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Too Many Turnovers Lead To Vikings Loss vs. Chargers

Posted by Mike Wobschall on August 24, 2012 – 10:28 pm

Hoping to ride the momentum generated from a strong showing against the Buffalo Bills a week ago, the Vikings offense opened Week 3 of the 2012 preseason with the ball and designs of setting the tempo for their exhibition game against the San Diego Chargers. Instead of creating tempo, the Vikings offense generated too many turnovers and wasn’t able to gain any rhythm in a 12-10 loss at Mall of America Field on Friday night.

“We never really got a rhythm,” Vikings QB Christian Ponder said. “When we get the ball first in a game, it’s always important for us to set a tone. Not only did we go three-and-out on the first drive, but on the second drive as well. It started off with an incompletion on the very first play, and that set a tone for the rest of the game.”

There were flashes of efficiency for the Vikings. Ponder found WR Percy Harvin deep down the right side for a gain of 40 yards and FB Matt Asiata flashed a bit in the 2nd half, but overall the offense didn’t perform up to par after a standout performance last week that left many optimistic in the young group’s potential.

“We made plays,” Ponder explained. “We ran the ball well. Just four turnovers, and penalties at inopportune times make it tough to overcome. It’s frustrating when we only put, for us (first-team offense), three points on the board. We ended up scoring a touchdown at the end, so ten points. It was a little disappointing, but it shows us that we have a lot to work on. We wish we would’ve performed like we did the first two weeks, but we know we have the capability to do so, we just gotta get better.”

Ponder is the first to claim responsibility for the offense’s shortcomings. Asked if pressure was getting to him – he was sacked three times in the 1st half and five times overall – Ponder was quick to point out he shared some of the blame for the pressure.

“I got myself in trouble. We talked about it on the sidelines,” Ponder said. “I was getting back on the top of my drop and just sitting there. That puts a lot of pressure on our (offensive) tackles. I could do a lot better job of stepping up, moving forward…It’s on me. I’ve got to get better in the pocket. Usually I don’t do that. I don’t know why it happened this game. It’s something to work on in practice and get better at.”

Ponder is likely too hard on himself, but the Vikings can take solace in the fact they have a QB who takes pride in his on-field work, takes blame when things don’t go right and is determined to fix them the next week in practice. Expect Ponder and Co. to do just that and have a solid week of practice leading up to their Week 1 home opener against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

In addition to too many sacks allowed, the Vikings also committed too many turnovers. The Vikings saw three drives end in San Diego territory, including two inside the red zone and one inside the 5. Another drive ended via an INT after the offense had driven 47 yards in just 4 plays. Those turnovers will cover up many of the stretches in which the Vikings offense was moving with efficiency and explosion.

“Probably the thing that defines (the game) the most for us were the mistakes,” Vikings Head Coach Leslie Frazier said. We turned the ball over four times. Whether it’s the preseason or regular season, it’s hard to win in our League when that happens.”

It looked as if the Vikings would be able to overcome their turnover-riddled performance and emerge with a victory after QB Sage Rosenfels drove the offense down the field and found Asiata for a 1-yard TD. That score and the resulting PAT by K Blair Walsh gave the Vikings a 10-9 lead with 1:54 to play. But Chargers reserve QB Jarrett Lee put together a drive that was aided by a Vikings personal foul penalty and ended with a 45-yard game-winning FG as time expired by Nick Novak.

The highlight of the night for the Vikings was the performance by their first-team defense, which suffocated the Chargers offense. Granted, San Diego held out many of its starters, but the Vikings did exactly what they should have done under the circumstances. San Diego was just 3 of 16 (19%) on 3rd downs, they gained just 2.8 yards per rushing attempt and the Vikings sacked Chargers QBs six times.

LBs Jasper Brinkley and Erin Henderson clearly had their best performances of 2012, combining for 9 tackles. Brinkley had 2.0 sacks and Henderson was a disruptive force on multiple occasions. DE Jared Allen was up to his old tricks with a pair of sacks and three of his four tackles resulting in a loss of yardage for San Diego. The Vikings also got a sack from DT Fred Evans, who started in place of an injured Letroy Guion.

“Our first defense, they played extremely hard,” Frazier said. “They kept us in the game. Real good on third down. Didn’t come up with the turnovers that we would like. But I thought our first unit did everything that we asked.”

The Vikings move to 1-2 this preseason and will conclude their exhibition struggle on Thursday by traveling to Houston for a contest against the Texans, with kickoff slated for 6:00 p.m. CT.


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126 Responses to “Too Many Turnovers Lead To Vikings Loss vs. Chargers”

  1. By CA_Viking_Fan on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    Bad week of practice?

  2. By shawn6464 on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    Im starting to question Musgrave and his coaching ability. Yea turnovers but good grief the offense was lethargic just like Musgrave.

    Nobody on this team has any emotion … its always like a day in the park non chalant passive lethargy …

    SICK SINGLETERRY ON THEM WAKE THEM UP !!!!

    It like someone put Xanax in the gatorade ….

  3. By shawn6464 on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    who is a leader on this team???

    I see none …

    Patriots … Tom Brady gets upset when his offense plays like we play
    Ravens … Ray Lewis … need I say more?
    Giants … have a couple of DLmen who get vocal
    Saints … Drew Brees yells at under performer’s

    we have no leaders just 1/2 asleep little concern … PATHETIC

  4. By shawn6464 on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    Does Musgrave take Ambien during the day? He always looks like he’s 3 seconds from falling asleep.

    Im not sure Musgrave has enough motivation to lift his hands over his head, let alone challenge an under achiever

  5. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    Where is the eye of the Tiger?

  6. By Richard1A on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    I agree, sick Singeltary on them, snap them out of it! That’s funny, no leaders, but when there winning there is. They need discipline, seemed to loose. Make them walk the plank, throw them overboard! Unmotivated, for this they get millions of dollars a game! a day of double days, straight from Mankato is in line!

  7. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    Give me their salaries and I would run in for three touchdowns.

  8. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    Eye of the Tiger, not eye of the preseason.

  9. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    Blog articles should be a paragraph or two to set the tone for discussion, not a full length New York Times editorial.

  10. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    I heard the one announcer tonight say he didn’t want to be a Negative Nellie. Was that Fred Jones calling the game?

  11. By Go vikes on Aug 24, 2012 | Reply

    Overall i thought we did great sadly we had some injuries hopefully those guys make a speedy recovery at the same time its preseason we needed to have a game like this where the offense stalls that way we can see where we went wrong and you know make some adjustments but overall a good preseason game which will hopefully help us have a better regular season because we’ll MAKE SOME OFFENSIVE ADJUSTMENTS shouts to vikings nation

  12. By Spencer on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    The starters knew they were gonna be playing against scrubs so they didnt give it their best effort.

    Ain’t nothing wrong with that since its the pre-season.

  13. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, should we put Webb or Sage at number two?

  14. By Spencer on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    If Ponder goes down in the middle of a game, put Webb in.

    If Ponder gets hurt for an extended period of time, put Sage in.

  15. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Should Ponder be the starter or Sage? Or the Hyphen?

  16. By Spencer on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is the Commander in Chief.

    And the Hyphen is John-David-Booty 2.0

  17. By HCG. on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    NO HYPHEN!! Calm. NO LAWFIRM!!!

  18. By HCG. on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    sucks we lost,pre season though…

  19. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    That Hypen will be in the HOF one day. Mark my words.

  20. By HCG. on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    no thumbs up here, D!CKS.

  21. By HCG. on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Sure hope so ..

  22. By HCG. on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    this blog need thumbs. I AM out. nite nite. Love to the purple.

  23. By habs001 on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    The fans of the vikings must realize that the team is in a rebuild mode after many wrong moves made by management the last 2 years…Last year the vikings were one of the worst teams in the league and while we expect improvement this year the overall talent level and experience level does not match most of the other teams in the league…It is good to support your team but some viking fans dont live in the reality of the situation and think this is a playoff team and i have even read some fans think sb contender…

  24. By DrinkHeavyVikingFans on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Well it looks like our “prevent offense” is back. Defense and special teams looked OK though SD wasn’t playing many starters. I got a feeling this will be a season of many excuses and promises to “get things fixed”. We’ll see..

  25. By sandiamond on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Pelissero_Injuries_clouding_several_spots_as_Vikings_first_cuts_loom082512

  26. By packhater on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    WTF was Ponder looking at when he threw that pick?
    Yes we we see Joe Webb at some point this year.
    Yes Frazier will be fired this year.
    and Yes we will be very much be in the Matt Barkley sweepstakes.

  27. By packhater on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Jon Gruden is what this team needs.

  28. By Jeffbleedspurple on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    @Shawn6464: We do have 1 leader on this team, but he was standing on the sidelines in street clothes. Starters against backups and the starters leave the half with their tails stuck between their legs, PATHETIC, AWFUL. The game even made my beer taste bad, can’t really say anything good about Allens play either, he was lined up against an undrafted free agent. Harvin made a nice catch, anything else positive to say about last nights game? I can’t think of any.

  29. By dieseldog on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    I’m afraid we’re in for another long year.
    Players getting hurt first in “walk thru” practices and now in pre game warmups? Ponder throwing “ducks and floaters” that take forever to get to the receivers. All we have with him is another Brooks Bollinger with the additon of a big ego who thinks he is better than he is
    .
    Penalties, fumbles, lack of emotion, players singing and giggling along the sidelines. And, where do those cheerleaders come from? Of all the beautiful women in Mn. that is all we can come up with?

  30. By packhater on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    If we’re going to give up that many sacks, it might be wise to keep Sage and Hyphen both on the roster.

  31. By packhater on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    What we just witnessed folks was the Vikings losing at home to San Diego’s second string.

  32. By dieseldog on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    I’m with packhater – bring in Gruden!

  33. By Spencer on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Dam y’all need to calm down.

    As Chris Johnson said last week….

    “lol pre-season”

  34. By Spencer on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Its been 3 pre-season games, and Jairus Wright is still stuck on zero catches.

    Scrub?

  35. By VegasVike on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    No eye of tiger, just eye of newt.

  36. By packhater on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    how much action will the first team see at houston ?

  37. By VA Vike Fan on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t wanna hear “oh its just preseason.” We’re not a team that can afford to play poorly for ANY game. It was our first string against SD’s second string. PATHETIC. And what makes me the most upset is when listening to Frazier’s presser he’s actually BACKING this teams play. “Both teams played hard, I’m proud of our effort…etc.” If our head coach is proud that our starters can only put 3 points on the board in 3 quarters then I have major concerns w/ our coaching staff.

  38. By VA Vike Fan on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Back to baseball I go..My Baltimore Orioles are alive and well right now. I refuse to get all worked up over another subpar Vikings team this yr.

  39. By JE on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    I thought Webb played a solid game. He had things rolling and then a fumble. Just like last week, threw a thirty yard strike to S Burton and fumble.There is no question in my mind who is the backup QB and if Ponder dont play any better than that give him the hook and put JWebb in. UNLEASH JOE WEBB!!

  40. By Parkway on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Hope you guys are happy that we drafted an OT at number 4, he can’t even block. It will be great seeing blackmon and Claiborne tearing it up while we watch Kalil run after the DE that just blew by him.

  41. By packhater on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    No OT is worth the 4th overall pick. Sorry, thats just the cold hard truth.

  42. By Richard1A on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Cut them all, bring them out to sea and overboard they go! we deserve good quality football! that was’nt professional, I’ve seen pick up games played in the street played more professional then what I seen last night!

  43. By packhater on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    I just think this whole west coast offense stuff is a thing of the past. It’s way too predictable nowadays.

  44. By Bluebird7 on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    @Titus You are correct on the preseason games! Last night was a waste of time for everybody
    Ponder states it was his fault! Some of it was, But you will get ‘em next time huh!

    @JE Webb didn’t cause the fumble on that play you mentioned. He did connect better this time, didn’r he.

  45. By Parkway on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    @packhater: You are correct on both accounts

  46. By QB on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    I’d like to see Walsh more consistant on field goals. It doesn’t do any good to drive the ball 300 yards down the fairway, then pull an 8 iron left of the green. Somebody will always take your money when you do.

  47. By JE on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Man are we going to miss JSimpson the first three games! This offense looked terrible. Big Fred Evans looked solid. Way to go Fred!! Looks like you are going to get alot of playing time this year.

  48. By JE on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Yes bluebird7 i thought JWebb played a pretty good game. I know he makes his share of mistakes but man is he explosive. Hes has a great arm and there isnt a better running QB in the NFL. I like Ponder but ya got to give JWebb his due. Good game Joe Webb!!!

  49. By Bluebird7 on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    The event that got me hopping angry was Leiber and his *&%#@* sideline interviews!
    His constant interuptions of the play action on the field

    Breaking in on the plays, missing some of the action all the time his yak, yak, babble on and on and on and on!
    Who hasn’t seen at least 10 or 15 interviews with Peterson Seen one seen them all!

    Enough already! Show the game and stay on the game!!!!!!!!!!!!

  50. By DRS. on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    NFL’s replacement officials add to an embarrassing preseason

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/167407335.html

  51. By DRS. on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings a work in (no) progress?

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/167385525.html?refer=y

  52. By Bluebird7 on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    How about that interview with the guy I call Bugs Bunny! All he needed was a carrot, and utering ‘Eh, what’s up Doc’ Yes, Titus, your pal M.W

  53. By DRS. on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Minnesota Vikings injury update: Mistral Raymond misses game with back pain

    http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_21395521/minnesota-vikings-mistral-raymond-misses-game-back-pain?source=rss

  54. By DRS. on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Secondary depth gives Frazier sense of relief

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/blogs/167069475.html

  55. By DRS. on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Rookie Robert Blanton slowly working into the mix at safety

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/blogs/167066555.html

  56. By DRS. on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Question, why did Cook not play?

  57. By JE on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    I like Leslie Frasier but he needs to be more active during the game. Im not saying he needs to be Pete Carroll but come on man say something!!! Fire these guys up alittle. U cant just stand there on the sidelines with ur arms crossed mumbling under ur breath. Lite some of these guys up Leslie!!!

  58. By DRS. on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Voices: Players past and present sound off on NFL’s pressure- and pain-packed culture

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/blogs/167038375.html

  59. By Parkway on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    @DRS: Concussion

  60. By JE on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    DRS Cook had a cuncussion last week but sounds likr he will be cleared today or by monday

  61. By JE on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Ijust hope the doctor clears me to watch next weeks game cuz this one gave me a cuncussion!!!

  62. By DRS. on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Leslie Frazier: Can a nice guy finish first?

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/blogs/167038375.html

  63. By JE on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Im not sure DRS. Frasier needs to be more active during the game. Pump these guys up when they make plays and let them have it alittle when they make mistakes. Its called COACHING!

  64. By packhater on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    I gotta wonder about Frazier. I’m still laughing about him having a sense of relief with our secondary depth. Is he for real? Some one please tell him that was their second string we faced!!!!

  65. By shawn6464 on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

  66. By DRS. on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Still waiting on the Minnesota Supreme Court

    http://finance-commerce.com/2012/05/supreme-court-ok-required-for-vikings-stadium-financing/

  67. By DRS. on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    I will wait to see if Coach Frazier is a good coach or another failure hired by the Vikings in the last few years; this will be the year to see if he is any good. As far as I am concern the only good coach we had was Bud Grant, he at least got us to the SB.

  68. By DRS. on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Have a great day, it is only preseason, and so I will keep the faith and hope for a winning season.

  69. By packhater on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Preseason or not, that display they put on last night should have us all concerned..

  70. By JE on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Hey packhater you dont happen to have Jon Grudens phone number do ya? I think it might be getting time to consider bringing in somebody thats been to a superbowl and knows what it takes to coach a team to a championship. Im not giving up on Frasier yet but if he dont get this ship going i think we need to start to consider it.

  71. By jdogg on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Holy molie…..You don’t think that a team has a bad game. Calm down you fair weather people. It is one game. There are positives to take away, but remember it is pre-season. Let them work out the issues that need to be addressed. The pass that Ponder threw for an Int, was a curl route to Jenkins, who was running a fly route. That is a miss-communication issue. The turnovers or fumbles are a true problem. That has to be worked out. The sacks have to be fixed. When the season starts, watch a team that will impress and send a message that we are a competitive team. Don’t hang up the towel because on one pres-season game. Give me a break. You all should be Packer fans. As for Webb, really, you think he performance rates a starting spot…..come on Man……He can’t run an offense. He has tried and failed routinely. He needs to fill that Receiver role.

  72. By jdogg on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    As for frazier, this is this second year. All coaches have rough initial years, give him a chance to develop his team. Gruden is on the sideline doing commentary for a reason. I believe he got fired for lack of production as well. So don’t start this fire Frazier chant…it is a little early. It took belichick a couple of years to get his dynasty. Let the man make his team and then see what happens.

  73. By packhater on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry jdogg but Ponder got picked throwing at harvin in double coverage, not a mis-communication with jenkins.

  74. By jdogg on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    packhater..watch the tape see the location of the pass and who should have been there. PA said that, but he didn’t know the play call.

  75. By GrandDaddyPurp on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    I saw Ponder make some beautiful throws down the field. One Percy dropped would have been a touchdown. The other to Micheal Jenkins on the sideline perfect throw but he dropped it. Thankfully the defense was called for holding. The other was a perfect throw to Percy who actually caught it. Ponder showed what he can do when the line gives him enough time to go through his reads. Now we just need the receivers to make a play and catch the ball. It has nothing to do with Ponder and/or the coaches.

  76. By GrandDaddyPurp on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    As for the defense. I didnt see the same intensity as last week. Game 3 of the preseason the game team’s first team offense and defense gets the most playing time, I would expect the best from our starters. I didnt see it. Im not stressing too much though tis only preseason.

  77. By packhater on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    I just watched the tape closer jdogg and now I’m wondering why he didnt throw it to a wide open jenkins who was streaking down the feild.

  78. By VIKINGFOREVA on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    MUSGRAVE IS A HORRIBLE COACH RUNS ONE WORST OFFESIVE SETUPS OF ALL AND AT WRONG TIMES , WITH HIM WE GET NOTHING

  79. By caliviking88 on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    If we want ponder to have confidence our recievers (Harvin & Jenkins) have gotta come down with those catches…one was a touchdown……i saw ponder throw some beautiful throws ….everybody should be looking at the recievers and not ponder!!!!

  80. By caliviking88 on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    No peterson also…couldnt run an effective play action without him….everybodys trippin

  81. By Richard1A on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    test

  82. By Martin on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    To be consistent or not to be that is the question?

    1. Ponder
    2. Matt
    3. Musgrave
    4. Frazier

  83. By Richard1A on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Grodin can coach, Green can coach. How dare coach Frazier put that garbage out on the field. They were’nt oring, paddling like a team, together, looked like they were drunk or something, I was watching saying, oh no, I had no confidence at all, I thought they were going to run to the wrong locker room. Not intense at all, not clean cut, not smooth, they have to be kidding, that wasn’t professional football.

  84. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Titus wrote grasping for air on the other blog and some criticized, saying I meant to say gasping. No, I know what I wrote and why. Some of you may want to read beyond cookie cutter newspaper fodder to understand language outside of social conventions and cliches.

  85. By brendan on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Tough game. At least my wife likes the new lavender uniform

  86. By Richard1A on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    check

  87. By brendan on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Love the new lavender uniform!!!!

  88. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings rated at 32:

    http://xfinity.comcast.net/slideshow/sports-NFLPowerRankingsPre/1/

  89. By JE on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Jdogg really? Joe Webb can run an offense just fine. They have only given him two starts so saying hes failed rutinely is bogus! Furthermore i didnt say he desearves to start but that he in my opinion has solidified himself as the number two QB.

  90. By JE on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Nobody is chanting for Frasiers job. We all understand it takes time but my gosh he needs to rattle some cages out there. Come on Leslie, coach em up alittle bit. Its not going to hurt to holler at someone once in a while even if its at a ref. COACH EM UP!!

  91. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Webb has not earned the number two spot and maybe not even the third. His play, outside of a few nifty runs, is horrendously horrible.

  92. By jdogg on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    JE..Did Tony Dungy yell at people….Yet he won a super bowl. Does Tomlin yell at people…again super bowl…..did Belichick yell at people…no dynasty. So Frazier doesn’t need to yell at this team. He just needs them to be motivated to win and they are. What Frazier need to do is be honest with his team and tell them, that if they play like losers, they will be losers. They need to like Ray Lewis said, “play for each other.”

  93. By jdogg on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    JE, yes Webb can not run an offense, he holds on to the ball to long, and he can’t figure out what defensive package is in. He knows how to run but he lacks to ability to truly run the offense. Each game in the preseason, the showed blitz and he is trying to throw the home run ball, therefore he holds on to the ball to long. Audible to a short/hot route and stop the linebackers from blitzing every play. That is what a vet does. He has watched the best and still can’t figure it out. He knows that his line is young and inexperienced, so make the adjustments. Webb has proven that he is not an NFL caliber QB…but he would be a Calvin Johnson type receiver–6’4″ 42 inch vertical…4.4 speed….that is not a QB…….

  94. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Jdogg is spot on.

  95. By JE on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    I agree that all coaches dont coach the same. Im just saying that when ur team is struggling it doesnt hurt to say something good or bad to ur players. This team needs a leader not someone standing on the sidelines with his arms crossed never saying a word to anyone.

  96. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Define leadership.

  97. By JE on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    See Jim Harbough

  98. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    That is an example of one type of leader, but not a definition.

  99. By JE on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry Titus. U are correct. It was just the best example i could give you off the top of my head.

  100. By jdogg on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Leadership is getting the best out your people when the chips are on the table. If you don’t have people with that winning drive, you are doomed to failure. You as a leader can instill that belief in your team, by not accepting failure. When the team sucks, you say….the team sucked…..when the team performs, you credit them for their performance. Sugar coating is not leading.

  101. By Frederick Jones on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    @packerhater and Parkway,

    Kalil had an excellent day EXCEPT two throwing plays.

    Like HALL OF FAMER RON YARY he will not play perfect every day.

    By the way, Yary was picked #1 in the entire draft, out of USC, and I never heard anyone say he wasn’t worth it.

  102. By jdogg on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Leader’s that exemplify that trait are ones like Belichick, Tomlin, and both Harbaughs. They never accept failure and call it like it is.

  103. By jdogg on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    I still can believe they put the Vikings below the Cards in that power ranking.

  104. By JE on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    I agree jdogg. We may not be a top teir team but we are not in the basement either.

  105. By Spoiler Alert on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    wow, some of you are first class idiots.

  106. By JE on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    They just cut down to 75. The next cut will be the tough one. We have some good young players that will be subject to being scooped up by other teams. Next week is a big one for alot of guys on this team.

  107. By Spoiler Alert on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    yet, some of you are level headed enough to see what is what.

  108. By Spoiler Alert on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    like spencer says while paraphrasing, lol..preseason

  109. By Vikings1 on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    After reding all the comments, I still cannot believe all the negative comments from you “so called fans” over a pre-season game. In my opinion, this team will be much improved from last year. Do we have a lots of holes, yes we do, but that is why we have pre-season games to correct problems before the regular season begins.

    With that said , I do have a few obersvations, first of all, Ponder seem to hold on to the ball too long and often-times he looks down his receivers as does Joe Webb. All the 1st string LB’S had a good game as did TE Alan Reisner and WR Aromashadu ( hope I spelled his name correctly). I am really surprised that the game was that close especially with 4 TO’s. Relax guys, it’s only pre-season, no need to “POSTAL”.

  110. By Richard1A on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    I’m still a fan, judging by past Viking team greats, they never looked this lousy even in preseason. Its almost like were being set up to be fed a bunch of b.s. excuses.

  111. By puckertrucker on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE THIS TEAM HAS NO FIRE IN THEIR BELLIES THIS TEAM LOOKED LIKE THEY DID LAST YEAR, SH…ITY THEY COULDN’T MOVE THE BALL, THEY COULDN’T STOP A RUNNY NOSE MUCH LESS A OPPONENTS OFFENSE. THE COACHES HAVE NO FIRE IN THEIR BELLIES, WATCH FRAZIER ON THE SIDE LINES HE LOOKS LIKE HE’S HALF ASLEEP HE COULDN’NT COACH A LITTLE LEAGUE TEAM MUCH LESS A PROFESSIONAL TEAM. IF PONDER PLAYS LIKE THIS DURING THE REGULAR SEASON LOOK FOR THE VIKINGS TO HAVING THE FIRST PICK IN NEXT YEARS DRAFT. PONDER IS NOT A NUMBER ONE QB HE PLAYS LIKE FRAZIER COACHES. THEY BELONG ON THE SIDELINES OF THE EAGLES TEAM WHERE FRAZIER STARTED WE HAVE NEVER GOTTEN ANYTHING GOOD FROM THE EAGLES JUST THEIR DREGS. THE OWNER HAD BETTER LOOK CLOSELY AT THE COACHING STAFF IF HE EVER WANTS TO WIN A SUPER BOWL. THIS TEAM HAS NOTHING GOING FOR THEM EVEN IF IT IS PRESEASON AT LEAST JOE WEBB CAN RUN IF HE HAS TOO, HE SHOULD BE THE NUMBER ONE QB, NOT PONDER. THE ONE AND ONLY PUCKERTRUCKER!!!!!!!!SKOL FANS

  112. By Richard1A on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    Yeah like when they weren’t standing around with there thumbs up there ass’s they were sucking them.

  113. By Bigfan1 on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    I wonder how long it’s going to take Ponder to get it in gear, other players even rookies like Russell Wilson have lit up the NFL, I guess everyone has a different learning curve.

    On another note, I don’t know what Kluwe is so upset about the refs it can’t be any worse than the NFC game in NO.

  114. By Bigfan1 on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    I tell you what with the Vikings putting all their eggs in the Ponder basket, hopefully he won’t get hurt, because then we have no legitimate backup. The Browns are smart they have two top round QB picks. We need more of a backup than one qb/receiver/? that the club doesn’t really know what to do with and one is at the end of his career. It’s a little scary at qb.

  115. By DM on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    It is hard to know what exactly is happening from watching the TV coverage, because you don’t get to see the entire field, but having said that, Ponder’s seems to be taking way to long to make his reads. His decision making is slow, he doesn’t seem to recognize the coverages and know where he might have an open guy. I watch him struggle to find his primary received during the first game, when he had a guy out in the flat who had a twenty yards between him and the next defender. He holds the ball tool long, is trying to force things, which will lead to picks, sacks, and potentlial injury. Say what you will about Web, but I was counting during his drop backs and it was 1,2,3 and the ball was out of his hands….

  116. By JE on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    JWebb looked solid.Unfortunatly Ponder didnt. I no its only preseason but the third preseason game is always the one you look at the most and we looked terrible on O. I no there are alot of Webb haters out there but he did outplay Ponder!If Ponder holds on to the ball and keeps getn sacked he wont make it thru the season.Stay ready JWebb!!!

  117. By BusterCrab on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    Right on JE. Tell Titusknowitall to stick it in his ear.

  118. By Parkway on Aug 26, 2012 | Reply

    @Fred: Were we watching the same game? I saw at least 7 or 8 plays where Kalil was just running after the DE after he had blown by him. Terrible waste of a high pick

  119. By Dueyz on Aug 27, 2012 | Reply

    4-10, maybe 5-11 this season. I see so many areas where little or no improvement has been made from last year. Our secondary is going to be demolished again. Our soggy O-line is going to force Ponder to make bad decisions and stunt what possible growth we hope to see from him. Our soggy O-line is also going to cause our RBs to get beat up because of lack of lanes. When Ponder does have the time to throw, he can’t seem to find correct timing on where/when to put the ball, and can’t seem to get the zip on it in order to get it there. Just like last season, we’re going to have to rely on a hand full of super stars to make big plays just to save us a little face in the league.

  120. By Dueyz on Aug 27, 2012 | Reply

    *4-12

  121. By Troutdaddy on Aug 27, 2012 | Reply

    SO many negatives on here. The fact is that we held the Chargers to 4 field goals. That was great. The fact is that turnovers by a few newbies and a terrible play my Smith cost us the game. With that said, Ponder is doing well and we get to have one more practice game until the real season starts and THEN and only then should anyone be throwing anyone under the bus. Going to be an interesting season to say the least. Can’t wait to see Ponder hook up with Harvin and Simpson.

  122. By CanadianVF on Aug 27, 2012 | Reply

    As I stated on this blog last year, my biggest concern on the Vikings is not the player personel but rather the coaching staff that is leading this team. The Vikings continually go on the cheap when hiring their coaching staff so do not be surprised at the results we achieve or do not achieve, you get what you pay for. Lets face it the organization should have never let Tomlin get away.But because the Vikings do not want to spend money on coaches with an NFL track record of success, they continually throw darts at a board hoping some unproven coach will turn into a gem. It is like trying to win the lottery, it almost never happens. We hope our offensive coordinator who was a quarterback coach in Atlanta turns into a gem for example. We hope that Frazier can learn on the job and become a head coach but he has no track record of success. When you talk about our ranking compared to other teams in the league, in terms of our coaching staff being ranked 32 is just about right. They do seem like a nice bunch of guys, but folks the NFL is not a nice place.

  123. By RAleander on Aug 28, 2012 | Reply

    I LIKE FRAZIER,HOWEVER HE IS SIMPLY NOT A GREAT LEADER OF MEN.TO ME NOTHING HE TRIES SEEMS TO WORK.TO BE SUCCESSFUL ONE MUST HAVE A PLAN.HE AND MUSGRAVE JUST LOOK OVERWHELMED.

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