Reassessing The Potential Of A Trade Market For Vikings #3 Overall Selection

Posted by Mike Wobschall on April 2, 2012 – 6:18 am

Twice in the span of 4 days last month we discussed the possibility of a trade market emerging for the Vikings #3 overall pick. It’s been more than two weeks since we’ve revisited that potential scenario, and with the 2012 NFL Draft less than three weeks away it bears revisiting now.

It’s also appropriate to revisit the issue for two more reasons. First, the focal point of a potential trade involving the Vikings #3 overall pick, former Texas A&M QB Ryan Tannehill, held his pro day last Thursday. Charean Hill of the Star-Telegram reported that representatives from 22 teams, including heavy hitters from the Cleveland Browns, Miami Dolphins and Seattle Seahawks, were in attendance. Hill also reports that both the Browns and Dolphins have had or plan to have alternative visits with Tannehill as well. Second, other outlets, including the website ProFootballTalk, are also gauging the potential of a trade market emerging for the Vikings #3 pick because of Tannehill’s rise up draft boards. NFL Network’s Mike Mayock even stated that the Browns would be wise to take Tannehill with their 1st-round pick (#4 overall).

As I’ve stated in the past on this topic, an objective look at Tannehill might not yield a Top 10 grade. But with the first two picks of the draft likely being QB Andrew Luck to the Indianapolis Colts and QB Robert Griffin III to Washington, other QB-needy teams may get anxious to use their 1st-round pick on a QB, too. On top of that, Tannehill was impressive at his pro day, completing 65 of 68 passes and running the 40-yard dash in 4.62-seconds.

So who might those QB-needy teams be? All 3 of the aforementioned teams – Cleveland, Miami and Seattle – were apparently interested enough in Tannehill to send decision-makers to watch his workout. You can fairly characterize Cleveland and Miami as QB needy, and while Seattle did sign QB Matt Flynn in free agency, it wouldn’t be a surprise to learn that they’re interested in drafting a QB as well. In addition to those teams, I also wonder if Kansas City and Arizona are keeping an eye on potential QB upgrades as well.

There is a chance that none of this plays out, and the Vikings will keep the #3 overall pick and take the top player on their board. But there’s also a chance that the market for Tannehill blows up to the point that some team(s) will seriously consider trading up to #3 in order to secure the opportunity to select him.

If that does indeed happen, the Vikings will have to decide how far back they’re willing to drop. If the Cardinals identify Tannehill as their target, for example, the Vikings would have to be willing to drop down to #13 to consummate a trade, which means coveted players such as left tackle Matt Kalil, WR Justin Blackmon and CB Morris Claiborne would all surely be gone. If it’s Miami, the deal is a bit better for the Vikings because the Dolphins hold the #8 pick. But Blackmon and Claiborne would likely be gone and it’s not a sure thing that Kalil would be there, either. Keep in mind, Tannehill’s college head coach was Mike Sherman, who is now the Dolphins Offensive Coordinator.

The ideal scenario for the Vikings, in my mind, remains a trade with Cleveland. The Browns hold the #4 selection, and the only way to ensure that they have the opportunity to select Tannehill would be to agree to a one-position flop with the Vikings. That would give the Browns the QB they covet, and it would still give the Vikings their pick among Blackmon, Claiborne, Kalil or someone else.

It’s a lot to think about, especially considering there’s a chance that none of it plays out. But Tannehill is the 3rd-best QB in this draft, and the only way for NFL teams to ensure a chance to select him before the Vikings use the #3 overall pick is to trade for that pick. As they’ve been the entire time, the Vikings are in great position with the #3 pick and fans should be looking forward to watching Rick Spielman and Co. leverage that great position in order to improve this roster.

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107 Responses to “Reassessing The Potential Of A Trade Market For Vikings #3 Overall Selection”

  1. By Parody on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    It’s fun to think about a trade, but I just don’t think it’s gonna happen. Any smart team would be smarter to just wait for him to drop to their spot, and if it doesn’t happen look for a better option in next year’s draft.

  2. By Carl K on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    If Miami really wants Tannehill, are they smart to do nothing and let him go to Cleveland at pick 4?

    IMO, the Vikings would be willing to flop with Cleveland for a bag of peanuts…
    Why would Cleveland risk a QB hungry team trading up to get Tannehill.

    I think a trade will happen… the question is how much do the Vikings want, and how far down will they want to go?

  3. By chrisbreezy on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    vikings are better off using their next year 1st 3 picks to get this year 1st and/or 2nd round picks today.

  4. By Carl K on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    We are in a bit of a game of chicken.. Cleveland knows they are in the drivers seat, so they will wait till the last minute to offer anything good.

  5. By charliewest40 on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Hopefully desperation will drive up the price

    I am in favor of trading down, even as low as #8

    We can still make an impactful selection at #8 (Reiff) or michael Floyd and have an even better draft from there out.

    One consideration a few years down the road: Do we want to commit the big dollars needed to keep an all pro left tackle ? Versus a good enough (top 10-15) tackle who would fill the bill and free up more cap space for other impactful players.

    Bottom line: we have to listen to offers and be flexible enough to carry out an alternative to the Kalil plan.

    Having said that I am for Kalil at #3

    Go Vikes !!!!!

  6. By DRS on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

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    by Tim Nelson, Minnesota Public Radio

    April 1, 2012

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  7. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    No trades make any sense Wobs…Unless the Rams want Kalil…

    Browns are not moving up one spot and giving up draft choices…When they know it will take a kings ransom for another team to do so for the 3rd overall spot…The only team with enough draft picks to spare to move up that high is the Rams…And if the Rams did make the trade…They would be making that trade to get Kalil…Because if Fisher stays where he is at…Either Blackmon or Claiborne would fall to him anyway staying at 6 in the draft…So to want to move up…They would have to be targeting Kalil…And the Browns would be safe to take Tannehill anyway…

    NFL network has a report a few days ago that Fisher was looking for a trade partner to move back up in the draft…The way I see it…The only team they could be talking about is the Vikings as that trade partner…imo..

  8. By DRS on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Now back to your regular programming, lol, Have fun everyone.

  9. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Todd McShay has said…

    Matt Kalil is the finest O-lineman he has ever seen in the college ranks…And the highest grade he has ever given to an O-lineman…

    Spielman giving up the chance to grab Kalil would be foolish…Future pro bowl LT’s don’t pop up in the draft very often…And what is even less of a likely…Is the chance for a team to be lucky enough to be in position to draft that player !!…

    Trade pics if you want Rick rounds 2-7…Be smart with your first pick…

    Pick Matt Kalil…

  10. By Mike B. on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    I would hope that Spielman covets Kalil as much as the Rams do. We sure do need him on our OL. I think the only trade situation that makes sense is to take offers from Miami and Seattle. Then go to the Browns and say how would you like to match it. As I have said before this could net us the Browns lower first round pick or their second round pick. I think moving down to Miami or Seattle will mean an additional first round pick next year to make it work the move.

  11. By Mike B. on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    oops worth the move

  12. By vikings4life on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    OTKalil2012…. so what? Todd McShay has said a million times that the best proday and person he evaluated was Jarmarcus Russel yea the QB from LSU. He always reminds people that this proccess isnt exact and that to him and every other scout Russell was the best rated player. Kalil is going to be a great Linemen but to a team who 1 doesnt know what they have in qb,so why would any billion dollar company invest in a position that they dont even know what they have in (QB) Yea they are going to give ponder as many tries and chances that he needs but lets say he struggles the next two years now we have an LT but no QB?!? Take Claiborne and we have solidified our secondary for atleast 5 years.

  13. By vikings4life on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    OTkalil- Kalil does absolutley nothing to help us win next year, did AP need him last year or the year before NO, he was the labeled the “best” running back in the leauge the last two years. IS it going to give time for ponder, yes but who is he going to throw too and who says POnder is anything he is a second year starter that went 1-8 and you want to invest 25 million on a Left TAckle!!!! i just pray that you never have authority on this team

  14. By Mike B. on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Wobby is doing the right thing to point out the trade possibilites and a GM should be considering the offers coming in. The question is the top 3 non-QB players are much more NFL ready with Kalil being the most ready. Does the Vikings want to risk losing all three just to add more picks this year. Everyone has their favorite college player but do you risk missing out on the top 3? I don’t think it is a good move to do so. Our only trading partner realistically is Cleveland. They are just as likely to wait Spielman out.

  15. By Roninmn.. on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Absolutely no trades unless we still get Kalil. .

  16. By vikings4life on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Honestly Kalil is the biggest suckers pick in this draft, why why why would anyone with a football mind, pass up the best receiver( they say his much better then dez bryant) or the best Corner in the draft( rodgers, jennings, staffford, calvin, cutler, marshall) for an OT?!!?!! HOW HOW HOW IN THE WORLD IS THAT REBUILDING? ITS THROWING FRAZIER UNDER THE BUS, IF SPIELMAN DRAFTS KALIL WE KNOW FRAZIER IS GONE NEXT YEAR. If you need the best LT for a 23 year old qb to stay upright then that QB isnt what this team needs. cause FAVRE who was 40 stood up and dominated.

  17. By Mike B. on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    @vikings4life A lot of opinion in your statement. Kalil is probably a 10 or more year starter for the Vikings. Assuming that Ponder isn’t the QB of the future and is gone one or two years out Kalil would still be able to protect the next. Your logic doesn’t follow. CBs have a much shorter shelf life than linemen and by all accounts Kalil it a decade long pro bowler. We can’t miss out on that.

  18. By vikings4life on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply


  19. By Mike B. on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    @vikings4life Farve and McNabb suffered under a poor offensive line. It ended Farve’s career. If we had a better OL last year in my opinion, I think that McNabb finishes the season as the starter. Fred is right it all starts and ends in the Trenches. We need Kalil to protect our QB. If we have the same record this year as last Fraizer is done anyway and probably Spielman too.

  20. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply


    How many completions will Ponder throw to your new receiver laying on his back….

    AP…Wouldn’t he run just a little bit better if the offensive line opened a few holes for him to run through…Instead of AP getting his first contact with the defense behind the line of scrimmage ???…

  21. By vikings4life on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    MikeB. Yea is he now? im sure you do not remember when we drafted bryant mckinney but they said he was a solid 10 year starter as well my point being you and me and anyone else in the world has no idea how long a player will be effective for. what about johnathan martin? stanford tackle will he not play for 10 years? Its just like everything you hear on ESPN is a educated guess, No one said McKinney would stop trying after 8 years did they? of course not, I know your a fan and so am i, we both want this team to win but we have to think this year and the future, i know speilman has said we are taking our time but in hte NFL if you take your time your out of the league, you know who else took their time ” Matt Millen”

  22. By vikings4life on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    yea he would but ap running a little better isnt our problem, its blowing 20 point leads!!!!

  23. By Mike B. on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    @ It worked out well for the Ravens who got the Blind Side guy in the first round. You don’t see anyone bothering the Ravens QB because they have two good Tackles. You may have strong opinions for the WR or CB. But from what I have seen and read Kalil is the real deal.

  24. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply


    Kalil would be replacing the worst LT in the league in Charlie Johnson…

    And you think would be a “wasted pick” ???…

  25. By Mike B. on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    @vikings4life I have a very slanted view of what happened to McKinney and I think if we had better coaches. McKinney is still a Viking. McKinney played at probowl level last year with the Ravens. McKinney was a mistake made by Fraizer and we all ended up living with that mistake.

  26. By vikings4life on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    go back and look at our games scoring wasnt our problem it was our defense!!! do i understand we need an uprgade at Tackle of course but second round tackles are more equivilant to first round tackels in the sense that the differesne between those is not as drastic as the difference between blackmon and micheal floyd or the next WR and Claiborne and Janoris jenkins and Dre kirkpatrick. the droppoff in a posisiton player is so much more drastic then offensive linemen because they are 5-7 offensivle linemen on the field on a given play they work together corners and recievers are on thier own and have to create plays. this is why it would be easier to get a OT that fits Nice i agree no kalil but just a good fit with the other OL and then you get a blue chip corner or reciever that can take away a player for the game or can be a deep threat reciever that wiht percy rudolph and john carlson suddenly we have a very young recieving corp with outstanding upside.

  27. By Mike B. on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    @vikings4life same analogy could be used for taking a CB or WR in a year with a lot of depth in CBs and WRs. Besides if the Vikings make a move on the guy from the Eagles we are in a much lesser need of high draft CB. It has been reported we are in dealings with the Eagles.

  28. By vikings4life on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Mckinney wasnt done i agree that was a mistake on the vikings but the ravens drafted micheal oher 24th int he first round which is as different as night and day #3 and number 24 i would have no problem taking kalil 24th

  29. By Mike B. on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    I have stated all along that we need a top notch WR or CB in the FA to offset needs on the team. So far Spielman has been unwilling to spend the money in FA. If the Eagles deal comes our way that would complete the need in FA. This would leave us open to Draft the LT and WR.

  30. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    If you watch other teams with solid RB’s…Those teams have O-lineman open holes for those RB’s…Like Moses did with the parting of the Red sea !!…

    AP has to get his 1500 yds year after year fighting LB’s and DE’s in the Vikings backfield to get going…

    Its not just Ponder not getting enough time to throw…Don’t you think there will be a party at AP’s house if Kalil is chosen also ??…

  31. By vikings4life on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    the issue with ponder was never OL if favre made it around at 40 a 23 year old kid should be able to be athletic as favre to get the ball out of his hands, the real problem was ponders 13 int!!!!

  32. By Mike B. on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    @vikings4life at that point you are wrong you need to have a line to protect you so you can throw effectively. in 09 Farve had very few interceptions. in 10 Farve was up to one of his worse years in interceptions. The line had gotten that bad by then. Fraizer didn’t see what was happening to the line and didn’t make adjustments in 11 and worse cut a player before having an equivalent replacement.

  33. By Roninmn.. on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    We have two excellant tightends and can pick up a deep threat in the draft. Also have Percy, we need a strong foundation and that is the offensive line. Just think of the bigger holes A.P will get to run through. Kalil is a must pick for us.

  34. By Mike B. on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Having watched all but one game last year I can tell you our OL was terrible and we need Kalil to fix this issue.

  35. By Mike B. on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    TEs are not field stretching players Percy is a good slot receiver. We need the prototypical 6’4 Fast WR to keep the other team from bringing 8 or 9 in the box. There are some of those type of guys availible in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. We need to find that diamond in the rough.

  36. By vikings4life on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    MIke really? or was it a 41 year old qb who had been targeted to been taken out of the game in 2009 and 2010 the first game and thats what everyone tired to do after is hit favre so he would be out of the game. I agree our line did much worse but the line didnt change from 2009 to 2010. the only reasont he line got “bad” is cause we were 6-10 if we were 12-4 again they would of never said anything about the line getting bad. How can a team have a great line in 2009 ahve the same people come back and now suddenley and coincidentially we are loosing and its a “bad” line. We played bad in 2010 and 2011 as a team! we have to be smart enough to realize that when you win everyting is right and when you loose they cant find enouth things to point to as the reason we are “bad”

  37. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B…

    Kalil first round…And a good chance WR Rueben Randle or Stephen Hill will be avaiable in the second round…Hill is a tad faster…But Randle ahs 4.5 speed and always seems to get good seperation in his routes…Both are around the 6′- 4” tall range…

    Both of those guys will be excellent WR’s…Lots of good receivers in this years draft…

  38. By thenaj17 on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    @ vikings4life – you say defense was our problem but if our offense stayed on the field a few minutes longer per game with Ponder having longer in the pocket and moving the chains a little better, then we would concede less points. We regularly lost good position on the field because of sacks, TFL’s etc due to lack of QB protection. That is why we lost leads and gave up so many scoring plays

  39. By Roninmn.. on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Well put Mike B. The draft is our answer for wide outs and our secondary. Kalil it is then.. new subject please.

  40. By Troutdaddy on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    @vikings4life- I absolutely agree that our pass defense is the huge need here but the fact remains that Kahlil can be a huge piece to help our QB. If we can give Ponder the time to throw and let the play delvelop, then our receivers can get open. The fact remains that we still have a lot of picks to find solutions for our defense and we WILL see improvement in this area. The Vikes are going to pick the player that is the most crucial to their needs list. If Kahlil or Claiborne is chosen then I think it is a positive step as we need both. It is going to be a win-win either way, but I think the OT position has more weight and so I think the Vikes will take Kahlil with their #3 pick.

  41. By Shawn on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    24 days

  42. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    The Vikings best spot to make a trade could be the second round…There is a chance either S Hill or R Randle will be there in the second round for the Vikings…(just can’t see the A Jeffery pick)..I could see the Vikings making the pick…If not..I think Spielman will trade down…If he trades the second pick…I think five positions come into play Spielman might take later in round 2 after dropping down…

    WR,CB,DT,LB and S…If Spielman grabs Kalil round one…And doesn’t take a WR in the top of the second round and trades down…Anything can happen then…And might get very interesting after that…

  43. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Rd 1- LT Matt Kalil (Todd Mcshay calls Kalil “Best LT prospect he has ever seen”)
    Rd 2- CB Trumaine Johnson (convert to safety)
    Rd 3- CB Chase Minnifield (best zone corner in draft)
    Rd 4- LB Sean Spence (With loss of EJ we need a LB to start or for depth)
    Rd 4 comp- WR Brian Quick (Best spot to give Ponder a little help at wideout)
    Rd 4 comp- DT Kheeston Randall (Guion is no K Williams and Williams isnt getting any younger)

  44. By Mike B. on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    We have 10 picks in this draft. I don’t see why we would need more picks unless it is to help the Browns get Tannehill. We are going to get some good players due to how our picks fall. Some of these picks won’t be on the team or in the practice squad when the season starts. I think we have enough picks to fill the needs we have.

  45. By Countdown to Draft on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    24 DAYS!!!

  46. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Wow thousands of fans are protesting in New Orleans. They want Sean Payton “freed”. Is it hurricane season yet?

  47. By joe on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Claiborne !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  48. By Carl K on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    GDP – i think Brian Quick will be in hot demand… he will be gone by the 4th round.

    I don’t think Trumaine Johnson is a top 40 player.

    Bobby Wagner is the Linebacker we need, Can play in the middle or outside.

  49. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    GDP….They want Sean Payton “freed” ???…You sure it isn’t “fired”…

    Fired makes way more sense to me…

  50. By DeerTracks on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    GDP, When Ktrina hit, People from Minnesota were some of the first to arrive to help down there, we even beat FEMA in arrival time…

    Never again..Drown the @**&^% State under 50 feet of water….

    Make certain Williams, Payton, and other assorted garbage are there to enjoy the swim…

  51. By Ponder This on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Picking in the first 5 picks is always risky, it really is 50/50 if they pan out, because being picked that high, a player has to play at pro bowl level or be considered a bust, and we could spend all day listing top 5 flops including players who ended up not even being serviceable. Kalil is the safe pick, meaning there is little chance he ends up a flop. There impact players every year in the first 4 rounds, a lot of wholes can be filled in those picks. My opinion is that the riskiest pick at number 3 also has the most potential for upside impact and that is Clairborne. If he is as good as claimed a star corner makes a huge difference. I’m not sold on taking Blackmon, for every level headed star receiver there are 20 prima donnas who disrupt team chemistry, and their true colors never come out till they get to the nfl.

  52. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Blackmon,Floyd,Wright,Randle,( jeffery?),Givens,Sanu,Quick,Jones and Toon…

    That is 10 WR’s that are good enough to easily start for the Vikings…

    That is even without mentioning good receivers like McNutt,Wylie, and Criner…

    Vikings will have a lot of talented receivers to look at in the first 4 rounds of the draft…And secondary and DT help that is just as deep through 4 rounds…..

    The positions that are weak are OT,DE, and TE…

    Even though the position of LT is weak this year…There still is one prospect that is considered elite…And that is Kalil…

    I personally don’t like many of the RB’s coming out either…T Richardson being the elite of that group by far also…

  53. By WL - Mpls on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    For any team except possibly the Browns, trading for the Vikings #3 spot will be very expensive. Given the bust in FA for Miami, they will be motivated to bring in talent to sell tickets. But with 6 elite players in the draft, and the #8 pick, I don’t know what Miami can give the Vikings to make up for the loss of an elite pick. The best thing that could happen is the Dolphins make an offer, and the Browns feel they need to counter, and the Vikings trade with the Browns + maybe their 2nd round pick. That would be ideal. But more likely is no trade is done.

  54. By WL - Mpls on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Assuming no trades for the Vikings, this would be the best outcome for the first 4 rounds of the draft:
    1st Round: Matt Kalil, OT
    2nd Round: Stephen Hill, WR or Tommy Streeter WR
    3rd Round: Chase Minnifield, DB
    4th Round: Mike Martin, DT – Michigan + 2 more

  55. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    OTK- No i said it right. They are holding up signs and wearing shirts that say free sean payton

  56. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    The wild card in the draft for the Vikings might be…Is where the draft is the LB’s they covet ??…If fans that get their wish who want Spielman to trade down in the first round…I could easily see Spielman taking LB Kuechly or OLB Ingram with the first pick…If the Vikings land a pick 6 or later in the draft after trading down…

    They have several that might be available in the second round also…

    LB is a position that I think isn’t getting much love so far in the draft talk…And a position chuck full of very good talented players…And being a very strong group earlier in the draft…Will the Vikings pull the trigger early in the first 3 rounds on a LB ???..

    Its a big need for them…

  57. By mad1 on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    browns might give up a 2nd rd they do have 2 frist rd and 1 for their Rb they lost….if we can get Miami to talk or the rams…cause they just trade back to highest bider..

  58. By ajjohnson19 on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    I think the vikings would be dumb to trade away from this pick because we already know the first two players off the board so they basically have whoever else they want. We need a lot of positions but we, for sure, need Matt Kalil. We need either a CB or WR in the second round then, the other position in the third. There are many good WR out there and I don’t think we need another one from South Carolina because we all know how those turned out. If anything,we could use some of our fourth rounders and third rounder to possibly trade up to get a better receiver, for example, kendall wright (Baylor) or Michael Floyd (Notre Dame). Trading down is stupid especially with all the needs the Vikings need to fill.

  59. By KoN on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    LB is not a big need, we ahve three starters. We need depth and if Brinkley doesn’t work out, maybe one starter. However we’ll have to give Brinkley this year to see if he’s good enough. So we really don’t need to worry about LB until next year. I would be unhappy if we took and LB earlier than one of our compensatory picks.

  60. By KoN on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    @ajjohnson19 did you say trading down is stupid because we have a lot of needs to fill? That is why a team trades down. You don’t trade up when you have a lot of needs. Think about it, if you hav a lot of needs you need a lot of picks. The more picks you have the higher your chances of getting a good player are.

  61. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Brinkley is a good run stuffer…But Brinkley is not a sideline to sidelne ILB…Erin Henderson is better on the outside…But is average playing inside…Vikings need a playmaker inside…Or maybe a solid DT also…Kevin Williams needs some help busting up the middle to make some plays…And a crafty LB that knows blitz schemes could be that guy…The MLB should be calling out the plays for the defense after seeing how the offense lines up…We don’t have that guy at MLB right now.One that we can devolope and can change coverages on the fly…

  62. By iaVIKE on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    And a LB that can cover TE’s when need be

  63. By KoN on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    And that’s true, but we have much more pressing needs that should be addressed before that, I believe that a 4th round compesatory pick is the earliest we should look at LB.

  64. By Rogerthevikefan on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Charlie Johnson is the reason Payton Manning had to have 4 neck surgeries. If he is playing LT next season Ponder will not make it. You protect your young Qb with a great LT otherwise you get David Carr. Draft Kalil.

  65. By Rogerthevikefan on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings will make the playoffs if Kalil is the pick.

  66. By iaVIKE on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    KoN- Agreed

  67. By iaVIKE on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply


  68. By vikesfan12 on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    1st Kalil
    2nd Randle/Hill
    3rd best available CB/S
    rest of the draft best avail. D player
    6th or 7th kicker
    That would be an exciting O to watch!!!!!

  69. By Ryguy on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    We really should take LT number one.

    In the second round we should take a wide reciever. Hopefully Stephen Hill or Alshon Jeffery. (Preferably Stephen Hill as he ran a 4.30 40 at the combine and has a height of 6’4)

    That will give the vikings the deep threat they need and the time Ponder needs. It will open things up for Harvin and Peterson and hopefully make Ponder a better QB.

    As I stated in an earlier article, this is why we take LT number one:

    “I’m going to be honest here. We are not going to make the playoffs this season unless Ponder becomes a super star this year, which is very unlikely. Just because we have too many weak positions to fill.
    In order to rebuild for future years, we need to know if we got a QB for the future. There is no way to know that if Ponder gets killed on the field with sacks like he did last year. That is why we need to draft LT Kalil. If we don’t I can just see Ponder playing terrible and then and then people will say “Ponder has no chance with that Vikings O line”. And that problem will set us back. We will not know if Ponder is the QB of the future.
    Yes it is true that we will match up weak against division rivals with their strong passing game and our weak defense, but in all honesty, there is no way we will make the playoffs this year unless we have a powerful offense. It is better if we try to roll with those teams instead of defend against them. We may lose more games in the short term (possibly) but in the long term it is way more important to see if Ponder is our guy and to see our offense roll. Plus if we lose to those teams we will also have high draft picks next year where we can buff up our defense. Hopefully by then Ponder will have become even better and our young guys on offense will be better and we can have a legit chance for a super bowl run. To do that this year though is being unrealistic and most Vikings fans know it.
    People need to prioritize whats most important. And a high powered offense is most important in modern football. Look at the teams that are consistently good year after year. Packers, Patriots, Colts, Saints, and even us when we had a high powered offense with elite QBs.
    Those are the teams that win consistently year after year in the modern game of football. That is why it is important to see if Ponder is the real deal.
    Forget trying to compete with teams this year by drafting someone who can stop Rodgers, Cutler or stafford. Because 1). We aren’t going anywhere this year anyways unless we have a super good offense 2). We aren’t going to be able to shut down elite QB’s in today’s game even with a super good secondary. When elite qbs are on there game they are on there game. Its just how the game is played.
    That is why I strongly encourage the Vikings to draft Kalil in the first round and then a WR in the second round.”

    To add to that, the draft this year is deep with wide recievers and cornerbacks. There are not a lot of good OT’s besides Kalil and Reiff. Yet another reason to take one of them.

    We really don’t have anyone at LT right now, so it would be stupid to not draft a LT in the first round.

    One scenario that wouldn’t be so bad is to trade down to about pick 8 or 9. Then we could draft Riley Reiff and then we could trade up to draft a superior WR like Stephen Hill. That wouldn’t be such a bad trade because I think that Stephen Hill will end up being a really good player in the NFL.

  70. By OTKalil2012 on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    KoN…I agree with the LB being taken later in the draft…Just see outstanding LB talent falling in that position early in the draft…With Spielman weighing those “pros and cons”…Will that talent level force the Vikings too grab a LB early ??…There are a few early that will be hard to pass on I believe will be stars at the position…One few head coaches seem to want too talk about so far…

    Spielman is a “best player available” kind of GM also…But I happen to like that about him…

  71. By Larry on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Mo Claiborne with the #3 pick,its a no brainer.Kalil isnt going to keep teams from scoring on us.

  72. By Troutdaddy on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    I think Spielman is hard to read when it comes to who is going to be selected. I don’t necessarily agree that he is a “best player available” kind of GM. Especially with the specific needs the Vikings must fill. I see him as really looking at the situation and makeing a decision first- based on need and right-fit and then secondly as best player available. If they do take the best player available, then most likely they have already discussed that with other deals in mind with other teams to leverage specific positions. I think this years draft is going to be amazing and that some really cool possibilities are going to emerge for the Viikes. in 24 days I would love to be at the Dome to watch…. hard living here in Utah where there is no team or specific affinity for one. It is such a mish-mash of fans here. I love the Vike-fans in Minnesota. Doesn’t get much better than that.

  73. By Jeffbleedspurple on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t know why so many people feel Kalil is the answer to our teams offensive issues, if you have an OL with 3 better than average lineman and a line with 1 superstar and the rest average or less than average players, I would put my money on the line with 3 better than average players doing much better than the line with the single superstar, sometimes good is good enough to get the job done and win, no superstars needed unless its Calvin Johnson clone.

  74. By iaVIKE on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Jeffbp- I wouldn’t call the rest of our line average or below average….Sully is a good young center with a lot of potential, Schwartz and berger compete for RG and Loadholt is a beast that will continue to improve especially since this is a contract year for him. The only ? is C Johnson, but if he moves to LG he will be more comfortable there than LT where he was last year

  75. By peever on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    so your finally admitting blackmon and claiborne are better picks than kalil…..bout time you realize that wobby

  76. By peever on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    and why does eveyone keep saying you need kalil to protect ponders blindside……who says ponder will be the qb….very good chance webb will beat him out in camp …then you dont need a fat olineman to protect webb do you….you need targets for him…..or better yet a top db to stop rogers/jennings…….calvin…….cutler/marshal………..running game and sloid defense should be the plan for 2012………CLAIBORNE

  77. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    peever- Ive said before I would love to see a Cook/Claiborne CB tandem for us. If we do get him who would be your choice in the 2nd round?

  78. By GrandDaddyPurp on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    I’m split 50/50 on Kalil and Claiborne. Either one would be a great addition to the roster. Cant go wrong with either.

  79. By vikesfan12 on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Theres alot of depth this year in the draft in CB! KALIL!!!!!

  80. By vikesfan12 on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    If you were to ask Ponder and AP who Speilman should draft they would say KALIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  81. By Parody on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    vikesfan12 – What if you were to ask Jared and Greenway?

  82. By vikesfan12 on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    They had to sit on the sideline and watch all three of our QBs run for their lives. Im sure they would agree. Lets make it easy for AP,hes not getting any younger!

  83. By iaVIKE on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Parody- They’d say take Kalil……no more 3 and outs…we’re gassed

  84. By Parody on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    That’s such an overused cliche vikesfan12 – name me one person who IS getting any younger?

  85. By Parody on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    iaVIKE – In that case they should stop eating beans before the game.

  86. By Gary on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Kalil at #3. Look to trade down in round #2 Both Philly and Denver have extra round #4 picks. Possible to trade down whith Philly and then down again with Denver and add at least a 4th round pick each time. With no regular picks after round 4, New England is poised as a candidate to trade down for more picks – as they always do – and they have an extra round 2 pick.

  87. By marshhof on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    What we really need is someone who can develop the young talent it really don`t matter who we draft when we cannot get them to play to their potential.GB is taking nobodys and making them superstars and bellicheck same thing its all about getting the best out of what you have and we dont do it

  88. By vikesfan12 on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Parody- Games are won in the trenches! lol

  89. By Craig on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    ESPN showed the Eagles to workout Tannhill. I wonder if they are planning to jump ahead of Cleveland? If Minnesota makes the trade, I hope they are smart enough to get a 1st round pick for 2013 and 2014, plus swap 1st round, a 2nd the Eagles two 2nd rounders. We would pick at #15 in the 1st round…possible players include: Malcom Floyd, Stephen Hill, Stephen Gilmore, Jenoris Jenkins. The with our three picks in the 2nd round either jump back into the 1st round or pick out three quality players to help on both sides of the ball.

  90. By Craig on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Long day I cant spell

  91. By Nicholas on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    Select Tannehill at # 3, Duh Vikings…its a “no brainer!”

  92. By Joel on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    I TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!! I’ve been dreaming we grab Claiborne and Alshon Jeffery and Harron smith in the three rounds here’s why…
    1)we scored 19 pts with a rookie QB and injured AP a bad OL and bad WRs! This year? AP will probably be healthy we added Carlson and Geoff which will make are offense even better and will get 2 WR in the draft ao that’ll make are team average like 26pts a game
    2)WE NEED D FENCE we blew 4 halftime leads (worst in NFL history) have one of the worst secondarys ever and were up against BRANDON MARSHALL JAY CUTLER STAFFORD CALVIN JOHNSON ARON RODGER AND GREG JENNINGS IF YOU FORGOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we need to get a shut down corner and a ball hawk another #2 DB Wont help (Josh Robinson, Stephon Gilmore ect) BECAUSE we have that set chris cook bowman and more all we need now is a S and a #1 DB aka Morris Claiborne especially considering we have Jared allen on the end which will make Claiborne a sucesess and add more INTs
    3)even though we had a horrible OL CP7 still had 13 TDs and 13 INTs considering we had OL upgrade tweaks 2 great TE and drafting a couple WRs will instantly improve him.

    Again Vikingsforlife I totally agree great minds think a like even my email is Vikingsforlife (and numbers not giving it out)!!!

  93. By Joel on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    1)Morris Claiborne
    2)Alshon Jeffery
    3)Trumain Johnson (put as a safety)
    4)Tommy Streeter (If he drops this far)
    Rest of the draft I would like to see us pick another S, depth at RB, a MLB, and a DT

  94. By Allan on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    The only way Speilman can justify not drafting Kalil with the third pick is if we draft Claiborne with that third pick and we get a decent LT with our second pick and we get a deep threat WR with one of our 4th round picks. We also need to draft a safety (3rd round), a MLB (3rd or 4th round), a guard (4th round), and another corner or safety somewhere. The same argument made about bad teams drafting a LT early could be made for drafting a corner that high but lets face it: the Vikes need to draft a Kalil, Claiborne, and Blackman to turn things around – assuming Ponder throws to the right colored jersey and AP can come back close to how he ran before his injury.

  95. By Brad Childress' Mustache on Apr 2, 2012 | Reply

    The Vikes are actually in a pretty good position to do a trade that can be win win if they play their cards right. Here are some things to consider:

    Because the three teams that pick immediately after the Vikings (Browns, Bucs, Rams) have similar wants and needs, as well, it’s entirely possible that one of them will want to trade up. If even one of them gets paranoid about the other, this can play well into the Vikings favor.

    Consider this, according to many mocks:

    Cleveland might have interest in Tannehill, Richardson, Blackmon, or even Claibourne
    Tampa Bay might have interest in Richardson or Claibourne
    Saint Louis might have interest in Blackmon or Claibourne
    And let’s not forget that the Dolphins might have interest in Tannehill
    *Out of the first three teams, the Rams are probably the only one that would consider Kalil if he fell into their lap.

    My hope is that the Vikings play this cool and if they find themselves on the phone with Tampa, Saint Louis, and Cleveland among others on draft day, I hope they prefer to do a trade with Cleveland. If they do, they can still get Kalil and pick up some extra picks. Granted, we don’t really know at this point just how much Cleveland is willing to give up, but even if the Vikes don’t get equivalent value, being able to still draft Kalil while obtaining an extra pick or two (in the third and fourth round for example), is great!

    Using the same philosophy, perhaps, they can then trade back with Tampa Bay, the next team in line, and get something, maybe a extra three or four.

    The interesting question is, what if the Rams or Tampa or Miami want to trade up with the Vikings while they are at three? What if they make the Vikings an offer they can’t refuse, like extra picks in rounds two and three and or even four? Do they go through with this and take the chance of Kalil falling to them? Perhaps they reside themselves to losing Kalil if they can get extra picks in the second, third, and fourth rounds. As I think about this, maybe it’s not a bad idea. If they traded back with any of those teams, they could still get OT, Jonathan Martin with their first pick. That’s not a bad consolation prize. And with as many needs as the Vikings have, and as deep a draft this is in the areas that they have those needs, I would strongly consider this.

  96. By HOODGAGE on Apr 3, 2012 | Reply


  97. By Carl on Apr 3, 2012 | Reply

    I say take Kalil with the #3 pick then trade our #35 pick to the Eagles for there #46 & #51 picks & maybe there #79 in the 3rd rd.

    Rd 2 #46 Marvin Mcnutt WR Iowa
    Rd2 #51 Josh Robinson CB Central Florida

    Then with our 2 3rd rd picks #67 & #79

    Rd3 #67 A.J Jenkins WR Illinois
    Rd3 #79 Chase Minnifield FS Virginia

  98. By rory from n.w.ark on Apr 3, 2012 | Reply

    please last season we were just a play away from winning at least 6 more games ,take kalil 1st pick ,figure out our injury riddled secondary,add acouple players in draft ,also note there are a couple wide receivers here in ark to look at…. get at least 2 wide recievers in draft go after a run stopper beside kevin on defense line … and please get off ponders back he never had a chance last year with our line problems,peterson needs to learn to have patience again……

  99. By jerdog99 on Apr 3, 2012 | Reply

    personaly I think Minn esota Vikings need a new coach if they do this trade… they should go for a good qb in the first round ponder sucks and I don’t see him getting any better. I think if there was a good qb kinda like favre outy there they should go for him. if vikings don’t go for a qb first round vikings are gonna suck again…….

  100. By minumprose on Apr 3, 2012 | Reply

    I believe the Vikings should take Kalil in the first, Zeitler (Wisc.) or best CB in the second and then draft Joe Adams in the third. Draft the best players available at the time after that outside of RB.

  101. By T.HARRIS on Apr 3, 2012 | Reply

    Blackmon all the way.People love to see touchdowns scores.Don’t miss this opportunity Vikes.BLACKMON,BLACKMON,BLACKMON.

  102. By T.HARRIS on Apr 4, 2012 | Reply

    And if you ask me who the Vikings should draft i would say Justin Blackmon period.

  103. By T.HARRIS on Apr 4, 2012 | Reply

    Look people Kalil maybe the safest pick but Kalil and Claiborne won’t sell tickets Blackmon will people love touchdowhs.It’s just not the time for Kalil someone will block.Ask Dallas playmaker Micheal Irvin,Troy Aikman,Emmit Smith.Ask the Rams Kurt Warner,Marshall Faulk,Isaac Bruce.Ask the 49ers Montana,Craig,Rice.Ask the Steelers Bradshaw,Harris,Swan.You can even ask the Vikes Randall Cunningham,Robert Smith,and Randy Moss didn’t win SB but scored the most points that year.Draft an OL when your playmakers are in place at least not first like this we need to make touchdowns and solidify our defense.BLACKMON,BLACKMON,BLACKMON.

  104. By Alex on Apr 4, 2012 | Reply

    I agree with T. Harris. Bulk up the Line in the 2nd round. Get that deep threat 1st. Its not like kalil will give ponder tons of extra time. ponder still needs people to throw to. And blackmon or floyd would take some blitzing pressure of ponder as well and open up percy. Just to hard to pass up on a deep threat first imo

  105. By Bleedpurple on Apr 7, 2012 | Reply


  106. By Bleedpurple on Apr 7, 2012 | Reply

    I am a huge Vikings fan and always will be. My suggestion for the Vikings and Speilan if he is listening is to draft Kalil at #3 and then go after Kendall Wright with our second pick. Qright should be available and then qill start the season with Harvin and Wright and great pass protection. Also think we should go after Streeter from Miami. I think we can get him in 4th roumd and still get a good corner or safety in 3rd rpund. comments plz.

  107. By Bleedpurple on Apr 7, 2012 | Reply

    My dream draftMatt Kahlil, Kendall Wright at #2, #3 best corner or saefty available, #4 Streeter, #5 best corner or LB available and whoever else speilman deems necessary.i

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