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Griffen Moving Back To Defensive End, Frazier Says

Posted by Mike Wobschall on August 14, 2012 – 6:15 am

All offseason there was chatter that Everson Griffen would make the transition from DE to LB. And then during training camp the chatter stopped and the move commenced.

A few weeks and one preseason game later, Griffen is moving back to DE.

“We saw enough of [Griffen] at linebacker where we feel that [defensive end] is going to be better for him,” Frazier said, according to KFAN.com’s AJ Mansour. “We talked to him Sunday night when we got back and he agrees that it’s better to be able to focus on that position.”

Griffen had been taking turns at LB with the third-team defense, primarily, and the thought was his combination of size (6-3, 273 pound) and athleticism would make him a good fit at LB, especially because he was behind a pair of effective starters at DE (Jared Allen and Brian Robison). After a worthwhile experiment, however, the Vikings have decided it’s better for the player and the team that Griffen move back to DE. Mansour notes, though, that Griffen could still play LB in some third-down situations.


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40 Responses to “Griffen Moving Back To Defensive End, Frazier Says”

  1. By Mike B. on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    first Guess they need changes in LB

  2. By sunnyazvike on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    good move, but man are we stacked at that position. We all know Jared isnt going to rotate more than a couple times a game.

  3. By Rick on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    Griffen should be worked into the rotation with Brian Robison IMO. Robison isn’t a bad DE but by splitting up some of the reps he might actually still be effective in the 4th quarter but hey who am I to make the calls I just watch the game from the comfort of my living room not the sidelines

  4. By sunnyazvike on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    next move, put Marvin Mitch ell in nickle over Erin henderson.

  5. By Todd B. on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    Obviously the mental aspect was too much

  6. By sunnyazvike on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    I agree Rick. B-rob should get 60 %, and griff should get the other 40.

  7. By sunnyazvike on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    I wonder if Griffen’s new weight will be a factor at DE. He didnt seem to get much pressure last game when used to rush.

  8. By sunnyazvike on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    Wobby any chance we can get an interview with Bobby Felder, want to see this kids personality.

  9. By Woodboat on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    If they aren’t going to use him at LB, they ought to think about maybe trading him. I really like the guy, and Robison as well, and would rather keep him if for no other reason than insurance… but if we could get another quality player that would actually be able to start on sundays, that would be a good thing.

  10. By sunnyazvike on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    You never get much trade value for a non starting player, Griffen is young. Dont forget Robison is not a spring chicken, youth movement has arrived.

  11. By Deer Tracks* on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    I have nothing further to say concerning Joe Webb, I will let his actions speak for him.

    Sooner or later, he will be on the field winning games, that is if the OL will hold up.

    Kalil, that means you! Protect Webb the same as you would Ponder!!

  12. By sunnyazvike on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    1st string QB is CP7. Why do you want him to fail? Plus Webb has shown nothing in the only preseason game so far to warrant that kind of comment? Way off base IMO.

  13. By dogdiesel3 on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    Now if they move Web to WR it will help solve the WR problem and would allow them to keep Bethel-Thompson.

  14. By sandiamond on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Zulgads_Roundup_Coach_not_surprised_by_Adrian_Petersons_progress081312

    A. Williams defends or explains Mistral’s play from last friday

  15. By Mike B. on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    @Dogdiesel3 Moving Webb at this time is a mistake. He is position to be the backup for Ponder. He has the ability to throw the ball down field and the ability to run out of trouble. He lacks the experience to be able to check down all his receivers before using his feet. If he can learn to check down all the receivers, he may end up being a #1 QB for us or another team. Bethel-Thompson’s fate lies more with keeping Sage or not. BTW I also feel that Ponder has proven himself to be the startng QB and that Webb is a good #2.

  16. By Mike B. on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    It is possible that moving Griffen back opens a spot for a Linebaccker to be added to the roster. I question if Brinkle has enough experience to lead the defense. It is possible we are negotiating with EJ Henderson. That would make more sense of this move.

  17. By sunnyazvike on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    Did the Packers sign EJ?

  18. By Mike B. on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    EJ is still showing unsigned on the NFL Free Agent tracker.

  19. By sandiamond on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    Heck No, maybe Oakland has some interest right now but EJ is the best run-stopper on the market

  20. By Deer Tracks* on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    sunnyazvike! Where in the Blue Blazes did I say I wanted Ponder to fail?

    Fist off, sunny, learn how to read what is printed, NOT what you ThINK is!

    In the event Ponder gets smashed, Webb is ready to steo in! READ!

  21. By Blasphemerr on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    Everson Griffen NASCAR package. Get it done.

  22. By Troutdaddy on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    Griffen is in a hard spot now. I don’t see him making a huge difference. As far as Webb goes Deer Tracks, Ponder is not going to give him a chance to back him up and if Webb’s play last week was any indication, he is not ready yet. Don’t get me wrong- I like Webb, but just not at the QB position. He just seems to play to tentatively. He is always looking tor the run. He runs well mind you, but he needs to be lazer-focussed as a passer and he lacks that focus that Ponder has. Just my perception. Give him some time and he may just be that person, but right now he is not. I am willing to give him time though- so you see I am not going to throw him under the bus. The kid has talent and we all need to let him grow- Just like we need to let Ponder roll as the QB without any reservations.

  23. By Deer Tracks* on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    Troutdaddy I guess I will have to edit before posting next time, huh.

    At least you didn’t poke me with a sharp stick Titus would.

    I guess (again)) we all will have to wait to see what unfolds.

  24. By Richard1A on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    Not first :) Yeah, get Solomon Elimimien in there, he just has to learn the play book. Thomson Bethel should a lot of potential from what we seen of him.

  25. By Spencer on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier is clueless.

  26. By shajda on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    MikeB…good analagy on the QBs. I’m not an expert but if frazier is smart he’ll keep Thompson over Rosendels, or Webb for that matter. Ponders arm strength is in question, he wasn’t able to lead Burton enough on the catch friday and that was his first throw. Webb has been at it for two years now and he did not look on friday. Thompson is hungary and he will make it somewhere. It would be so much fun watching him throw the ball as a viking. Rosenfels will always be a backup. I’ve watched Ponder turn his back and walk away when Rosenfels was talking to him. I don’t know if that is relevent or not but it is surprising.

  27. By TampaNorseman on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    Since we are wasting Griffens’ talent by standing on the sidelines 50 to 60 percent of the time why not dangle his size, speed and LB potential to a Team that runs a 3 – 4 Defense….say Pittsburgh. Griffen and a 3rd round draft pick for holdout WR Mike Wallace? Wallace would be on the field 100 percent of the time for us and ex-Viking Coach Tomlinson could use Griffen to his potential…God knows the Vikings won’t.

  28. By Lucas on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    Webb is horrible. Always will be. When the coach says “Well, at this stage in his career you can’t expect him to be very accurate during practice. PRACTICE. You’re all on crack.

  29. By Frederick Jones on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe someone already noticed this: The Packers did not sign Ryan Grant, and they do not currently have enough healthy RBs. Perhaps this was a costly over sight by Mike McCarthy.

    They have a GREAT offensive line, but you still have to have someone of decent caliber to carry the ball. The NFL is not an all-pass league yet.

  30. By Frederick Jones on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    Everson Griffen is always being touted as a great player. He’s had more Vikings.com blogs dedicated to him than any other player not named Harvin, Peterson, Greenway, or Allen.

    Everson Griffen should be starting, or SHUT UP!!!

  31. By Frederick Jones on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    Lucas and Spencer,

    Be a just a little more patient. Titus and I warned you about jumping the gun on the current Viking team. Be very, very, very careful what you say.

    8-8, just have faith.

  32. By Frederick Jones on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    Unlike Ponder, Webb did not play with the first string line. That matters to a quarterback. You can’t be Tom Brady without having all day to throw the football.

  33. By Frederick Jones on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    YOU can be a great NFL coach but get fired over lack of acquired talent. Management has to work for you to help find the talent, although guys like Dennis Green were able to find their own talent. Green was underated, he was one of the best coaches in NFL history…or my middle initial isn’t L.

    Actually it was Brian Billick who suggested this on THE FAN.

  34. By texasranters on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    Now if they’d switch Joe Webb to WR because he’s cluelesss as a QB

  35. By sunnyazvike on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    Deer tracks! I did “read” what you wrote, qoute “sooner or later webb will be on the field winning games.” Now tell me what that implies?? So its about
    Ponder getting injured now? whatever its plain to see what you meant, you just have to “read” your first post. Mo ron!

  36. By Gabriel on Aug 14, 2012 | Reply

    I think this is great news dont know why people are dissapointed. Last year he wasnt that good when he dropped into coverage and its not like learning to be a lb is that easy. On the other hand he is a beast at DE and will play a lot in most of the nickel and dime packages and should be rotating constantly with robinson

  37. By mnsoldier on Aug 15, 2012 | Reply

    The only reason the keep webb at QB is that he can run, that is great, however he has shown no progression in his ability to throw, what has he done in the off season to get better, why is he still so sloppy, he has flashes of ability, yet flashes do not start a fire, they only make you a target. He needs to develope himself and not wait for the coaches to make him better. If he cant get better by the end of preseason, I would either convert him to WR, trade him or cut him as the Thompson kid has the strongest arm in the camp and we would be just dumb to let him go to a team that will find a gem in the rough.

  38. By caliviking88 on Aug 15, 2012 | Reply

    joe webb seems kinda slow and i dont mean on his feet….ponder will end up bein better cuz hes a much smarter person….i hope………………erin henderson is disappointing me and everybody back up off jasper hes gunna get the job done

  39. By pigskin on Aug 15, 2012 | Reply

    The under estimation of Everson’s intelligence reveals lack of same.
    His blog attention is deserved. He has talent and personality.

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