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Expect Rotation With Schwartz To Continue

Posted by Mike Wobschall on October 16, 2012 – 9:40 am

When the Vikings signed Geoff Schwartz this past offseason, the thinking was he could perhaps compete for a starting position at right guard while also providing depth on each side of the offensive line as a swing tackle. An injury slowed his progression during training camp, though, so the Vikings didn’t get a great look at the free agent signing before the season started.

With the season in full swing now, though, the Vikings are starting to take a closer look at the reserve lineman. They rotated Schwartz into Sunday’s game at Washington, inserting him into the lineup at right guard for several snaps.

“We wanted to be able to take a look at Geoff (Schwartz) yesterday and get him some game action,” Vikings Head Coach Leslie Frazier said on Monday. “Yesterday allowed us to do that, and we want to be able to do it periodically. We felt like that was a good game to do it and it worked out pretty good to get him, I think he had about 11 snaps, so we got some good game-action tape that we couldn’t get in the preseason to evaluate him and we’ll see where it goes from there.”

So, how did Schwartz do in his first extended regular season action as a Viking?

“In those plays, I thought he did a good job, good enough to where we feel comfortable if something were to happen, we could get him in there,” Frazier said. “But there are some other things we want to be able to see from him, but we’ll continue to evaluate him as we go forward.”

Frazier stopped short of saying the right guard competition was suddenly open for competition. Brandon Fusco is the starter there, and the second-year player out of Slippery Rock is playing well so far. More than illustrating displeasure in Fusco’s performance or trying to shake things up along the offensive line, the Vikings goal in rotating Schwartz in seems to be exactly what Frazier stated – just to get a look at a player who hasn’t seen much action on the offensive line since signing in Minnesota.

Frazier intimated the Vikings may continue to rotate Schwartz in during games, though he didn’t say if it’d be at right guard or a different position.

Schwartz measures in at 6-6, 340 pounds and is in his 5th season out of the University of Oregon. He was a 7th-round pick of the Carolina Panthers in 2008 and played in 32 games with 19 starts. He missed all of last season with an injury. Schwartz’ young brother, Mitchell, was a 2nd-round pick of the Cleveland Browns last April.


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141 Responses to “Expect Rotation With Schwartz To Continue”

  1. By BlueBird7 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    You have to try on a new pair of shoes, before you buy them.

  2. By BlueBird7 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Or play them, in this case.

  3. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    autobon: “It is clear to all (most) that Ponder is not playing up to par.”
    We are 4-2, with a 2nd year QB in his 1st full year. Whats the problem? Did Ponder allow Andrew Luck to drive down for the game winning FG? Did Ponder give up a 76 yd run to RGIII?
    Webb has NEVER shown up to a game in which the other team has had a full week to prepare for him. Ponder is 4-2 this season. Ponder HAS shown up in games in which the other team has had a full week to game-plan against him.
    As I’ve said, Webb needs to be on the field, but not at quarterback.

  4. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    We should have Matt Kalil as an eligible reciever in the redzone. Shake up the playcalling in that area

  5. By BlueBird7 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    GrandDaddyPurp

    We have yet to see if that brand new pair of shoes fits Ponder..

  6. By DeerTracks on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    @GrandDaddyBurp, I guess you haven’t seen Webb play, crawl out from under that big rock and watch him next time he plays QB.

  7. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    He seemed to fit the shoes fine against the 49ers. Are we dismissing that already?

  8. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    DeerTracks- I would like to see him play well in a game that he doesn’t come in mid game after the other team had a full week of preparation for an entirely different QB.

  9. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    DeerTracks- I guess you havent seen Ponder play after the opposition’s full week’s preparation for him. Take your eye off of Webb sitting on the sideline the entire game and watch our franchise QB for once.

  10. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Why dont we just petition for Tebow to start over Sanchez? How about Colin Kaepernick over Alex Smith?

    Are we to assume that because someone is a better athlete it automatically makes him the better quarterback? Insanity much?

  11. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Oh I Forgot Ol’ GrandDaddyPurp dont know nothin bout the game of football.

  12. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    C’mon people lets talk FOOTBALL

  13. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    VIKINGS FOOTBALL

  14. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Oh yeah I’m still waiting for someone to PAY PERCY!

  15. By iaVIKE on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Laughable that this Ponder vs Webb nonsense is still brought up, and people are sayin Ponder is “not playing up to par” Whata joke
    Ponder is:
    9th in the NFL in P.a.sser Rating
    Has the same amount of INTs as A Rodgers, P Manning, A Smith, J Flacco, and M Schaub.
    Has LESS INTs than: E Manning, M Ryan, D Brees, J Cutler, P Rivers, A Dalton, M Stafford, T Romo.
    Tied for 11th in TD p.a.sses
    Tied for 16th in passing yards

    Yah for him being in his second year he’s “not playing up to par”……..DUMB

  16. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Looks like I picked the wrong day to hit the blogs

  17. By adrian peterson & percy Harvin fan on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    I think that the vikings need more than that to look at.. they are not playing the best players at the positions they are playing the ones they are familiar with… but check this out

    Jarius wright start over Burton
    Everson Griffen start over Brian Robinson
    Jamarca Sanford start over Mistral Raymond
    Last but not least
    Rhette Ellison over Carlson

  18. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    iaVIKE- I try to find a reason to stay on these blogs but some of these people just keep giving me reasons not to. I’m breaking the silence though. Its about time we educate these people on the game of FOOTBALL

  19. By iaVIKE on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Agreed GDP, if a QB isn’t the MVP of the league by their second year fans are calling for his replacement…maybe it’s just Vikes fans i dunno, but it’s bullsh1t either way. Those stats are without a legit “deep threat” also….

  20. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    I like Everson being rotated in.
    Jarius Wright, I hope the coaches seeing something we are not is the reason he isnt seeing any snaps because its just not working out with any of our receivers not named Percy.
    Jamarca is a playmaker. He is tied for the league lead in forced fumbles.
    Rudolph and Ellison cannot be happy knowing Carlson is making more money than both of them combined.

  21. By realvikings on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    If i was the jets coach i would start Tebow over Sanchez in a heartbeat at least he has heart and fights to win. Let me guess you probably would be happy if Ponder starts playing like Sanchez that guy stinks I’ll take Alex Smith but not Sanchez.

  22. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    realvikings You took that too literal

  23. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    If it were up to me I would trade Webb for Tebow just to reunite what probably was the best College duo in Tebow and Percy. I still however would start Ponder.

  24. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    I have concern for this game Sunday.

  25. By Kevin on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is the future of Vikes. You dont help him by sitting him out. The coaches KNOW what they have in Webb. IMO, at the end of this year, there will be no more talk of Web in for Ponder.

  26. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Its at home so I expect us to win.

  27. By iaVIKE on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    I wish that were true Kevin, but unfortunetly there will still be fans wanting to replace Ponder with Webb. I agree that Webb should be on the field, but not as QB.

  28. By GrandDaddyPurp on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    I would like to see Webb succeed so I say trade him to the Patriots where Belichik will utilize his talent.

  29. By realvikings on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Looking forward to the draft i say our biggest need right now after a new OC is a receiver Ponder could use a new toy to open things up next season. To fix our red zone issues I say we throw it up for Kyle when we get their the guy is 6″6 and he’s a beast in the red zone, Ponder has thrown 8 touchdowns and Kyle has 5 of them with the defense around him. Throw it as high as the crossbar where only he can go get it.

  30. By Immure on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder has been play very well this season and he will continue to get better as the season goes on. Get him some more weapons next year.

  31. By tomcat on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Has anyone noticed all of our running plays go to the A gap and occasionally the B? You`d think a few outside might spring A.P. Really, check it out next game.

  32. By adrian peterson & percy Harvin fan on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    We have the best Running back in the game,
    The best all purpose player & top 5 reciever in my eyes
    A top 5 tight end
    So why not play like it… use them wiseley.. giving them the ball will make us win everytime… run with peterson and harvin, throw td’s to rudolph. Throw slants to percy.. and we will be succesful.. but I know next year we may be the best team in the leauge if we draft a 1st round Wide reciever.. and n the 2nd round draft either a Lb or Cb.

  33. By iaVIKE on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    AP & PH fan – That’s exaclty what Ponder has been doing so far this year, getting it to his playmakers AP,Percy and Rudy, but still there’s the people sayin “why isn’t he throwin it deep??” “Why don’t we have any big plays downfield??” Cause our playmakers are those three! Hopefully Simpson can be our deep threat when he’s healthy.

  34. By realvikings on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    I’ve noticed the same thing. I thought it would be different since we got Kahlil out their now but i don’t know why were not ruining to the outside its just one of Musgraves other predictable plays.

  35. By JDawg on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    If we had scored at least one or two more touchdowns instead of field goals earlier in the game, AP would have broken 100 yards rushing easily. The 2nd half (especially the 4th quarter) was all about the pass to try and catch up.

    There seemed to be a lack of aggression on defense (scared of the big play). RGIII dictated our defense instead of our defense dictating what RGIII can do.

    Our offense seemed to have a killer instinct in the first three drives of the game UNTIL we got close to the end zone.

  36. By sandiamond on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    I have seen every excuse under the sun for last sunday’s game.
    Cold hard fact is this team got SMOKED!

    There was no “comeback” as the score indicates, just late nfl trash touchdowns
    Coaches prepared poorly for this game focusing on the wrong offensive rookie. Thought they could snag a win and fly out of town within 24 hrs like they did in DET

    Back to the grind and some home cooking……… Skol!

  37. By sandiamond on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    By sandiamond on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    2012 rookie wide receivers rounds 3-5

    J Adams Car 3 games 3 fumbles KR
    T Benjamin Cle 4 games 5 rec
    D Coale Dal 0 games
    G Childs Min IR
    J Criner Arz 3 games 2 rec
    TJ Graham Buf 5 games 11 rec
    C Givens Rams IR
    TY Hilton Ind 4 games 11 rec
    M Jones Cin 4 games 3 rec
    K Martin Hou 6 games 6 rec
    D Posey Hou 3 games 0 rec
    M Sanu Cin 4 games 0 rec 1 td pass
    N Toon NO ps
    J Wright Min 0 games
    D Wylie KC 1 game 0 rec

    wobs says give it time hes a fourth-rounder. Well look at the stats! Most would think a sense of urgency after losing Childs to get Wright on the field before now?

  38. By Rod on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    2 tightend sets and send percy deep. We have the tightends to make that happen. Why don’t we try percy down the field? Ponder was overthrowing a lot on Sunday so Percy deep would have been a good fix. lol

  39. By H.M.G. on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Why not try Schwartz at LG. Johnson blows. While Fusco has been doing great at RG.

  40. By Parkway on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    No Kolb this weekend let’s see a nice blowout win 38-7

  41. By jrich on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Is jarius wright still injured or is it a coaches decision?

  42. By adrian peterson & percy Harvin fan on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    I wana see a blowout also… Here are the things I wana see from this game

    SACKS
    Jared allen 3sacks 1 forced fumble
    Everson griffen 2sacks
    Letroy guyion 1sack

    Interceptions
    Chris cook 1
    Josh robinson 1
    Harrison smith 2

    Forced fumble
    Jamarca sanford 1

    Fumble recovery
    Harrison smith

    Pass Deflections
    Harrison smith 2
    Jamarca sandford 1
    Josh robinson 3
    Antoin winfield 2
    Everson griffen 1

    Tackles
    Chad greenway 17 3for losses
    Harrison smith 9tackles 1tfl
    Josh robinson 7tackles 2tfl
    Erin henderon 11tackles 2tfl
    Antoine winfield 12tackles 4fl
    Jasper brinkley 9tackles 1tfl

  43. By adrian peterson & percy Harvin fan on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Adrian peterson will run for 179 yards and 3tds

    Christian ponder. Will throw for 379 yard and 6 tds

    Rudolph will catch 2tds
    Jerome simpson will catch 1 td
    Percy will catch 2tds
    Rhette ellison will catch 1td

  44. By Muskyfever on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    We do send Percy deep.. Quite a few times ni fact over the course of the year. But he ALWAYS has double or triple coverage. Opposing D’s can do tripple coverage on Percy cause no one else can get seperation with even 1 on 1s. Trust me, watch the next game. everytime Harvin gets passed the 20yrd down field mark there are 2 to 3 other guys surrounding him.. That spells INT’s from ponder if he trys to throw it.

    I also am confused why Wright hasn’t played more. But clearly non of us understand so there is a reason for it. They are just not going to tell anyone. I also like Burton, Don’t know why he is not getting chances either.

    The O line has been playing pretty good this year, maybe last game was a little bad but that was the only one. I like how they are jamming together right now and Don’t want to change anything.

    I like Sanford starting over Mistral Raymond. Not because I think he is better, but because he and Smith seem to be vibing together on the field. They seem to know where eachother is most of the time (some faulters in last game) but both are still young players and in my opinion playing great football right now

  45. By Alex on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    I’ve said it before it’s better for Wright to develop and learn the offense before coming in and playing. He is a rookie right now, he’ll get playing time but the coach’s are trying to take it slow with him. Rookie Wrs typically don’t do much when they play in games anyways unless they’re elite guys. Wright was a 4th round pick give him some time, the coaches do know what they’re doing. Wright will likely play in a game before the year is up.

  46. By Muskyfever on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Adrian and Percy Fan….LOL! I like where your heads at, thinking BIG!!!

    Never going to happen though. 9 TD’s x 7 = 63 points scored. LOL, I’ll be shoked if we score more then 35 which is 5TD’s

  47. By TheRealDon on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Why is it the coaches open up the playbook only when were down..

  48. By TheRealDon on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    oh and Me and Mike Wobschall are not on good terms..He never lets my post go through on the live game post

  49. By Muskyfever on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    @ TheRealDon –

    I ask myself the same question, why do our plays get batter as we start losing worse and worse. It’s like all of the sudden we have these great creative plays that work and we score. If we do that in the beginning we would put games away before they start…

  50. By DeerTracks on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    GrandDaddy@

    I think Ponders’ shoes fit to tight and the Red Demons came and fixed them.

    Lets hope Musgrave can think of a pass play that does not get Ponder mashed.

    Just in case, have Joe ready to hit the trail on the way to a TD.

  51. By VikesShield on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    56-0 im still believing that..i dont feel like telling you who gets the tds i already said it but ya.

  52. By Parkway on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    @vikesshield: We don’t have the OC for that. If we were up 28-0 we would just get ULTRA conservative and go 3 and out each time we had the ball until they make a come back and make the game close.

  53. By BlueBird7 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Amen to that, Parkway, Amen. I have yet to see Frazier and/or Musgrave go for the kill. I guess they just don’t want to hurt the other team’s feelings.

  54. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Why is everyone happy Kolb is out ???…

    Skeleton is the better QB…And he will be playing Sunday…

    Kolb wasn’t winning football games for the Cardinals ealier this season…The Cardinals defense did…

    Skeleton is much more dangerous than Kolb in the passing game…The Cardinals have no running game…

    The Vikings defense better go after Skeleton hard…Because that young man can sling the football around…

    Cards O-line has given up 27 sacks so far this season…

    Viking fans better hope our defense adds at least 6 more to that total…Because I see the Cardinals throwing 50+ pass attempts this coming Sunday…

  55. By DeerTracks on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    @ Muskyfever

    Are you one of those “idiots” you speak of? Webb played more then one game last year. Pulled out some of Ponders Chestnuts out of the fire.

    Yes, I know Ponder is the chosen one to lead us out of the wilderness..

    I will root for him to do just that. When he fails, then bring in Webb or anybody esle in to do something to lead the Vikings back on the right path!

    Muskyfever..Is it eating away on your brain?

  56. By VikesShield on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    ok fine ill put one pick 6 back. 49-0

  57. By VikesShield on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    WEBB SUCKS AT QB END OF DISSCUSION. NO WHINING DEER TRACKS. PONDER IS BETTER THEN JOE WEBB SO SHUTUP AND DONT GET YOUR PANTIES UP IN A BUNCH

  58. By realvikings on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    The cardinals have a great defense that can win games for their offense so Musgrave better have a good game plan or its gonna be a three and out day for our offense. The cardinals defense will be a good test for our offense to see how we bounce back from a bad game.

  59. By VikesShield on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    the skelton is not that good hes gonna probably gonna throw over 3 interceptions

  60. By VikesShield on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    i ment john skelton

  61. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Fitz has been waiting to get Skelton back…

    Skelton won the starting job in preseason…The reason he sat out early this season…Was because of injury…

    Skelton has a very strong arm…We better get some ints and sacks this Sunday…

    Because, all the Cards will be doing…Is throw the football…

  62. By MuskyFever on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    I guess my posts were too offensive and thus removed… My point still stands

  63. By MuskyFever on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Nevermind, on a different blog thread. Conversation over, it’s like beating a dead Deer.. ;-)

  64. By realvikings on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Joe Webb does not suck the guy has yet to be given a chance and in the few games that he came in he looked ok to me. If he was so sick i font think he would still be on the roster as a backup qb when he can play another position, i think Joe is the fall back guy if Ponder doesn’t work out.

  65. By Alex on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Skelton is inaccurate but can throw far and if our defensive line plays to their abilities they will eat him alive. The cards have one of the worst offensive lines in the nfl. A few hard hits during throws and a couple of sacks and we should see our defensive backs get a few picks.

    Personally I think Kolb is the better all around QB of the two but that’s my opinion.

  66. By realvikings on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Skeleton should not be making any of us Vikings fans lose sleep what has he done other then beat Kolb who isn’t good himself. I think we will win this game as long as we keep Fitzgerald in check and pressure Skeleton.

  67. By NFL on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Arizona has a tough defense, that’s it. If the Vikings lose to these guys the honeymoon’s over.

  68. By Spencer on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Fitzgerald vs Cook

    Part III

    The Final Chapter??

  69. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer give it up. Romney schools Obama once again.

  70. By Spencer on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Obama looked very strong in the foreign policy exchange.

  71. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    HA HA HA– Obama struggled mightily all night, He is flubbing all night– just said– some jobs won’t come back– low skilled, low paying, I want high skilled, high paid jobs like manufacturing (HA HA HA )– then he realized his flub– then added quickly, advanced manufacturing. Obama will lose in November— no doubt,

  72. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    HA HA HA == now Obama says he believes in self-reliance, individual initiative, etc– is he Republican?

  73. By Parkway on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    We shall await the false flags

  74. By VikesShield on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    romney is a d.o.u.c.h.e..

  75. By VikesShield on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    hahaha atleast no matter what. north dakota will still have the most hriring jobs. so i dont need to worry about jobs

  76. By shawn6464 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Only an imbecile would say Romney won tonight

    Obama kicked his arse ….

  77. By shawn6464 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Of course conservatives will blame everything under the sun including the moderator and the “biased liberal media” for their absolutely horrendous and middle class destroying policies

    trickle down has destroyed the middle class and everyone who doesnt watch FOX knows it

  78. By shawn6464 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    There a reason Santorum told an audience “we will never have the smart people on our side”

  79. By shawn6464 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

  80. By Spencer on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn is in the building!

  81. By shawn6464 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    I couldnt let the people allow Titus to misinform them of reality. Because thats the problem uneducated just taking someones word for it.

    Fact …. Educated and traveled people are more likely to be Liberal.

    Key word … EDUCATED

    Now there are a greedy sector of educated people who have infiltrated our government and also created FOX not really news to sell the ideas that hurt the people that vote for p’ed on economics

    but even those educated know trickle down is BS

  82. By missed the boat on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    bench ponder for a game, he can’t handle the job

  83. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Typical liberal– blame others. Take responsibility for yourself. I do not want government as my god–

  84. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn is soooooooo brainwashed.

  85. By Spencer on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    *Grabs Popcorn*

  86. By shawn6464 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    LOL Spencer …

  87. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    To say I am uneducated is like saying elephants are indigenous to the arctic.

  88. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Get a big gulp Spencer so you don’t choke.

  89. By shawn6464 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    BSAS … Where did I blame others? You know that the middle class has been decimated since Reagan started the trickle down BS. You know the middle class has been decimated since the Republicans started their assault on Unions …

    Those are facts the only question is will you deny the facts or acknowledge the truth?

  90. By shawn6464 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Sure wish I could post the charts here ….

    As Unions go so does the middle class at the exact same rate.

  91. By shawn6464 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Since 1980 …

    Middle class income grows on average 23%

    The top 1% income grew 261% …. hmm where are the jobs? “job creators”

  92. By shawn6464 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Heck if the Unions were still strong the people wouldnt need health insurance but republicans have taken everything from us since Reagan … Now without Unions these Corporations have all time profits and still wont give the people HeathCare

    These Corporations will file for Bankruptcy right before their workforce retires so as not to pay anyone retirement

    Corporate greed is destroying our Country … not sick and hungry people

  93. By shawn6464 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Since 1980 …

    Middle class income grows on average 23%

    The top 1% income grew 261% …. hmm where are the jobs? hmm seems the “trickle” is broke

  94. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Rich get richer? Of course. Duh! NEWSFL:ASH– I do not have a problem with rich people– let them prosper. It is my future. I am not angry with them. When I am doing well, I will get richer. Anyone can become rich– do NOT tear down the system and create a uniform set of drones under the umbrella of a god called government. Man, you are brainwashed Shawn. I was once like you, so I know how brainwashed you are.

  95. By shawn6464 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    “Freeloaders think they are entitled to food? Do they think food grows on trees?”-Stephen Colbert

  96. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    You say exactly what they tell you– Bee Bop, rich get richer, should not be. Bee Bop– vote for me, I will provide programs for you and take from the rich. Making money and being productive and creative is very wrong. BEE BOP.

  97. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Driving nice cars means you do not care– very bad to drive nice car. Bee Bop.

  98. By shawn6464 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    LOL no you cant … youre either born in it or youre not. Generally speaking.

    “The reason they call it the American Dream, is because you have to be asleep to believe it”- George Carlin

    So Titus what was wrong with the rich getting richer at 100% rather than 261%

    and why do the rich need everything? why do they manipulate the system to eliminate the middle class? Vacuum up economics is what it is … nothing trickled down

  99. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Rich get richer. Makes no sense. Must be greed. Money in the pocket equates greed. Can see into intentions and heart of men! Bad! Vote for me– I have millions but tell you millionaires are evil. Repeat the mantra. Bee Bop.

  100. By shawn6464 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    nobody said the rich should not get richer … you are making shyte up

    Look at the chart there was a time when everyone including the rich got richer … but since reagan and trickle down … ONLY THE RICH GET RICHER

  101. By shawn6464 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    BSAS … you are not even thinking or listening.

    The rich should get richer … but so should everyone else. The rich shouldnt get everything and say “o i dropped a crumb, you may eat that”

  102. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    I have gotten richer. Don’t believe statistics Shawn– they are malleable to serve agendas. The principles of financial literacy and the vehicles toward wealth are the same every year. I guarantee you– if you follow the principles and stop hating, you would be rich in time. In 10-20 years you could be a millionaire. But instead you want to cry injustice. Educate yourself.

  103. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    MAN — SHAWN– your last post speaks volumes to where you miss it.

    IT IS ABOUT PRINCIPLES!!! Stop looking for crumbs and sit at the table, ARISE AND WALK.

  104. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn, it is you who do not listen. I was EXACTLY LIKE YOU. Exactly the same dogma came out of my mouth. Have you been where I am now? I know exactly where you are coming from– I also was brainwashed like you.

  105. By shawn6464 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    BSAS … The poverty rate is exploding and BTW Obama has kept the Bush tax cuts so you cant blame him. It has been growing since Reagan.

    What can be blamed is Pi$$ed on economics … or lets call it what it really is, Vacuum up economics

  106. By shawn6464 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

  107. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn refuses to listen or understand– this is pointless. Not about government– about you. Stand up– what is your 10 year plan? Stop waiting on politicians– the system is ripe with opportunities– don’t listen to liberal politicians who tell you how bad it is– they do that to get your vote. WAKE UP!!!!

  108. By shawn6464 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    LOL Conservatives dont shut up about how bad it is … I see homeless every single day. Nevada has the highest Unemployment rate and one of the highest foreclosure rates.

    If you look at that chart from 49-70 were the biggest Union years and middle class families could have 1 parent at home and one working, they could have healthcare, and a nice retirement

    then from 1980 on the rich started selling the public on how bad Unions were and now middle class has to have both parents working … that is if the parents can survive the financial stress involved in todays economic p’ed on plan… they dont get healthcare and retirement is starting to make a slight comeback with 401ks but still its not what it used to be

    now if those parents stay together they both have to work … and of course without unions there is no overtime pay … now you go in on the weekend for a pat on the back and the oppotunity to keep your job until you say NO IM NOT coming in this weekend

    BSAS the rich are taking everything from the people … it used to be the richest 20% but now its the richest 1%

    it truly is vacuum up economics

  109. By shawn6464 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer … Did you enjoy the show?

  110. By BE SANE AND SERIOUS on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn– you don’t blame the rich? You don’t live with the mantra– rich get richer and poor get poorer? Of course you do– same song and dance over and over– every one of your posts is the same. You do not listen to one word I said. Great debater– are you running for office? I don’t care if there is a vacuum. I do not care — you are not listening. The principles to become wealthy are in place– take hold of them and become rich. It is available to all–

  111. By Parkway on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

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  112. By shawn6464 on Oct 16, 2012 | Reply

    No it is not. In fact its even harder today than it was when Middle class families could afford to send kids to school.

    its a 100 yard dash and people like Romney start on the 50 yard line … Pretty easy to win when youre almost at the finish from the start

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  115. By ozzinator on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

    I would have to say that Titus won this debate!
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  116. By ozzinator on Oct 17, 2012 | Reply

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