9 Vikings-Redskins Storylines To Watch

Posted by Mike Wobschall on October 10, 2012 – 6:18 am

It’s Wednesday, and in the NFL you know what that means. The calendar flips from digesting last week’s win to previewing this week’s matchup. For the Vikings, that means preparing for the Washington Redskins. The Vikings will travel to the Beltway this weekend, marking their third trip to the Nation’s Capital in as many years.

This Vikings-Redskins matchup has several intriguing subplots, so we’ll get you started by briefly discussing nine of them right here…

RG3’s Status Unclear After Week 5 Concussion
This now marks the third consecutive week a team scheduled to play the Vikings begins its week of preparation not knowing if their starting QB will be available on Sunday. Redskins QB Robert Griffin III, selected by Washington with the 2nd overall pick last April, took a nasty hit from Falcons LB Sean Weatherspoon mid-way through the 3rd quarter last week that left the talented passer with a concussion. Per the NFL’s concussion protocol, doctors ruled Griffin III out for the remainder of the game, and now he’s required to undergo and pass a series of tests before he’s allowed to practice or play.

This is obviously a significant factor for both teams because Griffin III is the Redskins most dynamic offensive weapon. He’s the League’s 5th-highest rated passer (101.0) and ranks #1 in completion percentage (69.1%). Griffin III also has 8 total TDs – 4 passing and 4 rushing – and averages 5.7 yards per rush on 42 carries.

Since the injury, Washington has not released any information that lends an idea as to whether Griffin III will be ready to suit up on Sunday. The next indication of the rookie’s status will come Wednesday afternoon when the Redskins are required to submit their initial injury report of the week. If Griffin III is unable to play, the Redskins will turn to either rookie Kirk Cousins or veteran Rex Grossman.

Can Redskins Contain MVP Candidate Percy Harvin?
Yes, I said it. Percy Harvin is an MVP candidate – in my eyes anyway. He doesn’t play QB and he’s not leading the NFL in points or TDs. But can you name a player who produces as much and in as many ways as Harvin does for the Vikings? Harvin leads the NFL in total yardage (814) and yards after catch (242), he’s 2nd in receptions (38), and he’s just the 3rd player in NFL history – joining Gale Sayers and Timmy Brown – with a rushing, receiving and kick return TD in 3 consecutive seasons.

But this headline to watch is not an MVP campaign for Harvin. It’s to point out that, in order increase their chances of winning, the Redskins are going to have to find a way to contain Harvin. The Lions were able to do it, as Harvin had just 6 offensive touches for 34 yards. But the Titans, just one week later, were not able to duplicate it last week, as Harvin exploded for 116 yards and 2 TDs (1 rushing, 1 receiving) on 10 offensive touches.

How Serious is Jerome Simpson’s Injury?
Vikings Head Coach Leslie Frazier explained the injury situation surrounding Jerome Simpson on Monday during his customary day-after-the-game press conference. While Frazier’s discussion of the situation provided some clarity on what happened over the course of last Sunday, the discussion did not provide clarity on Simpson’s status for this Sunday. In fairness, much was still to be learned even for the Vikings as of Monday, as Simpson was scheduled to undergo more tests.

So as the Vikings begin on-field preparations for the Redskins on Wednesday, there seems to be more ambiguity than clarity on Simpson’s status. Perhaps Frazier will clear the air after the team’s morning walk-thru on Wednesday. Or maybe not. That’s why it’s a storyline to watch this week.

Adrian Peterson, Alfred Morris Pace Powerful Ground Attacks
One of the storylines to watch we identified in last week’s Vikings-Titans matchup was that of the pending showdown between Adrian Peterson and Chris Johnson, two of the most explosive and productive running backs of the past 5 seasons or so. As Johnson continues to labor through a second consecutive substandard season, including just 24 yards on 15 carries against the Vikings, it turns out that a better RB vs. RB matchup will unfold in Washington D.C. this Sunday.

We know who the Vikings have in their corner. Peterson says he’s still a touch shy of being 100% back to form, but he looks to be the same explosive, powerful and shifty playmaker he’s been for the Vikings since 2007. But it appears the Redskins have a star-in-the-making at RB as well in rookie Alfred Morris. Credit Redskins Head Coach Mike Shanahan for once again finding a diamond-in-the-rough runner in the late rounds of the draft. Morris, a 6th-round pick out of Florida Atlantic this year, ranks 2nd in the NFC and 4th in the NFL with 491 rushing yards, has topped 100 yards rushing in each of the last two weeks and averages an impressive 4.9 yards per carry for the season.

Expect the Vikings to make stopping Morris in his tracks their top priority on defense this week.

Can Vikings Find Continued Success With Defensive Line Rotation?
In somewhat tongue-in-cheek fashion but also with a fair amount of sincerity, Vikings Defensive Coordinator Alan Williams compared his plan for a defensive line rotation to the liberal substitution patterns of hockey teams, where 3-4 players may come off the ice simultaneously to be replaced by players with fresh legs. It caused some consternation at the time, with the worry being that the Vikings best defensive linemen would be off the field at important times.

As it turns out, though, Williams’ strategy is working. The rotation has produced results, from starters as well as reserves. Yes, non-starters such as Christian Ballard, Fred Evans and Everson Griffen are playing more and are producing. But the Vikings four starters along the line are playing well, too. Jared Allen ranks tied for 1st on the team in sacks with Griffen and tied for 2nd on the team in tackles for loss with three others; Kevin Williams has a TFL, fumble recovery, 8 QB hits and 3 pass break-ups (PBUs); Letroy Guion has 2.0 sacks and 3.0 TFLs. The list goes on. And so will the rotation strategy. The question is: Will it continue to work this week against the Redskins?

Josh Robinson Earning More Playing Time
The record from last week’s win over the Tennessee Titans will show that Josh Robinson was a starter at CB for the Vikings along with Chris Cook. Are the Vikings phasing out CB Antoine Winfield? No, Winfield is actually in the midst of a productive season. The 14-year veteran is 2nd on the team in tackles with 41, he has 4.0 TFLs, 6 PBUs and 1 INT. Winfield is playing well and will remain a key part of the defense this season. But Robinson will, too. The 3rd-round rookie is proving to Vikings coaches and scouts that he belongs on the field.

The 5-10, 199-pound CB has 28 tackles on the season, including 15 in the last two games. Robinson also has 5 PBUs already – only 4 Vikings had that many PBUs all of last season. The Vikings pass defense is much improved from a season ago – they’ve improved 13 spots in passing yards allowed and 20 spots in passer rating allowed – and Robinson is a big reason for the improvement.

Don’t be surprised if he’s in the starting lineup again in Washington, and don’t be surprised if he continues to make a profound impact for the Vikings secondary.

The Vikings and Redskins Becoming Quite Familiar Foes
Sunday’s meeting between the Vikings and Redskins will mark their third in as many seasons during the regular season. It’s also interesting to note that these two organizations worked together at this year’s Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama. Leslie Frazier and his staff coached the North squad against a South squad that featured Shanahan and the Redskins staff.

Furthermore, Vikings Offensive Coordinator Bill Musgrave once coached for the Redskins (1995) and he played under Shanahan in San Francisco and Denver. Also, Redskins DBs coach Raheem Morris coached with Vikings DBs coach Joe Woods from 2004-05 in Tampa Bay.

The familiarity extends to the players as well. A pair of Redskins DBs – CB Cedric Griffin and S Madieu Williams – spent time with the Vikings. Griffin was a 2nd-round pick of the Vikings in 2006 and played 80 games (70 starts) in 6 seasons. Williams played for the Vikings from 2008-10 and appeared in 39 games (38 starts). Vikings WR Devin Aromashodu spent the majority of the 2008 season on the Redskins practice squad.

Kicking Highs and Lows
The Vikings and Redskins are going through opposite experiences with their situation at kicker. The Vikings selected theirs with a 6th-round pick last April and he’s come through in a huge way, converting 12 of 13 FGs (3 of 3 from 50+ yards) and blasting 17 touchbacks in 27 kickoffs (Vikings had 19 touchbacks all of last year). The Redskins, on the other hand, just released their kicker – Billy Cundiff – after he went 7 of 12 on FGs to being the season. To replace Cundiff, the Redskins signed Kai Forbath on Tuesday. Forbath entered the NFL as an undrafted college free agent out of UCLA and spent time with Dallas and Tampa Bay before joining Washington.

One thing to keep in mind on this topic: this will be Walsh’s first regular season game kicking outdoors. The Vikings have played three games inside the friendly confines of Mall of America Field, and their two road games have been indoors as well – at Indianapolis’ Lucas Oil Stadium and Detroit’s Ford Field.

Adrian Peterson Returns to Site of Knee Injury
This is a storyline that has no real practical implications on the Vikings-Redskins matchup, but I’m not sure that anyone close to Adrian Peterson or anyone who was watching these teams play last year can avoid thinking about it. The last time we saw Peterson at FedEx Field, he was writhing in pain on the playing surface like a wounded animal after a Redskins defender crashed into and severely injured his left knee.

The injury happened on Christmas Eve. Just over 8 months later, Peterson opened the 2012 regular season in the Vikings starting lineup, capping a remarkable rehabilitation that began immediately after the injury and wouldn’t have been possible without Peterson’s unmatched determination to improve and tremendous support from the Vikings medical staff. And 9 months later, Peterson is set to return to FedEx Field in an attempt to help his team record its 5th win on the young season.

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79 Responses to “9 Vikings-Redskins Storylines To Watch”

  1. By BlueBird7 on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t think the RedSkins are foolish enough to try to take out Peterson again.

  2. By BlueBird7 on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Can the Redskins contain Percy Harvin? Answer: No, not if Percy keeps playing at his top level performance, like he has been.

  3. By vikingstruefan4life on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    My prediction is that our defense will send a lot of blitzes on RG3.

    Offensive prodictions
    A.P. is going to run with anger because of what happend last year.. so I prediction he will have 144 yards on 28 carries and 2tds

    Christian Ponder will throw for 394 yard and 3 tds and no interception
    Percy harvin will have 13 catches for 167 yards and 2tds
    Jerome simpson wil have 6 receptions for 103 yards

    Defensive predictions
    Jared allen will have 7tackles 3tackles for loss and 2.5sacks
    Josh robinson will have 9 tackles and 1 interception with 2 pass break ups
    Harrison smith will have 11 tackles and 1 forced fumble or interception
    Everson griffen will have 2sacks

  4. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Defend your own !!…Vikings defense…

    There are certain head coaches (Shanahan being one of them) around the league…That have no problem instructing their defense to take extra shots after plays…etc…

    To teams that have a “history” of not retaliating from being bullied…

    The Vikings have that kind of history…This needs to change !!…

    PROTECT your own Vikings…

    Always play fair when possible…But when the other team wants to start changing the rules…Lay the wood to them…
    nuff said…

  5. By vikingfanforlife on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Did the Skin’s cheapshot A.P. I hope not. But we Viking fans will be watching closely. Get it done Vikes.

  6. By JE on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    The biggest thing for us is AP has recovered and looks great! His hard work and determination have been an inspiration to all of his teamates and fans all across the country. Way to go Adrian, you are a true professional and i am proud to say you are a Minnesota Viking!!!

  7. By Mike B. on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    The key this year has been to get the early lead and hold onto it. No reason to change that plan now.

  8. By Muskyfever on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    I think Harvin should win the MVP, no other player in the NFL has made as much of an impact as Harvin has for us. PAY THE MAN!

    Also I think our stout run D can stop their talanted rookie RB. I think our young team is much more driven and talanted then their young team, even if RGIII is a beast. I think their biggest threat is going to be RGIII rushing on the ground. I think you have to keep a linebacker in QB spy mode A-L-L D-A-Y L-O-N-G. If we can contain him and their new RB, I think this one is in the bag. RGIII is the most accurate passer in the League as it stands now… But with H. Smith coming back with a chip on his shoulder, I think he will light some people up!

    If we can get some exterior production out of our starters like Simpson (if he plays) or Aromashadu we should be able to take this to the house. The CB crew for the dead skins is not very good. Look at Cedric Griffen, the dude played great for us for two seasons and fell off the map after his injuries. I think Harvin and Simpson will be able to torch him for a big gain.

    We do need to see more from AP this week. A TD maybe, 100+ yrd game. All of those would be fine. I also wanna see Harvin continue to show that he is THE BEST player in the NFL… Cause he is. No picks for Ponder this week, I think our limited WR core is still better then their entire CB crew. I really think this game is going to come down to the D and how we can stop the run.

  9. By JE on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    The defensive line rotation is working great. This area of the team is by far where we have the most depth and rotating players allows all of them to stay fresh and hungry. Keep up the great work Allan Williams! You have really made a big change to our D and i for one am lovin it!!!

  10. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    I hope the coaching staff is pumping some noise into the dome this week…And having Ponder work on his silent count…

    Vikings are going into a hostile environment…And Ponder was having trouble communicating signals last time they dealt with crowd noise…

    Washington will be coming after the Vikings with an 8 man front…Crowding the line of scrimmage to stop AP and the short pa ssing game…And will have the crowd helping them out also…

    With Simpson questionable…And Frazier seeming to want Jenkins and Aromashudo to stay his WR’s ???…

    This is going to be an old fashioned “slubber knocker”…

    Vikings will need to find a way to stretch the field…And get the pa ssing game going to set up the run…

    While RG3 might be dinged up…Not sure the Skins D has much wrong with them…And fear here, a conservative game plan will make this game hard to win…

  11. By sandiamond on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    OTK, one option that might work to extend Simpson’s treatment time without procedures is IR – until the week 8 deadline to conclude rest of year required stay decisions for Injuried Reserve players. WR Chris Summers added to the roster now to temp replace Simpson

  12. By Muskyfever on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Teams are starting to figure out real quick that we are a nickle and dime Offense, one not likley to stretch the field 4 or 5 times in a game. If I was the dead skins I would stack the box too. Ponder is going to have to throw A LOT to get them to back off our front and let AP start to run it.

    This is a good team we are going against. We know what happens to teams that are not mentally tough going into a game (aka the fudgepackers last week). Need to stay sharp and play lights out

  13. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply


    Agree about Allen Williams…He is doing an AWESOME job !!!

    While the offense has lacked in creativity…Williams has done a great job having the secondary being where they are supposed to be…And stopping big plays…

    I mixing things up nicely for a young and learning defense…

    Our D line will be huge this week…Containing the Skins running game…And keeping RG3 contained, from getting outside the pocket, if he plays…

    Middle pressure stunts could raise plenty of problems for the Skins…

    Lets hope for a big game from K Will and Guion !!!…

  14. By Muskyfever on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    I know this sounds redundent, but we need to play two deep safties and a QB man spy all day long. They can have whatever they want underneath… Just don’t give up the long ball.

    Also the turnover battle is going to be KEY

  15. By sandiamond on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Minnesota is the current #2 TEAM in the NFC! win on sun combined with falcon loss and we take the top spot!! holy cow

    chic bye week, stay .5 behind

  16. By #1vikingsfan on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    I think the key to this game is contain RG3 bcuz if they score on us big points I dnt knw if we can can catch him up. We r not an explosive offense. Fun fact I knw is that we havent been un the button since the lost with colts. If redskins go 14-3 can we catch up?

  17. By H.M.G. on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Simpson is out at least 6 Weeks.
    Simpson needs surgery on a disc in his back.

  18. By H.M.G. on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    The Vikings will win whether or not RG3 plays. If he does it will be a close interesting game. If not blow out.
    But watch out for guys like Kerrigan and Orackpo. They love QB killing so protect Ponder.

  19. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply


    I tend to go the other way on defensive stratigy for this week…

    I think Cook and J Rob have been doing a good job so far this season in press coverages…And Winfield also playing at a high level…Let them play press coverage a little more…And bring some middle pressure from the LB’s and safties against the Skins…

    If that happens..It will be huge for Allen and Robison contain RG3 from escaping the pocket…And hold the edge…

    This defense of the Vikings playing well…And this fan has NO idea, what A Williams might have in store for this Sunday..

    The great thing is…I don’t think the Skins do either… ; )

  20. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Get well soon Jerome !!!…

    Spielman needs to find this “contending” team a decent young WR prospect to help us out…Make a trade Rick…

    Jenkins and Aromashudo are not getting the job done…

    Can Burton,Summers or ???? help…

  21. By vikingstruefan4life on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    If we don’t sign someone or active summers to the roster to replace simpson then the vikings are in trouble because I dnt think we have a gud enough passing game.. summer is a good option to take his spot

  22. By JE on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    I agree. The big question is… Can Chris Summers fill this spot in the lineup?? We may see more JWright in the slot and Harvin on the edge. Say what you want about DAroshmodu but i think he has played pretty well this season. Ponder seems comfortable with Devin in the lineup. Steven Burton is going to get his chance if Simp goes down. Looks like reciever by commitee to me.

  23. By OTKalil2012 on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Where is a link, saying Simpson is out at least 6 weeks ???…

    I can’t find any information at all on Simpson…

  24. By vikoloco on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    I hate to say it but if rg3 is playing it’s lights out for us! I have a feeling perty gets hurt and out for season.

  25. By vikoloco on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Summers is no bueno fumbles all the time.

  26. By JE on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Its not official that JSimpson is out yet. They will make the decision on wednesday. HMG,I think Orakpo is out for the season already. Torn pectorial if i remember correctly. Please chime in if i am wrong.

  27. By vikoloco on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    The story out there is simpson slipped at water park @ mall of america.

  28. By JE on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    OTKalil2012.,If yougo to sporting news web and go to nfl, click on teams,then vikings you will have a couple articles to read on JSimpson.

  29. By vikoloco on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply


  30. By megakrab on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    I completely agree about Aromashodu!! I think he’s been playing really well. Every time I’ve seen the ball go his way he makes a catch. I find myself yelling his name (in a good way) at least once a game and usually on a third down. If he got more looks I think he could hold down that spot until simpson returns.

  31. By megakrab on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    He has 9 catches for 138 yards and 8 of those catches were for first downs.

  32. By megakrab on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Obviously those arent huge numbers, but it seems like he catches the ball where and when he needs to.

  33. By Muskyfever on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply


    I see and understand some of your points but your negative attitude towards this game is making feel depressed…

    Harvin can’t get hurt, there is no way the world hates us that much… RGIII is good, but I personally don’t think he will be able to stop us. There D is pretty good, but missing a few starters, should be able to run against them.

    We have one of the best run D’s in the league, I don’t think RGIII will get very much on the ground, he will have to go up for his yards. I think our secondary is better then their Offense.

    We need a WR BAAADDD! Harvin is stuck doing everything by himself all over again, someone has to take the pressure off of him. Especially if Simpson is out for 6 weeks. Clearly he is becoming a bust and we need to move on and move on fast…

  34. By H.M.G. on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    ESPN has the new.
    Turn out that right now instead of surgery they will try some rehab. If that does not work then surgery.

  35. By sandiamond on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

  36. By sandiamond on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply


    Frazier said Jarius Wright, who has yet to be active, is healthy. Ankle not an issue anymore. “His time will come.”

  37. By sandiamond on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Kansas City Chiefs
    Bryan Mattison (C) signed.
    Neiko Thorpe (CB) cut.

    Thorpe was a workhorse S in the tough SEC West

  38. By RichardA1 on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Waiting for news! who will be our deep threat! hurt at waterpark? I heard he kicked 10 Titans ass’s the day before the game at a local bar. They cant burn out AP and Harvin, they need to dump the work load on somebody….somebody better stand out, step up and show some pride!

  39. By jason on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    defense just play smart and have a guy in the middle watching rg3 our offense will be good this week ap 120 yards rushing 1 touchdown mercy 110 yards recieving 1 touchdown and kyle 85 yards and 1 touchdown and walsh hitting two feild goals 27-14 vikes win.

  40. By Muskyfever on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    OK, All this stuff about simpson being out for a period of time is a whole lot of hear say. Just read something on NFL network that Simpson did not practice today as a precaution and neither did AP due to the slight ankle sprain.

    Simpson IS expected to play on Sunday at Washington… They need to make sure tomorrow with the medical staff, but all aspects point to he is fine and WILL play on Sunday

  41. By celticvikingwarrior on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Can someone PLEASE get a message to Rick Spielman to trade Jenkins to the Jets, Miami, ANYWHERE????????????????????

  42. By Muskyfever on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply


    For who??? there is no viable option out there that would take Jenkins over their current WR’s. Not saying Jenkins is bad (cause hes not)… But i can’t think of a team that would give us a better player then what we are trying to trade for

  43. By celticvikingwarrior on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    RG111 did practice today and will play Sunday, unless he gets slammed by one of his own between now and then, HIGHLY UNLIKELY!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It’s his passing, not his running we have to worry about….
    CORRECTION: obviously we have to worry about both, but it’s the passing game where he is the MOST dangerous, as we have one of the top rush defenses in the league so far this season…..and WILL be very well prepared to defend the run

  44. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Nine story lines and WOBBLES DID NOT GET THE ONE MAJOR STORY LINE OF THIS GAME?????????????

    Horrible journalism. Just atrocious.

  45. By John D on Oct 10, 2012 | Reply

    Last I heard Simpson will play Sunday, how effective-we’ll see. Hope he can put up at least decent numbers and draw some coverage to open up other passing options as well as helping pull the eighthman outa the box to get the running game started early. Its likely Was is come loaded tryn to stuff the run and get after Ponder. Tell you the truth, I think Ponder is doing well enough at this point to pick them apart if they do and AP is primed to set things straightn and have his best game this year. Wound love to see him rush for close to 200 yds. Sounds like alot, but I think with what they did to him last year not just AP’s play will be elevated this game as he is getting better each game anyway, I expect to see our guys blocking like crazy for AP.Felton;s been doing a good job so far too and I think he will clearing some paths all day.

  46. By jake on Oct 11, 2012 | Reply

    Its all about the D this week. Would love to see williams show some pro-bowl level game play. Seems flat as of late. Offense dont give the ball away. Purple crush must take thier offense out of the game! put everson griffin on qb spy duty. rookie qb + blitz = turnovers. GO PURPLE D!!!!! Toby gets 200 yds with limited play time. Adrians ankle may keep him from full potential this week. Ponders week to go deep! 3 TD’s

  47. By 4eversteve on Oct 14, 2012 | Reply

    Have to wonder if Joe Webb saw a lot of time this week in practice week playing the role of RG3, they both have similar talent and give the Vikings a challenge. I think the key for the Vikings is to keep RG3 in the pocket and not let him break contain where he is deadly when he has the option to run or pass. This kid will terrorize the NFL for years to come and carry’s himself like a true professional I wish him well, just not against my Vikings.

  48. By 4eversteve on Oct 14, 2012 | Reply

    I hope the Coach Frazier allows Allan Williams the freedom to run multiple defensive formation this season. Last season that wouldn’t have been possible with the weak secondary play, the Vikings have the athleticism to play a 3-4 but play predominately 4-3 defense I like to see a Buddy Ryan’s 46 defense every now and then, just to give the opposing team’s offensive coordinator something else to game plan against. This would only happen if the Vikings became comfortable in practice running these formations. Yes it’s pretty hard to incorporate that during this season but as the players become more familiar with Williams system they may consider that option maybe not this season but next.

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