherwise Teo

  126. By Titus the One on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Bucs are a much much better team than their record– first game in Dallas, they held the Cowboys to 16 points (but their O only scored 7). Tampa looked super two years ago, but had a few growing pains lately– but their D is very good. And the past few weeks their Offense has been productive. I knew they would play us well— but we have a good team.

    After the BYE, though, you have to be a fool, to think we will do better than 3-3.

  127. By missed the boat on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    we need to draft a qb, trade up for the 1st pick in the draft. Ponder can’t compete in the nfc North, he is a bottom 5 qb

  128. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    As much as i want us to stick with Ponder, Its hard to watch the other 3 QBs in the division then watch Ponder and be excited or impressed with his play.

  129. By Parkway on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Keenan Allen, A healthy Childs, Percy, Rudolph, Carlson (if he ever shows up probably not)?, more experienced J wright, and AP

    That would give Ponder a lot of options and 0 excuses next year.

  130. By Parkway on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    2nd and 3rd rounds should be best CB and best OG available depending on who is available and where we pick each round.

  131. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    I mean Rodgers, Cutler, and Stafford can throw bullets like its nothing. Ive seen all 3 throw at least 40 off their back foot, and Ponder has to step into a 20 yard throw.

  132. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    There are always going to be plays where the OLine breaks down. Ponder cant always depend on his athletic ability to escape pressure. There are going to be times where he will have to throw off his back foot and then his lack of arm strength will really show itself.

  133. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Rodgers, Cutler, Stafford, they could be pressured all night, have been sacked 5 or more times in a game and still throw for 300+ yards. I don’t see that from Ponder.

  134. By Parkway on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Said well GDP. I was saying the other day how you never see him zip one across the middle into tight coverage past 15 yards either…

  135. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    I mean 1-on-1s our receivers saw pretty much the entire game. You HAVE to throw into those and trust your receiver to make a play. Jerome Simpson has shown in the very limited targets he has gotten that he can go up and win those match-ups. We know Percy can get separation. Micheal Jenkins is 6’4. He doesnt need separation in 1-on-1 situations hes taller than most CBs throw it up and he will go get it. Except the seahawks they have some really tall corners.

  136. By sandiamond on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Top three K Allen, J Hunter, RWoods. not sold on any of them as a game changer day1 starter

    http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php

  137. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    But I look at the other 2 QBs we have and we have to stick with Ponder. We’ve seen what he can do and so do the other teams. He has to show us he can do more by the end of the season or we really have to consider looking in another direction at QB

  138. By Parkway on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    It’s a fairly weak WR draft so far sandiamond and none of them are going to be Calvin Johnson coming out but I think Allen or Hunter would be a big upgrade to what we have now and could make a difference. We are going to have to take one of them since I don’t think we are going to trade for Bowe and I don’t think there are a lot of good WR FA fits this coming offseason.

  139. By D on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    OT Tackle Kalil..How did you listen to Paul Allen’s calls of the game?

  140. By Titus the One on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    RG3 won’t last in this league, but Luck will be very good. Ponder will be okay, but not seeing anything great either. What concerns me the most is his pouting sing-song press conferences– his language and body tell me all I need to know.

  141. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Radio D

  142. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    I’m assuming

  143. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Yes Titus I dislike RG3 as well. Anyone who flops in football is on my sh!t list.

  144. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    I cant wait to see what D!ck LeBeau has in store for RG3

  145. By sandiamond on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway the best wr is Sammy Watkins but even if he was in the draft I know for a FACT Ponder can not get him the ball. Best case would be having the deep threat solved before the draft

  146. By Parkway on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    I know he is i wish he was coming out this draft. If our scouts were doing a good job and knew there wasn’t much coming up they would figure out a way to get Bowe before the deadline and make his contract work and still be able to pay percy.

  147. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway I doubt that will happen even tho i would love for us to have D Bowe. We have to take care of Percy first before we even consider trading for/signing another receiver.

  148. By missed the boat on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    it only took Seattle one year to figgure out Tarvaris Jackson wasn’t starting material. one of the biggest reasons head coaches keep a qb they draft is because they don’t want to admit they were wrong. draft a a good qb for our new stadium, so Frazier has to go

  149. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    We couldve had Mike Pouncy the best center in the league.

  150. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Tavaris wasn’t a 1st round pick

  151. By sandiamond on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    wobble an ugly word now

  152. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Greg Jennings, Dwayne Bowe, Mike Wallace, and Malcom Floyd will all be unrestricted free agents next year.

  153. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    and Wes Welker but I dont like him

  154. By missed the boat on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    no, but he still wasted 4 years as a viking as a low tier qb

  155. By sandiamond on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    oh well not going to retype back to Parkway now but i was talking about a Ponder wobble pass not mike wobbles

  156. By Parkway on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    The only one I would consider is Floyd

  157. By sandiamond on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    time for a new blog!

  158. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Floyd is 6’5

  159. By sandiamond on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Te’o 10 tackles 1 sack at the half wow

  160. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Yeah this guy is a beast

  161. By Titus the One on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Why my Bills took TJack I have no idea– they will fire their coach at the end of this season, if not before. Frazier I give the rest of this season– if he keeps a struggling Ponder in while two young backups are in the wings to mix it up, then I may say time for a change.

  162. By sandiamond on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Titus, MBT doesn’t have a nfl throw you cant just throw him in the ring of fire

  163. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

  164. By sandiamond on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    what’s going on? mbt overthrowing all the receivers badly

  165. By Viking33 on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    I would love to have Steve Smith – old he may be but single coverage on him and he will rip your head off to get the ball.

    We would have the two badest a s s little wide receivers in the league. Harvin or Smith who do you double??

    Dare to dream I guess.

    Never been a Bowe guy – seems to lack heart.

    I don’t know if it is worth breaking the bank to sign a receiver now though….it may re ta rd the growth of this young team.

    We will miss Cook – he seemed to be playing with a good Swag out there.

  166. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Thats right we are so used to seeing underthrows

  167. By sandiamond on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Heck yes! Smith’s contract is prefect with 2 1/2 years left then he could retire a Viking. Percy and Steve would scorch all corners in the NFL!

  168. By Viking33 on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Floyd is a IR machine – Wallace would be great – you can’t single him up, but I don’t know if Ponder has the arm for Wallace.

  169. By Viking33 on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    All those 3 and outs by our offense really took its toll on our Defense. Our Defense looks so much better when given a little time between series. Why are we getting away from a short passing game / running game with occasional play action shots?? The Offense looks way to forced and predictable.

    Simpson targeted 10 times in the game with 2 receptions…..one then fumbled? Maybe that isn’t going so well, I would like to see Rudolph get some of those Targets I think.

  170. By Parkway on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder couldn’t ever get it to wallace in stride down the field

  171. By chris_b on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    I am with you viking33 I dont think ponder has the arm either. We need a big wr that can get open and catch. Someone like Fitzgarld.

  172. By Spencer on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Oh my goodness.

    Marcus Lattimore suffered a Broken Femur, Broken Patella, Torn ACL, Torn MCL, Torn PCL, and Torn LCL in Todays Game, on one hit.

  173. By chris_b on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    That was hard to watch him when he got hit. Worse than the Joe Thiesman hit when he broke his leg in half.

  174. By Viking33 on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Ya – too bad for that Lattimore kid. That was pretty gruesome.

  175. By Parkway on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Yeah it looked terrible. Too bad for him he was projected as a first round pick. Now he’ll be lucky to even play college football next year and try to make himself NFL worthy

  176. By Viking33 on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    I agree – if we can get another receiver that can beat single man coverage. That would really open up the offense.

    By opening up the offense I mean we would have one more pass play other than the Bubble Screen…..Dare to Dream Musgrave……..Dare to Dream.

  177. By Viking33 on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    ND and OK tied at 13 – pretty good game

  178. By Viking33 on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    What does Charlie Weiss have that makes him employable?? He just keeps failing miserably and getting new job after new job. Man I wish I could su ck like him.

  179. By Viking33 on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    I saw ND run a Post pattern – I hope Musgrave saw that – why don’t we throw to the middle of the field??

  180. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder needs to take more chances down the field.

  181. By Spencer on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Its time for Webb

  182. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    All his INTs are coming off of short throws not deep throws

  183. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Your right Spencer it is time for Webb…..to stop thinking he will be a QB in this league and tell Fraizer he will do whatever it takes to get on the field and help us win

  184. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Whenever Webb got on the field last year whether it was at QB, receiver or in the backfield defenses had to pay attention to him. We need another dynamic like that on the field for us

  185. By Titus the One on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Sandiamond– YES I CAN.

    By sandiamond on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply
    Titus, MBT doesn’t have a nfl throw you cant just throw him in the ring of fire

  186. By Parkway on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Webb is 6 4, 4.4 speed, 42″ vertical, it can’t be that hard to learn to run a few routes and catch the ball with those athletic skills

  187. By Viking33 on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    No one listens to us GrandDaddy – P…..Webb is a weapon of mass destruction wasting away on the bench. He is our answer at WR…has been for years

  188. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Line Webb up out wide motion him into the backfield, move him around the field just like they do Harvin, The defense cant sleep on him. Ponder, Webb, Harvin, Peterson all on the field at the same time. You want to know what would help this offense. How wouldn’t that make us more prolific?

    They want to put all the focus on AD or Harvin? They will get burned by Webb.

  189. By Viking33 on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    I love seeing Webb in the open field…..he makes it look so easy.

  190. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Why cant we put Webb AND Ponder in the backfield? You cant do that in the NFL they say. Yeah you cant run the option either but the Broncos did that last year with Tebow and same with the Panthers and Cam. Now the Redskins do it with RG3.

    F-ck the “traditional” way to play. PUT WEBB IN THE D@MN GAME!

  191. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    To keep a guy like Webb on the bench is not only doing him injustice, but his team and WE THE FANS A HUGE INJUSTICE!

  192. By Viking33 on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Looks like the Gophers put it on Purdue today – that young QB doesn’t look too bad. Not to mention the walk on WR they have that broke all of Decker’s Minnesota High School receiving records.

  193. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    D@mn 23-10 Notre Dame!

  194. By Spencer on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    *23-13

  195. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    whoops my bad

  196. By Viking33 on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Ya I don’t understand it either, I thought teams wanted their playmakers on the field…….but not us. We pick that trend to buck??

  197. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Like I’ve said before, If i were the coach I would walk right up to Webb and ask him the simple question “Do you want to be a quarterback or do you want to win?”

  198. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

  199. By Parkway on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    That video does get me fired up about Webb…. I think the most incredible thing about that vid is that I think I saw rock hands Berrian catch a ball?

  200. By chris_b on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    when do you guys think simpson will start to be a factor. He is going to be in carlsons league pretty soon.

  201. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    When Ponder stars to take chances and actually throw into single coverage.

  202. By True Vikes Fan on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

  203. By True Vikes Fan on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    For whoever said that ponder hasn’t made any throws of more then 15 yards down the seem there is two in the video with an impressive one at 1:25 and whoever says he lack arm strength he throws a nice pass of 59 yards through the air

  204. By True Vikes Fan on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe its just the conservative play calling? I think they need to trust ponder more and gives him a lil more control of the offense and give him more coffidence

  205. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    That second to last throw is exactly what I’m talking about. Ponder threw it into single coverage and Jenkins went up and got it. Ponder hasn’t done that this season. The offense is too dependent on those short throws

  206. By Parkway on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    There are some nice throws in there… but sorry it’s not really a Ponder highlight when he throws it 5 yards to Percy and he runs 50 yards or throws it 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage to Toby for a 25 yard TD…

  207. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    True Vikes Fan arm strength is a bad phrase to use. Throwing Power is better. He lacks throwing power.

  208. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    When you watch Rodgers, Cutler, and Stafford, you can see the difference in throwing power between the 3 and Ponder. A HUGE difference.

  209. By True Vikes Fan on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Yea but i think thats because of the play calling from OC musgrave. I also think you guys should stop being on the Ponder hate bandwagon and look at the OC because Ponder can make the throws but it seems they dont let him

  210. By Parkway on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    I’ve been calling for Musgrave to be fired since last year

  211. By Titus the One on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    YEAH- LAY OFF PONDER. This is getting out of hand.

  212. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    I admit i might overreact at times but I am far from a Ponder hater. Believe me when I say I want Ponder to succeed.

  213. By Titus the One on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Bernard Berrian, now that is an idea…

  214. By True Vikes Fan on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    I think with a new offensive coordinator, we would be fine with ponder as QB because i think he is very intelligent and makes very nice accurate throws for the most part but there is only so much you can do when the blocks are breaking down all the time and he is rushing out of the pocket and of course he is going to make some mistakes but that is part of the learning process all great QB’s throw interceptions

  215. By Immure on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    A little of topic but I saw GDP mention something about RG3s flop and it got me thinking about it and I think the worst flop I ever saw was one that J. Simpson did last year with Cinci against the Browns.

  216. By Titus the One on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Bring Berrian in– I am sure he would come cheap.

  217. By Frederick Jones on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    I prefer Webb as the starter, but we should not bench Ponder yet. You have to give him a chance to come out of this.

    Besides, Ponder is not the only reason for the offense playing bad. The O Line, receivers, and defense are more responsible for the offensive drift.

    The defense must get the ball to the offense. They have not been able to do that consistently this year.

    Webb should get a chance to start,or relieve after the bye week, if things don’t start to improve. We don’t want to go 3-5 the rest of the way, which right now would sound very good!!!

    Marcus Sherels is the quickest player in the NFL. He can play CB for the Vikings. Give him a few reps in real games!!!

  218. By Titus the One on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Fred Jones is in DA HOUSE!!!!

  219. By Frederick Jones on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is not the only reason for the offense playing bad. The O Line, receivers, and defense are more responsible for the offensive drift.

    Jones knows that Marcus Sherels is the quickest player in the NFL, and can learn to play CB!!!

  220. By Frederick Jones on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Jones also knows that the Vikings were very sloppy against the Bucs. I bet they practiced more than one day before that game.

    But Frazier is being smart and preparing for the long haul.

  221. By Frederick Jones on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Hi Titus,

    How is the biking going?

  222. By Titus the One on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Pretty good this week– 102 miles for the week. But been very busy- that was more than usual. I may do some running when it gets colder to make me a stud like Fred Jones.

  223. By Spencer on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Lay off Ponder?

    Why should we? Hes a scrub.

  224. By Titus the One on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    In two years, Ponder may prove to be quite good. Maybe a Tom Brady or Drew Brees.

  225. By True Vikes Fan on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    @Spencer why are you so negative? you should have faith in your team and QB

  226. By Spencer on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    I had faith im him, but im not seeing much improvement over these past couple of games. Hope he gets better but I dont see it happening. The Seahawk secondary is gonna have a field day.

  227. By Spencer on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    Who won?

  228. By True Vikes Fan on Oct 27, 2012 | Reply

    That’s because the o-line hasn’t been protecting as good as they have the first five and also the play calling was pretty terrible and also when things get tough don’t just bail on your QB and act like we are a 2-6 team when we are a 5-3 and ponder has shown he can play lights out football when he has some decent blocking

  229. By Animal26 on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    why should we lay off of Ponder? I sure as heck am concerned that he isn’t the answer. Now I’ve seen people say, “but this is only his 2nd year in the league and his first year as a true starter” Now the first year starter thing is a bunch of BS. he was a full time starter half way through last year and got his feet wet. You only give a QB one year of babying. If he doesn’t improve some in the 2nd year, then you have to be worried and start wonder if Webb is the better man for the job. So far, Ponder hasn’t really improved at all. Some will talk about the stats. Now hey, guess what? He is lucky to have the stats he’s got. In the first 4-5 games, in all honesty. Ponder should have thrown a few Picks in each of those games, but lucky enough for him, they were dropped. If those were picked off, like many of them should have been. The Vikings probably would have lost those games. The only thing That has improved some for ponder, from last year; is his luck.

  230. By Immure on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is one of those QBs that people will either like or dislike probably for his whole career and will continue to blog about. Like they do with Flacco, Romo, Stafford, Cutler, ect.
    But regardless of what some fans want or say he’ll be the starting QB for the rest the year and next season (barring an injury happens). He’s not just tied to Frazier but Speilman as well and they plan on seeing his development through.

  231. By Ozzinator on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    @ Titus – It would be a shame if the Vikes lose to the Seahawks. You contribute too much to this blog to have you gone for three weeks…………

  232. By sandiamond on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    @ Titus… NO you can’t he’s not on the active roster yet!

  233. By sandiamond on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    All the pundits say the Vikes need to win 2 of 3 before the bye week(playoff run) Sea and Det wins are the path to glory !! Go Big Purple Machine

  234. By Melvin on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    It’s funny how ppl are bad mouthing Webb when whenever he played he had played gr8 when ponder threw 3 inter and was benched Webb came in and almost saved the game till the fumble on goal line from the facemask when he came in for ponder after he got concussion in Washington game he went 4-5 89 yds 2 td’s and ran for a td so u do ppl keep bad mouthing him when all he does is produce when he gets on games it jus doesn’t make sense

  235. By 32frank12 on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    I really hope the organization trys and making a move for Dwayne Bowe. He really wants out of KC. We have what 9 draft picks this spring. We could afford to lose a couple for him. Then we would not have to worry about drafting a WR and we could focus on getting Manti Te’O or Amerson in the first round.
    What do you guys think of that?

  236. By missed the boat on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    the thing is, Ponder is nothing but a back up qb. why on earth did the Vikings waste a 1st round pick on a 2nd string qb? i DON’T want to watch Ponder for the next 15 years choke out losses! get rid of Ponder! AKA 3 and out

  237. By missed the boat on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    i would say get Bowe, but don’t give more than a 3rd round and 6th round draft pick for him

  238. By missed the boat on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    none of us are getting any younger. we all want to see the vikings win a superbowl. not possible with Ponder!

  239. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Think fans…

    The mighty Joe Webb coming in and WINNING that Washington game…The battle between the basement dwellers in each others divisions at the time…

    Shanahan knew he was battling for a higher draft pick in that game with losing in the second half…

    Did Frazier ???…By playing AP coming off an injury to early…And then losing him to MAJOR injury…Why didn’t Webb START that game…Why didn’t Toby ??…It was a totally meaningless game !!!…

    Shanahan also wanted Ponder in the draft…That is why he dropped down in the draft…Not taking Gabbert…Thinking the Vikings would not select Ponder at 12…Vikings did…End of story…

    But why not let Webb, look great in a meaningless game…If you are Shanahan…Get a higher draft pick the next spring…Because you already played well against the future QB in Ponder…And got a good game tape of what he could do…

    There were plenty of Viking fans wanting the team, to “try” and lose that game at that time…So the Vikings got a higher draft pick…Seeing the game was “meaningless”…

    Frazier would not do that…

    I believe Shanahan “did” throw that game…After the mighty Joe Webb came in to save the day…

    But fans can “believe” what you will ???…

    Did Webb win that game…Or did Shanahan lose it on purpose in the second half ???…

  240. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    @ D…

    Thanks for the help on letting him know GDP…; )

    P Allen is on Vikings radio…

  241. By PurplHaze on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    My Vikes need an OC with a plan on Game Day! We haven’t had a well thought out offensive game plan since the ‘9ers! It’s depressing to watch anymore!

  242. By BlueBird7 on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Some of you can bad-mouth Webb all you want. There are a number of us that already know he is not only a good QB, but also exciting to watch! Keep your fair-haired Fumble, Intercept machine. Put Webb in if you want somebody to win the *&%@# game for you!

  243. By PurplHaze on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    WEBB IS NOT THE ANSWER, AND MUSGRAVE IS TOO PREDICTABLE!!!

  244. By Parkway on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Webb obviously won the Redskins game. They wouldn’t have blown out APs knee if they were trying to lose. You’re better than that OTK. Next your going to quote the meaningless stat of Ponder’s no interceptions and pass completion percentage to start the season…

  245. By VikesShield on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    YES BEARS ARE LOSING

  246. By Immure on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    If the Chiefs trade Bowe they’ll want multiple draft picks (something like what the Broncos or Dolphins got for Marshal.) Any team that trades for Bowe is gonna want it guaranteed that he’ll sign an extension before the offseason.

    Can they afford both Bowe and Harvin (needs/’deserves a contract extension)?
    With quite a few players on a 1 year deal or an expiring contracts at the end of the season. It may be possiple to afford both but the team might need to rework some of the bigger contracts i.e. J.A., Big Kevs, A.P., Greenway, ect. to do so.

    Another problem that we run it to is can the Vikings afford to give up multiple 2nd or 3rd round picks to get Bowe. Like I said earlier with quite a few players on a 1 year deal or an expiring contracts at the end of the season we’re gonna need to fill those holes as well. At LB, DL, OL, DB, and WR.

  247. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    @Spencer
    Sorry that you buddy Cookie monster got hurt. He actually was playing pretty well.

    @anyone who wants to comment
    So the question is do the Vikings take a CB early in the draft for an insurance policy just in case Cook continues to have injuries?
    What with this Steve Smith trade rumors? Its the Panther one right? If so could be a decent one year option.
    Harvin NEEDS some one else to play WR with.

  248. By Immure on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Another question is what are the Vikings gonna do with the Oline next year? Are they gonna keep C. Johnson or G. Schwartz?

    But the biggest question is Loadholt. Do we resign him, Draft a new RT, or Sign a new RT in free agency?

    So theres alot of factors to look at before the team decides to trade for someone.

  249. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    @Immure
    Bowe is not worth that much to the Vikings. Well thats the feeling I have.
    The draft has some good WR that could be gotten to pair with Harvin.
    The plus for this are:
    1) Contracts would be manageable. Which would allow for resigning Harvin.
    2) Bowe is gonna be 29 next year. So does not fit youth movement.
    3) Spielman is good at drafting. So taking picks away from him would hurt the teams development.
    4) Because I wanted a 4th reason. Aint that good enough?

  250. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    @ Immure
    Again Spielman is good at drafting so he likely could find a RT. But if they trade for Bowe it could hurt that. Also CHARLIE JOHNSON S U C K S!

  251. By VikesShield on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Wow u guys are already talking about the draft….wow

  252. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    @VikesShield
    I am talking about how trading for Bowe could hurt the teams development. Since Spielman is good at drafting guys taking picks away from him would/could be costly.
    But going into the draft the team has to question Cook’s durability.

  253. By Parkway on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    I’d take Keenan Allen first round if we could get him….. Need to get rid of C. Johnson and get rid of Kevin Williams contract too to clear up some space he isn’t playing up to his contract at all.

  254. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Also @VikesShield
    If people who get paid to analyze can toss out a few thousand mock draft a year, heck some even project the year after which is crazy, then I why can’t I ask what people feel the Vikings needs are.

  255. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Kevin may be closing in on retirement.
    Allen is putting up good numbers with a sub par QB. Could be a good pick up but maybe going after a G or OT in the first would be better. Or if Williams does go away a new DT.

  256. By Parkway on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Teo would be ideal but I think he will go within the first 10 picks. Both brinkley and henderson’s contracts are up this year, and while they aren’t terrible, I’d like to see us get at least one LB that can actually cover.

    There are a number of good OTs that will be available in FA, but I honestly don’t think we’ll ever replace loadholdt til we are in a McKinnie situation

  257. By Immure on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    @H.M.G.
    I share alot of the same thoughts on the subject as you do. Thats why I wrote those previous post because there is alot of things that factor in before making a trade which will involve draft picks.
    Now I’m necessarily opposed to trading for Bowe or any other player if the price is right but at the same time necessarily for it either. It all depends on Speilmans long term plans. I have faith in him to make the right decision that will be beneficial for the team.

  258. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    I had a funny feeling last night the Panthers would beat the Bears but I thought I would look like a complete fool if I said so– and I knew it was so far fetched, I ignored the thought. Now the game ain’t over— but Panthers are up 19-7 with 9 minutes to go— who would have thought? At Chicago! Anything can happen any week. It ain’t over for the Vikes.

  259. By Immure on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    The Jags were hanging in there with the Packers as well.

  260. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Well, I just turned on the TV– scratch the last comment.

  261. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Although it ain’t over. We need a defense like Chicago– a scoring defense.

  262. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    We need to be on our feet and scream at our TVs — help the Panthers!

  263. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    GO PANTHERS!!!

  264. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    BAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  265. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    DA BEARS!

  266. By missed the boat on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    good teams win the games they suppose to win. the vikings need to run the table on both bears and packers games, and we have squander 3 and out Ponder as qb.

  267. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Pittsburgh had the coolest uniforms today– we need more like that. Cool bees.

  268. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    @Immure
    Agreed Spielman will make the right decisions for the teams future and present.

  269. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Bears get lucky on Smith falling down…

    And Packers win on bad yellow flag…

  270. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    One thing for sure…

    The Vikings are as good as any team in this division !!!

  271. By Parkway on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    In Spielman we Trust!

  272. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Tricky Ricky for Spielman’s nickname.

  273. By missed the boat on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    we are good as any team when Ponder plays without mistakes. that hasn’t happened for 2 weeks in a row now

  274. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Aaron Rodgers SU CK S!
    Sick of his face on TV.
    Shouldn’t the QB who just won a SB be the guy getting all the love.

  275. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    The OLine has looked like a turn style the last 2 games as well.
    Likely a leading factor in Ponder not being settled.

  276. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    2013 OLine draft prospects.
    OT/G/C Barret Jones Alabama
    G Chance Warmack, Alabama
    G Johnathan Cooper, North Carolina
    OT/G Dallas Thomas, Tennessee
    OT Brennan Williams, North Carolina

  277. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    A Rodgers against the Jags…22-35..186 yards…2 TD’s…
    1 fum..

    Ponder against the Jags…20-27…270 yards…0 TD’s…
    0 turnovers…

    I know…But Ponder sucks…

    Rodgers is a the best in football…?????????

    C’mon man !!!!…

  278. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Yep Ponder is the worst QB in the world.
    Man he is awful.
    Noodle arm.

  279. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    hahahahahaha…

  280. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    He still needs targets and a OLine that know how to play.

  281. By Parkway on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Definitely need guard help, I haven’t looked at the tape well enough to know if fusco is struggling… but I already know Johnson is terrible. The first 4 rounds of our draft need to be a WR, LB, OG and CB, in whichever order works out the best.

  282. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Do you even want me to look up the stats between both QB’s..

    When both teams played the 49ers ???…

  283. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Way too early to turn on Ponder. I think there are noodles for brains around here.

  284. By Immure on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    If I’m remembering correctly I believe most the pressure on the QB has been coming from the left side. So its that would be on Kalil and Johnson (mostly Johnson.) Kalil and Fusco have made some mistakes but this is their first year as starters and they have done more good than bad. Johnson on the other hand is just a waste of cap space.

  285. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Immure…

    That is where I see the most pressure coming from also…

    C Johnson at the G position on the field…

    But do not look for Frazier to replace Johnson…He is a veteran..Just like Jenkins…

    Youth seems to scare the h3ll out of Frazier…Why not put in Schwartz for Johnson…And leave Fusco alone…Or young Asper ???…

  286. By Matthias on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    The vikings lost this week…

    The Bears, Packers and Lions all won their games…

    After coming home, after watching the Packers game, my toilet decided to cr4p on the floor with the result that my Appartment smells like sh1t and is literallzfull of cr4p and toilet paper…

    And the storm didn|t even arrive staten island….

    What a great week…

  287. By Immure on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Yea it wouldn’t hurt the team to try Schwartz sub package on the left side of the line. The pass protection started out pretty well earlier in the season but for some reason it has digressed the last few weeks.

  288. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Be careful on the east coast!

  289. By Parkway on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    What is demarcus love out with again? I thought he was looking like he would be a good OT

  290. By Immure on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Love is out with a Pectoral injury that required surgery.

  291. By TheHighschoolChamp on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Check this out, its star wars created in minecraft!

  292. By T.F.L.A.V. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    ^ Spencer I though you were more of a war craft guy?

  293. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Funny!!!

  294. By rmk800 on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    i give ponder untill halftime tops vs the hawks if he looks anything like hes has in the past 3 games take him out back old yeller style and unleash the weapon of mass destruction that is Joseph Webb, Jr.

  295. By Spencer on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    The nonstop talk about this hurricane is annoying. Tired of the hype.

  296. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Cowboys tried sooooooooooooooo hard. At least one good outcome today. Now, who to root for? Denver or New Orleans?

  297. By Spencer on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    I wonder if that was the same hand Dez Bryant slapped his mom with…

    Karma.

  298. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    slapped his mom? was he a kid at the time?

  299. By Immure on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    He supposedly slap his mom this offseason.

  300. By Immure on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Slapped*

  301. By Immure on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    And one could argue that he is still a child.

  302. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Wow. Well, I won’t judge– maybe she was out of control on drugs and needed to be slapped.

  303. By Mike B. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Well I saw Frazier’s presser. I guess that answers who is the starting QB for the Minneasota Vikings. Still can’t believe you are all whinning about Ponder, when we are 5-3. This team was predicted to be at the bottom or near bottom of the league this year. We are at over 500 at the end of the first half of the season. That’s pretty good. From what I saw of the Pack and the Bears, those teams are very not as good as others have them ranked. I think if this team is on it’s best game, we can beat both the Bears and the Packers. I am willing to let Frazier make his adjustments and see how the season plays out. I am really happy how the team is playing. Way better than I first predicted. I see a lot of never quit and try to win to the last minute. It’s a good sign.

  304. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Oh, I have to get one of those tablet/laptop combos!

  305. By Alex on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    I have a trade deadline idea, this probably won’t happen but it makes sense to me even though some of you might think it’s pretty stupid.

    We trade Toby Gerhart to the Arizona cardinals for Andre Roberts and a draft pick. Maybe a 3rd or 4th round pick.

    He’s their second string Wr and has been playing well this year and can run a 4.46 40 yard dash.
    They have the need at Rb we have the need at Wr. Granted he isn’t tall(5-11) so he wouldn’t be the great go route Wr we need but I think he could help the team and is young.

    But I doubt this will happen feel free to tell me this is also an awful trade.

  306. By Parkway on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    We should definitely trade Toby no matter what

  307. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    We need to trade Webb, Ponder, Gerhart, and Allen.

  308. By Immure on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Alex- Thats not a terrible trade scenario but ideally we would want to get a big bodied deep threat WR. But we could trade Toby and still be fine at running back with A.P., Asiata, and Toddman.

  309. By rmk800 on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    we should prolly just trade ap percy greenway harrison smith allen williams rudolph and winfeild to Detroit and let them go undefeated for 5 consecutive seasons. ponder is the savior anyways. guy could win the superbowl 11 vs 1

  310. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Good idea– trade Greenway for sure…

  311. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Build around Ponder, Cook, and Loadholt.

  312. By missed the boat on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is a bottom 5 qb, look it up

  313. By Immure on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    By rmk800 on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    we should prolly just trade ap percy greenway harrison smith allen williams rudolph and winfeild to Detroit and let them go undefeated for 5 consecutive seasons.
    __________________________________________________________________

    Well as long as it isn’t Greenbay or Chicago.

  314. By missed the boat on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    all good qb’s were doing very well by their 2nd year. Ponder just lost to Tampa. Tampa got beat by the Saints, now the saints are getting beat by Denver

  315. By Alex on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    I feel as though Matt Asiata can be a very good backup Rb and that trading Toby while he’s still young makes sense. I think picking up a young Wr would be good but I don’t want to see us lose draft picks.

  316. By Parkway on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    But really.. trade Toby

  317. By Parkway on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Exactly Alex. For the 4-5 snaps Toby plays, I think Asiata is more than capable.

  318. By missed the boat on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    trading Ponder is a good option. only problem is we would only get a 5th round pick for him. alot of teams out there need a good 2nd string qb like Ponder

  319. By missed the boat on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Toby is average at best, Ponder can’t even claim average, as he is a bottom 5 qb

  320. By missed the boat on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    that’s pretty sad when you hope a defense scores points so you can win a game

  321. By Immure on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Good QB’s 2nd year stats:

    Tom Brady: Comp% 63.9, 2843 yds, 18tds, 12 ints, 9 Fum. QB rating 86.8%

    Drew Brees: Comp% 60.8, 3284 yds, 17tds, 16ints, 2 Fum. QB rating 76.9%

    Aaron Rodgers: Kept the bench warm.
    __________________________________________________________________

    Ponder: Comp% 65.3, 1,743 yds, 10 td, 7int, 3 Fum. QB rating 85.8%

  322. By Alex on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Missed the boat you just described the way Chicago was won games all year this year.

    Had they not gotten a pick six today they would have lost.

  323. By missed the boat on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    or special teams

  324. By Immure on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    So did all good QBs do well in there 2nd year?

  325. By missed the boat on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Chicago has the 2nd best defense in the league, they can count on a pick 6

  326. By missed the boat on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder can’t even keep the defense on the sidelines long enough for rest

  327. By Matthias on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    At least we are not the jets… They are playing poorly and you can see that their defense isnt that good without Devis.

  328. By Alex on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Neither can Cutler, who started every single drive but 1 from his own 40 because of the way Carolina kicked off(they refused to kick the ball to Hester). They kept going 3 and out and punting when they were so close to field goal range on almost every drive.

  329. By missed the boat on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Tampa game wan’t even close

  330. By missed the boat on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    plus tampa’s pass defense is rated 25th in the league

  331. By Matthias on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Doesn’t really matter than the defense gets around 22 times to your QB. Look at Rodgers… He didn’t play like the Aaron Rodgers we have seen before. By the way… That stupid penalty is still freaking me out… GB can be lucky to have the Refs on their side. And the Jaguar’s WR’s are worse than ours. They could have won if their Receivers learn to catch…

  332. By Matthias on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    *would have learned

  333. By missed the boat on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder needs to use his back foot to throw a ball 20 yards. Cutler can throw 40 yards on his back foot, so can Rodgers

  334. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    If we had gotten Peyton Manning– we might be 8-0– seriously.

  335. By missed the boat on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    meant to say they don’t need to use their back foot to throw 40 yards

  336. By missed the boat on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    yep, i know

  337. By Matthias on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Poor Marcus Lattimore:

  338. By Kyle on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    If you are just gonna rip on Ponder think it in your mind and shut up! The man is doing his best out there with what he has. He doesn’t have enough time. I think our offensive line can do it they just need to work on blitz pick up. Recievers need to get open! Work with percy, jerome, and kyle over this week and get in tune with them. Also we have carlson who isn’t that bad. Throw him the ball! And heres one for the coaches, trade deadline is coming up, Dez Bryant isn’t doing the best in Dallas. Try to get him from them, give them a player and a pick or something. Sure he isn’t doing great there, but we have more than 1 player that could be good. Percy is percy and he is just good. Simpson is a nice complmentary reciever with good recievers. People are keyin in on Rudolph so he needs to find a way to get open. Or could we try to get Dwyane Bowe? He isn’t the best reciever but he is a deep threat. Just imagine this.

    QB- Christian Ponder, Joe Webb, Mcleod Bethel Thompson
    RB- Adrian Peterson, Toby Gerhart, Matt Isiata
    WR- Percy Harvin, Dez Bryant, Jerome Simpson, Michael Jenkins, Devin Aromoshadu
    TE- Kyle Rudolph, John Carlson, Rhett Ellison
    LT- Matt Kalil
    LG- Charlie Johnson
    C- John Sullivan
    Rg- Brandon Fusco, Geoff Schwartz
    RT- Phil Loadholt
    the first people the starters

    DE- Jared Allen
    DT, Letroy Guion
    Dt- kevin williams
    DE- Brian Robison
    Olb- Chad Greenway
    MLB- Jasper Brinkley
    OLB- Erin Henderson

    CB- Antoine Winfield, Josh Robinson, A.J Jefferson

    FS- Harrison Smith
    SS- Mistral Raymond

    i think that this lineup would be pretty good

    common leslie make some deals this trade deadline!!!!!!!!

  339. By Vlad19 on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    To Immure, Stats are NOT everything. In fact with this silly 7 yd field Ponder plays with because his O coordinator and head coach and teammates KNOW he cannot play beyond the 7 yd slants and screens, it is THAT fact that he is nowhere on the map with those other great QBs… and your comparison with Ponder’s AMAZING 85% rating against some of the worst football teams in the game so far is hardly telling. He has half a season to go and has been bad enough that even HE announces to the press he “needs to get better”, and HE knows the gameplan is an attempting at “childproofing” (or Ponder proofing) the offense. Eliminating mistakes by short throws off the rub and picks and screens – At 54 I could complete 50% of those throws.

    The prolem with Ponder bsides his inadequate performances, he is easy to gameplan against – he is panicky, so BLITZ – he can’t pick up the hot read, so BLITZ. And in standard coverage, you can play 8 in the box, sometimes 9 and STILL cover the pass as well as the run when Ponder is throwing… and lastly, how do you explain such anemic performances when he has one of the best running backs to help set up the run a QB could EVER want???? Ponder breaks all the rules of football.

    Pick a stat for ANYONE at the right time, they will look like a Pro-bowler. Stats are the most abused thing in defining talent. junk heap is full of guys who had a good month once.

  340. By Vlad19 on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Meant to say he has one of the best RBs EVER in Peterson to set up the pass…. how is that working for Ponder? Peterson is playing liek a pro-bowler. Ponder is wasting his opportunities.

    And that stuff about O lines need to pick up blitzes, that is partly right, but the QB most importantly must pick up the blitz, and Ponder misses most of the reads. That is as much the problem as a RB missing that pick-off block.

  341. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Wow, the Saints got owned. I feel bad for Brees.

  342. By Parkway on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Finally another sane mind Vlad. I hate when people quote meaningless stats all the time and act like it means ANYTHING. Do the eye test and what do you see?

  343. By Immure on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Vlad19- That chart was more directed to Missed the Boat because he said all good QBs do very well in there 2nd year.

    I’m not saying Ponder is gonna be as good as the guys I listed. And his stats will change for better or worst as the year goes on. But stats are the only thing we really have to compare to.

    But for someone to say that all good QB’s do very well in there 2nd is not true as that chart shows.

  344. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Stats mean nothing except provide empirical evidence of past performance and possible future extrapolation of what could be. There is a lot more to analysis than quantitative facts, and that is why you can or cannot rule Ponder out. Case in point– no one would argue Brees is an average quarterback, but he could do nothing tonight against Denver– let’s relax. No one here is Nostradamus, even if you have a cool name like Vlad.

  345. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    OLine needs to buy Ponder more time. It seems like a guy whats his name come on what is it oh yes. It seems like the LG Charlie Johnson has never heard of a blitz pick up before. Nope instead he needs to go help Sully who is taking care of his guy. Which then allow a BLITZING LB or a CB to come right through this nice little hole that Johnson just vacated.

  346. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe if the WRs not named Harvin ever got open Ponder would be able to complete a pass.

  347. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder can not help those things. He can only do what he is capable of doing. Just like Tom Brady’s wife said after the SB ” He can’t throw it and catch it.” Of course that was paraphrased.

  348. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Does Musgrave know more than 2 plays?
    It like its either AD run or Harvin screen.
    Defenses do start to key on plays after seeing them a few hundred times a game.

  349. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Yep Bash Ponder. He is the worst thing since disco.

  350. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Here, here HMG. Another intelligent analysis.

  351. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Thanks if you are being serious Titus.

  352. By Parkway on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Stats are made up 99% of the time

  353. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    There is only so much one man can do being this is the NFL and not the NBA. You win and lose as a team.
    Thats not to say one man can not cost a team a win.

  354. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    But to win everyone needs to be focused on that goal and not thinking of them selves.

  355. By liito on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    1. Get well soon Chris.
    2. Don’t know if Vikes are serious about fighting for a playoff spot.
    2. Even if the Vikes limp their way to the playoffs, the long ball is suspect. Who mentors C. Ponder at the quarterback position? It may take a while for him to develop unlike Luck or RG III who are true first round picks.

  356. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Happy Thanksgiving.

  357. By Immure on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    A little early aren’t you H.M.G?

  358. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    @liito
    Musgrave is supposed to be the QB guru. Which is FING hilarious.
    As for your true 1st round pick statement. Anyone taken in the first round is a legit first round pick. They may not all have the same talent level but they are what they are. Heck Tebow is a legit 1st round pick because of nutjob Josh McDaniels.

  359. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Well I doubt I am gonna be around so wishing you guys it a little early. But then again is it ever to early to wish others well?

  360. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    HMG, I am sincerely serious. Look at Brees tonight- I would argue he is in the top five of the current QBs– and what could he do tonight? I doubt Saints fans are saying trade him.

  361. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    I will save my Happy New Years till at least after Christmas.

  362. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Glad to hear it. It takes a team to win and it takes a village to raise a child.

  363. By Immure on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    H.M.G.- Well you make a good point so have a happy thanksgiving too.

  364. By Titus the One on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    When did I see Christmas stuff in Costco? I swear it was at the start of September, but cannot quite recall- it was at least a month ago.

  365. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Thanks. Hopefully we can all be thankful for 2 more Viking win between then and now.

  366. By Immure on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Speaking of Thanksgiving, When was the last time the Vikings played on it?

  367. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t care for the over commercialization of holidays. I have always thought of them as things that bring people closer together. Although it would be better if that feeling was year round instead but what ya gonna do.

  368. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    I think Moss was a Viking and it might have been against the Cowboys.

  369. By Parkway on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    After Ponder has a ring he can have a bad game

  370. By viking181164 on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    im glad im a patriot fan too..its a treat watching that offense week after week..then you watch these purple gang and its night and day…the question is how long do you give ponder and the coaches? ive noticed he stands on the sidelines after his possesion,when other qbs the good ones are in the notes always,and talking to coaches and players..wont be long before we see another qb,if not get used to this folks…

  371. By viking181164 on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    plus his snap count..always the same no hard count..cant change plays during reads at line of scrimmage…how long do we wait folks?

  372. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Steve Young, Brett Farve, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Joe Montana do I really have to go on. None of them one SB there first couple years. Seriously its a process.
    Heck Eli Manning has never been considered the better Manning QB but fact is he has two rings. Guess what he had a guy named Kurt Warner to help mentor him.

  373. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    Um have you not heard him yell Roger Roger Roger. It is some type I hot read I think. He has done it more then a few times.

  374. By H.M.G. on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    When Musgravy loosens Ponder’s leash he can put up good numbers. But Billy has a problem with control and thinks moving the ball up and down the field is bad.

  375. By Dave on Oct 28, 2012 | Reply

    I think that Aj Jefferson wont do that bad he had good coverage mike williams just made a few good plays

  376. By Vlad19 on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    My point is, leadership is lacking as much as anything from Ponder. You can always look at factual events, but never considering the intangibles that make the truest differences (like Tarkenton was supposed to wash out of the game according to a GREAT QB/coach Norm Van Brocklin)…. And there is a very linear condition from point of event to performance to success. Ponder fails in this chain in one place or another far too often.

    It is when those indomitable characters of the game that step in and change the game that you have your great ones (Joe Montana perhaps the best ever for this constancy and slighter NON-beast physique).

  377. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    I thought Musgrave is supposed to be a good QB coach.

  378. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    PAY PERCY

  379. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    PONDER THROW INTO SINGLE COVERAGE MORE

  380. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    UNLEASH WEBB

  381. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    I’M DONE NOW

  382. By Deertracks on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    GDP

    Gad, I sure hope so..

  383. By viking181164 on Oct 29, 2012 | Reply

    the question is? do we have the qb that could get any receiver the ball down field.. i say no..we seen his deep throws to simpson against tampa both throws took him out of bounds..pathetic

  384. By webb_4_ponder_get_off_the_crack on Oct 31, 2012 | Reply

    Funny to read all these posts about all the teams better than the bucs who we play. How many of those teams are better than SF who we already beat? 27-14 vikings. They will have a forth and goal go for it instead of kick a field goal and take control from there. I do think we go 10-6. We beat the seahawks, lions and after the bye we split w Chicago, packers and beat the rams. 10-6 at least. If we get a wr we win the division. Chicago next 9 games they see 7 with a winning record. Only team they.played to this point with a winning record beat them (green bay)

  385. By webb_4_ponder_get_off_the_crack on Oct 31, 2012 | Reply

    The deep throws were simpsons fault. U need to give ur Qb some room to make sure u catch it or noone does. It was either out of bounds or a bad throw by ponder for a pick. He is the best Qb we have u have to play ur best players….being said why don’t we play jarius wright. Bet he is the second best receiver on this team behind harvin.

  386. By fiesta sutton on Nov 6, 2012 | Reply

    You can certainly see your enthusiasm in the paintings you write. The sector hopes for even more passionate writers such as you who are not afraid to say how they believe. At all times go after your heart.

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