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Trade Demand For Vikings #3 Pick Still A Good Possibility

Posted by Mike Wobschall on March 19, 2012 – 6:02 am

Late last week we examined the possibility of a robust trade market emerging for the Vikings #3 pick, with former Texas A&M QB Ryan Tannehill’s proposed inflated draft stock being the genesis of the demand for the Vikings selection.

One could assume Tannehill will be in high demand because he’s regarded as the 3rd best QB prospect in this year’s draft and the first two prospects – Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III – will be selected with the first two picks.

As was theorized in that blog entry, QB-needy teams such as Cleveland, Miami and Seattle who miss out on QBs in free agency will be looking to upgrade their QB situations on draft day. With that being the case, those teams could opt to trade up to the Vikings slot in order to select Tannehill.

One aspect of this entire theory we didn’t mention was the possibility that any of those aforementioned teams who strike a deal with a QB in free agency (Peyton Manning, for example) might displace a QB on their roster, thus giving teams who are still looking to improve another option. For example, if the San Francisco 49ers sign Manning, that leaves Alex Smith as an alternative for other teams. If the Tennessee Titans sign Manning, that leaves Matt Hasselbeck as an alternative. None of this helps the Vikings, but I also think it won’t eliminate the chance that some team will want to trade up for the Vikings #3 overall pick.

Over the weekend, the 2nd-best free agent QB signed with one of the QB-needy teams identified above. The Seattle Seahawks signed Flynn, taking them off the menu of teams that might consider trading up to select Tannehill. The good news is, though, that the Seahawks signing of Flynn does not make available a new QB. Seattle is expected to retain last year’s starter (Tarvaris Jackson) and have a competition for the starting spot.

So where does that leave our theory on a robust market developing for the Vikings #3 overall pick? There’s still a good chance. As of right now, I’m pegging Cleveland and Miami as the two teams most likely to consider trading up to the Vikings spot for the right to select Tannehill. The Dolphins weren’t able to sign Flynn, and they will lose out on the Manning sweepstakes as well. As for Cleveland, they have Colt McCoy as their starter now, but it wouldn’t be a surprise to learn that they’re looking to upgrade. On top of that, Cleveland is in the 4th spot, so they won’t have to pay as much as Miami to move up and secure the rights to Tannehill.

There could be others, too. A lot can happen between now and draft day, plus you can never rule out the possibility of a surprise team emerging late in the process. If Denver misses out on Manning, could they be candidates to trade up for Tannehill? How about Arizona, Buffalo or Kansas City?

So as has been the case for months, the Vikings are in a great spot as holders of the #3 overall pick. And they have well over a month before the NFL draft to figure out how to maximize their great position. As explained last week, the ideal scenario is for the Browns to feel compelled to trade up one spot to block other teams further down in the 1st round from doing so, which will net the Vikings draft-pick compensation while moving them down just one spot so they can still get their player of choice.


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43 Responses to “Trade Demand For Vikings #3 Pick Still A Good Possibility”

  1. By Mike B. on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t think we trade down to anyone other than the Browns. We need to assure that we get Kalil on the team. If one of the other teams wanted to sell the farm for that #3 pick that’s another story though. I don’t think that will happen as Tannehill is not the calibre of QB as Luck or RG3.

    I know that Wobby doesn’t have room to post all comments to vikings dot com, but he left out the frustrations all of us are feeling during this FA time. I have a feeling this was intentional and doesn’t reflect balanced reporting. There are upset fans and this site for the fans should report on those frustrations. Many of us don’t have the football credentials that Spielman or Frazier have, but have the good common sense to know what makes a good solid team. I like Wobby and I didn’t expect him to post my email, but I think you should have big enough shoulders to take some constructive criticism.

  2. By Spencer on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Hope we sign him..

    http://www.dailynorseman.com/2012/3/18/2882075/vikings-to-host-safety-oshiomogho-atogwe-this-week

  3. By sandiamond on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Wobs why the continued negativy on Stephen Hill? Nobody in the NFL circle would say he is a third round pick at best!
    It’s high risk/ high reward for the next Calvin Johnson type which a ton of teams could afford to take besides the Vikings. Calvin was under the radar with GT and their run 70% offense. Name more deep threat receivers over 6’2 that teams highly desire in position to be drafted before Hill ?

  4. By sandiamond on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    interesting Atogwe is married to Mike Singletary’s daughter. Some relief for fans knowing at least (two) free agents are coming in for visits this week!

  5. By Carl K on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    The Browns have had a top 7 pick in the first round for 4 years in a row. They have not selected a QB with any of those picks. The odds are next year they will be picking in the top ten agian.

    The question is does a small trade up for Tannelhill this year put them in a better spot than a bigger trade up next year for Barkley? Will Denver or San Fran go all out for Barkley if they don’t get Manning.

    The “Bad for Barkley” campaign is now underway. Maybe the Vikings are planning to have that first pick next year so they can trade it to Denver or San Fransico for a Kings ransom.

  6. By Mike Wobschall on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    sandiamond – The comparison to Calvin Johnson is inaccurate. Johnson was one of the most-hyped WRs in years. Hill is not. The production for Hill in college was not there, while Johnson was still able to show teams that he’d transition well to the NFL even in GT’s scheme.

    I’m not negative on Hill. A couple months ago, he was a 6th or 7th round guy. Now I’m saying he could be a 3rd round guy. I don’t think that’s negative.

  7. By 61Vikings on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Nobody plans on having the first pick next year, but if the Vikes end up with the first pick in the draft, they will take Matt Barkley and tell Ponder to take a hike!!!

  8. By 61Vikings on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    @Mike W.
    Speed kills, and this kid is fast, so based on that alone, I would take a chance on this kid and maybe in the 2nd round!! Gtech ran the ball 90% of the time, but when they threw it, they were looking for Hill and he made the best of it!! If I’m right, I think his YAC was pretty high, when he did catch the ball!!!

  9. By Carl K on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Mike, you are entitled to your opinion on Stephen Hill.. but many people had Hill graded out as a 3rd or 4th round guy before the NFL Combine.

    I have no problem selecting a WR in the 3rd round… but WHY? all the good ones will be gone! The true #1s will all be gone.

    If we move Webb to WR or sign a free agent WR… I can see waiting until the 3rd round to try and get Chris Givens or Marvin Jones… but even those guys could be off the board by pick 67.
    WE NEED A PLAYMAKER TO HELP PONDER AND HARVIN!
    Waiting until the 3rd round maybe too late my friends.

  10. By 61Vikings on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    I think the only team the Vikes will deal with on draft day will be the Rams, who I believe really want Blackmon and would take at the 3rd pick if the Vikes trade with them, because they wouldn’t want the Browns to draft him!! We would pick up the Rams 6th pick and still be able to draft Kalil and get one of their 2nd round picks, which I believe the Vikes would use to draft a CB/S and a WR, with 2 picks in the 2nd round!! This all based on the hope that the Browns or Bucs wouldn’t draft Kalil with their picks at the 4th and 5th pick!!! I think the Browns will draft T.Richardson and the Bucs will draft M.Claiborne!!

  11. By sandiamond on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    top 5 Wr ranking
    1 Blackmon projected round (1)
    2 Floyd (1)
    3 Wright (1)
    4 Hill (1-2)
    5 Jeffery (2)

    I just see a distinctive separation in talent after here. Reread wobs mmm and realized the preference he talks about for mid round wr talent

  12. By Mike B. on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    @61Vikings that’s a lot of risk to leave 2 gaps before picking Kalil. I would really wiegh what we are gaining from the trade before taking that risk. If Kalil is the type of player that is bragged about, i wouldn’t take that risk.

  13. By Mike B. on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    I think it is obvious by now that the Vikings have no interest in a tier 1 WR in FA. I don’t think there are any left anyway. I see one of two things coming either 1 Spielman decides he doesn’t want Kalil and takes Blackmon/Best availble Linemen at 2nd pick, or they take the best availible WR at their #2 pick. This still follows their helping Ponder get better policy

  14. By peter on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Not gonna happen so stop dreaming. Browns need to give McCoy some weapons not replace him. They’ve almost certainly got their eye on Blackmon. Only hope of trade is Denver if they don’t get Manning and I’d sooner take Kalil than trade that far down.

  15. By sandiamond on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Joe Adams wr/kr/pr 4 year exp 700yds 5 td’s projected round(4)
    Ryan Broyles wr/kr/pr 1200yds 2 td’s (4)
    Marquis Maze wr/kr/pr 1200 yds 1 td (5)
    Brandon Boykin cb/kr/pr 2000 yds 5 td’s (3)

    Playmakers! get Percy some help

  16. By sandiamond on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    * just return yards and td’s only

  17. By Stoney on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    #3 pick take Kalil, no brainer, biggest team need by far. Don’t reach for big risk big reward (troy Williamson).

  18. By Carl K on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Cleveland can go in a number of different directions. Blackmon, Claiborne, Kalil, Trent Richardson or Tannehill with the 4th pick. They have many holes and a frustrated fan base. I don’t think they will trade up… But I do think teams like Miami for Tannehill, Tampa Bay for Trent Richardson, or the Rams for Blackmon could happen.

  19. By Carl K on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Breaking News – Manning signs with Denver!
    Will Tebow head to Miami?

  20. By VikeFan on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Kalil is the #3 or (#4 pick Possible trade) NO BRAINER nothing else
    I am twisted, I feel that we have 3rd round receivers sitting on the sidelines and on practice. SO
    do we pick WR in 2nd round to me I just dont see enough 2nd round WR talent to push out a possible 2nd round pick for the defensive secondary.
    I guess overall I am saying the team has better WR’s than DB’s, not by much but better.
    1) Kalil
    2) Harrison Smith or other
    3) Best WR available (yeah yeah, back to 3rd round) but what to do. They need a BIG and FAST wr.
    The remainder I would say to go BPA focusing on defense.

  21. By Rogerthevikefan on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Trade with the Bucs if they want Claiborne. Brown Holmgren loves getting DBs early and would pass on Blackmon. So the Bucs may want to jump ahead and get Claiborne. Then Browns get Richardson. Vikings still get Kalil.

  22. By Rogerthevikefan on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    The only trade should be with the Bucs the may want Claiborne. The reasoning is that Browns Holmgren loves getting DBs early so would likely chose Claiborne. So Bucs move up get Claiborne. Browns get Richardson. Vikings still get Kalil and pick up a extra 2nd.

  23. By Rogerthevikefan on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    First time it didn’t post so re-wrote it and then first one posts.

  24. By Larry on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    We need to make a push for Laron Landry.

  25. By Rogerthevikefan on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Landry is brittle. Give me the money and it will produce the same as signing Landry.

  26. By Rogerthevikefan on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Draft CB Josh Norman in the 3rd. He is a big physical ball hawking corner. At the East-West shrine game practices he was diving all over for the ball.

  27. By da bizz on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    i dont see the browns trading up one spot cause we already have ponder. if we trade lower we then risk getting kalil. take kalil and move on. if da browns want him that bad charge them both 4+ 22, we’d get kalil and a chance at a top rated wr at 22.

  28. By Rogerthevikefan on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Any news on OG/T Geoff Schwartz?

  29. By larsoeri on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    only the Vikings would do something like trading up to the three spot for a mediocre QB. No team will do this… none; typical of the Vikings to assume a team would do something as stupid as they did last draft (reach to take a lousy QB b/c they panicked)…

  30. By Rogerthevikefan on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Wr A. J. Jenkins is 6 foot, runs a 4.3 40, runs amazing route, and has solid hands. He is a mid-late round guy. He would be a great complement to Harvin and hopefully Stephen Hill.

  31. By Rogerthevikefan on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    On the LB front Tulloch and Lofton want 9 million a year so F**K NO.

  32. By Rogerthevikefan on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Wr Ryan Bryoles was consider one of the top 5 wrs in this draft class till he tore his ACL. He is an amazing slot receiver. Bryoles still can be awesome but it will take a year for him to get up to full speed. Likely a late round pick because of injury.

  33. By Rogerthevikefan on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Landry signed with the Jets.

  34. By mnsoldier on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Had the vikings not been dumb last year(letting peterson play again) they could have used him for trade bait. our backs did a good job when he was gone and with some O line help we could make a good push,
    peterson could easily gotten us a couple of first rounders or a handful of 2nd and 3rd rounders which would allow us to rebuild. our secondary terrible and needs lots of help now.

  35. By Carl K on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Roger –
    Schwartz did not sign with the Vikings and is on his way to the 49ers. The 49ers lost Adam Snyder their starting RG to Arizona in free agency.

    I think the Vikings have zero chance landing Schwartz. Schwartz is the top OL available and the 49er are willing to spend money.

  36. By Carl K on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Corey Graham was a 4 year starter at the University of New Hampshire where he collected 302 career tackles and 12 int (3 of them he returned for TDS). He also returned 65 kickoffs for 1,787 yards and 2 TDs. 27.4 yard return average.

    For the Bears last season he had 16 tackles and 3 ints as a BACKUP!

    Graham has great size at 6’0 195 and is only 26 years old. Graham is a Pro Bowl special teams guy that is ready to produce as a starter.

    SPIELMAN, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?????

  37. By Rogerthevikefan on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    That blows.

  38. By Rogerthevikefan on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Instead of OLine they get a FB.

  39. By Carl K on Mar 20, 2012 | Reply

    If Miami trades up to #3 for Tannehill.
    According to the NFL draft value chart Minnesota would could get pick #8, pick #42, and pick 73 from Miami. Miami would be plus 95 points. (late round tweeking would need to be done to even things out)

    So what would the top 8 picks look like:
    #1 Luck
    #2 RG3
    #3 Tannehill
    #4 Cleveland – Blackmon
    #5 TB – Trent Richardson
    #6 Rams – Matt Kalil or Mo Claiborne
    #7 Jacksonville – Quinton Coples
    #8 Vikings – Mo Claiborne or Kalil

    Can you imagine if we got Claiborne at #8 and had pick 35, 42, 67, 73 plus all our late round picks.

  40. By billmarchetti on Mar 20, 2012 | Reply

    CARL K INTERESTING,ALBEIT, UNLIKELY. THEY ALSO SUPPOSEDLY LOOKING AT A 3RD AND 4TH AS COMPENSATORY PICKS. CLAIBORNE, JOSH ROBINSON, ZACH BROWN,ALSHON JEFFERY ALL WOULD BE IN PLAY WITH THAT SCENARIO 3 OF THEM 4 WOULD BE NICE START TO REBULDING

  41. By jlangley89 on Mar 20, 2012 | Reply

    I was looking at the possibility of miami giving up their 1st and 2nd this year and their 1st next year if they absolutely fall in love with tannehill and then with the #8 pick should richardson still be there contacting the bengals giving up their 21st overall and this years 2nd with next years 1st as well. that would be amazing to me having 1 first round this year and three second rounders and having 3 1st rounders and 2 2nd rounders next year. of course that would never happen but would be amazing if it did.

  42. By jamesnieman on Mar 23, 2012 | Reply

    I would like to see the Vikings trade back with the browns and pick up their 2nd rd pick, take Khalil and with their 2 2nd rd picks take WR A. Jefferies, CB. A. Dennard. Get a DT J. Crick in the 3rd. Starter WR, CB, AND DT

  43. By aj kir on Mar 24, 2012 | Reply

    I hope vikings trade this pick or take blackman. No one will trade im sure since the price of moving up is so expensive and there is no true # 3 pick. This seems to be the story of the minnesota teams. The T-wolves always 1 pick away from getting there guy. Just dont take a lineman with # 3 pick use 2nd and 3rd rounds for this. Also free agents ol

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