Colts Survive Vikings 4th Quarter Rally

Posted by Mike Wobschall on September 16, 2012 – 6:25 pm

As thrilling as last week’s season-opening overtime win was against the Jacksonville Jaguars, this week’s squeaker on the road against the Indianapolis Colts was similarly heart-breaking. Adam Vinatieri, the most clutch kicker in NFL history, split the uprights on a 53-yard FG try with just 8 seconds to play, ending the Vikings late-game rally and sending them home with their first loss of the season.

The Vikings offense started slowly for a second consecutive week, heading to the locker room at halftime with just 49 yards passing and 6 points. The Colts offense wasn’t slow to start, as rookie QB Andrew Luck went 11 of 17 for 142 yards with 2 TDs and no TDs in the first half to stake his club to a 17-6 lead at intermission.

The teams combined to go just 1 of 7 on 3rd downs in the 3rd quarter, and the only score was as 45-yard FG by Vinatieri to stretch the Colts lead to 20-6.

As they did in last week’s win over the Jaguars, the Vikings offense rallied late in the game. Christian Ponder led the Vikings on a pair of 4th-quarter scoring drives, capping the first with a 7-yard TD toss to WR Stephen Burton and the second with 6-yard strike TE Kyle Rudolph. The Rudolph TD and subsequent Blair Walsh PAT tied the score at 20 with just 31 seconds to play.

Unfortunately, those 31 seconds were enough for Luck to drive through the Vikings defense and set the stage for Vinatieri’s 24th game-winning FG, which he striped down the middle effortlessly.

The loss moves the Vikings to 1-1 on the season as they prepare to welcome the San Francisco 49ers next week at Mall of America Field. We’ll have more summary and reaction to Sunday’s game tomorrow, so stay tuned to for coverage.

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359 Responses to “Colts Survive Vikings 4th Quarter Rally”

  1. By OTKalil2012 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply


  2. By Awesome Beyond Belief on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Colts Survive Vikings 4th Quarter Rally

    Very poorly written and misleading title. Colts survived? Sounds like they were in desperate trouble from an impressive attack. I saw the game. Vikes took their time, barely made that second TD by a lucky bounce. KEEP IT REAL!!!

  3. By Spencer on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply


    Watching the offense is just flat out boring. Same predictable play-calling as always. I believe we only attempted one p a s s over 15yds.

    And once we tied the game up, I just knew Luck would march right on down for the game-winner. I have absolutely zero confidence in the D when the game is on the line.

    And in regards to All-Pro DE Jared Allen….dont even get me started.

    Gettin paid $11mil this year and his only stats after 2 games is a tackle and a PD.

  4. By Spencer on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    I know everyone dislikes it when I talk about their precious Jared Allen, but he just been Chris Johnson bad. He looks a step too slow and plays as if he has checked out. I say give Everson Griffen a chance and trade Jared Allen.

    Also, John Carlson….what a horrific signing. Whats the point of having him if we dont get him the ball? He has yet to make a single catch in 2 games.

    Next week we have the 49ers, things are gonna get ugly. Obviously hoping we win, but thats just slim to none.

  5. By Spencer on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    This is how Leslie should have reacted after the Allen penalty on Luck.

  6. By Awesome Beyond Belief on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Niners are killing the Lions. Next week, the Vikings will surprise everyone and will be the only NFC North team to beat the Niners.

  7. By Awesome Beyond Belief on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    What was behind that dumb hit by Kalil that led to a penalty? That was stupid.

  8. By Awesome Beyond Belief on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    And I read on the other blog someone said penalties are not the result of coaching. Bu.ll. That is ALL coaching. Playing with discipline and with no penalties is the result of excellent coaching.

  9. By puckster55pics on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    What Spencer said! Oh and the coaching if we dare call it that is ineffectual or incompetent take your choice-5-11 if we are lucky (very lucky)

  10. By OTKalil2012 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Wow !!!…

    The 49ers defense is that fast on grass !!…

    How fast are they going to be on our artificial turf ???…

    We are going to be in a WORLD of hurt next Sunday !!!…

    Throw the ball 50+ times…And don’t blame Ponder for the int’s…

    It’s going to happen…3 TE sets…Throw away from the 49ers LB’s…Ponder 3 step drops…Get rid of the football…

    Maybe the Vikings survive…

  11. By GrandDaddyPurp on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Who is in charge of defensive play calling? We are NOT a good blitzing team. So who would bring a two man blitz with what 18 seconds left in the game, a way too obvious passing situation? Luck did what any smart quarterback would do. Throw away from the blitz and the got a huge completion to pretty much win the game.

  12. By vegasvike on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply


  13. By vegasvike on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    the Vikings are gonna have to bring their A+ game for all four quarters against the niners

  14. By Spencer on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    ^^^ No sh-t.

  15. By Awesome Beyond Belief on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    I am believing for a win against the Niners, but only cause I sometimes resort to dreaming. If there is one positive this year, our team does stay resilient and come back from behind late in the game– but at the current status quo, I am thinking we may only win 5-8 games.

  16. By Mike B. on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    A few observations from the game from my opinion.

    1st Yards after reception. It was better this game, but still times when they were getting a bunch of yards after the catch. Winfield’s tackles show how to stop this.

    2nd Penalties wow talking about killing drives and giving life to the other team. These were stupid mental mistakes.

    3rd.The Colts were well prepared for our offensive game plan. I am not sure if it is because Musgrave is too predictable or what. Ponder didn’t have open receivers and stayed in the pocket just a bit too long. The Oline was beat a few times, one time was Johnson getting beat on that fumble. Loadholt and Kalil were both getting beat.

    4th We need to get a WR that can break away from defenders. (like Wayne and Allen did) Musgrave must adjust the game plan quicker when the opposing team is prepared for the plan we have. Too much focus on the run.

    5th Jerad Allen needs to focus on the tackle and less on the sack. He missed some nice tackles when he was focusing on the QB.

    6th This game was about penalties and the ability to adjust the game plan before it is too late. This game was on Musgrave and the Players. In my opinion Ponder, AP, Winfield, and Harvin had a good game.

    Need to adjust faster.

    Take Care

    Mike B.

    PS Bright Spot the Rush Defense was very good.

  17. By Awesome Beyond Belief on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Add to that Vegas a crowd that brings horns and screams their heads off for sixty minutes.

  18. By GrandDaddyPurp on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    I did see Ponder being pressured out of the pocket several times. There is still alot of improvement to be done on the OLine but it is certainly better than past yaers

  19. By vikingbob136 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    We know that we are one of the worst teams in football.
    Next week is going to be ugly.Father time has caught up with Winfield.He should only play in 3rd and very long situations.
    Don’t expect the Vikes to win more than 4 or 5 games this year.We are still rebuilding and will be next year. Gotta have patience.Lotsa patience. Tons of patience.Key word patience.School is out for today.

  20. By PurplHaze on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    We need to get MUCH better on offensive and defensive third downs. And those penalties are UNACCEPTABLE!!!

  21. By partyhorn on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    need ta worry about the clock and get somebody in the game plan other than harvin

  22. By partyhorn on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    they are asking alot out of percy he cannot carry the load by himself

  23. By chris_b on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Wonder if the dome will sell out this weedend.

  24. By Justin F on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    To those that want Jared Allen traded, let me say to you “Shut up”.

  25. By Awesome Beyond Belief on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    I think we win 6 or 7 games this year; next year maybe 10, and then we should be rolling. We have to face it: we need another year or two before we are truly in contention, and I hate to say it, but we may need a complete overhaul of the coaching staff.

  26. By OTKalil2012 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Would Brett Favre make a good head coach ???…

    He knows what the no huddle offense is all about…Makes quick decisions on the fly…And still hates Ted Thompson….Played with tempo and rhythm…Did very well in the 2 minute offense…

    All the knowledge the Vikings offense lacks in experience right now…

    Just a crazy thought…

  27. By chris_b on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    This will be the last year we have Allen. He wants to win and he is saving himself for a winning team. He knows there is no chance we will win with this coaching staff. Wouldnt be surpised to see him ask for a trade by the end of the year. Percy will probally leave to.

  28. By Parkway on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    We will rebuild through the draft for another two years then sign one or two “big name” free agents finally and go to the Big Show

  29. By Mike B. on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    It does look like my 5-11 prediction is going to hold. I was expecting this to be one of the wins.

  30. By chris_b on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    How do you guys think we are going to win 6 7 8 games this year did you watch the game this year. Lucky to match last years record.

  31. By Mike B. on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    You can’t fill all your needs through the draft that’s why they have free agency. We should have picked up a top WR from Free Agency.

  32. By partyhorn on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    penalties and mental mistakes flushed this game but the vikes never gave up go next week woo hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  33. By Awesome Beyond Belief on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    The teams of the past couple years and actually many years of Vikings teams would never have come back like this team did the past two weeks. Yes, today we came up a little short, but I take that heart to be a very good sign. If they can bottle that and have that heart for the first half, we may win half our games– but considering we play the worst the first half, I have to say the coaches are not preparing the team well.

  34. By vikingbob136 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Hey, it wasn’t a completely bad day today. The Cowgirls lost to the Seahawks.

  35. By chris_b on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    We have decent players on both sides we are just way to predictable. Our game plan suck. Think ponder has played well just needs another wr that can get open. Mabye simpson will be the answer when he is able to play.

  36. By Dennis on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Still a lousy secondary, lousy pass rush and can’t stop anyone on third down regardless of how many yards they need. Where were the t ends in the first half? 105 yards in penalty’s… REALLY!!

  37. By Parkway on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    @Mike: That’s why we do it in two years. One player can’t make a team. We have the best RB in the league, the best slot WR in the league, the best pass rusher in the league, and look where we are at.

    It would help if we had a big time wide receiver if we could have got Vincent jackson, but we have big Kyle Rudolph who I have only ever seen drop one pass (came today) and we don’t even throw it to him that much because we would rather run for a yard at a time up the middle in a boring and predictable fashion.

  38. By partyhorn on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    hey awesome good line i love heart its where the game starts go vikes

  39. By OTKalil2012 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Release Aromashudo…Bring in the physical 6′ 4″ Gurley from the practice squad…

    Then when Simpson gets back…release either Burton or Jenkins…

    Both Aromashudo and Jenkins are not getting open earlier in games when it still counts…

    Lets try some other WR’s that maybe can make that difference early…

  40. By elvis on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Remember, this was only second game. Stay level headed like partyhorn. The only expectation is to get a handful of games better than last year. Check out Ponder’s stats-improvement. Not like it’s 2009-10.

  41. By partyhorn on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    i agree we need a big threat reciever on the outside

  42. By Parkway on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    It’s not only that, I mean yes we do need one, but how many times did we throw it down field today?? Once?? No wonder we can’t get anywhere in the run they know we aren’t going to throw it anywhere

  43. By OTKalil2012 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Jenkins should have made that play at the goal line…

    Ponder threw that pa ss perfectly for a back shoulder catch…

    Maybe Gurley makes that catch ?? …Maybe Ponder has more confidence in making longer throws if Jenkins makes that grab ??…

    Maybe the coaching staff gains more confidence calling those plays ??…

    But Jenkins missed it…nuff said…

  44. By partyhorn on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    not gonna work when you do not have the tools

  45. By Frederick Jones on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    1-1 is a good start on 8-8. We have made things more difficult for ourselves, but in the NFL the home field is a big advantage.

    We could beat the 49ers, but we have got to figure out a way to cover someone!

  46. By Frederick Jones on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    elvis and partyhorn have the right attitude.

    It’s too early to panic.

    8-8 would be great!

  47. By Awesome Beyond Belief on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    I declare it now– Vikings upset the Forty-niners next Sunday.

  48. By Spencer on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    ^^^ Doubt it, Niners will win…blowout city.

  49. By Awesome Beyond Belief on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Want to place a wager on that, Spencer?

  50. By partyhorn on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    been a vikes fan my whole life rebuild is tough but we have some good talent and i think we will see it only week two hope week three is better

  51. By partyhorn on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    ha ha spencer good attitude

  52. By Spencer on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    The team is just sorry, linebackers cant cover, d-line gets no sacks…and to compile that we now make stupid penalties. Its so very frustrating.

    But on the positive note, Cook played well.

  53. By Spencer on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Fun fact.

    Gabbert threw for -4 yards in the 1st half today at home.
    How bad does our p a s s defense look now?

  54. By Spencer on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Gabbert actually got benched too in that game.

    I give up.

  55. By Awesome Beyond Belief on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Niners are beatable– I can see that right now. Lions are close at candlestick. If our team prepares, our leaders play with complete heart, and with our home field advantage, we will beat the Niners.

  56. By partyhorn on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    keep up the good work spence what does that have ta do with today

  57. By shawn6464 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    I blame Jared Allen for the loss … personal foul led to the points rather than a punt

    and he does nothing for 2 full games … clearly didnt take the offseason seriously

    So I will now say Spencer was right and its time to trade Jared Allen

  58. By shawn6464 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    I also agree with Spencer the team as it stands now has 0.0000000001% chance of competing … not winning … but competing with the 49ers

  59. By shawn6464 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Our DLine is garbage

    Our secondary is garbage

    our LBs are weak at best

    our WRs are weak only because Percy is a beast … otherwise it would be the worst unit in the NFL

    TEs average … maybe

    OL solid

    QB average

    RBs great

  60. By chris on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    ill be at the game on Sunday
    no worries.. vikes havent lost a game ive been to
    put it in the W collumn :)

  61. By partyhorn on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    good god you people how about some positive thoughts we are 1-1 go vikes

  62. By shawn6464 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Jared Allen …. did he play ??? O yea he got a hit on the QB … 8 minutes after the game

  63. By Mike B. on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Just game 2 guys this team is very young and still gelling. I am concerned about not making adjustments quickly, but no reason to think that we will not do better than last year. .

  64. By Wayne on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Jared plays his heart out. The replacement refs from the Lingerie League goota go. C’mon Goodell, the NFL has deep pockets. Settle with Professional Refs !!!!

  65. By shawn6464 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Cant blame the refs for failure … excuses are BS in the NFL

    Jared has lined up against back ups in the first 2 games and was invisible except the personal foul

  66. By eddie torres on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    The offense sucked, again for the first half at least…. that isn’t funny…Vikings will bring their A+ team next week?..What kind of talk is that…they need to stay consistent or they will be lucky to win 3 games…6,7,8? …that isn’t funny… I’m sure the head coach is a nice guy, but if it were up to me and the owners would listen, he would be gone….this team being as young as they are need a head coach that is proven. They need that leadership from a head coach that has done something….besides coming up in the system….the penalties, I will right off for this week as they sure didn’t do that the first game. But 24 or 25 seconds and the defense gives up that much yardage? Now that is funny….in a sick sort of way….and it sickened me to watch that defensive display….

  67. By Awesome Beyond Belief on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Patriots lost at home to the Cardinals today– are they done for the season? No and neither are the Vikings. No team is out of it this early. Take it easy everyone. Vikes will win 10 games.

  68. By Spencer on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn…I have a tear in my eye. You have seen the light!

  69. By Parkway on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Show me a good loser, and I’ll show you a loser.
    -Vince Lombardi

  70. By habs001 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Right now the d is going to give up 20 points or more to most teams and 30 or more to a playoff team…allen had a terrible start last year and picked it when the season was over in the second half..looks like he is doing the same this year…may be a good idea to consider a trade for him as this team is in rebuilding mode…

  71. By Get your Blankies and Suck your thumbs. on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Whine and cry.

  72. By chris on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    vikings can beat any team in the dome
    without a doubt.

  73. By Parkway on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    I said to trade allen before thee year started, he won’t do us any good in 2-3 years when we will have a good team,g et value for him now, same with if anyone is dumb enough to give even a 4th round for winfield

  74. By Spencer on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    “vikings can beat any team in the dome”

    You worded that wrong, it should be…

    “Any team can beat the Vikings in the dome.”

  75. By Spencer on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Oh c’mon, now all of sudden everyone is saying that they said that they wanted Jared Allen traded in the off-season, BULL!

  76. By Get your Blankies and Suck your thumbs. on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Your thumbs must taste real good.

  77. By habs001 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    The culture of giving up big plays at key times in the game has been with this team for years…3rd and long is a blessing for most teams vs the vikings..especially at key situations…

  78. By partyhorn on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    spencer get your blankie and goodbye

  79. By Parkway on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Looks like we will be tied for first (and last) in the division, so maybe if we fire all our coaches now we’ll have a chance.

  80. By shawn6464 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply


    My question for the mailbag is … When is the last time a QB looked below average vs our defense? Im thinking a QB rating of below 80? It seems that every QB is Hall of Fame vs us … even Tim Tebow threw like an All Pro vs our defense.


  81. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    The key to getting back on track is to use Aromodishu more.

  82. By Spencer on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Titus- Aromoa is garbage, just give it up already!! Where was he today???

  83. By Parkway on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    @Titus: Or any receiver at all? You know… pass the ball

  84. By tomcat on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    if they dont stay away from penalties 9ers will trash em. they also need to go deep early- even if they dont connect it will loosen up the defense. if they go ap right ap left ap middle the 9ers will stuff it.

  85. By Jeffbleedspurple on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Any of you watching the Lions and the Niners? I am, we will get eatting alive and I blame the coaching staff and their pathetic play calling for our loss.

  86. By Spencer on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply


    Kevin Kolb looked below average against us last season.

  87. By chris on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    never underestimate the electricty the dome gives the Vikings. D plays with a lot more passion and intensity. AD looks a step quicker

  88. By Spencer on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    The D plays with more passion at home????


  89. By Spencer on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Ok, im getting riled up. Time for me to simmer down.

    On the positive side Erin Henderson looked really good, minus the TD he gave up. Percy was a stud as usual, and Blair Walsh is looking legit.



  90. By jonathan on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    whats the deal with frazier? every time im watching the game they show him on camera on the sidelines with his arms crossed wispering in his head set. i mean come on give the guys motivation fire them up for the next drive or on defense. its pathetic watching 3 and outs from our offense, punt after punt and still the same attitude!!! might as well be the ball boy if your not gonna do anything else on the sideline. on that note GIVE THE NEW PLAYERS “GURLEY OR SUMMERS” FROM THE PRACTICE SQUAD A CHANCE TO PLAY !!! THE RECEIVERS WE HAVE NOW CANT GET THE JOB DONE EXEPT HARVIN. PONDER COULDNT FIND A RECEIVER OPEN ON THE FIELD THATS WHY HE TUCKS AND RUN MOST OF THE TIME!!!! ITS PATHETIC!!!!

  91. By chris on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    that drive had nothing to do with lack of passion.. that was just a good throw and catch vs man coverage.

  92. By Spencer on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply


    I’ve been saying that for a long time my friend. But as always I got ridiculed by the Viking Faithful.

  93. By GrandDaddyPurp on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Jared is not getting any younger. If we truly are rebuilding we would have traded Allen in the offseason when he had probably the most value he will ever have.

  94. By chris on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    i think everyone agrees with Jonathan

  95. By GrandDaddyPurp on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    And Jared made contact with Luck before he stepped out of bounds. I saw Vick take a hit late out of bounds and no flag was thrown. That was the refs on that play.

  96. By GrandDaddyPurp on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Yeah its about time we get a coach who can teach our O about something called a no huddle offense.

  97. By jonathan on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply



  98. By chris on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    a great coach is very underestimated in this league.
    I.e harbough with the niners. completly turned that offense around

  99. By jonathan on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply


  100. By Spencer on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Alright, lets examine the 49ers/Vikes game.

    Ponder vs Alex Smith: Advantage Smith
    Kyle Rudolph vs Vernon Davis: Advantage Davis
    Vikes WR core vs Niners WR core: Advantage 49ers
    Vikes Oline vs Niners Oline: Advantage 49ers.
    Vikes RBs vs Niners RBs: Advantage Vikings.
    Vikes Dline vs Niners Dline: Advantage 49ers.
    Vikes LBers vs Niners LBers: Advantage 49ers.
    Vikes Secondary vs Niners Secondary: Advantage 49ers.
    Blair Walsh vs David Akers: Pretty even.

  101. By Utley on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    This Coaching staff has got to go!!!

    1.)A rookie QB should not be that confident and relaxed in the pocket!! Our defensive game plan was a joke!!

    2.) Ponder has shown he can throw the ball, they need to get him going earlier so he gets into a rhythm and this offense has a more balanced attack!

    3.) Jared Allen needs to get his sh!t together!! I don’t think he took this offseason seriously. He looks horribly slow and weak.

    4.) I’m so freaking tired of watching our team game plan around Adrian and the running game every week for the last 3 years!!!! Its not working!!!! We either stall out on our drives or kick a field goal early in every game. When we get behind, thats when we start passing.. Game plan around Percy Harvin, he is the true play maker on this team, then you establish the running game and take the deep shot.

    5.) Leslie Frasier needs to stop sulking on the sidelines and post game pressers when things are not going the Vikes way. Horrible leadership!!!

  102. By Vikesfan92 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    its amazing how all the “real vikings fans” completely give up on their team after one bad game

  103. By jonathan on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply



  104. By Parkway on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    It’s amazing at how people on here criticize real vikings fans for being critical of the team because they don’t understand what it means to BLEED PURPLE and suffer constant disappointment from this team and see it terribly mismanaged. A loss is a loss, but when you play the way we played, THAT’S why it’s so frustrating.

  105. By chris on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Jared Allen could easily get 3 or 4 sacks next game and all of you haters will be on his D*ck again, Classic examples of living in the moment

  106. By Spencer on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    I dont care if Jared Allen gets 3 or 4 sacks next game, what I care about is if he gets a sack in the 4th quarter.

  107. By jonathan on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    @ CHRIS

  108. By chris on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    3 or 4 sacks > one sack in the 4th quarter


  109. By DAVE on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply


  110. By Spencer on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Last season he only had 3 4th quarter sacks, 2 of the 3 came in 1 game.

    We lost 8 games by 7 points or less last season.

    We sure could have used some of those sacks when opposing quarterbacks were driving down for the game winning scores.

    But thats last season.

  111. By RichardA1 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    The Superbowl caliber 49ers come to town, run, hide your vikings shields and swords,,,,no, now c’mon, this would really build charcter if the Vikes beat them, confidence, momentum. What can you say they looked pathetic, they could barely play a fourth game preseason team and win. Discipline Discipline Discipline, coach needs to run them into the ground with running drills, get through to them “boys”.

  112. By chris on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply


    completely agree that he has had a couple of rough games. but this man was a sack away from breaking the sack record last year. all this trade talk after a couple of bad games in nonsense!

  113. By Spencer on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    I’ve said it then, and Im dam sure saying it now.

    By Spencer on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    I dont get why we dont just trade Jared Allen. We claim to be re-building, so why not get rid of the 31yr old? The amount of picks and talent we get in return would jump-start the franchise.

  114. By Spencer on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn- whose more important, Percy or Jared Allen?

  115. By NDVike on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    When you look at a coach like Harbaugh, you see a man of passion for the game until the last second of the 4th quarter. I was so disgusted today with the clock management like we have plenty of time to come back and make two scores in 5 minutes, then suddenly realize hey, now there’s only 3 minutes left so let’s use up all our time outs and get the ball back and score. Frasier does not light a fire in these guys. He just stands there no matter what. Percy – he is on fire always.

  116. By chris on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Percy is the most important offensive player in the league. not even close, Hes our whole offense
    i know you were asking Shawn but this question was just rediculous

  117. By xvike on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Vikes fans aren’t giving up. We are just not being optimistic any more. Honestly, it would take a darn miracle for the vikings to win next sunday. Alex smith picked apart the packers defense and did a pretty good job against the lions. The vikings D made gabbert look like a pro bowler and luck too. Jared allen has been getting owned. Who still thinks he’s better than Ware? I never did. the way he’s been playing definitely proves he is second to ware. I know he’ll pick it up eventually but he has had zero impact in both games so far. A tackle and PD through two games. What a joke. Anyway, back to the niners and vikes game. Alex smith is going to tear through this secondary. I would pass all day long on all 4 downs against this defense. That’s how sad it is. I can’t believe other teams even respect this defense. We should let them know that if they go for it on 4th down, they’ll get the first down 99% of the time. There are so many things that this team needs to improve on. Time to face it vikings fans. The vikings are just not that good. Their history of bouncing back from bad seasons are over. The vikings are going to be cellar dwellers for years to come. They need a complete roster do over.

  118. By 03 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Not much change from last year. Ponder is Ponder, same old same old. Viking football is not improving, but corporate business. It shows in their play. When they play good, then business should follow. Until then the team would stay the same. Bring Favre back!

  119. By H.M.G. on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Percy is a corner stone for this team. When it is ready Allen will be gone.

  120. By Vikesfan92 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply


    It would be pretty funny to see farve get out there behind his walker and pass for a couple TD’s

  121. By 03 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder shouldn’t take seriously about Vikings plays running game, he should know how to throw the ball into the field.

  122. By chris on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    biggest thing with Ponder


    you see 1 on 1 coverage throw it up! half the time you draw a PI

  123. By chris on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    plus hes not comfortable in the pocket at all..

  124. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Time to beat the Niners.

  125. By Don_Pisto on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    @Utley — well said!

    I won’t pile on with the shared sentiments, BUT did everyone else just knew what was going to happen soon as the Colts got the ball back with less than a minute?

    Giving up 40+ yards in 10 seconds is an embarrassment, especially in the closing seconds. Surely the Vikings have got to hold the all time record ( if such a stat is kept) for games lost by a field goal in last seconds after giving up huge chunks of big pass gains by the opponent to get in FG range in final minute.

    Hats off to the Colts. They certainly had the better game plan and executed when it counted most. And their practice squad O-Line owned the Vikings D when it counted.

    Sorry, but Franzier needs to move to front office and take a desk job for the Dolphins and Musgrave should retire and write books for Pop Warner “Offense For Dummies.”

  126. By animal26 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    the 49ers game is going to be very, very, very, very, very ugly to watch. I truly think the only way, I’ll be able to watch this game, is if I have a lot of alcohol and I mean a lot.

  127. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    alcohol is never a solution.

  128. By Don_Pisto on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Where is Coach Singletary during games? I thought for sure he would be lighting some fires under players who need it, especially being a “special assistant” and him being a well known motivator. Is he and Frazier some sort of plant from the Bears to incurr as much damage as possible so that it will take years to turn around? Hmmm

  129. By 03 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    I’m not sure if I can watch Vikings anymore, as long as Ponder is throwing horizontally.

  130. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Coach Frazier needs to get Aromadishu heavily involved next week to have a chance.

  131. By Don_Pisto on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Some of the players should be made to come in to the office to get their paychecks rather than getting Direct Deposit. If I were the one handing out checks, I would make the players come in to collect and ask them to say what they did to earn their pay this period?

    What would Carlson say? Allen? Others (you know the names). …. Percy though can get Direct Deposit

  132. By 03 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    The Vikings needs to make lots of difficult decisions to improve the team. Also, each players should not put the personal record as priority. The priority is team work. Percy is the role model.

  133. By SoCalVike on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    What do Obama & Leslie Frasier have in common? They don’t know what they are doing….It’s called a “hurry up offense”

  134. By NDVike on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    It’s really tough to be a Vikes fan when the team is not passionate. It all goes back to the coaching staff. I always said that football is a mental game played out physically. Sure you need physical skills, but passion for the game uplifts even mediocre players. I loved Brett Favre for how he loved to play the game. I think he would make a great coach.

  135. By Don_Pisto on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    That’s the most frustrating thing about being a Viking fan: the fans have more passion than the organization.

    It starts at the top.

    Bring in some real coaches, have some real practices each week, and come in on game day reay to “play to win” , not “play to not lose”!

  136. By animal26 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Fire Frazier and hire Brett favre? hmmmmm, Well, I have always respected Brett Favre and I’m sure he could bring passion and discipline back to this team. Why not, I’d be all for bringing back the ole gunslinger to be our head coach.

  137. By 03 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    The top’s mind is business, not football – how to franchise the players. the players become precious corporate investment. Precious corporate investment don’t know how to throw the ball vertically. Get rid of the corporate mind, put the new guy in the field!!!

  138. By Ohboy on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Well, looks like the Vikes are still up to the usual. Can’t help but make a bad team look good.

  139. By 03 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    It’s OK to admit Ponder is not good, but it’s NOT OK to pretend he is good.

  140. By campfrazier on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    I knew Allan Williams was going to be a joke, I was hopeful. but sure had that icky feeling in my stomach when he was announced as our new D-coordinator.

    Does Ponder know how to pump fake guys open, how about the lookoff, Hard count? All they do is talk about all the progress he has made. Are the things I mentioned, basics? Ponder has decent numbers at the end of the game but who cares about stats when you look awful for an entire half and/or lose the game, whats his deal? I know he hasn’t even played 16 games yet, but come on seriously. he seems to play better at crunch time by then its too late, at least this week it was.

  141. By animal26 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    quite correct 03. Ponder just doesn’t seem to be able to go through all his progressions, even when he has time. He looks at 1 maybe 2 players tops, then if they aren’t open, he will run with the ball. Could it be that no one is open, or that he doesn’t have the time? Perhaps, but from what I’ve seen out of ponder, in these past two games. He’s just doesn’t play with a sense of urgency; at least that’s what I see. He looks way to lackadaisical, until the 4th quarter. That wont win you games. He has to play with urgency every single down, every single quarter, every single game. Ponder’s a nice guy, but I just don’t see him as a True franchise QB.

  142. By animal26 on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    honestly, if we lose by 21 points, I think that will be a good game for the Vikings. I could easily see a 49-6 victory for the 49ers……………………… :\

  143. By Utley on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    @ xvike

    I dont think this team is that bad, I think our coaching staff is.. Everyone keeps talking about Alex Smith, but Ponder actually has better numbers than he does. 49ers have a coaching staff, thats the difference.

    Singletary made that franchise look ridiculous and Jim has turned it completely around with solid game plans and confidence. On a side note, we hired Singletary???

    We have some really good players on this team, we just need the right leaders. I think this organization understands that Frazier is out the door after this season. They had to get rid of Childress’s contract and now they will get rid of Frazier.

    Gruden, Billick, or Cowher could possibly be on their way… I personally think Billick has an amazing football mind and would love to see him back with the purple! Skol Vikes!!!

  144. By Frederick Jones on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply


    Sometimes the previous coach or even coaches pave the way for the current coach.

    For example at Northwestern Dennis Green petitioned the college to get him what the WildCats needed to win every Saturday. They didn’t get it for him, or even the next coach, but Green’s persistence helped pave the way for Barnett who led them to a Big Ten Title.

  145. By Frederick Jones on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    @ Utley,

    I am sure that Singletary is an outstanding coach in some ways. He may get on people sometimes. But I’ll bet there are Viking players who like him, or he wouldn’t still be here.

  146. By Frederick Jones on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply


    Brian Billick is an excellent announcer. He shows you things the camera does not allow the viewer to see, like the blocking! He shows you more than just the quarterback, which we can see.

  147. By Utley on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Stop blaming Ponder, our 2nd yr QB is not the problem…When the Vikes get behind from running the entire game, they are forced to ditch the game plan and allow Ponder to throw the ball. He develops a rhythm and he plays very well.

  148. By Utley on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Wow, you people are defending Singletary??? Jim had no NFL coaching experience and took the same horrible Singletary team, with the exact same players, without an offseason and took them to the NFC championship game.. I really don’t even have to debate it… It speaks for itself.

  149. By Spencer on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Stop blaming Ponder? He cant read a defense and always stares down his reads.

  150. By Frederick Jones on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Unfortunately FreddDogg has only had the opportunity to see the first quarter of each ball game this year. So Jones has missed seeing 6 quarters of Vikings football.

    Even so, I’ll bet it’s a team problem that the Vikings are having. O Line D Backs are just not there yet for the Vikings.

    I think they should play Josh Robinson and Marcus Sherels more often. We need people who are quick enough to be close to the ball. We need “cover” guys!

    Little by little we could get the people we need. The O Line could surprise and springload Peterson next week.

    Stranger things have happened.

  151. By Jimmy Jr. on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    John Gruden. That’s who the vikes need. Didn’t the jags go down the field late in the forth last week, just like the colts. Coaches didn’t learn anything from that. Seems like they called the exact same defense. In that situation shouldn’t u rush three and drop everyone back in coverage.

  152. By Frederick Jones on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply


    First…no NFL team is exactly the same from year to year.
    Second…even if they were they could learn from the experience
    Third…go back a few of my posts and read the one about Dennis Green. Stuff like that happens in high school football every year, in nearly every section of the state.

  153. By Frederick Jones on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply


    The Dogg would like to see you read a defense with three 295 pound guys in your face!!!

  154. By Utley on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    @ Frederick

    You’re right, Singletary will definitely be a head coach in the NFL again.. He11, why dont we just make him our head coach..

  155. By Frederick Jones on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply


    Are you talking about our coaches, Tampa Bay’s Coaches, Colt coaches, your high school coaches?

    John Gruden won the Super Bowl with Tony Dungy’s team. He had I think, one playoff team afterwards. He is a good coach, but not necessarily the answer to the Viking problems.

  156. By Frederick Jones on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply


    That is another situation for you: Gruden won the Super Bowl with Tony Dungy’s team.

    Nobody wins without talent.

    The Vikings do have some young talent. 8-8 is still reasonable and would be a WONDERFUL improvement.

  157. By Utley on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    @ Spencer

    27 of 35

    245 yrds

    2 TD’s

    0 INT’s

    I’ll repeat… Do not blame Ponder

  158. By Utley on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    He also turned around a Raiders organization around… Your examples are horrible!

  159. By Frederick Jones on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply


    I doubt that Singletary will get another chance at a Head Coaching position in the NFL.
    But the Dogg is often wrong, and surely stranger things have happened.

    Lots of guys on here want Frazier to yell. What they forget is that we have Iron Mike to do that for us. He may have broken a few tables in the lockerroom, or maybe he is about to do that!!!

    Not that I think it would do any good.

    The dogg thinks we didn’t run enough in pre-season to be better than 8-8.

  160. By Frederick Jones on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply


    Let’s go back and look at who coached there before Gruden…and they had winning seasons most of those years. The Raiders are STILL one of the most successful NFL teams!!

    The dogg is pretty sure Gruden was handed talent during those years. Remember they also had a slimey guy by the name of Al Davis to recruit talent. Davis has always been one of the best!

  161. By Frederick Jones on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply


    Just as Jones thought,

    Bugel was 4-12 the year before Gruden took over. BUT the previous 9 seasons the Raiders were no worse than 7-9 (and 7-9 only happened twice).

    So they did not adapt well to Bugel’s staff, which made things easier for Gruden, who spelled like a rose after the 4-12 season.

    Winning is a great deodorant.

  162. By Frederick Jones on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier could be doing some amazing things with this team, but so far they have not performed on the field. Unfortunately sometimes that is the way of the NFL, but things have a way of turning quickly.

    Frazier deserves a full season, then we may have to change if improvement is not coming. But to fire him now would be silly to most of the players, and other coaches. They know better.

    You can’t keep firing the teacher, and expect the students roll with the changes.

  163. By Frederick Jones on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier could be doing some amazing things with this team, but so far they have not performed on the field. Unfortunately sometimes that is the way of the NFL, but things have a way of turning quickly.

    Frazier deserves a full sea son, then we may have to change if improvement is not coming. But to fire him now would be sil ly to most of the players, and other coaches. They know better.

    You can’t keep firing the teacher, and expect the students roll with the changes.

  164. By Frederick Jones on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply


    The Jones Dogg is trying to give you an education. Dogg used to be a coach, and knows the trials and tribulations a coach goes through.

  165. By Roger Troy Wilson on Sep 16, 2012 | Reply


    I am TOTALLY DONE with these incompetent people! I have been a season-ticket holder since the inception in 1961, and I am now giving up my tickets forever! What I saw today is TOTALLY INEXCUSABLE

  166. By j.g. on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    ya the cowgirls lost. it kinda takes the sting out of todays loss. how do the teams like the 49ers,steelers,patsys do it? it seems like they just reload and the vikes keep just keep spinning there wheels. if minnesota wins only 3 games this year which is what i’m thinking, i’m sorry but musgrave, frazier, gotta go.

  167. By Utley on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    The Utley has nothing left to say to the Dogg because the Dogg is delusional and keeps pulling horrible responses from the Dogg’s rear.

  168. By Utley on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    @ JG

    Cowboys loss definitely helped!!!

  169. By T.HARRIS on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Get rid of Frasier ass now.How you not going to have your team in a hurry up mode fortunate we got a lucky bounce.Ponder ain’t sh..t,and Secondary ain’t either.Dumb penalties.I,m mad this bullsh..t

  170. By RAleander on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply


  171. By thenaj17 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Too many really negative people here slating Jared Allen and saying we are doomed and also some deluded people who think we will make the playoffs. Is there no middle ground of realism? We are not in the worst 5 teams but no chance we make the postseason with the fixtures we have. I relooked at our games and some of the easier games we expected after last season are now going to be harder such as Seattle, Arizona and St Louis.

    We have a positive future with some very good young players:

    Ponder has looked much better and more confident
    Harvin looks unstoppable
    AP has only just come back and looks sharp but will keep getting better
    The O-Line has shown better run protection and some better pass protection
    Simpson hasn’t played yet so our vertical threat will improve
    We have shedded a lot of dead weight since Frazier took over
    We may struggle this year but we will be able to add the best WR or CB from the draft

    Stop being so negative with Frazier, a lot of good things have happened towards a rebuild since he took over permanently. These things do take time, so at least afford him that

  172. By borgiskhaan on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    The vikings have no Agame, there not good enough to play their game, the only way they can win is by beating their opponents at their opponents game.Im one person l know i would allow all those yards. The vikings defense is a open door. Every opponent is better for the rest of their schedule, wow. There shoul nt be one player or coach proud of anything, so quit hyping innatiquicy

  173. By Deer Tracks on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Game Time. 49ers—97, Vikings—minus -23/1/2.

    Vikings have a contest going. See who can make the most penalties.

    Frazier read Denny Green’s book 2 seconds left time for 1 Hail Mary pass.
    “Take a knee”

  174. By autobon7 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    What a terrible game called by both ends of our coaching staff. How plain/vanilla/predictable/etc can you get? We may as well hand our play book to the other team. Didnt see em go deep not one time. Ponder still looks gun shy with not a lot of confidence. I think we need a coaching revamp and eval the players after that. We will be VERY lucky to win 3-4 games this year if we don’t make some changes.

  175. By Bigfan1 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    They barely got by Jacksonville and three years ago they barely beat the niners with Favre at the helm playing his best ever. With their performance in Indy they either have to vastly improve in one week or it’s 1-2.

  176. By OTKalil2012 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    To all the fans on Ponders case about not reading his progressions…Or Ponder getting the ball down the field to his WR’s…

    Those WR’s have to be OPEN to warrant a pass thrown their way !!…If not…INTERCEPTIONS happen…And the ball starts going the other way…duh..

    Is Ponder having any trouble getting the ball to his (fantastic) slot receiver Harvin…And allowing him to make big plays !!!…Is not Rudolf making some plays ???…

    WR’s need to get separation…There are plenty of times during any NFL games…Camera crews will show WR’s running open during games…Showing MISSED opportunities a QB could have made…

    The only camera shots of the Vikings WR’s down field that I have seen…The defense has had a “blanket coverage” all over them !!!…

  177. By tommyt178 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    we all know with 30 seconds in the fourth quater they get down field for field goal. why in first half would vikings with 50 plus seconds jujst knee for half time . just stupid

  178. By Matthias on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Always funny to see people talking like: “I am a long time season ticket holder…”, “I am a diehard viking’s fan… I am done with this team” or ” negative talking, negative talking, worst football team, negative talking”…

    Get over it and support your team! I am glad that nobody of us has a say about it. We would ruin the viking’s franchise in no time. I can’t stand those selfcalled experts around here…

  179. By jv3rnon on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Man it’s getting frustrating to watch. Allen just can’t get back there know more. The secondary needs overhaul. Smith gonna be a star and Robinson I don’t know yet. Cook is not a lock down corner and Winfield is slowing down as he got burned yesterday. AJ Jefferson just played special teams I don’t why he ain’t playing. Weakest part of the defense is NT,MLB, and secondary. On offense WRs wont get open. It seems like all the plays are to pass to Harvin and Rudolph and run AP that is it. Musgrave play calling is bland no flavor at all and Frazier coaching is bad too. Wilf’s you the stadium now get the players and the personnel to help us win!!!!!!

  180. By Deer Tracks on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    tommy, it was 2 seconds left on the clock, time for one throw upfield to Percy Harvin….Maybe would have been lucky, It has happened before…

  181. By JE on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    That gameplan was terrible. Down 2 scores and running the ball up the gut?? Are you kidding me.You call that a hurry up offense?? WOW. I run to the toilet faster than that.

  182. By dieseldog on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Messege to the 49er’s… weeks Vikings game plan….3 yard rush, 2 yard rush, 4yard pass to Rudolph, punt…..take the week off….show up sunday.

  183. By Mac on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    GrandDaddyPurp we can’t cover anyway and we can’t get to the qb with a 4 man rush. We just plain suck, again. 49ers will win by 3 TD’s. We will not be able to stop them. They have better talent and are better Coached.

  184. By JE on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Yes Ponders numbers were good but you have to take shots down the field at some point even if the recievers are covered. Hopefully JSimpson will help that . I would also like to see Gurly orSummers get a chance. With that size you are going to have a mismatch. Nothing better than a 6 5″ reciever in the red zone.

  185. By dieseldog on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    The Ponder experiment needs to end…..he will always be average at best.
    Mustgrave needs to expand the play book from 3 plays to at least 5.

  186. By JE on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I still think using Todman in late game situations when your behind is a good idea.He is the kind of back you can throw the ball to and has gamebreaking speed to take it to the house.

  187. By dieseldog on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    The only hope for a win next week….Bring in Gurley, fake an injury to Ponder in pre-game warm ups, let Webb run the 49er defense ragged.

  188. By dieseldog on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Right on JE!

  189. By JE on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is doing ok. That was only his 12th start. Hes not turning the ball over and has shown good accuracy. JSimpson was his main target in camp and think his return will really help the offense. Way to early to give up on Ponder.Hes just getting started.Give the guy a chance to play some more games.

  190. By dieseldog on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings 21, 49ers 17, 8 seconds left in the game, 49ers with ball on their own 30 yard line, Smith drops back, Touch Dooooooooooooooowwwwwwwnnnnnn!

  191. By OTKalil2012 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder did take shots down the field when all else failed…

    What about the bobbled pa ss by Rudolf, leading to the TD catch of Burton…

    Or the deep touch pa ss to Jenkins..That Jenkins missed…

    That was a catch-able football..Well thrown ball and a missed opportunity by Jenkins…Not Ponder…

    The point is…The WR’s on this team are not getting open..Unless coverage loosens up late in games with leads…Allowing Ponder throws in Shudo and Jenkins way…They are not physical enough to come down with jump ba lls either ??…Jenkins proved that fact again against the Colts…

    Why wait to try to find a compliment for when Simpson comes back…Get Wright in the when gets healthy…Until then..Put Gurley or Summers in there…

    Any WR can do what Shudo and Jenkins are doing for the Vikings right now…

    And that is nothing…

  192. By vikeforever on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    As all the prior posts, I am frustated too. But, we have to deal with reality. The Vikings aren’t going anywhere we knew that before the season started. They barely beat a very bad Jags team and lost to a bad Colts team. That is a reality and going against the niners next week and predicting we would be even close to winning that game is a bout in fantasy. I love the Vikes, but our offense is too predictable, we go out and sign Carlson for what reason? I am was sure that they were going to use a lot of 2 or 3 tight end sets because of our lack of receivers, and we didnt know how healthy our running game would be with Peterson. Our defense is a work in progress, when I look at the highlights the defense looked out of place. I just want to see inprovement next week because that game would definitely be painful to watch.

  193. By dieseldog on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Bring in GURLEYman and lets make something happen next week!

  194. By dieseldog on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    The only way for the vikings to beat the 49ers is to be totally unpredictable.

  195. By RichardA1 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I did’nt think the Colts were ever going to accept the game as our gift to them, penalties, they played like they got minimum wage, not like millionaires!

  196. By OTKalil2012 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    If you are Frazier…

    Don’t you at least try to make some changes that might look like you know what your doing ???…

    Why not release Aromashudo ???…He has been a bubble cut from the 53 man roster for over a year now…

    The only decent game he has ever played was the 4th preseason game this year…Against 2nd team scrubs trying to win a roster spot ???…

    Why not announce this week..That Gurley and Summers are getting most of the first team reps in pratice this week…Jenkins knows the offense well anyway…

    Maybe the 49ers actually might think they have to game plan against the Vikings WR’s for this coming Sunday…Instead of just using their ball boy to cover them…

    Would it hurt just once for Frazier doing something creative ???…Or to get some solid competition at the WR position ???…

    But don’t look for anything like this to happen…

    Frazier doesn’t like change…

  197. By dieseldog on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I feel sorry for Frazier. In his press conference you could tell he was deeply disappointed, and it was difficult for him to stand in front of the microphone.
    I think he is a decent guy and I think he works hard. But the fact is, watching most games is so disappointing in regards to clock management, play calling and strategies. I hope he can figure things out and bring more success…..time is running out.

  198. By dieseldog on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier needs to bring in Gurley and Summers, even Todman perhaps…give the 49ers something to think about. If Ponder starts out like s@#t yank the guy immediately….if Webb sucks put in Thompson, put up with no excuses, no BS. A desperate team needs to do desperate things. If nothing else it would be an entertaining game.

  199. By dieseldog on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    What was with Robison missing an easy safety? How much do these guys get paid again?

  200. By Spencer on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I think its time for some Bobby Felder.

    Hes a play-maker. I honestly dont see any DB getting more than 2ints this year.

  201. By Spencer on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Robison missed the sack because he was going for the strip.

  202. By OTKalil2012 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I agree Spencer…

    Robison was going for the icing on the cake…

    The sack was there..

    Robison wanted the strip sack and defensive TD…

  203. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings will dominate the Niners.

  204. By Spencer on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Titus- Where was the great Aroma?

    CUT HIM!

  205. By DAN on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder has the highest completion rate in the league right now at 75.8%. It’s a team effort. Ponders not the problem.

  206. By OTKalil2012 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Strib has an article with Brian Billick…

    Billick mentions the Vikings need playmakers outside of just Harvin at the WR position…

    Can not post the link for some reason ???…

  207. By VegasVike on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Percy said “we gave the NFL a perfect example of how to lose a game”
    11 penalties for 105 yards, that’s almost double of what AP rushed for. Shame shame!

  208. By Utley on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    @ OTKalil

    I want Billick as our head coach so bad!! The guy is brilliant!

    Ponders completion % in these last two games has been outstanding. Through out the game he looked down field too many times to find no one open and I’m sure he lacks the confidence in our “B” team WR’s to just throw it up in hopes they make a play. I blame our GM Spielman for not getting him the help at WR in the FA and the draft and our coaching staff for the run 1st game planning they’ve used for the last 2 seasons.

  209. By Utley on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    @ Dan

    finally someone with a brain!!!

    Everyone is raving over Alex Smith’s play (Ponder has better numbers) and when asked about his success he said it best. “My success is a reflection off the plays my team mates are making.

    Ponder does not have a WR to throw to, only Kyle and Percy , but yet has great numbers and zero INT’s

  210. By JE on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    That was a painful loss. Indy is not that good and were missing several players. Just when you think we are getting better they go out and lay an egg! Im not jumping off the 7th floor yet cuz its early but i expected better than what we got yesterday.

  211. By Parkway on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    @Dan, Utley

    Not getting down on Ponder since it’s not his fault, but it’s not that hard to have a high completion rate when the coaches only call p a s s es of 10 yards and under.

  212. By Utley on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    @ Parway,

    A completion is a completion.. TE’s (Kyle) and Slot receivers (Percy) which are the only legitimate starters on the team rarely go deep. Ponder hit Jenkins in the hands on a deep pass that he dropped.

  213. By JE on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I thought Ponder played a solid game.He needs more help and i think alot of fans are underestamating the absence of our biggest free agent signing JSimpson. Ponder hooked up with JSimp often in camp and preseason and i cant wait til he gets back. Wow do we need help from him!

  214. By JE on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Yes his comp percentage is high and yes throwing undeneath helps that but Ponder has shown some promise for a young QB. Hes not turning the ball over and had us in position to win the game.Not bad for his 12th start and without a legit z reciever.

  215. By Ozzinator on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Cook was a no show!

  216. By JE on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I hang this loss on the defense. Indy was missing players and starting the rookie and we couldnt get to him. The offense stepped up and tied the game and the D couldnt close. Tough loss to a team we should be better than.

  217. By Matthias on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Don’t forget that both Ponder and Luck were lucky not to get any interception. But they are young and “inexperienced”. I am happy that we drafted Ponder. We just need a legimate deep threat.

  218. By Matthias on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply


  219. By JE on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Really happy with AP. As long as he and Harvin can stay healthy we have a chance at winning some games. Get Rudolph and Simpson going and hopefully we can start to put up a few more points and win some ballgames.

  220. By TheRealDon on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I’m so sick of you fans..@Spencer fans like you is why other teams fans come here and talk bad about us.. No faith I get it your mad who isn’t..

  221. By Mike B. on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    This is not the time to throw anyone under the bus. The players made mistakes and the coaches were slow to react to a team that was well prepared for us. This doesn’t mean we a bad team. Just means we have things to fix and that’s the coaches job. If we are sitting here in Game 10 and still discussing the same things then it is time to start throwing individuals under the bus not the second game of the seanson. Give Frazier his year and see if he can make it happen.

  222. By Mike B. on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    That said I am hoping that Simpson can be that Z receiver and spread the field. I am not seeing that from the current core of WR except Harvin.

  223. By Parkway on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Where is Carlson for real? I know he was injured so I didn’t expect much last week, but we didn’t even target our “big” 20 million dollar acquisition this week?

  224. By Deer Tracks on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier: In your “Play Book” you have all of 3 plays.

    Run on first down Run on second down. Pass on third down.

    That will gain you 8 yards.(maybe). Kick ball away. (again)

    You have now used all the plays. Ask the other coach for his playbook.

  225. By OTKalil2012 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    This team will still win football games…

    Ponder is doing very well in my personal opinion…

    I am not even going to complain about the secondary…For the most part they are keeping plays and receivers in front them and doing a decent job tackling…

    Is the secondary exploding up to attack the run…Or attacking the receiver yet busting up plays…Or getting int’s..

    No…Not yet…

    But they seem to be learning the basic fundimentals so far…Keeping the plays in front of them, and not giving up big plays and chasing after them by taking wrong angles on receivers after the catch…

    Sooner or later their young play making insticts the secondary will start to show up more as the season goes on…The talent is there…

    The secondary is not taking to many risks early this season..That is an area that might be rewarded for because of early patience later on this season…

  226. By Parkway on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    @Deer Tracks:

    Wow I thought I was just a genius that I noticed the predictability of our play calling. Is punting a play though? So we might have 4 plays. Sometimes we should punt on 3rd down just to throw other teams off.

  227. By OTKalil2012 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    This is a very young secondary except for Winfield…

    But like what I see so far in their young devolopment…When these young guys start recognizing routes and formations…And start learning receivers…

    This will be a very good secondary in the future…

    I want a LB in in the 2013 season…Maybe 2… : )

  228. By Parkway on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Our LBs are good at the run, but terrible in pass coverage

  229. By OTKalil2012 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    *LB or 2 in the 2013 draft…

  230. By odark30 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Look at these stats……We should have won this game. That game made me sick. I swear I have a hang-over from it.

    Min Ind
    First downs 19 17
    Total Net Yards 327 278
    Rushes-yards 26-95 30-84
    Passing 232 194
    Punt Returns 5-51 1-11
    Kickoff Returns 4-111 1-19
    Interceptions Ret. 0-0 0-0
    Comp-Att-Int 27-35-0 20-31-0
    Sacked-Yards Lost 4-13 2-30
    Punts 4-48.0 5-53.6
    Fumbles-Lost 2-1 0-0
    Penalties-Yards 11-105 7-51
    Time of Possession 30:22 29:38

  231. By RichardA1 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    How are they aloud to get away with this, no discipline at all, amateurs!

  232. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I have a feeling this team will come out on fire next week and shock the football world, beating the niners. Yes, I am certain of it.

  233. By Pablo on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    yO INSISTO, malas juagadas del coordinador ofensivo … en los primeros dos cuartos y parte del tercero las jugadas no eran las correctas.

    Yo les pregunto ¿Cuantos pases profundo lanzo ponder, cuando los colts fueron la defensiva numero 25 del año pasado contra el pase ?

    El coordinador ofensivo tiene idea , tiene buenas jugadas, pero falta ser mas ofensivo !!!! mas agresivo .. debemos de ser agresivos!!!!!! para poder ganar los proximos juegos de lo contrario no ganaremos 6 en todad la temporada…


  234. By DrinkHeavy on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I said it before and I’ll say it again.. I predicted the Colts loss last week before the Jag game..the Jags are a terrible team led by a lousy 2nd year QB and a star RB that held out all pre-season..yet the Vikes made them look competitive. Our OL, DL, LBs and DBs are still very sub-par compared to just average NFL teams. I don’t blame it all on a lack of talent either. We don’t have proven Super Bowl talent, but these guys all came out of major college programs, right?

    That’s why, player talent aside, I really think the pressure is really on Frazier and his coaches to show that THEY BELONG in the NFL. As far as I am concerned, he’s got this and one more year to show what he can do. If this trend of late game chokes and prevent victory game plans continue in year 3, time to hire a legitimate NFL head coach with a SB win (Cowher, Billick, Gruden, etc) and not some lame assistant DB coach. So Les, the clock is ticking..are you gonna do something or not with these guys?

    Keep’em cold guys..GO VIKES

  235. By Troutdaddy on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Man- still so many whiners here. Lets get real for a sec. Ponder did just fine. He still has a great QB rating and did what he was supposed to. Our offensive coordinator has got to do something more than use Harvin and Peterson. We have enough receivers to make it work. We need to use Rudolf more often. He is 6 foot 6 for Pete’s sake. Our defense and our secondary are the reason we lost the game. They played tentitively and loose and gave the Colts big buffers. Cook was terrible and so was Allen. I am still big fans of theirs bu I am Just saying that our defense has got to do it now or never. Our offense is is doing ok but the play calling in the red zone is not aggressive. It is predictable and uninspiring. Walsh is still the man and is giving it his all. So are Peterson, Harvin and a few other folks, but it needs to be everyone. Frazier should listen to his fans a little more about predictability and enthusiasm. I bet he doesn’t read this blog at all, but if he did I would tell him that the sky is not falling yet, but Chicken Little is getting out his blow horn if he can’t create some urgency on this team and be more versatile in his use of players. Ponder want so much to cut loose and I think he is being held back a bit. What do you all think?

  236. By Bluebird7. on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Troutdaddy. What do I think? I think that Kalil, will have to show me a little more protection for Ponder more then he has so far. Ponder still has to run like a rabbit being chased by those hounds with long fangs! I think that J. Allen has now realized that there IS a border line on the field whereby he stops when chasing that QB he is trying to put the hurt on. Frazier has to put his WR’s (except Harvin)thru some additional training on how to catch a football and hang onto it. There is more but later.

  237. By NO WORRIES ! on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    OUR coaching staff SUCKS, HARVIN WILL SOON BE GONE, he already tried to get out..

  238. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply


  239. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I want to know what everyone here will say if the Vikes beat the Niners next week. Don’t bother — I already know. You will all be whining on why did the Vikings lose to Indy and barely beat Jacksonville if they could beat the Niners. You will all complain no matter what.

  240. By meswant on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I would recommend the offense comes out in hurry-up mode in the beinging & stick with it. They seem to have more success & waiting till the end of the 4th before starting does nothing for winning the game. Sure the Vikings are re-building but there is talent on this team. The coaches need to figure out what they can do to get the max out of these guys. Really like Toby out of the back-field on the screens – he has good hands & is able to get good to great yards. They should just about line him up in a slot with AP in the back field & use these guys. As for the defense…..JA does not appear to be himself – not sure if that is related to him having to split snaps or not but he does not appear to be the beast he usually is. As well, they do not appear to be able to tackle…at all.

  241. By Spencer on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    We just lost a team that had the #1 overall pick last season, of course some of us are a little disappointed!

  242. By Erik the Red on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Didn’t feel like reading the hundreds of posts, (sorry if that seems arrogant), but I’m not gonna judge too much until I see how the Vikes are with Simpson and Wright back. It would help if they had some more options to throw to, and I’d like to see how Wright is in a regular season game.

  243. By JE on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Harvin isnt going anywhere.Its called a franchise tag. In the NFL if you want to keep a player you can whether he wants to stay or not.

  244. By RichardA1 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I kind of think the Vikes did’nt show up tell the last 10 minutes of the game.

  245. By JE on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I agree that until we get JSimpson back and Wright on the field its hard to see how good the offense is going to be this season. Give them some time.

  246. By RichardA1 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Can you blame some of these players who try and escape the team, Harvin? some of this stuff is unheard of for a professional team to be doing, I agree w/no worries. They haven’t been promising enough, like chickens with there heads cut off!

  247. By Parkway on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    None of us will be whining if we beat the 9ers because it will mean we played a near perfect game and scored 30+ points. Obviously our defense won’t hold them to less than 25. We’ll need at least 3 turnovers and a little more inspired play calling.

  248. By vlad19 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway, I commed your spirit, but your “must have” list is a virtual impossibility… especially the turnover part… we haven’t the secondary to pick anything from a disciplined football team like 9ers. We are holding our own this week and counting the dead afterwards.

    Ponder will throw 3 picks and get sacked 4 times if not more. We NEED to make this a running game and force 9ers into the same if we can. If Smith gets rolling and our pass rush is as Allen-anemic as they were last sunday, it is a cakewalk for 9ers.

    I see HOPE in this secondary, but Harrison on that long TD down the middle of the field, with Mistral having deep corner coverage and Harrison having nothing buy his pud in hand, did NOTHING but watch a td… now THAT was rookie, and I hope he pukes that out of his system immediately.

    Our corners are improve just with Cook and NO ASHER ALLEN. But we still need an agry and athletic bunch. Hope they can get there.

  249. By Parkway on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Yes I don’t believe we will win Vlad, this is in response to Titus thinking we will whine if we somehow beat the 9ers. My point was that it would take a near perfect game in order to do so.

  250. By Matthias on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    #21 Frazier :24-:26
    #50 Singletary during the whole video

  251. By Matthias on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier stats:

    1 sack

    20 interceptions returned for 343 yards

    2 touchdowns

    2 fumbles

    Playing time: 65 games = 5 years

  252. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Parkway, yes you will all be whining– you all have proven it time and time again. I guarantee you, after a win against San Fran, most of you will say, yeah, but next week they will lose and they got lucky, and on and on.

  253. By AJ on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I’m sorry, but this Tampa Two defense the Vikings run in OUTDATED and the most glaring is that it was only successful in Tampa because they had the players to run it, WE DONT! Erin Henderson is NOT DERRICK BROOKS. Darren Sharper said it best when he said that it is a non aggressive defense that forces FEW turnovers or chances to make turnovers. It is a smaller version of the PREVENT DEFENSE only they play it 80% of the game! I am flat out mad that they let the Colts just walk down the field and score at the end of each half ! That is unacceptable! Since the Vikings brought in this Tampa Two format in 2006 out turnovers forced is NON EXISTENT ! While the rest of the league evolves the Vikings continue to play this rotten stand on your heals defense that does nothing but lose games! If they dont change this defensive scheme they will continue to be mediocre.

  254. By GrandDaddyPurp on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    The Vikings have always been blessed with great players but have always been cursed with bad coaching.

  255. By AJ on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    The great Viking defenses of years gone by would LAUGH at the Tampa Two scheme !

  256. By GrandDaddyPurp on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I love how some people think being a D End is about getting sacks. You clearly know nothing about football.

  257. By DeerTracks. on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Titus, I sure hope Ponder and company will get the job done.

    I will suggest however, you keep an eye on Randy Moss!

  258. By QB on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Just watched the Frazier presser. I hate that he never calls anybody out for poor play. He will praise you to death for a good play and provide some milk toast excuse for poor play. Jared Allen played poorly yesterday, no run or rollout containment at all on his side and that stupid out of bounds play. Call em out like a man. We are the most predictable offense and defense in this league. Please come up with an intirely different game plan and keep some of these teams guessing. As for Ponder, I’d say average at best. His stats are way better than his play. At this point he should have 1 td and 5 int’s.

  259. By QB on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    If you go to that quick out to Percy too many times, SF will pick six that. Mix it up.

  260. By Parkway on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Amen AJ

  261. By animal26 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Can the Vikings forfeit the game against the 49ers? Because if we struggle against the colts and jags. Then I have to believe, that we have zero chance or winning this game, or even scoring a Touchdown in this game……. I predicted a 49-3 victory for the 49ers……………..

  262. By Roninmn.. on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    No sense of urgency from the coaching staff in the 4th. quarter. No emotions for bad calls, we need new coaches guys, the players are and will be o.k. Bad coaching all the way.

  263. By vikingbob136 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Reality has set in.
    We need a WR,DB,OLB,OL and more.
    I don’t see us having a winning season for a few years.
    Never has this team been this bad for so long and it will continue.
    I am already looking forward to next years draft and our position in the draft after Cleveland and Jacksonville.
    We can’t change the stupid coaching staff now. All we can do is watch and cringe next week.
    @ Titus I will have what you are drinking!

  264. By Parkway on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Its the people who think that those who criticize aren’t “true fans” because we don’t like the way OUR team is being managed. It’s really the opposite. Clearly they don’t understand what it’s like to be a TRUE FAN and BLEED PURPLE.

  265. By animal26 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    of winning*

  266. By animal26 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I doubt Mike Wobb or PA will read this, but they shouldn’t even bother doing that winning formula thing they do each week. Because with who the Vikings have, there is no formula, that can help them win. Might as well take the week off, like the Vikings should. Save the embarrassment, that will fall upon our beloved purple and gold.

  267. By Roninmn.. on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    The writing is on the wall for the coaching staff this year. Next year we will have new coaches if they can’t turn this around.

  268. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply


  269. By OTKalil2012 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    There are a few things that might be an advantage if the Vikings were to incorporate them against the 49ers…

    Not saying they will win the game…But might make the game more interesting…

    Seeing is they stunk up the place with their slow and methodical pace yesterday when time was running short…

    Why not work on the “no huddle” offense this week…And surprise the 49ers with a high tempo game…

    Get rid of Aromashudo and Jenkins…Jenkins has lost 2 steps…Aromashudo never had a step to begin with…

    Bring in Gurley and Summers off the practice squad…Have Harvin,Burton,Gurley and Summers play in a PHYSICAL 4 receiver set…Maybe have Harvin in the backfield at the RB postion at times…

    Have Ponder throw the ball a ton in the first half…Quick 3 step drops…And going deep a few times early to loosen up the 9ers defense…

    Tell Ponder this week…If a play is not there ???…Throw that ball AWAY !!!…No holding onto it trying to make something oput of nothing…This 49ers defense is too fast…

    Then in the second half of the game…Have AP come in and see his first action…And hopefully he might be running against a somewhat ga ssed defense…Trying to keep up with the pa ss the first half…

    AP running behind a 3 TE set the second half might hammer the ball home a couple of times…And still have 3 TE’s that could catch a pa ss every so often…

    Not sure if that would work…But at least would be more creative than the first 2 games…

  270. By Mule Gas on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    SF 49ers team can just set on the sidelines and let the famous vikings play all by them selfs on the field and the glorious vikes woulds still loose.

  271. By iaVIKE on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    At least Titus is trying to be positive, cause if you read this entire thread about 95% of it is people p1ssin and moanin. Yes, it sucks that we got beat by a bad team, no true Vikes fan is gunna be happy about that, but to sit there and blame all players and coaches and call for their jobs isn’t gunna help matters at this point. Do i agree with Titus on the next game or the outcome of the season? not necessarily, but he’s not acting like the world is ending after one loss. All the “analysts” and writers have already done that to the Vikes for this year, so why the he// would fans? Hopefully this young team can bounce back from a tough road loss.

  272. By Beach Viking on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I can not believe how unrealistic some of the fans on the site are.

    The OL needs time to become elite.

    Ponder is playing well with less than a
    year of experience.

    Peterson is doing great, but still can’t be expected to carry the load yet.

    WR with exception to Percy Needs improvement, but that can’t happen over night.

    Rudolph is a 2nd yr player who is improving.

  273. By Beach Viking on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    The DL is not playing to its potential and I can see how that makes everyone upset.

    We have 1 exp LB in Greenway, 2nd yr in Henderson, and 1st yr in Brinkley.

    DB Cook has not played many games; all others are very young and 1 old vet.

    The S have no exp. Either

    This is called rebuilding, and it means we will play inconsistent all season.

    There is no other coach going to do any better at this point.

    And by the way I been a Vikings fan for 45 yrs. So I am not happy, but lets be realistic.

  274. By vlad19 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    OTkalil, there is some good ideas in your last post. But drastic steps are not about to be taken in week 3, and practice sqad guys are not coming up.

    As for Ponder, he hasn’t the good sense to throw a ball away – how many times did he roll WAY out of the pocket and still take the hit, in fact couple times as sacks. His head gets to swimming in all the overwhelming of the moment. He is NOT a cool customer. AND he is afraid to throw the ball downfield – in 2 weeks he hasn’t thrown the ball past 12 yards but about 6-7 times.

    Living on that short carp, allowing teams to play 8-9 in box and STILL capably defend against the pass is suicide. The gameplan is created for the soldiers that are fighting – don;t think for a second that anyone thinks Ponder has mid range to deep range abilities – he doesn’t.

    The “fans” of Ponder will talk about a 75% comp pct, but I point out WHY he can’t win in this league. Light arm and panicky and ready feet, he doesn’t even set on most of his throws, he drifts through them.

    The announcers talked a lot about Frazier calling Ponder a “manager” of the game – and that is NOT a winner. Winners want more.

    So do fans.

  275. By odark30 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    @Titus……….You are just an attention grabbing antagonist……..You go opposite of everyone else just draw attention to yourself. If people think a team will win… say loss. Predict a loss… say win. Its too bad I cant ignore your posts. really.

  276. By Parkway on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Yes let’s be like Frazier and take the “positives” from the game.

    -AP didn’t blow either of his knees out
    -We were ONLY flagged 11 times for 105 yards
    -Nobody died
    -Everyone remembered to wear their jerseys and pads

    Alright good job team!

  277. By Beach Viking on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I hope the guys who whine about this team perform as well at their own job as they expect from the players on this team

  278. By OTKalil2012 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply


    If Frazier had the command he had last season…I might agree that “drastic steps” might not be taken at the WR position…

    But the truth is…Spielman is in charge of player personal now…And if he can get rid of an ineffective million dollar player contract this year…Like he has (possibly) seen in Jenkins…Spielman might do just that…

    If it was time all over again for the Vikings to cut down to the 53 man roster…And Gurley was on the team during the final cut…And Spielman had to chose 2 WR’s…And his choices were..Aromashudo,Jenkins, or the young Gurley he wanted last season…

    Who would have been choosen to stay with the team by Spielman ???…

    Just saying…

  279. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I know we need work and I know last Sunday’s loss was disappointing. But to whine and cry does what? I am perplexed over that, really– someone help me with that attitude. Many, if not most, of us are in the one percent club like these players and coaches are, yet they go on with their jobs. Spend time on your goals and life endeavors rather than waste all your precious life moments complaining– you are not doing one iota to change anything. If you really want to be heard, take out a whole page of the Sunday paper and tell the coach what should be done– create a petition– do something big and constructive if you are so sure you know a better way. Otherwise, calm down. There a a lot of positives to this season so far.

  280. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    NOT in the one percent club– my bad– see, I am catching the whiner virus many of you have, and I rambled on, making mistakes.

  281. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    AD seems to have come back fully healthy in a miraculous time frame.
    Ponder appears to be maturing and playing at a very high level.
    The O Line is better and will gel into a formidable group.
    The secondary should be the best we have had in some time, just needs a little more time.
    The Vikings will not be leaving Minnesota, at least for a few decades.
    A new one billion dollar state of the art stadium is being built, possibly the newest and best one in the whole league for at least a short while– and the newest and best out of our division for years to come.
    Oh, stop me, please. That vaccination momentarily cured me.

  282. By QB on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    OTKalil, I’m not opposed to trying anything different at WR. Our problem is we don’t really have a #1 or #2 receiver. We’ve got the best slot receiver in the league which you could consider #1 or#2, but not the way we play him always under coverage in short routs. Simpson will be a solid #2 I hope but we won’t know till he plays. I don’t have much confidence in Jenkins, however if you upgraded #1 or #2, I could see Aromashudo as a solid #3. I would love to see Gurley to see what he can do.
    On another topic I really would like to see Audie get activated and get some playing time, and I really like Rett Ellison.

  283. By OTKalil2012 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply


    You forgot to mention…Harvin is turning into one of the BEST WR’s in the game !!!

    No more migraines !!!…Good for him…

  284. By OTKalil2012 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply


    I like Cole and Ellison also…

    Both players have a certain chip on their shoulder attitude about them… ; )

  285. By odark30 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

  286. By OTKalil2012 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply


    What gets me about Aromashudo…He was supposed to be Berrian’s replacement…

    Has Aromoshudo played any better than Berrian since being on the team ???…

    1 or 2 catch average per game…Does not hold down a WR spot on any team…

    Except the Minnesota Vikings ???…

  287. By odark30 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    defense wins games…..period.

  288. By WHINER VIRUS on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    AD seems to have come back fully healthy in a miraculous time frame.
    Ponder appears to be maturing and playing at a very high level.
    Percy Harvin has not had a migraine in a year and looks great.
    The O Line is better and will gel into a formidable group.
    The secondary should be the best we have had in some time, just needs a little more time.
    The Vikings will not be leaving Minnesota, at least for a few decades.
    A new one billion dollar state of the art stadium is being built, possibly the newest and best one in the whole league for at least a short while– and the newest and best out of our division for years to come.
    Oh, stop me, please. That vaccination momentarily cured me.

  289. By WHINER VIRUS on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Thanks OT– I also forgot to display my new username.

  290. By QB on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    OTKalil, I hear ya, that’s why I say #3 receiver. He really needs solid performers to be the stars, however from what I see he catches the ball well and could be a solid #3, if he has good talent around him.

  291. By OTKalil2012 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    The Vikings appear to be in good shape on the injury front after their 23-20 loss to the Colts on Sunday, Sept. 16, in Indianapolis.

    Percy Harvin isn’t having lingering effects from cramps suffered during the Colts game, and defensive end Brian Robison (elbow) is expected to recover smoothly.

    Everyone else on the roster is healthy.

    A healthy roster could help the Vikings later in the season as other teams around the league suffer from depletion.

  292. By QB on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Keep your fingers crossed, this is as healthy as I’ve seen us early on in a season.

  293. By chris_b on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Luck hight QBR % in the league on sunday vs Titus big bad D.

  294. By chris_b on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply


  295. By sandiamond on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Must have #2 WR behind a nfl star ( Harvin). That guy hasn’t arrived yet and time will run out quickly this season if we don’t find that special talent

    let’s face it, the Ark duo didn”t work out so time for Spielman to make some sort of move(s) on the roster

    Panthers found that guy in Brandon Lafel to scorch D’s behind two man coverage on Steve Smith

  296. By vlad19 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    We could have Houston McTear and run 8.9 100, and he won’t do us anything because we have a ladies softball arm in Ponder.

    If any of the fan base thinks you can scare anyone, soften a D, chase guys down a field with a guy with Ponder’s arm, you are mistaken. If you think you can beat people up by running nothing but the short firled and crossing patterns (whcih more often than not confuses Ponder himself), then you haven’t seen REAL west coast offenses at work — Green Bay, San Francisco, to name a couple.

    “timing routes” means something if you can stretch a field, but getting 3-4 yards is far more than what is expected by this pro style offense. Our guys just can’t pull it off!

    I wish, as we all do, but our offense will only slightly improve when Simpson returns from his suspension.

    And defense, theya re laready searching their jock straps and can’t seem to find anything….

  297. By TheShield on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    people need to stop hating so much on the vikes. if ur a die hard fan u wont be complaing after every game and every comment like spencer. sure you would complain sumtimes but not this much how alot of people do on here. ponder will be a good quaterback and i know that we will atleast have a positive record this year. are schedule is pretty easy and we are getting better i see improvments already and we did change alot over the offseason. week 4 will get all the players back. and i know if we didnt have those flags (srry for spelling) we would of won and i know it. i think we will get a upset next week. we just need to work hard in practice. you never know the saints loss the giants almost lost the patirots loss..

  298. By vlad19 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Theshield, it is a football blog, it is designed for fan commentary. If you come here and do not expect to read some querrelous remarks or complaints or “idea sharing” then you must become better acquainted with sports blogs. no offense, just expect it. The nature of fandom more than anything.

    And speaking to truth is an important part of understanding what you have as a team.

    ponder will get “better”, yes, I agree – but his arm will not get strong enough to do what you want NFL QBs to do, and he will not calm his overactive mind in pass rushes to any degree. If he doesn’t get back an set, and throw off his back foot, his already soft arm will be a sad embarrassment. It is not a “complaint” in commenting, I think we will be looking for another QB with better tools, unless I see some serious change in his decision-making, because his tools are just not strong enough to bring us to any degree of real success.

    Just my opinion, but lets just keep watching! THAT much is all we can do.

  299. By odark30 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    @vlad19————–I disagree about Ponders arm being week. However, I agree that he does not throw the ball with the intent to tattoo the receiver like we have seen from many QBs in the league (Farve) sigh…….This does not mean that he cannot. .Ponder replied that the Colts took away our passing game by running a lot of cover 2. And yes we dont have a good enough receiving corp to run three deep against the cover 2. I hope this will change when Jumpin Jerome comes back. He will be able to at least beat one on one coverage often enough to put six on the board when we need it.

    Right now any team not running a cover 2 against us needs to start and after we get Jerome back Tampa 2 may be more appropriate.

  300. By BigMiddleFinger on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    A few things:

    Right now, I come down on the side of those people with a positive view of Ponder. I certainly don’t think we’ve seen enough to have strong views in the opposite direction. (I think some fans are infected with ESPN thinking and assume we need a top 5 QB pick. Note that Brady, Brees, and Rodgers weren’t.)

    The same people who are complaining about the lack of deep throws would be complaining about the INTs that would result.

    From what I’ve heard, right now it’s about the inability of receivers to separate.

    Lastly, of the things to complain about on this team, Ponder is not near the top of the list. When some people habitually complain about a QB (particularly one with good #s), I tend to think they don’t know what else to look for in a team.

  301. By sandiamond on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    WR teammate duo more than likely a bust
    CB teammate duo could be a bust pending Blanton

    Spielman has to find a way to grab better talent somehow to compete in the NFL

  302. By Spencer on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Gotta trade Jared Allen…

    Everson Griffen wouldn’t be much worse, clearly Allen has lost a step.

    FACT: JA wouldn’t have made the sack that E.Griffen got in the 4th quarter because of his lack of athleticism.

    Just think of the talent we could get in return? We are a legit #1 WR away from having an explosive offense.

  303. By arthur on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I think that peterson should have got more then 16 carries i think he should get around 25 but im not the coach i think ponder is doing really good I cant wait until Jerome Simpson gets to play then I predict we will have more TDs :)

  304. By odark30 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    @Spencer———-i am going to recant on a comment I made earlier about defenses winning games. There were quite a few top ten teams in the league last year with bottom ranking defenses. Cover 2 stops our passing game cold. We DO need another legit WR. Will Jumpin Jerome be enough? Probably not. I miss the days of Chris Carter and Randy Moss.

  305. By northwoodsv2 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    “I hope the guys who whine about this team perform as well at their own job as they expect from the players on this team”

    Excuse us for expecting a high degree of competency out of people who play a game for a job and make more in one season than we will earn in a lifetime.

    I make $60,000 a year for putting people back together after a stroke, heart attack, or a joint replacement. There are athletes in the NFL who make that much or more per game for catching a ball, tackling a guy, or throwing the ball to someone else.

  306. By sandiamond on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    the writing appears to be on the wall………

    fans not concerned about Jared’s sack record this year. What does he bring for a team effort — Last year it was a bright spot during a horrible season so fans had something to feel good about

  307. By WHINER VIRUS on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    northwoods, you are not their boss, nor their client- if their performance distresses you that much, it’s simple: stop watching. There is a lot more in life than football.

  308. By Spencer on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    By Spencer on May 7, 2012 | Reply
    For a 16 game season, I would take CJ over AP only because AP.

    Wow, dam was I wrong. I may be great, but even I can make a mistake.

  309. By Utley on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    @ Spencer

    Its a no brainer.. This team and the future of this team does not benefit from Jared Allen being on this team. I loved watching him in purple but its time for him to go. Get a younger player and/or draft pics.

  310. By odark30 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Lets ask Mike———–Hey Wobs…..
    If cover 2 completely shuts down our passing game, can our coaches do anything about it or do we need to join the rest of the winning teams in the league with legit receiving corp. Teams can pass all day against us… why dont we return the favor and focus less on defense and more on a high powered passing game? I mean can we realistically keep up simply running the ball when we are in a passing league?

  311. By Spencer on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    That should read…”because AP is a little injury prone.”

  312. By Troutdaddy on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Again- Ponder is not the problem. The guy is level-headed and is performing well. He does NOT have a “Light Arm” as Vlad suggests. He can throw and throw long and with gusto. Problem is that he hasn’t had to. He is more focussed on making a good throw with what he has to throw to. Big difference there. Right now too many plays are being called for too few people. Our coaching staff isn’t providing much passion to the team or fans either. This whole no-emotion stuff on the sidelines is really ticking the fans off. I get it that Frazier is a deep thinker and great at evaluation in the moment, but that does not fuel the players, nor does it energize anyone watching. So- I am calling the coaches out. It starts with the leaders. They cast the shadow that others glean from and if they can’t show the passion then why should they expect anything different from their players? All of my family are 49er fans and they love the fact that their head coach is SO passionate. Take a lesson there Frazier. Just saying that it can’t hurt to get a transfusion of attitude… Here is a quote for you. “I’ve upped my attitude, now up yours!” That goes to all of you fans who are throwing this team away and it is only 2 games in. Take a dose of purple and cheer louder and give this team a chance to gel. Like I said a few blogs ago- we have already one 1/3 of the games we did last year. That is a good start after 2 games…

  313. By Troutdaddy on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    oops “Won” not one… we have already won 1/3 of the games we did last year …stupid typo…

  314. By monroe on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    As a long time viking fan, (1967) I have to be realistic. The vikings are a long ways from being a contender. And unfortunately Peterson or Harvin, will have decline waiting for the team to emerge into a contender. There are just to many things that are broken.

  315. By Tburbs on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Once we are at full strength I would love to see Simpson, Harvin, Wright, along with Rudolph split out… We need some speed on the field. By the way TroudDaddy is absolutely right.

  316. By 03 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    yea, if Ponder can throw vertically.

  317. By 03 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is the problem.

  318. By elvis on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    O.K. Spencer, are u a pack, bear, or lions fan. I’m vikes for life, good or bad, along with many others. If all you can do is rip this team when they’re bad, alotta fans don’t wanna hear your garbage. U say our team is garbage? Your words are garbage. If you were sittin next to me at a game spewing your garbage, I’d take a big dump on you.

  319. By 03 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    If you are talking about it starts with the leaders, I would say it starts with Rick Spielman, General manager, who seems to care so much about the business, how to franchise the player, not so much on the football game, which should be the priority. It is NOT OK to pretend Ponder is good, it’s OK to admit Ponder is not good.

  320. By odark30 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    @elvis———-unfortunately he has a point. The best teams in the league last season had some of the worst ranked defenses. Its a passing league. Sure you gotta have good RBs but if you are gonna win games you need elite receivers not sack records.

  321. By sandiamond on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    03, just the luck of the draw and Ponder we landed. 2010 Qb’s went too quickly in the draft. Many more Holes to fill throughout this roster cant focus on the QB only as Fred Dogg says

  322. By 03 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    You are right, but if the QB can’t throw the ball, we will have to run the game, which is too predicted – digging a hole.

  323. By Spencer on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply


    Im not even trying to be negative, just speaking the truth.

  324. By Spencer on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Hard to get excited when the team doesnt look that much better from last season.

  325. By ruffkutt on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Our Offensive Play caller is absolutely worthless- all predictable – Holy Sh!t president Bush could do a better job. It’s time to unleash MBT; he’s the best QB we have. Yes I said it. The coaching staff lacks passion and fire thats why the time is always so flat. It’s simply poor leadership

  326. By Alex on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder has yet to throw an interception has thrown for over 500 yards and has I think a 75% completion rate. How can you say he is the problem? Its the kids second year he will get better and the Vikings will get better as the year goes on.
    Stop ripping on Ponder he is better than some of the quarterbacks out there and is doing fine we don’t need anyone else.

    We need better receivers that much is clear, I have mixed emotions about trading Jared Allen as some people are talking about here. If we do I think it needs to be for picks alone and alot of picks so that we can continue to build through the draft. I think within two years we will be back in the playoff race its all just part of rebuilding right now and allowing Ponder to get better and better.
    If we had a field stretching WR I think it could make a huge difference for this team.

  327. By Spencer on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    LOL. MBT looked extremely average in the pre-season against guys that either got cut or made the practice squad.

    Seriously, what do people see in this guy????

  328. By odark30 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    @Alex——————we need 2 field stretching WRs.

  329. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Team looks significantly better than last year. Last year, the team would never have come back after the jags scored with 20 seconds left– score to tie, and then go to overtime. Last year, the team would never have been down 20-6 in the fourth quarter on the road, come back to tie with seconds left, and almost go to overtime. This team is young, has heart, and a lot of solid to becoming solid players– give it a little time to come together. You microwave mentality heads, go live in your digital world of one word thoughts (text, one, zero, or zero, one) and leave the real world process to real men. BAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  330. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer plays too much World Of Warcraft to know reality.

  331. By BMF on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Two 4th quarter comebacks in 2 weeks, and 03 picks Ponder to bash on. Brilliant analysis!

  332. By Spencer on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    The o-line has improved but still cant p a s s block.

    The WR situation has gotten worse.

    The D-line doesnt get sacks anymore.

    LBers cant cover.

    The secondary improved, but they still cant cover.

  333. By Spencer on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Is Carlson still hurt? Why dont we use him?

  334. By 03 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    It’s time to get MBT in the field. He is the exciting potential, not Ponder who is precious investment of corporate business.

  335. By 03 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    “Team looks significantly better than last year”….. what….. Have you been watching the games?

  336. By Spencer on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder isn’t even the problem. Who does he have to throw to??? The WR’s arent getting open!

  337. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    03, are you still in 03? Of course I have been watching the games– we are a better team than last year, no question. Remember our first four or five games last year? Second half, specifically? Air to ground missiles for three and outs and then punt for the third and fourth quarters last year– this year, we battle back at the second half– this team shows great promise and resiliency- hopefully some of the coaching improve to capture more of that heart, but we are better. You may want to get a new prescription for your spectacles.

  338. By sandiamond on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Offense still in pre-season mode along with Carlson due to injury. six mins to go and there was no other choice but to run it methodically

    hopefully Musgrave can prove his worth a little additionally each week as the youngsters gain nfl exp

  339. By RichardA1 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Its got to be something in the system, a coach? the head coach? owner? something is giving them a unbalanced attack, things just aren’t clicking, to unsure of themselves.

  340. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    GUYS! It’s game two after a 3-13 season. We are 1-1 and almost came back to win the second game– both games we came back in the second half from being down– no need to call the fire department or department of defense!

  341. By odark30 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply


  342. By Frederick Jones on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply


    lol dude!

  343. By Frederick Jones on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    @Awesome Beyond Belief,

    Did you get your name from the Petra song “Beyond Belief.”

  344. By vlad19 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    To big middle finger – I have plenty to talk about as ‘separation” in teh NFL can be half step. Ponder does NOT have the arm nor the TRUST to make that throw. THAT is on a QB.

    It appears you are a “stat guy” – great, but If the defenses in last two weeks intercepted every REAL oppoortunity he would have 4-5 right now instead of 4-5 DROPS by D-fenders. And one of his TDs should have been one of those happy Ints…

    And if you want to be happy with a west coast offense that has NO downfield success, you are talking about your 5 yard field that makes us so predictable and so bad.

    That again is Ponder, gameplanning for a guy who cannot make the big throws and doesn’t trust himself to make those throws…. let’s talk about his % when he tries to fit it in like the good NFL QB can. We will be counting the ints like grapes on a vine – cuz he doesnt have the arm to do it. And undoubtedly doesn’t have the trust. You even suggested this in your remarks about the long pass game.

  345. By vikingology1 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I happened to be strolling p@ssed the Vikings offices when I overheard Musgrave and Frazier talking-this is what I heard: “Hey Les, I have a great game plan for the 49ers, how about we implement the same game plan as we did with the Jags and the Colts, it worked once, it just might work again.

  346. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I find it hilarious how schizophrenic most of you bloggers are. All off season and preseason you are calling for 5 to 8 wins maximum, telling me I am crazy to predict 10-6 and the playoffs. Now, you are all yelling and angry we are 1-1. So, you were secretly expecting 12-4 and the Superbowl when you were predicting 6 wins a few weeks ago? You guys are so inconsistent and your mood changes like paper drifting across a windy parking lot. Get a grip. Vikes will be fine and meet or exceed your original expectations– so why all the whining?

  347. By Awesome Beyond Belief on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    No Fred, I ascertained my username through deep reflection of how others see me.

  348. By vlad19 on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    I find the high emotion about our being 1-1 and that being so promising… hard to believe actually.

    It was the Jags and the Colts… what did they have, combined 5 wins last year?

    We are playing a real football team, at home on Sunday. I HOPE Ponder throws for 300 and 4 TDs, but I am saying right here, it ain’t happening.

    I will pick my numbers right here. Not being a doomsayer, just speaking to the shortcomings of the QB and the game plan around this team

    This is a guess, not an indictment!
    ponder’s line: 15 – 32 169 yds with 3 Ints, and 4 sacks.

    He is not as good as people think, and stats don’t tell you half of what is wrong with him. 75% on the HIGHEST % pass game, throws under 5-6 yds, relying almost entirely on the throw and catch and not a capable downfiled arm. HE is afraid to make those throws. Ask yourself this – how many have you seen him UNDERthrow??? and how many have you seen him OVERTHROW?

    Our defense must cover Davis and Crabtree! Davis might get 120 yds from TE spot! Jared Allen should have fun, cause this is going to be a rodeo!

  349. By BMF on Sep 17, 2012 | Reply

    Vlad, I’m not really a stat guy, but stats aren’t entirely meaningless either. You talk a lot of words, but there’s really nothing to substantiate them other than “trust”. First off, how do you know what he trusts? Second, you’re assuming he should trust them when there may be no basis for that. Third, if your criteria for being open is a half step, you’ll get more hardship than success. And that’s for any quarterback. See my reference to Favre. How did that work out for him in the most crucial of moments. He only won one Super Bowl – and if you recall, they didn’t win that one because of his play. You have more opinions than anything else. Again, this team has bigger issues.

  350. By LarsonFamily on Sep 18, 2012 | Reply

    I’ve been assoicated with the Vikings ever since the summer training camp. The team we have are incredible good and they are the youngest teams in NFL. They are playing really hard and I dont understand why you vikings fans are so angry with the lost we had against the Colts. We are number 1 at being the youngest teams and we beat the Jaguars. We almost came back and beat the Colts but we were 12 seconds short. I can not fathom of the facts that its the coachings fault, players fault. There is no fault in that it is just every single players are new to their offense schemes and defense schemes except for few players such as Jared Allen, and whoever is on the team the last several years.

    The truth is, it is not Ponder’s fault. It is not Defense’s fault, or Offensive Lines fault.

    Number 1. I’ve watched where the WRs goes and they couldn’t even get open. Why? Harvin has been doubled which is one from CB, one is from SS and the FS has his eyes on Harvin. Ponder knew throwing deep will get him INT immediately. He is playing safe so he did tried to throw to other WR such as Jenkins, Amsourandu. Now here is the problem with these two, Jenkins is slow and the linebackers is already on to him along with the CB. Amsourandu always get the wrong routes and when Ponder sees that he runs out of bounds. So would you prefer him to throw the ball to these two anyway and knowing he’ll get INT? No!. Ponder has already committed to have at least 70 percent complete passing and he has done that for the last 2 games. He is better than Peyton Manning which he has got 3 int in 1st Quarter. Ponder is also better than Tom Brady which he has 46 percent passing with his bad throw that got him an INT. Again Tom Brady does not have a good WRs and he is not going to have a good year. Ponder is playing better than Tom Brady because we also don’t have good WRs like Tom Brady has. Ponder is smarter than Tom Brady because hes trying to play safe and Tom is not. He is just throwing the ball whether his WRs open or not.

    Number 2. Jared Allen has been doubled way to much because of what happened last year. He had 22 sacks and every other teams studied the way Jared does during the game and that made every other teams gets better at blocking him. Of course you can’t expect Jared to get 22 sacks every year. Nobody has and even Strahnan, the DE from New York Giants couldn’t even get over 10 sacks when he first got his 22 sacks. After he got the 22 sacks he went down to 8 sacks. That is because every team stuided him and it made it harder for him to repeat it. Now its Jared Allen, you think nobody is gonna find a way to block him? Of course they will because they want to protect their QBs. Now you are saying you want to trade him? Dont be a such an fool he is still good. The reason Ed Griffen got it because nobody thought he could escape and get the QB because the OFFLINE were to busy paying attention to Jared and Robinson. Of course someone from our Defense Line is gonna come out and get the QB. They dont care much about that but the only thing they cared is Jared Allen and Robinson. So hats off to these 2 teams that got it figured out how to stop Jared and Robinson.

    Number 3. Our Defense back are extremely young and they are not used to fast players in NFL level like they do in College. Chris Cook only allowed 11 yards with 2 catches, and Harrison Smith is trying to fit in the defense schemes we have. He is not used to our defense but he is getting it. I predicted him to be Ed Reed in few years. Our DBs are doing okay but not great. I give them a 5 from 1 to 10. They are playing way better than last year first 2 games to tell you the truth.

    Number 4. I watched and hears alot of staff complaining about our Linebackers. These folks are not doing their jobs which they missed tackles, they blitz when they weren’t supposed to and they never really help the DB when it is a passing game. Chad Greenway needs to step up little more even though he is a great tacklers but he needs to be out there helping with the DB more so when any QB sees the Mid field all clogged up it puts more pressures on them. It never happened and the QB sees alot of empty spots on the middle field because all of our LBS are to busy blitzing or going the wrong routes. QB sees that and it became huge advatange for them. That is the reason why Luck got the 40 yards so quick in less than 50 seconds. LBs should be out there helping the DB and not worrying about helping the DLINE. Brinkley does okay and Henderson should be the one that blitz because he can’t read pass plays. Chad Greenway can and he should be out there covering the middle field so that dbs can focus on their WRs. The defense I’ve been watching they used 4 linebackers, 2 for blitzes and 2 for running with the WRs routes to clogged up the field. Peyton Manning got 3 ints because of that. Even 49ers has done it too and they became a powerful defense already because of the way they use the LBS.

    Number 5. Dont give up on the Vikings they are doing the best they can and they are working their butt off to get better. I still have faith and even if they do lose they will learn the mistakes and they will go back in the room and study the plays of what they do wrong. They have been working days and night learning all the different plays, defenses and offenses they used and they are improving slowly.

    Think POSITIVE! They will do fine. Trust me.

  351. By LarsonFamily on Sep 18, 2012 | Reply

    Also I got to add something..

    Last year Overall NFL Rankings in first 2 games.

    Passing Yards 28th, Rushing Yards 8th, OPP Passing Yards 26th OPP Rushing Yards 4th.

    This year Overall NFL Rankings in first 2 games.

    Passing Yards 13th, Rushing Yards 14th, OPP Passing Yards 10th OPP Rushing Yards 12th.

    The Passing has improved alot from last year first 2 games. Rushing usually always the same because we have Adrian Peterson and he will get us top 10 at the end of the season for sure so I am not worried at all about our runningback.

    Look at the defense we’ve had this year compared to last year. Imgaine how young these players are and how good they are this year to last year. They improved alot from OPP Passing yards 26th rank to 10th. Our Defense Backs did their jobs and they are getting better every game they played in. Now you can see our OPP Rushing Yards went from 4th to 14th. Its all because they doubled team Jared Allen and Robinson. I am not really so worried about running against our defense line but the most important key I am concerned about is our Linebackers. You know Erin Hendreson is in 3rd for Defensivie Leader in tackles. He is a brillant linebackers but he is only good for blitzing, or get the RB down. He is still confused when it goes to passing game. Chad Greenway is supposed to be up there helping the DB so it cuts off their passing game. I know we still managed to keep the passing yards close to 200 or under than we were last year.

    Again we will be fine. Have faith and things will go in our way. Plus I am not saying we will beat the 49ers but you never know. As long Randy Moss dont get a Touchdown on our turf I will be happy. :) Otherwise it should be a good game even though there is alot of veterans on their team than we have on our team. If its a close game then it should be no excuse for the 49ers because we have bunch of young players on our team right? Be happy we are as competitive as they are even though we have such a young players.

    49ers 31 Vikings 24. Ponder will get 2 touchdown in the game. I predict Jared will get his first sack of the game.

    Final notes. When we get Jerome Simpson off of his supsensions, he will be a great addition to our team. He is a threat and we will have 2 WRs. That will slow down their defense LBs and they will start leaving the middle field open for Jenkins or Randuloph to be open because they will be watching Harvin and Simpson the whole game.

    Good luck folks.

  352. By Matthias on Sep 18, 2012 | Reply

    I want to see Jarius Wright and Greg Childs( out for the season ).

  353. By Mule Gas on Sep 18, 2012 | Reply

    SF 9ers>>44…….Vikings>>3……Titus>>>Double 00….

  354. By Erik the Red on Sep 18, 2012 | Reply

    Posted this ages ago, but people seem to forget two of the Vikes receivers haven’t played a game yet, so for all we know that might not be a problem. Y’all just need to chill out, it’s only 2 games, sure we seem to be destined to lose against the 49ers, but sometimes the underdog wins, all teams play differently, maybe the Vikes will play in a way that will stop the 49ers from completely destroying them. I’ll hold any doubts until after game 5 of the regular season

  355. By Frederick Jones on Sep 18, 2012 | Reply

    Erik the Red,

    You are correct, my brother. There are 14 games yet.

  356. By dee jay born on Sep 18, 2012 | Reply

    it’s only 2 games,but i still get mad and panic after every loss.that’s just me.i’m not concerned about Jared Allen.he’ll start making plays that he’s missing concern is the offense.i’m not sure if the Vikes are just getting used to Musgraves system or are they just that predictable on offense.i think the dumb penalties is passed the Vikes now.time to play ball now…..P.S. …..R.I.P. Steve Sabol

  357. By Old School on Sep 18, 2012 | Reply

    Bottom line:

    Our secondary is one of the worse in league. PERIOD!

    That has been the case for the last 5 years!

  358. By coach mark on Sep 18, 2012 | Reply

    for all those who keep saying have faith, c-mon man we just got be by the colts, who sucked last and are suppose to this yr, be lucky to win 2 maybe 3 games this yr, “we just got beat by the stinking colts” how lousy is that

  359. By Meesta Alex on Sep 18, 2012 | Reply

    Well, it probably won’t be a nice win, if we win. But the 49ers should watch out.. One thing the Vikes should do is to mix up the attack. I’d love to see Toby sneak into the game to fool somebody. Secondary needs to improve, Allen needs to step up, and so does the linebackers. Henderson had a great game, I’d love to see Audie Cole come in for a few plays and see what he can do. One thing I noticed was that the O-line was terrible Week 1 1st half, but 2nd half they improved greatly, so there is motivation. Team is in rebuild mode, let’s see if this conversation picks up when Simpson come back.

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