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Great Debate! Stadium Legislation Advances Through Senate

Posted by Mike Wobschall on May 8, 2012 – 10:43 pm

For the second consecutive night, a huge step was taken at the State Capitol toward reaching resolution on the long-standing stadium issue.

Stadium legislation passed the Minnesota Senate by a 38-28 margin late Tuesday evening. Passage in the Senate on Tuesday followed passage in the House of Representatives on Monday evening by a 73-58 margin.

Tuesday night’s result sets the stage for the conference committee portion of the process. Several amendments were attached to both the House and Senate bills, and the conference committees will reconcile the bills.


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339 Responses to “Great Debate! Stadium Legislation Advances Through Senate”

  1. By Original Shawn on May 8, 2012 | Reply

    first

  2. By BUSbrandon on May 8, 2012 | Reply

    SKOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! another obstacle passed now on to the conference committee

  3. By Original Shawn on May 8, 2012 | Reply

    I happened to catch someone mention a “delete all” option for the amendments I think ???

    anyway thats how i took the comment and thought it was funny as funny

  4. By Justin on May 8, 2012 | Reply

    YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 10 years in the making. Here is a screen grab of the final 38-18 votes so you can see who voted where http://wp.me/p1zWAl-1az

  5. By Kyle N. on May 8, 2012 | Reply

    A little bit closer! It feels within reach now!

  6. By Nienaber99 on May 8, 2012 | Reply

    Thank God!!! Now we can get away from all the political BS that was trying to destroy this bill, it can go to conference committee and get the real deal done. SKOL VIKINGS

  7. By KoN on May 8, 2012 | Reply

    All of the conference committee members voted yes in their respective legislative houses.

  8. By Titus on May 8, 2012 | Reply

    Eighth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  9. By Tru Speed on May 8, 2012 | Reply

    YES!!!!!!!!!!! LETS GET THIS DONE!!!!!!!!!

  10. By Titus on May 8, 2012 | Reply

    Why is the time on these blogs in Mountain Time?

  11. By Titus on May 8, 2012 | Reply

    Wobbles is on top of things tonight. Way to go partner!

  12. By Titus on May 8, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn, why are you now Original Shawn?

  13. By KoN on May 8, 2012 | Reply

    Because, before him, there were no other Shawns.

  14. By OTKalil2012 on May 8, 2012 | Reply

    Wow…There are some politicians going through h3ll to get this bill to conference committee…And some politicians doing all they can to stop this stadium bill from going through…

    Do all you can Zygi to get this done…Vikings finally have this stadium bill in a position to get this thing done !!!…

    Take advantage of this opportunity Zygi…

    I know you can get this done !!!…

    Remember…The Vikings are winners !!!

    And so is their owner !!!

  15. By tammy mceachern on May 8, 2012 | Reply

    YESSSSSSS!!!

  16. By Saddy on May 8, 2012 | Reply

    I live in the yee haw land in Tennessee, my wife was like what are you watching this late, I said MN vikings bill in the senate, and she was like are you crazy, Yes I am a crazy vikings fan, SKOL

    Happy for you guys, hope all this is set and done and the stadium is built.

  17. By Todd Washington on May 8, 2012 | Reply

    Great…… I just think its going

  18. By OTKalil2012 on May 8, 2012 | Reply

    This is one time the Vikings owner is virtually carrying the ball for the Vikings team instead of AP !!

    The ball is in your court now Zygi…Its 4th down and 2 million a year to go…

    Score us a TD…Mr Wilf !!!…

    Get some sleep Zygi…Long day ahead tomorrow…

    For you and your Viking faithful…. ; )

  19. By DRS on May 8, 2012 | Reply

    I am very pleased with this vote and very hopeful at this time. We are at the five yard line with a first down, and the QB has dropped back for a p-a-s-s, the Vikings are down by 1 point with 10 seconds left, the GB Packers are on the Defense looking to stop the Vikings from a TD, who will win, we will see in the next few days. Have a great night, and God bless you all.

  20. By Petie97 on May 8, 2012 | Reply

    Im am soo pumped the stadium bill is picking up speed and Dayton really wants to get the bill passed so I think we are staying…but on other great news the Vikings Worked Rocky McIntosh today!!! He is a solid player.

  21. By Petie97 on May 8, 2012 | Reply

    *worked out

  22. By Petie97 on May 8, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828f5e7b/article/exredskins-lb-rocky-mcintosh-tries-out-with-vikings

  23. By Vikes4Life on May 8, 2012 | Reply

    Thank you Mike Wobschall for the timely updates. Skol Vikings! Every day is like torture waiting to hear the outcome on something so important to us. This is huge.

  24. By Original Shawn on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Titus … I got on yesterday or the day b4 and thought there was an imposter Shawn. Then after a few posts I realized another Shawn had popped up. Havent seen him today so maybe he just wanted to make a few comments about the House bill. IDK … I’ll go back when the coast is clear but for now I dont want my opinion to be confused because his was similar to mine

  25. By Rogerthevikefan on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Rocky McIntosh is a solid 4-3 LB he was mis-casted in the Skins 3-4 defense. Matt Singletary(Mike’s son) was at the rookie camp anyone know how he did?

  26. By Rogerthevikefan on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Two votes down two more to go.

  27. By DWang on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Any word on the user fees? It seemed like if it got tacked on it would’ve been a deal breaker for the Vikes (and rightfully so)

  28. By Sir Greasy Panda on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Alright Minnesota! lets get this stadium built.

  29. By Sir Greasy Panda on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I WANT TO START A MOVEMENT TO GET JARED ALLEN TO GROW BACK THE MULLET!!! I FEEL LIKE IF ENOUGH PEOPLE ASK HIM THAT HE WILL CAVE INTO THE FAN’S DEMAND.

    ANYONE WITH ME???

  30. By Sir Greasy Panda on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Jared Allen’s mullet would have gotten him that last sack to break the record. That Mullet gave the team swagger back in 09. He needs to bring it back!

  31. By Rogerthevikefan on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Future Minnesota Viking DE Ryan Grant(Bud Grant’s grandson)

  32. By Rogerthevikefan on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Mullet power is needed

  33. By Parody on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t understand why people are so optomistic right now. On the surface, it sounds great that the politicians are finally passing bills, but with the extra $105 Million tacked onto Zygi’s bill, does it really stand a chance?

    It sounds to me like they know that they’re trying to swindle the big bad owner of a sports franchise, and that there is almost zero percent chance that he’ll fall for their pathetic showing of support.

    Can anyone convince me that there’s a realistic chance that team ownership will pony up the extra cash…or maybe explain a realistic way that it would be covered by some third party?

  34. By jv3rnon on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Hey i’m from NC and I am die-hard purple people eaters fan. Is this the last process
    they have to go through or what? I seen it pass the House and Senate somebody let me know!!!

  35. By Sir Greasy Panda on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    MULLET!!!!!

  36. By cobrasvt on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Awesome! I contacted House Legislators from here, SC! Do what it takes. Maybe one day I can attend a game in Minn. for real!

  37. By PurplHaze on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I think the Wilfs and the Conf. Committee will find common ground.

    BUILD THE NEW VIKINGS STADIUM!!! =)

  38. By steve j winnie upstate N.Y Viking fan on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Wow! awesome keep up the good work and support for the stadium. I hope someday I can get there for a game. Lot of Viking fans from upstate New York we are all happy about keeping our beloved Vikes in Minnesota where they belong.If they move to L.A i could never watch another football game again.I WISH they could play outside again like the old days at the old met. Purple People Eaters all the way! Let’s keep it going

  39. By sacman on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Don’t get too excited. It may not be an acceptable bill to the Wilfs.

  40. By PurplHaze on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    BLA BLA BLA … GO OVER TO THE FUDGEPACKER’S BLOG WITH YOUR PESSIMISM!!!

  41. By Rocksalt on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Parody-
    I also am concerned, but hope all can find an accepatable middle ground.
    Right on Original Shawn!

  42. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    well the vote was a great step

  43. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    @Parody I think there will be negotiations between the two sides and maybe even divide that down the middle. They have yes vote and a stadium deal is almost there. Wilfs had to understand they were not going to get everything they wanted. The additional 105M is about half of the 200M they would have to pay to move the team and also since the Vikings Franchise name would be retired for a move I think you will see the Wilf accpet 50 to 75M additional contribution. This may not be a great deal, but they are going to build a state of the art facility. I think the senate version increases the Wilf contribution to 25M so it’s going to fall some where around 50M. This may sound like a lot of money but with a 1B bill it’s doable.

  44. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    This is definately not a time to be pessimistic about the Stadium Issue I am suprised that it passed both houses.

  45. By Kansas Viking on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I watched for about 4 hours of the House of Representatives sling amendment after amendment onto this bill. I didn’t get a chance to watch the Senate hearing. But I think we are still far from out of the woods. The demands that some of these congressmen (women) are making will really make it hard for the Vikings to agree to those terms. Then after negotiations, they are going to vote again? Some of these politicians openly stated that if their amendments did not get attached, that they would vote against the bill. So I think we will lose a few votes after the bill is reworked/reworded. I hope that this can become reality, but Im not comfortable yet.

  46. By Mark B on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Parody – while there was $105M tacked on in the House, the Senate version only increased the Vikings share by $25M. The two bills will be discussed and merged into one bill (that can no longer be amended thankfully). My only question is can all sides in this – the team, House, Senate, and Gov. Dayton – work together to get a bill that satisfies everyone. I think in the end it gets done and a stadium gets built, but we will know for sure in the next couple days – MN state law says that the legislative session has to end by day 120 and we are currently on day 119 iirc, leaving today and tomorrow to get this resolved and passed.

  47. By DRS on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Senate approves Vikings stadium with a raft of changes, differences

    Article by: MIKE KASZUBA and BAIRD HELGESON , Star Tribune staff writers Updated: May 9, 2012 – 5:25 AM

    The bill now goes to a House-Senate conference committee to resolve differences.

    The Senate ended an 11-hour debate by approving plans for a new $1 billion stadium on a 38 to 28 vote amid cheers from Vikings fans who could be heard throughout the state Capitol. The vote came one day after the House also approved the project, but with significant differences.

    “The Vikings didn’t get everything they wanted,” Sen. Julie Rosen, R-Fairmont, the chief Senate stadium author, said before the final vote.

    The team agreed.

    Vikings Vice President Lester Bagley said after the vote that the team remains committed to paying $427 million toward a roofed stadium at the Metrodome site. He had said that spending $532 million, as the House wants, is unworkable and did not publicly warm to the Senate’s call for $452 million from the team.

    But Rosen said she believed the team would have to spend at least the extra $25 million the Senate proposed. “Oh, yes. I do. Yeah,” Rosen said.

    The midnight vote came when stadium opponents, after a long day of trying to either thwart the project or get the Vikings to pay significantly more, conceded they did not have enough votes to block the plan. “They’re great businessmen,” Sen. Barb Goodwin, DFL-Columbia Heights, said of Vikings ownership, led by Zygi Wilf. “They certainly promised a lot of things here — except the money.”

    Senate Minority Leader Tom Bakk said stadium opponents were trying to string the debate out so there wouldn’t be enough days left to adopt a public subsidy package for the project before the Legislature legally must adjourn on May 21.

    “There are forces at work that are trying to run the clock out on this bill,” said Bakk.

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/150708885.html

  48. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    @Kansas Viking the sam was done in the Senate and in fact got bills passed that would have killed the stadium bill. After all this work in the House and the Senate, Lester Bagley came out and said that the private contribution is set in stone. Are the Wilf’s trying sabatoge their own bill? The people that worked on this bill took big risk to get it past and now the Vikings Org is saying we aren’t going to front another dime. We fans did our part now it is time for the Wilfs to compromise and pony up some more cash. I can’t believe the audacity to say “Nice Job Legislature but we aren’t going to meet you half way.” Boooooooo!!!!!

  49. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I think it’s time for Fans to head to Winter Park and tell the Wilfs to get it done.

  50. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    sorry not bills amendments were passed.

  51. By DRS on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    DEMOCRATS VOTING YES
    Bakk (Cook); Bonoff (Minnetonka); Cohen (St. Paul); Goodwin (Columbia Heights); Harrington (St. Paul); Higgins (Minneapolis); Kelash (Minneapolis); Koenen (Clara City); Langseth (Glyndon); Latz (St. Louis Park); Metzen (South St. Paul); Pappas (St. Paul); Reinert (Duluth); Rest (New Hope); Saxhaug (Grand Rapids); Sheran (Mankato); Sieben (Newport); Skoe (Clearbrook); Sparks (Austin); Stumpf (Plummer); Tomassoni (Chisholm); Wiger (Maplewood)

  52. By DRS on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    DEMOCRATS VOTING NO
    Dibble (Minneapolis); Dziedzic (Minneapolis); Eaton (Brooklyn Center); Hayden (Minneapolis); Lourey (Kerrick); Marty (Roseville); McGuire (Falcon Heights); Torres Ray (Minneapolis)

  53. By DRS on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    REPUBLICANS VOTING YES
    Carlson (Bemidji); Fischbach (Paynesville); Gimse (Willmar); Howe (Red Wing); Ingebrigtsen (Alexandria); Jungbauer (East Bethel); Koch (Buffalo); Magnus (Slayton); Michel (Edina); Miller (Winona); Nelson (Rochester); Nienow (Cambridge); Pederson (St. Cloud); Robling (Jordan); Rosen (Fairmont); Senjem (Rochester)

  54. By DRS on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    REPUBLICANS VOTING NO
    Benson (H-a-m Lake); Brown (Becker); Chamberlain (Lino Lakes); Dahms (Redwood F-a-l-l-s); Daley (Eagan); DeKruif (Madison Lake); Gazelka(B-r-a-i-n-e-r-d); Gerlach (Apple Valley); H-a-l-l (Burnsville); H-a-n-n (Eden Prairie); Hoffman (V-e-r-g-a-s); Kruse (Brooklyn Park); Lillie (Lake Elmo); Limmer (Maple Grove); Newman (Hutchinson); Ortman (Chanhassen); Parry (W-a-s-e-c-a); Thompson (Lakeville); Vandeveer (Forest Lake); Wolf (Spring Lake Park)

  55. By DRS on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    REPUBLICANS NOT VOTING
    Olson (Minnetrista)

  56. By DRS on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings dilemma: How much is too much for stadium
    By BRIAN BAKST Associated PressAssociated Press
    Posted: 05/09/2012 12:03:47 AM PDT
    May 9, 2012 7:11 AM GMTUpdated: 05/09/2012 12:11:45 AM PDT

    ST. PAUL, Minn.—If the Minnesota Vikings finally want to break out of the shabby Metrodome and into a shiny new, $975 million home, they face a harsh reality: They’ll need to ante up or walk away empty-handed.

    Throughout the franchise’s latest push for a publicly subsidized football stadium, team executives insisted that the private contribution be capped at $427 million. The figure was “set in stone,” Vikings Vice President Lester Bagley said as recently as last week.

    Now it is time to find out just how true that is

    http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders/ci_20581021/vikings-dilemma-how-much-is-too-much-stadium

  57. By DRS on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings dilemma: How much is too much for stadium
    By BRIAN BAKST Associated PressAssociated Press
    Posted: 05/09/2012 12:03:47 AM PDT
    May 9, 2012 7:11 AM GMTUpdated: 05/09/2012 12:11:45 AM PDT

    In sheer dollars, the current Vikings stadium plan would be the third priciest in football, behind recently built facilities in Dallas and New York. The public contribution by percentage could still shift, but in all likelihood a Minnesota subsidy is likely to cover between 40 and 50 percent of construction.

    That would put the Vikings package somewhere in the middle of NFL projects over the past dozen years.

    In Cleveland, for instance, the Browns’ $290 million stadium opened in 1999 after three-quarters was financed by taxpayers. The gleaming Giants and Jets $1.6 billion stadium was built entirely with private funds.

    Time has made the Vikings venture more expensive. Back in 2000, the team floated a stadium project of about $400 million.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders/ci_20581021/vikings-dilemma-how-much-is-too-much-stadium

  58. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Speaker of the House Zellers and Sentor John Marty are the biggest obstructionist to this bill. If vikings fans want to get out a few representatives, I would start with these two. Don’t threaten or any of that just get out the word to not relect these two people. We are all adults and that should be good enough to prove the point.

  59. By DRS on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    The wait and seers will coast every time.

  60. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    The Senate and House will work out their differences. The Wilfs will have to pony up some more cash. Time for the Wilfs to compromise and get the stadium done. If they stand fast on this 427M, it’s time for Vikings fans to get to Winter Park and tell the Wilfs to get it done. This is silly to squabble for 10 percent of the deal and more likely 5 percent after the conference committee is done.

  61. By DRS on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    When you go to vote remember to do the Vikings test, did or did not the person you are voting for vote for the stadium.

  62. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    @DRS don’t you think it is reasonable for the Wilfs to pony up another 5 to 10 percent of the cost if they have a valid stadium deal voted infavor?

  63. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I am thinking if I am an owner of another NFL team. I would have a hard time voting for a move if the difference is only 5 to 10 percent of the overal cost. Some of these owners had to pony up a lot more to get their stadiums done.

  64. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Very disappointed in the senate stance on the soccer team issue…

    Why would the senate believe the this is a bad deal for MPLS ??…

    There is zero risk involved for the city in that venture….Just bring in fans to stimulate the local economy…And gain more taxes from soccer players,parking,etc..

    On the other hand Zygi takes a large risk…40 million to buy a team…

    Then pay an “extra” 50 million… to turn the 975 million fixed roof project being worked on now in conference committee…Into a 1.025 billion state of the art retractable roof…

    The extra 50 million would fall only as a responsibility of the Vikings….

    No added tax payers money…

    Total investment in this plan for MPLS…Zero…Except for giving the Vikings
    5 yrs free rent 17 days a season for soccer games played in the new stadium…

    Total investment risk for the Wilf’s…90 million dollars !!!

    And the senate is giving the Wilf’s a hard time about this ???…

    This is a golden opportunity for the MPLS area to make even more money off of their stadium investment…With zero risk…

    Wake up senators !!!

  65. By DRS on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B. I think it would be reasonable if it was the best I could get out of the State, though with all the s-h-i-t the state has been putting the Vikings through the last 10+ years I may be a little reluctant to be a-c-u-m-i-n-a-t-i-n-g at this time.

  66. By minne on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Supposing the bill gets passed and signed by Dayton. If the Vikings reject the offer, could they still move? My thought is that Goodell stated that he would allow the Vikings to move if Minnesota did not get a stadium bill passed, but assuming the bill does pass, would it not be then the fault of the Vikings ownership for not agreeing to the bill, thus they would not qualify for the moving of the franchise?

  67. By VikingsFan1972 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I am not celebrating or backing down from contacting my representatives until this thing is a done deal and they set the groundbreaking date. I hate to say it, but I don’t trust that this is going to pass. I’m not pessimistic, I am realistic. There are too many ways that this could fall apart yet.

  68. By ozzinator on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I’m not a one issue voter, so cannot vote some one out over just this issue.

  69. By DRS on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    The Minnesota Vikings Stadium: A Test of Economic Principle
    An academic who studies stadium economics actually has a vote on the Vikings stadium issue. Here’s why he stuck to his principles.
    By Sean Gregory | @seanmgregory | May 8, 2012

    Read more: http://keepingscore.blogs.time.com/2012/05/08/the-minnesota-vikings-stadium-a-test-of-economic-principle/?iid=sp-article-mostpop1#ixzz1uO3nIc8N

  70. By PurplHaze on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Everybody that thinks Bagley said the $427 million team commitment is “set in stone” needs to go listen to the press conference posted here on Vikings dot com. He says NOTHING of the sort, and simply states that negotiations need to take place to come up with an agreement that works for ALL PARTIES INVOLVED!

    To me, that’s an optimistic response to the extra $50 mil to $105 mil in amendments. DON’T BE SO DARN NEGATIVE!!!

  71. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    @minnie this is the exact point I am making. A move has to be approved by the majoirty of owners of the NFL. We are talking about an increase of 5 to 10 percent of the total project. I can’t see the owners being sympathetic to the Wilfs over that difference. I would imagine the Wilfs support in the NFL would decay quickly. They might get an agreement to sell, but I think the state of MN has met the obligation the NFL put on it. I think a move now is off the table.

  72. By PurplHaze on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Actually that should read, “To me, that’s an optimistic response to the extra $25 mil to $105 mil in amendments.”

  73. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I think the Vikings will offer a percentage of each years naming rights..

    This would be a cost not expected right away…But would be a payment made annually…Just as the Vikings would receive money for the naming rights each season…Somewhere from the 1-2 million dollar range (might work) each season…

    If they would extend the 30 yr lease to 35 yrs…Not the 40 yrs the state is asking for…That would also be a huge selling point…

    The idea is compromise…Let the house and senate see the give and take…And the bill will pass…

    The above ideas do just that…And should be doable for for both the Vikings and the house and senate…And Dayton…

    My best guess scenario…lol… ; )

    Go Zygi !!!….Go Vikings !!!

  74. By DRS on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Published May 09, 2012, 12:16 AM

    Minnesota Senate approves Vikings stadium plan

    The Minnesota Senate approved a Vikings stadium construction bill 38-28 late Tuesday night. Bill author Sen. Julie Rosen, R-Fairmont, said the bill was a compromise among the parties involved, and “there’s a lot of win-win in it.”

    By: Danielle Nordine and Don Davis, State Capitol Bureau

    ST. PAUL – The Minnesota Senate approved a Vikings stadium construction bill 38-28 late Tuesday night.

    Bill author Sen. Julie Rosen, R-Fairmont, said the bill was a compromise among the parties involved, and “there’s a lot of win-win in it.”

    “It’s a great day for Vikings fans and for Minnesota,” Vikings Vice President Lester Bagley said after the vote.

    A joint committee of House and Senate members will have to work to combine the two versions of the plan before final approval

    http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/236112/

  75. By minne on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    @Mike B That is what I am thinking as well. I am totally for building the new stadium and hope all parties come to a head to work this deal out. The one thing that keeps getting brought up though is that the Vikings are contributing the third most (in terms of dollars) to new a stadium. However I do not sympathize with them on that becase it is also the third most expensive stadium ever built. Thus does the percentage they are contributing equal the third most? If they are unwilling to pay 5 to 10 percent more for the stadium, I would then be upset with Vikings ownership and begin to question there intentions of keeping the team here.

  76. By DRS on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings New Stadium Closer To Reality After Senate P-a-s-s-e-s Bill

    http://minnesota.sbnation.com/minnesota-vikings/2012/5/9/3009168/vikings-stadium-update-senate-vote-amendments

  77. By dakotakid59 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Wow!- this sure great news.Now lets jump that last hurdle and then lets build it. And about the Mullet,I dont think Jerrid wife will allow it but it sure would be cool.Guys you know what happens when you go aginst the wifes. They cut you off.

  78. By doug d on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    We are getting very close. I have my fingers crossed. I was just wondering that when this is all over and finally open. Do you think that the Vikings should somehow thank Ed Spooner for sitting in the front row for every hearing. Maybe give him a title like the Jets have Fireman Ed. I dont even know if Ed Spooner will accept it. but I thought it was great seeing him there sitting in front suporting the Vikings while alot of us couldn;t get ot the capital. It was ajust a thought, I know many others were there.

  79. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I completely agree minnie it’s now on the Vikings Org to compromise and keep their promise to keep the Vikings in MN.

    I think the soccer amendment is that OK Ziggy we hear what you want, but we want you to negotiate like everyone else. It gives the ability to have other interested parts to come in and negotiate which is reasonable. I would agree with the exclusion of other negotiations if Ziggy said I will bring in a MLS team and I will pay for the retractable roof. I think that was the language there would have been no amendment.

  80. By NorthwoodsVikesFan on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I think Jared should sport the caveman locks from his Rage commercials! That would be cool.

  81. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Here ya go Zygi…Prove to the house and senate you were listening to their debates…

    In conference committee…Offer the Vikings to commit from the naming rights funds 1.2 million to the state…And 100,000 each year to the following state funds…Housing and developement within a 50 mile radius of the stadium…100,000 to preschool learning fund…100,000 to schools and activities funds in the local area…And commit these funds in the name of the Vikings organization for the length of the lease the Vikings sign…

    Total contribution would be 1.5 million each year from the naming rights fund for the Vikings…300,000 of which that should be tax deductable… : )

    You would make a lot of senators happy you were listening to them in the senate last night…And could go a very long ways to mend some emotional fences.. ; )

  82. By DRS on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Minnesota Vikings stadium bill gets OK from state SenateAssociated Press
    Published: May 9, 2012 at 01:06 a.m. Updated: May 9, 2012 at 09:54 a.m.

    ST. PAUL, Minn. — After 11 hours of debate and some close calls, the Minnesota Vikings stadium legislation won approval late Tuesday from the state Senate to set up a final round of negotiations.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828f6960/article/minnesota-vikings-stadium-bill-gets-ok-from-state-senate

  83. By NorthwoodsVikesFan on May 9, 2012 | Reply

  84. By minne on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    @Mike B Exactly!! I think giving exlusive MLS rights to the Wilf’s under the current cost proposal would be out of the question as well. Wilf’s would have been making a ridiculous amount of money of that proposal, so yes they do need to come to the table and negotiate. Minnesota people are doing their part, politicians are FINALLY doing their part, Wilf’s have to do their part as well and be some what flexible.

  85. By zuehlke on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    i watch most of the 12 hrs it took there was alot of argueing between the two partys i feel its still a long shot and i pray they come to a conclusion in the committee which does not look good

  86. By DRS on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings stadium bill pressed for time as it moves forward
    ST. PAUL – The task of finding a way to build a Vikings stadium falls to six legislative negotiators after the House and Senate passed different plans.
    By: Danielle Nordine and Don Davis, State Capitol Bureau, INFORUM
    Published May 09, 2012, 10:21 AM

    Negotiators primarily supported the original bill, which the House and Senate significantly changed. They are Rep. Morrie Lanning, R-Moorhead; Rosen; Rep. Terry Morrow, DFL-St. Peter; Sen. Bill Ingebrigtsen, R-Alexandria; Sen. Roger Reinert, DFL-Duluth; and Rep. Joe Hoppe, R-Chaska.

    http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/360216/group/homepage/

  87. By DRS on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Down to six to say what will and what will not be in the bill, then on to the final votes, then to the Gov.

  88. By DRS on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Have a great day, keep the faith and pray that the bill will survive the final vote.

  89. By DRS on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Bye for now.

  90. By NorthwoodsVikesFan on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Signed Anthony Jacobs DE from the Gophers today to add some competition.

  91. By Rocksalt on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    keep in mind that the next step is to put a committe together that finds a compromise between bill from legislature and bill from senate……ultimately, this must still be accepted by Vikings,,,,,….if not, then the Vikings are free to do whatever is in their best interest……

  92. By minne on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    @Rocksalt I am not sure the Vikings could move if they were the ones to reject the bill. At that point, the government would have shown their willingness to keep the team and would have met Goddell’s obligations. The Vikings, at that point, would be the ones at fault. Obviously the government can’t go just pass some bill they know will be rejected, but if a fair offer is presented, I think the Vikings will have to accept.

  93. By Rocksalt on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Not so sure, minne……..they are not legally bound to accept an offer that is not in their best interests, nor one that was changed from the initially brokered agreement. They could simply call a;ll the owners for a vote on the validity or fairness of the amended bill, and then if they get a maority of owners to side with them, they are free to do whatever they wish.

  94. By Rocksalt on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    majority

  95. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    @Rock that’s the point if they can get a majority of the NFL owners. I think at this point and only talking 5 to 10 percent increase in private funds. I don’t see many NFL owners sympathetic with the Wilfs. I do see them supporting the fact the MN did get a stadium deal done. This something they haven’t been able to do in a couple other places. I think the state of MN has fullfilled the requirement that Roger Goodell had set. I think the Wilfs at this point need to compromise and finish the deal.

  96. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I also think at this point fi the Wilfs are unwilling to pony up that additional 5 to 10 percent. Vikings Fan should say foul on the Wilfs.

  97. By Rocksalt on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B I agree with you in terms of what would be FAIR. However, the owners ……..I suspect would side with the Wilfs…..

  98. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Taking into consideration the Vikings have been forced by the state to stay in Minnesota because of the lease requirements…

    I don’t believe the NFL will force the Vikings into contract with the state of Minnesota…

    The Vikings have fulfilled all contract requirements asked of them until the present date…

    You can be rest assured the NFL will allow Zygi to make any decisions he needs to going forward…Including moving out of the state if necessary…

  99. By Rocksalt on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    We can cry foul till we are blue in the face…….the fact is I do not beleive the Wilfs are LEGALLY bound to accept a deal they did not initially agree to.

  100. By Rocksalt on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Well said OTKalil2012

  101. By Rocksalt on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    one of the conditions for moving is an UNFAVORABLE business climate………while what constitutes UNFAVORABLE is surely subjective, just as in FAIR is subjective, you can bet your last dollar that:
    1. The Wilfs are businessmen
    2. They have high powered lawyers
    3. They will make the decision that is in their best interests, financially speaking.

  102. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    The Vikings should bend a little in conference committee…

    But will not break…

    All that is needed is some compromise on both sides…

    I see that happening…

    As long as the state doesn’t require to much on their end ??…

  103. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I have to disagree two reason is fairness second is the precident set. The next time the NFL is trying get a stadium done with public funds. The other state or local goverment will remember what happened here. To give the Wilfs the ability to out after the State did what was required would set a precident and other government entities would no longer be as willing to get a deal done. They would infact call the NFL’s bluff and it almost happened here to the detriment of the fans. It is time for the fans to call on the Wilfs to meet the Legislature and agree to the compromised bill. Otherwise it is time for the Fans to taligate outside Winter Park That is my feeling on the issue.

  104. By Carl K on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Parody- I agree with you that this stadium bill is “NOT” workable for the Wilfs.
    And I am not sure if this bill can be “re-negotiated” so both sides can meeting in the middle as Mike B suggests.

    My only answer for you is… when Roger Goodell came to visit a couple weeks ago, he made a positive impact… and things began to happen. What did he say?

    It is my hope that Roger told the lawmakers to get whatever bill past that they can… and the NFL “might” step in and cover the difference if needed.

    If the NFL wants to keep the Vikings in Minnesota… I think it will be in Rogers hands to cover the 105M not the Wilfs or the State.

    The bill will p a s s… and the Wilfs will continue to claim it is unworkable… the Wilfs will then file the needed paper work the NFL requesting a move or sale.

    Roger will then have final say… he will either grant the move request or cover the 105M gap to keep the Vikings from moving.

    IMO, the NFL will make the final call if the Vikings stay or move.

  105. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    The NFL sees the broader Picture they want a new Stadium in San Diego and Improvements to The Rams Stadium they have to be honest brokers with local and state goverments.

  106. By Rocksalt on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B you ignore the fact that the wilfs agreed to pay 427 Mil, not the amended versions put forward by both political bodies……..so the Wilfs Are not LEGALLY bound to accept something that they did not originally agree to.
    I agree with your sentiments, but have tried to look at this logically.
    I am no lawyer, perhaps there are fellow bloggers who are. they could give us the legal issues here.

  107. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Legally your right they are not obligated, but the Wilfs are not the only decision mankers in the deal. The NFL has overriding say on sales or moves of a team. They need to look like honest brokers to all parties as they have a larger interest than just the Vikings Stadium. The NFL may infact pick up the additional 5 to 10 percent, but they could just as well tell the Wilfs we will loan you the additiomal portion. Remember the Vikings Stadium is not the only thing they are working on.

  108. By minne on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I still agree with Mike B, while they may not cover an additional 105m, they will have to cover additional, or agree to user fees. It is all but obvious that the Wilf’s stand to make a killing under the current proposal, and they will have to reduce some of their protected margin in an amended bill. This is basic business, Wilf’s bring a proposal, the partner (Minnesota) reworks the terms, the Wilf’s in turn lobby the commitee for alternate terms that both sides can agree. If the Wilf’s fail to do so, then they are not as good of business men as some may suggest because they stand to make far less by selling to LA. The Wilf’s will not own the LA Vikings.

  109. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    This is not a major issue going into conference committee…

    The Vikings have known all along this would end up coming down to a conference committee ending up putting together the final details of the stadium bill for the final votes of the house and senate before heading to the governor to be signed…

    While this may be new to us…This is not something new as procedure for the house and senate…Zygi has been wading in waters like this many times before gaining project approvals in other states…

    Give the state and Zygi some credit here…They both know compromises need to get done…

    We just have to wait for those results…

  110. By minne on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Or simply put, you can not offer a proposal and expect someone to agree to it in it’s entirety, there has to be compromise on both ends. I can assure you that the other owner’s, as businessmen, will not sympathize with the Wilf’s if they fail to compramise. Every good business man understands the art of negotiations and the need for compramise.

  111. By Carl K on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I can only conclude that the State Government and the Wilfs are going down this current path at the request for Mr. Goodell.

  112. By Rocksalt on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    We shall see as it plays out……

  113. By Rocksalt on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    minne-
    Far less by selling team to LA? How so?

  114. By minne on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Or it could be done as they are given the MLS exclusive rights but over and additional 105 mil, or something much closer to that figure than 25 mil. Soccer is also a sport that is growing rapidly in the United States, some would argue that it is the fastest growing sport, and there is plenty of money to be made in the MLS.

  115. By minne on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Selling a team to LA gives them one lump sum return on their investment. Think of it like the lottery, you take the lump sum and pay extrodinary taxes thus drastically reducing your profit margin. If they are able to work a deal that keeps them as owners, and keeps the team in Minnesota, they do not receive their entire profit at once, but over the course of 30 plus years. This will minimize taxes paid onthe income, also while maintaining ownership they will profit from other events that will be held in the new staidum. Also if they are given MLS exclusive rights in Minnesota, they stand to make money there. If they get a stadium, I am sure you see other Wilf businesses pop in the area. The upside of maintaining ownership and gaining money over the course of time is much higher than selling the team outright.

  116. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B and minne…

    The state should not be digging into Zygi’s billfold…He better be making money…Or he would not be doing this deal !!

    The state is making money from all the fans…Taxes from players…Taxes from the Vikings organization,motels,parking.rent of the stadium,etc,etc…

    The state collects 23 million a year in tax income just from players alone now each year !!…3 years amounts to 66 million dollars tax revenue for the state of Minnesota…

    The dome cost 60 million dollars to build 30 yrs ago…3 years of inflated salaries of players in the NFL make enough to pay for the original dome…

    You can bet 30 years from know…The inflation rates will be very similar…

    The state will be making a lot of money from the Vikings in the next 30 years…

    Not just Zygi…

    Is the state paying for those huge contracts that Zygi is paying out to his players ???…

  117. By minne on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Also I do not honestly see a current team going to LA. Look at the history of LA football teams, and you see that they have all failed in LA for one reason or another. Sure LA has the 2nd largest market, but that market is already divided by three other NFL teams (Raiders, Chargers, 49ers). Thus any team moving to LA will already be behind because they will have to work to steal fans away from all three of those teams. Now stealing fans from the Raiders shouldn’t be super difficult because they are not good, but at the same time do have loyal fans that will not switch teams. However taking a significant fan base from the Chargers and 49ers will prove difficult because they are good teams with loyal fan bases. Plus the passing of Seau, I think, will have people jumping on the Chargers bandwagon for a few years.

  118. By minne on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Your right, the state does stand to make money, but the issue is the gap between what the state stands to make and what Zygi stands to make is substantial, I assure you. Zygi has to be willing to give a litte.

    And no the state is not paying those huge contracts, but neither is Zygi… The Vikings Corporation is, which just so happens to be controlled by Zygi. It is not like he is digging into his savings account to pay players.

    Again I am all for the stadium, but for it to pass Zygi will without question have to reach a compromise.

  119. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Hope we hear something positive soon…

    Later all…

    Enjoyed all points of view today…

    Gett’er done Zygi !!!

  120. By Cody C on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    can we watch the conferance committeand if so is there a link to it

  121. By VegasVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    One hundred and twenty first!!

  122. By Carl K on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    OTK- love your insight and your positive attitude… but I don’t think I would want to be on a conference committee that has to settle a 105M staduim shortfall right out of the gate.

  123. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Private meetings behind closed doors with a Vikings private business…

    Voting should be public from the house and senate floors….

    If they come to terms on a agreement reached between both parties involved…

  124. By iaVIKE on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/vikings_not_confident_peterson_will_play_in_opener/10752551

  125. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Carl K…

    There are 2 totally separate versions of the stadium bill in front of the conference committee…One from the house…And one from the senate…

    The senate version voted on a 25 million dollar Vikings increase…The house voted for a 105 million dollar Vikings cost increase…

    The conference committee is to trying to finalize a bill on a dollar amount increase for the Vikings both can agree upon…

    Or for the Vikings…Maybe not at all…

    I believe the Vikings will do better by offering more than the 25 million asked by the senate…

    But no where close to the 105 million the house asked for…

    It will all come down to a compromise….

    What that will be…Who knows ??…

    Just a best guess scenario here…

    But could see the Vikings doing 30-40 million dollars more…

    But not all of it at once…But with using stadium naming rights funds over the duration of the lease…

    And the duration of the lease also needs to be settled on yet also…

    Being negotiated anywhere from a 30 year-40 year lease requirement being asked from the Vikings ??…

  126. By NorthwoodsVikesFan on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t see how the state of Minnesota can claim they “fulfilled their side of the deal” when all they did was pass a vote on something that bears little resemblance to the original agreement, without all parties involved. The numbers don’t mean a thing – the house and senate could have just as well amended the whole thing to say the Vikings will fund the stadium 100%, and then claim they “passed a stadium bill.”

    I, too, am sure that things will get worked out in the end, after everyone involved sharpens their pencils and digs a little deeper in their pockets.

  127. By Spencer on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Toby can hold down the fort till AP returns.

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  129. By Pooonder on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    When will the conference committee have their hearing?
    When will it all be done?

  130. By Spencer on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    So is Toby 100% healthy now?

  131. By Troutdaddy on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    According to my neighbor- who is a lawyer, the Wilfs are not obligated by any means to accept the ammendment or any additional funding as it was not part of the original penned deal. Any change to the first agreement would need to be discussed, the original agreement woul dhten be terminated legally and then a whole new agreement with any changes would need to be approved by all parties and then made official. Looking at this process from a legal standpoint gives me a headache, but the fact remains that it sounds that all parties involved are willing to use the give-and-take to adjust accordingly to what would be fair. I think that the Wilf’s do not want to move the team or sell. I think they have skin in the game and want to do all they can to make this deal happen. If in fact this is going to cause a hardship on finances for the Wilfs, then they will obviously give other options a look, but I am sure they will be willing to make adjustments to find a solution that is right for everyone. Who knows, maybe the NFL is going to chip in some cash-flow as a gesture to aid in the process. I just wanted to say that I think the Wilf’s have been very good to Minnesota, the Viking organization and the fans. They truly want what’s best for all and if they think this is an unfair deal for any one of these then they are going to speak up loud and clear. The fact is that there were very specific hoops that have to be jumped through with the House and Senate, and those hoops are complete. Now- you have to iron out the details where it can get a little difficult to haggle over this 5 -10 percent. I am optimisitic that the Wilfs will be gracious as they have always been and the Vikes will be set for the next 30 years! At least that is my hope. Let’s just keep removing all of these stumbling blocks and play some freaking football!!!

  132. By NorthwoodsVikesFan on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Given all the legal disclosure, it seems like the vote then was a pointless empty action, since they voted yes to apples when the Wilf’s offered oranges. Am I close in assuming that this conference committee is basically a mediator?

  133. By Titus on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY THIRD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  134. By minne on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t know that their obligation is questioned, it is whether or not they would be officially approved for the relocation of the team if they refused to accept any sort of an amended bill. I agree the Wilf’s have been fair, but also understand that they need to be willing to rework the proposed bill if they truly want to keep the team in Minnesota.

  135. By Spencer on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Obama has said today that he thinks gay marriage is fine and should be legal.

    Well Mr. President, I disagree…I believe in Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

  136. By Original Shawn on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer … Are you serious ??? Our president has blatantly and publicly stood for equal rights? Thats outrageous

  137. By minne on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I believe in evolution.

  138. By Titus on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, you da man!

  139. By Spencer on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    AP has been saying hes pushing for Week 1 to come back…somebody needs to tell him to slow down. Toby can steer the ship till he comes back.

    Vikings trainers….wait till he is 100% healthy!!

  140. By Spencer on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Toby will rush for 914 yards.

  141. By Titus on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Plus keep AP off the field in DC– the last two seasons the Redskins injured him.

  142. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    The conference committee merges the admendments so that both sides can agree. So the house says 105M and Senate 25M they will meet somewhere between. No new admendments can be added. Some can be removed but have to be agreed on.

  143. By iaVIKE on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Sounds like Toby has put on a lot of bulk, and has been working hard this offseason. Bet he runs all over Jax in week one

  144. By Titus on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Jacksonville does not stand a chance. We will win more than we lose — finally two losing seasons is all I can bear.

  145. By Spencer on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Toby averaged just under 5yrds a pop last year with that terrible o-line…this will be his year.

  146. By iaVIKE on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    How do you guys think Alan Williams will fare as DC this year? Havn’t heard much from him since he was brought in.

  147. By Spencer on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    He will do fine- we have the talent and Cook is returning.

  148. By Legendary on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Cook is horendous. Viking secondary is in major trouble yet again. I predict the Vikes at 5-11… If they are lucky.

  149. By Spencer on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    No comnent.

  150. By Carl K on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    OTK or Mike B-
    How involved are the Vikings in this process of bring the House and Senate versions together?

    If an agreement (middle ground) is reached by the House and Senate on a stadium bill… can the Vikings or the NFL still claim that it is unworkable or rejectable?

    Does anyone know how much involvement the Vikings have in the conference committee?

  151. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    We need more of those from you, Spencer.

  152. By KoN on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t believe that the Vikes are involved in the conference committee at all.

  153. By Spencer on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Nova- From 1-10 how excited are you to see Our Hero?

  154. By KoN on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    NVM, sounds like committee members are meeting with the Vikes.

  155. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Is Tarkenton coming back? Put me down for a ten.

  156. By Legendary on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer-that is because there is nothing you can say to rebute the truth.

  157. By Spencer on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    How in the He|| is Cook terrible, Legendary?

  158. By Legendary on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    How is he good?

  159. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    HAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAAHAAA!

  160. By Spencer on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Vincent J

  161. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer…..this would be a good time for “no comment”.

  162. By Legendary on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    33 tackles, 8 assist, and 6 pass defences in 12 games.. that is less than 3 tackles per game, 0.66 assists a game, and 0.5 pass defences a game..

  163. By Legendary on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings are still rebuilding and will need another year or two and they will be division favorites.

  164. By Spencer on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Chris Cook vs #1 WRs last year.

    Vincent Jackson- 2 catches
    Mike Williams- 0 catches
    Megatron- 3 catches
    Dwayne Bowe- 2 catches
    Larry Fitzgerald- 2 catches.

    Saying Cook is terrible is just f-cking stupid.

  165. By Titus on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer that was the wisest statement you ever made.

  166. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Legendary…..You’re not counting all the “p@sses” that were thrown his way in jail. By QB’s named “Bubba”.

  167. By Spencer on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I swear its moronic fans like you who judge players solely by the stats, but not by how they perform on the field.

    In 2010 Asher Allen had more ints than Nmadi…so does that make Asher better than Asmoughai???

  168. By Spencer on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    A CBs primary job is to shutdown the other teams best WR…COOK DID THAT!!!

    Honestly Legendary, youre stupid.

  169. By Legendary on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, how many times was he lined up across from those respective players, and how many times was the ball thrown his way on those plays…

    Ps you just threw stats at me, so would that make you a moronic fan as well?

  170. By Titus on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Legendary, put down the mask and post under your regular username.

  171. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    OK>>>>HE’S GOT BAD STATS>>>>BAD CHARACTER ISSUES>>>>>PLAYS AN AVERAGE OF 6 GAMES PER YEAR>>>>>>SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT PLAYER TO ME??????????????????????????????????????

  172. By Spencer on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Legendary- name the top 3 Cbs on the team

  173. By Barry Proulx aka Legendary on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    What does the top three Cbs on the team have anything to do with Chris Cook being good?? To say Cook is currently our #2 cb (which excludes anyone picked up the Draft as they have to prove themselves) is just proving that our secondary sucks. Doesn’t mean Chris Cook is good.

  174. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    And then the top 3 Nbc, Abc, Fox, Hbo, Shotime, etc………..

  175. By Spencer on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I was simply asking a question….

  176. By Titus on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Nova, this is ridiculous. Cook again? Really?

  177. By Titus on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Nova– HA HA HA HA HA

  178. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Kind of listing the top 3 slugs to eat if you’re starving in the jungle.

  179. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    *like listing

  180. By Spencer on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I was provoked.

  181. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    By Spencer on May 9, 2012 | Reply
    He will do fine- we have the talent and Cook is returning. You weren’t provoked, this comment started it all.

  182. By Titus on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Either way, “I was provoked” is an excuse. Practice some self-control, Sir Spencer.

  183. By Spencer on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    The FIRST time he said Cook was terrible, my response was no comment.

  184. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Keep it up. The “no comments” are extremely insightful.

  185. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    lol Cook again

  186. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I am assuming that the conference committee will be closed to anybody but those assigned to the conference. The vikings advisors would have to inform or get information before after or during breaks.

  187. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    That means Wobschall should post it by October.

  188. By Original Shawn on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Cedric Griffin

  189. By Titus on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Don’t assume anything in political processes.

  190. By Original Shawn on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    NFL Total Access … has already talked Cris Carter, Stadium, and Adrian Peterson. I think they finally got it right

  191. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I felt bad about Ced leaving he tried hard to recover from his injuries hope he does well in Washington

  192. By Original Shawn on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B … I agree. He was scr’appy and I hope he makes a full recovery.

  193. By Original Shawn on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    WTF NFL Network … lets get back to Minnesota Viking talk

  194. By Titus on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2012/05/09/vikings-stadium-conference-committee/

  195. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Chris Carter admits to bounties paid to his linemen to protect him against cheapshots. Is this really news? This occurred a decade ago now and now it’s brought up. This is a different NFL than 10 years ago Come On Man.

  196. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    In Carter’s case, threats were already made against him (allegedly). Favre never threatened any LB’s or Dl on the saints

  197. By Titus on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Who is Chris Carter? He was never a Viking.

  198. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Romanowski was a dirty player everyone knows that He was just a mean S_O_B.

  199. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Cris was.

  200. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    D@mn Titus Cris Carter
    Is this English class or what

  201. By Titus on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B.– Hardly– but one of the greatest ways you respect and honor someone is by knowing that person’s name! I am so tired of seeing people spell one of the greatest Vikings’ name wrong!

  202. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Bill Romanowski was the dirtiest player I ever saw. The following excerpt from Wiki does not even include when he spit in 49r’s receiver J.J Stokes’ face in a 97 game.

    Romanowski has been involved in numerous altercations with both teammates and opponents. In 1995, while with the Eagles, he was ejected from a game — and subsequently fined $4,500 — for kicking Arizona Cardinals fullback Larry Centers in the head.[1]
    Two more incidents occurred during the 1997 season while he played for the Broncos: In the first, he was fined $20,000 after a helmet-to-helmet hit on then-Carolina Panthers quarterback Kerry Collins in a preseason game resulting in Collins sustaining a broken jaw;[1] in the second, Romanowski spat in the face of 49ers wide receiver J. J. Stokes in a regular-season game played in December on a Monday night in response to Stokes’ taunting.[2] Two years later, while still with the Broncos, he was fined a total of $42,500 for three illegal hits plus a punch thrown at Kansas City Chiefs tight end Tony Gonzalez, and was also fined an undisclosed amount for throwing a football at Bryan Cox of the New York Jets, the ball hitting him in the crotch area.[3]
    In 2003, Romanowski attacked and injured one of his teammates, Marcus Williams, during a scrimmage. Williams, a backup tight end for the Oakland Raiders, was forced to retire after Romanowski confronted Williams after a play, ripped off his helmet, and crushed his eye socket with a punch.[4] Williams sued for damages of $3.4 million, arguing that Romanowski had been suffering from “roid rage” when he attacked him. This argument was later rejected by the judge on the grounds that Williams could not prove that Romanowski had actually used steroids on the same day as the attack. Williams was awarded $340,000. Williams was quoted as saying he and his lawyers “just wanted to prove what was right and wrong about football”.[

  203. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    OK, it did mention it.

  204. By Titus on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Nova, I remember that –

  205. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Conrad Dobler of the St. Louis Cardinals is a close second.

  206. By KoN on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I think you mean one of the greatest football players Titus. Imagine if Carter had a single, HoF-caliber QB for most of his career like Jerry Rice had in Steve Young. There would be a lot more discussion as to who was the greatest receiver ever.

  207. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    YOu are correct Titus thanks for the correction

  208. By Titus on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Thanks for not taking offense and seeing my point. I am partly agitated, because like KoN alluded, Cris should be in the HoF.

  209. By KoN on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Scratch that, not just a HoF-caliber QB, one of the best QBs ever.

  210. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Yes indeed Titus Carter and Brown are splitting the votes between them so it’s keeping them both out. One of these guys should for go selection process for one year so they don’t split it again.

  211. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    KON are you saying that Young is better than Montana, Bradshaw, Unitas, and Tarkenton?

  212. By firechildress on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Another great step for the stadium. But as people informed me on the last blog, I may need a new name. Suggestions?

  213. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_20584250/vikings-stadium-private-meeting-among-conference-committee-members?_requestid=13747805

  214. By KoN on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    No, but I am saying that he is on of the best QBs ever. That doesn’t limit it to a specific number. He could be number 10, he could be number 15, all I know is that he is up there.

  215. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    roastedfraizer lol

  216. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    BrazierFrazier.

  217. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    yeah I can buy that KoN

  218. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_20584321/vikings-blackout-amendment-unlikely-stick-stadium-bill-says

  219. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Good one Nova

  220. By Spencer on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    We may have a Montana/Young thing with Toby and AP if Toby shines.

  221. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Toby is a very physical runner he compliments AP He doesn’t have AP’s speed or ability to break tackles

  222. By Elgar on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    As the Godfather said, “It’s strictly business.” As an owner, you look at all options and decide whether it’s your best chance to make money or not. Just because you may own apartment complexes in the East does not mean you can sell those in today’s real estate market and get enough in return to free up funds for another project. (It’s not like Zyg has a billion in cash tucked into a box under his bed.) As, for moving to L.A., that would likely be Zygi’s ownership team selling to other ownership. How much will the other guys offer? If light rail comes to California as planned, you will be able to get to L.A. from the Central Valley (in midstate) in 2.5 hours. That brings you plenty of new fans, since a hotel stay is not required to see the game live. I already see Adrian Peterson jerseys worn out here in mid-California. Don’t ever think it cannot happen. The money is out here. All they need is a franchise. Expanding the number of teams dilutes any one team’s chances of winning it all. You reach a point where you are at a total number that works best, and 32 has some very nice advantages.

  223. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Allright…..AP jerseys from California to Nova Scotia !

  224. By KoN on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I doubt it Spence. I like Toby a lot and think that would be a starter for a lot of NFL teams. However, he and AP are on completely different levels. AP is elite, Toby is only very good. AP could make it into the HoF, Toby probably won’t.

  225. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    * And, as ZZ top says….” All points in-between”.

  226. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Stadium info…

    http://min.scout.com/2/1185022.html

  227. By firechildress on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Come on, I got nothing against Frazier. Not yet anyway…

  228. By Original Shawn on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    fire childress … how about firezellers

  229. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    “firechildress” worked because ” Dump that moronic, egotistical, alienate-the-players, illiterate, wanna-be head coach childress” is simply too long.

  230. By Elgar on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    whoops… I meant “high speed” rail…

  231. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Chili wasn’t worth that much breath.

  232. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    wish they would live feed the conference committee

  233. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    They might be voting on the committee’s final version of the stadium bill around 10 pm tonight ?..

  234. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    ” live-feeding” politicians consists of throwing small fish at them while they ooze in sewer pits.

  235. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    (Reporter)…..Have we got a “live feed”??…….(Cameraman)……”hang on, I think they’ll eat dead stuff”.

  236. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    lol

  237. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    They especially like rancid muskrat b@lls.

  238. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    * I think they serve them, dipped in cheese, on a stick at Lambeau Field.

  239. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    If they might be looking at the bill on the house floor around 10 pm tonight…

    I would think the senators and Vikings will be coming out from private chambers pretty soon then ???…

    So the politicians can look over the final draft for discussion later tonight…

    But again…Just guessing here…

  240. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    * But only to those select few packer fans who are adept at using popsicle sticks.

  241. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Nova…

    If you dip those politicians in cheese and serve them on a stick at a packer game…They will get eaten…

    Packer fans eat anything with cheese…God only knows where some of those cheese wedge-es have been ??

  242. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    It’s very difficult to read those tiny instructions on green bay popsicle sticks for the locals, they are too busy interbreeding.

  243. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    (Packer Fan)……I doesn’t have time to read no hi-fallutin words on my official Packer Popsicle Stick, my sister wants me” !!!!!!!!!……(Packer Friend)…..I’ll study on that there Popsicle Stick while you’re “busy”, but remember,I promised my uncle a “favor” for puttin’ them there wheels back on my trailer. He SWEARs he ain’t got that rash anymore !!!!

  244. By Spencer on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    F-ck the Packers.

  245. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    How does a Packer fan say good morning to his sister ??

    He f@rts and waves the covers in her face… : /

  246. By Spencer on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    The Packers Motto

    If you cant keep it in your pants, keep it in the family.

  247. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    good one Spencer…; )

  248. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    (packer teenage daughter)…..”Dad, can I borrow the car”?….(Packer Father, sitting in his Lazy-boy, downing a quart of cheap wine)……”Get on your knees, you know what to do’……(daughter)…….”oh gross, dad, you smell like sh1t”…..(packer Father)…..” yeah, your brother borrowed the truck an hour ago”.

  249. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    ewwwww

  250. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Nova….hahaha

  251. By spokaneviking on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I have been a Viking fan since 1970. I think the house and senate are asking Ziggy to pay too much. I hope they work out this thing out. He is the best owner they ever had. I fly in from Spokane once in awhile to go to games . I will be at the game in Seattle this year. goooo vikes!

  252. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    @spokaneviking I disagree what they are asking is not too much. I can see how others think that, but let’s be real here the state of MN is not a rich state.

  253. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/nfl/150827605.html

  254. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    The “Interbreeding Packer Fans” would be a good name for “Wham’s” lead-in band. That way, when the Metrodome is napalmed by F-18′s on a nice summer night, the Air Force could blame it on Chicago Bear fans.

  255. By spokaneviking on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I have been a cris carter fan forever. For the longest time I wondered why he did not get the hall of fame call. I know why now. Stats are there. Coments like he made the other day. The media can eat you alive.

  256. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Or Detroit Lion fans, but they’ve suffered enough.

  257. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Did someone say Wham

  258. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

  259. By Spencer on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    If we win a Superbowl, will all of this have been worth it?

  260. By Original Shawn on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    LOL not again

  261. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I’m going to have to take a break from this blog…

  262. By KoN on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    There is a livestream for, I believe, the official conference committee. Right now it is just showing empty chairs and playing acoustic music that definetely does not make me think “politics.”

  263. By KoN on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.dailynorseman.com/2012/5/9/3010771/once-more-into-the-breach-my-friends-once-more-into-the-breach#comments

  264. By Original Shawn on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Poor K

  265. By KoN on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Now it’s sad violin music, more fitting of politics.

  266. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OLK_HSyy1U Time to cleanse our minds of things like politicians, Wham, and other things that should be sentenced to death….

  267. By KoN on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Could they honestly not come up with a better soundtrack for us to listen to in preparation for politics.

  268. By KoN on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    That should have ended in a ?.

  269. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply


    this is better

  270. By Original Shawn on May 9, 2012 | Reply

  271. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLvXLp4f1gs even better

  272. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

  273. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

  274. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    there that one posted

  275. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W64rAocSKfs For all you people that believe the Vikes should play ” Downtown”, I’ll play “Downtown” by a famous Canuck…..

  276. By Original Shawn on May 9, 2012 | Reply

  277. By Titus on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Some pretty funny jokes there Nova, even if they do make me puke.

  278. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Something is going to happen…

    Papers are being handed out on the live stream now…

  279. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Titus….make sure to clean up after yourself.

  280. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    what’s the add there OTK

  281. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    the addy

  282. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.dailynorseman.com/2012/5/9/3010771/once-more-into-the-breach-my-friends-once-more-into-the-breach#comments

  283. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Looks like 10 pm will be when it starts up…

  284. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    wow that is bad music

  285. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    It seems to be the conference committee is setting up to report their structure of the new stadium bill..

    And most likely its changes to the final draft of the bill ??…

  286. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Bad music…

    Sounds like a good name for a rock band… ; )

  287. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    oh oh…Somebody opened the main doors…

    Politicians all over the place now…

  288. By Titus on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    SO, there was this huge grizzly bear, the kind you see in the Alaskan interior, and a hiker stumbled upon it while she was playing with her cubs. The hiker realized his mistake and immediately started to back slowly away, but it was too late. The mammoth bear, probably close to 2,000 pounds leapt forward and the hiker took off as fast as he could. He sprinted down this long sloping hill, glancing behind, only to see, in complete terror, the angry momma bear gaining fast. Bears can run about 40 miles an hour and this grizzly was no exception.

    The hiker, in complete panic, lost his footing and tumbled, now in a terrorized frenzy, his mind knew it was over and he screamed, “Jes.us!” Suddenly, the whole scene calmed and the bear stopped a few feet from the hiker. Jes.us looked at the hiker, and said, “All these years, I have reached out to you, but you said you were an atheist and I did not exist. Now you are in trouble and you call upon me?” The hiker looked at Je.sus’ loving blue eyes and knew it was okay, so he made a request, ” I know, I know, but at the least, can you please make that bear a Chr1stian?” AND , just like that, Je.sus was gone. The bear sat back, seemingly relaxed and then said, “Thank you, Lord, for this meal I am about to receive.”

  289. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Gone again ??

  290. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    what is this the final reading?

  291. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B……I post links to Led Zeppelin, Cream (Eric Clapton), and Neil Young and you call it “bad music”. You post “Wham” videos. My only question is, when were you hatched??????????

  292. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    talking about the committee room feed
    very bad

  293. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry, my mistake, Mike B.

  294. By Packer needs the Vikes on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    This is some funny stuff guys.

  295. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    we are in the house now

  296. By Titus on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Oops, wrong time for a joke? Is there more live feed of government proceedings?

  297. By KoN on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Luckily we still get to listen to the music, Mike.

  298. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Do they get to debate this thing again

  299. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Enough already with the Snoopy music…

  300. By KoN on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    They should actually blast this soundtrack on the floor during the proceedings. It would motivate the politicians to get things over more quickly.

  301. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    oops it’s the senate

  302. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B…

    Sure they will be talking about the bill trying to sway votes one way or another…

    The one thing they can’t do is change the bill anymore…They can just talk about it…And then vote on it…

  303. By greatirishpotatofamine on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Can anyone please give me an update on what’s happening right now?

  304. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    anyone tracking the house?

  305. By KoN on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Music, music is happening greatirishpotatofamine, but in all seriousness, nothing is really going on yet, it’ll probably start soon, but hasn’t yet. If you’d like you can tune into the stream. OTK posted a link a little while back.

  306. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.livestream.com/uptakemnhouse

  307. By Original Shawn on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    greatirishpotatofamine … well depending on what part of the country you are in the moon is out and kids all over are being tucked in. Somewhere a suicide is taking place and other places kids are being born.

  308. By greatirishpotatofamine on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    So are they about to vote again? I may as well tune in been watching all week

  309. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    oops house recessed till 11:45

  310. By Viking-ology on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I guess I have’nt missed anything-less a few jokes…

  311. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    here is the link again…

    http://www.dailynorseman.com/2012/5/9/3010771/once-more-into-the-breach-my-friends-once-more-into-the-breach#comments

  312. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    no one is voting yet

  313. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    looks like both houses are going to vote on it at the same time.

  314. By greatirishpotatofamine on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    excuse my ignorance, are you saying this thing will be over after tonight? and also how long till 11:45? i live in a foreign land

  315. By Mike B. on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    it is now 10:30 pm Central time

  316. By NovaScotiaVike on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWTqj5lvkFs 12:30 here, have to work tomorrow (for what it’s worth)…SKOL EVERYONE !

  317. By Titus on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    What’s going on? The committee is already done? Huh?

  318. By Viking-ology on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Is that 11:45 tonight or tommorrow AM?

  319. By Garrett on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Have the Vikings agreed to this bill???

  320. By Parody on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I have the stream going now – it says that they are in recess until “approximately 11:45pm”. So they’re about 45-minutes out yet.

  321. By Frederick Jones on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    SWEET HOME MINNESOTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  322. By Titus on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Parody– what is going on? Is the committee out of their meeting? Is there a vote coming?

  323. By Parody on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Titus – I really don’t have a clue. I just tuned in a few minutes ago and saw the links posted by a few others, so I decided to queue it up. Haven’t seen anything but a shot of the ceiling so far.

  324. By Parody on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    The stream is live again…not sure how long it will take them to start up the conversations…
    http://www.livestream.com/uptakemnhouse

  325. By greatirishpotatofamine on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    im missing seinfeld for this!

  326. By Titus on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    I had my fill the last two nights– I am getting to bed earlier tonight — I can read in two or three paragraphs what happened tomorrow.

  327. By Parody on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Seinfeld? Really? I’d be happy to watch an infomercial about a hemeroid cream if it made sure I could miss that sorry excuse of a sitcom.

  328. By greatirishpotatofamine on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Parody your soooo georges father, am i right fellas???

  329. By Parody on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Church music! Does that mean that they’re about to do something, or that they’re just trying to delay for a while yet?

  330. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    Not positive on this… : /

    But I think the senate has to finish their business first…Before the house can start…

    I don’t think the senate and house can be in session at the same time…

    So when the senate finishes up their business session…

    The house should begin…

  331. By OTKalil2012 on May 9, 2012 | Reply

    new blog…

  332. By sandiamond on May 10, 2012 | Reply

    http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-07-28/the-meanest-man-in-college-football-vontaze-burfict

  333. By sandiamond on May 10, 2012 | Reply

    Adam Schefter‏ May 8th

    Vikings tried out Redskins free agent LB Rocky McIntosh today.

  334. By sandiamond on May 10, 2012 | Reply

    1500 ESPN‏@1500ESPN

    Vikings sign ex-Gopher DL Anthony Jacobs

  335. By sandiamond on May 10, 2012 | Reply

    War room breakdown for Bills Picks:

    http://www.buffalobills.com/media-center/videos/Bills-Focus-Inside-Buffalos-Draft-Room/2f6db982-cad3-4b58-8c9e-980c9ec07d8c

  336. By sandiamond on May 11, 2012 | Reply

    http://thevikingage.com/2012/05/11/vikings-work-out-deal-with-u-of-m-for-use-of-tcf-bank-stadium/

  337. By sandiamond on May 11, 2012 | Reply

    http://minnesota.sbnation.com/minnesota-vikings/2012/5/11/3013846/minnesota-vikings-stadium-update-bill-voting

  338. By sandiamond on May 11, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Notes-Burficts-second-wind-Down-Under-Pike-continues-battle-Half-of-draft-class-in-fold/824a9a86-3d5d-49cb-a098-3ccb04d107c5

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