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Take 17: A Week-By-Week Look At Vikings 2012 Schedule

Posted by Mike Wobschall on April 18, 2012 – 6:23 am

The annual NFL schedule unveiling is a big deal for fans because it represents the first tangible aspect of the upcoming season. Yes, we already knew the opponents and locations for 2012, but there’s something about the NFL officially putting them in order and then unveiling it that generates excitement.

Let’s take a week-by-week look at the Vikings 2012 schedule, with a comment or two about each game included…

Week 1 vs. Jacksonville Jaguars: The Vikings open at home for the first time since 2007, as a pair of QBs from the 2011 draft class square off (Christian Ponder vs. Blaine Gabbert).

Week 2 at Indianapolis Colts: The Vikings get an early look at presumptive #1 overall pick Andrew Luck in what will also be their first regular season appearance at Lucas Oil Stadium.

Week 3 vs. San Francisco 49ers: Yes, the 49ers were 13-3 last year. But things worked out well the last time the Vikings played San Francisco at home in Week 3.

Week 4 at Detroit Lions: This will be the Vikings first and only division game in the season’s first 9 weeks.

Week 5 vs. Tennessee Titans: Assuming Adrian Peterson is healthy, this will be a showdown between the NFL’s best RB (Peterson) and the NFL’s second- or third-best RB (Chris Johnson). Also, Steve Hutchinson returns to Mall of America Field.

Week 6 at Washington Redskins: Leslie Frazier is 2-0 as Vikings Head Coach at FedEx Field, and to go 3-0 he’ll have to find a way to contain Robert Griffin III.

Week 7 vs. Arizona Cardinals: The Vikings and Cardinals have met each season since 2008, and the Cardinals have not won in Minnesota since Jimmy Carter was in office (1977).

Week 8 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: The Vikings face a former division (NFC Central) foe in the only scheduled prime time game – a Thursday night contest on NFL Network.

Week 9 at Seattle Seahawks: New Vikings TE John Carlson returns to Seattle to play his former team.

Week 10 vs. Detroit Lions: The Vikings have lost just once to Detroit at home since 1998.

Week 11 BYE: This is the latest bye week the Vikings have had since 1999.

Week 12 at Chicago Bears: A challenging final 6 games begins in the Windy City, where the Vikings have not won since 2007.

Week 13 at Green Bay Packers: The Vikings and Packers will play twice in December, something that has never happened in the history of this rivalry.

Week 14 vs. Chicago Bears: Vikings fans will get a look at new Bears WR Brandon Marshall as he, Jay Cutler and the Bears look to win at Mall of America Field for just the 3rd time in 7 contests.

Week 15 at St. Louis Rams: Oddly, the Vikings have played a regular season game at the Edward Jones Dome just once since 2003.

Week 16 at Houston Texans: A likely trendy Super Bowl pick, the Texans explosive offense features RB Arian Foster and WR Andre Johnson, a stiff challenge for the Vikings defense.

Week 17 vs. Green Bay Packers: Whether a surprise playoff-chasing team or a team trying to play spoiler, the Vikings won’t have a problem staying motivated for the season finale with Aaron Rodgers and the rival Packers coming to town.


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411 Responses to “Take 17: A Week-By-Week Look At Vikings 2012 Schedule”

  1. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    That’s all you could say about the Seahawks? They also have 3 or more players who recently played for the Vikings on their team, and the Vikings’ most recent offensive coordinator running the show. Plus, they have the rival Flynn fighting former Viking Jackson for the spot as a starter.

    With all that, this game should be pretty interesting.

  2. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    That one loss to Detroit was this last year, ending a long streak and convincing me that this team was going to be disgraceful in 2011.

  3. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    OVerall, the start of this schedule looks significantyly easier than the end. It looks like we could go 7-2 to begin the season, but then be in line for a series of losses, with 5 games against division teams who all appear set up for a Super Bowl run, and a game against an early favorite of the AFC. The only one of those final 7 games that I expect us to win is against the Rams. In any of the rest, we’ll be lucky if they’re close contests.

  4. By PurplHaze on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Let’s just make a good showing after that 3-13 season last year!

    SKOL VIKINGS!!!

  5. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Browns hot after Kalil?

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/04/cleveland_browns_to_conduct_pr.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

  6. By PurplHaze on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I can’t imagine those politicians would let such a Minnesota icon as the Vikings slip away. I’ve loved this team for 40+ years. Can’t imagine MN without them. Nor do I want to!

    KEEP THE MINNESOTA VIKINGS IN MINNESOTA!!!

  7. By PurplHaze on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Keep dreaming, Browns!

    KALIL WILL BE A VIKING!!!

  8. By Mike B. on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Pick Kalil with the #3 pick don’t mess this one up, Spielman.

  9. By PurplHaze on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    VIKES … KALIL @ #3 OVERALL!!! VIKES … KALIL @ #3 OVERALL!!!
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  10. By Roninmn.. on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    KALIL, FIRST ROUND, NUMBER THREE PICK. DO IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  11. By aaron rodgers on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Why do the vikings suck so much at life?

  12. By Roninmn.. on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @purplHaze We will keep the Vikings but get rid of the politicians. We have to make sure these Viking hater politicians get voted out. My district is voting for the Vikes.

  13. By Roninmn.. on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    aaron rodgers = cornholer

  14. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I reall don’t care about the draft anymore. My only concern now is getting a stadium. I would rather have the Vikings go 0-16 for the next 5 years, than watching them pack their bags for LA. Somebody do something!

  15. By vikesfan12 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder will lead the Vikes to the play-offs and save the franchise!! AP will come back strong and break records!!!

  16. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Not the time to fold-up and quit! Things can only get better from here…….

  17. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    By Rocksalt on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply
    Article By Jim Souhan MPLS STAR TRIBUNE

    Give Dean Urdahl credit. The man is a poet. Monday night, he evoked the likes of T.S. Eliiot and Tupac, packing worlds of meaning into a handful of words.
    “Why should the state of Minnesota contribute to a stadium for a billionaire owner?” he asked.

    Urdahl is a Republican representative from Grove City, and he did us all a favor by starting a key House panel meeting with that question.
    Here’s what the question revealed:

    • Some of our elected officials are often no smarter than the guy who writes in the comments section of an online newspaper, “Your stupid.”

    The “building playgrounds for billionaires and millionaires” line is as old as Jamie Moyer. It cynically panders to all of us who are not millionaires or billionaires, a safe if cowardly strategy. Urdahl has studied the stadium issue for years, and he comes up with a question a third-grader would ask?

    There are no major sports teams that are not owned by billionaires, or that do not employ millionaires. Ruling out building a stadium that could benefit a billionaire is like ruling out building roads for all those elitists who own cars.
    • Politicians like Urdahl are counting on you being as shallow as they are.
    Urdahl ignored all of the legitimate concerns about building a stadium for the Vikings, all of the complications that accompany the serpentine negotiations that result in any public-private partnership, and reduced the dialogue to something you might hear from a drunk at closing time.

    You want to argue that gambling money should not be used to build a stadium? Fine. I respect those who align themselves against gambling because they believe it functions as a poverty tax.

    There are many principled stands you can take against using public money for a new stadium. Taking a melodramatic stand against billionaires who own sports teams is not one of them.

    • Ruling out financial aid to an owner in this case leads to one result: The Vikings leaving Minnesota. History tells us that if a beloved team leaves a major market, it will be replaced at triple or more the cost or more of retaining the original team.

    Never again will the state of Minnesota receive a contribution of $427 million to build a billion-dollar stadium. The price of stadiums will rise, and acquiring a new team will require either a transfer fee or an expansion fee along with the price of a new stadium.

    Instead of being asked to come up with a few hundred million dollars to protect a state as.set, Minnesota would be asked to come up with billions. And it would. Urdahl should be asked to pay the difference.

    • Urdahl and those like him perhaps do not grasp that the Los Angeles Dodgers just sold for $2 billion. An NFL team in Los Angeles would be worth billions now and more billions in the future. Vikings owner Zygi Wilf might now regard moving the team as a forgone conclusion rather than a last resort.

    • This is not a partisan issue, and neither party is covering itself in glory, but Urdahl should recognize that he has marked himself as a Republican who is trying to kill a jobs and economic stimulus project.

    Forget whether the Twins are winning or losing in any given year: Target Field is a remarkable success story that has invigorated downtown Minneapolis and the North Loop while costing taxpayers less than what I just remembered I keep in my change receptacle in my car armrest.

    A new Vikings stadium on the south side of downtown would do the same for that portion of our city.

    Don’t compare it to the Metrodome, which was built on the cheap and was never an attraction for any reason other than the teams it contained. A new Vikings stadium would, like Target Field, become a destination, another bragging point for Minnesota residents and job recruiters.

    I can respectfully disagree with politicians who take consistent, principled, stands against stadiums. Those like Urdahl who shamelessly pander to the simple-minded people should not be taken seriously.

    Next time you ask a question about the stadium, Mr. Urdahl, please get help from someone with a better grasp of stadium politics, like, oh, a Kardashian.

  18. By vikesfan12 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    hognuts- We the fans have to do alot ourselves! Get on facebook and rally the troops!!!

  19. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Minnesota Viking fans 9 politicians voted NO to the Vikings and NO to 7,500 middle class jobs …

    HERES THE LIST OF PEOPLE TO CALL AND VOTE OUT

    1- Marion Greene DFL … 651-296-0171
    2- Frank Hornstein DFL … 651-296-9281
    3- Bev Scalze DFL … 651-296-7153
    4- Steve Simon DFL … 651-296-9889
    5- Ryan Winkler DFL … 651-296-7026
    6- Joyce Peppin R … 651-296-7806
    7- Rich Murray R … 651-296-8216 or 877-377-9441
    8- David H-a-n-c-o-c-k R … 651-296-4265 or 800-920-5867
    9- Duane Quam R … 651-296-9236 or 800-387-6453

  20. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Rep. Dean Urdahl, Republican-Grove City

    571 State Office Building
    100 Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.
    Saint Paul, Minnesota 55155
    651-296-4344 or 800-920-5861

    http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/members/members.asp?id=10792

  21. By vikesfan12 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Why doesnt it matter that the majority of Minnesotans want the Vikings to stay?

  22. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    For Spielman to pass on Kalil in the draft…

    Would be as stupid as the Mn politicians turning down the deal Zygi is willing to give the state to keep the Vikings here in Mn…By offering the 3rd largest amount of money ever offered by an owner to help build a stadium…And put Mn workers back to work…

    Well the Mn politicians were that stupid !!!

    Is Spielman going to be known as the next Matt Millen ??…

    Matt Kalil is the only choice to protect Ponder’s future !!!…And open up the running and p a s s ing games…

    And Mn politicians…”If you don’t know a good deal when presented one…Then get the h3ll out of politics” !!!

  23. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn not the first staffer answering the phone. wonder why? lol

  24. By T.HARRIS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I Think the Vikings will make the playoffs this year if we can start off 2-0.

  25. By vikesfan12 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    THE “NASTY NINE” WILL NOT BE POLITICIANS FOR LONG!!! VOTE THEM OUT!!!!!!!!

  26. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Will we even be able to vote them out before the Vikings leave town?

  27. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    During this economic recession the country is in…Construction in my small city is at a complete stand still…In a city of around 40,000 people…New homes being built are just non existent…This trend is not expected to end anywhere in the near future…

    Mn is paying 7,500 construction workers unemployment checks in the MPLS area that could be working and paying taxes…

    Are the projections of the Mn politicians putting those 7,500 people back to work this summer any better than last summer ??…

    Maybe we better have 2 separate groups getting together as one at the metro dome and march down to the capitol building…Viking fans and construction workers looking for work !!!….

  28. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Harry Hiestand, former Offensive Line Coach at Illinois, Chicago Bears, Tennesee Titans, and currently the Notre Dame had this to say about O Line play:

    “The fundamentals of line play are critical no matter what type of offensive system you are in. Blocking people is about leverage. Blocking people is about getting your helmet where it belongs and getting your pads below someone else’s pads and knocking them off the ball.

    Being fundamentally sound fits any system. We are going to work on being fundamentally sound. We are going to work on blocking people for the duration of the play.

    “Notre Dame’s system is an exciting style of football. It is wide open, but also one where he likes to run the football and be a team where you have to defend both the run and pa s s across the whole field.

    The key in football, and it will never change, is blocking and tackling. When you are a good tackling team, you have a good defense, and when you are a good blocking team, you will have a good offense.”

  29. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    The Vikings need good blockers and good tacklers.

    That is what we should concentrate on in the draft.

  30. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Minn. Viking fans 9 politicians voted NO to the Vikings and NO to 7,500 middle class jobs …

    HERES THE LIST OF PEOPLE TO CALL AND VOTE OUT

    1- Marion Greene DFL … 651-296-0171
    2- Frank Hornstein DFL … 651-296-9281
    3- Bev Scalze DFL … 651-296-7153
    4- Steve Simon DFL … 651-296-9889
    5- Ryan Winkler DFL … 651-296-7026
    6- Joyce Peppin R … 651-296-7806
    7- Rich Murray R … 651-296-8216 or 877-377-9441
    8- David H-a-n-c-o-c-k R … 651-296-4265 or 800-920-5867
    9- Duane Quam R … 651-296-9236 or 800-387-6453

  31. By PurplHaze on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Once again …

    I can’t imagine those politicians would let such a Minnesota icon as the Vikings slip away. I’ve loved this team for 40+ years. Can’t imagine MN without them. Nor do I want to!

    KEEP THE MINNESOTA VIKINGS IN MINNESOTA!!!

  32. By ozzinator on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I’m still amazed at all the Democrooks on that list, not, when all this time Rock was trying to sell me that the repubs were the obstructionists.

  33. By mad1dem on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    read this post on nfl .com

    Officially starting a protest in favor of the stadium bill. If you believe the state of MN needs the Minnesota Vikings and needs this bill to pass please come and show your support at Mall Of America Field (Metrodome) on April 26th (the night of the draft party) and help protest the unfair legislation leaders opposing the stadium bill. There is only 2 weeks left in this session, so now is the time to act. WE WILL NOT LOSE OUR BELOVED MINNESOTA VIKINGS OVER 9 BAD POLITICIANS!!!! Please share this post and please help us be heard on April 26th at the Metrodome. This time we WONT be ignored.

  34. By vikesfan12 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    mad1dem- get that on facebook!

  35. By Thevikes07 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Moving to Minnesota was a huge waste for my family.. We were a huge fan coming from Seattle, Washington. Now, that vikings is leaving.. i just don’t know what to do anymore.

  36. By Sean on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Anyone else notice almost no cold weather games outside 1 GB game and 1 CHI game? All of our games are in domes, nice weather or we play outside teams in the beginning of the year when weather is nicer

    A favorable schedule I think all around, let us build steam before facing most of division late in the season (or tank and get ready for another early pick)

  37. By vikesfan12 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Minnesotans demand a revote!!!!!

  38. By iaVIKE on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    vikes07 – I just moved to MN this last fall, and im with ya, if the Vikes leave right after i get here then i will pack my sh1t and go. To be honest where im at people either don’t know about what’s going on with the stadium issue, or really just don’t care. A lot of stupid people sayin things like “why should my taxes go up to build a stadium for a 3-13 team?” They don’t realize how much this franchise brings and gives back to this state. Whata joke

  39. By vikesfan12 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Minnesota Vikings last game is at the Dome against the cheese heads. We’ll kick there ass one last time!!!

  40. By vikesfan12 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    SAD VERY SAD!!!

  41. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    First off, will the NFL even let the Vikings leave if they see were are making small baby steps towards getting a stadium? I’m pretty sure they can’t go without the NFL’s approval first. Hopefully they think we will eventually get a deal done.

  42. By Carl K on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Put it on the ballot… let the public Vote!

    Why are the Vikings afraid to put the stadium issue in the hands of the people?

  43. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Its time fans !!…Its time to step away from your computers…Time to get up from your sofa watching TV…Stand up go to your windows wherever you are open those windows wide and yell out…

    “Viking fans are mad as H3LL !!!…And were not going to take it ANYMORE” !!!

    Zygi…Start making deep purple T shirts with gold bold letters saying…

    “We are mad as h3ll”…on the front…

    “and we are not going to take it anymore”…on the back of the shirt…

    Make those T shirts up Zygi…And sell them for the cost of making them…
    At the draft party coming up…

    Don’t forget the magnet cut outs naming the no voting politiicans and numbers to call we can put on the fridge at home…

    Polititcians hope they can run everything around them…
    Knowing voters will forget tomorrow…What happened yesterday…

    Print us out those pocket magnet reminders for us come election day Zygi…
    Viking fans and union construction workers will be there for you this November…

  44. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Here’s a theme song for you OTK:

  45. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Just march the capitol with the group all singing that song.

  46. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Sound familiar?

  47. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    It’s almost as if OTK copied his words directly from that skit…

  48. By Rogerthevikefan on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    According to reports the Vikings FO is not totally sold on Kalil. So if they do trade down I see them taking LT Riley Reiff. They like thier guys from Iowa.

  49. By Rogerthevikefan on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    The reason the dirtbag politicans didn’t vote in favor of the stadium is because they want payoffs. Politicans only care about getting paid the couldn’t care less about the people they are supposed to represent.

  50. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Know your in the spirit of things Parody !!!

    Get Twisted sister for the draft party…Set up a table in the center of the field full of poiliticains with microphones in front of them…

    Have it all start with a poilitician yelling into the microphone saying …NO !!!

    Have Twisted sister sing that song at them wearing tattered and torn Viking jerseys outfits !!!…

    If Zygi could get media coverage on that event….ESPN would play it for weeks !!!

  51. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    How do you convince the politicians to come to the draft party? I think they’re at least smart enough to know that such an event is going to filled with people who would love to try kicking filed goals with their heads…

  52. By Rogerthevikefan on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Why is creating jobs a bad thing? Why is supporting a large company that help out with charities something the government dislikes? Why is building a new feild for a team that won’t leave more important than helping out a team thats been around since the 60s and likely move without a new home?

  53. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    copy and paste this everywhere

    Keep The Vikings In Minnesota! Sign the petition, please!

    http://www.thepetitionsite.com/957/235/307/keep-vikings-in-minnesota/

  54. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Have to admit Parody…I had that Network scene in mind…

    But more than just the wording…It was the passion of the scene that came into my mind…

    Viking fans are getting angry…We are getting mad…

    Keep messing with the Vikings bull…

    Sooner or later you will deal with the Viking horn !!!

    That day has come….

  55. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @Hognuts,

    You make a good point in that we are taking baby steps towards “THAT GOLDEN DOME STADIUM.”

    Some have mentioned that the Vikings are an Icon in the state. That’s true, and things are not the same as they were when the Lakers left in the 1950s. Mpls then, was really a small city, and the Lakers hadn’t been there as long as the Vikings.

    That is what the MN Lawmakers are counting on as well. Everybody wants the stadium, but some are unwilling to pay for it.

  56. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Parody…Not only would that fire up your fan base…

    If the media got a hold of that…Or say in a Vikings commercial looking for fan support…All over Minnesota and surrounding area…People might be a little more interested on what these foolish Mn politicians in this state are doing ??…

    If ESPN played the clip for awhile…It would be seen all over…

    The Vikings have done nothing but be respectful to the politicians in this state..

    What has that done for them the past 10 years ??…

    Why not expose these politicians for who they are…Seeing as the Vikings look like they will have to move to another state anyway after the 2012 season…

    Its time to shake up the apple cart…And let the worms fall as they may…

  57. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I’m not willing to pay for new bridges, libraries, convention centers and a bunch of other things that I’ll never use, but the government seems completely fine approving these big projects. Why is it when there is an option to build something that will actually give the state a positive return on its investment, they decide to shoot it down?

  58. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Seems like Mike Wobschall could care less about the stadium issue.

  59. By charliewest40 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    sandiamond, thought you might wanna see this article about Martelle Martins play. He is a hard hitter its just too bad his stock has fallen. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1147875-non-playoff-teams-draft-strategies#/articles/1148388-the-5-hardest-hitters-in-the-2012-nfl-draft/page/6

  60. By Rogerthevikefan on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @Parody Because they hide things in the wording that gives them some sort of payoff.

  61. By Rogerthevikefan on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Recall all who oppose the Vikings stadium. Run the dirtbags out of the state. Form Angry mobs.

  62. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Mike Wobschall has to ask his bosses if he can talk about that issue and the issue of will the NFL keep subsidizing the Vikings. Is it not sickening to know that the Vikings have to get money from the Packers to be able to play football?

  63. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    It just really bugs me…If you watched the session that turned down the Vikings..The panel member Winkler asked Bagley…

    “We just want to know the Vikings projections..How much is the worth of the team going to increase if we build the stadium” ???…

    That is not what he should be worried about…Zygi isn’t doing this stadium project to lose money…Did Bagley confront Winkler asking the projected windfall the state will make after hosting a super bowl shortly after the stadium being built ???…

    The plan is for both parties to make this investment…And to both make money from that investment…And this plan they have now is more than fair for both parties involved…A plan I believe that favors the state more than the Vikings already…

    So why is the state demanding more ???…

    People need to get back to work…Costs will only go up…

  64. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    By DRS on Apr 17, 2012 | Reply

    This is a wee bit old but is troublesome to me.

    Jerry Jones offers his two cents on Vikings stadium situation
    By Sean Jensen on September 4, 2009 6:47 PM | 2 Comments | No TrackBacks
    Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones offered his perspective on the Vikings need for a new stadium.

    “Right now, we are subsidizing this market,” Jones said of NFL owners. “It’s unthinkable to think that you’ve got the market you got here – 3 ½ million people – and have teams like Kansas City and Green Bay subsidizing the market. That will stop.

    “That’s going to stop. That’s on its way out.”

    Jones was referring to revenue sharing, which may end after the current Collective Bargaining Agreement expires next year.

    Jones challenged leaders in Minnesota to step up and help owners Zygi and Mark Wilf get a new stadium to replace the Metrodome.

    “It’s going to take leadership,” Jones said. “It can’t happen unless you’ve got real public leaders. They really do have to accept and recognize or educate their constituents on just how important it is to the growth of Minnesota.”

    While owners vote on Super Bowl sites by secret ballot, Jones said he would vote for one in the Twin Cities… if they build a new stadium.

    “Yes, I’d want them to have a Super Bowl here, with a new stadium,” he said. “I think it would be something that would be very realistic.”

    http://blogs.twincities.com/Vikings/2009/09/jerry-jones-offers-his-two-cen.html

  65. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    This is our year. The roster is loaded with talent.

  66. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings stadium: In bipartisan vote, key House committee shoots down proposal
    By Doug Belden
    Posted: 04/16/2012 12:01:00 AM CDT

    Vikings vice president Lester Bagley called the outcome “extremely disappointing” and said “it’s a mistake” for people to assume the Vikings and the NFL will continue operating under the status quo.

    He said that isn’t a threat that the team will leave, but “Minnesota’s in control of their destiny.

    “We’ve done everything we’ve been asked,” Bagley said. The question for the state is: “What else would you expect us to do?”

    Bagley said the team will continue to push the proposal in the remaining two weeks of the session.

    http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_20408099/vikings-stadium-more-than-dozen-amendments-propose-bill?source=rss

  67. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Vice president Lester Bagley was talking about what Jerry Jones was talking about in my previous postings about the NFL subsidizing the Vikings!!! Get very worried if I were you all.

  68. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Alright DRS- from 1-10 what are the chances that we’re leaving.

  69. By PurplHaze on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    KEEP THE MINNESOTA VIKINGS IN MINNESOTA!!!

    IT’S THE RIGHT THING TO DO!!!

  70. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    It’s a mistake for people to assume the Vikings and the NFL will continue operating under the status quo. That means no more subsidizing of the Vikings. There for no money to pay the players such as cook, there for no money to stay in Minnesota, there for no Minnesota Vikings in 2013.

  71. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    8.5 IMO

  72. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Stadium setback puts Vikings football in perspective
    17 April, 2012 // Vikings // Tags : Last night’s stadium news kind of minimizes the team’s NFL draft evaluations and free agency signings, doesn’t it? At least for a day.

    After all, it’s got to be tougher for Vikings fans to follow their team when the threat of losing the franchise that’s made a home in Minnesota for 51 years seems more real than ever.

    http://blogs.twincities.com/vikings/2012/04/17/stadium-setback-puts-vikings-football-in-perspective/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+twincities%2FNWau+%28Vikings+Now%29

  73. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    From 1-10 what are the chances they move to New Mexico?

  74. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Minnesota Vikings Stadium Deal Dead: How Long Will the Team Remain in Minnesota?By Joshua Moeschl(Correspondent) on April 18, 2012

    The Vikings ownership, led by businessman Zygi Wilf, is getting fed up. Wilf is an avid football fan, and by all accounts has no interest in relocating the team, but if he cannot get a new stadium, he will have to go.

    Los Angeles is the place most people think the Vikings would go. The city is a huge market and has been missing the NFL for a while.

    Minnesotans need to start thinking about the possibility of losing the Vikings if they can’t get a new stadium deal done. The state dragged its feet over the North Stars leaving, and was devastated when the franchise actually left. Maybe they didn’t think it could happen.

    It could. It did. It might happen again.

    If the Vikings do leave, the NFL wouldn’t think of giving Minnesota an expansion franchise for at least five years, and even if they did, Minnesota would still need a new stadium.

    It is in Minnesota’s best interest to get a deal done, and soon. Zygi Wilf is a patient man, clearly, but at some point his hand will be forced. Let’s hope we don’t have to take it that far.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1150472-minnesota-vikings-stadium-deal-dead-how-long-will-the-team-remain-in-minnesota

  75. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    0.5 sadly now El Paso TX maybe a 7.0

  76. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    No subsidizing by the NFL without a new stadium, so sad.

  77. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    .0001 chance

  78. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    From 1-10 what are the chances we trade Jared Allen?

  79. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    A Vikings stadium “Plan B” moves forward
    Posted by: Mike Kaszuba under Funding, Minnesota governor, Gov. Mark Dayton, Minnesota legislature, State budgets Updated: April 18, 2012 – 2:36 PM
    .

    There may not be an agreement this spring to build a new Minnesota Vikings stadium, but legislators may be preparing a Plan B.

    A proposal to authorize electronic bingo and pull tabs, along with sports-themed tip boards, will go before the House Taxes Committee on Thursday night amid speculation that the money could be put into a reserve fund to begin preliminary design work on a stadium.

    With the plan to build the nearly $1 billion Vikings stadium stalled, the alternative plan would take a minimalist approach to the stadium dilemma – creating a funding source and setting it aside for a future stadium.

    The idea was first discussed publicly two weeks ago by Rep. Joe Atkins, DFL-Inver Grove Heights, and Rep. John Kriesel, R-Cottage Grove, who proposed going ahead with the charitable gaming expansion while the actual stadium puzzle was still being debated.

    “Is it your understanding that your bill will become a Plan B?” Atkins asked Kriesel at a House panel hearing.

    “If there’s issues with the stadium bill, whatever those are, we still could pass tax relief for the charities and also a funding source for the stadium,” replied Kriesel.

    Atkins added “there very well could be [a provision] that would set aside money that is gathered” and use it “towards a fund for either pre-design or design of the stadium.” The money, Atkins added, would be used “not necessarily to construct the stadium but at least to keep the process moving forward.”

    Replied Kriesel: “That’s a great idea.”

    Gov. Mark Dayton has proposed authorizing electronic bingo and pull tabs in Minnesota’s bars and restaurants as a way to fund the state’s $398 million contribution to the Vikings stadium, which would be built at the Metrodome in downtown Minneapolis.

    With some legislators expressing doubts over the revenue estimates from the expanded charitable gambling, said Atkins, the alternative plan would allow lawmakers to first see what the new gambling revenue actually was.

    “It’s another way to bring and build forward that has something to do with a stadium,” Atkins said Wednesday of Kriesel’s proposed legislation.

    But Rep. Michael Nelson, DFL-Brooklyn Park, a strong Vikings stadium supporter, was not as impressed. “I don’t think it moves us closer to getting a stadium,” he said Wednesday. “The pre-design and design work? That just puts if off for another Legislature” to consider.

    http://www.startribune.com/politics/blogs/147974525.html

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    New Hope I do not think so, two many legal issue on the tip boards.

  80. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    2

  81. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    charliewest thanxs for the article! made my day

    5 hardest hitting players in the 2012 NFL draft

    #1 Vontaze Burfict ILB
    #2 Ronnell Lewis OLB
    #3 Dant’a Hightower ILB
    #4 Dre Kirkpatrick CB/S
    #5 Markell Martin S

  82. By Mike B. on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    The NFL and Vikings will wait as long as there is progress to build a new Stadium. I think there is enough positive movement during this session that the NFL will hold off for the next legislative year. It would be better to have it all done with this session, but that may not happen. The NFL doesn’t want to lose this market. The new stadium will make the team profitible again. The Vikings will stay in MInneasota. I am confident in this. We just need to keep pushing for positive movement.

  83. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings stadium: Dayton would consider special session after elections
    By Doug Belden
    Posted: 04/18/2012 12:01:00 AM CDT
    April 18, 2012 7:13 PM GMTUpdated: 04/18/2012 02:13:33 PM CDT

    Gov. Mark Dayton said if a Vikings stadium bill isn’t passed this session he would consider a special session after the fall elections, but he made no promises.

    “It depends on the outcome of the election, the makeup of the Legislature” that will take office in 2013, he said. “We’ll have to see.

    http://www.twincities.com/allheadlines/ci_20425287/vikings-stadium-dayton-would-consider-special-session-after

  84. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B. read this,

    Vikings stadium: In bipartisan vote, key House committee shoots down proposal
    By Doug Belden
    Posted: 04/16/2012 12:01:00 AM CDT

    Vikings vice president Lester Bagley called the outcome “extremely disappointing” and said “it’s a mistake” for people to assume the Vikings and the NFL will continue operating under the status quo.

    He said that isn’t a threat that the team will leave, but “Minnesota’s in control of their destiny.

    “We’ve done everything we’ve been asked,” Bagley said. The question for the state is: “What else would you expect us to do?”

    Bagley said the team will continue to push the proposal in the remaining two weeks of the session.

    http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_20408099/vikings-stadium-more-than-dozen-amendments-propose-bill?source=rss

  85. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Ronnell “The Hammer” Lewis

  86. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I would be very worried if I were you.

  87. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    The Vikings have been waiting for 10 years, every year they are told wait one more year, well they are fed up with the wait and seers, they will move, they have to move, there will be no more subsidies!

  88. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    The wait and seers will get you every time.

    What movie is that from?

  89. By Carl K on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    sandi – and charlie
    I am a big fan of Markelle Martin. You gotta lov his attitude!

    “I play this game the way it’s meant to be played”, as Markell describes his style of play, “I make receivers and running backs pay for c o m i n g into my zone”.

    Skilled and experienced at playing both the Free and Strong Safety positions, Martin considers himself a “field safety, rolling on top, boundary-to-boundary and all over the field.

    Most of the reports I have found on Markelle, say things like this:
    Big hitter, solid in run support, can play the 8th man in the box, strong student, physical and atheltic, experienced against top quality p a s s-ing attacks, and can cover a lot of ground in the deep part of the field.

    I think he is a strong fit for a cover 2 safety. I would take him at the top of round 4 in a heart beat.

  90. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

  91. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I read that if every taxpayer in Minnesota would agree to a one time $7.00 contribution that would cover the states portion of a new stadium. How hard would it be to pay a one time $7.00 fee? I really dont believe it would break anyone….

  92. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @the DRS,

    I think that the politicians want the Vikings to be scared so that they can get the best possible deal, FOR THEM!!!

  93. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I would be willing to send $10.00 to Minesota if it got the Vikings a new home.

  94. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Frederick Jones, that could be but is it worth the risk.

  95. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

  96. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Something will get done, DRS. The relocation is not a quick process. LA doesn’t even have a stadium right now. What is El Paso’s stadium? UTEP’s stadium I’m guessing. The Vikings have nowhere to go at the moment. We still have time to get a stadium done.

  97. By charliewest40 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Carl, Markelle Martin may not be there in the 4th. I can recall some mocks having him at the end of the 2nd maybe 3 weeks ago. Unfortunately for him his stock has fallen with the inability to work out, but I think he will go in the 3rd round. There is hunger for the few safeties out there.

    D@mn lets get this stadium deal done already !!!!!!

  98. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    hognuts, they said that about the North Stars as well, are you willing to risk it once more?

  99. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @the DRS,

    That piece on Jones was interesting. But why shouldn’t he support the Vikings? It’s just good politics.

    I really think that the Vikings will get their stadium. The Mpls-St. Paul Metro Area is quite large now, and growing. Some of the growth is probably due to the sports teams.

    I know you are going to say this is “pie in the sky,” thinking. Perhaps it is, but ultimately it’s money that matters.

  100. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

  101. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Dallas had a place for the (North) Stars. They played in it since 2001.

  102. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @the DRS,

    Do you mean that the politicians “just trying to get the best deal” is dangerous thinking on my part?

  103. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Frederick Jones I remember people saying that about the North stars, a team I loved, and they left for Dallas because of the same foot dragging by Minnesota, are you willing to risk it?

  104. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @the DRS, Hognuts,

    Do you realize that the Vikings of Scandinavia original plan was to wipe out all the C h r i s t i a n s in Great Britain?

  105. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    If Freddie Jones isn’t ranting about them leaving, then I’m not scared. Once we start seeing the same posts over and over, then I’ll panic.

  106. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @the DRS,

    When did the North Stars leave?

    The Raiders spent many years in Oakland, left for a few years, now they are back in Oakland.

    I want to believe that Vikings fans want them to stay here. That’s what we have to count on. Politicians are supposed to represent the people. If they don’t, they do not get re-elected!!!

    We have lost a lot of teams in MN. That should be the battle cry!!!

  107. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @Hognuts,

    Now that is NUTS!!! lol

  108. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Frederick Jones, No, the dangerous thought is that there will be a stadium sometime soon with the wait and seers politicians they now have in Minnesota. The thought that the Vikings will be willing to wait for some undetermined amount of time to get the stadium deal done, It has been 10 years and I do believe it when the Vikings say this,

    Vikings stadium: In bipartisan vote, key House committee shoots down proposal
    By Doug Belden
    Posted: 04/16/2012 12:01:00 AM CDT

    Vikings vice president Lester Bagley called the outcome “extremely disappointing” and said “it’s a mistake” for people to assume the Vikings and the NFL will continue operating under the status quo.

    He said that isn’t a threat that the team will leave, but “Minnesota’s in control of their destiny.

    “We’ve done everything we’ve been asked,” Bagley said. The question for the state is: “What else would you expect us to do?”

    Bagley said the team will continue to push the proposal in the remaining two weeks of the session.

    http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_20408099/vikings-stadium-more-than-dozen-amendments-propose-bill?source=rss

  109. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @Hognuts, DRS,

    I’m just trying to take the positive slant. Like PA, I found the stadium issue boring, and didn’t follow it much.

    It’s taken on new life now.

  110. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Frederick Jones,

    We have lost a lot of teams in MN. That should be the battle cry!!!

    100% with you on that.

  111. By Carl K on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    charlie – he did run a sub 4.6 at his proday… so I agree his stock may be on the rise, and I also read that Cinny like him in round 3.

    If we don’t have a safety by pick # 66.. Markelle might be looking pretty good to me at the top of round 3.

  112. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @the DRS,

    That is no idle threat. Ten years is way too long. I checked out yearbooks from the library for the years 2004 and 2007. Both have stadium plans outlined in them!!!

    It’s crazy. Why wouldn’t they leave?

  113. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Frederick Jones, I think people have been putting a positive slant on this issue for too long, which is why the Vikings have not gotten their new stadium.

  114. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Perhaps this entire site should be Stadium issues only until it gets done.

  115. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    What are we going to do about the draft anyway. Spielman has heard all he wants to by now anyway!

  116. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Frederick Jones that is my point, I hope the Vikings fans can voice themselves in the next few weeks and take hold on them politicians by the scruff of the next and put some insight in to them.

  117. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Frederick Jones, that would not be necessary but if Mike W. would pay a little more attention to this issue and let the fans know the truth about the facts on the subsidizing of the Vikings by the other teams.

  118. By charliewest40 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Fred, sorry I dont wanna talk about the stadium…if thats ok with you

  119. By Carl K on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Markelle is a versatile and talented safety… the question is how bad is his right knee injury? He is in a very similar postion (injury wise and draft stock wise) as Chase Minnifield.

    Both of these players had strong 2nd round grades before the knee issues came up. Now that they are both beginning to work out and run some.. it will be fun to keep an eye on these guy at draft time to see if they will rise back up or fall.

  120. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @charliewest,

    You were always one of my favorite players on the Vikings back in the late 60s and 70s. I’m not going to make you do anything. lol

    I never understood why they used you mostly as a kick/punt returner and rarely as a defensive back. Why did they do that?

  121. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Besides all this continuing talk about what player we should get is boring to me, they will get who they want with or without our input. It looks like to me that Spielman and the Vikings are going to pass up on any good players this year so that they can move the team in 2013.

  122. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    That of course is just my opinion.

  123. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Gahh Dam, Aromoshadus hands are only 8in? No wonder that clown cant catch.

  124. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @DRS,

    That thought had occurred to me as well. But I also think the Vikings expect to have to pay Kalil or any #3 pick BIG money.

  125. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

  126. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @DRS,

    When Spielman was given the GM position and made his pres s er
    he almost cried.

    Do you think that was about his wife and family? Or was it for another reason?
    Perhaps he realized how many mistakes he made?

  127. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    DRS do you watch football games? take it to the next level and see who is behind the jerseys!!

  128. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Frederick Jones, maybe that is why Spielman wants to trade down as to not pay the high price that comes with a #3 pick, or was he told to trade down?

    Well I have to go and get my daughter so have fun everyone.

  129. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Not only give referees a full time job…Offer retirement benefits also…Benefits that would increase…Depending on the percentage of correct calls that referee made during his entire career…The higher percentage of correct calls during his career as referee…The more he earns in retirement…

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1150057-a-how-to-guide-to-fixing-nfl-officiating

  130. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    sandiamond, yes I have watched the Vikings, starting in 1968 and looked into who the players are every year, do you my man? Have fun my friend.

  131. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @DRS,

    Yeah…This stadium thing is still a WAITING game like it was 10 years ago.

    When will it be too late???

  132. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

  133. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    DRS you are probably right about Spielman but only with free agents ( told not to spend $$ ) CBA wiped out big contracts for top ten draftees

  134. By DRS on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Who knows. Later.

  135. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Mel Kiper’s jr’s new draft: vikings

    #1 Kalil
    #2 Smith
    #3 McNutt

  136. By Derrick.G on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    PIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  137. By charliewest40 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Looks like Smith is there for the taking if we want him

  138. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

  139. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    In an interview with Scout.com, Jenkins said, “I wasn’t smoking marijuana at North Alabama. If anybody wants to know, they can give my coaches a call. I wasn’t partying. They’ve been saying a lot of things about me that aren’t true without getting my side of the story. It’s been a humbling experience.”

    Jenkins continued: “You’ve got to be a man, you’ve got to be honest and straightforward. I’ve matured. My past is my past. People can judge me for how far I’ve come. I want to know why all of a sudden this is out there about me. Why didn’t it come out after the Combine when I was straightforward with the scouts? The timing is very interesting to me.”

  140. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Carl if you look around at tape you can see why A.Allen was brought in by the Vikings. Martin is more inconsistent /injury q/ coverage skills only sub-par

  141. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

  142. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    4-way choice @ 35 how i see it now
    harrison smith
    alshon jeffery
    devon still
    janoris jenkins (with slippage)

  143. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Play this Sh-t as they come out of the Tunnel!

  144. By tdurfeightyeight on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    What Up Vikings fans and wannabes!
    Have you ever heard the saying”history repeating itself.” First of all the Lakers left in 61′ and one big differance from the Mpls. Lakers and the Vikings???
    The Lakers had 5 N.B.A. Championships.Then we lost the stars…Minnesota is known for hockey, nation wide…how humiliating.
    Sadly their is a stadium in waiting…a beautiful facility in L.A. I live in Cali 2hrs from downtown L.A. and i would rather see them in my home state…but i don’t think it’s going to happen

  145. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Uh…Spencer,

    Whut yu takin’ ’bout?

  146. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    If Kiper is right the lions are loading the D and the bears snag Quick

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/40847/mel-kiper-mock-three-rounds

  147. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    tdurf,

    Is your home state California?

  148. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer that’s the BURFICT theme song

  149. By tdurfeightyeight on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @DRS i agree with you that this stadium issue articles,though boring as all get out,does serve somewhat of a purpose

  150. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Lol sandiamond, I know. And speaking of Burfict….you still sold on him?

  151. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I wrote Jim Souhan from the Star Tribune asking him to make sure the public knows about the nasty 9 (thanx for whoever it was to say that first, hope its ok i stole it)

    Jim Souhan is the guy that wrote the article Rocksalt posted and his email is …

    jsouhan@startribune.com

    its time to be heard people one voice means nothing pas these messages around we need hundreds of voices

  152. By tdurfeightyeight on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @ DRS … no brother i was born as raised in Duluth,I know i know that explains alot! I know live in Cali do to my sons disabilities.

  153. By tdurfeightyeight on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    im sorry…born and raised in Duluth

  154. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    no other player in the world that I would rather see wearing purple&gold than Vontaze Burfict!!!!!!!!

  155. By tdurfeightyeight on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Kiper is an idiot…these draft diks only propose what they think they should draft…rather than what the team will do because of the personality of the owners,g.m.’s and coaches…

  156. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Vontaze Burfict would look beautiful in purple, but I feel as though hes a NUT. Too many stupid penalties for my liking.

  157. By charliewest40 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Fred,
    I thought Charlie West was the starting strong safety for a couple of those years but I couldnt find the answer.

    What I do remember is having a blast pretending to be him in the vacant lot and returning alot of punts for TDs……whooohoooo

  158. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    The risk has been taken off now with Burfict (rd5-6) He is an absolute bulldozer on special teams. Isn’t that what teams draft that high for anyway?

    No more play time in the NFL he has to work up from the bottom now and listen to the Vikings’ coaches for a chance to play linebacker

    We need depth at linebacker…. draft BURFICT!! and let Singletary teach him

  159. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Chris Mortenson from ESPN will talk about the stadium issue on ESPN2 shortly on NFL Live. He knows what he’s talking about, so I’m curious to see what he says.

  160. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    *Mortensen

  161. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    spencer somebody made up those pot lies about Jenkins! back on radar for the Vikings

  162. By aaron rodgers on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    So how did that “first all-gay team in nfl” experiment work out for you last year.

    I mean, favre was creepy, but he wanted p u s s y

  163. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Aaron Rodgers doesn’t have a girlfriend or a wife.

  164. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I know sand, I already posted it earlier haha.

  165. By iaVIKE on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I think you meant to send that to someone on one of your g a y dating sites pole smoker. We talked about this yesterday remember? this is vikings.com not packerfanslikeitintherear.com

  166. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    What are the haters gonna say now? Man, just more positive news coming from Chris Cook.

    He visited yet another elementary school and spoke to the students about the value of an education.

    In a private interview he said “All the legal stuff is behind me, I’m just ready to play football and put myself around the right people and get my mind focused on the right things, which is football and God and my family,”

    How can you not like this man?

    http://www2.wsls.com/sports/2012/apr/17/cook-visits-his-old-elementary-schools-seeking-cha-ar-1850092/

  167. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Hes making sincere changes in his life and I appreciate that. He really has changed guys.

  168. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Optimus Prime is preparing to shut down Megatron. I love it.

  169. By gato1919 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    i know the issue is way more important to those of you that still live at my home. I grew up in Minnesota and I try to make it home every year. My father was a season ticket holder at the Met and Metrodome all his life. It is safe to say I never missed a home game from 1972-1982. Zigmund Wilf-How dare you insult our intelligence by thinking we are going to pay for a new place for you to employ a bunch of loafers, idiots, and slackers. These are not My Minnesota Vikings. My Minnesota Vikings give 100%, were the best prepared, the most innovative, efficient team in the NFC. My Vikings were never scared of, nor outclassed by any team. Zigggy, take your New Jersey clan out of our state-make sure to bring Leslie Frazier with you. Show us some results and reap the rewards(Gee look at the Twins) If you want a new NFL stadium, you first have to field an NFL Team. Get the hint Ziggy? We need Bud Grant, and an owner who is one of US!

  170. By iaVIKE on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    New look, new man. He’ll shut em down this year

  171. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer – No offense, but that quick turn-around happens all the time to guys who just got out of – or finished paying for – big trouble. Often, they start to relax after being clean for a while and then return to their old ways.

    I’m not saying that it’s going to go down that way with Cook, but I’ll hold my reservations because there is still a very good chance of it.

  172. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @Parody

    But do they cut their dreads? That certainly means he’s TRANSFORMED into Optimus Prime.

  173. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    What has Cook ever been convicted of?

  174. By chrisbreezy on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    1st kalil OT, 2nd smith SS, 3rd mcnutt, martin WR, 4th rainey RB, 4th steed CB, 5th howard DT, 6th miller OG, 7th burris OLB, 7th burfict MLB

  175. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Georger Zimmerman is making sincere changes in his life and I appreciate that. He really has changed guys. He hasnt shot anyone for over a month.

  176. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    …….And speaking of the haters..

  177. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Gato – What do you think you’re going to accomplish? Do you think if we all act like that, it will get any positive results? You appear to be a fair weather fan. We don’t care for them. We cheer for our team, regardless of the results. Get on board or get out. No team will ever be able to rule the NFL indefinitely.

  178. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer – Just because he was able to dodge the law doesn’t mean that he’s a class act. It’ll take significantly more than a weekend or two of good deeds for us to believe that Cook has turned himself into a model citizen.

    Just give it time, and let his story develop. Eventually, he will be able to change our minds, but he has a large hill to climb.

  179. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    But yet the Viking Faithful just ADORE Randy Moss…

    http://football.about.com/od/nationalfootballleague/a/mossantics.htm

  180. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I never paid enough attention to the news of off-field issues when Moss was a Viking. The only issue that I heard of was when he pushed a cop with his car. One night of a stupid drunken mistake.

    Other than that, he was just a cõcky WR who acted stupid after he did something spectacular. That’s completely acceptable to me, I don’t know why so many people blew that way out of proportion. Yes, he was full of himself, but he at least performed well enough that it wasn’t just arrogance.

  181. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn- What do you think of this picture?

  182. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    That picture is horrible Spencer! Couldn’t you find a good cheerleader to put in the background?

    Oh, right…they’re Vikings cheerleaders…

  183. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.startribune.com/politics/statelocal/148007435.html

  184. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer Looks kind of like this picture from a different angle

  185. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    C’mon her face is blurry, you can’t judge her. Her body looks nice though.

  186. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Hoe about this one

    http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/10/22/1022-chris-cook-mugshot-bn.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.tmz.com/2011/10/22/chris-cook-arrested-minnesota-vikings/&h=300&w=550&sz=27&tbnid=qBxv_cEKbFlrsM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=165&zoom=1&docid=4k6PtJCiYhaeTM&sa=X&ei=tVqPT9rnMILW2gWn472dBQ&ved=0CEUQ9QEwAQ&dur=2088

  187. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Oops wrong one.

  188. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Well at least Cook was able to knock the ball down from Megatron. CEDRIC GRIFFIN IS HORRIFIC.1

  189. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    By Parody on Sep 25, 2011 | Reply

    Welcome to the NFL Chris Cook! He’s a keeper.
    ———————————————————————————————

    http://blog.vikings.com/2011/09/25/todays-inactives-13/

  190. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=mPg&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1366&bih=612&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnso&tbnid=Kb69B3PQB4_h5M:&imgrefurl=http://www.toledoblade.com/Pro/2011/09/25/Stafford-rallies-Lions-over-Vikings.html&docid=S82ydvnqncCckM&imgurl=http://www.toledoblade.com/image/2011/09/25/800x_b1_cCM_z_cT/Calvin-Johnson-Chris-Cook-Detroit-defeats-Minnesota.jpg&w=800&h=539&ei=llyPT5yCGeOi2wXcsryFBQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=795&sig=116162229222495471234&page=1&tbnh=136&tbnw=181&start=0&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:70&tx=91&ty=62

  191. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    After reviewing this play countless times, I believe that if Griffin didnt trip over his own foot, he would have got his hands on that ball.

  192. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer – I’m not attacking Cook. I want him to succeed, and learning about his domestic issue this year really hurt. I thought he was a great player back then, and I hope he can still prove to be that great player. I’m just holding my reservations because he needs to convince me that he can stay out of trouble in order to make that happen.

  193. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn- Whenever Cook understandably gave up that TD to Megatron, why was your first post “lol”??

  194. By Kman on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    God forbid but if the vikings do move you guys do realize that there would be a chance for mn to be granted an expansion team. Like how the NHL gave mn the wild after losing the gold stars. And like how Seattle will probably get an expansion team in the nba after losing the sonic to Oklahoma city a nice town with the highest suicide rates.

  195. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Honestly I tried to find a picture with Asher Allen breaking up a pa’ss … seems that none exist though

  196. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer … It seems everyone gets it but you and Larson Family. Hows it feel to be on that list ???

  197. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Kman – We don’t want an expansion team. The Wild and Timberwolves are pathetic excuses for professional sports teams. I’d cheer for the Lakers and Stars long before rooting for one of those teams. It would be much more severe with the NFL. I’m a Vikings fan, regardless of what state they play in. I just pray that they never move out of MN, because this is where they belong – just like the Lakers and Stars, but it’s too late for them now.

  198. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    LOL Shawn – I tried too, just to get proof that you can pull up a single picture to make anybody look like a superstar. I guess that’s not entirely true though.

  199. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn- do you secretly admire Our Hero?

  200. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Chris Cook has been given another chance. I hope as a Viking fan he becomes a professional and does well. You know why people defend Moss

    sigh cant believe Im getting sucked into this non sense again …

    We defend Moss because Moss showed up every Sunday and was always a factor even when he had 0 catches he was a factor … HE SHOWED UP and was great.

    We dont defend Cook because he’s done nothing …

  201. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I went to my first Timberwolves game ever back in February, and that was only because my dad received some free luxury suite tickets from his work. I wouldn’t have even gone hadn’t it been my first chance to sit in a luxury suite.

    The team was up by 10+ points multiple times, and winning until the last minute or two of the game. They had every chance to take the win but failed to do much of any scoring at the end of the game.

    The game would have been a nail-biter, right down to the final buzzer, where I would have been crushed by the loss. But because it was the Timberwolves, I couldn’t have cared less about the loss. It was a lot like watching an AFC game on Sunday evening, just because it’s all there is to do. Interesting to watch, but the end result has no effect on me.

    Any replacement for the Vikings would be just as bad.

  202. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I would not cheer for the LOS ANGELES Vikings. Never in a million years. Being from Minnesota, it means something to me. I hate the Lakers. I cheer for the Wolves and Wild, even though I hate basketball. If we do get an expansion team, if the Vikings move, I will cheer for them and not the Vikings. The Vikings aren’t going to leave, so this is all blasphemy anyways.

  203. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    And thats what I dont understand…

    “Hes does nothing”

    Oh well. Janoris Jenkins 2012.

  204. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Parody do you think KoN is Titus? If i find out then he has lost my respect for good……

  205. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Do I have your respect?

  206. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    He hasn’t done enough Spencer. He’s been on the active roster for 12-games in 2-years. He had a few flashes in the pan, but as a defender, he needs more than flashes in the pan to be considered close to a similar level as Moss. He needs to be there for every game, and he needs to be a significant force in every game.

    I was laughing at the Lions for their draft of Stafford because of his injuries in his first two years. Now, after his third year, he’s finally starting to earn his paycheck. Until then though, it appeared like they were just flushing money down the toilet, as we have been with Cook so far. Sad but true.

  207. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    hogs I never disagree with you man! easygoinguy

  208. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    By KoN on Apr 16, 2012 | Reply

    Who knows, Spencer, I could be Titus in disguise.

    Sandiamond – He could be, but he just doesn’t quite seem to have that Titus quality…

  209. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    The only major difference I could find in their writing is that KoN forgets to capitalize proper nouns every now and then, but that seems to be the type of mistake that Titus wouldn’t allow to happen.

  210. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Last 2 seasons …

    Chris Cook … 12 games … 8 starts

    Randy Moss … 16 games … 11 starts … AND HE WAS RETIRED LAST SEASON

  211. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Lol I love it, we all just dislike Cook because he misses games and has only shown potential, but for some reason we all love Ponder even though hes the same way- injury prone but has shown promise in the few games he played in.

    Maybe Freddy was right, some of you guys may be a tad bit racist. Now that I think of it look at some of the people Shawn hate: Loadholt, Berrian, McNabb, Asher Allen, Tyrell Johnson, Remi Adoyle, and Chris Cook. What do they all have in common? Theyre black!

  212. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @sandiamond

    Thank you. You’ve made my day!

  213. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I know Titus has very little knowledge of the draft players. Might go back and review some posts. He could have pulled a fast one on us but to think he would be carry on this long makes me sick

  214. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Well a majority of NFL players are black, so you have to factor that there are simply more black players to hate on. Not necessarily racist, just playing the odds.

  215. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer – Ponder’s not injury prone nearly so much as the offense is prone to allowing him to get injured. Cook lost respect because of his off field actions are keeping him off the field.

    Whereas it’s Ponder’s on-field actions that are making it tougher for him. I’d rather a player get de-activated for injury while trying to succeed, than a player get de-activated for stupidity while not even in uniform.

  216. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer – Why are you being selective with your list? Charlie Johnson definitely belongs on it. You just left him out because it defeats your racist attack. If I recall, Shawn has also expressed displeasure with Robison after we allowed Ray Edwards to leave, but you made sure to leave him off the list too…for some reason… 2010 Favre should have been part of that list as well…

    The fact is that Shawn, like most of us, start to dislike people who play poorly. On the other hand, for some reason you choose to attack players who play good and defend criminals who have yet to prove themselves: Hate on Jared Allen, Adrian Peterson, Ponder and Harvin, while defending Cook and others from other teams who play well every now and then…in between court appearances…

  217. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe Spencer is racist ? he doesnt like Ponder or Jared Allen.

  218. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Parody, I know that nobody is racist here. I was just messin with Shawn. But I was serious about the Ponder thing.

  219. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn hate: Loadholt, Berrian, McNabb, Asher Allen, Tyrell Johnson, Remi Adoyle, and Chris Cook. What do they all have in common? Theyre black!

    Spencer … you forgot they all suhk.

  220. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    No Shawn – Spencer’s something worse than that, I don’t think there’s a name for it though. He hates on people who are legally clean and successful, which is why he attacks Peterson too. He only seems to like the players who push the limits of the law, or are just plain dícks.

    Since there isn’t a name for this type of “-cist”, I think we should make one now…how does genitalcist sound to everyone?

  221. By NovaScotiaVike on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Wobschall will have his house in L.A., his backyard pool dug, and his membership in at least two country clubs before he prints a word about the Vikings leaving.

  222. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Nova – You mean that there are houses in LA that still don’t have pools in their backyard?

  223. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I have never hated on Toby, Greenway, Rudolph, Percy, or Greenway. Those people qualify as legally “clean and successful” in my book.

  224. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    LOL Parody I think its called … young and dumb. When I was younger I defended thugs …. I really do think 25 is the age I actually grew up. I think 25 is a milestone that just adds maturity and you dont even realize it

  225. By NovaScotiaVike on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Parody…it doesn’t matter, one of these years L.A. will be Arizona’s backyard pool.

  226. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    lol nova, mike can be hard-headed at times like 5 blogs in a row concerning the 2012 season schedule

  227. By NovaScotiaVike on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Sandiamond…There’s always Jared Allen’s sack totals to break down ad nauseum.

  228. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    ^And of course, the back-to-back-to-back posts about there being no new news on Favre’s retirement waffling…

  229. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    LOL. How would you guys like having Aqib Talib on the squad? Im down!

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1150947-2012-nfl-draft-the-minnesota-vikings-should-trade-for-aqib-talib

  230. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I think someone made Wobs mad … he didnt respond to my last email for the first time.

  231. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    OMG you wouldnt believe the debate I just had about the stadium on another blog.

    Ill try to transfer it.

  232. By NovaScotiaVike on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    ( The Year 2013 )……” Hi, L.A. Viking fans, my name is Mike Wobschall and I’m going to be your new L.A. Vikings.com reporter. It’s great to be finally warm and you can expect my first of 26 straight articles about Jared Allen’s heroic 2011 chase for the NFL sack record. But first , I feel obligated to let the fans of Minnesota know that they left 6 months ago”.

  233. By PurplHaze on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Before you all go praising Moss, remember 1 thing…

    Moss would have been NOTHING without Chris Carter to mentor him … NOTHING!!!

  234. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Actually, I’ll think I may have to take a pass on the talented Corner after reading this. I think this guy is a legit thug.

    Talib has had several conduct related issues since his NFL career started. At the NFL rookie symposium in July 2008, Talib was involved in a fistfight with fellow Buccaneers rookie Cory Boyd. On August 20, 2009, Talib allegedly battered a taxi driver, and he was arrested by Florida Highway Patrol and booked into the Pinellas County jail, charged with resisting arrest without violence and simple battery. In March 2011, police in Garland, Texas issued a felony warrant for Talib for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon after accusing him of firing a gun at his sister’s boyfriend. He was later released on $25,000 bond. Talib was indicted on the charge in May 2011.

  235. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    “…aggravated assault with a handgun in Texas…”

    Yea, Talib definitely sounds like Spencer’s kind of player. Only question is, will Texas execute him before the start of the season?

  236. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    ME

    Minn. Viking fans 9 politicians voted NO to the Vikings and NO to 7,500 middle class jobs ….
    HERES THE LIST OF PEOPLE TO CALL AND VOTE OUT.
    1- Marion Greene DFL … 651-296-0171.
    2- Frank Hornstein DFL … 651-296-9281.
    3- Bev Scalze DFL … 651-296-7153.
    4- Steve Simon DFL … 651-296-9889.
    5- Ryan Winkler DFL … 651-296-7026.
    6- Joyce Peppin R … 651-296-7806.
    7- Rich Murray R … 651-296-8216 or 877-377-9441.
    8- David H-a-n-c-o-c-k R … 651-296-4265 or 800-920-5867.
    9- Duane Quam R … 651-296-9236 or 800-387-6453.

    ___________________________________________________________

    HIM

    You only get to vote against the one in your district. I will be voting positive for any who had the ba’lls to stand up to this bla’ckmail.

    ____________________________________________________________

    ME

    Harvey Frykman thats because you lack knowledge

    Harvey Frykman hmm so you think puting 7500 constructions workers back to work isnt enough to care about? Or the fact that the players and coaches are some of the highest money earners in the state which also makes them the highest tax payers in the state insmt enough to care about? When the millionaire players and coaches leave Minnesota because people dont care … How will the state make up for the lost revenue aka state taxes paid for by millionaires ?

    Not to mention all the ancillary money generated from a sports team … hotels/motels ? restaurants ? laundry services ? or did you think the players wives wash their uniforms ? catering services ? out of towners ?

    O yea what about all the unemployed construction workers collecting tax dollars aka unemployment who would go back to work and start paying taxes again ?

    No sadly you are not alone in not thinking …

    ______________________________________________________________

    HIM

    I don’t need “knowledge” to vote. All I need is my own opinion.

    And you still cannot vote for or against people outside the district you live in.

    ____________________________________________________________

    HIM AGAIN

    Put ‘em to work building schools, roads, and sewage treatment plants

    ____________________________________________________________

    ME

    Harvey Frykman WOW that is whats wrong with this country. People vote with no knowledge. Thats why we are the dumbest country in the world. Thats how Bachman got elected nobody knew anything they just saw (R) and voted … shameful

  237. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Wait, wait, wait…if he’s a “legit thug,” then what is it that turns you off Spencer?

  238. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Nova … heres the problem in America. I cant believe this guy actually said …

    “I don’t need “knowledge” to vote. All I need is my own opinion.”

  239. By Carl K on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Sandi- I don’t really know what to think about Antonio Allen… At the senior bowl I thought he looked very good and his draft stock was high. I had my eye on him as a great fit for the Vikings with pick #66. However, at the combine he ran a 4.67 forty an lifted 225lbs 17 times. not good… but his draft stock for some reason fell off the map.

    these are the reasons I am finding for his poor draft grade:
    Antonio has little muscle definition
    He is easily lost in traffic
    Very stiff when trying to change direction
    He has struggled with hamstring and neck injuries
    Lacks a true position and is viewed as a linebacker tweener
    Will struggle with deep coverage at the next level

    IMO, I thought he looked very impressive at the Senior Bowl… so I am kind of scratching my head a bit. I don’t know, maybe he rubbed some people the wrong way at the combine? I have also read he plays with too much emotion.

    Just because the Vikings had him in for visit doesn’t mean they will draft him… Also, players like Kyle Rudolph and Toby Gerhart were shown little interest by the Vikings before the draft.

    Right now it is very hard for me to guess which safety the Vikings might draft.

    Matt Kalil and Harrison Smith are very safe picks and should be available in the first and second round respectfully.

    If the Vikings pick a WR in round 2, than I can only guess as to who the Vikings might like at safety. Antonio is on the list. Markelle Martin is on the list.
    Brandon Taylor is only 5’10 but I would put him on the list. I would think the Vikings could also have an eye on a big corner that excels in zone coverage but also strong in run support to convert to safety.

  240. By NovaScotiaVike on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    SHAWN….an opinion without knowledge to back it up is just pure garbage.

  241. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Talib in court June 25th this year for assault with a handgun. Perfect guy for Spencer!!!

  242. By PurplHaze on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    As for Cook …

    I think he was told he’d be given one, and only one, chance. One more slip and the Vikes would drop him the next chance they got. That’s only because of the promise he showed on the field. I think timing is EVERYTHING with regard to discipline, and I feel like Cook has probably learned his lesson.

  243. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t need “knowledge” to vote. All I need is my own opinion.

    LOL! That’s classic. The guy might as well have told you straight up that he’s a moron, and proud of it!

    Knowledge is dangerous, it could cause me to change my opinion…and then I’d look like an idiot!

  244. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Nova … thats a good way to put it.

  245. By NovaScotiaVike on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I was raised to believe in the old adage ” It’s better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you’re an idiot, than to open it and prove it”.

  246. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    LOL Parody thats an even better way to put it.

  247. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    At least it’s pure garbage Nova. I hate it when my garbage gets tainted…

  248. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Parody, even I have my limits. Hes clearly not learning from my mistakes so I would be discouraged if we decided to pursue this gangsta.

  249. By PurplHaze on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    “Never argue with an idiot … They’ll just pull you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

  250. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    “By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Parody, even I have my limits. Hes clearly not learning from my mistakes

    Not learning from “my” mistakes Spencer? Did you just reveal something?

  251. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I meant hes not learning from his mistakes.

  252. By NovaScotiaVike on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Or is he learning from Parody’s mistakes….I’m confused????/

  253. By vikings4life on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    REMEMBER IVE SAID ALL ALONG WE WILL NOT DRAFT KALIL, HE IS THE BEST TACKLE IN THIS CLASS BUT NOT A TOP 15 TACKLE IN THE NFL WHICH IS THE ONLY WAY WE WOULD TAKE HIM PEOPLE RATE HIM LOWER THEN JOE THOMAS AND JAKE LONG COMING OUT. AND WERE GOING TO TAKE HIM AT 3? NOSIR.

  254. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    LMAO

  255. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Carl I think the weakness part of scouting reports tend to be exaggerated although there is some rd flags glaring with Allen according to what you posted.
    What I saw on tape was the burst to the ball and good tackling. Not much for us to look at with Allen and Martin. The scouts get full game tapes so we will have to trust studwell & co

  256. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Completely off topic but who was “Fire Chilly” … is he around anymore?

  257. By Mike B. on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Take Kalil at #3 This is a no brainer. Kalil at #3

  258. By NovaScotiaVike on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I always thought it was Chilly’s mother.

  259. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    v4life man you adamant about disliking the pick! If everyone agreed then how do we know that Spielman will address the LT position next round in the draft?

  260. By NovaScotiaVike on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I will be out of town tomorrow, so I’ll miss Thursday’s blog….” A look at the 2012 Schedule, Backwards “.

  261. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Good Question: How Much Will Minn. Lose If Vikings Leave?

    http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2011/11/08/good-question-how-much-will-minn-lose-if-vikings-leave/

  262. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Just give me your phone number Nova – I’ll text you updates on it throughout the day.

  263. By Spencer on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I swear Nova is just too funny.

  264. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I see news flying everywhere about the stadium issue. Goodell and Dayton to speak tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. est. Even Art Rooney(steelers) offering assistance

    Supporters of building a new Vikings stadium looked for ways Wednesday to keep the project afloat at the Capitol after its defeat in a House committee.

    One possible backup plan emerged in a bill that’s supposed to be up for review in the House Taxes Committee on Thursday. It would authorize Minnesota charities that operate games of chance in bars to offer electronic versions of some games, with tax profits earmarked to fund the stadium. The charities bill could be a vehicle for attaching the larger Minneapolis stadium bill and giving it new life, although its chief supporter(Rep. John Kriesel) doesn’t favor that approach

  265. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Great article Shawn. It shows that the money lost on player income and out of state spending alone would be more than enough to cover what the state is being asked to contribute, (I left out the in state numbers in my comparison to avoid the politician’s dodge of saying “people would just spend that money elsewhere”).

    It doesn’t even take into consideration the extra out-of-state spending that would be created by a Super Bowl, Final Four (neither of which is guaranteed, but both of which are as close to a lock with a new stadium as you can get), or the 300+ other events that would be possible in the new stadium every year.

    So we can’t figure out how to pay for it without raising taxes…but has any politician who’s against it proposed a plan on how we are going to recouperate the taxes lost when the team leaves? That looks like a bigger number…

  266. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    oh yea…and how about the $80+ million per year that is being wasted on unemployment taxes for the 7500 construction workers? Might as well put that money to use and pay them to do something instead of pay them to wait for a chance to do something…

  267. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Our politicians are idiots. Plain and simple.

  268. By Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Well gang this is quite serious.

  269. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @CharlieWest,

    They have put all the starters for every season in the Viking Guidebooks that come out every year. It’s probably also on Pro Football Reference.com.

    But I started watching the Vikings in 1968, and I don’t believe you played much except for the return game. Didn’t you have a Viking record Kick Return in 1967?

    Afterwards Bud Grant said, “If you return a ball that deep in the end zone again, you’re gone.” (or words to that effect)

  270. By Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I believe there is a lot more revenue at stake than anyone is considering. I know many argue against the trickle down effect, but there is common sense involved. If the wealthy invest and millions are brought in to the state through various industries, such as construction, hospitality, etc, etc, there is a huge ripple effect.
    I Googled ripple effect of the MN stadium and found some interesting articles.
    Here is one:

    http://www.kare11.com/news/article/973257/391/Lose-the-Vikings-lose-the-money

  271. By The Triumphant Return of Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Oh, and just for clarification: This is the real Titus. And, no, I have not posted under any aliases. I have not posted for a couple weeks.

  272. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @CharlieWest,

    The lineups are listed under TEAM Franchises.

    You were the starter at LCB in 1971 and 1972.

    They treated concussions differently in those days, so I am not surprised that you forgot!!

  273. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    CharlieWest,

    You were number 40 right? I didn’t look it up!

  274. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Yes lads it’s the might Titus!!!

  275. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @Titus,

    Most people don’t think it would hurt our state. But someone said we would be like North Dakota. Our most important team might be the MN Gophers. Imagine that!

  276. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    4 in a row to your 1 What’s happening Titus???

  277. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    5

  278. By The Triumphant Return of Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I worked at one of our major hotels back when the Bills-Redskins played the Mpls Superbowl— we raked in so much money that week-end. In fact, I was at the Marriott and Bill Marriott stayed with us– all the big shots came to town and they spent and spent. One Superbowl will bring in hundreds of millions to the economy. Hotels were full for about an 80 mile radius– you could not get a room in Rochester.

  279. By Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Oops, let me not be too flamboyant with the monikers.

  280. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Titus quit playing games!

  281. By Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I am doing great Fred– we have our big conference in two weeks– Dr. Mark Chironna is coming back! You should come.

  282. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Unite men of Minnesota for the GOAL!!!

  283. By Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Where is Parody?

  284. By Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I need an analysis on that link I posted above…

  285. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings fans unite for the World Championship!

  286. By Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    In the written article, it says every home game generates 6 million dollars, but in the accompanying video, like in Shawn’s article, it says the whole season brings in about 18-20 million. If it is 6, then times 8 games, the revenue is closer to 50 million a year.

  287. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @Titus,

    Your church sounds great. At least you can get excited about it. Speaking of Rochester, I lived there for many years, and loved the church I attended. Now I’m in the country. Little country preachers are not always the best, that’s all I’m saying.

  288. By Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Fred, seriously, if you are in town– May 2 is the start– you should come — I will be at all the services– we also have a preacher from Hawaii and one from Ghana coming.

  289. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @Titus,

    It’s big business, they would be CRAZY to let the Vikings leave.

    One thing you can say, most of the football teams that left (CLEVELAND, BALTIMORE COLTS, OAKLAND-LA-OAKLAND, LA RAMS, ST. LOUIS, ETC) left by sneaking away.

    The Colts put things in a van at night and raced out of town. Al Davis did similar things ( He didn’t have permission to leave, they left anyway)

    The modern NFL is big money!

  290. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Where is your church, I forgot?

  291. By Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    It is seriously crazy. Mpls-St. Paul is the 15th largest metro area in the country and would be by far the largest market without an NFL team.

  292. By Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Fred, here is a clue– if you check out Chironna’s itinerary, you will find it.

  293. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Consolation Prize: Expansion team in 10-15 years.

  294. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    wooohooo! draftniks saying Burfict could be the greatest draft pick of all time in the 5-6 round area oR a flat out bust—> out of the nfl

    talk about high-risk/high reward
    in case you couldn’t tell I was a middle linebacker in high school… lol

  295. By Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Wait a sec Fred– apparently his itinerary is not complete– we are in Golden Valley.

  296. By Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Sandiamond, who is playing games?

  297. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I like taking a chance on Burfict, why not?

  298. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    KoN or Titus? nah I believe u now

  299. By Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Gang, I was one of the few that scoffed at the idea the Vikings would leave. NOT ANYMORE!!! This is more than serious. They will leave if the stadium is not built. We need to get vocal. You can talk all you want about draft picks, but where will these players be in a year or two? On Venice Beach?

  300. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    @Titus,

    Thank you for the tip!

  301. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    hognuts we are in the perfect spot to get him , 3rd pick every round

    hoping the FO seems something in him

  302. By Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Seriously Fred, you are more than welcome to come- I would show you around. The evening services are the best– we use our stage and smart lights, etc to the max- there will be dance, music and great teaching. Only thing– I don’t want to put my contact info on this blog–

  303. By Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    like Spencer did…. LOL

  304. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Draft is here, got to be the first order of business imo

  305. By Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    SD– did you hear the VP for the Vikes??? He said “We were told to wait one more year and that was 6 years ago– we won’t wait another year.” They are moving if a stadium is not decided on this session.

  306. By Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    WAKE UP!!!!

  307. By Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    It would be a sad day if the Vikings-Packer rivalry died. The NFL does not want it to happen— but I would say there is a 70% chance right now we lose the team.

  308. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    The suspense is killing me.

  309. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I understand it is very urgent and Goodell is not happy. Doesn’t Legislature adjourn around May 11th?

  310. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    I will hate the Packers just as much as I do now if the Vikings leave, sadly though, my heart will not be with the Vikings anymore if they leave. I can’t watch the NFL by only cheering against a team. Please don’t go!

  311. By Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    If they go, I will leave MN!

  312. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Titus you could pass on contact info through wobs. He probably would do it once for ya. Haven’t fiqured out any other way to do it

  313. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Titus – I reviewed that sight, and I think you connected the wrong numbers. In the 4th paragraph, right after they mention the $6 million that the fans spend per game, they point out that the players pay $20 million in income taxes.

    Since Mondale is talking about state revenue at the end (presumably anyways), I’m pretty sure that he’s referring to the revenue lost by the state just from the players’ salaries.

  314. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    If you’re concerned about sharing too much contact info with the wrong people, one of you could create an e-mail account just for this purpose.

    Go to gmail, or some other free mail site (I think there’s at least a couple to choose from)and create a new account and share it on the blog. Then the other one of you could mail contact info to the account, and you can simply abandon the e-mail account afterwards.

  315. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    The possible “rabbit?”

    http://hometownsource.com/2012/04/18/arden-hills-vikings-stadium-backers-back-at-state-capitol/

  316. By Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Ah, Parody, I guess I was thinking in the bigger picture, but you are right. I needed another mind- very tired lately. These articles are looking at direct tax revenue as the payback for the 500plus million. But if you add 48 million pumped into the economy over 8 games (let alone playoff games, which they say bring in more than regular games) each year, that is a lot of cash flow. I don’t believe the benefits are being properly told. I feel like we need to start a PR campaign. Move over Wobscahll.

  317. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Parody emailed wobs about a draft picking contest. He likes the idea but not sure how to go about it. one person for email collection was suggested but nobody wants to post their info. Looks like we are on our own or the marketing department might announce some sort of contest

  318. By Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    great idea on the emails, though.

  319. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Titus misspelled a name. Hold the presses

  320. By Titus on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Sandiamond, the writer intended it so.

  321. By Parody on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Sandiamond – Are you saying that YOU e-mailed Wobs about that? Your wording appears to say that I did it, and I know that’s wrong but I recall someone mentioning it earlier, where we would get points for selecting the right players and/or positions at each Vikings’ pick, with extra points being attributed to later rounds, since they’re so much more difficult to predict.

    In the contest, would you have us competing for some prize, or just bragging rights? If it’s the latter, then we don’t even need e-mails, we could just do it through the blog…but we could all go with the earlier idea of creating a free e-mail account just for this special purpose.

  322. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    Good night and good luck guys!

  323. By hognuts on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    p.s. this blog is getting slow

  324. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    no forget the comma. Yea I agree it could be done on the comments section here. Somebody has to coordinate and establish the rules of the contest no matter what they might end up being.
    There is just too many players out there for people to guess on a pre-draft contest. Probably better just to do it each day of the draft 1,2-3,4-7
    Sure he could get a prize for the winner. We just need to wait right now and see if wobs comes up with anything else

  325. By sandiamond on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    * forgot ouch it’s 1 o’clock here

  326. By vikesfan12 on Apr 18, 2012 | Reply

    It would sure sweeten the deal if the NFL would lock in a super bowl at Minnesotas new stadium

  327. By mad1dem on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    in less the fans start getting crazy we might be seeing our last days as Minnesota vikings fans and who knows we may have to start going to LA to see game…..And that will suck because the fans over there get crazy over colors see a lot of shootin and stabings going on after games….i loved games in min the people are cool and relaxed…

  328. By mad1dem on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    read this post on nfl .com

    Officially starting a protest in favor of the stadium bill. If you believe the state of MN needs the Minnesota Vikings and needs this bill to pass please come and show your support at Mall Of America Field (Metrodome) on April 26th (the night of the draft party) and help protest the unfair legislation leaders opposing the stadium bill. There is only 2 weeks left in this session, so now is the time to act. WE WILL NOT LOSE OUR BELOVED MINNESOTA VIKINGS OVER 9 BAD POLITICIANS!!!! Please share this post and please help us be heard on April 26th at the Metrodome. This time we WONT be ignored.

    and it should be passed on….

  329. By Rocksalt on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Sadly, It may indeed be that the politicians are representing the will of the majority of MN voters……there are many people opposed to using public funding to assist in paying for a new stadium. There are also those opposed to using any gambling revenues.
    I ,for one, think it a huge mistake for voters to be so short sighted on this issue, but I suspect that the vikkings stadium supporters are not in the majority.
    LA Vikes will win tghe 2016 Super Bowl……..I will wash my hands of the NFL if they leave, and will have less respect for those in my home state as a result.

  330. By Rocksalt on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    By Sid Hartman, MPLS STAR TRIBUNE

    As the Legislature continues to block attempts by Gov. Mark Dayton and the Vikings to get a new stadium built on the existing Metrodome site, it’s important to look at how costly it has been for mid-market cities to replace their NFL franchise after they leave town — something I am sure will happen here if a stadium bill isn’t passed at least by the 2013 Legislature.

    It’s clear the NFL wants a franchise in Los Angeles, a market that has 5.6 million television households, second in the nation only to New York. The Twin Cities area is 15th at 1.7 million. The recent $2 billion price paid for the Los Angeles Dodgers was because of the team’s big TV market, again showing just how important the area is to the NFL and its broadcast partners.

    In the past 30 years, six NFL teams have relocated. The Baltimore Colts moved to Indianapolis in 1984, the St. Louis Cardinals moved to Arizona in 1988, the Los Angeles Raiders moved back to Oakland in 1995, the Los Angeles Rams moved to St. Louis that same year, the Cleveland Browns moved to Baltimore in 1996 and the Houston Oilers moved to Tennessee in 1997.

    Four of the cities that watched their teams leave managed to bring in teams years later, while the Los Angeles area continues to angle for a new franchise.

    Here is the background on the cities that lost teams and what it cost them to get one back.

    • The Baltimore Colts moved in March 1984 with Robert Irsay moving the team in the dead of the night. Irsay was asking the city of Baltimore for money totalling anywhere from $25 million in stadium improvements or a proposed development of a major domed stadium to house football, hockey and baseball that would have cost around $78 million. Neither plan passed into law for various reasons. When Baltimore finally got another franchise, taking the Browns from Cleveland, it cost $220 million to build Ravens Stadium in 2003, 19 years after the Colts’ departure.

    • In St. Louis, the city refused to build a new, bigger stadium so the Cardinals wouldn’t have to play in the old Busch Stadium, so owner Bill Bidwill moved the team to Arizona in 1988. When St. Louis went after the Rams, the city had to build a new domed stadium to attract the team. The building now known as the Edward Jones Dome cost $280 million to build in 1995, seven years after the Cardinals left.

    • Art Modell’s decision to move the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore stemmed from a loss of revenue for Cleveland Municipal Stadium after the Indians moved into what’s now known as Progressive Field in 1994. He had asked for $175 million in tax dollars to update the stadium, but one day before Cleveland voters passed that bill overwhelmingly, Modell announced he was moving the Browns because Baltimore could provide the money for a first-class stadium. It cost $349 million to build Cleveland Browns Stadium, and the expansion Browns returned in 1999, after the city lacked pro football for three years.

    • After the city of Houston turned down Oilers owner Bud Adams’ request for a new stadium in 1997, he moved the team to Tennessee, where it eventually became the Titans. The Houston Holdings Group then went to work trying to secure a new franchise for the city and the NFL granted them an expansion franchise. In 2000 the city broke ground on retractable-roof Reliant Stadium, to be the home of the new Houston Texans, which cost $352 million to build. The team started play in 2002, five years after the Oilers left.
    Costs have gone up
    According to a report from Marquette University Law School, in every one of the previous four cases where a city lost a team and then built a stadium years later, the public paid a much larger percentage of building costs than the Vikings are asking for.

    And while the cost of the Vikings stadium, nearly $1 billion, is much higher than all the other stadiums because of inflation — Houston’s stadium, the youngest of the four examples, was built a decade ago — the percentage of money provided by the team is much higher. Imagine how much less a stadium would have cost had it been built when Red McCombs bought the team in 1998.

    The people of Baltimore provided 87 percent of the financing for their new stadium after the Colts left town. In St. Louis, public financing for their new stadium came 100 percent from the public after the Cardinals moved. The citizens of Cleveland put up 76.5 percent of the funding for their new stadium after the original Browns left for Baltimore. And in Houston, public financing for Reliant Stadium came in at 73 percent after their first team left town.

    The current Vikings proposal has the state of Minnesota and the city of Minneapolis providing 56.2 percent of the financing for a new building — public financing through taxation remains a question mark in the deal, but it would certainly be lower than that percentage. The Vikings would provide 43.8 percent of the stadium financing.

  331. By Rocksalt on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Like I have said before….penny smart-pound foolish.

  332. By Carl K on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Sandi- I am just a fan who likes to watch college football and follow some of these prospects. I don’t rewatch games or break down film and look for weakness like the pro do.

    As a fan, I watched Antonio Allen play in the Senior Bowl game and the South Carolina vs Nebraska bowl game. I was rooting for Allen to look good and make plays… and he didn’t disappoint me. In both games he was 1 of the leading tacklers and very much looked the part of an NFL standout prospect.

    I would not be disappointed if we drafted Antonio Allen at some point in the draft.

  333. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    I would love to have Antonio Allen on the Vikings. Former LB so you know he can lay people out.

  334. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    3 strikes !!…Your out Mn politicians..

    In this crazy fast paced world…It is hard enough maintaining family ties…Encouraging family tradition..Making for strong family bonds…

    Bonds that are created with Mn sports…Father and son traditions handed down year after year…Through teams like the Lakers…oops..Thet are gone because of stupid Mn politicians…Like our North stars…rats…They are gone also because of stupid politicians also…But there is the Vikings ???…

    ARE MINNESTA POLITICIANS going to be the end of another Minnesota family tradition ???…Traditions handed down from father to son…Brother to brother…Mother and daughter…

    Isn’t it already hard enough to find ways of prying our children away from computers…Texting friends while we try to talk to them….Having head sets listening to music while eating breakfast…(not sure you can even call that music these days..But it is to them)…

    How are families going to make these type of traditional bonds with our kids…When Minnesota politicians keep badgering these franchises from our state !!…

    Mn politicians have already been responsible for losing the Lakers.Northstars. and now most likely the Vikings…

    The Wild and T Wolves are only shadows of the franchises they have replaced…It will take fathers and sons years to replace all the tradition that left with the Lakers and North Stars…If it happens at all…

    Keep the Vikings in Monnesota…Don’t let the “foolish 9″ ruin another Minnesota tradition !!!

  335. By Dumber on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    I applaud your efforts guys, but at root my philosophy dissagrees. I like the
    Vikes and they belong in Minn. Those who love football should pay the going price to have what they love. If the NFL and the Vikes set the price too high for the people who love it, it should not be up to yhose who do not to subsidize it.

  336. By Parody on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Sure Dumber, in a perfect world. But how about those of us who don’t make use of convention centers, schools, public libraries, or certain roads? Why are we forced to pay for those? Make the people who use them pay for them. Throw in the local jails too. Make the criminals fund their own home.

  337. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Dumber…

    Maybe your just not old enough to have seen foolish Mn politics keep repeating itself…From Politicians like the foolish 9…

    After the Lakers and North Stars left Minnesota…How much were the costs of bringing back expansion teams into the state ??…Compared to what the costs would have been to have dealt with the icon franchises that were here already…

    If the Vikings leave…(and they will)…The state will have to wait at least 5 yrs before given an opportunity to bring in another franchise or expansion team in NFL…That is the minimum waiting period…

    And the state would be required to have a new stadium built for that franchise…At the cost of that state…Meaning the state would pay for the stadium 100%…And history has already shown…Politicians don’t care about expense bringing in franchise teams to replace the icon franchises they so foolishly lost…

    That being said Mr taxpayer….5 yrs from now…This 1 billion dollar stadium that Zygi is willing to pay 50% of….Will be the tax payers total responsibility bringing in a new franchise…And with inflation levels being what they are…That stadium would cost tax payers around 1.5 billion…

    So instead of the state splitting the costs down the middle for just about everything right now…Even operation costs after being built…

    5 yrs after the Vikings leave history tells you the politicians are going to make tax payers fork up an extra billion dollars to bring an expansion team to Minnesota…But they won’t be asking for a referendum then…Because they know voters will turn it down…

    So why not keep a popular icon franchise in the Vikings now for 400 million that everybody loves…

    Instead of paying 1.5 billion 6 yrs for now…For a team nobody could care less about for the next 20 yrs…And will need local support in cash from MPLS to stay in the state…Until they do get fan support to run on their own…

  338. By Parody on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    ” If the NFL and the Vikes set the price too high “

    Dumber, your name really is apropriate. It’s not the NFL and Vikings who are setting the price of building a stadium, but the construction industry and economy.

  339. By chrisbreezy on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    1st kalil OT, 2nd smith SS, 3rd quick/mcnutt WR, 4th martin FS, 4th rainey RB, 4th steed CB, 5th fangupo DT, 6th burris OLB, 7th burfict MLB, 7th walsh

  340. By DeerTracks on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Mike W.—-”1st game Ponder vs Blaine?” How about Webb, vs Blaine!

    I am so sick and tired of Ponder this, Ponder that!

    After Pretty-Boy Ponder gets his a$$ kicked and Joe has to come in and clean up the mess (again) Just maybe Frazier will wake up and see who is the better QB!

  341. By Mike B. on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    @DeerTracks Ponder is the starting QB for the Vikings, so Wobby saying Ponder Vs Blaine he is spot on. Fraizer is not sold on Webb and has stated over and over that Webb is the #2 QB for this franchise. Ponder is the #1 QB. Maybe it is you that needs to wake up.

  342. By Mike B. on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    @Rocksalt since the Houston, Browns, and Colts moves. The NFL has put in place rules that state that the majoritiy of the owners must approve moves of team to other locations. It must also approve sales of teams to other owners. So not only is there a process for the legislature to get the stadium deal done, there is a process before the NFL can move the Vikings to another location. There is also a rule if the Vikings move can they keep the name Vikings at the new location. I believe if they move the team the name Vikings must be retired forever. That in itself is a significant loss of dollars in team identification. This situation is far from over. I am sure the NFL will get the 2013 Legislature a crack at this. Realistically a move will not occur until 2014.

  343. By Spencer on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    LA has had teams before and they left, what makes them think another team is going to fare well in LA? Also take a look at the economy; good luck getting any taxpayer funded stadiums built in the near future….

  344. By Mike B. on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    The problem is the stadium cost will go from just under 1 Billion dollars to 1.2 billion waiting still next year. If MN voters want the Vikings to stay, they should vote out all the no voters and send a message to the rest that if you don’t get a stadium deal done that you are next.

  345. By Mike B. on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    @Spencer You make a good point. The Vikings aren’t the only team having problems with getting a stadium built. The Chargers have also had issues. What you say about LA is also true. If an NFL team can make a go of it in LA, there would already be a team there. The fact that two teams have tried and failed makes a big statement on how another team would do there. It also puts a big question mark on Sid’s article about money that would be made in LA. good points Spencer

  346. By DeerTracks on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Mike b–What does the “B” stand for? Bull$hit?

    Frazier has to do other then stand on the sidelines during a game, with that blank look on his snoot, and pay attenyion to what is going on!!

    Can’t wait to see Ponder get his head jamed up Fraziers’ A$$ each time!

  347. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    DeerTracks- I think Fraizer knows a little more than you about football.

  348. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    The only time Webb does good is when he comes in after the other team had a week to plan for a different QB. When teams are able to set thier gameplan knowing Webb will start he doesnt do anything.

  349. By Spencer on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Deertracks- The “B” in stands for Mike Brilliance!

  350. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    7 days 9 hour and 37 minutes until draft!

  351. By Mike B. on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    @DeerTracks It would be obvious that Fraizer saw enough of Joe Webb’s play in 2010 to know we needed a different starting QB in 2011. Ponder is in and he saw enough of Webb in relief of Ponder in 2011 to make the Statement just a couple months ago Webb is our #2 QB and will not be a WR. The result is obvious. Ponder is a better QB than Webb.

  352. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Its not just LA as a Vikings landing spot…Texas has had good luck with the now Dallas Stars…Did the Lakers bomb in LA ??…

    What happens when Zygi starts shopping for stadium sites or even looks to sell the team ???…

    Will Wisconsin want another team…In Eau Claire ??…(shudder at the thought of that happening)…How about down in De Moines Ia…They could steal most of Mn fan base to come down there if a stadium is built…Would the state of Iowa turn down an icon franchise like the Vikings…If Wilf was willing to spend 50% of the stadium costs and operations ??…

  353. By Mike B. on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    I just read on NFL. com that MN legislatures inability to get a stadium deal done is enough justification for the Wilf’s to ask the NFL for a move. So now we will see if the Wilfs request a move or sale of the team this year.

  354. By Spencer on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    To be fair Webb never played with AP or Michael Jenkins at all last year..

  355. By Parody on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer – From news I’ve heard, it seems that LA is closer to agreeing to a new stadium than MN is, and that’s without any guarantee of a team moving in. It would be stupid of them to build a stadium until they sign a deal with a team, so they need to wait until the NFL authorizes a move.

  356. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Is there any politicians foolish enough to believe the that Roger Goodell and the NFL owners can’t have their own “special session”…

    To hear the Vikings request to move the franchise..Or request permission to sell the team ??

    Goodell has already had conversations with Dayton already this year…

  357. By PurplHaze on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Does anybody see Goodell getting involved as a help or a hindrance?

    At this point, my opinion is, we the fans can use all the visibility on this situation we can get!!!

    KEEP THE MINNESOTA VIKINGS IN MINNESOTA!!!

  358. By sandiamond on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Browns GM Tom Heckert: I think we’d like to stay at No. 4. I do think we would be able to trade out. Right now, we hope we stay there.

    Lot of talking going on, no interest in a QB and Trent Richardson is the focus

  359. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    That’s the problem Haze…

    At this point the Vikings have nothing to lose…But Viking fans do…

    The Vikings have been nothing but sugar&spice for 10 yrs…Good luck with that the last decade..Did that get the Twins a new stadium ??…Nope…

    It took a man named Bud Selig to say he was just going to make the Twins franchise disappear into the sunset…They were not even going to get the chance to relocate they were such an inexpensive franchise…Selig was just going to dissolve them…Like they never existed…

    Politicians didn’t keep the Twins in Minnesota…The fans did..

    And its time for the fans to fight for their Vikings now…If they want the Vikings to stay in Minnesota…

    Tomorrow is to late…Call your Mn politicians NOW !!!…

  360. By sandiamond on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Roger Goodell tells Mark Dayton the recent failure to get the new stadium passed will have “Serious Consequences”

  361. By sandiamond on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    The nasty 9 has pi$$ed off the whole football world. Are they all are a much of politician “geeks” ? wonder if they have ever attended a Vikings game

  362. By sandiamond on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    *bunch

  363. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Now some politicians will say with Goodell making that statement is a “threat” to Mn politics…

    Its not..Its a reality…

    Vikings are not making money right now..The NFL is keeping The Vikings franchise a float…Even with that help…The franchise is only breaking even..

    A new stadium needs to be built…The old stadium is falling apart at the seams !!…Just look at how the roof collapsed recently…Thank heavens nobody was hurt…

    The 30 yr lease has worn out along with the stadium…A lease that was in place for what the state deemed would be a 30 yr life of the stadium they built…

    If that is the case…Why are the politicians bucking a new stadium now…The Vikings have done nothing but do everything a franchise could have been asked of them and more for the last 30 yrs…

    Are not Mn politicians looking more like slum lords in this situation by the day…Forcing tenants to stay past their 30 yr lease…Asking and getting premium money for staying in a house that has little or no value…

  364. By sandiamond on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    good news!

    Dayton: NFL Commisioner Goodell & Steelers owner Rooney coming to MN tomorrow for meetings w/mnleg leaders on Vikings stadium

  365. By vikesfan12 on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Ziggy- Please hold out just alittle longer so we(the fans) can vote out the NASTY NINE!!!!!!

  366. By DeerTracks on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B—Frazier seened enough of Webb in 2010? How about 2011? Just proves my point that Frazier must have had his blinders on when Webb proved he was better then Prettyboy Ponder…..

    GrandDaddyBurp—Other teams have time to “plan” for Webb? Give Webb a OL to work from and “they” would do nothing! Joe Webb is the better QB!

    Play him or trade him to another team that will use him and I can cheer for each time they play the LA Vikings! Give him to the 49ers, my old team I had before,!

  367. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Well i sure hope Viking fans can find out which flight that they are coming in on…Go to the airport and CHEER at their arrival !!!…

    Mn needs to show support for their Vikings…And the people standing up for the Vikings owner and FANS !!!!…

    Thank you !!!!…. Roger Goodell and Mr Rooney !!!

  368. By Viking-ology on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    It’s hard to be excited about the draft when the stadium issue looms so large.

  369. By PurplHaze on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Goodell? Lay it all out! Make it CRYSTAL CLEAR to those MN legislative BOZOs just exactly what will happen if they’re foolish to FORCE this long standing NFL franchise, rich in tradition, to leave the state!!!

    THANK YOU SINCERELY FOR YOUR SUPPORT, MR’s GOODELL AND ROONEY!!!

  370. By PurplHaze on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Mr. Goodell? Lay it all out! Make it CRYSTAL CLEAR to those MN legislative BOZOs just exactly what will happen if they’re foolish enough to FORCE this long standing NFL franchise, rich in tradition, to leave the state!!!

    THANK YOU SINCERELY FOR YOUR SUPPORT, MR’s GOODELL AND ROONEY!!!

  371. By Viking-ology on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Goodell wants the stadium issue resolved right now, just like the Wilf’s do. he is a man of action and will be a strong ally to seal the deal for a new stadium in Minnesota. Get it done!!!

  372. By PurplHaze on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Ziggy doesn’t WANT to go anywhere! I remember when he and his brother bought the Vikes. Everyone was so concerned then that they’d move the team out of the state. He put those rumors to rest by assuring the fans that the Vikings were going to stay in Minnesota. They’ve been true to their word.

    I don’t expect the Vikings will move until that is the only solution left.

  373. By Carl K on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B- I agree that Ponder is the starter going into the season. But, I am not so sure that Frazier is 100% sold on Ponder over Webb? Spielman yes.

    Frazier’s job is on the line… If Ponder struggles at all in the preseason or in the first 2 games… I think Frazier will be tempted to bring Webb in for a spark.

    Schwartz from the Lions admitted his team had no answers for stopping Joe Webb.

    Webb has a special way of making runs and throws look effortless. He is fun to watch.

    I am also fan of Ponder… but the question I would raise, is it too tempting to bench Ponder in favor of Webb? Or is that a good situation to have?

  374. By sandiamond on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    http://min.scout.com/2/1178871.html

    Goodell, Rooney headed to MN for stadium talk

  375. By Carl K on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    The first 2 games are very much win-able games. If we start a little slow Ponder and Frazier could be feeling some pressure. SO, the smart GM move by Spielman would be to see if Webb can make some plays at WR in the early part of camp and preseason. Webb making plays at the wideout position would really ease some pressure and temptation to use Webb at QB. Plus, we do have a proven veteran like Sage.

  376. By Viking-ology on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    To all those Ponder doubters, look to the east, what if NY Giants gave up on Eli Manning, how would that have turned out? Webb is a great athelete, not a great QB, thats what makes him dynamic on the field.

    But if was a starting QB, teams will quickly adjust to him. He is a work in progrss at QB, we can’t have that, or a washed up QB anymore. It’s time to make our QB investment in Ponder. Give him a chance and stop asking for instant results, you’re being unrealistic.

  377. By ozzinator on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Gov. Mark Dayton says NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and the owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers will come to Minnesota on Friday to meet with state lawmakers and urge them to make progress on building a new stadium for the Vikings.

    Top NFL officials told Dayton Thursday morning, “the Vikings will be in play if the legislature fails to approve a stadium plan this session.”

    Stadium supporters have been scrambling since a House committee voted down the latest proposal Monday night. The team is committed to play its upcoming season in the Metrodome, but Dayton says failure to approve a stadium plan this session increases the chances of Minnesota losing the franchise.

  378. By sandiamond on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Carl the pressure is still on for the Vikings to collect a few wins so I’m not expecting any rookies to see action early on. All that could change with the brutal schedule after the bye week
    Hoping some how some way Griffin and Webb get on the field more!

  379. By megakrab on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    The NFL and the Minnesota Vikings are putting pressure on Minnesota lawmakers who have stalled public funding for a new stadium.

    The Metrodome stands near downtown Minneapolis.CAPTIONBy Richard Sennott, APA House committee rejected a stadium bill Monday and the Vikings warned “there is no next year” for stadium talks.

    In a phone conversation with Gov. Mark Dayton, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said without a deal, there would be ‘serious consequences’ for the team and the league, according to the St. Paul Pioneer Press. Goodell and Steelers President Art Rooney, head of the league’s stadium committee, plan to meet with Dayton and legislative leaders Friday in Minnesota, Dayton announced Thursday.

    Eric Grubman, the league’s executive vice president of finance and strategic transactions says the situation is ‘ripe for a change.’

    “I don’t know if that means a sale. I don’t know if that means a move. You have a very dejected ownership.”

    Moving a team requires that a “stalemate” exists in a local market, per NFL policies. Grubman says that criteria would be met if lawmakers do not approve a deal in the approaching final weeks of the legislative session.

    The team’s lease at the 32-year-old Metrodome ended following the 2011 season, which the Vikings finished 3-13. The bill proposes a $975 million stadium to be built on the Metrodome site.

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/04/goodell-warns-of-serious-consequences-in-vikings-stadium-talks/1

  380. By Mike B. on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Webb is probably going to see less time on the field if Fraizer is going to make him a traditional #2. From all the PCs he has stated this. It is nice to have a #2 with the physical abilities that Webb has, but he is still infact the #2 guy.

  381. By vikesfan12 on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    All the Vikes fan need to call the “nasty nine” and put the pressure from the other end!!

  382. By sandiamond on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Attention: basically 1 week till the 2012 Draft

    all OT Kalil supporters need to think about easing their mind and thoughts for the pick due to the very real possibilty of a Trade Down

    There are 3 very compelling position options available vs. Claiborne,Kalil and Blackmon

  383. By DRS on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    NFL warning of sale, move adds pressure for stadium deal
    Article by: MIKE KASZUBA and MARK CRAIG , Star Tribune staff writers Updated: April 19, 2012 – 11:03 AM

    The NFL says there’s a list of buyers and the Wilfs may be ready to listen with stadium plan stalled.

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/148022185.html

  384. By DRS on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    NFL warning of sale, move adds pressure for stadium deal
    Article by: MIKE KASZUBA and MARK CRAIG , Star Tribune staff writers Updated: April 19, 2012 – 11:03 AM

    Conditions are “getting ripe” for the Minnesota Vikings to be sold and relocated, a top NFL official warned Wednesday.

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/148022185.html

  385. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Of course there is a list of buyers…The Vikings are an iconic franchise…

  386. By DRS on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    NFL warning of sale, move adds pressure for stadium deal
    Article by: MIKE KASZUBA and MARK CRAIG , Star Tribune staff writers
    Conditions are “getting r-i-p-e” for the Minnesota Vikings to be sold and relocated, a top NFL official warned Wednesday.

    In an interview just hours after Gov. Mark Dayton offered league officials a “sobering” a-s-s-e-s-s-m-e-n-t of the chances for legislative action to publicly fund a new stadium this year, Eric Grubman, vice president of business operations for the NFL, said team owner Zygi Wilf was “dejected” by the political stalemate.

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/148022185.html

  387. By DRS on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    NFL warning of sale, move adds pressure for stadium deal
    Article by: MIKE KASZUBA and MARK CRAIG , Star Tribune staff writers

    NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell will be in Minnesota on Friday to talk with Dayton about the team’s future.

    “There are plenty of willing buyers. I think the Wilfs do not want to sell the franchise, but I think there is a point where they probably would be open-minded,” Grubman added. “I would not be surprised if [Goodell] tells the governor, if he asks, what other cities are interested.”

    Grubman said Pittsburgh Steelers owner Art Rooney II, chairman of the NFL stadium committee, plans to be part of Thursday’s conversation, a step that Grubman said was a “pretty serious” sign that other team owners are concerned about the Vikings situation.

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/148022185.html

  388. By DeerTracks on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B—-In the Land of the OZ, and Frazier thinkers, Ponder is the GREAT ONE sent to save the LA Vikings!

    Truth be known, wait until opposing teams hand Ponders’ head to Pan-face Frazier and Webb is called on to once again save the day, Then all you anti-Webb people will crow “Gee Whizz, Webb IS the one…..He isn’t so bad afterall,” huh!.

  389. By hognuts on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    DRS you are so DEPRESSING!!! Bring some good news.

  390. By DRS on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    NFL warning of sale, move adds pressure for stadium deal
    Article by: MIKE KASZUBA and MARK CRAIG , Star Tribune staff writers

    Little hope at Capitol

    Even some of the stadium’s biggest supporters were saying a public subsidy package for the stadium — at any location — is likely dead as the Legislature readies to adjourn.

    “It looks really bad right now,” said Rep. John Kriesel, R-Cottage Grove.

    In an attempt to generate some movement, Senate Minority Leader Tom Bakk said Wednesday he would be willing to put up enough DFL votes to get the stadium plan through a Senate panel where it has been stalled for weeks.

    But Bakk, the leading DFLer in the Senate, said there were no indications yet from the Republican Senate majority that the panel would reconvene. “Election-year politics obviously are getting in the way of resolving the stadium,” he said.

    The stadium subsidy package has faced long odds all spring, but the gloom surrounding the project has intensified since Monday, when a House panel surprisingly rejected the plan for a stadium in downtown Minneapolis. The state would have paid $398 million of the cost and the city of Minneapolis $150 million.

    Just one of six DFLers on the committee voted for it, and DFLers and Republican majority leaders have spent the past two days arguing over who was to blame.

    The committee voted 9-6 against the plan, with five of the GOP members favoring the bill and four against it.

    On Wednesday, Dayton again talked of a special legislative session for the stadium later this year. Last year, Dayton had wanted one before Thanksgiving. “I’d give it consideration,” he said.

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/148022185.html

  391. By DRS on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    There is alwyas Elections, so it looks like it is good by MN Vikings, so sad.

  392. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Zygi could always make money selling the team…Just like Red did when Zygi bought the team from Red himself…Red made a lot of money selling the team…So could Zygi…

    The Wilf’s want to build up this Viking team with Minnesota…Into something even more special than they are already…

    It’s not about just making the almighty quick buck…

    Zygi is not just an owner..He is a big fan of the game also…He really wants that super bowl trophy…

    Why are Mn politicians fighting more than helping him reach that goal…The Vikings are willing to front their fair share…Always have…

    Is there a lack of fan base in Minnesota ???

  393. By DRS on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    NFL warning of sale, move adds pressure for stadium deal
    Article by: MIKE KASZUBA and MARK CRAIG , Star Tribune staff writers

    Back to Arden Hills?

    On a day when no Vikings stadium proposal seemed to have traction, there was a new attempt to change the stadium location once again, this time back to Ramsey County’s Arden Hills.

    A group of DFL and Republican legislators unveiled what would be the fourth funding proposal for an Arden Hills stadium — this time calling for a suburban Ramsey County food and beverage tax that would be subject to a November referendum.

    Even that proposal appeared to be put together on the fly. One supporter, Sen. James Metzen, DFL-South St. Paul, said at a news conference that he favored adding a casino at the Arden Hills stadium site but was quickly reminded while he stood at the lectern that the latest stadium proposal didn’t include a casino.

    “We’re still alive. We’re still around,” Ramsey County Board Chairman Rafael Ortega said of the Arden Hills site.

    “It could be close, [but] we feel we could win a referendum in Ramsey County,” he said.

    The Vikings last year agreed with Ramsey County to build a $1.1 billion stadium on the site of a former ammunition plant but agreed to switch to Minneapolis when Dayton said the only way to get a public subsidy package passed at the Legislature this spring was to build in the state’s largest city.

    Vikings spokesman Lester Bagley said Wednesday that the team was trying to revive the Minneapolis stadium plan at the Capitol and wasn’t interested now in Arden Hills.

    Nor, he said, was the team interested in yet another plan that some legislators were referring to as “Plan B.”

    That proposal would authorize electronic bingo and pulltabs, along with sports-themed tip boards without addressing the stadium issue, and will go before the House Taxes Committee on Thursday night amid speculation the money could be put in a reserve fund to begin preliminary design work on a stadium.

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/148022185.html

  394. By iaVIKE on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    DeerTracks – I don’t think anyone is really saying that Webb is not an incredible athlete that has POTENTIAL to be a good QB in the nfl. But with investing in Ponder with a #1 pick like they did, they owe it to the franchise to give it time to pan out. Ponder didn’t have a bad year for a rookie QB in the NFL that was thrown in in the middle of the season and had to run for his life. Whereas Webb came in and did just that….he ran, which is what he does best, and scored a few TD’s and everyone thought he was a great QB…..not really. Did you see the last game of the 2010 season where Webb started against a Detroit team who was not all that good yet? We put up like 7 points that game. Give Ponder a full off season to work with his recievers and coaches.

  395. By hognuts on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Absolutely not a lack of fan base.

  396. By DRS on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Reusse: Pilfering team and the name: It’s L.A.’s way
    Article by: PATRICK REUSSE , Star Tribune Updated: April 19, 2012 – 6:35 AM

    Don’t rule out a similiar script if the Vikings go west as well

    Sadly, Short saw those L.A. dollars, with the new arena and huge potential audience, and soon Elgin was gone — and joined in his first California season by another No. 2 selection, guard Jerry West of West Virginia.

    L.A. took Baylor, landed West and, even worse, embraced a great Minnesota nickname.

    Five decades later, that should be a lesson to us: Not only will those slicksters steal our football team … they won’t flinch to call themselves the Los Angeles Vikings.

    Patrick Reusse can be heard noon to 4 weekdays on 1500-AM.

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/148023705.html

  397. By DRS on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Bob Sansevere: Vikings stadium makes sense with White Earth casino plan
    Pioneer Press
    twincities.com
    Posted: 04/18/2012 12:01:00 AM CDT
    April 19, 2012 4:31 AM GMTUpdated: 04/18/2012 11:31:34 PM CDT

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    LEADING OFF

    Some state legislators have put the brakes on funding for a new Vikings stadium. There is reluctance for a variety of reasons, ranging from giving money to a wealthy team owner to making a decision without input from the public via a statewide referendum.

    There appears to be a simple solution – one that wouldn’t mean reaching into state coffers or raising taxes. Somebody needs to put a call into the White Earth Ojibwe tribe members who want to give $400 million toward a new stadium in exchange for the right to build a casino in the Twin Cities. The White Earth tribe also offered to split casino revenue with the state. And to put money toward increasing the purses at Canterbury Park and Running Aces.

    It seems like such a no-brainer: The Vikings get their new stadium with no state dollars involved while the state gets a slice of a casino pie and, as a bonus, the state’s two horse-racing tracks get a financial boost.

    Unfortunately, there has been no traction for the White Earth proposal.

    Political leaders in the state have shown little interest, and that makes little sense. A White Earth-funded casino in the Twin Cities would benefit the state’s largest tribe, with 20,000 members. White Earth also is one of the state’s poorest tribes, which should be a reason for politicians to rally behind this plan.

    I have been hearing for years the state will not build its own casinos because it would affect American Indian casinos. I get that, but

    here’s the state’s largest American Indian group and one of its poorest wanting to build a casino and give money to the state, and it’s being told, “No thanks.”
    The state, by the way, could use the revenue it receives from the White Earth casino to help American Indians who are not affiliated with any casinos.

    And it could use the upfront offer of $400 million to get the Vikings stadium built.

    And yet here we are, with no stadium deal and no idea when, or if, there will be one.

    http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_20425846/bob-sansevere-vikings-stadium-makes-sense-white-earth?source=rss

  398. By DRS on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    NFL exec says Vikings’ stadium situation now `very serious’

    Posted by: Mark Craig under Vikings, NFC Updated: April 18, 2012 – 7:23 PM

    NFL Executive Vice President of Business Operations Eric Grubman

    Q: What is the league’s reaction to the news?

    Grubman: “There’s a lot of concern from the league. The ownership and league staff have been working with the Vikings and from the league’s standpoint, the Vikings have been patient, they’ve negotiated in good faith, they’ve been responsive to doing all they can do to get this resolved. It’s reached a point where there may be a stalemate. So I would say it’s very serious at this point. You have to remember this was portrayed as having support and likely to pass as recently as a couple of weeks ago when we were at the league meetings. So this will come as quite a blow. This is quite a blow.

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/blogs/148020845.html

  399. By DRS on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Well it looks like I will have to say I told you so, Minnesota can not do any thing right, the Lakers, the North Stars, now the Vikings, so sad.

  400. By DRS on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    I hope there is time to put the Arden Hills Vikings stadium back in play to get all those unemployed workers back to work, not looking good, maybe I will have to lobby for the Vikings to move to El Paso TX.

  401. By DRS on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    That should have said Arden Hills Vikings stadium plan back in play.

  402. By DeerTracks on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    laVike—Give Ponder a full off-season with the coaches and recievers? How about giving Webb the same? How about the 2011 Detroit Game? We lost because aftet Webb drove down to the 4 yard line, He was going for the win, only to have his head all but torn off by a Detroit Linebacker…WE lost that game, not by Webb, but a worthless OL—-I

  403. By Parody on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    More bad news:

    http://www.iamrogue.com/news/movie-news/item/6303-mel-gibson-talks-untitled-viking-movie-machete-sequel-and-more-at-get-the-gringo-world-premiere.html

    Is Gibson’s new movie a hint that the team will be settling in next to Hollywood in the near future?

  404. By megakrab on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe what we NEED is a change in ownership… I like the Wilfs and they have put up with a lot to keep this team where it belongs, but if they sell the team, maybe new owners would bring in new front office management… Just saying, it’s a possibility.

  405. By DeerTracks on Apr 19, 2012 | Reply

    Yes, and get rid of Frazier at the same time—-

  406. By Troutdaddy on Apr 20, 2012 | Reply

    Well, one week to go until the draft. I can’t wait. Going to be on pins and needles to see who the Vikes pick up. Starting to get worn-down by all of the stadium talk. Again, Until we hear it from the Wilf’s that the Vike’s are leaving, then I am going to remain hopeful. At this point, regardless of what happens and where the Vike’s end up, I will be a loyal fan. Home is where you hang your helmut and where you have people who truly care about your well-being. Too bad that the politicians don’t get that and it is really too bad that the fan-base could ultimately lose out on having one of the most iconic teams flee to someplace insignificant- like L.A. Pffff, like they need any more teams to corrupt out there… ,

  407. By Troutdaddy on Apr 20, 2012 | Reply

    Fact reamins that noone can give the Vikings a break. It is like they have become the red-headed step-child of the NFL. The beatings can only last for so long until you run away and become a face on a milk carton… Would be really sad to see the Vikings “Missing” from their home….Still praying for a solution… I still have hope,

  408. By Troutdaddy on Apr 20, 2012 | Reply

    Wow- look! I actually had more than one post in the same blog!!! You proud of me regulars???

  409. By Troutdaddy on Apr 20, 2012 | Reply

    Just listened to the press conference… Wow. Commissioner G. basically told em it is now or never. All I can say is that at least we are going to get a final decision and that if these publicly elected officials can’t get this thing done, then fire up the fan becuse stuff that comes from rear-ends is going to hit it HARD! The fans in Minnesota will send a clear message either way. I bleed purple… nuf said.

  410. By Fran, a vikings fan from Puerto Rico on Apr 20, 2012 | Reply

    People: read the alternatives that give FRANVIKINGS in the Message Boards today

  411. By puckertrucker on Apr 22, 2012 | Reply

    To all the Fans and Voters in Minnesota: I have watched with great anticipation that there are Congressmen/women,and Senatorial persons that don’t want the Vikings to have a new stadium. WELL I AM HERE TO SAY EVERY ONE OF THE CONSTITUENTS OF THE POLITICIANS THAT DON’T WANT THE STADIUM REMIND THEM THAT THERE IS AN ELECTION COMING UP IN NOVEMBER AND THOSE THAT VOTE AGAINST THE STADIUM ISSUE FACE LOSING THEIR JOBS COME NOVEMBER. I MEAM AFTER ALL WHO WANTS A POLITICIAN THAT DOESN’T HAVE THE STATES BEST INTERESTS AT HEART NOR THE WORKERS OR CITIZENS NEEDS AT HEART. I SAY GET RID OF THEM VOTE THEM OUT OF OFFICE, NO IFS, ANDS, OR BUTS. GET RID OF THE DEAD WIEGHT POLITICIANS NOW. The One and Only PuckerTrucker!!!!!!!!Skol Fans

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