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Carlson Will Help Vikings Join A Trend

Posted by Mike Wobschall on March 15, 2012 – 7:24 pm

The addition of John Carlson hasn’t been the kind of flashy move that inspires fans on the second day of free agency, but it is an acquisition that improves the Vikings offense and is the latest sign that the team is looking to add young, talented pieces to the offensive puzzle around QB Christian Ponder.

The Vikings entered the offseason with significant needs at both DB and WR as well as along the OL, and those needs remain. But with Jim Kleinsasser retiring and Visanthe Shiancoe on the free agent market, TE was also a need for the Vikings. It’s less of a need now, with Carlson improving the depth chart and serving as a nice bookend to fellow Notre Dame alum Kyle Rudolph.

Speaking of the depth chart, the Vikings still have some work to do at TE. Rudolph is not on the team because of his blocking ability, and Carlson will not make anyone forget about Kleinsasser’s game-changing run-blocking skills. The Vikings will likely search for a burly, hard-nosed TE with a late-round draft choice in April or in undrafted free agency.

As for Carlson and Rudolph, you can bet the Vikings will put both of them to good use in 2012 and beyond. Dual-TE sets are trending upward in the NFL, with New England being the trend-setter after TEs Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez gave opposing defenses headaches all season. While Carlson and Rudolph won’t make that duo blush quite yet, it’s clear Rudolph has the ability to be a top-flight NFL TE and Carlson is already an established pass-catcher at this level after setting Seattle single-season franchise records for receiving yards and receiving TDs by a TE.

On top of having the personnel, the Vikings also have the philosophy to join the dual-TE trend. In his first season as the Vikings offensive coordinator, Bill Musgrave was not averse to using multiple-TE formations, as the Vikings ranked tied for 8th in 2-TE sets and 7th in 3-TE sets. I’d expect those numbers to remain the same in 2012 at minimum, but most likely increase. Also keep in mind that quality, reliable pass-catching TEs are a nice security blanket for young, inexperienced QBs.

All-in-all, the addition of Carlson won’t send the Vikings to the Super Bowl next season. No free-agent signing does that. But it does address a team need and it fits the theme of getting younger and putting quality pieces around the young QB.


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148 Responses to “Carlson Will Help Vikings Join A Trend”

  1. By Mike B. on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    M Shuler is a TE what is his role

  2. By Spencer on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Good player, bad signing. We have no #1 Wr, the line is in shambles and the secondary is just pathetic. We would have been better off saving our money.

    Also, can we please go after Chaz Schilens? 6’4, 43in, 4.39/40. Hes visiting every team but us. Give him a call !

  3. By KoN on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    How good is Schilens? His stats aren’t anything special. Is that just because he didn’t get a chance, or are teams seeing something that isn’t there?

  4. By Spencer on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Hes injury prone, and he never had consistant Quarterback. He had arugbly the worst QB ever throwing him the ball. So he never put up good stats.

    I just think he has a huge upside and loads of potential. He reminds me of a faster version of Sidney Rice.

  5. By JD24 on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    How about J Simpson wr from cin, he’s 6’2″, fast, and can jump over people!

  6. By KoN on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    I like Simpson as well, but he is in legal trouble right now. So most teams will probably avoid him.

  7. By KoN on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    I mean I like him as a player, don’t know anything about his character.

  8. By Parody on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Wow…Cook is acquitted and we come out with a second consecutive article about a TE. Wobby needs to start figuring out how to give the people what they want….that’s what good reporters do, isn’t it?

  9. By Mike on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry…but this entire post was written as if it’s in defense of a move that really doesn’t make that much sense. It doesn’t matter how many puzzle pieces you place around Ponder if the defense can’t get off the field. The Vikings need defensive backs and linesbackers (assuming EJ goes). It’s so frustrating that the need hasn’t yet been addressed..

  10. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    And good bartenders.

  11. By Spencer on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Right now I believe Asher Allen is the starting Right CB. So all teams will do is put their best WR on Asher and just have a field day.

    Its a passing league, and we cant even defend the pass. How does getting another TE help anything?

  12. By Roninmn.. on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Lets see what the draft picks bring us, before throwing everyone under the bus. Carlson is a great player for our offense.

  13. By TITUS on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer– I ran off to Costco, and voila, a new blog. What did I tell you?

  14. By Mike B. on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    throwing spielman under there first

  15. By TITUS on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Bills made a very nice acquisition today. YAY! I hope to see one of my two teams win the big one.

  16. By Jon on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Nice, a backup tight end. That will save us.

  17. By Spencer on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    They still have Ryan Fitzpatrick..

  18. By DFish on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    It’s not like we fans are idiots, I think most of us if not all realize that a playoff run much less Super Bowl contention is more than just a long shot. But really Mike, you shoudlnt come and post articles specifically stating that the Vikings moves so far won’t lead to a Super Bowl. Your not only discrediting specific players, but your discrediting the team, the coaching staff and the fans by making such statements.
    I think we would all like to hope the Vikings could field a play of caliber team next year, or at least field a team that could have a legitimate shot at it; otherwise what’s the point?

  19. By TITUS on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Mario Williams to the Bills. Someone knows what they are doing over there– Jim Kelly apparently helped in the process.

  20. By Carl K on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Peter King thinks Ryan Tannehill could be drafted in the top 5.
    The Browns could take Ryan with the 4th pick. So if Miami, Seattle, Denver or Arizona really want a franchise QB like Tannehill, they might want to make deal to move up to the Vikings #3 spot.

    If Ryan has a strong pro day… The Tannehill talk will start to he up.

  21. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    “All-in-all, the addition of Carlson won’t send the Vikings to the Super Bowl next season”…………..It’s a good thing I read that, I was going to bet my house.

  22. By Woodboat on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    DFish… The point is they are trying to improve this squad. If you think all 32 teams that start the season have a legitimate shot at the playoffs, you are sadly mistaken.

    Spencer… just because TE wasn’t on your wishlist doesn’t make this a bad signing. I’d like to see our locker room flooded with new O Lineman and DBs, myself, but Carlson is still going to be a welcome addition. If I read your posts right, any player that isn’t a pass defender isn’t worth signing?

    Parody… Wobbs isn’t a reporter. He’s a public relations guy.

  23. By Mike B. on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    @DFish it is the path the entire organization has taken. Spielman is trying to field of team that will win some games. They should be trying to win all games otherwise don’t play. It seems the entire organization is resign to not make a playoff run, so it won’t. You will play to the level of expectation. I think we are lucky to win as many games as we did in 2011. I didn’t expect them to make a splash in FA, but definately find Key pieces. WR, CB, or even a Guard would be expected. They got a #2 TE. It’s like slapping the fans faces. Then to put shine on top of this pile by saying they are getting pieces together is another slap. Come on Mike let’s report it as it is. Disappointing.

  24. By Woodboat on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    I liked the bit I heard on ESPN radio about the success of teams that sign big money FAs in reaching the Superbowl. It boiled down to “They don’t”. Top teams build through taking value guys and through the draft, ala the Patriots, Steelers, etc…

  25. By TITUS on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Nice post Woodboat.

  26. By Mike B. on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    but they do pick up pieces in FA like Farve from Atlanta to Green Bay. Even NE added older def players with gas still in the tank to help them win superbowls. To say you don’t win by adding pieces in FA is also wrong. You need the draft and FA to bring the pieces together to field a winning team.

  27. By Spencer on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Woodboat- Is Rudolph a good TE? Yes. Do we have a #1 WR? No. Is the o-line good? No. Is the secondary good? No.

    So yes, signing another TE is a bad signing, and rather pointless. Why are we not fixing our needs?

  28. By Mike B. on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    add the fact they paid too much for a #2 TE.

  29. By Kristofer Debenedictis on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    once again vikings address a need not as important as a number 1 wide our or a great saftey/ corner. Y would they, that would imply that they want to win a super bowl which clearly has never been there intention and have this d bag try to make signing a no body tight end sound good

  30. By Mike B. on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    some of us know the difference between shinola and the other stuff and it smells

  31. By TITUS on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, relax– having two young big athletic TEs will serve us well. They act as receivers most of the time anyway, so it will be good for us. Rudolph and Carlson. I do recall joking that we would pick up more TEs a couple months ago– but it is not so bad. Be patient and let’s see what our team is in a couple months–

  32. By Kristofer Debenedictis on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    and i love the fact that now the popular topic of choice for this idiot is about how good teams build through the draft, when WE SUCK AT DRAFTING!!!!!!!!

  33. By TITUS on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    True, Mike B, very true. 25 M?

  34. By Mike B. on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    They can’t blow this first pick in the draft but the rest who knows.

  35. By Spencer on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    What good will the athletic,receiving TEs be if Ponder can not step into his throws???

  36. By TITUS on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, we will pick up Kalil in the draft– it will work out, relax. Spielman and Company know what they are doing— Mike Wobs says so.

  37. By Spencer on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    I hope some sarcasm is sprinkled into your post, Titus.

  38. By TITUS on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B– let’s hope so– when I wrote my last post, inside I wondered if we really will get Kalil? We won’t know till draft day.

  39. By DaVikeFan on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Seems like the Vikes cant get interests from WRs…i guess better to get a good pass catching TE than being forced to sign low grade #3 type receivers. Patriots have Gronk & Hernandez supported by non marquee WRs…we’re kinda like that (except they got Brady at the helm). Hope a stud WR slips to us when we pick in 2nd. I really think the O-line will be taken care of.

  40. By TITUS on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    This year’s team will surprise a lot of fans.

  41. By Mike Wobschall on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Amen, Woodboat.

    I think people are right that we have specific needs (WR, CB, OL), but people also have to realize that you can’t just start signing guys that play those positions because you need to fill holes. You have to find the right players. And you have to have a plan. You can’t fix everything at once. Also, drafting players is a better way to fix problems than filling them with free agents. Look at the Eagles from last year – the “Dream Team” that signed everyone in free agency last year. They were 8-8, and now this year they are re-signing players (D-Jax, Herremans, Trent Cole) and they are not big players in free agency. They’ve learned their lesson. Long story longer, you all are right that we have those specific needs, but you also have to be more patient and give the team time to address those needs the proper way.

  42. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    You would think that we would get a lot of interest from WRs, because in practice, against our DBs, they would all look like Jerry Rice.

  43. By Mike Wobschall on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Also, just because you have certain needs at certain positions, that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t add talented players at other positions as well. You always want to try and upgrade your roster at any position when the right guy comes along.

  44. By TITUS on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    I am with you Wonschall. Patience. I trust we are on the right path.

  45. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Be more patient. I’ve ” been patient ” since 1968.

  46. By TITUS on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Oops– Wobschall

  47. By TITUS on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Wobbles is in DA HOUSE!

  48. By KoN on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Relax guys, Spielman knows how to draft. He drafted what the Dolphins needed in the single draft that has been under his control in 2004. I trust history over wild speculation.
    BTW, the Dolphins needed o-lineman and defensive backs; he used five of the team’s six draft picks that year on o-line and DBs.

  49. By rye on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    The court system has done more so far than the vikings front office in free agency. Cook showed some good stuff last year before he was arrested. Hopefully he will learn from this experience and straigten out his act a little bit.

    I like the TE pickup. I think it will strengthen the offense, but I think most people are tired of all the blog posts about it. We will get excited about this guy when he performs on the field. All the fans are looking for holes to be filled like CB, Safety, Offensive Line.

  50. By JPNYC on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    ah…to have another Zimmerman and Mcdaniel!

  51. By Spencer on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    I dont think we should fix everything at once but c’mon, can we at least fix ONE thing? Id rather us overpay for OJ Atogwe. That way we are at least taking steps in the right way to correcting the teams problems.

  52. By Parody on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Woodboat – PR is just a different kind of reporting. They’re still there to deliver what the public wants, just so long as it is in line with the interests of the organization. We just had our top draft pick from 2010 be acquitted of a serious felony that has been big news for the organization for months. How can that not be more worthy of an article than a second consecutive post about a TE?

  53. By KoN on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    This’ll cheer up all of the gusy who are whining some.

    http://vikingsterritory.com/2012/freeagency/vikings-line-up-monday-visit-with-young-lineman

  54. By KoN on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    And maybe this as well:

    http://vikingsterritory.com/2012/freeagency/vikings-interested-in-a-free-agent-cornerback#comment-1155

  55. By xvike on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Ok at first i thought it was a good signing because we only had 2 TE’s on the roster. Now when i think about it, Kyle Rudolph will be the number one TE next year and i don’t think even he makes 5 mil a year…. Could’ve added an additional 2mil per year to bring one of the top CB’s on the market. Carr signed with dallas for 7mil per year for 5 years. And we bring in a back up TE for 5 mil/year?? I’d rather have a n experienced CB playing than a rookie CB.

  56. By Carl K on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Tannehill will work out on March 28th.
    Things could get interesting for the Vikings if Seattle Miami and Cleveland all want this kid.

    Cleveland’s 4 and 22 pick wasn’t good enough to land RG3 but it would land Tannehill.

    The only way it happens is if Cleveland is afraid the Vikings will take an offer from Miami or Seattle.

  57. By Shawn on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    By rye on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply
    The court system has done more so far than the vikings front office in free agency. Cook showed some good stuff last year before he was arrested. Hopefully he will learn from this experience and straigten out his act a little bit.

    _________________________________________________________________

    LOL …. made me think the judge told the jurors “Look Spielman is really scr’ewin the pooch. We need a not guilty verdict. baroooo “

  58. By Sixkings on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    The packers aquired Farve through a trade

  59. By GrandDaddyPurp on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Geoff Schwartz would be an upgrade

  60. By KoN on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Yes Favre was traded to the Packers, just as Jared Allen was to the Vikings; trading is not free agency.

  61. By VegasVike on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    If you have and O line like ours all you can do is shore up the short game. No sense in getting a “streach” WR when you have a QB with a weak arm . (sorry, but prove me wrong) besides, every snap I saw last year CP was bootlegging BACKWARDS for his life, making the short pass game longer. @ TITUS, did I spell ‘streach’ correctly? It looks wrong…

  62. By Shawn on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    did my geoff schwarz post show up? right under KoN?

  63. By VegasVike on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Stretch??? Da mn vodka

  64. By Shawn on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    LOL Vegas

  65. By xvike on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    I have to agree that ponder does have a weak arm. One of the reasons why he got picked off however many times against the packers. Simple 7-8 yard throws to his recievers/TE’s and it gets picked off because he floats it to them…..

  66. By AFVIKFAN on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Atogwe scheduled to visit with Vikes according to NFL.com.

  67. By VegasVike on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Thought I’d chime in Shawn, I’ve been paying attention and observing but haven’t seen much need to blog. Seems like a lot of blog bantering going on in the off season. Not many constructive comments, just insults lol

  68. By KoN on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    No Shawn, your post did not shw up. At least not for me.

  69. By Big Head on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    the great Parody– has all the answers. Need a ladder for that horse?

  70. By VegasVike on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    @xvike- yes the arm was always a concern, even before the draft. The weak O line never allowed the opportunity to expose it. Maybe this year

  71. By 25yearsaViking on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Youth movement indeed. I just looked at the roster update. Minus the kicking team. Winfield (34) and Williams (31), everyone else is 29 or younger. We could be the youngest and (insert text here) team by the time training camp starts.

  72. By VegasVike on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    At least we should have Cook back, he should be able to put a stranglehold on the opposing WR’s….
    Nova??

  73. By Shawn on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    thanx KoN … I made a post about Geoff Schwarz looking like an interesting find

    6’6″ 330lbs guard 19nfl starts and only 25

  74. By Shawn on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    lol vegas … i think we are becoming a family. sometimes we fight :)

  75. By Shawn on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer started it :)

  76. By VegasVike on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Thars funny Shawn, I’ve actually been working a lot therefore I haven’t been able to get my timing right. I see all the blogs but I’m too late to aggravate. Like now, I made a great Cook joke but Nova is probably sleeping

  77. By Big Head on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Enlighten us all Parody.

  78. By DRS on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings stadium bill stalls

    Posted by: Mike Kaszuba under Funding, Minnesota governor, Gov. Mark Dayton, Minnesota legislature, Minnesota state senators, State budgets Updated: March 14, 2012 – 7:16 PM

    By JENNIFER BROOKS AND MIKE KASZUBA

    The new Vikings stadium bill got its first hearing Wednesday in the Legislature, but got no closer to construction.

    After nearly two hours of debate and testimony, the Senate Local Government and Elections Committee abruptly opted against a vote on the bill, after several members from both parties expressed significant concerns about it. Bill sponsor Sen. Julie Rosen, R-Fairmont, insisted however that the postponed vote was not a setback..

    http://www.startribune.com/politics/statelocal/142673835.html

  79. By DRS on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    Wednesday March 14, 2012 – 10:26 PM

    Proposal for new Vikings stadium off to rough start

    The Sports Xchange

    The proposal for the Minnesota Vikings’ new stadium barely made it past kickoff Wednesday.

    The first committee hearing in the Minnesota State Senate was swamped with complaints from both political parties, forcing negotiators to rework the near $1 billion stadium proposal, according to the Minneapolis Star Tribune.

    Minnesota House Speaker Kurt Zellers has the ability to derail the legislation himself, if he does not approve a procedural exemption by Friday. If Zeller shuts down the legislation by not providing the exemption, there is conjecture team owners could seek to move the Vikings.

    One of the sticking points of the bill is whether or not the state should pay its $398 million portion of the bill by allowing electronic bingo and pulltabs in Minnesota’s bars and restaurants. State officials say doing so would raise $62.5 million annually. If the estimates are incorrect, taxpayers could be responsible for the difference.

    Negotiators told the Star Tribune that they were working on a backup plan in case charitable gambling revenue fell short. The lack of a clear fix should the gambling revenue not reach the anticipated total made lawmakers concerned.

    The Star Tribune reports the stadium would be built at the site of the Metrodome in downtown Minneapolis with $427 million from the Vikings, $398 million from the state and $150 million from Minneapolis. The Vikings would also contribute $327 million to the stadium’s operation and capital expenses, and the city would kick in another $189 million

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/17801949/proposal-for-new-vikings-stadium-off-to-rough-start

  80. By DRS on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    My question is how long will it be before the Vikings are forced to move by the NFL, the other NFL owners will stop subsidizing the Vikings someday soon, There is one more year left in the dome, then what if Minnesota cannot get its act together, another LAKER, and North Stars?

  81. By DRS on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Well good night, it is 2400 hours NM time so off to bed I go, have a great day everyone and God bless you all.

  82. By Rogerthevikefan on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Cook getting freed lessens the need for a corner but not totally. While there is a huge gap in the LB core. Resign Erin Henderson. Look into Seahawks Hawthorne and Falcons Lofton for the MLB spot.

  83. By Rogerthevikefan on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I know signing a 33 year old DT doesn’t fit with the youth movement but John Henderson is a very good run stuffing DT and likely would come cheap. He is better than Remi.

  84. By GrandDaddyPurp on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Expect at the least a 4 game suspension for Chris Cook

  85. By Rogerthevikefan on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    CBs Josh Norman(R3) and Coryell Judie(R4) would be great additions to the Vikings through the draft. Getting both would be awesome but just one would mean Ash could go get burnt by an oven instead of Wrs.

  86. By Rogerthevikefan on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Lofton is similar to Ray Lewis in that he sets the tone for the Defence.

  87. By wacky on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    HHH

  88. By Rogerthevikefan on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Nfl spokesman Greg Aiello said that the Nfl will not pursue punishment.

  89. By Rogerthevikefan on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    The Addams Family is frickin awesome.

  90. By Rogerthevikefan on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I ran out of things to say.

  91. By CaribooBill on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I would suggest that Carlson could be the #1 TE. He and Rudolph will be competing for the #1 position, if there is even such a thing. In a two or three TE set, who is #1, who is #2 and who is #3??? It does seem that he was paid a lot, but how can you tell? How much of the 5M per year is guaranteed and how much is bonuses based on performance? We haven’t been given that info.

  92. By Rocksalt on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.startribune.com/politics/statelocal/142876905.html
    Evidently MN Repub House Speaker Kurt Zellers prefers to sit idly by and do nothing to assist the stadium plan……Gee, I am shocked! Republicans being obstructionist?? Who woulda thunk it?

  93. By RichardA1 on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    A average homegrown receiver signed, why are they trying to sell us on the thrill of having a player from MN signed? I think the new stadium s–ks, yeah to getting a new stadium but a roof on it, where is the retractable they promised us for the last 10 years? Playing indoors is not nearly as good as indoors, I hope the deal does not go thru until they get the retractable roof we were told we would be getting. Indoor football s–cks, half the games can be played with no roof, Boo Vikings!

  94. By ozzinator on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Rock, only libs woulda thunk it.

  95. By Woodboat on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    ozz…

    Only libs would call a spade a spade. Reps have set a record for the number of fillibusters and have obstructed the Prez whether it’s been good for the country or not. It’s their strategy to get back in power… don’t get ruffled when it gets pointed out by the opposition.

  96. By Woodboat on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t think they are trying to sell us anything, Rich. I think they are just giving us access by reporting and interviewing Carlson. I’d be willing to bet they don’t think this hire makes us Superbowl contenders….

  97. By Carl K on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I can’t complain about 2 very good young TEs.

    Carlson, Rudolph, and Sully are all from Notre Dame. Now if we can draft SS Harrison Smith from Notre Dame… the luck of the Irish just might fall on the Vikings.

  98. By thenaj17 on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Why so much negativity on this signing. True he’s no world beater but he is replacing an outgoing free agent in Shiancoe and is younger. It’s not 1st or even 2nd priority but it is still a spot on the roster that we NEED.

    It can’t be wasted money if it was just going on Shiancoe anyway.

    The FO has started to make some really good moves releasing expensive, dead waste (Herrera, Hutch, Griffin) and i’m sure there will be more positive changes. They have also all but confirmed we are drafting Kalil to sure up the line and stated Cook will be given another chance, which helps our secondary loads.

    Be patient and stick together by supporting our team instead of bashing them all the time!

  99. By aussie61 on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Chill out guys! Alot of you should read Mike Florios piece on PFT.Florio says,and I agree,the smart teams are waiting for the dust to settle before doing too much in FA.Teams like the Bucs and Redskins have rushed in and thrown loads of money around but does anybody really believe that all these signings will work out? I don’t because history shows us that they never do,there will be some busts.One more thing to ponder (no pun intended),the league has to hand down punishments in the bounty saga,and if they decide to punish ALL the teams that Williams coached then the Redskins could be in for a big surprise.RGIII may not be a Redskin after all.

  100. By Parody on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Another under the radar player in the Vikings’ sights?
    http://www.dailynorseman.com/2012/3/16/2876914/minnesota-vikings-might-feel-the-power-of-geoff-schwartz

  101. By SAN JOSE VIKINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    We need a huge shake up more bigger then the portland fail blazers. We need richerdson from alabama come on man “M.V.”

  102. By ozzinator on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Woody,
    The Repubs have obstructed the Pres. because nothing he has done or tries to do is good for the country, period.

  103. By Spencer on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Youre joking right…..we’re going after Allen Ball?????

  104. By Spencer on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    “I don’t even know what I’m going to say to them,” he said. “Most likely I’ll just show them proof [I can be trusted] instead of talking. … I feel I’m a person that’s very trustworthy. And I know it might take some time to earn the trust of the organization and the fans. But I’m willing to do whatever it takes.” People said, ‘At least you’re still getting paid,’ but that didn’t make me happy,” Cook said. “Playing football makes me happy. I just felt a void. I didn’t feel like me.”

  105. By Anthony on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Oj Atogwe will be visiting the vikings today!

  106. By NorthwoodsVikesFan on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    After watching Path To The Draft last night and seeing all the FA signing elsewhere, I have to politely ask you guys to stop saying “We should go after (player named here)” – because EVERY SINGLE PLAYER you’ve suggested has signed with someone else shortly after.

    You’re jinxing us.

    BTW, anyone else see a trend? We sign a TE that couldn’t play last year d/t a shoulder injury…..now we’re talking to a lineman that couldn’t play last year d/t a hip injury.

    It’s crazy to expect that we can sign top talent – they need too much money, and we have neither money nor contending potential at the time.

  107. By Shawn on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I like the Geoff Schwarz idea … hes a 25 year old guard with 19 NFL starts and hes huge 6’6″ 330lbs. Hes not going to get a huge guaranteeed deal but he might start at RG which gives me hope that Charlie Johnson wont be playing LG just because we dont have a choice … if Charlie cant than Fusco, DeGeare, or Berger can …

    If we get Antogwe and Schwarz …. i will feel better about free agency and look forward to the draft

    Spielman might be ok after all … time will tell

  108. By NorthwoodsVikesFan on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    GDP – I wouldn’t bet on that 4-game suspension:

    “As for potential NFL punishment with Cook’s arrest last October seemingly putting him in violation of the league’s personal conduct policy, there doesn’t figure to be any reprimand.

    In an e-mail to the Star Tribune, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said, “We will review the facts, but we do not expect league discipline in this matter.”

    Mike B – you were totally correct:

    “Cook missed the Vikings’ final 10 games of 2010. He was in jail during the team’s Week 7 loss to Green Bay and suspended the next weekend when the Vikings won at Carolina. But the Vikings then reinstated him to their active roster and gave him what equated to a paid leave of absence for the second half of the season and beyond”

  109. By Shawn on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Viking additions

    CB – Chris Cook … I know he’s not an addition but at least we know for sure
    DT – Letroy Guion … 24yo who has NFL starts
    TE – John Carlson … 27yo potentially better than Shiancoe but definately as good
    QB – Sage Rosenfels … face it he’s just a veteran presence for Webb and Ponder

    hopefully

    G – Geoff Schwarz … 25yo mammoth with 19 NFL starts
    S – OJ Antogwe … 30yo could be an upgrade for a year or 2 while Raymond or a rookie is ready to start

    just need an OLB

  110. By Carl K on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Schwartz has also started games in the NFL at RT. He is a big strong solid run blocker that squat lifted over 500 lbs at Oregon . Schwartz can also do some long snapping.

    Not bad if we can pick him up.
    He will give us opitions at RT and guard if we draft Kalil as our LT.

  111. By NorthwoodsVikesFan on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Hindsight being what it is, it’s obvious to see what Spielman has been doing.

    * He knew that we couldn’t compete financially with the ‘more successful’ teams
    * He let the FA feeding frenzy happen without letting fans get their hopes up too high by going after out-of-reach players
    * He waited to see who was left, letting their insecurity grow with thoughts of not playing
    * Now, he’s seeing who is willing to sign at a lower price – the longer FA goes on and players remain unsigned, the lower the dollar amount it will take to sign them

    The downside to that strategy is that we make minor upgrades rather than major upgrades. But, hopefully it will be like the snowball rolling downhill – gathering momentum over the next 2-3 years until WE are the ones drawing the interest in the top talent.

  112. By bigpurple66 on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Another sign the vikings are lost as an organzation- no signing for needs what sense does it make to let go of hutch and bring in a inj TE- Hutch along side Kalil make sense- My hope is that they sign Mcneil LT from SD and draft Blackmon at least this is a true weapon Ponder can use and not another ND TE -

  113. By Meekay on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    What’s the deal with Erin and EJ? We don’t already have enough holes to fill? We don’t want to keep good players?

  114. By Jon on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe the Viking’s OC is planning on using a lot of 2 TE sets this year, that’s the only thing that makes sense. They know their line is terrible so they plan on stacking it up every down, and I guess are planning on relying on Harvin to be a wide out if this is true? I think he works best out of the slot for sure, but if they really are planning on something like this, then Blackmon would be a much greater need than Kalil. I hope they don’t use a 2 TE offense myself, every other time i’ve seen it in MN it’s boring. Rub first down, Run second down, Throw third down is all it becomes. Very predictable. That’s a lot of money for a Tight End though if you guys are really correct in saying he’s signed for 5 mil a year. That’s ridiculous and should show you something right there.

  115. By DRS on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Zellers walks fine line on stadium

    Article by: MIKE KASZUBA and BAIRD HELGESON , Star Tribune staff writers

    Updated: March 16, 2012 – 6:24 AM

    The pressure however is visible and comes almost daily.

    When the 70-page stadium legislation was made public a week ago, Gov. Mark Dayton’s first stop that morning was a private meeting in Zellers’ office to lobby for the stadium.

    Business leaders such as Ecolab CEO Doug Baker Jr. and U.S. Bancorp CEO Richard Davis have joined the stadium lobbying, focusing on House and Senate committee leaders and Zellers. With Dayton and Senjem already strong stadium supporters, Zellers is a major wild card. Adding to the uncertainty is that Zellers is acutely aware that approving public subsidies for a Vikings stadium does not poll well and could jeopardize the Republicans’ 72-62 majority in the House.

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/142876905.html

  116. By GM on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I like our approach to free agency so far. I’m still trying to get the bitter taste of berrian out of my mouth. Schwartz should come at a good price.

  117. By DRS on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Why should the legislature pass a stadium bill when the people of Minnesota do not see the need for a new stadium? By all the polling I have found most Minnesotan’s do not want the state to fund any stadium, they figure that it is a private endeavor, they do want to subsidize millionaire owners and players, they want their tax dollars to go to bridges and food stamp.

  118. By DRS on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    In my opinion there will be no new stadium unless the people of Minnesota get behind it, I hope I am wrong about this.

  119. By DRS on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/142780595.html

  120. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    DRS, I pray that you are wrong, but I believe, sadly, that you are dead on.

  121. By RichardA1 on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    We don’t need a hometown favorite, we need great players, players who try and put out that extra effort. Lets make this a dominate defensive team, they seem to have the best years when there defense is dominate.

  122. By DRS on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Titans land big target in free agency: G Steve Hutchinson; no Peyton Manning, at least not yet

    Article by: Associated Press Updated: March 16, 2012 – 4:24 AM

    NASHVILLE, Tenn. – The Tennessee Titans made boosting their offensive line a big focus in free agency, and they landed All-Pro guard Steve Hutchinson with a multi-year contract Thursday.

    Terms of the deal were not released.

    “Steve is a really talented player who has had a great deal of success in this league,” general manager Ruston Webster said in a statement. “I like his leadership and his toughness and he will obviously add to the overall talent of the group upfront.”

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/142849155.html

  123. By DRS on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I would bet that cook will not get as much pay as he would have gotten if he would have stayed out of trouble.

  124. By DRS on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    With the Vikings looking to rebuild this team on the cheap, who knows if they will keep cook if he demands more pay.

  125. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t think Mr. Cook is in any position to demand anything.

  126. By DRS on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe Cook would be a better value as a trade prospect, maybe the Vikings could get a couple 1st or 2nd round draft picks with a 2nd tier player from some team out there, Who knows.

  127. By DRS on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    After all we are in a rebuilding year and have many holes to fill.

  128. By Troutdaddy on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Ok, Chris Cook looks like he is going to get a break. Personally, I think people should give him a break and give him the chance to get back on track. I wish him well and hope the Vikes can utilize him. As far as Carlson goes, he fills a hole created by Shank so if he can be healthy and contribute then this is a good pickup. Rosenfels is a smart QB and can be a good mentor for our young QB’s andif we can pickup help from Kahlil in the draft and fill the rest of our holes then I think we will have a team that can compete this year. I would still like to see us pick up a WR with some of our cap money. I also hope that these bloggers who keep crying about adding players like Carlson would just chill a bit. It is not a fast-easy process and I am sure that there are some good things yet to happen. Take a chill-pill and when the draft is done, then we can all cry about it if it not to our liking…. Problem is that WE DONT DECIDE! I am actually a little energized right now about stuff. maybe it is just I am doing well on my NCAA Brackets! March Madness Baby! I Bleed Purple…. Nuf Said!

  129. By DRS on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Cook cleared, but Vikings still need more cornerbacks

    Posted by: Mark Craig under Vikings, Bears, Lions, Packers Updated:

    March 15, 2012 – 3:21 PM

    Working off the list of free agents made available by the NFL Players Association, here are the cornerbacks still available that have between four and six years of NFL experience:

    Team, Player, Experience

    NYG Blackmon, Will CB 6

    Packers Bush, Jarrett CB 6

    Bengals Jennings, Kelly CB 6

    Bears Jennings, Tim CB 6

    Saints Torrence, Leigh CB 6

    NYG Coe, Michael CB 5

    Steelers Gay, William CB 5

    Panthers Gordon, Cletis CB 5

    Bears Graham, Corey CB 5

    Jaguars Jones, David CB 5

    Bengals Jones, Pac-Man CB 5

    Lions McDonald, Brandon CB 5

    Chargers Oliver, Paul CB 5

    NYG Ross, Aaron CB 5

    Bears Bowman, Zack CB 4

    Bills Corner, Reggie CB 4

    Rams King, Justin CB 4

    Packers Lee, Patrick CB 4

    Buccaneers Mack, Elbert CB 4

    Patriots Molden, Antwaun CB 4

    Saints Porter, Tracy CB 4

    49ers Smith, Reggie CB 4

    NYG Tryon, Justin CB 4

    Broncos Wilhite, Jonathan CB 4

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/blogs/142834475.html

  130. By Matthias on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    NEW TOPIC:

    It is time to think about signing Percy for the long run (not now but maybe during the season).

  131. By DRS on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Have to go for now, Remember to have fun, and God bless you all.

  132. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    William Gay still has A.P.’s cleat marks on his face from 2 years ago.

  133. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZx7Y6LyxR4

  134. By Spencer on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Trade Cook????????

  135. By Viking-ology on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Politics once again are hurting the Viking’s. It’s sad to see such a pathetic display of commitment to the future of the franchise.
    With everything up in the air, it’s a surprise anyone in FA will talk to the Vike’s.
    Although I agree with the low-key strategy (to a certain extent) it would be nice for the rookies and the rest of thr players to know they have a home in Minny.

  136. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Matthias…

    Percy is one of at least 3 reasons the Vikings are not going hog wild in free agency…Vikings need cap space to work contract extensions for J Allen,Percy, and Robison…Some of the 24 million in cap space will allow them to do that during this up coming season…

    Hoping Spielman can put together a pretty decent team with the draft…Allen might see his name being in trade rumors middle this coming season…If the Vikings don’t win some games early on…And look closer to contending against the rest of the north division soon…

    I see the Vikings for sure looking to extend Harvin and Robison…They still will get paid nicely…But can the Vikes afford Allen ???…If the team looks like it still has awhile before it can win in a very tough division ??…

  137. By New Vike on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    @KalilOT – I am having a hard time digesting the thought of the Vikings trading Jared Allen. At first I was 100% against it, but the more i think about it and given the lack of free agent signings it seems as though maybe it wouldnt be the worst thing in the world. I think they value on him is very high and its getting to be time to find out what they have in Everson Griffin. Maybe Griffin will play OLB. I would love to keep Allen but if the Vikes are very far away from competing i think they need to role the dice which is unfortunate as Allen is one of my all time favorites.

  138. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    New Vike…

    Not really saying the Vikings are looking to trade Allen “before” the season…But if the Vikings start out slow this season with a 2-4 start…Vikings might look more for getting draft picks and sending Allen to a contending team on a super bowl run…Than looking to sign Allen to a 100 million dollar contract ???…If the team looks like it has more work to do trying to contend within the division…

  139. By Rudso on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    I have to agree with New Vike that it would be VERY hard to watch J. Allen get traded. I understand we might not be a Super Bowl contender right now but J. Allen is the only player on the Vikings defense that puts fear in to the other team’s offense.

    I’m sure you guys remember the last game vs. the Bears where they were putting THREE guys on him to prevent him from the sack record. To me, J. Allen is worth every penny. He was the ONLY player that actually showed emotion and was truly our leader on the defensive side.

    Trading J. Allen would be like trading Adrian Peterson to me. Lets be real, Allen will go to the HOF and would be nice if he did so wearing purple.

  140. By Rudso on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    Plus what would we really get for him? Maybe a 1st round pick? Maybe a later pick along with the 1st round pick but it will take a desperate team.

    The Patriots can keep their late 20′s something pick, I rather watch J. Allen pound some Cheese, push the Bear of his unicycle and show the Lion who’s really king of the jungle! SKOL VIKINGS!!!!

  141. By Vikingfan on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    i like how everyone is demanding this and that right now. The vikings have so much they need to add to their roster that it takes time. You cant just grab players left and right in a week hoping to create a superbowl team. Although 25million to carlson not good decision

  142. By san jo! vike!!!! on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    kyle rudolph the red nose rain deer!

  143. By san jo! vike!!!! on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    Trent richardson or justin blackmon either one i just hope are vikings get one of em go peoples stadium!

  144. By Bigfan1 on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    For a ball club that wants a super bowl ring why sign Lex Hilliard this guy scored one TD last year for Miami and 40 some yards rushing.

  145. By carlos1236 on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    If we were in such a desperate need for a TE why not just re-sign Shiancoe and use the money elsewhere? Makes no sense to me… We do need to get younger but also we need to develop an attitude on defense. Detroit has a nasty attitude, Chicago is known for playing hard hitting physical football, why cant we go get a hard hitter at safety like Landry from Washington, Tracy Porter from New Orleans at corner to mix in with the youth.

  146. By iceman on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    While it’s true that great teams are built through the draft, I have two problems with you fools who keep saying this:

    1) Good Free Agent Signings don’t hurt teams(i.e. Drew Brees to the Saints, Brett Favre to the Vikes, Randy Moss to the Patriots, Wes Welker to the Patriots)

    2) To build through the draft, you actually have to have a GM who knows how to draft. Spielman is an idiot and horrible at drafting. Fire him and get someone else who knows what they are doing, then maybe we can talk about rebuilding the franchise through the draft.

  147. By iceman on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    Oh yeah, add another one to point #1, Kurt Warner to the Cardinals

  148. By mixbreed on Mar 19, 2012 | Reply

    The Vikings need to trade there 2nd round pick and Ponder to the Broncos for Tim Tebow

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