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New Stadium Will Employ Thousands of Minnesota Construction Workers

Posted by Mike Wobschall on April 9, 2012 – 2:37 pm

With just several weeks remaining in the 2012 Legislative Session, discussions over a new stadium are continuing at the State Capitol. While much of the focus has been on the facility’s public-private financing plan, Governor Mark Dayton and many legislators view the project as an opportunity to put thousands of unemployed construction workers back on the job. Currently Minnesota’s construction industry is experiencing 20% unemployment, three times higher than the State’s overall unemployment figure. Given that building the stadium will require nearly 4.3 million work hours with almost $300 million in wages for construction workers, we can have a immediate impact on the suffering industry while building this publicly-owned State asset.

Be sure to check out the stadium video the team released today, which includes interviews from various members of Mortenson Construction, builders of both Target Field and TCF Bank Stadium. For a more in-depth look at the jobs impact of a new stadium, take a look at the following numbers:

– 13,000 jobs, including 7,500 construction jobs (three-year construction period)

Nearly 4.3 million work hours: According to Minnesota’s Department of Employment and Economic Development (DEED), unemployment in the construction trades industry is nearly 20%, three times higher than Minnesota’s overall unemployment rate.

Jobs for Minnesotans: As was the case with Target Field, over 90% of the labor and subcontract value is
expected to go back to MInnesotans.

Provisions for women and minority-owned businesses: Project goals include agreements to contract with women and minority-owned businesses as well as small business contractors throughout the State.

Nearly $300 million in wages for construction workers: Fabrication and delivery of project materials will create separate, substantial number of jobs with living wages.

Minnesota benefits from putting construction workers back to work: During the construction period, the jobs supported by this project will generate roughly $10 million in income tax revenue for the State’s General Fund and approximately $5 million for the State’s Unemployment Insurance (UI) Fund.

Work can begin almost immediately: 900,000 work hours in the first year of construction.

New stadium has lasting effects on the State economy: State of Minnesota will collect $26 million annually from Vikings-related sales and income taxes in the first year of stadium operation, according to a study by Convention, Sports & Leisure. Tax revenue will grow to approximately $61 million per year by 2045.

3,400 on-going full and part-time jobs from operation of facility: Vikings game days currently support over 2,800 jobs.


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234 Responses to “New Stadium Will Employ Thousands of Minnesota Construction Workers”

  1. By RichardA1 on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Oh, I thought the stadium just came there and put it up over night. Where is our retractable roof we were promised? Can’t wait for the Dome#2 to come up, not the outdoor one everyone wants but it will suffice.

  2. By RichardA1 on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    (Stadium Ferry)

  3. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    NOW is the time to write to your local sportswriters to
    “encourage” Rick Spielman to draft OFFENSIVE LINEMEN and DEFENSIVE BACKS in the first four rounds of the draft.

    I have already done so.

  4. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    May I remind all who write, and read here that there are 5 offensive line positions, and 4 defensive back positions plus backups.

    We have ten (10) draft picks to make. The quality players come in the first 4 rounds of the draft.

    These people make it possible to watch a “splashy” receiver in the Vikings games. No man lives on an island.

    Write your local sportswriters!!!

  5. By Rogerthevikefan on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    What about the stadium tree?

  6. By Rogerthevikefan on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Or the stadium genie?

  7. By RichardA1 on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Nothing to do with the post but…remember the wave, it goes around the stadium……why not something called a bomb or something that everybody in the first row stands then the people in back of them stand all the way to the nose bleed section, so instead of around it would go in close to out to the nosebleed section, at the same time a pict of a animated bomb exploding. Such as the ripple efect on calm water a drop of water has when dropped.

  8. By Rogerthevikefan on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Spielman and Frazier have continued to say that Fusco has shown alot of promise and he likely will be the starting LG.

  9. By RichardA1 on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Why not a giant statue of Odin the Viking God they used to have in the end zone at the met??

  10. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    :) :) :) :) :)

    Football is blocking and tackling. The other stuff can only occur if the blocking and tackling is there!
    :) :) :) :)

  11. By Rogerthevikefan on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    So if Kalil is taken the left side of the line is set. Sully should step up this year and hopfully be healthy.

  12. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    RogerTheVikeFan,

    Spielman and Frazier are old enough to remember Joe Senser who spent one year rehabbing injuries on the practice squad.

    Now they think Fusco can play?

    This is EXACTLY the attitude I have been talking about. And it makes a 3-13 team 2-14. Billy Belichick preached it to them, and they bought it hook, line, and sinker.

    We still MUST draft at least TWO OFFENSIVE LINEMEN IN THE FIRST FOUR ROUNDS!!!

  13. By Rogerthevikefan on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Kalil, Fusco, Sully, DeGeare, Loadholt likely will be the starters. With Schwartz, Love, and Berger being backups. Not sure where Brown fits in but Johnson is awful.

  14. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Sullivan is far too wimpy to play OL in the NFL.

    If you watched the films at all you would have noticed him getting PANCAKED repeatedly!!!

    We need a CENTER!!!

  15. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    @RogerTheVike,

    If that’s the line, then Joe Webb will probably get to play sooner then we thought.

    Adrian will not gain 1000 yards behind that makeshift line!

  16. By Rogerthevikefan on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    I know the RT needs improved but that last time I suggested the replacment of Loadholt I got my head bit off. The Tackles need move improvment then any other position on Offence.

  17. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    THERE ISN’T ONE GUY ON LAST YEAR’S OFFENSIVE LINE THAT SHOULD START THIS YEAR!!!

    THAT IS UNLESS THEY HAVE PULLED A “HERSCHEL WALKER” AND ACTUALLY WORKED OUT DURING THE OFF SEASON!!!

  18. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Leave it to Wobbs to start a new blog when annoying ol’ GDP makes an appearance

  19. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Drafting based on best player available (BPA) got us players like:
    Randy Moss, Adrian Peterson, Percy Harvin, Kyle Rudolph, Everson Griffen, Joe Webb.

    We drafted Chris*tian Ponder based on need when we could have gotten our LT of the future in Nate Soldier or Mike Pouncy who is capable of playing center and both guard positions.

    How long will it take everyone to realize that by drafting the BPA you are filling your roster with the best player possible through the draft. Can drafting on need work? Yes it can but why dont you ask the guys who drafted Troy Williamson, Erasmus James, and Tavaris Jackson?

    It seems to me that taking BPA has worked more for us than going off need has.

    Spielman’s plan should be very simple. Trade back to acquire as many picks as possible, and take the Best Player Available with the picks you have. You want talent and depth on the roster? Thats how you do it.

  20. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Obviously what I mean when i say BPA is if the best player available is a QB or RB or TE. We MUST take him.

    Yeah thats truly what I mean.

  21. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    By the way Ron Yary was a RIGHT TACKLE.

    The difference between the left tackle and the right tackle is a media conspiracy to promote “It’s all about the Quarterback.”

    The facts are you need 5 decent offensive linemen to make it work.

    The Vikings only had one last year, Hutchinson, and he is gone.

    But they can workout. They can study their position,etc. Human nature is that they will not do this.

    DRAFT and OBTAIN young NFL caliber linemen!

  22. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Dont listen to this GrandDaddyPurp guy. He knows nothing of football.

  23. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    To be a championship team, its not all about the starters. You need DEPTH.

  24. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Fred- all these “expert’s” mock drafts only have 1 guard being drafted in the first round. Meaning there will be some really good guards available to us in the 2nd.

  25. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    But GDP, we need receivers!

  26. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    But GDP, we dont need DL and OL

  27. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Well my fellow GDPs, DL and OL are the two most important parts of the game. Thats where the play starts and you dont have to look any further than the line to determine how the play will pan out

  28. By Spencer on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    GDP- Why should we draft a DT in the 2nd round?

  29. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Its not that we should draft a DT in the second. Its that if a certain DT falls to us who had no business falling out of the 1st round, we should take him without hesitation.

  30. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Kevin Williams may one of the top DTs in the league, But for how long can we depend on him?

  31. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    I must retire for the time being. If i stay on any longer Wobbs will start a new blog.

  32. By Countdown to Draft on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    17 DAYS

  33. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    B

  34. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    P

  35. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    A

  36. By PurplHaze on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    We let Pat Williams go WAY TOO EARLY. And, whether you’re willing to admit it or not, he is the reason we gave up so many passing AND rushing yards last season!

  37. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Thats why Devon Still would be perfect for us. Pat Williams left a hole that has yet to be filled

  38. By PurplHaze on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Where’s Still projected to be drafted, GDP?

  39. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Forget the Williams Wall. Im ready for Kevin and Devon

  40. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Originally Top 10, Until Dontari Poe and a couple others had an amazing combine. Post combine mocks had the Patriots taking him with the 31st pick. Latest mocks dont have him going in 1st round at all

  41. By PurplHaze on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    I used to love me some post-play Budda Belly Rubs! =)

  42. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Guys like Dontari Poe and Stephen Hill are reasons why guys like Devon Still will fall to us

  43. By PurplHaze on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    *Buddha

  44. By PurplHaze on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    GDP … DEVON STILL IS A BEAST! He would be a good choice. Good combo of speed and strength. He’d REQUIRE double teams, and I’m not convinced that would stop him.

  45. By RichardA1 on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    uh huh, joe web is the best athlete on the team, I heard that 10 times, yet, they do not play him, does that make sense? best athlete and he does not get play time, stupid.

  46. By Saddy on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings jet spotted in Baltimore Ravens….Is Baltimore Ravens trying to trade up?

  47. By KoN on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    GDP, BPA works great for teams with only a few holes or teams that are at least average in every position. However, on a team like the vikes who have so many holes to fill you Must draft for need in at least thefirst three or four rounds. We probably cannot afford to take an RB or a QB or a TE or a DE in the fiirst four rounds and definetely not in the first three.

  48. By Spencer on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Well I’ll be darned! PERCY HARVIN ATTACKED HIS COACH IN COLLEGE!!!!!!!

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8282f40c/article/harvin-reportedly-threw-college-assistant-to-ground?module=HP11_headline_stack

  49. By Spencer on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    So now we hate him to right? I mean, you guys all preach character over everything, right?

  50. By Spencer on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Ugh, I meant “So now we hate him, right?”

  51. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Of course we are NOT going to take a QB, RB, or TE if he is the best player available. Thats just common sense. as for a DE. We could always use another talented pass rusher. A fresh DE coming in to spell one who has been working hard. A good DLine rotation can make a HUGE difference. Look at the Giants. Did they really ‘need’ to draft Jason Pierre-Paul in the first round when they already had two pro bowl ends in Tuck and Osi? They took him because he was the BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE. Look whose laughing now.

  52. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Did the Vikings ‘need’ to take Adrian Peterson in the first round when they already had a back who rushed for 1300+ yards?

  53. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Did the Packers ‘need’ to take Aaron Rodgers when they already had Brett Favre?

  54. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    If we dont draft Kyle Rudolph then we are stuck with an overpaid Shaincoe. Thank BPA for that

  55. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Did we ‘need’ Troy Williamson? Yes. Look who isnt laughing now –> :(

  56. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    I sure would have loved to have had Nate Soldier or Mike Pouncy. Nope, because of need we get Chris Ponder. Did I mention I hate drafting on need? look who isnt laughing now —–> :(

  57. By RichardA1 on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Just a note..Vikes Jet seen in Baltimore, why is it there? Ravens trading up?

  58. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe if Ravens Jet was seen in Minny i would say they are trading up. Maybe we are trying to trade up to late first round?

  59. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE

  60. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE

  61. By Spencer on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    A DT in the 2nd round GDP?

  62. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    This time will come Spencer

  63. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    If only you all knew what i am sayin

  64. By PurplHaze on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer – Character IS important, but some people learn from their mistakes. Maybe staff was convinced, having confronted Percy about the situation, that he’d learned from the bad decision he’d made. That too is possible.

    Bottom line … Give a second chance when you truly believe one is deserved.

  65. By bauln on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Los Angeles needs the jobs more than Minnisota

  66. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    LA has enough Pro Sports teams

  67. By bauln on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    THEY COULD USE ONE MORE

  68. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    If LA has fans stopid enough to invest in worthless stocks ??…Ask the Packers to LA…

  69. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    *stupid

  70. By KoN on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    If LA wants a football team, it should start its own. California has stolen enough professional sports teams from other cities.

  71. By Spencer on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

  72. By Mike B. on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Take Kalil that’s the best pick

  73. By Spencer on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    It should be the only pick Mike. Hopefully Spielmen realizes that.

  74. By PurplHaze on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    I’m with Mike and Spencer on the #3! =)

  75. By PAUL M. on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    @ FREDERICK JONES:

    GOOD TO SEE THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE SOME FOOTBALL SENSE…

    VIKINGS ARE PLAYING MONEY BALL, & THAT ONLY WORKS IF ONLY A FEW HAVE THE FORMULA… CAT’S OUT OF THE BAG & EVERYONE MORE/ LESS IS DOING THE SAME THING!

    THAT LEAVES US WITH THE MOST IMPORTANT FORMULA OF ALL — THE FACT THAT THE ODDS ARE OVERWHELMINGLY AGAINST MIDDLE & LATE ROUND DRAFT PICKS MAKING EVEN A PRACTICE SQUAD, LET ALONE THE DRAFT THAT YOU FEEL FROM VIKINGS PR PEOPLE AS YOU SQUAT!

    VIKINGS FREE AGENTS ACQUISITIONS HAVE BEEN UNDERWHELMING.

    THIS SEASON’S RECORD? IT’S GOING TO BE HARD TO BREAK 5 WINS. ERIN HENDERSON AS A STARTER? GIVE ME A BREAK!

    OUR PRIORITIES SHOULD BE FIRST O-LINE, CB’s & D-LINE.

    ASK MANNING – OR ANY TALENTED CB OR O – PLAYER WHAT TEAMS THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO TO (IF THEY PAY) & THEY’LL TELL YOU ABOUT A TEAM THAT HAS A GREAT FRONT LINE… IT MAKES THE WR’s; CB’s; QB’S; HB’S — JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY’S JOB SO MUCH EASIER!

  76. By hognuts on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Is anyone else more excited about our 2nd round pick than our 1st round pick? Since we will most likely get Kalil, and in the 2nd who knows?

  77. By DRS on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Sen. Miller’s bill funds state’s portion of new Vikings stadium (04/08/2012)

    By Emily Buss

    District 31 Sen. Jeremy Miller announced Thursday he is sponsoring a bill that will fund the entire state’s portion of the proposed new Vikings stadium.
    Miller said in a press conference at the State Capitol he will join with Erma Vizenor, Chairwoman of the White Earth Tribe, to promote the bill, known as MinnesotaWins, that will finance the facility’s development and construction costs of the state’s portion with an upfront payment of $400 million.

    In exchange for the money, Minnesota would then regulate and audit a new Twin Cities-area casino operated by the White Earth Tribe. This “unique partnership” would provide a 50-50 revenue split between the tribe and the state.

    “When I’m traveling across the district I represent in Southeastern Minnesota, the issue that comes up by far more than any other issue is the new Vikings stadium,” Miller said. “I agree that it’s time to get something done, and I’m extremely excited about this idea.”

    Miller said the deal is the most financially sound and economically feasible plan for Minnesota taxpayers. He also said there is a possibility for job creation and the economic stimulus created by the casino could potentially help provide for the White Earth Tribe, Minnesota’s largest and economically poorest tribe.

    The tribe, which has more than 20,000 members, said their share of the net revenue generated from this bill would help build more reliable housing, schools, community clinics and other improvements that would boost both the metro and northwestern Minnesota’s economy.

    “This $700 million construction project, for which White Earth has already been approved for financing, would create an estimated 2,500 jobs during the construction phase and an estimated 2,600 full-time jobs after completion,” Miller said. “When combined with a new Vikings stadium, we would have approximately $1.7 billion of construction between the two projects and well over 5,000 jobs during the construction phases.”

    Copyright © 2012, Winona Post, All Rights Reserved.

    http://winonapost.com/stock/functions/VDG_Pub/detail.php?choice=47106&home_page=1&PHPSESSID=1494dd539fa8e9e3c95e03d261eeaa87

    ——————————————————————————————————–

    In my opinion, this is the best stadium plan yet put forth.

  78. By DRS on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Hay, all you union people out there, do you not think it is time to get behind Sen. Miller’s bill? Look at all them union job’s, well over 5,000 jobs during the construction phases, Why not get on the Governor, and the legislatures A-S-S-E-S, and get your jobs this year?

  79. By 61Vikings on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    @GDP
    Great points on your blog about the Giants D-line and drafting JP-P!! They didn’t need him but they drafted him anyway, and now have the best D-line in the NFL!!! We have so many needs on this team, but if the best available player is a DE or DT, we need to take him!!

  80. By DRS on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Are the unions and the people in the government trying to keep the union members unemployed for some reason? Here is a chance to put a lot of your people back to work, should you not get behind this bill, heat up the phone lines of your reps, occupy their buildings, get your voices heard and soon.

  81. By KoN on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    61Vikings, while it is true that the Giants didn’t need Pierre-Paul in the 2010 draft, they were also an 8-8 team in 2009 meaning they had much fewer needs than this 3-13 team. After the fourth round, if the best player is a DE then sure, take him. But we had better not consider DE, RB, TE, or QB before the fifth round or it will be a huge mistake.

  82. By DRS on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn, where is your voice on this issue?

  83. By DRS on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Well I must get going, here is to a new stadium in MN, and not in LA.

  84. By Shawn on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer … The only thing I got from that article about PercyHarvin is Chilly got lucky :)

  85. By 61Vikings on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    @hognuts
    Couldn’t agree with you more!! Look for the Vikes to take BPA in the positions of WR or CB!!

  86. By DRS on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

  87. By DRS on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Go Vikings!!!!!

  88. By Shawn on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    DRS … You know Im all for any deal that keeps the Vikings in MN. Most major construction jobs are Union. So I have no doubt the new stadium will be Union built. What some people dont realize is that Unions set the wage and safety for everyone. When you attack unions you are attacking everyone.

    As a Union member I can tell my “Boss” … NO. Not untill you provide me with the proper safety equipment. I can not be fired for demanding proper safety.

    If some politicians get rid of Unions … then private companies wont have to compete with Unions and wages will fall and safety will fall.

  89. By Spencer on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Percy Harvin is a thug.

  90. By DRS on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn, do you not think that the plan that Sen. Miller is putting out is a great plan and the unions should back it?

  91. By Spencer on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    He attacked his coach at Florida, then almost did the same with Chilly. Why is there no uproar from the Viking Faithful????

  92. By DRS on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn, I am not attacking any unions this time, I want them to get their voices behind this plan so that the Vikings can get a new home and the workers can get to work.

  93. By 61Vikings on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    @kon
    If a player of that stature is available, I don’t care what position he plays, you draft him!! I agree on 3 positions not to draft early on, and that’s QB,RB and TE!! DE and DT are a position of need!! Jared Allen is the only all-pro on our D-line!! When rebuilding your team, you always draft 2 O-linemen and 2 D-linemen!! The foundation of every team, is their OL and their DL!!

  94. By hognuts on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    @Spencer

    Chilly blows that’s why.
    Obviously the Florida coach had it coming.
    Go Percy!

  95. By DRS on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn, you know I have my reasons for not liking Unions. I know unions do good things for their workers and I feel Sen. Miller’s bill will fund the state’s portion of the new Vikings stadium. I feel the Unions should get behind this bill so that a whole lot of people can go back to work this year.

  96. By DRS on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Good night everyone, have fun.

  97. By PurplHaze on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    I think we’re fine at DE until next season. We won’t have lost any, and Robison is doing a fine job on the other side. So how do you feel DE is a position of need foe the Vikes?

    We need to take WR/DB/DT with 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks. Not in that order, but based on BPA theory.

    What Vikes fan today is sad about Chilly getting an ear full of Percy? Anybody? I didn’t think so. There’s a reason why nobody wants to talk about Percys college outburst after he’s been away from that environment for so long. Do you know what the Coach did? Not saying Percys right, but maybe he’s not completely wrong either? And, why even bring it up NOW?

  98. By PurplHaze on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    *for

  99. By Spencer on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Percy Harvins resume

    Failed a Drug test at the Combine( Smoking weed)

    Attacked one of his coaches at Florida( What a thug)

    Was extremely close to beating the living he|| out of Chilly.(Im speechless)

    Is Percy a character guy? No, not all.

    Chris Cooks resume

    Brandishing a gun during an argument with a neighbor, but Cook said “There was no gun involved at all.” So I have no choice but to believe him. No harm, no foul.

    Accused of choking his girlfriend, but was found innocent. The girl also said Cook did not partake in any strangulation. And I believe her.

    Is Cook a character guy? Yes.
    Hes just always at the wrong place, at the wrong time.

  100. By Shawn on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    DRS … I hear ya. Yes Unions have been in the capitol expressing their desires. I agree there may be some poorly run or organized Unions (I havent had that experiance) … We vote for our Union “leaders”

  101. By Percy Harvin 12 on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    @Spencer
    With a name like Spencer, being called a thug is a F ing joke. Isn’t it past your bed time. Shouldn’t your mommy and daddy have already unpluged your computer for the night. Go to bed and make sure Chris Cook is there to tuck you in, after all, he is your hero!! He’s the real thug on this team.

  102. By Shawn on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Percy is my 3rd favorite Viking WR of all time …

    C.Carter
    Moss
    Harvin
    A.Carter
    Reed

    1985 were my first football memories

  103. By Spencer on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Hes one of my favorites too, im just trying to prove a point. You guys dont care what a player does off the field either, I just dont get why you all dont admit it..

  104. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Who said DE is a position of need? I simply stated if the best player available is a DE we should take him. To quote the great Bill Belichick, “You can never have enough pass rushers.”

    Yeah that guy knows nothing about football.

  105. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Who called Cook and/or Harvin a thug? Is this a F*cking joke?

  106. By Spencer on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    C’mon on GDP..a DE in the 2nd round round? Just stop..

  107. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    I never said 2nd round where did you get that from?

  108. By KoN on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, you’re being unfair on Harvin’s resume, i know you’re just trying to prove a point but still.

    Harvin
    Failed a drug test at the combine (smoking weed)-no problems have been brought up since so I have to assume he’s clean. Also, whereas many use weed for recreational purposes, it is entirely possible that he was using it to medicate the severe migraines that he suffers from.

    Attacked a coach- in the article you posted the coach that was attacked said “I think it’s a little overblown.”

    Got in a heated argument with Chilly- Chilly got mad at Harvin for supposedly embellishing his injury after he sprained it a week before, therefore Chilly started the argument with a ridiculous claim and Harvin had a right to be mad.

    Is Harvin a character guy: Before the draft: probably not. Now: yes

  109. By hognuts on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Belichick knows a lot about football. You know nothing.

  110. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    I forgot its hard to sound sarcastic through writing

  111. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Belichick is a terrible coach

  112. By 61Vikings on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Percy Harvin is one bad a$$ mofo!! Extension should be in line soon!! He’s one of the best players on this team!!

  113. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    I wasnt going to talk about Percy because i didnt think it was a big deal so I’ll tell you what I think.

    ITS NOT A BIG DEAL. IF IT WAS HE WOULD HAVE BEEN DISCIPLINED FOR IT. WAS HE???? GET OFF THE SUBJECT

  114. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    We signed 2 CBs so far. How is Safety not a bigger need than CB? Get real people

  115. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Hognuts- ………….

  116. By Spencer on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Percy has shoulder surgery tomorrow. He should be ready to go by OTAs.

  117. By Mike B. on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Kalil first pick

  118. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Kalil third pick

  119. By tdurfeightyeight on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    3 years of construction really??? but before that happens you can add 3 more years of legeslative b.s. and by 2018…What a joke? L.A. Vikings and L.A. Lakers…same colors and everything.

  120. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    overall

  121. By Mike B. on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    What Percy did before entering the NFL shouldn’t effect what is going on now. Why bring up stuff from 3 years ago now.

  122. By 61Vikings on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    @GDP
    The Patriots have no pass rushers!! Their D-line is the weak link on their team!! They tried to trade for Jared Allen last year but the Vikes wouldn’t bite!! Wouldn’t be surprised if they called the Vikes on draft day to try and make that trade again!!

  123. By Mike B. on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Bad Move 61Vikings we need Jared’s leadership on this team. We are going to have too many rookies and not enough vets.

  124. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Their D-line is the weak link?

  125. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Their DLine kept them in the superbowl

  126. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    I cant wait to see Chris Cook this season

  127. By Mike B. on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    hopefully he can tackle better

  128. By 61Vikings on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    I’m on the east coast, time for bed!! The later it gets the more senile people get!! Good night Viking fans!! One things for sure that we all have in common, we love our Vikes!!

  129. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    @Paul M.,

    It goes to show you…

    Common sense isn’t common!

    You can go to almost any Fortune 500 company and find the same kind of foolishness that exists among many of our fans.

  130. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Hopefully our other CBs can actually cover someone

  131. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Spielman may gamble and win this time.

    Then again Minnesota is not New York City!!!

  132. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    It really is sad

  133. By 61Vikings on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    @Mike B.
    I didn’t say trade JA!! We need him on this team!! The Patriots acquired about JA last year and the Vikes said no!!

  134. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Fred you never answered my question

  135. By hognuts on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    What do you want GDP? I don’t think that getting the best player available for a 3-13 team will help at all. We have too many holes to fill. What if we get the best player available in the 2nd round and he turns out to be a DE, we could use a WR/CB/Safety/OL/LB way more. Doesn’t make any sense. Good thing the Vikings didn’t sign you as the GM.

  136. By 61Vikings on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    @GDP
    Name one player on their D-line!! I can’t, but then again, I don’t follow the Pats!! No all-pros, that’s for sure!!

  137. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Vince Wilfork. The best nose tackle in the NFL hands down.

  138. By hognuts on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Vince Wilfork, 4x Pro Bowler, 4x Second team All-Pro

  139. By hognuts on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Boom! Roasted!

  140. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    If the Vikings have an RB that can run a 40 in 4.9, but the O line is a great one, doesn’t he make lots of yardage anyway?

    It ain’t high school where a 220 pound Herschel Walker can run over Defensive Linemen!

    If the Vikings have a 6’0″ 190′ QB, with a great line, couldn’t he look like Aaron Rodgers. Why not? His receivers have time to get open. The QB has time to roll left or right to find the receivers.

    Why did Marinovich and Russell have so much trouble making it in the NFL?
    Could it have been d Offensive Line?

    Is it possible that the man who fathered Eli Manning and Peyton Manning was actually as great a quarterback? Perhaps Archie did not have d Offensive Line?

    These are important questions as we enter the draft without any conceivable offensive line or defensive backfield.

  141. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    GDP,

    What was your question?

  142. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    GDP,

    What was your question??

  143. By 61Vikings on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    @GDP
    Kept them in it to lose!! Pats D was not good at all last year!! I know they don’t want to see the G-Men again in the Superbowl!!

  144. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    How will not drafting the BEST, i repeat BEST, player available help us? You want to draft the most mediocre player? Just because a player fills a need does it automatically mean he will be successful? You all make it sound so easy. He fills a need and we are set for the next decade at that position. I would rather have a backup you know will come in and play lights out whenever he gets a chance than a player we drafted because there was a hole we needed filled.

    CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS ARE NOT JUST ABOUT THE STARTERS. YOU NEED DEPTH. YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT EVERYONE ON THE ROSTER IS CAPABLE OF DOING THEIR JOB WHEN THE TIME COMES.

    Look at GB. How many starters did they lose the year they won the superbowl? If we lost half that many starters we wouldnt win a single game. Because we have no depth. We have a bunch of players on the roster we drafted because there was a need at a certain position. Would you trust them if our starters went down and they had to come in? BPA will not help this team? Who are you trying to fool?

  145. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry Fred- What do you think of drafting DT Devon Still if he is there for us with the 35th pick?

  146. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    hognuts- all I’m trying to say is BPA fills your roster with talent. Last time I checked we could use all the talent we can get. Whether that talent are the starters or bench players, we need talent. Drafting on need has not gotten us as far as you may think it has.

  147. By hognuts on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    I know you need depth, but when you are 3-13, you need to try to get capable starters before building depth.

  148. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    61Vikings- We got blown out of the 4 superbowls we were in.

  149. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Do you really think our roster reflects our record? Because I dont think we are that bad.

  150. By 61Vikings on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    It must be the offseason, I can’t believe I forgot about Vince Wilfork!! Sorry, that was pathetic on my behalf, but one DT does not make a good or great D-line, same with the Vikes and JA!! One great D-lineman isn’t good enough!! We need more!! Hoping Kevin Williams can turn it around this year after a injury plagued and suspended for 3 games season!!

  151. By Spencer on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Look GDP, in the 2nd round we need to draft based on need, period. Youre really starting to annoy me..

  152. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    In a 3-4 defense one DLineman makes 33.333333% of your whole DLine. So he makes a bigger impact on that unit than Kevin Williams does for us. Just saying

  153. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    So your okay that we took Chris*tian Ponder over Nate Soldier and Mike Pouncy?

  154. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Yes or No?

  155. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Of course I’m wrong

  156. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer- whose your 2nd round pick?

  157. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    I’m done with BPA. No1 appreciates what it has gotten us.

  158. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer- 35th pick who do you take?

  159. By 61Vikings on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Kevin Williams has been to 3-4 pro bowls himself, not bad!!

  160. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    61Vikings who is your 2nd round pick

  161. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer- I may have taken your place as the most hated person on this blog.

  162. By 61Vikings on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    @GDP
    I would like to see Brian Quick or Stephon Gilmore!! Gotta go to bed, the wifes calling!!

  163. By KoN on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    GDP, don’t get me wrong, I think BPA works great for teams who are pretty good in most areas or only have a few holes and need a couple of good players to get over the hump. it has worked great for the Vikes in the past. However, we are now in rebuilding mode and BPA cannot be used for the first four picks, after that sure, but not before. We don’t need an infusion of talent so much as we need an infusion of talent n certain spots. If Trent Richardson fell to 35 that would be amazing, but the truth is that he would never help this team as much as Harrison Smith or Alshon Jeffery would. We have a great amount of talent/potential at a few key positions but there are other key positions that have almost none so we NEED to fill those holes.

  164. By hognuts on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    The verdict is not out on Ponder yet, GDP. He was a rookie with no line and no WR’s last year. Peyton Manning didn’t have a great rookie year. You’re entitled to your own opinion. I’m entitled to my own opinion. The only opinion that counts is Spielman’s.

  165. By KoN on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Should’ve read ” …we don’t need an infusion of talent overall…”

  166. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    @GDP,

    I would be against drafting Stills in the 2nd Round because will still need DBs and OLs. DESPERATELY!!!

  167. By hognuts on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    and WR’s Fred

  168. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    With a class that has so much depth at WR and CB. I think we can get away with not picking one of those positions in the 2nd.

  169. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    @GDP,

    First: Nobody knows what drafting the BPA means
    Second: It never helps to have an unbalanced roster. Having 5 great RBs doesn’t help you much if none of your DBs can cover little old ladies.
    Third: BPA could mean picking the BPA for the position you need most.
    Fourth: Why would I pick a TE when I need a Center? A TE can’t play Center, and having a good TE probably won’t make my current Center better.
    Fifth: You are young, but I have thought many of your posts have made a lot of sense.
    Sixth: That was Bud Grant’s formula, pick some guys who will be around and be able to play well for a decade. He wrote about it in a book I recently read. It was also in at least one Vikings yearbook. He admired durability in a player.

  170. By hognuts on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    You’re really high on Devin Still, huh GDP?

  171. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    @Hognuts,

    We need some Hognuts like the Redskins had a few years back.

  172. By hognuts on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Does Kalil count as one?

  173. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Fred- Ive said before draft BPA as long as its not a RB TE and QB. That was my original take and as much as i talk about BPA, everyone still thinks im talking about drafting a RB or QB or TE if he is the bpa when that is not at all what I am talking about.

  174. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    @Hognuts,

    Yes, Kalil could be a Hognut.

    Peyton Manning threw for 3739 yards and 26 TDs his rookie year. He did that with a team that was 3-13.

    I don’t think Peyton Manning has ever had a bad year.

  175. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    hognuts- I just think his stock fell for all the wrong reasons when Dontari Poe’s stock rose for all the wrong reasons. Fact is when you turn on the game film there is no comparison.

  176. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    @GDP,

    BPA means different things to different people.

    I am glad you are against getting more QBs, RBs, and TEs.
    (We are never against a free tryout, of course.)

    Using the moniker BPA confuses people. I’m going to avoid using it.

  177. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Poe weighs 360 as a college player. What will he weigh in at after he smell NFL money?

    400?
    500?

    Then we are talking injuries, disease, etc.

  178. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Remember to write your local sportswriters.

  179. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    “Encourage” Spielman!

  180. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    The fact that i go to Penn State has some influence on why i want us to take Still. I cant deny that

  181. By vikesfan12 on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    LT WR CB S LB K BPA in the positions of need!

  182. By hognuts on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    Manning started the whole year, Ponder started only half. He had 13 touchdowns and 13 INT’s. Manning had 26 touchdowns and 28 INT’s. Completion % was around the same. Now don’t get me wrong, I am not saying Ponder will ever be like Manning, but you have to give him some time to figure the NFL out.

  183. By Woodboat on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    I think that the BPA concept only works if you are willing to trade down. If the BPA doesn’t fill a need for your team, you might consider trading down a few slots to pick up a few guys that DO fill your needs.

    In general, though, BPA is garbage. Reaching for a need is stupid, but BPA is worse.

  184. By Woodboat on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    @ Frederick and rogertheviking…

    Couldn’t agree more…. O Line and Defensive Backs above all else. Kalil first, then BPA in those two areas. Loadholt needs to get moved inside if he’s going to keep his job…. way too slow to play the edge.

  185. By Parody on Apr 9, 2012 | Reply

    BPA is just too loose of a term. If the team truly has no need for a guy who significantly outranks everyone else who’s available, then BPA can mean TRADE DOWN.

    Let’s say the BPA is Trent Richardson in the second round. He’s obviously not a player that will be of much value to a team that already has AP and Gerhart on the roster. But he’ll be HUGE value to other teams. So you trade for additional picks and get a BETTER BPA for the team.

    Then again, if that BPA is an OLB, why not take the pick? We have two good OLBs on the team already – they were rated #22 and #19 in the NFL earlier today – but one of them only signed a year-long contract. Why not see if we can get an upgrade before he’s gone? It’s not as big of a need as safety currently is, but it will prove to be a valuable pick in less than a year if the player really is the standout BPA.

  186. By KoN on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    I would still hesitate to take an OLB at #35 with all of the needs on this team. Even the best OLB in this draft will probably not do as much for our team in the long run as Smith or Jeffery would. Now if you’re talking MLB and you’ve got Kuechly or Hightower, then I’d take it, but not for an OLB.

  187. By chrisbreezy on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    i think vikings should consider signing brian quick with 3rd pick and chris rainey with one of their 4th pick.brian quick [6’4, 220, 4.5 in 40-dash].and everyone knows how fast,quick,and profound threat chris rainey is.

  188. By DRS on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    Mpls. City Council schedules April 24 hearing on Vikings stadium
    Posted by: Eric Roper Updated: April 9, 2012 – 6:28 PM

    Mayor R.T. Rybak is holding his first Vikings stadium forum tomorrow, but opponents on the Council are gearing up for a public hearing at City Hall.

    Council Member Gary Schiff announced in a newsletter Monday that a public hearing will be held on April 24. It will include a key vote on whether the Council endorses redirecting convention center taxes to fund a stadium as a legislative priority.

    Rybak has taken his proposal to the Council’s Committee of the Whole twice, but not since the bill was introduced at the State Capitol. Neither of the previous hearings included a vote or public testimony.

    Schiff said each speaker will have two minutes to testify before the Intergovernmental Relations Subcommittee, which includes all members of the Council.

    The committee will then decide whether to amend the city’s lobbying agenda to include formal support for the plan. That will be the first test of whether Rybak’s seven letters of support translate into seven votes. Passage would also allow the city’s lobbyists to advocate for the plan at the State Capitol.

    Schiff and Council Member Lisa Goodman, both opponents of the mayor’s plan, first pushed for the hearing last month. It will be held from 4 to 6:30 p.m. in room 317 of City Hall.

    The mayor’s public forum tomorrow night is slated to run from 7:30 to 8:45 at the Lake Nokomis Community Center

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/146735695.html

  189. By DRS on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    I hope that all the Minnesota Vikings fans that live in the Minneapolis and ST. Paul area will show up at the mayor’s public forum today and give support for the stadium issue.

  190. By DRS on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    Rand: When will Minnesota teams be playoff-worthy again?

    Updated: April 9, 2012 – 11:35 AM

    The Twin Cities four major pro teams all are a non-factor when it comes to the playoffs. A look at when this might change

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/146611395.html

  191. By Spencer on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    GDP- I think we should draft either a WR, or SS. And there is a big difference between drafting a need, and “reaching.” Ponder was a need, but he was also a reach. So yes, I dont think it was best to draft him in the 1st round when we could have easily got him in the 2nd.

  192. By DRS on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    Poll: Which struggling team will be the next to make the playoffs?

    Results# of votes % of votes

    Twins 253 8%

    Vikings 475 16%

    Wild 532 18%

    Wolves 1747 58%

    Total Votes 3007

    http://www.startribune.com/polls/146655215.html?mr=1&oid=1&pid=146655215&vote.x=18&cid=8500397&vote.y=11

  193. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    The Eagles have expressed interest in using an early draft pick on getting a QB to groom into a starter after the Kolb trade…And to help back up the fragile and over 30 yr old Vick…The Eagles must not feel Kafka is the future…

    So if the Eagles are looking to use a second round pick on a QB…Why not use that pick on a more physical version of Vick…A QB that is just as fast and mobile and can throw the ball just as far…But a QB more durable than Vick…

    Why not trade that #51 pick to the Vikings on draft day for a player to be named later……

    .And that player being J Webb ???

    Do you guys think that would be a solid trade for both teams involved ??…

    Ponder is the Vikings future…And have a quality back up in Sage…

  194. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    Last year Shanahan dropped down in the draft and let B Gabbert get picked..Because they wanted Ponder…And thought the Vikings would not take Ponder so high in the draft…

    Shanny was dead wrong !!…And the Vikings pulled the trigger…Out smarting Shanahan…

    The Redskins are now this season giving up their entire future to get RG III to make up for the mistake they made in not taking Ponder last spring…

    So taking all that into consideration…Was taking Ponder a reach ??…

    If the Vikings take Kalil and protect Ponder…And give him another solid receiver to throw too…With what we have already for a running game…

    Fans will no longer think Ponder might have been a reach in last years draft…But instead a STEAL….Ponder is going to be good if protected…
    REAL GOOD…

  195. By Parody on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    OTK – If the Eagles show interest, I would think our #2 and Webb should be enough for their #1. That would put us in a great position to draft a WR like Floyd after already grabbing Kalil. Then the rest of the draft can focus on Defense. It sounds too good to be true, so probably not gonna happen.

  196. By Mike B. on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    @OTK That’s not a bad idea trading Webb, but not make a deal on Samuel/Webb Deal. This is assuming that Webb wants to leave MN. If he wants to remain a backup then we should keep him.

  197. By Mike B. on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    but why not

  198. By Mike B. on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    @Parody I don’t think you will get a first round pick for a 2nd string QB.

  199. By Parody on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B – I didn’t suggest we would. I was saying use our second round pick with Webb in order to trade up. Webb might not be enough to go from #35 to #15, but if the Eagles are seriously considering a young backup to eventually take over for Vick, they may be willing to take the offer.

  200. By SAN JO VIKE!! on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    BLACKMON-STER #81 LET’S GO VIKINGS!!!!

  201. By RichardA1 on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    Joe Webb, does this prove you don’t need to draft the best athlete available? he is suppose to be the best athlete, has he done anything for the team? no, he has played very little, got a few good reviews, and thats it, he does nothing, maybe a play or two a game, for god sakes trade him for a defensive back or anything. It is very nice he is capable of playing many different positions, unfortunatly the Vikes can’t find a position for him, he does us no good, “TRADE”…..

  202. By Parody on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    Kevin Kolb and Matt Cassell both rewarded their teams with more trade value than they were worth. Who’s to say that Webb can’t earn us more than he’s worth too?

  203. By RichardA1 on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    Bring back that Purple people defense, other teams were afraid to play them. Bring back Odin, the 30ft Vikings statue they had in the end zone. Bring back discpline, enough of players hiding cell phones somewhere on there uniform and calling home after they score. I say draft all defense, or trade for defense, were going no where without a defense.

  204. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    Its just what are the Vikings plans for Webb ??…If they plan on keeping him…Why the Sage signing ??…If Webb does stay and starts 2-3 games for the Vikings this coming season…And does very well again…Webb becomes to expensive for the Vikings to talk a contract extension too…With already having their franchise QB in Ponder…Contract issues become a more of a problem if Webb does well…If he doesn’t do well…The team loses leverage in trade talk scenarios later on…Why not get the most of his good season last year…

    Vikings have no plans in the least of using Webb at WR or any other position on the field except QB…

    So the only thing that makes sense is to either talk to Webb and see if he wants to stay in Mn as the back up in the future…Or trade him him to a team like the Eagles for them to groom too replace an older veteran like Vick….

    Or just get nothing for him a year down the road…Why not get a solid second round pick for Webb now…I am not expecting a first round pick (of any combination of draft picks) for Webb from the Eagles…But Webb is worth a second rounder…And the Vikings could do a lot with another second round pick also this spring to fill needs…Seeing as Sage is a capable back up already for Ponder…

    This is a trade that has big advantages for both sides…

  205. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    The Vikings have a hard time thinking of ways to use Webb in ball games..

    Give Andy Reid a chance to use Webb…I don’t think there will be much of a chance Reid using Webb in football games as a problem…

    Reid would love to use a guy like Webb with his mobility and style…Not just put Webb in for a few plays a game like Frazier does…Because he thinks he has too…

    It might be whats best for Webb and the Vikings…

  206. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    Anyone an E S P N blog member ??…Kiper has out his first mock draft out with him predicting second round picks…Wondering which position Kiper thinks the Vikes will go in the second round ??

  207. By Mike B. on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    @OTK Webb is the #2 QB as it stands right now. His accuracy issues and he is too quick to use the option keeps him from being a #1 QB. It is really up to him if he wants to start or become a starter. He will ask for a trade. I agree though having Sage as the #3 QB seems to be a waste of cap space.

  208. By sappershep on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    How is it going to be costing more to build yet there won’t be a retractable roof? For heavens sake change the name of the field it sounds like a stadium in China.
    Valhalla Field over The Peoples “Republic” stadium or whatever they want to name it.

  209. By Shawn on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    ok we all know Kalil at 3

    at 35 I say Harrison Smith greater than Stephen Hill greater than Alshon Jeffery

    one of those 3 with 35 and my hope is we get Harrison Smith since we have done nothing to address the safety position in years … oops Tyrell Johnson was a bust. Madieu Williams bust. Abdullah isnt that good he is just the best we have had in 2 years so we think he’s good …

    Kalil
    Harrison Smith

    Could Harrison Smith be our next Robert Griffith ??? I hope so …

  210. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B…Right now if the Vikings trade Webb before the season..Any team interested gets Webb with 2 years left on his contract…Webb plays for any team this year for basically “peanuts”…And that team has a full off season to work out a contract based on what they see this coming season…Whether in practice or real games…

    If the Vikings don’t do anything…And Webb has another good season…Trouble just begins then…Webb most likely will ask for that trade going into his contract year…Or else hold out…No longer does a team have Webb playing a season for them for “peanuts” before talking contract…Now they are taking a chance on a player that “might” fit into their system…And a player that will be demanding more money right away…Before finding out how good he is…

    Not to mention the Vikings lose the chance of getting a higher draft pick for Webb…Because the team will have a disgruntled player on their hands going into a contract year…And an interested team at that point might be better off just seeing if the Vikings just drop him…Than trading a draft pick away for Webb…

    These are just a few problems that could happen…Just saying if Ponder is your future…And you have signed Sage to a contract…A quiet trade with Webb this season would make sense now…Other than waiting for later on…

    This is why Spielman is making the big bucks…To take care of problems before they start…

    Talking to Webb this season makes sense…If he doesn’t mind being the back up and make less money doing so…Have Webb sign an extension that starts after this coming season…If not…A trade makes sense…imo…

  211. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    I like your Choices Shawn….Round 2 should hold more suspence than the first round…

    Or at least I am hoping so….OT Kalil with the 3rd pick !!!!

  212. By hognuts on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    I think we really need to get a WR in the second round. A talented WR will be there for us at 35 that can start right away. WR is a bigger need than Safety.

  213. By vikesfan12 on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    OTK- I agree with you 110%!!! It would be best for the Vikes and Webb.

  214. By vikesfan12 on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    How much difference is there between Quick and jeffery? Will Quick be there in the 3rd?

  215. By RichardA1 on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    Can anybody see where he has helped the Vikes? a few good plays is nothing. Trade hime. He is doing no good on the bench, get a defensive lineman for him.

  216. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    I think H Smith is a good pick…Just think he might be available a little later in the second round…

    A CB/S I think that looks good in the 3rd round is Trumaine Johnson…The guy is awesome playing in space in front of him…Closes extremely fast…And is a sure and physical tackler…He is a CB that loses a step once in awhile against a WR one on one….But put him in a safety position with the plays happening in front of him with his kind of closing speed…And he should excel !!

  217. By Shawn on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    hognuts … ???

    WR depth chart………………………………. Safety depth Chart

    Percy Harvin……………………………………Jamarca Sanford
    Michael Jenkins………………………………..Mistral Raymond
    Devin Aromashadu……………………………Eric Frampton
    Stephen Burton
    Manny Arceneaux

    Seriously ???? WR more improtant ??? Did you see our secondary last year ???

    Harvin Jenkins and Rudolph is a solid receiving corp … could be better but its not bad

    Sanford and Raymond at Safety … really ???

  218. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    Thanks vikesfan12…

    Quick,Givens, and Toon…Would all be solid WR’s that could be in the 3rd round area…

  219. By vikesfan12 on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    1st Kalil
    2nd Smith
    3rd Quick
    Without any trading

  220. By Shawn on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    *sigh still 16 days … or 17 days for round 2-3

  221. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    I just thought about something scary…What if the Packers would take Coby Fleener in the first round to match with J Finley !!!…

    Coby Fleener is 6′-6″ and can run a 4.5..40yd dash that can catch and block….Did I mention he weighs 250 lbs…That would not be a good thing to let happen in the black and blue division….Not at all…

  222. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    Very solid start to the draft vikesfan12…What if the Vikings traded Webb for that middle second round pick I mentioned…And with that second rounder grabbed OLB Shea McClellin…

    1…..Kalil
    2….Smith
    2a..McClellin
    3….Quick

    without any trading…

  223. By hognuts on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    Just what I think Shawn.

  224. By Shawn on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    hognuts … fair enough.

  225. By vikesfan12 on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    That would be so sweet if it panned out that way! Great minds think alike!

  226. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    agreed….hahaha…. : )

  227. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    *without any trading of draft picks… : )

  228. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 10, 2012 | Reply

    new blog up…

  229. By Rocksalt on Apr 11, 2012 | Reply

    BPA works if you have the fright personnel in place to scout, report, draft……..

  230. By Bigfan1 on Apr 15, 2012 | Reply

    It’s amazing Minnesota has more committees and bureaucracy than the federal government.

  231. By Richard1A on Apr 15, 2012 | Reply

    Trade that Webb, I don’t think the opposing teams are threatened by him being a great athlete, he does us no good, it is nice to know he is a great athlete, we will never see it, they never play him. Defense-we need a tuff, talented defensive team.

  232. By RetiredK9 on Apr 17, 2012 | Reply

    So, where will the Vikings be playing in 2013? Will you be the Los Angeles Vikings? Or maybe the Los Angeles Vikings of Anaheim? San Antonio, anyone? Looking around, there really aren’t all that many cities that could support a pro football team and don’t already have one. Portland Oregon is big enough, but there’s no money for them to build a stadium. Austin Texas has nearly a million people in the city and surrounding areas; maybe the Vikings could rent Longhorn Stadium on Sundays. Same with Columbus Ohio-big enough and a ready and waiting stadium that could be rented. Where else? Chicago is large enough to support another team, but is there a fan base for anyone other than the Bears? Albuquerque has nearly a million people in the metropolitan area, but Univeristy of New Mexico’s footbal stadium seats less than 40,000, which is below minimum NFL standards. Sounds like the Vikings will either have to stay where they are or pony up more of their own money.

  233. By puckertrucker on Apr 22, 2012 | Reply

    To all the Fans and Voters in Minnesota: I have watched with great anticipation that there are Congressmen/women,and Senatorial persons that don’t want the Vikings to have a new stadium. WELL I AM HERE TO SAY EVERY ONE OF THE CONSTITUENTS OF THE POLITICIANS THAT DON’T WANT THE STADIUM REMIND THEM THAT THERE IS AN ELECTION COMING UP IN NOVEMBER AND THOSE THAT VOTE AGAINST THE STADIUM ISSUE FACE LOSING THEIR JOBS COME NOVEMBER. I MEAM AFTER ALL WHO WANTS A POLITICIAN THAT DOESN’T HAVE THE STATES BEST INTERESTS AT HEART NOR THE WORKERS OR CITIZENS NEEDS AT HEART. I SAY GET RID OF THEM VOTE THEM OUT OF OFFICE, NO IFS, ANDS, OR BUTS. GET RID OF THE DEAD WIEGHT POLITICIANS NOW. The One and Only PuckerTrucker!!!!!!!!Skol Fans

  234. By labor law poster on May 6, 2012 | Reply

    This may be quite good news to some extent.

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