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Gerhart Poised For Increased Role In 2012

Posted by Mike Wobschall on August 20, 2012 – 11:06 am

The big news in the Vikings RB stable this offseason was the rehab of Adrian Peterson from a knee injury. Though Peterson’s rehab has been executed to plan, conventional wisdom suggested that the Vikings would lean on backup Toby Gerhart a bit more in 2012 while Peterson worked his way back to form.

Gerhart is indeed poised for an increased role in the Vikings offense this season, but it’s becoming apparent that the increased role is more a function of Gerhart’s improvement than it is of Peterson’s recovery from injury. In two preseason games this year, Gerhart has 11 carries for 61 yards (5.5 yards per carry) and 1 reception for 19 yards. He looks the part of a starting-caliber NFL RB. Aside from that production, Gerhart has displayed his improvement in other areas as well.

“Toby has made strides in the pass protection realm of his game,” Offensive Coordinator Bill Musgrave explained. “He’s always been smart, but I think his technique is better this year. He’s playing with lower pad level. Running the ball, too, he seems to be more assertive. A little bit quicker to hit the hole.”

Gerhart occupying a prominent role in the offense may be new to Vikings fans, but to those who’ve followed his career, it’s commonplace. He was a standout player at Stanford over four seasons, and during his time there he was a unanimous All-American, won the 2009 Doak Walker Award (honors nation’s top college RB) and was a runner-up in Heisman voting in 2009 as well.

That kind of recognition is in the rear view mirror, now, and ahead of him is another shot at a productive season.


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403 Responses to “Gerhart Poised For Increased Role In 2012”

  1. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    TITUS RULES!!!!!

  2. By vikingology1 on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with having two RB in the backfield when Peterson is ready to go full-strenth-it will only keep the defenses guessing.

  3. By ozzinator on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Oz is guessing that Fred is wondering if that is the real Titus.

  4. By Spoiler Alert on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Ha, Oz, don’t we all. I agree vikesology, absolutely nothing wrong with using two RB. That one-two punch worked great in 09, don’t see why it would not work in2012.
    GO VIKINGS!!

  5. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Why not have the whole offensive line as running backs? Then the defenses would be totally confused.

  6. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Thanks mainly to Spoiler Alert– he likes to play dress up and pretend he is Titus.

  7. By Parody on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Toby has 2 years left on his contract. If he shows the league that he is starting calibur this year, he could be worth big value in a trade in the offseason. I ink this makes the most sense, because when AP is back to full production levels, Toby’s talents will be wasted.

  8. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Have Tobey show off then trade him… could be a good idea. The problem is what would his value be. He was drafted in the 2nd but I don’t think even if he dominates other teams would be willing to give a 2nd up. Maybe a 3rd and a 5th-6th.

  9. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Wobdingo what happened to the MMMB?
    Sorry if I hurt your feeling… actually I’m not.

  10. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Wobcabob has the great one know as Lester Bagley won any more awards?

  11. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    How long do people take to eat lunch? Its been over an hour.

  12. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry wrong thing.

  13. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Executives eat lunch for at least two or three hours.

  14. By Richard1A on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Which is fine, the only thing missing is the flashness of A.P. running,,wait wait, whats that? Joe Webb! why not throw Webb in there with Toby, Webb has outstanding running skills, c’mon now, we have seen him do it. If it was’nt for Webbs running skills, and he made none of those great running plays at qb, we would not take a 2nd look at him, because his qb is average at best, his running, which is what is keeping him on the team, should be used! this is a team sport, he has something to offer, he should be put in at runningback, period. (or receiver) c’mon now be honest-he has got some awesome running skills with the ball.

  15. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    I was a big supporter of Toby’s talents in his rookie year when most everyone was booing him. It could be some of us, including myself, are wrong about Webb.

  16. By Woodboat on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Richard1A…

    I’n not going to say that Webb doesn’t have the ability to play RB, but I don’t think you can judge his value at that position by what we’ve seen him do in the past. Breaking containment on a passing play once the line of scrimmage has thinned out and gaping holes and wide open real estate are ahead of him is a completely different ball of wax than what a RB faces. I remember him coming in last year on designed run plays and him not fairing so well. I don’t hold that against him… AP doesn’t gain big yards every play, either.

    Don’t fall into the trap of saying that a QB that runs for yardage would automatically make him a good RB, because its really an apples and oranges thing.

  17. By Woodboat on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    @ Titus (or one of his clones)…

    It COULD be that we are wrong about Webb. It could be that we are wrong about Tavaris Jackson, too. Maybe the Raiders were wrong about Jamarcus Russel… Fred seems to think so. I’d say it’s a very long shot that we are wrong about his ability to play the position now or in the future, however. I’m not an expert, nor is any other blogger, but listening to guys like Steve Young and Phil Simms say that you can’t really improve accuracy carries some weight.

    Webb is inaccurate. You can’t fix that. You can’t be a successful QB and be inaccurate. Accuracy DEFINES a top flight QB. Other than decision making, it’s the most important attribute of a QB.

  18. By Woodboat on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    I’d like to see Webb with an 8 something on his jersey. I don’t think you could plug him in tomorrow and expect him to be able to compete with the other life-long WRs in the league, but with some coaching and a lot of practice, he could carve a niche. It’ll never happen… in his mind, he’s a QB. He’s had enough praise at that position it would take a pretty strong coach to convince him that WR is his new role.

    If he wants to make the highlight reels in a positive manner, I believe that is the only way he’ll get on film.

  19. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    @13 year old girl blogger(Fred Jones)
    Logan Thomas, Geno Smith, and Kieth Price they all could be top QBs in the coming draft what do you think?
    What about Tyler Bray, Matt Barkley, Tyler Wilson, AJ McCarron, and Landry Jones?

  20. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Almost forgot E.J. Manuel.

  21. By Bluebird7 on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    @vikingology1..I agree on 2 RB’s..How about 2 QB’s (Ponder–Webb) in the same game? Wouldn’t that also throw off the defenses?

  22. By Frederick Jones on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    @Woodboat,

    Why can’t you fix accuracy?

    You can improve anything in sports: reaction time, speed, strength, endurance, etc.
    You can’t improve accuracy?

    Terry Bradshaw certainly did. Nolan Ryan and Sandy Koufax did. It may not be easy to improve running speed or throwing accuracy, but to say it can’t be done…well there is a word for that…but I won’t use it. lol

  23. By Richard1A on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    I have seen Webb put the moves on defenses, if not runninback, a receiver. His qb skills are average, his outstanding running ability has to be what is keeping him on the club, think about it, how many times did they get no where, and he pulls off a great run to keep the drive alive, there is no extreme talent at his qb play its in his running with the ball!

  24. By Frederick Jones on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    From a 13 year old girl,

    I don’t really follow college football, so I don’t know those players. Besides isn’t it a little hard to predict at this point. I don’t think you can do it with Joe Webb.

    What bothers me is so many people are against Joe Webb, it’s like he isn’t being given a chance. It’s got to be hard to go out on the field and have even the home town fans rooting against you.

  25. By Frederick Jones on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

  26. By jman on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    @ Woodboat

    I agree that it would take a lot of coaching and time to turn Webb back into a WR. However I don’t think he should be put back at WR. He is a good QB, And can develop into a great QB. He plays like Miachel Vick except younger. If he does change positions he should be a RB. He has potential. You’ll see when he develops more.

  27. By Frederick Jones on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    It’s true that F. L. Jones is no genius, but he KNOWS that some people just like to grab the tail of what’s winning.

    …doesn’t matter if it’s right…they just do it.

    Does this make you think I am calling you a name? Deal with it.

  28. By Frederick Jones on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Joe Webb has a right to play quarterback with the Minnesota Vikings without you putting him down.

  29. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    @Freddy
    To help you scratch that OLine itch. Alabama’s D.J. Fluker 6’6 330 pounds of p@ss protecting and run blocking fury. Likely a 1st round pick.

  30. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Is QBDK a good person Fred?

  31. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Would you give a person a second chance if they killed your dog no matter their race?

  32. By jman on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    @ Fred

    WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Seriously?!?!?

  33. By Jimmy on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Freddy is defending his racistness. He thinks he is the only guy who can be of African bloodlines.

  34. By Jimmy on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Anyone kills my dog they better run fast.

  35. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Logan Thomas is the favorite to win the Heisman and likely to pull a RG3(Go in Top 2 against the favorite to go #1 Barkley). Freddy boy I like RG3 and Cam “the man” Newton.

  36. By jman on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Good for you Jimmy

  37. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    I would rank the Top 5 draft eligable QBs: Thomas, Barkly, Bray, Wilson, and Manuel. With Price and Jones tied for 6th.

  38. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Look them up and you will see race has nothing to do with it.

  39. By Fredrick Jones on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    I’m secretly a Packers fan! GO PACKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  40. By ????? ???? prankster on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    YOU SUCK cheeseFred! HA!

  41. By jman on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    YEAH, YOU SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  42. By jman on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Where did everyone go there is a cheesehead here!

  43. By ????? ???? prankster on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    YEAH!!!!!

  44. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Packer boy how do you like having a QB who makes shower babies with his WR core?
    Better be careful Clay may get jealous.

  45. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Hey chesse boy how do you like having so many holes in your head?

  46. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    To bad none lead to your brain and its staving for some oxygen.

  47. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    starving

  48. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Alright who taught the hillbilly how to use a computer?

  49. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    What the he[[ I come back and the chesse doodle ran away.

  50. By Beach Viking on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    @Frederick Jones

    Webb has no right to play QB. This is a game. He was given an “opportunity” to play QB and it is up to him to make the best of it.

  51. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Woodboat, you sure know a lot.

  52. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Bloggers-this Joe Webb issue is getting to be a bit old. If Ponder goes down, due to injury, Webb is still a viable replacement. In fact, if Webb comes in for Ponder, he has all the tangibles to be an elite QB. Race has very little to do with the issue, unless you are Fred L Jones, then race has plenty to do with it. Fred is likely mad because he is out of Malt Liquor.

  53. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Oh great-here we go again. I thought this was over, Spoiler. For some reason you are just infatuated with the great Titus. I’m not suprised-I am a great man. Perhaps you would like some lessons. I am available for tutoring if you wish. I can’t promise to make you as great as I am, but we can certainly try.

  54. By Fredrick Jones on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    YOU GUYS SUCK BA11S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  55. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    That last post was an imposter-be aware of the imposter.

  56. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Back to the ghetto, Fred.

  57. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Ok, imposter-the derogetory re-marks about Fred are not from me-I don’t make fun of others because of race.

  58. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    GOOD LORD-WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM? I’m outta here.

  59. By Fredrick Jones on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    PACKERS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  60. By Fredrick Jones on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    FU+CK=YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  61. By Fredrick Jones on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    1+1=4. Simply.

  62. By Fredrick Jones on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    BYE BYE B!TCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  63. By Richard1A on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    The Vikes will be wearing special shoes to ground out the electrical charges the S.D. Charges will be dishing out! Get to the local store, stock your shelves with the cans of Purple Punch flavored Whoop Ass!

  64. By Richard1A on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    This just in, Vikes to wear shoes that will ground out any electrical charges they may get form the S.D. Chargers! Don’t forget to stock up on Purple Punch flavored cans of Whoop Ass! and then watch your favorite gang of football players go berzerk on that Charger team!

  65. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Packer fans can not even find a tree in the woods. Who the he[[ taught them how to use computers seriously?

  66. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    To all Packer fans we do not care if your Daddy-brother likes to pack your fudge please keep it on your backwater hillbilly site.

  67. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Dam Hillbilly redneck!

  68. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Simple math even escapes these losers. Everyone knows 1+1= 1 on a bun.

  69. By This Site Sucks Now on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Welcome to the former Minnesota Vikings website, as you can see it has been raided by trolls, and if upper management doesnt act on it, They’ll have to nuke it. Either way….RIP Vikings.com

  70. By Richard1A on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    No no no! this is probably a Charger dirty trick! just make sure you wear rubber soled shoes to the game, they could be trying to dazzle us with some kind of electrical show, volts, jolts , should be electrifying, Get the axes and swords sharpened, who knows what this S.D. team will try!

  71. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    The impostor is really having fun!!! Good for you! I dare say, when the impostor goes back and forth, pretending to be the real Titus and then acting in her impostor persona, I am tickled by the creativity of it all. Wow, way to go! Productive day.

  72. By HCG. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    This is for those purple faithful who just want a normal blog experience.

    http://vikingsfootballblog.com/

    No impostors, no trolls, no B/S.

    F@ck you impostor troll, go back to your sh!tty life, d!ck.

  73. By HCG. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    This is for those purple faithful who just want a normal blog experience.

    http://vikingsfootballblog.com/

    No impostors, no trolls, no B/S.

    F@ck you impostor troll, go back to your sh!tty life, d!ck.

  74. By HCG. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry for double post.

  75. By Charger rock on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    They’re onto me.

  76. By Charger rock NOT on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    DON’T BUY SPECIAL SHOES!!!! Make your own because the chargers sabatoged the real one!

  77. By Charger rock NOT on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    ones

  78. By HCG. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    DON’T try to go to the other site there isn’t one.

  79. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    I meant 1+1=2 last time.

  80. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    F Allayalls.

  81. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    BAM!!!!!!!

  82. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    How do ya like DAT!!!!!!!

  83. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    GO SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  84. By Richard1A on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    WTF!!!!!!!!!! Whats with all the imposters!

  85. By Spencer on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    I wish Frazier was like this…

    http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1306720/walrusfight.gif

  86. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Well, we got a GM. We got a new stadium. We got the time outs removed. We can get these impostors removed as well. Time to tell Wobbles to change the blog– only one username per email– and once that username is taken– -it is taken permanently unless that blogger leaves vikings.com.

  87. By Spencer on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Titus, you forgot to mention that we got Cook out of jail too.

  88. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    But then Wobmagob could just ban anyone who ask him a question he doesn’t like.

  89. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Wobby would you ban me if you could?

  90. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Wobbles is a pretty good guy– he does not interfere with the blog now, so why would he restrict users? We just need to have to stop people from posting under more than one username. I think it can be done. The technology is out there. (LOL.)

  91. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Of course, I am getting most of the impostor’s attention but wait till it happens to some of you– Gosh, I am loved so much.

  92. By packhater on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Toby’s role should have increased last year. Play calling was horrible. Get it fixed Frazier.

  93. By Parody on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Titus – The technology already exists on this site. The blog is run through WordPress, the same one that the other blog uses. The site administrator simply needs to go in a check a box that requires verified WordPress accounts in order to contribute to the comments.

    It specifically reads “Users must be registered and logged in to comment”, just in case Mike is reading this for ideas on how to suffocate the imposters.

  94. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Parody, I know. I saw the other blog, but acting a tad, should I say, demure? Letting Wobbles be the hero on his own.

  95. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Some of us have been calling for a one username per blogger for years. Could it be Wobbles is running around here under false names?

  96. By packhater on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    What is 100 feet long and has 8 teeth?………………. The ticket line at Green Bay games.

  97. By Woodboat on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    @Fred…

    Why can’t you fix accuracy? Dude, I’m not some type of kinetic physical therapist… I don’t even play one on the radio. What I’m using as a basis for my argument is listening to the voices of experience about EVERY inaccurate passer I’ve heard discussed over the years. It isn’t a Joe Webb thing. Its an inaccurate passer thing. From what I understand, its like the old saying “you can’t fix stupid”.

    You are either smart or you are not. You are either accurate, or you are not. That’s it.

    He doesn’t make bad decisions, he’s athletic as all get out, and he has great escapability. He just can’t hit his receiver. This is a problem.

    Noone has the RIGHT to play in the NFL. It’s a job, not a constitutional right. He’s had plenty of opportunity to show that he’s the man for the job, and he hasn’t done it.

    @jman… he is not a good QB. If he was a good QB they wouldn’t have drafted Ponder.

    @Titus… (or more likely, his imposter) Yeah, I do know a lot. Far from everything, though. :) I do know enough to be able to form opinion on what my eyes tell me and what I hear from those I respect.

  98. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    I hate wobbles for that.

  99. By Woodboat on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    There is the distinct possibility that Wobbs simply does not care if there are imposters. He is probably only concerned with doing his job promoting the team with his Wobcast, blogging, and articles. I can’t imagine that he wastes much time actually reading what is posted following his blogs, with the exception of the MMMB request blog.

  100. By Woodboat on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Nice, packhater :)

  101. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Woodboat, totally disagree. Talent is not genetic, but learned.

  102. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    What a horrible paradigm:

    You are either smart or you are not. You are either accurate, or you are not. That’s it.

    Please do NOT work in education.

  103. By Parody on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    I think the argument is that if the accuracy is an issue after a player has gone through years of high school and college play, then it is likely “fixed” as well as is reasonably possible by the time they get to the NFL.

    Furhter, if you haven’t learned better accuracy after 2+ years in the league, then chances are you won’t start learning it later.

  104. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    I especially take issue with the first half of that comment, Parody.

  105. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Do you know how often I hear students tell me they are not smart or they cannot make it? I don’t let them talk to themselves that way.

  106. By Parody on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Don’t get me wrong Titus, I agree. But I’m trying to say that there is something about the “I can’t do any better” mentality that usually doesn’t change, and so creates the impression in many people’s minds that they can’t improve.

  107. By Parody on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Personally, I take issue with the start of the last sentence in that comment. But for a completely different reason.

  108. By Spencer on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    THIS is a coach!

  109. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, are you Wobschall?

  110. By Woodboat on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    I imagine you hear the cannot make it or they are not smart comment more often than you would like. I don’t care for it, either. That’s a confidence issue. It has nothing to do with their specific intellectual gifts.

    Your statement about talent not being genetic but learned is idiotic, and I expect far more from you. Not everyone can be Usain Bolt… he was born with talent and worked to maximize what he was blessed with.

    I could work from dusk til dawn my entire childhood on becoming the best athlete possible, but there is no way I’d be able to increase my physical abilities to the point that I could play in the NFL. I don’t have the physical foundation necessary.

    As far as my you are either smart or you are not has nothing to do with education. I’m referring to the ability to learn. You obviously believe that noone is handicapped in their ability to learn by your earlier statement. This is, of course, ridiculous.

    I commend you for bolstering the confidence in your students that approach you with a negative self-image. It speaks well of you.

  111. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Woodboat I am no idiot. I am not referring to a five foot person having the skills to play in the NBA. Don’t talk down to me. Barring obvious limitations, all talent is leaned– not genetic. Neuroscience, a study of mine on the side (for idiots only) proves it. Try reading a book called The Talent Code– very easy read.

  112. By Woodboat on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Now, if you’d like to change the word “talent” to “ability”, I think that we can find some common ground.

    Ability is learned, but it will fit inside certain parameters set by your talent. A star athletes ceiling is much higher than the common man when it comes to physical prowess, and if he or she works to maximize this ability, they become someone like A Peterson. If they don’t, they become Jamarcus Russell.

    In the case of Joe Webb, I believe that the level of accuracy necessary to be successful is above his maximum. Like Parody has pointed out, he’s refined his accuracy through years of practice to his maximum, or near it. I see nothing to take offense at in that statement.

  113. By Woodboat on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply
    Woodboat I am no idiot. I am not referring to a five foot person having the skills to play in the NBA. Don’t talk down to me. Barring obvious limitations, all talent is leaned– not genetic. Neuroscience, a study of mine on the side (for idiots only) proves it. Try reading a book called The Talent Code– very easy read.

    I wasn’t talking down to you, and I’ll thank you to show the same courtesy.
    So, you admit that there are limitations. At what point, do you think, they become “obvious”? Aren’t these limitations genetic? If they are, then genetics limit someones talents, if I’m understanding you correctly.

    This is exactly my point.

  114. By Frederick Jones on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    @Woodboat,

    “Ain’t we picking our peaches before they fuzzed up good?”

  115. By Frederick Jones on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Nobody talks about making Tebow into a tight end or running back. Joe throws way better than that guy!

  116. By packhater on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Quit arguing about Ponder and Webb. At least we dont have to begin the season with Donald McRibb and his 39 yards passing.

  117. By Frederick Jones on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    @Woodboat,

    How do you know Usain Bolt was born with talent? Where did they write that?

    Maybe he just played lots of soccer when he was young, and then when they discovered he had developed speed, they started training him on a GRASS track?

    How do you know that he wasn’t crippled as a youngster?

  118. By Woodboat on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Actually, Fred….

    I have no idea what the peaches thing means, but I bet it was funny :)

    If you want to talk about Tebow, I’m game. I have EXACTLY the same opinion of Tebow as I do of Webb.

    Well, not exactly. He did have a better college career than Webb, but that means next to nothing. The only thing he has on Webb is that he is one of the most popular guys in the league. The Jets have a huge vested interest in making this particular guy into an NFL caliber QB. He never will be, but if they could, they’d have the MOST popular QB in the league, bar none.

    I don’t think his upside is any better than Webbs, personally. It’s all just marketing.

  119. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Webb has been shown to throw the ball 50 yards right on a dime– so genetically, there is no issue. He has the arm and all functioning body parts, He is coordinated and healthy, Inaccuracy in throwing can be learned. But the key is this– how motivated is he, and how much time will he put in. There is a marking of 10,000 hours– you are smart, Woodboat, you have probably heard of this. It is proven that if you practice at something for 10,000 hours, you become a master at that skill or what have you. Of course, the practice has to be diligent and you need the proper corrections. Webb could improve his accuracy– that to me is not debatable. Whether he is committed to put enough time and effort, who knows? And can we wait? Probably not. Okay, Titus wants to be up early.

  120. By Frederick Jones on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    @packhater,

    I would definitely be for not arguing about Webb and Ponder, however almost every time I turn on Vikings.com blog someone is dissing Webb, or trying to get him to change positions.

    It’s a little like EVERYONE in Mayberry, RFD. going against Sheriff Taylor. Why diss a MN Viking???

    Diss the Packers, Lions, or Bears.

  121. By Frederick Jones on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    There we go again.

  122. By Woodboat on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe he was, Fred. I find it highly unlikely that he was crippled as a youngster, but hey, maybe he’s Jamaica’s version of Forrest Gump, huh?

    Did you know, Fred, that in the 100 yard dash he takes 3 steps less than every other runner in the finals of the last 2 Olympics? He’s got the genetics to be a long strider, he worked his a$$ off to make sure those strides were as quick as possible.

    So, yeah, Fred. Bolt was born with a higher max than any other man that has recorded a time in the 100 yd dash.

  123. By packhater on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    No one is dissing Webb. He’s just not the starter and you are clearly unhappy about it.

  124. By Frederick Jones on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    @Woodboat,

    Okay, that’s a good a s s e s s m e n t of Tebow. But like Webb, many say that Tebow will be a star in the NFL.

    Any news about the offensive and defensive lines? Jones believes that is still where the game is played regardless of the marketing of the almighty quarterback.

    I was impressed by the stoppage of the Bills running game. But we still have no pass rush. We can’t block for the passer yet either. But we are young in both lines, so improvement is possible, I guess.

  125. By Woodboat on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    I respect your opinion, Titus. Dropping a football on a dime 50 yards away once does not prove accuracy. He doesn’t miss ALL his throws, just enough of them that he doesn’t perform to the level required to win football games.

    That being said, I see what you are saying, and again, I respect your opinion. At the end of the day, that’s what we are discussing is differing opinions. It may very well be that Webb will become the image of Terry Bradshaw as Fred suggests. I think the odds are slim at best, but hey… that’s just one guys opinion.

  126. By Frederick Jones on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    @packerhater (freddie hater)

    Okay so you haven’t read all of my posts, or even 50% of other people’s posts, but it’s all about the quarterback.

    Watch ESPN, Fox, etc. it’s the same thing. Quarterback, Quarterback, Quarterback.

    It makes you want to throw up. 99% of the people in this country cannot be that dumb.

  127. By Frederick Jones on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    …and most are so biased towards their own team and it’s QBs. They can’t see the forest for the trees.

  128. By Frederick Jones on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry but you might want to read the lyrics to this song.

  129. By Frederick Jones on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    TELL Jones that ESPN, Fox, etc., isn’t “ALL ABOUT THE QB.”

    I dare you.

  130. By Frederick Jones on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    The excuse that it is that way because the average fan cannot see anything other than the quarterback play doesn’t hold water with the jonesboy.

    They could tape O Line or D Line play. The could show what a linebackers job consists of during the game, etc.

  131. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Woodboat, I agree that Webb does not look up to par, but I disagree on the origin of talent. Anyway, I think you are partially right about the students– confidence, but their lack of confidence is often rooted in the pervasive societal belief that you are born gifted. I am not good at math, or I cannot write. And I go into my neuroscience spiel as well as tell of my own personal triumphs. Webb has the abilities, but I don’t think the Vikings can wait for him to develop them. I really like the new kid from Sacramento State.

  132. By packhater on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Cmon freddie, i dont hate you.
    What exactly do you see Webb doing that makes you believe he is the better QB between he and Ponder?

  133. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Fred, you sure were cussing earlier on the blog. WOW.

  134. By Woodboat on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    @ Fred…

    Totally agree with you on the line play thing.

    I HOPE that the moves the team made on the O Line work out. I was hoping for a bit more out of Kalil right out of the gate, but that would have been like expecting every 1st rd draft pick to play like Cam Newton. He’s got time to develop. Not selling Charlie Johnson at LG yet… he might be just fine there. Sully is Sully… hope he stays healthy all year and learns to get low on the bull rush. Fusco? Time will tell. Loadholt… I’ve been pretty down on him, but maybe his technique and the TE help he gets will override his limited mobility. All in all, I have pretty high hopes for these 5.

    On the other side of the ball, I’d like to see Robison and Griffen in fairly constant rotation. I think they both bring plenty to the table. Jared needs to be spelled some, probably, but I’d like to see him on the field the majority of the time. Inside? I really don’t know how we will do… but a big part of our success hinges on…. Jasper Brinkley. If we don’t get strong MLB play, I think we are going to have limited success defensively, because our DTs aren’t the best.

  135. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    When is the SD game?

  136. By Woodboat on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Nah, Fred wasn’t cussing… .I think that was your imposter switching gears, Titus.

  137. By Woodboat on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Not sure about the time of the SD game… I’m sure I’ll have to watch it on NFL Replay, though. I don’t mind waiting, though, to watch it in HD.

  138. By Woodboat on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Your right, Fred… it IS all about the QB in the media, with a few exceptions. The problem is, the game hinges upon QB play more now than any other time in history. The game is so “pass friendly” now that it makes the run almost irrelevant. It makes pass defense nearly impossible. (I exaggerate, but not much…)

  139. By Richard1A on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Hey someone is trying to imposter me! having fun Jack A–, he is either the guy who started the other site and wants people to join or its a Packer fan! Hey imposter dude, your just trying to get some of this Purple Punch are’nt yuh,, your saying, I want to be part of that Berzerk Gang, the team that serves the Purple Punch,,probably sick of eating cheese this cheese that, I don’t blame yuh , you just go tell your Packer buddies, and Charger buddies we won’t beat you that bad, now go on your way! its probably a NFL wide conspiracy, they think they can drink the Purple Punch, than they can be part of Berzerk Gang, maybe other teams can go Berzerk! no, sorry, The Vikings are the only ones to drink the Purple Punch flavored cans of Whoop Ass! thats it, go on now.

  140. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    I know Woodboat– funny truth is, even when it seems it’s me, half of those are the impostor pretending to be me upset at the impostor. I never have watched as much preseason as I have this year– I watched both games in their entirety. This SD game may be really lopsided– 41-17.

  141. By Richard1A on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Psst, hey imposter dude,,,,you don’t know who you are messing with. Your in Viking Country Buddy!

  142. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Any of you been on any of these cool roads?

    http://www.weather.com/travel/driving-scenic-drives/15-most-amazing-roads-20120816

  143. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Mister imposter I was right in what I said 1+1= 1 on a bun.(See 90-00 cartoon Ed, Edd, and Eddy)
    @Fred
    If Webb would actually hit WRs when they are on the field and not forcing them out of bounds. Also don’t like the idea of him hanging his receivers out to dry.

  144. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    @Richard1A
    HCG respects his fellow Viking fans and would not impersonate any of us. There are some who I think they/he could be.

  145. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    @Richard1A
    HCG respects his fellow Viking fans and would not impersonate any of us.
    Whoever the imposter is he surely doesn’t care about Vikings football.

  146. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    why would people want to change that statement it just seems stupid.

  147. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    VF and DT are my two guesses as to who the imposter is.

  148. By H.M.G. on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    I’ll go with Vikingfool since he has not posted in a while.

  149. By Richard1A on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Thor and Odin Sent me, going to take the electricity out of the Chargers! there going to call them candle power or something when they leave here!

  150. By Sir Greasy Panda on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    THE IMPOSTERS ARE THOSE PACKERS TROLLS FROM LAST SEASON!!!

    Those !diots plagued this site for months last year and they have nothing better to do.

  151. By Skol_Vikes98 on Aug 20, 2012 | Reply

    Man, people have nothing better to do than imposter football fans on articles message board on a team site? Sheesh. Whoever is doing it, get a life man.

  152. By Richard1A on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Cleaning the blood off my new Buffalo Pelt Vikings clothes, can’t wait to make it electric, put some charge into it!

  153. By Matthias on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Just ignore all ignorant/stupid comments and you are fine. As long as we don’t feed the trolls, they have to search an other place for food.

  154. By ozzinator on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Oz is still concerned over Fredward’s racial instigations. Just ignoring them will not make them go away, not unlike the OL rants.
    Oz wonders what Titus, Parody thinks……….

  155. By Deer Tracks* on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    H.M.G. The imposter is NOT me, as I have nothing againt Titus, or anybody else on this site. Actually, I get a kick out of most of the ones that keep hitting at each other.

    Woodboat kind of surprised me lately, he is showing he does appear to have some smarts

    Those of you in the know, are aware that I also have been hit with an imposter!.

  156. By SherlockHolmes on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Deer Tracks is correct.He is NOT the impostor.

    But the impostor has impersonated himself.To avoid recognition.

  157. By Deer Tracks* on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    And anyone who wants to impersonate a 13 year old girl like me is just rude! It makes me want to go cry to my momma, but I’m sure you guys know that cause all I do is cry like the little girl I am.

  158. By SherlockHolmes on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Besides who wants to randomly switch their name to some goofy mystery character all the time. I am sticking with Deer Tracks

  159. By Fredrick Jones on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    I want some kool-aid and chicken and waffles

  160. By ozzinato on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    haha. Well I want some Crackers. Then im gonna get in my mini van and drive around my sub division and listen to rap music cause I think I’m cool

  161. By Matthias on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Fredrick Jones isn’t the real Jones… The O-line is the most important position in football – the battle is won in the trenches… The real Jones uses an other Username as well or am I mistaken? Probably just a packer fan trolling around.

  162. By Matthias on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Do they really hate their website so much that they have to come over here? If that’s the case… you are welcome to our site, a civilized site at some point.

  163. By ozzinator on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Oz has seen that somebody is impersonating Oz. Nice one cheesebelly.

  164. By Matt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    I think they should line up AP and Gerhart in the back field with Harvin and Webb on the outsides. All four can run plus two TE they could cause chaos.

  165. By Matthias on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Fredrick Jones also post under the name Sherlock Holmes and obviously if you did understand Matthias’ comment earlier Jones also post as Jones posting as Matthias. Matthias thinks that this blog is full of only two or three individuals that keep posting under different names.

  166. By Matthias on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Web will be the starter for someone by the end of next year. He is T Jack Revisited

  167. By jon on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    You guys are crazy! Web is good as a back up and just that. Anyone saying he could play running back need to have their head examined. If you honestly think Web has the intangables to play running back in the NFL clearly you know nothing about the game of football.
    1. Web runs to upright. Only person who can pull that off is AP
    2. His body is not built to play that position. He cant take the constant abuse that position recieves
    3. Ever Seen Mike Vick play an entire season? No because when he takes a shot his body breaks.

    Just the way the game is

  168. By PurplHaze on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    TOBY IS A BEAST!!!

  169. By Matthias on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Your mom is a beast!!!

  170. By Richard1A on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Why do I think Webb can be a running back? because his qb play is average, if that, the only reason people think he can play qb is because he scrambles out of there and does some great runs, if not a receiver, other wise if not for the runs, what has he done? nothing! I emailed Wobshall about somebody impersonating here.

  171. By packhater on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    This blog reads GERHART not Webb poised for increased role in 2012.
    Toby is starting RB material. He has just been playing behind perhaps the biggest shadow possible for an RB. He is more than capable of carrying the load while A.P. gets healthy.

  172. By Matthias on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Well, if you want to be from Germany instead of being an US citizen you are allowed to use my name :)

  173. By Matthias on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    At least I have a fan posting with my name :)

  174. By Matthias on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    : D

  175. By Matthias on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Matthias you are totally right I am your biggest fan. Therefor I am using your name. I want to be like you. :)

  176. By Matthias on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    @ Matthias, Thank you. :) It is always nice to help people out. :)

  177. By packhater on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    You can use my nane if you want. I get a lot of pleasure writing the name PACKHATER.

  178. By packhater on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    name

  179. By Frederick Jones on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    By Richard1A on 8-21-2012

    “Why do I think Webb can be a running back? because his qb play is average, if that, the only reason people think he can play qb is because he scrambles out of there and does some great runs, if not a receiver, other wise if not for the runs, what has he done? nothing! I emailed Wobshall about somebody impersonating here.”

    First, it’s a looong run on sentence which is impossible to understand.

    Second, the facts are there are no facts in the sentence. “What has he done?”
    Look it up on Pro Football Reference!!!

    Third, what does that last part about Wobshall have anything whatsoever to do about the first 3 lines?

    Fourth, define average.

    Fifth, when you say “if not for the runs” are you talking about diarhea or what?

    PEOPLE LIKE THIS ARE CRITICIZING F.L. JONES???

    (I BETTER ADD THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF IMPOSTERS ON HERE, I DON’T REMEMBER RICHARD1A HAVING THIS BAD OF A POST, SO IT’S PROBABLY AN IMPOSTER. SOMEONE ALSO TRIED TO IMITATE jones)

  180. By Frederick Jones on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    I DON’T KNOW WHO WROTE THIS, BUT THEY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO WRITE ON VIKINGS.COM.

    “Why do I think Webb can be a running back? because his qb play is average, if that, the only reason people think he can play qb is because he scrambles out of there and does some great runs, if not a receiver, other wise if not for the runs, what has he done? nothing! I emailed Wobshall about somebody impersonating here.”

  181. By Frederick Jones on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Of the 181 or so posts, about 110 are probably about Joe Webb.

  182. By Mike B. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Joe Webb provides a good backup QB to Ponder. He has the ability to come in off the bench and perform well enough to not lose a game. He is not ready to come in and be the starter for this or any other football team. He doesn’ have the pocket presence to be a starting QB in the NFL, curently. It is very possible with work, he could become a starting QB at some point in the future, but not now. It is possible that Sage or the Rookie could beat out Webb for the second spot. Webb has been with the team for 3 Seasons now and is not a starter. I think that’s the coaches decision. From what I have seen of his performances, he has not proven himself more than the experiement that Childress had in mind. TJack also is probably losing his starting job this year. It’s about game to game consistant peformance that’s it.

  183. By Spencer on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

  184. By Spencer on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Get over it Fred, Webb is the backup and Ponder is the starter. You’re starting to be annoying as he||.

  185. By Matthias on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Peterson won’t play a preseason game after all:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000052628/article/vikings-adrian-peterson-wont-play-in-preseason

  186. By Matthias on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Fred does not equal Fred… Fred simply has to many fans blogging with his name.

  187. By OTKalil2012 on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    I wonder if Carr might not even be in the final cuts getting down to the 53 man roster ???…

    Carr hasn’t played well this preseason…

    And many of the younger players have done well…

  188. By OTKalil2012 on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Looking forward to seeing Blanton when he finally gets to play…

    Hope he gets the chance this week ??…

  189. By Matthias on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    BMW VW and Mercedes have to be the three worst car brands on the road right now!

  190. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Spoken like a true non-German.

  191. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Cook is out so who should cover Robert Meachum?
    Glad Jo-Ro is going to get more reps. From what he showed last week he has a very bright future and he is only 21.

  192. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Carr maybe able to learn a playbook but he sure as he[[ can’t cover.

  193. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Cook, Winfield, Robinson, Burton, Felder, and Sherels should be the CBs this year. Carr is a scrub! Bowman is below average. Give the young guys a chance to show what they got. Get rid of the old busted can’t keep a job players.

  194. By Spencer on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Meachem hasnt done anything so far.

  195. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    If we still need a CB after this year go after David Amerson. 6’3 shut down corner. 13 INTS last year.

  196. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    I know that Spencer but with Vincent Brown being injuried Meachum is likely listed as their no. 1.

  197. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Eddie Royal also at one time was a decent WR but lately he is just a KR/PR guy.

  198. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    The guy to likely get the most targets is Antonio Gates. Anyone think are LBs can cover him?
    Greenway should do well.

  199. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    I sure Smith can cover him successfully.

  200. By Matthias on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    i bet i could

  201. By rogerthevikefan on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Did you mean Meachump? Cause he never lived up to his potential.
    Eddie Royal will get broiled.
    Gates is old and injury prone and yes both Greenway and Smith can likely take him out of the game.

  202. By rogerthevikefan on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Meachump was never the guy with Brees at QB he has always been a no. 2.

  203. By Matthias on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    No 1 stunna

  204. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Yes Meachump is what I meant.

  205. By Matthias on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    No I meant Me Chump

  206. By Frederick Jones on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    @Spencer,

    Never did I say Webb was not the backup.

    You are the reason you feel picked on, jones never specifically targeted ANYONE.

    Now I may have IMPLIED that someone was a racist. It is your problem if you feel picked on.

    But don’t invent things to rip me on. I always admitted Ponder was the starter, but he could lose the starting job.

    Honestly I don’t have anything against you. You are imagining things.

  207. By Frederick Jones on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    As far as converting Joe Webb to RB/WR jones would like to share a statement made by Andy Griffith:

    “Ain’t we picking our peaches before they fuzzed up good?”

    In the meantime, how can we get more info on the defensive and offensive lines. That is where football is played.

  208. By Spencer on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Good Grief man. This is like one of those made for tv movies about cyber bullying. Get a grip man anything said on here isn’t reallity. Go talk to some people you can actually see and don’t take anything you see on a website in the future to heart!

    And stop speaking in the third person its not cool. It makes you sound ignorante

  209. By Spencer on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    You need a new name Spencer, but anyways I guess i’d put Josh Robinson on Meachem just because I have little to no faith in Chris Carr. I thought he would be able to hold down the fort this year…so far hes proving me wrong.

  210. By Spencer on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    I was excited about Car to but he has done nothing but disapoint so far in the preseason.

  211. By Deer Tracks on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    My bad on that last post. It had Spencer generated in my name box for some reason. Sorry Spencer!

  212. By OTKalil2012 on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Sherels is Mr consistency…He doesn’t make a lot of huge plays in the return game…

    But Sherels will not cough up the ball and make big mistakes either…

    And Sherels also is a very sure tackler when playing defense…

    I think Sherels will be a part of the 53 man roster when the season begins…

  213. By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Fraizer thinks Cook could get back to practice on Wensday but even if he does he will be held out of the game.
    Robinson on the Chump, Winfield on Broil, and Carr on the bench.
    Gates is gonna be lit up by Smith.

  214. By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    So know everyone knows DT is the imposter. Ignore him and he may go away.

  215. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Jimmy that would be like ignoring a bad rash. Sometimes you need to go see a doctor to get rid of it.

  216. By Spencer on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    By Deer Tracks on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply
    My bad on that last post. It had Spencer generated in my name box for some reason. Sorry Spencer!
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………….

    The only way for it to be “generated” in the name box is if you’ve used the name before…….

    F-ckin troll.

  217. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    DT = a Farging Icehole

  218. By Spencer on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Hopefully this MJD contract issue doesnt get resolved till after we play them. The run defense is still suspect in my mind so it would be a pleasure not having to face a premier running back.

  219. By OTKalil2012 on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    I just wonder what kind of magic Audie Cole can muster up this week…

    Week 1…Gets a sack…

    Week 2…2 interceptions for TD’s…

    Week 3…3 fumble recoveries ?????…hahaha…

    And the young man has such a hometown humble personality… : )

  220. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    By Spencer:

    And stop speaking in the third person its not cool. It makes you sound ignorante

    HA HA HA HA HA HA.

    Drop the e oh great wise one! Actually, referring to oneself in the third person is reflective and some great thinkers have done it throughout the ages.

  221. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Fred– I got your back, brother.

  222. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Cole will create 3 turnovers. Not sure if it will all be INTs or FF maybe it will be a mix.

  223. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Well H.M.G. thinks H.M.G. is a great man.

  224. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    From now on H.M.G. will talk of himself in the third person.

  225. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    H.M.G. is already sick of it. No more will H.M.G. talk of himself in the third person.

  226. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Titus RULES!!!

  227. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    The only way Titus rules is if he is him and not the Farging Icehole know as DeerTracks. Man he is a Corksucker.

  228. By rogerthevikefan on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Are you useing the insults from Johnny Dangerously? Michael Keaton is/was awesome. Is he still acting?

  229. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Yes I am and yes Mr. Keaton is awesome. I think he is working on Beetlejuice 2.

  230. By Deer Tracks... on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    H.M.G. That is NOT me doing the imposter bit. I had you firgured to be intelligent

    enough to be able to tell. But then you aren’t. You and the other dumb A$$holes that

    think so can go hump a duck. Just wait, the imposter clown will hit you next!

    Go get ‘em, imposter! Myself, I no longer care if you use my name. Have fun!

  231. By Richard1A on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    T. Jack? I think Seattle cut him this weekend. Seriously, has Webb impressed us with his qb skills? no, his running with the ball, he does like never seen before, give him the ball to run with not qb! So I’m driving by the dome along the Mississippi, I countless, endless amounts of Viking ships, Drekars there called, Vikings all over the shoreline, there is a giant camp set up, camp fires, pigs, cows, deer roasting, Vikings sloshing drink around cheersing each other, I then looked really close and I could see thwe whole Viking team just, well, going berzerk, getting pumped up for the game, its going to be a wild night come friday, I can’t wait!

  232. By Bluebird7 on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    May I suggest we all just set back and see what both Ponder and Webb, do this year. I like them both.. GO VIKINGS!

  233. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Good suggestion, think I will try you on for size.

  234. By oDIm on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Gerhard should the main one for season start. Move Harvin to the outside and put AP in the slot. Save AP from the pits, use AP arounds and for blitz pick ups, and Toss to him and Toby as outlets. Save AP for CJ. Start AP when we pkay CJ and the Titans.

  235. By Frederick Jones on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe this website will get better once the season starts.

    The Washington Redskins had several blogsites, if my memory is serving me right.

    They might have one asking about who the Redskins should draft, perhaps another about the QBs, another about defense, and maybe several more on other topics. Then you had to sign in each time you used the site.

    That would be a GOOD way to go on Vikings.com.

    ( I was against it before, but now we have so many guys postering as other bloggers. Mike Wobschall it’s time for a change.)

  236. By Matthias on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Ignore all the stupid comments… That’s it.

  237. By Matthias on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    If we are playing like last week during the regular season we could be in the 8-8 range I guess, maybe even better.

  238. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    False H.M.G.
    I really don’t care if you use this name but remember if you continue to act as if you are some one else you may in fact lose yourself.

  239. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    DT if you were not an imposter why did you end up posting as Spencer?
    You have given away the fact you post as others numerous times. Maybe if you only post as yourself others wont always think you are the man behind the falsehoods.

  240. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe if people would grow the F*CK UP and stop acting like they are others this site would not be in the pits.

  241. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    @Matthias
    8-8 would be great. But with Brinkley as the MLB and playing not to make mistakes insteed of trying to make plays I don’t see it. You could throw Carr in there as a resean that 8-8 may not work out.
    Cole needs to replace Brinkley if he does not step up.
    Carr just needs to go away.

  242. By Mike B. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    TJack is still on the Seahawks Roster as he is guaranteed 4M this year. They need to trade him and recoop some of that money.

  243. By Mike B. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    oh and he’s been benched for the duration.

  244. By Rocksalt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Todd Akin……..LOL! What a sad situation in GOPville.HahaHa!

  245. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Sounds like Russel Wilson will be the Seahawks starting QB.

  246. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t discuss polotics but d@mn he really $crewed the pooch on that one. I don’t no why people don’t think before speaking. If people used there heads more less things would go bad.

  247. By rocksalt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    I can accept a true mis-spoken word, but his words seem to reflect a deeper underlying issue within the GOP…anti womens health and reproductive rights, pro life agenda, anti civil rights, pro devlopment/anti ecology, pro corporation, anti middle class.

  248. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Very ignorant comments today.

  249. By rocksalt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    you are right to include yourself ,emperor

  250. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Barinwashed followers of an agenda which they have no ideological understanding.

  251. By OTKalil2012 on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    I heard yesterday Flyn was supposed to have the starter position now…But Wilson is pushing him for the job…

    Not sure why DeerTracks would incriminate himself as the impostor by being foolish enough to apologize to Spencer…

    I mean if someone is buying that one…

    I have some ocean front property in Idaho for sale cheap !!

  252. By OTKalil2012 on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    The front office in Seattle paid big bucks to get Flyn…

    He at least has to start the season I suppose…

    But might be on a short leash if he doesn’t produce early…

  253. By Deer Tracks... on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    OTKail2012 and H.M.G. Both of you were taken in by the imposter using my name!

    I never apologized to Spencer, as I had nothing to apologize for.

    What the he11 is going on around here? Some of you are really lost.

  254. By rocksalt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Deer Tracks-
    This site is in it’s death throes………go to vikingsfootballblog.com

  255. By Deer Tracks... on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    OTKail, I re-read your post, and now I apologize to you, as I can now see you were not

    taken in by that birddog imposter, Thanks. Wish few others would also use their brains

  256. By OTKalil2012 on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    No problem DT…

  257. By ozzinator on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Bathsalt, you are as ignorant as the libs you entertain.

  258. By rocksalt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Ahh.Wizzinator.the VOX POPULI!!!………..LOL…NOT!

  259. By rocksalt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Wizzinator thinks he speaks for rational people!GOOD LUCK with your extremist right propaganda!!!!!! HAHAHAHA

  260. By Deer Tracks(...) on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    OTK, H.M.T. Spencer, all of you go back up to the DT post to Spencer.

    Look at my name DeerTracks.. Do you see a * in the upper corner? No? Well that

    proves it was the imposter..I had been using that as a cue they are my posts.

    The imposter found out later and used it ! Now I have the (…) Which the dirbag will use, however, I won’t after this post. I*f you see (…) You will know it’s not Me. Watch out for the imposter taking after YOU now..

  261. By Deer Tracks* on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    See what I mean?

  262. By rocksalt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    vikingsfootballblog.com

  263. By Spoiler Alert on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Wow, Titus. I have to agree with you 100%. There are many ignorant comments being posted today. Rocksalt, I’m afraid true political ideology is not as black and white as you are making it. There are many shades of grey which seem to have escaped you. Be it conservative or liberal, political idealism is anything but what you are making of it.

  264. By rocksalt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    the effects of idealism are real, Spoiler..wake up! your apologist approach is patheticlly ignorant.

  265. By rocksalt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Two words.one name: Todd Akin.

  266. By Spencer on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    I dont get it, DeerTracks hasnt been around for like 2 weeks and the second he “comes back” is when the imposter stuff happens?

    Dude is full of sh-t.

  267. By Spencer on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    But anyways, GameDay is approaching….hopefully we can beat the p!ss outta the Charges!!

  268. By Spoiler Alert on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    No rocksalt, your knowitall but know nothing attitude is pathetic. I studied Political Science at the U, how about you?

  269. By Spoiler Alert on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    I have an idea, rocksalt. Why not explain the effects of idealism to us. Let’s see how thought out your ideology is, or perhaps you have listened to Hannity or Olbermann too much. If you even know who they are.

  270. By Spoiler Alert on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    I’ll give you a hint, rocksalt. They are on that idiot box you feed your face in front of everyday. You know what I’m talking about. It’s called a TV, that thing that keeps you from employment because you are much more satisfied watching it and collecting food stamps.

  271. By rocksalt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    LOL.talk about know-it-all. spoiler…you seem to speak from experience………….

  272. By rocksalt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    and a postion of both ignorance and fear/hatred…..a volatile combination as your comments no doubt have suggested..

  273. By rocksalt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    BTW spoiler.I jus loves ta spends mah food stamps on fried chicken an 40oz malt likkers////////

  274. By Spoiler Alert on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    What’s wrong, Rocksalt. Did this conversation go over your head? I’m still waiting for you to explain the effects of political idealism. What is your ideology, since you seem to know so much about political idealism. Oh, can’t answer?? Is it too complicated for your pea-brain to comprehend?

  275. By Spoiler Alert on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    i’m sure you do. Can you use your food stamps for ciggarettes and schlitz malt liqour? Or do you depend on borrowing money from you mommy for that.

  276. By Spoiler Alert on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Do you even know what a thought out idea is, Rocksalt?

  277. By rocksalt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Spoiler.. .you are not worth the minor intellectual effort….go back to your little playpen
    Your idealogy no doubt follows the lunacy of the right wing extremists that seem to favor untruths, pseudo-science, and religiuos conservatism.this just by judging your reactionary angry response……….LOL…

  278. By SkolVikes98 on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Now children.. do I need to have the admin send you to your rooms?!

  279. By SkolVikes98 on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Sooooo…. I’m starting to get the feeling that some commenters from the new blog site are trying to make this site havoc to push everyone else over there?

  280. By rocksalt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Global warming is a liberal myth
    All Muslims are terroriists
    Medicare is bad
    Corporations should monitor themsleves
    The poor are lazy
    Women have equal rights
    Minorities have equalrights
    Tax cuts for the wealthy will be good for economy
    Govermentsshould be limited, unless it comes to military or birth control/

  281. By rocksalt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    The check is in the mail
    LOL!!!!!

  282. By rocksalt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Romney paid his taxes……..LOLOLOL!

  283. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Corporations are evil– raise corporate taxation, entrench unionized labor to milk every cent and then when wonder why manufacturing moves overseas and unemployment rises.

  284. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Government should tell me what to believe, how to raise my family, and what I should consider as right and wrong.

  285. By RunninReb on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    @SkolVikes Why? you think they want that shlt over there? The imposter really has destroyed this site, which is what his goal was i’m sure. Either vikingsfool or some pathetic fudgepacker, whoever it is has some serious issues.

  286. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Spoiler I studied Political Science at Miami U and the U of MN.

  287. By Spencer on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Are y’all seriously talking Politics on a blog that is about Toby Gerhart?

  288. By packhater on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    I fu*kin hate the green bay packers.

  289. By rocksalt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    well if you believ e corporations are the answer then your political science education was ineffective.

  290. By rocksalt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    When you are willing to pay more to allow manufacturing to be here rather than China, then you have the right to defend the good of corporations……put up or shut up.

  291. By packhater on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    It dont care how smart you people are. Im a graduate of FU. Now let’s talk about Toby.

  292. By rocksalt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Toby good.rest AP

  293. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Liberal policies created outsourcing — truth hurts, eh, Rocksalt? Ignorance abounds.

  294. By rocksalt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Conservative(read pro business) deregulation led to outsourcing…..See Reagan, Titus Falvius IIgnoramus

  295. By rocksalt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Liberalism encourages government regulation over corporate choice. Conservatism encourages corporate regulation over individual choice.

  296. By Spoiler Alert on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    You’ve definatly studied it more than myself. For me, it was only a minor. I majored in history, but chose a poly-sci minor for its compliment to my major. It’s not exactly a discipline that is going to be a career aid, but it does offer some insight into the real world.

  297. By packhater on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    If we’re too conservative with AP and Toby gets deregulated , who will we manufacture as the RB?

  298. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Liberal ideologues promote higher corporate taxation and stronger unions, which combined create hostile atmosphere for such entities, especially unionized wages, which are sky high compared to outsourced labor– which is the categorically number one, core, main reason corporations moved manufacturing outside the USA. WAKE UP Rocksalt– perhaps your brain is hardened by the clever ideological strongholds of the party you worship?

  299. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Next label me as a hater and a bigot, intolerant of others– the mantra of your dogmatic zeal.

  300. By Spoiler Alert on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    We will create a RB out of used football parts. We will put him together in a lab, attach him to a lightening rod, and use 1.21 gigiwatts to create a all purpose RB. He will be named, Adrian Frankenson. He’ll be strong and fast, but kinda dumb.

  301. By packhater on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Okay fellas , I must say this ………….STFU!!!!!!!!!!!! Who Cares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  302. By packhater on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    That wasnt directed at you Spoiler. Lol

  303. By rocksalt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Titus Ignoramus….
    You pay more for manufactured products here.iand support a manufacutring and consumption economy that allows folks to make a decent living, rather than worshipping the “free market” system of lowest cost highest profit. If not then shut your pie hole!

  304. By Spoiler Alert on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    It’s true, Rocksalt. Listen to the man, he knows what he is talking about. Liberal ideology is generaly geared toward a unionized workforce. Corporations would much rather outsource to un-organized workers, rather than deal with the demands of worker unions. Now, granted, labor unions do serve some good, but there are plenty of negatives that come along with it. Like I said, too many shades of grey to stand firmly on one side of the line. In my opinion, it’s a moderate stance that is best suited to fix this country. You know what a moderate is, Rocksalt? Or is your rash idealism the only way to fix this country?

  305. By Spencer on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Since we’re all getting off topic at the moment, have any of you seen the show “Beyond Scared Straight” on A&E?

    Im hooked.

  306. By packhater on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    …………….but now it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  307. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Spoiler– they label us as intolerant but they get dogmatic crazy angry like religious zealots against us– we are not allowed to have a voice, but rather demonized and villanized as hatemongers– so far from the truth. WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT , NO WE’RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT.

  308. By Spoiler Alert on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Titus, in the words of today’s youth, “true dat”. No matter which side of the aisle you stand, the other will always demonize your stance. I take a stance of neither, or in other words, moderate. I can agree with some conservatives and liberals, but I can also disagree with all conservatives and liberals. Cretins like Rocksalt, they cannot understand a moderate stance.

  309. By Spoiler Alert on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Oh yeah, I forgot. WE’RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT…..ANYMORE. (guitar solo)

  310. By packhater on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    C’mon. Dont make me email Wobs like freddy did. This is getting old.

  311. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    NO, We’re not going to take it, No, we’re not gonna take it ANYMORE!!!!

  312. By Frederick Jones on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry gents, but this one is worth repeating or said in different words. This blog has to many imitators on it. It’s not a fun blog any more!

    The Washington Redskins had several blogsites, if my memory is serving me right.

    They might have one asking about who the Redskins should draft, perhaps another about the QBs, another about defense, and maybe several more on other topics. Then you had to sign in each time you used the site.

    That would be a GOOD way to go on Vikings.com.

    ( I was against it before, but now we have so many guys postering as other bloggers. Mike Wobschall it’s time for a change.)

  313. By Frederick Jones on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    @packerhater,

    You seem like a sane person. We need to change this blog so that people must be who they are, and not be alternate egos.

    As it is you have no idea who you are talking to, and some posts are impossible to read.

  314. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Fred, I got your back brother!

  315. By packhater on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Yes Frederick Jones, you are 100% correct this time my friend.

  316. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Frederick Jones and Titus go way back.

  317. By packhater on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Hey, It would be nice if someone could put some footage of Toby tearing $hit up. Stanford or Vikes. Give the man some love!!!! since no one wanted to talk about him.

  318. By Skol_Vikes98 on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    @Runnin ….. It was just a thought. I noticed Rocksalt and some others talk about the new boards, and it the imposters lately have been over the top. It was just a thought that there might be like one impostor who is just being a troll for the sake of pushing people off of Vikings.com because they moderate (sometimes) harder with language and such, but they don’t have a full time moderator. Ive never seen this new site, but it just seemed like a plausible explanation for all of the imposters trolling the board.

  319. By rocksalt on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Forgive me everyone, I was just fooling with you, I truly love the Republicans. The Dam Unions will be the death of us all! They are nothing but the strong arm of big business and the enforcers of the mafia.

  320. By DRS. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Sounds good that Gerhart is getting better

  321. By DRS. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    rocksalt, are you on a rant once more, Nice to see that you are back and inform.

  322. By DRS. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Peace to one and all.

  323. By DRS. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Good night.

  324. By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    How do you stop crime?

  325. By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    You beat right and wrong in to people from a young age. Otherwise you get a guy who thinks stabbing young kiddies is ok.

  326. By DRS. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    By the way who was that last rocksalt? It can not be the rocksalt I know. Bye for now.

  327. By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Basically what I mean is you do it like you would potty train a young puppy. They go to the bathroom you rub there noise in it and give a crack on the back side. Next time harder. They will learn pretty fast that way.

  328. By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Stop babying criminals otherwise soceity will be destroyed.

  329. By VegasVike on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    What night is bridge night?

  330. By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply
    Basically what I mean is you do it like you would potty train a young puppy. They go to the bathroom you rub there noise in it and give a crack on the back side. Next time harder. They will learn pretty fast that way.
    Meant: They go to the bathroom inside then you do that stuff.

  331. By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Shrinks over think children with problems proper disicipline will remove the culture of babying those who act like F*CK HEADS.

  332. By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    You baby a criminal they think what the did was good. You punish them they learn real quick what is right and wrong.

  333. By REALLY on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Floggings and hanging should be brought back.
    Just locking criminals up just gives them more time to plan on how to be a better criminal.

  334. By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Exactly. The justice system is a joke and that make be the only way to fix it.

  335. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    cough…No comment… cough…

  336. By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Televized Floggings would send a strong message to any would be criminals.
    Hanging for Killers and Kiddy rappers.

  337. By Woodboat on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply
    By Spencer:
    And stop speaking in the third person its not cool. It makes you sound ignorante
    HA HA HA HA HA HA.
    Drop the e oh great wise one! Actually, referring to oneself in the third person is
    reflective and some great thinkers have done it throughout the ages.

    Yeah…. like Ricky Williams. ;)

  338. By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    It may be the only way to stop rising crime rates.

  339. By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Floggings would cost a lot less then having so one locked up for “rehabilitation” (BE COMING A BETTER CRIMINAL)
    It is the only way to save this country.

  340. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Would people not be crying human rights violations on this plan Jimmy?

  341. By Spencer on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Most criminals are a product of society and they are not born criminals. Crime always rises when you have a population living in desperate conditions.

    Im willing to bet that 97% of people in prison are dirt poor.

  342. By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    The only rights a person has is the right to live a life. If they harm others they should be punished. Right now the punishments criminals are getting are not working. So thing needs changed.
    People are not getting the message. Even after a Kiddy rapper is locked up some one else comes along and does it again.
    Does raping a young child not violate there RIGHTS?
    THINGS NEED TO CHANGE!

  343. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    I do agree things need to change.

  344. By Spencer on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    We need to give the young people something to look forward to in life. They seem to have this do or die attitude that seems to stop some of them wanting to look forward to turning 30.

    Parents taking responsibility of their children would also help. Young people need to be guided and shown that they are worth something by their parents/carers.

    And if the government spent less time talking about what they are going to do and actually put something into place I do believe that we could be on our way to having a generation that cares as to what happens to themselves and those around them.

  345. By Woodboat on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Whew… sure glad I missed the liberals versus conservatives fight. Talk about a battle that neither side can win, huh?

    So… we are on to what, beating kids versus beating criminals? Hmm… not much better than the political “debate”.

    I’ll take a crack at this one, though.

    I believe… that most people don’t have the most basic concept in their heart when they are in the process of raising their kids. The concept is this:

    You aren’t supposed to raise kids. You are supposed to be raising happy, productive adults.

    If everyone took this simple truth into their hearts, the country would be much better off.

  346. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Agreed Spencer

  347. By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    @Woodboat
    I not saying just beat the kid. I’m saying give them a nice crack when they do something wrong and explaining why it was wrong.
    There is a differance between abusing kids and teaching them right and wrong.

  348. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    I thought this was a football blog.

  349. By Woodboat on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    OH, and by the way…

    Toby Gerhart DOES look poised to take an increased role this season. I have always thought he could be a strong contributor to this or any other NFL squad if given the reps. He was a beast in college and that usually translates very well to the league.

    Sorry about talking about football in the middle of your debate… carry on.

  350. By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    You teach a kid how to be an adult by teaching them right and wrong. People are not born with a moral comp@ss.

  351. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Hey now, I was the original Toby supporter– I could see his progression in each game his rookie season. And most of you laughed at me. Woodboat, I am not sure where you were on it, but a lot of people were saying he was a wasted pick. Funny, now everyone is praising him.

  352. By Spencer on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Flogging or hanging wouldnt stop a dam thing. Bottom line is this if you’re dirt poor you would do virtually anything just to survive. Whether it be robbing people or selling drugs!

  353. By Spencer on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Just look at this 16yr old.

  354. By Woodboat on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    @Jimmy..

    I’ve spanked my kids a total of 6 times combined… and only when they had lost complete control of themselves and weren’t listening at all… just screaming and throwing a fit.

    Every other time other forms of discipline have worked just fine for me. The knowledge that Dad *might* give them a swat on the backside if they don’t restrain themselves and listen is a good aid in making sure we can resolve problems.

    I don’t condone physical abuse on anyone, especially children. I don’t think the occasional swat harms a child in the long run. I got spanked when I was a kid and I turned out well adjusted, happy, and love my parents with all my heart.

  355. By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    In todays world everyone cries abuse when ever a parent gets after there kid. But if a kid is never punished for doing something wrong then they are more likely to become a criminal.

  356. By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    @Woodboat
    I agree. The thought of what might happen if you’re bad changes how people act.

  357. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    @Woodboat
    100% agree.
    Now can this be over?

  358. By Woodboat on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Nah, I never thought he was a wasted pick, Titus. You have to have 2 RBs in todays league, which seems odd because every calls it a “passing” league. We are lucky that All Day is just that, all day. However, when he needs a breather or we need a change of pace (or someone that can block… sorry AP), Toby is our man.

    To prove I back Toby, some of you might recall that early last season I suggested that the team might… MIGHT… be better off if we traded Peterson. Gerhart is a very serviceable RB, and if we could have gotten some top picks or probowlers in positions of need, I’d have said trade AP. I got metaphorical bricks lobbed at me (perhaps understandably), but I don’t think I was wrong.

  359. By Woodboat on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    H.M.G.

    Yes, yes it can.

  360. By Spencer on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    How did this even start?

  361. By Woodboat on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    I think one can argue that Gerhart MIGHT be a better all around RB than Peterson.

    He’s not as dynamic a runner as AP is… noone is. But he blocks better, he catches better, he has APs ability to hit the gap.

    He doesn’t have Adrian’s ability to take it to the house on any given play, which is why Peterson is still the MAN!!!

  362. By Woodboat on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer…

    scroll up, if you dare. I didn’t bother, I just jumped in mid-stream… a bad habit of mine.

  363. By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    One last thing then I’m done:
    If people see the punishments televized it would instill a fear of it and thus likely scaring off people who thought of doing something criminal.
    I just hope things change in the near future because it is already getting out of hand. Look at Chicago.
    Alright now I’m done.

  364. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Some more ignorant comments. Spencer– poverty is not always a precursor to criminal behavior. Time for bed. Titus has had enough for one evening, but I’ll be back!!!!

  365. By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry about this just felt like ranting about the horror that is the justice system.

  366. By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Right Titus not everyone who is poor is bound to be a criminal.

  367. By Spencer on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Never said poverty is always a precursor to turning to criminal behavior. But a lot of people that turn to crime are poor.

  368. By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    The reason I went off is because someone close to me was beaten by some one and the guy is getting off with a d@mn plea deal. Again I am sorry for my rant.

  369. By Jimmy on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    I highly doubt that the B@STARD will learn any thing. Oh and for the record the guy who did the beating was getting paid $10 a hour.

  370. By H.M.G. on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Well sorry the person you are close to was hurt. Hopefully the guy will get his in the future.

  371. By Woodboat on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    A lot of people that turn to VIOLENT crime are poor. Criminals come from every walk of life. Some vagrant mugging you with a broken beer bottle for the 20 bucks in your wallet is bad… some corporate a hole absconding with the contents of your investment portfolio is exponentially worse (obviously).

    Personally, I’d like to see the latter punished much more severely than the former, but the “white’collar” criminal has your money to hire the best lawyers, so he gets to walk. Worse yet (swinging this back to politics… sorry…), he can use your money to “lobby” (bribe) Congress to make laws that allow him to rob you legally.

    Meh…. this is too much for me this evening. Good night, my purple friends.

  372. By Spencer on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Irvine, California: Population, 212k
    Median income: $111,455
    Violent crimes since 2011? 136

    Flint, Colorado: Population, 102k
    Median income: $30,108
    Violent crimes since 2011? 2,436

  373. By Spencer on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Poverty is a precursor for criminal activity…

  374. By Spencer on Aug 21, 2012 | Reply

    Dam, I meant Flint, Michigan.

  375. By Jimmy on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    The Atkin thing is the reason I brought this up. Rappers need to be hung.

  376. By Jimmy on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry again to much detail.

  377. By H.M.G. on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    Well this was intense. Talk later. Sleepy time now.

  378. By Deer Tracks* on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    To He11 with Spencer, and to HE!! with this Site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  379. By DRS. on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    Words that strike fear: Vikings (reportedly) interested in Tarvaris Jackson
    Posted by: Michael Rand under Vikings Updated: August 21, 2012 – 3:17 PM

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/166942336.html

    do not say it is so.

  380. By DRS. on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    Classic Minnesota Vikings video: Mud Bowl ’77

    http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_21347637/classic-minnesota-vikings-video-mud-bowl-77?source=rss

    the good old days, how I miss them.

  381. By DRS. on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    have to go for now, have fun.

  382. By Viks8&8 on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    @ Titus
    While some of your blogging might not be what I prefer, your political thinking is right on point. For all of you who were arguing with him take the NFL ref’s as a reference point. I challenge one of you to tell me that you wouldn’t go out and Ref a NFL game for 8 grand. Thats a pretty darn good part time job, but you have a Union of people on strike saying that they deserve more. They are abusing their power as a union to demand more compensation based on a thought that they deserve more because they want more.

    Maybe some of you that disagree think the Goverment should take over the NFL. Who need Roger Goodell to police people Obama can do it! PSSHHHH some people need to get out and understand both sides of the fence before they decide they are on the side that is right.

  383. By ozzinator on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    True that Viks8&8!

  384. By Frederick Jones on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    Hate begets hate, and the cycle continues.

    The world has a history of beatings, and other corporeal punishments. Most of us have learned that it is not the way to go.

    Sure I can hit my kid, and it makes the noise or whatever go away. He will refrain from doing the deed in front of me next time. But what else did he learn???

    Might makes right is what he learned. Is that what we want to teach our youth?

  385. By Frederick Jones on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    What do you think of Adrian Peterson sitting out all of the pre-season games?

    Should he play in the Jacksonville game?

    Perhaps Pete should sit out half the season so we are absolutely sure he is healthy enought to with stand the rigors of the NFL.

    Visions of a former NFL running back from my area of the country come to mind. He played 4 seasons in the NFL, and was his team’s leading rusher during one of them. Now he can barely climb a short flight of steps.

    He was also a track and basketball star in high school.

  386. By OTKalil2012 on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    Nice try Rick…

    But if you think showing interest in T Jack will throw other teams (GB???)interest in (flame thrower) Bethel-Thompson ???…So you can try and sneak him to the practice squad…

    Its not going to happen…

    Cole will never make the practice squad either…So you better find a spot for him on the 53 man roster also…

    And find a way to keep Sherels..Or special teams play is going to go down hill in a hurry…

  387. By Frederick Jones on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    386 posts in on blog is too many.

    Does anyone else agree with that statement?

  388. By Frederick Jones on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    “on” should be one.

  389. By Viks8&8 on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    I agree I thinks Wobs took another Vacation

  390. By ozzinator on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    Oz agrees with Fred’s statement

  391. By OTKalil2012 on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    When it comes to AP…

    The first game I would unleash the beast to play in the Lions game in week 4…

    If you ask me why ??…I’m not sure my reasoning…

    Other than AP might feel a little more at ease against a division foe…And defensive tendencies of players he would be going against…In a rivalry…Less thought is put into games…And more heart…

    Might be just what AP needs coming back…

  392. By OTKalil2012 on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    Good topic for a NEW BLOG that Fred brought up about AP and when he should play a game…

    What you think Wobbs ???….

  393. By OTKalil2012 on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    Also would like the fact AP would be playing that division game AWAY…For his first game back in action…

    Might keep AP from trying to do too much in front of the home town crowd…

  394. By Spencer on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    I would so play AP week 3, but we play one of the best run defenses in the NFL so…

    Week 4 vs the Lions would be better.

  395. By H.M.G. on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    @Fred Jones
    Here is a breakdown of Logan Thomas enjoy.
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1297001-tale-of-the-tape-is-logan-thomas-really-the-next-cam-newton

  396. By OTKalil2012 on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    NEW BLOG …..YEAH !!!

  397. By H.M.G. on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    Yes I do support the young man and think he has a better mental makeup than Cam Newton.

  398. By H.M.G. on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    You can’t post on it. your talking about the Brinkley one right?

  399. By Frederick Jones on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    @Woodboat,

    You are right, freddie, fred, the jones boy, etc. WOULDN’T SWEAR!!!

    Someone is imitating me.

    Actually I think someone has imitated Woodboat, Titus, H.M.G., OTK, etc.,
    it’s like I said…you don’t know who you are talking to any more!!!

  400. By odark30 on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    This article mentions that Gerhart is running with a noticably lower pad level this year. Just think how dangerous AP would be if the coaches could get him to lower his a bit.

  401. By rocksalt on Aug 22, 2012 | Reply

    the last post using rocksalt was an imposter………….rocksalt will not back down from the truth of liberal vs conservative………..

  402. By Ozzinator on Aug 23, 2012 | Reply

    Nor will Bathsalt make any sense either………

  403. By puckertrucker on Aug 25, 2012 | Reply

    If Gerhart plays like he did in lastnights game against SD he should be third string running back. He ran like his pantyhose were twisted in his crotch 6 carries and 13 or was it 18 yards. anyway if thats all the better he can play take him and put him on the sidelines next to no emotion Frazier. I think that will be his New Nickname No Emotion Frazier. The One And Only PuckerTrucker!!!!!!!Skol Fans

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