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Everson Griffen Moving To Linebacker?

Posted by Mike Wobschall on June 26, 2012 – 6:28 am

Sometimes NFL teams have too many open positions on the field and not enough worthy players to fill them. That’s a bad problem. Other times teams have too many players worthy of being on the field and not enough open positions. That’s a better problem to have.

When it comes to Everson Griffen, the Vikings have a good problem to solve. As a defensive end sitting behind All-Pro Jared Allen and six-year veteran Brian Robison, Griffen provides depth along the defensive line. But the Vikings have figured out that Griffen’s skill set and versatility make him too valuable a player to be on the sidelines more than he’s on the field.

“Everson has worked extremely hard this offseason,” Vikings GM Rick Spielman said. “The thing he gives you is versatility on defense, and how the coaches will figure out to put in different type of packages. He can stand up in the linebacker position, they can blitz him, he’s athletic enough to drop off in coverage, he can speed rush off the right side, he can come off the left side, and we even use him inside some as an inside nickel rusher when we try to get all of our pass rushers. One of the things you really try to hone in on are those guys that have unique athletic traits that can do multiple things for you.”

So what to do? Last summer the Vikings began experimenting with the idea of playing Griffen at LB occasionally, an idea that makes sense given Griffen’s athleticism and the presence of two established starters at his more natural position. And now, as FoxSportsNorth’s Brian Hall noted late last week, the Vikings are once again considering Griffen at LB.

“Yeah, that’s one of the things we’re talking about as a staff, being able to get him a few more reps at linebacker when we get to Mankato because, as you know from last season, we used him in that situation where he was a linebacker in some of our third down defense,” Frazier explained. “We’d like to be able to escalate that a little bit and maybe even in the early downs, get him on the field. We feel like we have two outstanding defensive ends in Jared (Allen) and then Brian (Robison) but with Everson, he’s an excellent athlete. You want to be able to get him more than ten or fifteen snaps a game and this is a way to possibly do that, so we’ll explore and see how he comes along in Mankato.”

Adding credence to the idea of moving Griffen to LB, even if it’s on a part-time basis, is that the Vikings are still unsure of what they have for depth at that position. Chad Greenway and Erin Henderson are established starters at outside LB, and the Vikings are hopeful Jasper Brinkley can evolve into a solid starter in the middle. After that there are players on the roster who could provide depth, such as 7th-round draft pick Audie Cole, Larry Dean, Solomon Elimimian and Marvin Mitchell, but Griffen could be one to compete with those individuals for playing time.

For his part, Griffen just wants to be on the field in whatever capacity the coaches ask so that he can help the team win. Now entering his 3rd season in the NFL, Griffen is used to lining up all over the field, something he can do because of his athleticism. He even plays gunner on the punt team, after all, which is a remarkable accomplishment for a player listed as a DE.

“I’m comfortable,” Griffen said. “With my athletic ability, I feel like I can come and pretty much do anything. That’s not me being cocky. I just feel like I can just come in and adapt to the situation.”

Fans love the idea of moving Griffen to LB because A) it’s a way to get a good player on the field more often and B) it’s a creative way to solve a problem and fans appreciate when their team uses an outside-the-box idea to try and improve.

But is Griffen better-suited to remain in his role as a reserve DE?

“Yeah, we think he can do that, but based on what we see in Mankato, that’s going to determine [if he plays LB],” Frazier said. “We want to give him a chance to see if he can help us at that linebacker spot where we’re still working with our depth, we’re still trying to identify what our depth is going to be at that position.”


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115 Responses to “Everson Griffen Moving To Linebacker?”

  1. By thenaj17 on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    So it took a whole year and half in charge to realise this? We should have done this a lot more last year when we had nothing to lose in the second half of the season. Players like Love, Fusco, Burton and Webb (not at QB) should have been used a lot more!

  2. By DeerTracks on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    thenaj17

    Where do you think Webb should have been used. WR, RB?

    Just asking, He woud have been good at either.

    However, he is still a very good QB.

  3. By RI VIKE on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    This is such a great idea and I’ve been hoping for this after watching Griffin on Special Teams last season, the dude was on an absolute tear every time coming down the field. The DE positions are filled which is fine by me, although I wouldn’t be surprised to see Griffin compete for Left End in the coming years, but seriously he is so quick and powerful I can’t wait to see him in LB packages. I know for certain he’ll be a run stopping beast, but I think his speed can help him in the cover game and disrupting screens. Go E. Griffin!

  4. By Jake on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Put him at linebacker. Probably better then Brinkley. Not to mention the fact that he is probably bigger too and probably has close to the same speed. I would love to see him crunching running backs from the MLB.

  5. By Footballknowitall on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    I am so excited for this new season. Oh, yes, Everson at linebacker. Brilliant.

  6. By RichardA1 on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Probably just B.S. to give viewers, reporters something to chew on! how about as a T.E. can he catch? obviously good talent but not good enough for anywhere except special teams. Why not put Webb & Griffin up for trade? they had a year to have him work on LB skills, did they do that, no, is Webb talented, yes the most on the team, is there a use on the team for him? no. I hope this is’nt bad coaching, they don’t realize they have players on the team that they have no place for. It seems more and more that the coachs don’t know what they are doing, they have a handful of players that do nothing, there just on the team, we can’t afford to waste a roster spot for players who do nothing!

  7. By RichardA1 on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Why not fullback?

  8. By Footballknowitall on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    How about at WR or QB? Great thoughts Richard. Priceless!

  9. By hadtomakeanametoleaveacomment on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Whats the deal Wob’s we need some daily updates. This reading the Monday Morning Mailbag over and over until wednessday stinks. Most site do an update every morning around the same time. Cut back on all the audio interviews and give us some news stories. If nothing is going on in Vikings camp give us some around the league news!

  10. By Spencer on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Last season he played a lot of DT.

  11. By Jeffbleedspurple on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Man you guys need to quit crying about Webb, he is a backup QB now, Vikings have made that perfectly clear and until he beats out Ponder that’s where he will stay.
    As far as the topic goes, that would be a really good move, that would be one big LB and he can motor for his size. We do need the help in the LB’s corp.

  12. By Frederick Jones on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Griffin is so unique as a “gunner” on special teams? Start the man an Linebacker!
    Let Erin Henderson or Jasper Brinkley be the backup.

  13. By Frederick Jones on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Joe is a QUARTERBACK. That is where you want the best athlete on the team!!!

  14. By Frederick Jones on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    It’s spelled Everson Griffen. (Not Griffin)

  15. By RichardA1 on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    I’m just saying, Griffin, Webb, great talent but not great enough to start in the NFL, is it the coaching? they are expendable, no use for them, except special teams. Remember W. Perry, the “Refrigerator”, they through him in in the Superbowl as fullback, not a chance of him being stopped.

  16. By Footballknowitall on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Stop Jonesen’ everyone. This is a brilliant move– this kid is ferocious– remember the Chicago game at the dome last year?

  17. By Footballknowitall on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Where is Parody? Out in the garden tending weed?

  18. By Rogerthevikefan on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Griffen played DE, DT, ST, and some LB last year. He was good at all of it. Given his talent level if he is given time to learn any position he will be a stud.

  19. By secgenfan on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Put griffen in on 3rd down and long and line him up next to Allen and nobody is stopping both of them coming off the edge. Go vikes!!!!!

  20. By RI VIKE on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Fred is on the money, the guy is ferocious. I remember several games last season where the announcers were baffled as to how the DE “gunner” was beating out blockers down the field to make a play on the return. I have a feeling that E. Griffen would be a force at LB. Put him in coach!

    I also agree that you should give E. Griffen the nod over Brinkley. Let Brinkley prove himself on Special teams first.

  21. By Footballknowitall on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Footballknowitall is on the money, you mean, RI Vike.

  22. By Footballknowitall on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    How is RI? I was in Newport once– loved it.

  23. By DRS on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Fast, but can Vikings’ Taylor learn fast enough?

    Article by: CRAIG MALVEAUX , Star Tribune Updated: June 26, 2012 – 7:24 AM

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/160323375.html

  24. By RI VIKE on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Ha, indeed Footballknowitall is on the money! Sorry for not giving props where props were due! I seriously have high hopes for Griffen at LB though, he’s got the ability lets just hope he likes the scheme.

    Also can’t help but have high hopes for the season. We lost a lot of close ones last year. If you go back and look at the point differential per game and improve our defense by 1-less TD a game, or improve our offense by 1-more TD a game we win 10 or 11 games last year. I don’t think that kind of improvement is far off it at all.

    Also, Ponder did really well in the Red Zone last year (highest passer rating among all QB’s 2011-2012) and you know AD can get you in the Red Zone.

    Skol Vikes!

  25. By RI VIKE on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    I’m loving New England so far, but RI is OK. Definitely missing the Midwest and “Minnesota Nice” is nowhere to be found out here!

  26. By Footballknowitall on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Nice post RI Vike!!! That is what we need around here– more realistic optimism. Not this Midwest pessimism.

  27. By Footballknowitall on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    RI– you know what I always say to people? Out East people are more honest and straightforward– to me, that is truly better than a fake smile and turn around to stab you in the back– Minnesota nice is really Minnesota ice. I love the east coast.

  28. By DRS on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings Stadium team CEO announcement today

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47923900

  29. By DRS on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Leaders hope new Vikings stadium will be boon to jobless

    http://www.leadertelegram.com/news/daily_updates/article_f0b778f4-b4ac-11e1-839c-0019bb2963f4.html

  30. By celticvikingwarrior on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    I just don’t get it, I think the coaching staff is going overboard and bending over backward’s to reward DECENT play, good hard work, loyalty, etc.
    I’m talking about Brian Robison who is an excellent teamate, does everything right but is only an ADEQUETE DE, he is NOT GREAT and never will be!!!
    LEAVE GRIFFEN AT HIS NATURAL POSITION, DE AND HE COULD DEVELOPE INTO A, WELL IF NOT GREAT, AT LEAST EXCELLENT, AND BETTER THAN ROBISON AT DE.
    A career best 8 sacks doesn’t blow me away !!!!!

  31. By jman on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Fred–you are telling me that Brady is a better athlethe then Welker or Gronk…..I think what you mean to say is that you wan the smartest player at QB and the most athletic at either MLB or WR. Choose your words correctly….Smartest player, Webb is not…..

  32. By RichardA1 on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    I like the of Griffen and Solomon Elimimien in the linebacker position, two ferious animals.

  33. By DRS on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings Stadium Gets Through Minneapolis Council Vote
    by: dan.burns
    Fri May 25, 2012 at 11:11:26 AM CDT

    one potentially problematic piece of the $975 million plan has received scant coverage: The funding scheme to pay for the stadium is contingent on approval from the Minnesota Supreme Court. If the court determines that issuing what are known as appropriation bonds is not constitutional, the funding mechanism for the state’s $348 million share of the project disappears

    http://www.mnprogressiveproject.com/diary/11555/vikings-stadium-gets-through-minneapolis-council-vote

  34. By DRS on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    I know that was old news, Mike W. I was wondering if there has been any new news on what the courts are doing about this issue.

  35. By DRS on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Have to go for now, everyone have a great day.

  36. By Spencer on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    By celticvikingwarrior on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply
    I just don’t get it, I think the coaching staff is going overboard and bending over backward’s to reward DECENT play, good hard work, loyalty, etc.
    I’m talking about Brian Robison who is an excellent teamate, does everything right but is only an ADEQUETE DE, he is NOT GREAT and never will be!!!
    LEAVE GRIFFEN AT HIS NATURAL POSITION, DE AND HE COULD DEVELOPE INTO A, WELL IF NOT GREAT, AT LEAST EXCELLENT, AND BETTER THAN ROBISON AT DE. A career best 8 sacks doesn’t blow me away !!!!!
    ——————————————————————————————

  37. By Matt on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    all of you people, stop with this Joe Webb talk, he is athletic, that is it. He has the same arm strength as Ponder, he has zero pocket awareness and he can barely throw a tight spiral with accuracy. I feel like you just watched his game against the Eagles his rookie season and thought he was a god, forgetting the fact that the Eagle’s defense that year was terrible.

  38. By hadtomakeanametoleaveacomment on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    He would be a good trade bait contender, or even possibly provide depth at another position but for now I think everyone should be happy with having a back up that could possibly win a game for us if our franchise qb goes down(not saying ponder is a great franchise QB but the organization did draft him in the top 15 so we have to see what he can do)

  39. By sunnyazvike on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    I’m happy they are giving him a chance to learn more at the LB position, but he needs to improve a great deal to make it worth while. Griffen was out of place last year in coverage. He Has the ability but needs help

  40. By parodymmxii on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    sunnyazvike – All the LBs were out of place last year in pass coverage. That’s been a huge weakness for our defense. Too many times, you’d see short throws explode for big gains because the guy responsible for covering him was nowhere to be seen. This was especially irksome on 3rd and forever downs, which seemed to be converted on us much more often than they weren’t.

  41. By Gideon on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    You guys are pretty uninformed as a whole. It’s clear the majority of you don’t know much about how football works and don’t follow any outside reports on the team you claim to like so much.

    JOE WEBB CANNOT CATCH THE FOOTBALL. Don’t you think the Vikings would like to have him on the field. JOE WEBB ALSO HAS TROUBLE WITH THE ENTIRE PLAYBOOK AND MAKING DECISIONS IN GAME, UNDER PRESSURE WHEN THEY MATTER.

    While Everson Griffen is very talented, he probably doesn’t have the smarts to play linebacker more than a few snaps a game with basic assignments.

    Do your homework before making authoritative statements.

  42. By sunnyazvike on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    I agree, I was never confident on 3rd and long with our defense out there. The Vikings are talking about using Griffen on third down packages, and if he is always rushing the QB he might as well put his hand on the ground. He doesnt stay in coverage with the rb/wo. He is nowhere near where he needs to be. Our LB’s that we have now are much better in coverage, and that’s saying something

  43. By DeerTracks on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Gideon

    Wonder where you got the info on Joe Webb being unable to read the playbook

    He has to have someone throw the ball to him first, before he can catch it.

    Joe has made decisions under pressure in the past of the games I watched.

    I am wondering if Frazier has you setting next to him when viewing game film?
    ..

  44. By Heath on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Theres an article out there right now that talks about this. pretty good. heres the link.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1233219-minnesota-vikings-2012-15-key-role-players

  45. By Spencer on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    By Gideon on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply
    JOE WEBB ALSO HAS TROUBLE WITH THE ENTIRE PLAYBOOK AND MAKING DECISIONS IN GAME, UNDER PRESSURE WHEN THEY MATTER.
    ——————————————————————————————-

    I think you’re talking about Ponder.
    Against the Packers he had a chance to make a game winning drive- but couldnt even take the ball to the 50.

    Against the Broncos he had a chance to make a game winning drive- but threw an int on the very first posession.

    Now with Webb.
    Against the Lions he had a chance to make a game winning drive- got to the 2yrd line, but the refs didnt call the obvious facemask. He was clutch.

    Against the Redskins game was tied up at 23 in the 4th- he converted a crucial 3rd and 10 and marched the team down for the winning TD. That was clutch.

    Unlike Ponder, Webb actually delivers when the team needs him most.

  46. By Frederick Jones on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer,

    Thank you for that last comment about Joe “Clutch” Webb.

  47. By DeerTracks on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Heath

    Thanks for puting up the article….I am beginning to believe that we are almost there with the 2012 Vikings! If all of them, or most anyway, are kept on the team, this will be a whizz-bang year!

    I liked the readout on Webb, But didn’t tell me anything I didn’t already know!

  48. By Frederick Jones on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    @DeerTracks,

    You are right about Gideon’s comments. Where does he get his inside information?

  49. By Frederick Jones on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    @jman,

    I never said one word about gronk or welker. Why are you reading between the lines and inventing things I never said?

    How do you KNOW Joe Webb isn’t smarter than any other player in the league? What do you base this knowledge on? I prefer to consider Spencer’s quote: JOE WEBB IS CLUTCH!!!

  50. By carlk300 on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    gideon-
    Are you lost? Do you have a s.c.r.e.w. loose? Why would you be looking for “authoritative statements” from fans? You can’t even get that from the professional analysts!

    I know the answer, because you are Titus just playing games!

    very funny Titus, but you can’t fool me.

  51. By Frederick Jones on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Even Dan Patrick admits that the media is just a hoax. It is not all about the quarterback!!!

  52. By Spencer on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Fred- I believe you diminish the quarterback position and glorify the o-line because you coached linemen….

  53. By DeerTracks on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    carlk300

    I had footballknowitall on my radar as either Nova or Titus, but after reading your post, I come up with Titus could be both Gideon and footballknowsitall.

    This little ploy has been used before…..In the past I had bit of fun..Gave it up..

  54. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry to disappoint Carl, but that was not me– I am not a fan of all caps– maybe a word for emphasis, but rarely a whole sentence– I employ syntax and word choice to make a statement loud and clear. There are a couple other clues that it is not me, but anyway, why do I need to prove anything? I am outta here!

  55. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    It is quite funny, cause Carl, you were fooled. When Titus appears, the trumpets sound and the flags wave. How doth thou mistake a foot soldier for an Emperor?

  56. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Anyway, in all seriousness, I like Griffen as linebacker– he is a force. Maybe we will win 10 games this year if the coaches think outside the box and use the players at their strengths. I like it.

  57. By mnsoldier on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    webb needs to learn the WR routes, he is only a back up, why would he fuss since he is getting paid big money to sit on the benck, i wouldnt put a stink in order to keep the checks rolling in.

  58. By Spencer on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Webb cant catch a football, its just that simple. Hes not a WR..

  59. By Spencer on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Why not just put Aromoshadu at Corner? Hes 6’3- he would be a perfect CB..

    Just teach him zone coverage and he would be all set, right?

  60. By Viking-ology on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer-hey could you try and find out why I can’t post on Vikingsfootballblog. Thanx

  61. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    How much do they pay Webb?

  62. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, are you playing Warcraft again?

  63. By carlk300 on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    How could I mistake a foot soldier for an Emperor?

    Good One. That’s Rich. Very Funny.

    Please forgive me Sir Titus, but anyone boosting a pompous attitude, I shall mistake for thee.

  64. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Carl, I am actually quite humble. Great, but humble.

  65. By T.allen.govikes on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    why is everyone predicting we’ll be under six wins? Our schedule’s soft and we should have beat chicago last game of year.

  66. By RichardA1 on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Webb can’t catch? some of these players can’t play other positions? HuH? take away there million dollar pay checks and see have fast they learn.

  67. By parodymmxii on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Way to go Titus, your “outta here…Forever” lasted two whole days!

  68. By Woodboat on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Wow.

    Webb will never be a big part of the offense unless Ponder gets hurt, he beats out Ponder for the starting job(unlikely), or they get a new #2 QB. You can cry all you want about him sitting on the sidelines, but thems the facts.

    Robison is just fine at DE. He beats the RG at an acceptable rate. If our new DC gets more creative and agressive than Pagac/Frazier, I believe you’ll see his numbers improve. We need our DTs to contribute this year… honestly, they weren’t much last season.

    Offenses and defenses need to be strong up the middle. Offense needs a strong QB, RB, C to be good. Def need strong strong play from the DTs, MLB, S positions. I’ve heard this from more than one analyst, and it makes sense. Our DTs, MLB, and S play last year was horrible (as was much of our CB play). Can’t win games like that.

    I hope Griffen beats out Brinkley for the starting job. That would mean we’d have a darned good MLB out there, because Brinkley isn’t a slouch. With some improved DT play, we should be just fine.

  69. By Woodboat on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer –

    The reason Aromashodu won’t be trained for the zone is that…

    our coaching staff hasn’t been able to train actual CORNERBACKS to play it properly. Our Tampa 2 defense is garbage, and that’s being polite.

  70. By Woodboat on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    parodymmxii –

    Titus had a witty comeback for you, but he has already used up his alotted number of posts for the day. Stay tuned… he’ll be back next week to retort.

  71. By Woodboat on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    The Vikes have the least hope of making the playoffs of any team in the league is why everyone is predicting 6 wins or less. The NFC north has GOT to have the toughest top 3 teams in the league. Our coaching staff hasn’t shown any proof that they deserve the title of “coaching staff”. Frazier was an asst. to the DC for a team known for its offense. How many OC positions has our OC been summarily fired from for being incompetent?

    That being said, I am hoping for a good run and going 8-8. Sure, we’ll miss the playoffs, but it’ll show that the team is headed in the right direction. None of you REALLY believe this is a playoff team, right? I mean, this isn’t one of the top 6 teams in the NFC…

  72. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Well, Parody, you mocked my predictive powers, and being you are the king of Parody, I could not let you down. Here I am!

  73. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    What is a Woodboat?

  74. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Titus has no restrictions– he can post whenever and wherever he pleases. He is Emperor for crying out loud!

  75. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Vikes have a 60% chance of making the playoffs.. There is no way, none, zilch, nada, that they do not win a minimum of 8, and most likely 10 games.

  76. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    Mark my words and call my secretary in November to donate.

  77. By Frederick Jones on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    @Titus and Carl 300,

    Jones is the originator of thees, thous, thys, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

    Why is it that thou doth not understandeth?

  78. By Frederick Jones on Jun 26, 2012 | Reply

    @Woodboat,

    Why should the Vikings pay millions for a backup QB?

    Joe Webb will be a legend, if he gets the opportunity!!!

  79. By Spencer on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    Ponders the better quarterback, Webb gives us the best chance to win.

    But for now Ponder is the starting quarterback of this team- so lets rally around him.

  80. By sunnyazvike on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is a much better QB than Webb. Joe Webb does have hands, he would be useful as a wideout. The gut feeling was to use him as a 3rd qb while having him work as a wideout. Overthinking caused this not to happen which leaves Joe Webbs future at a standstill.

  81. By OTKalil2012 on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    Is it over Percy ???..

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/160468935.html

  82. By carlk300 on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    Sunnyazvike- Ponder should be a better QB then Webb.. Has Ponder proven he is a 1st round franchise QB? Not yet. Can he? Yes.

    Many QBs should be better than Webb but are not. Lets look at some of the QBs drafted ahead of Webb in 2010.
    Jimmy Clausen- 3 TDs -9 INTs, cmp% 52.5 QB rate 58.4
    Colt McCoy- 20 TDs to 20 INTs. cmp% 58.4 QB rate 74.5
    Mike Kafka -0 TDs to 2 INTs QB rate 47.7
    Jonathan Compton and Dan Lefevour have no regular season stats and have struggled to make NFL rosters.

    Joe Webb – 4 rushing TDs on 40 attempts with an ave of 6.9 yards per pop.. 1 Kick off return for 30 yards. 1 reception. As a QB- 3TDS to 5 ints. cmp% 57.9 and a QB rate of 66.6

  83. By carlk300 on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    Percy has rushed the ball 85 times and has scored 3 TDs on those attempts. Percy scores every 28.3 times he runs with the ball.

    AP has 1406 career rushing attempts and has scored 64 TDs. AP scores every 21.9 times he runs.

    JOE WEBB SCORES EVER 10th TIME HE TAKES OFF WITH THE ROCK!
    Webb is the most dynamic playmaker on our team. His TDs per attempts as a runner and as a p.a.s.s.e.r is OFF THE CHARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  84. By DeerTracks on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    carlk300

    Thank you for the informative and revealing information.

  85. By Frederick Jones on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    @sunnyaz,

    No, it’s overthinking to put a QB at Wide Receiver!!!

    Joe Webb has always been a Quarterback, except for some overthinking at UAB!

  86. By Frederick Jones on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    @Carl 300,

    Great graphic on Joe Webb. There are those who need to re-think their position on Joe Webb. One person actually had JOE traded in order to keep a player who has never played an NFL down in his career!

  87. By Frederick Jones on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    @Wobschall,

    Although I can post right now, I suggest that some cannot.

    We need to get to the root of the problem, and change it.

    It might be necessary to start a new blog, if this one is infected!!!

  88. By Frederick Jones on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    @WOBSCHALL,

    I DID HAVE A POST THAT WOULD NOT GO THROUGH YESTERDAY. NO APPARENT SWEAR WORDS OR COMINATIONS THAT COULD BE MISCOMMUNICATED.

  89. By Frederick Jones on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    Combinations*

  90. By Frederick Jones on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    The Quarterback job is Ponder’s to lose. But let Joe have a chance at it!!!

  91. By Jeffbleedspurple on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    Biggest mistake the Vikings made was when they drafted Webb they should have stuck with their intentions, because Webb was drafted with thoughts other than QB and thats the plan they should have stuck with.

  92. By DeerTracks on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    Jeffbleedspurple

    I am happy as a Lark, that Webb wasn’t made into a WR!!

  93. By Vikingsfool on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    Webb or Ponder? It is kinda funny that the arguments, both for and against either QB, are the same. Neither are proven as franchise QB’s, both have had a chance to show what they can do. Both have looked great at times, while looking horrible at others. This argument is more of an “I’m right and you are wrong”, sort of argument. I really wish both sides would can it.

  94. By Vikingsfool on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    Joe Webb has had a chance at it. but obviously did not show enough promise to keep the Vikings brass from drafting a QB. And all you Ponder haters should really lighten up, because if you are right, and Ponder cannot develop past a college QB, then Webb will get another chance.

  95. By Vikingsfool on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    I say let the season play out and let the cards fall where they may. Then we will know if we have a QB.

  96. By carlk300 on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    Give Webb another shot. He has earned that much.
    If you look at his preseason and reg season career stats… he accounts for a touch down every 22.6 plays when running or throwing. That is right up with Mike Vick (22.6) and Cam Newton (18.3).

  97. By DeerTracks on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    We will most likely see soon enough………

  98. By KoN on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    That’s a very situational statistic, Carl. I could point out that Ponder had 7.8 yards per carry compared to Webb’s 7.0. Does that mean that Ponder is more athletic than Webb? No, I don’t think anyone would argue that Webb is one of the most athletic players on the team.

  99. By carlk300 on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    I am not knocking Ponder!!! Ponder has great TD playmaking stats also!!!

    Last season Ponder accounted for a TD every 24.5 times he attempted a run or throw. Outstanding.

    That is without a great Oline or a true #1 WR. I like Ponder’s athletic skill set too.

    You are correct KoN… very situational. I am just looking at things out side the box when it comes to the Webb bashers.

    I like both of the Vikings young QBs… I enjoy watching both make plays.

  100. By DeerTracks on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    KON

    How true.

    Ed
    Royal Rippoff Casiino, SD

  101. By DeerTracks on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    carlk300

    Again, I most certainly agree.

    Ed
    Birds Nest WY

  102. By DeerTracks on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    carlk300

    I also enjoy both Ponder and Webb doing their thing!

    I would like to see Frazier think up som plays so that wqe could see both of them playing in the same game!

    Ed
    Rotten Stump, ND

  103. By DeerTracks on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    oops

    Ed
    Weak Booze, TN

  104. By goldeneagle on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    Watch when Solomon gets on the field. He WILL be a terror. He is dangerous because he has something to prove. He will be motivated.

  105. By RichardA1 on Jun 27, 2012 | Reply

    I agree about Solomon, I’m his number one fan and he has’nt done anything yet, or proven himself!

  106. By celticvikingwarrior on Jun 28, 2012 | Reply

    goldeneagle–that is what the “GOPHERS” team name should be !!!!
    They will not in our lifetime be able to recruit top players with a STUPID NAME like GOPHERS, and I remember their LAST CHAMPIONSHIP–1960

    woodboat–I’ve waited a LOOONG time before responding to an earlier post by you in response to the Griffen at DE question…..I couldn’t believe what I was reading……Brian Robison is “JUST FINE” at DE, are you kidding me ?
    We all, from the owner’s, front office people, coaches, even the cheerleader’s.
    We as fan’s not only have the right to EXPECT but DEMAND that each and every player on the team be better than “JUST FINE” at their respective postion’s.
    Or “GOOD” as you described our center. That is barely half a step above” O.K”
    If you’re satisfied at being “JUST FINE” at something, go clean toilet’s for a living. At least have the self respect to do it better than “JUST FINE”…..

  107. By celticvikingwarrior on Jun 28, 2012 | Reply

    ….AND Spencer, thank you very much, appreciate the thought AND effort !!!!!

  108. By Blind Retrieve on Jun 28, 2012 | Reply

    Vikes need to lock up Joe Webb long term. He is the ultimate back up QB. When you game plan for a pocket passer you gotta like someone like Joe coming in if there is injury, the defense can throw there game plan out the window at that point. Say what you want but he is great in relief apperances. even if Ponder isn’t the long term guy, I think Joe would be a great backup and at a good price. He is only gonna get better the longer he is in the league, might as well be in that purp.

  109. By ODIm on Jul 4, 2012 | Reply

    Whoever thinks we should trade good backups has a very short term memory. With freak atheletes like Megatron beating us, thought should be given to training our own freak athelete Joe Webb for one-on-one coverage. Could he not run and jump with Megatron? (whilst no one else can.) Griffen is going to do great things, whether he is up to all the backing tasks and decisions is tbd. I heard there was going to be more line rotation this year, either way I think his number will be called often.

  110. By Jon on Jul 8, 2012 | Reply

    Webb is a better quarterback than ponder. Half way through the season the fans are going to be crying for the switch at qb as much as they were calling out for Childress to be fired.

  111. By Spencer on Jul 14, 2012 | Reply

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  112. By Spencer on Jul 14, 2012 | Reply

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  113. By Spencer on Jul 14, 2012 | Reply

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  114. By Spencer on Jul 14, 2012 | Reply

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  115. By Spencer on Jul 14, 2012 | Reply

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