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After Saturday Roster Moves, What’s Next For Vikings?

Posted by Mike Wobschall on March 10, 2012 – 3:14 pm

Coming off a 3-13 season and with a young QB they’re hoping will be the long-term answer, the Vikings entered this offseason clearly recognizing that it was time to rebuild the roster. Unfortunately, rebuilding the roster is a process that requires separating from key members of previously successful teams. And that’s exactly what the Vikings did on Saturday.

In releasing CB Cedric Griffin and OGs Anthony Herrera and Steve Hutchinson, the Vikings parted ways with three players who were all starters when the team won back-to-back division titles in 2008 and 2009 and then went to the NFC Championship Game after the ’09 season. While it’s hard to cut ties with players who were such important contributors on the field and – in the case of those three individuals – off the field as well, it’s also a necessary part of the process.

It’s been reported elsewhere that the total salary cap savings in releasing Griffin ($3.65 million), Herrera ($2.75M) and Hutchinson ($7.0M) will give the Vikings approximately $23 million in cap space to either re-sign or restructure the contracts of current players and pursue free agents on the open market. Recently I’ve been under the impression that the Vikings would not be candidates to sign a blue-chip free agent this year and would instead wait until next year – when they’re likely to be in better position to make a run – to make splashy moves. But now, with the salary cap space generated by these moves, will the Vikings take a more aggressive approach? Only time will tell.

For now, we can be sure that the Vikings are in full rebuilding mode and that the front office is clearly willing to make tough decisions to improve the product on the field. Releasing those three veteran players was indeed a tough decision, but also one that indicates a commitment to improving the roster.


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370 Responses to “After Saturday Roster Moves, What’s Next For Vikings?”

  1. By adrianjedipeterson on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings NEED Nicks from NO. He will make our line soooo much better. Now that hutch cant train Kalil we need a vet who can show our o-line rooks whats up.

  2. By Troy on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    How much worse is the Guard from the Ravens than Nicks? Because he’ll be a lot less expensive wouldn’t he?

    Right now, I’m happy with Spielmans moves. Lets see where he goes from here

  3. By schladerade on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    THIS IS A GREAT MOVE FOR THE VIKINGS. after a 3-13 season PEOPLE NEED TO GET FIRED. out with the old and in with the new. this move clears up cap space to make us a bigger force in free agency and promotes our motion towards a younger and more physical team. LOVE IT. SPIELMAN for pres

  4. By will on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    i expected griffin and herrera but not hutch i thought he would restructure his deal i guess he wants out too, now another hole to fill along with the 7 we already need…looks like we are in atleast a 5 to 7 year rebuilding project. at this pont no matter how much cap room these moves made are team just got worse

  5. By John Bowman on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    I think these moves make a lot of sense. Griffin will be missed, but the injuries took a toll, and signing him to a new contract under those conditions would be risky. Herrera was a decent right guard, but clearly they want stronger, cheaper, and younger, and the guards they have collected the last two seasons are in development, with much potential (Charlie Johnson is a great left guard, so I’m not worried at all). Hutch is the release that they will feel the most, but again, I believe Johnson can handle that position almost as well, where he should have been in the first place, not at the blindside. I believe they will draft Kalil, and that position will be solidified. If they get someone like Nicks, I truly think with just a free agent signing and a blockbuster draft pick, they shored up the protection perfectly. The rest will follow. I have a really good feeling they may contend for a playoff spot as early as next year with just a few tweaks like this. Just need a WR and a Safety.

  6. By 4eversteve on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Man I hope the Vikings aren’t done releasing from the free agents they had on their list from last season roster, from the way I see it they could release 95% of them so the salary cap room would be huge.

  7. By Mike on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Though I am a Packer fan, it is difficult for me not to wish the Vikings well. They are a storied franchise that has come so close to sealing the deal so often, only to find themselves looking and hoping that next year will be the year that their ship comes in. Hang in there Viking fans; your day in the sun will come.

  8. By Dave on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    What about Asher Allen? Please tell me that they are going to release him.

  9. By Daniel on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Hope not to miss this guys later on the season

  10. By Carlos Mason on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    I think those were good moves not happy about Hutchinson but hey if we can get at least 3 impact players between free agency and the draft and hopefully Chris Cook will be back. Maybe then we cut Winfield too

  11. By iluvbears on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    You think the Ravens will sign Hutch so they can have the whole left side of the Vikes o-line from 2006 – 2009 starting for them next year?

  12. By Heath on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Its a start.The whole secondary could go and not get any worse since the other teams were pretty much just playing run and catch all year anyway.The receivers to while there at it.brandon Carr is young and good and would be a great signing along with Pierre Garcon.I just hope they dont go Red Mccombs and dont do anything.They have three major weaknesses in the secondary,receivers and o-line.Theres plenty of good receivers and cornerbacks available to upgrade them that are still young enough to be around when the team is good again.Drafting Matt Kalil,Justin Blackmon, or Morris Claiborne would be just fine with me.

  13. By Jon on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    All good moves, more CAP room to operate. Keep on releasing the rest, get Henderson out of there too.

  14. By Jon on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    ” Recently I’ve been under the impression that the Vikings would not be candidates to sign a blue-chip free agent this year and would instead wait until next year – when they’re likely to be in better position to make a run – to make splashy moves”

    Classic small-town journalism that unfortunately I always seem to see revolving around the Vikings. Wait around for what, exactly? I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a successful team with a wait two years attitude. How about start being competitive now, especially when the free agency is crawling with talent. Last years free agency was a joke. Maybe two years from now the free agency sucks, ever think about that? Who writes this stuff, seriously.

    I like this mass releasing of older players personally, they could release a lot more still if you ask me. This is exciting that the organization is finally being aggressive like this and wasting no time, I only hope things fall into place for them in free agency.

  15. By DesertViking on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Hurts to say this but E.J has to go, but I would love to see Erin get a new deal and move him to MLB. Then move Griffen to OLB or LE. Move Winfield to Safety alongside Raymond, then cut Asher and let Burton and Sherels battle it out for the #2 CB and sign Carr. Cut Ayodele or at least make him a back up. See if any of the other DT’s we have can settle in next to Williams, if not i’m positive we can find a DT with good value in the 5 round.

  16. By vikingsfan1955 on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t get the hutch cut unless it was a money thing

  17. By vikingsfan1955 on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    We need good blockers and he was one of the best haven’t heard of his performance going down

  18. By vikingsfan1955 on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    I hope we do very well in the draft

  19. By Troy on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    I understand the vikes are in full rebuild mode and these moves are necessary. However cutting Ced Griffin is yet another High draft choice RD2 that did not pan out.Im willing to give Spielman a clean slate but he better have 2 execellent drafts in a row or he must be shown the door.

  20. By DesertViking on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    VikingsFan1955, it was more of an injury thing. The past two season he hasn’t been able to finish due to injuries and at the money he’s making it’s expected for him to play the whole year. I’m positive they’ll try to resign him with a smaller price tag.

  21. By GrandDaddyPurp on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Cedric Griffin was a good draft choice until injuries hindered his performance. Sad to see him and hutch go. But it is necessary if we are to move on out of the “win now” mentality Brad Childress brought with him.

    In Spielman I trust!

  22. By GrandDaddyPurp on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    If Winfield is going to move to safety he should have done it a couple years ago. Its too late now. Winfield will stay at CB he will not switch positions trust me.

  23. By campfrazier on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    well if we draft Kalil, we will instantly see how good he is, he will be facing the #1 Defensive end in the NFL during practice, And if he isn’t ready he will be quickly, Jared will whip him into shape.

  24. By GrandDaddyPurp on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Forget Nicks! We need to sigh Mario Williams!

  25. By GrandDaddyPurp on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    After this year the rams will have 2 first round picks 2 years in a row. They should be able to turn themselves into serious contenders because of the trade now. Management better not mess that up

  26. By GrandDaddyPurp on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    I just hope the Browns pick Justin Blackmon at #4 just to stick it to the rams sice he seems to be who the rams want.

    Of course whether they get Blackmon or not they still come out of this deal as winners

  27. By Mark B on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    I think these are some good moves – this team is in definite need of a youth injection.
    I would like to play a little devil’s advocate on the draft situation though. What about taking Blackmon with the 3rd overall then Stephen Hill (WR – GA Tech) in the second? Spielman has been hinting that with an injection of talented playmakers outside (I think both of those guys are going to be dangerous WR in the NFL) you can get by with a serviceable LT. One thing I haven’t seen discussed a whole lot is where Love is at in his development. Could he be that LT – allowing you to move Charlie Johnson in to LG? Then you have Berger and Fusco to battle it out for the RG spot. You get younger on the OL (and honestly you can’t get a whole lot worse than last year) and with the addition of Blackmon and Hill you force defenses to blitz less and cover more – taking the pressure off the OL.

  28. By Mark B on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    On another note, what about Longwell? He is getting up there and there is a couple of kickers in the draft this year that could take his place. Would also like to see a late round pick used on the FB from Wisconsin Bradie Ewing. He’s 6’1″ and 245 lbs. – a candidate to take up the slack with Kleinsasser retiring? The best part is – he played FB … at Wisconsin. In that offense, if a FB can’t or isn’t willing to go out there play after play and block for a running back (we all saw what kind of year Montee Ball had last year) he just flat out won’t play.

    Just my $0.02 …

  29. By GrandDaddyPurp on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    So what does that victory to the Redskins mean now?

    Pros:
    1. Solidify the LT position for the next 10 years.
    2. Verify the talents of Toby Gerhart, Kyle Rudolph and Joe Webb. It would be a sin to have these three on the sidelines and not in the game
    3. # 2 deserves 2 slots. Those 3 can all turn into great players for the Vikings. They were all worth it to all those that said we should have drafted other positions with the pick we used on them.

    Cons:
    1. Potential career altering injury to AD.
    2. Lose out on blockbuster deal, 3 first round picks and a second round pick.
    3. I think #2 deserves two slots. Thats alot of draft picks that could result in several cornerstone players for a franchise.

    The loss to the redskins means nothing. Shame on anyone that said we should have lost the game on purpose.

  30. By Ryan on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    very happy with the moves. hope more DB’s get let go. I like sherels, the rest we should replace. winfield good for 2 more years hopefully. Just didn’t like the effort most of them gave.

  31. By GrandDaddyPurp on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Good for the rams they got a steal of a deal. Im happy because its almost certain we will fix our LT problem with the 3rd overall pick now.

  32. By vikingsfan1955 on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    dessertviking I hope you are right and if he does resign for less we will know it’s for the love of the game and to help the team build for a good run and I think he’s that kind of man

  33. By GrandDaddyPurp on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Thoughts on Mario Williams??

    I would rather see the DE tandem of Jared Allen and Mario Williams than us sign Carl Nicks. Just my Opinion here

  34. By GrandDaddyPurp on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    On second thought. I’d rather stick it to the Aints by signing Nicks to plow over that cowardly defense they have when we do play them

  35. By tbone23 on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    cut more players Rick, including e.j. time to go young.

    mario williams will cost way too much for too litte reward. b-rob is fine we need someone besides k-will in the middle ayodleee was a waste…

    need all new secondary. skip kalil…go claiborne…

    sign meachum / colston and we are set.

  36. By jv3rnon on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    In free agency I pursue CB,OG, and WR.

  37. By Spencer on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    So Asher Allen is starting at Right CB, Winfield will be in the slot, and Benny Sapp is starting at Left CB? Our secondary is terrible.

    Its a shame that Cook felt the need to strangle Ms.Chantel Baker. He was a guy that week in and week out could be counted upon to shut down the best Wrs in the game.

    Sadly, right now we have absolutely Nobody that posesses the skill set to guard opposing teams #1 Wr.

  38. By David Bond on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Mr. Spielman \.
    Rebuild our wall and sign Carl Nicks. Also a good CB. Am I asking too much by going after WR Jackson?

  39. By Vikings Jenga Tailgater on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Moves needed to be made for the future of the team. This sets them up nicely to make a run at Nicks, Carr, & maybe a WR too. Mario Williams would cost the team too much but fun to think about him with Jared and Kevin on that D-line. Would be scary. I am really interested to find out what they decide to do with Everson Griffen.

  40. By Marc on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    I think either Carl Nicks or Ben Grubbs would look great in purple. perhaps Carr might be a cheaper fit than Finnigan, and Jackson or Lloyd would be great……….I just hope they do something! What do you think of Zeitler from Wisconsin as a second round pick? Or one of the receivers K. Wright or S. Hill??

  41. By Mark B on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    With the cap space they have now ($24 mil or so) they have the opportunity to try to sign players like Finnigan or Willian Middleton to bolster the secondary. I would only target CB’s in FA (not counting keeping the important guys who are Vikes FA) and use the draft to add talent and depth to the other spots. The more I think about it, the Vikes could move DLove to the starting LT spot, slide Johnson inside to the LG, Sully at C, Berger/Fusco at RG, Loadholdt at RT could be a decent OL if they add some receivers that can force teams to cover vs blitzing all the time. It also brings into the picture drafting Blackmon 3rd overall and Stephen Hill at 35.

  42. By TheWall on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    The Rams and Skins traded picks. Rams get this years 1st and 2nd and the next two years 1st. Skins get RGIII. So Kalil will be waiting to join the Vikings April 26th. resign Erin Henderson and go after Brandon Carr and Richard Marshall. Either would be great additions to the team.

  43. By dumber on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Loosing one more game last year, would have gotten them much more…

  44. By Mike R. on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    test

  45. By Mike R. on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Mark B

    We don’t know about Love because he was always inactive. I thought he was a good value pick. Now I wonder…,

  46. By Mike R. on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    2010 USC o-line allowed 16 sacks

  47. By Mike R. on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    2011 USC o-line allowed only 8 sacks

  48. By Mike R. on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    2011 Kalil without T Smith Cowboys and B Lewis Vikings PS.

  49. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    I look forward to a winning season and to see what Ponder can do.

  50. By Spencer on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Winning season? Titus, we cant even defend the pass in a passing league.

  51. By vikemike on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Nicks is going to be way to expensive for the Vikings, they have way to many holes to fill to spend half of it on 1 guy,

  52. By rino on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    nicks amd williams and jackson come on vikings

  53. By campfrazier on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    and why is Remi (worthless) Ayodele still on the roster, cut him also. he hasn’t done didly poo and he is gonna get suspended for some games also, so it will be like he is there but he won’t be.

  54. By DesertViking on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Mark B., you bring up an interesting scenario, but I highly doubt that Stephen Hill’s going to fall to 35.

  55. By Mike R. on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Zeitler from Wisconsin was surrounded by Konz and Ogletree (sp) and opened up holes for Ball.
    Here he would have to learn the guy next to him isn’t going to have his back.
    I still think value pick is G Joel Foreman Michigan State. In 2011,he was only senior on line that saw Kirk Cousins sack total drop from 20 to 15.

  56. By KoN on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    I like the idea of picking up Brandon Carr as well as a 2nd tier CB and a relatively cheap 1st or 2nd tier WR. I don’t like the idea of V Jax. He’s a great player, but he is going to ask for so uch money, especially since he will most definetely be the product of a bidding war. Also, we don’t need to add a 29 year-old WR when we’re going for a youth movement. I say we go after someone like Meachem, Manningham or Garcon. They may not be as good as V Jax, but I would rather have a pretty good player for 7-9 years than an really good one for 3-5. Look at the Packer’s recieving corps; no one exceptional, but no one bad either.

  57. By KoN on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Have you given up on Cook, Spencer?

  58. By campfrazier on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Kalil 1st rnd,
    Free Agency
    WR Meachem or Manningham.
    and CB Brandon Carr or Cortland Finnegan
    2nd Rnd DT
    3rd Rnd CB
    4th Rnd WR and………………….

  59. By Spencer on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Sleeper pick. Chaz Schilens. WR. 6’4. 220. 43in vertical. 4.39/40. 25yrs old.

    The Raiders will most likely release him. He has the potential to be a faster version of Sidney Rice.

  60. By Spencer on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Kon- Yeah, ive given up all hope on Cook. He choked her. Its time to turn the page and move on.

  61. By Derek on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Sign Laron Landry!

  62. By Anthony on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Kalil 1st rnd,
    Free Agency
    WR Jackson or Manningham.
    and CB Brandon Carr or Cortland Finnegan
    2nd Rnd WR
    Trade 2 3rd Picks for Seahawks Brandon Browner 54 TCKL and 6 INT
    4th Rnd DT and………………….

  63. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Yep, 10-6 is my prediction. Maybe 11 wins.

  64. By campfrazier on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Derek no one even knows if Landry can play he refused sugery and he was pretty jacked up from what i have read online

  65. By campfrazier on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Never Count on anyone that chokes a girl to assert his dominance, Cook’s Career is over before it began, too bad. he was lookin like he was going to be a top notch player. OH WELL, NEXT!!!

  66. By Spencer on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    I wouldnt say his career is over. Once he gets out of prison im sure some team will give him a chance. Talented players always get second chances.

  67. By vikingsfan1955 on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    If you think his career is over you don’t know law and with her behind him recanting what she said happening he will at the most get probation for a year or two.

  68. By vikings4life on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    CARL NICKS!

  69. By ryancochran5` on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    I’m not happy with Loadholt’s penalty count in his seasons. We should get a veteran to replace him short term and draft Matt Kalil. Also, we need to surround Ponder with some actual talent at primarily WR. We need a pure wideout.

  70. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    I think this guy knows law……Hennepin Country Attorney Mike Freeman said that if Cook is convicted he likely faces one year in jail.
    From CitiPages………

  71. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Her recanting ultimately has nothing to do with the sentencing if he is found guilty.

  72. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    If he is found guilty of assaulting her, her claim that it didn’t happen is fruitless. The law says that it did happen and sentencing will follow the guidelines set out for such verdicts.

  73. By Spencer on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Nova, what do you think the chances are that hes found innocent.

  74. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Very, very slim, my friend. But O.J. walked, and I still can’t understand that.

  75. By Mike R. on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry, but since I have been fan since I was born in 196? I am tired of excuses. Whatever it takes to get the Vikings back to at least a respectable team. No more hand holding or diaper changing. I want players that are hungry for the Vikings. If they worried about their contract and stubbing their toe….C-Ya…God I miss the “old school” players. Put up or shut up!

  76. By Mike R. on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    I respect Fred McNeil,who has a sort of dementia, from sacrificing his body to block Ray Guy’s punt or throwing his body to make a tackle. And he said if he could do it over,he would do it again!

  77. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Fred McNeil and Matt Blair were tough SOB’s.

  78. By mad1dem on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    1 year for cook cut in half for good time 6 mouths he gets out in sept some time.. If the don’t give him work release which means more money for the state and gov. soo he will play some time this year.. Could be better if the girl keeps liyin for him she now sayin he never grab her neck..

  79. By Mike R. on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Nova

    the funny thing is both were drafted 1 and 2 by Vikings the same year and retired same year…I think best “special teams” team. The NFL even put in a special “Matt Blair” rule when it came to blocking kicks..lol

  80. By mad1dem on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    At least we got cap space for 3 starters ya

  81. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    If that scenario plays out, ( I doubt very much that his time will be cut in half, maybe he’ll just have to serve 9 months), he won’t be playing for the Vikings. Expect him to be cut as soon as the jury foreman says ” Guilty as charged, your Honor”.

  82. By mad1dem on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    its half time for good time and money helps..

  83. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Mike R……Back in those days I never took an opposing team’s punt or field goal for granted.

  84. By Mike R. on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Nova

    lol…I always loved when the other team punted or kicked…it was not an easy simple play

  85. By Spencer on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Imagine if Cook finds his way to the Jets. Revis, Cromartie, and Cook would be the best CB tandem in the NFL.

  86. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Mike R……You could see the fear in the punter, kicker and holder’s faces.

  87. By Mike R. on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Bud Grant would not put up with this sh*t

  88. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    There would be a lot of splinters in a lot of as$es. And no heaters.

  89. By Mike R. on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    2nd round pick injured (things happen) but to come back as a “rookie” and do this?…..he may be great but cut him loose…..tired of excuses

  90. By Mike R. on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Nova

    you are right

  91. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    And those guys played for peanuts.

  92. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    We would be remiss if we didn’t mention Jeff Siemon too.

  93. By mad1dem on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    heres young good coners to think about
    Terrell Thomas
    Brandon carr
    Richard Marshall
    Kelvin Hayden
    Reggie Corner
    Justin Tryon

    all FA that could change the D and not that big of price tags…

  94. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    And Wally Hilgenberg, Roy Winston,……the list goes on and on…….God,I feel old.

  95. By Mike R. on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Nova…lol

    I saw Dolphins perfect season on NFL network. The closest a team came to beating the Fins were the Vikes. (oh and Redskins in Super Bowl). But for those who thought Larry Csonka was tough,pound it out runner…he was. But that year the Vikings lost to the Dolphins at the end. But what got me was Csonka took a pass out of backfield and Roy Winston laid a hit on him that everyone thought he broke in two. He even crawled off the field. God, I feel old tooo lol

  96. By Mike B. on Mar 10, 2012 | Reply

    Looking at what the vikings did today and it makes me think that the Vikings will be very conservative with the FA. They may go after one blue chip guy and then look at potential guys or add in backups. I feel that the Vikings will address the OL and Def backfield in the draft. This leaves WR, third TE, LBs to support Greenway, and Third QB. I think these are the guys that the Vikigns will go after in FA. WR I think they get in the VJack parade, but others the 3rd tier guys looking for youth and potential. I also think they will go with many undrafted rookies. Just my thoughts.

  97. By Mike B. on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    To the dismay of many who like Webb on the field. I think that the Vikings will put Webb in a traditional #2 QB role. He will get a lot less on field time and more work as a QB.

  98. By Mike B. on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    There are two WR that are top notch players and will not require big salaries and have chips on their shoulders. Both will probably not want to play for the Vikings, but would be a cheaper option till we get our #1 guy. Owens and Moss would be the two I am thinking of. They still have speed and skills. I don’t care for Moss do to his off field stuff. But it is something to look at. We need to give Ponder some real tools to work with. Something Explosive to make him a better QB.

  99. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    The Vikings have already publicly stated that they have no interest in re-acquiring Moss. As for Owens, in my opinion, his day has come and gone.

  100. By Gary on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Which 7th rounder of NE do the vikes get? I’ve seen mocks that give the Vikes #206 and mocks that give the Vikes # 221. Which is it?
    1 LOT
    2 WR or CB
    3 CB or WR
    4 S or DT
    4C CB or DT or OL
    4C S or CB or DT or OL
    5 ILB or OLB or S or OL
    6 ILB or OLB or S from Clev
    7 RB
    7 CB or S or WR from NE

    TALLY = 10 Picks Shoot for: Based on who is there and how they’re rated =

    OL = 2 or 1
    WR = 1
    RB = 1
    DT = 1
    ILB = 1
    CB = 2
    FS = 1 or 0
    SS = 1 or 0
    OLB=0 or 1
    TO GET MORE PICKS – Call Philly, they have multiple picks in rounds 2, 4, 6
    By swapping 35 for 45 and #101 or other assorted combos

  101. By Mike B. on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Nova agreed just putting it out there they are inexpensive options.

  102. By Mike B. on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Remi Charlie and Asher must not be costing to much on the cap or they would be up there too.

  103. By Mike B. on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    in the Draft I think the vikings will pick Kalil first after that in no particular order WR, CB, Safety, MLB, DT, OG, TE

  104. By greatirishpotatofamine on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I’d love to see the vikes land Brandon Carr, and also Aaron Ross as he’s very physical and saw him make a lot of plays last season. As for WR, there is no chance Vincent Jackson is going to turn down big money from playoff bound teams to join a team with an unproven quarterback. But Pierre Garcon would be nice

  105. By Mike B. on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @GIPF you bring up a good point about Vincent Jackson wanting to find a contending team. That may indeed play into the Vikings getting some of these 1st Tier players.

  106. By vikingsfan1955 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    whats so hard to understand if she recants and they proceed she doesn’t show theres no case it’s dropped because the complaining witness is a no show. We all know also how it is easy to plea to a lesser charge and get probation so there are many factors to consider before you can say his career is over or he will do time he will at the most plead out and get probation.

  107. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    vikingsfan1955…..it’s too late to cop a.plea now. He should have done that before this all started. If he tries it now, it shows that they ( the defense) are losing the case, and the prosecution would never submit to a lesser charge.

  108. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    God, another Canadian skier dies in a horrific crash.

  109. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    There is also a very good chance that Cook’s lawyers tried to plea to a lesser charge before this all started,and were turned down. Cook is scheduled to take the stand in his own defense this week, and while I’m sure that he isn’t looking forward to it, most people believe that they can sway a jury with their own words. It’s kind of like a poker game, the defense asking to plea down to a lesser charge now is akin to having 5 grand worth of chips while your opponent has 500 grand and saying to him, OK, we’ll just split the pot. Cook is now all in.

  110. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/…/world-cup-skicross-zoricic-crash-120310/ R.I.P.

  111. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Illegal URL?

  112. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.torontosun.com/2012/03/10/canadian-skier-dies-in-swiss-race OK let’s try this one.

  113. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    If you clicked on the first URL and later today 14 red-suited Mounted Police show up at your door on horseback, just tell them its Nova’s fault. I’ll plead insanity.

  114. By #TeamPonder on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Cut Remi Ayodele.

  115. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Why not, he’s not that good, he’s an ex-Saint and he’ll probably be suspended anyway.

  116. By justin on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    To Do List This Offseason
    1. Sign Vincent Jackson
    2. Sign Aaron Ross
    3. Sign Ladarius Webb
    4. Re-Sign Shiancoe, Abdullah, Rosenfels, Erin Henderson (sorry E.J. but we need to get younger) and Onatolu
    5. Draft Matt Kalil with 1st round pick, and Harrison Smith with the 2nd round pick
    6. Officially move Joe Webb to wide receiver with Jackson, and Everson Griffen to OLB so Him, Erin Henderson, and Jasper Brinkley can compete for 2 of the linebacker spots

  117. By Rocksalt on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    What’s next for vikings? I’d say an 8-8 season.

  118. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Yeah Rock, aside from our division the only playoff teams on our schedule are Houston and the 49ers. Anywhere from 7-9 to 9-7.

  119. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Nova…Have to agree on Cook…Believe Cook will receive a little over a year sentence though..More like a 15 month sentence…Cook has that 3rd degree assault charge on the tail end of his rap sheet besides the strangulation charge…They will add a few months because of that…If Cook is model inmate…He will most likely be out in a year…Not sure if Cook understands the term “good behavior” though ??…

  120. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    OTKalil2012…..HAHAHAHAHA !!! Yeah, I don’t think it’s in his vocabulary.

  121. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Rocksalt…Right about what I was thinking for an early predicyion for the Vikings record next season…8-8 sounds pretty close…They have a easy schedule this coming season outside the division…If they have a good draft ???….But 8-8 sounds good for right now…

    Kind of funny…Last season I predicted the Vikings to go 5-11 early last spring…Then really had fellow bloggers fired up when I dropped that perdiction to 4-12 when Frazier brought in McNabb…

  122. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I see that now they’ve pulled the video on that ski accident.

  123. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    And now it’s back. I guess they can’t make up their minds if it’s too graphic.

  124. By Mike B. on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Justin I am not sure they resign anyone from the FA list. Hendersons maybe

  125. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    One of the reasons I really hoping the Vikings take Kalil in the draft…You just don’t get the chance every draft to take the best OT in a draft…Especially an OT the caliber of Kalil…This young man has blown the other OT’s in the draft out of the water…Kalil himself is worth 2 first round draft picks…Just glad the Vikings only need 1 pick to grab the future pro bowler…: )

    Just think if it was the Vikings who had like the 6th round pick…Spielman most likely would have given up this years first rounder and this years second round pick to land Kalil…

  126. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B….I am with you…Erin Henderson can stay if for reasonable price…And think Guion has a little game in him…He still could help along the D-line…Guion has shown some burst from time to time…But not consistent enough yet…Still a young man though for a DT…The rest of the free agents are replaceable for the Vikings…

  127. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    If the RCMP show up at your door, just make sure you don’t give them my real fake name.

  128. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings have a new secondary coach…And the only secondary player I even would like to see back for the Vikings is Sherels…For help in the secondary and special teams…

    Vikings broke the NFL record for quarters in a game without an interception last season !!!…And it was very easy to see why…The Vikings secondary was that bad….Even let Winfield go…Get a bunch of hungry young players out there fighting for jobs looking to make impressions on a new coach…Dropping Winfield adds more cap space also…

    Don’t get me wrong…You duh man ~ Winny !!!…Always have been a favorite of mine…But Vikes are in rebuilding mode…Youth !!

  129. By Carl on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    John Bowman your wrong my friend We need two starting CB via the draft & or draft a starting FS & a NT, 2 WR’S. Now Greatirishpotatofamine we will not be in the Carl Nicks sweep stakes he will ask to much Ben Grubbs will be a little less so he might be a possibility. CB’s Tracy Porter s an option we how ever will not get Brandon Carr he will be to pricey. Aaron Ross would be another nice choice also Richard Marshall is another canidate. I do not have any names for canidates that i can think of for FS but i’m sure some are out there. At NT Paul Saliai we should inquire about him. WR’s Robert Meachum, Piere Garcon, I would not mind Marcus Colston but i think hes out of our price range. but there it is.

  130. By Carl on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Draft we need
    Rd1 Kalil OT USC
    Rd2 Gilmore CB S. Carolina
    Rd3 Allen S S. Carolina
    Rd4 Mcnutt WR Iowa
    Rd4 (comp) Jones WR California
    Rd5 DT dont have a name
    Rds 6′s – 7′s Depth

  131. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Carl….I heard something like Pierre Garcon turned down a 5yr ~ 35 million dollar offer from the Colts…If he is looking for more money that that from a team…Garcon might be out in free agency for awhile…

    V Jackson is too high profile and full of himself…V Jack will be going to a city where the lights are shining bright..And get way over paid doing it…

    M Colston is the guy…If I was Spielman I would have Zygi’s plane warmed up to set up a meeting…Colston is a class act…And would be perfect outside receiver for Ponder…Colston would come here being a primary receiver…The man…Not just one of 10 different little play toys for D Brees…

    Money will talk for Colstons services…And Colston is one of the few free agents worth the cash…

  132. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    How better for the Vikings to STICK IT TO THE SAINTS….Than by signing their best WR to a 5yr contract…: )

  133. By Spencer on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Why didnt Emmanual Arceneaux get playing time last year? Lack of skill??

  134. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    nobody knows spence, just a mystery. The team never replaced Berrian after he was cut and added two PS wr’s later in the season.

  135. By Spencer on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Ok, just wondering. I only mentioned that because I think Aromashadu is terrible. I dont know what potential people see in him. Last year he was below average at best. Atleast Jenkins caught everything thrown his way.

    So I was just confused for why Manny barely stepped on the field last season. I think he has a chance to be the next Victor Cruz.

  136. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer…I really didn’t see or understand Frazier’s game plan at the end of last season…When the season was lost…I saw no real value playing all the veterans on the team trying everything in his power to win games of little importance…I do not think for a minute the Vikings should have just laid down and lost the game to the Redskins…For the reason of having a better draft slot for this springs draft…The players you put out on the field are out there to win ball games…And that should ALWAYS be their mind set on the field….But late in the season…Why didn’t Frazier have all his young players out there…It was more important late last season to evaluate his player potential of his young players…Than just winning a football game that didn’t really matter…The season was lost…The evaluation process is never ending…And extremely important…Game tape of real time situations with young players should have had preference over a win at the end of a completely lost season…imo

  137. By DRS on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_20139192/charity-gambling-tax-relief-under-vikings-stadium-plan?source=rss

    The House minority leader, Democrat Paul Thissen of Minneapolis, said he is not a co-author on the bill though that doesn’t necessarily mean he won’t vote for it.

    Senjem said the bill will go to Local Government and Elections in the Senate. “I’m enthusiastic from a personal point of view because we have a Vikings bill,” he said. “Now we can work it.”

    Senate Minority Leader Tom Bakk, DFL-Cook, said he signed on to the Senate bill as a way to get the process moving in the Legislature, but that doesn’t guarantee his support. “I don’t know if what I signed is something I would vote for, because I haven’t read it,” he said.

    Dayton said he has met with legislative leaders on the stadium issue and plans to meet next week with members of the Minneapolis City Council, where the stadium package faces an uphill battle.

    BILL HIGHLIGHTS

    The plan calls for a 65,000-seat stadium on the site of the Metrodome, the team’s current home.

    Minneapolis, with taxes that otherwise go to its convention center, would chip in $150 million; the Vikings would pay $427 million; and the state would add its $398 million.

    The bill says Minneapolis’ charter requirement that any expenditure over $10 million for a sports facility must go to a public referendum does not apply. The money is “not deemed an expenditure or other use of city resources within the meaning of any law or charter limitation,” according to the bill.

    It also contains language to authorize Minneapolis to spend money to renovate Target Center, a provision seen as critical to getting council members to sign on.

    The bill specifies a fast-track review process for the project in Minneapolis, similar to what was done for Target Field, said Ted Mondale, the governor’s stadium negotiator.

    Other provisions of the bill include:

    – For a tax-deductible donation, members of the public can get a commemorative brick “to be displayed at a prominent location in the new stadium.”

    – State gets team name, logo, colors, memorabilia and other aspects of heritage if Vikings break lease.

    – Stadium lease is at least 30 years with potential for 20 more.

    – Facility is nonsmoking and must be built with U.S.-made steel to greatest extent feasible.

    Doug Belden can be reached at 651-228-5136.

  138. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    OTK was that you or GDP making a case for drafting a S instead of a CB in the second round ?

  139. By DeerTracks on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Cutting Hutch, because he is to old? To save $$$ Cap savings?

    How about cutting A. Petersons $100 Millon in haif to save even more..

    Why Nickel-Dime when some real savings are in view?

    Adrain is good, or was…But NOT that Good!

  140. By DRS on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/blogs/142049913.html

    It’s also worth restating that even if Cook beats both felony charges, he may likely face discipline from the NFL and commissioner Roger Goodell. The league’s personal conduct policy includes the following passage:

    It is not enough simply to avoid being found guilty of a crime. Instead, as an employee of the NFL or a member club, you are held to a higher standard and expected to conduct yourself in a way that is responsible, promotes the values upon which the League is based, and is lawful. Persons who fail to live up to this standard of conduct are guilty of conduct detrimental and subject to discipline, even where the conduct itself does not result in conviction of a crime.

    The personal conduct policy specifically mentions matters of domestic violence and partner abuse as issues that will prompt discipline. The policy also is worded to indicate that a player in a situation like Cook’s may face clinical evaluation as ordered by the NFL with the league also potentially conducting its own investigation on the incident.

    Earlier this week, the judge in Cook’s felony trial said he figured testimony and closing arguments would be wrapped up by early next week with the jury then ready for deliberation.

  141. By Spencer on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I never agreed with the Vikings paying him that much money. It was foolish to give a RB Quarterback money. Hes getting paid 100million, and yet he only won us one game( Cardinals)

  142. By DRS on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/142110153.html

  143. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    sandiamond…Must have been GDP…Secondary is the area of the field I try not to give any opinions on…I would much rather listen to other blogger advice on CB and S positions…

    But do remember at the combine…Commentators mentioning there are a lot of borderline CB’s in this years draft…That with some would make very good safeties…

  144. By Spencer on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Why should Cook face more discipline if hes found innocent? He was suspended for 10 games by us last year

  145. By DRS on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/142110153.html

    Read what’s in the Vikings stadium bill

    Posted by: Eric Roper Updated: March 9, 2012 – 3:35 PM

  146. By Parody on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    So now that we are officially in rebuilding mode, how much time does everyone give to Frazier to start winning and getting us to the playoffs? The beginning of rebuilding mode always presumes that you’re not planning on having a winning record. Many have said that if Leslie doesn’t make this a winning team in his second year, it’s time for him to leave.

    Does everyone still feel that way, or will he get one extra year now that he is making a huge move to make the team younger?

  147. By DRS on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, it will be up to the NFL as to what they are going to do with Cook on that rule, it is there and it is one more thing that cook and the Vikings will have to face after the trail.

  148. By DRS on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_20148125/charley-walters-minnesota-vikings-still-could-trade-away?source=rss

    Charley Walters: Minnesota Vikings still could trade away No. 3 draft pick
    Pioneer Press
    twincities.com
    Posted: 03/11/2012 12:01:00 AM CST
    March 11, 2012 6:11 AM GMT Updated: 03/11/2012 12:11:18 AM CST

    When the St. Louis Rams decided to trade the No. 2 overall pick in April’s NFL draft for a bevy of other picks, it was pretty much thought that the Vikings, with the No. 3 pick, wouldn’t have much leverage left to trade down for more picks.

    But those chances, albeit still slim, may have changed with the Rams’ agreement to exchange the No. 2 pick with Washington for three first-round picks and a second-round pick. The Redskins made the deal so they can choose quarterback Robert Griffin III from Baylor.

    The Rams now have Washington’s No. 6 overall pick. St. Louis would love to have cornerback Morris Claiborne of Louisiana State or wide receiver Justin Blackmon of Oklahoma State.

    It wouldn’t be surprising if the Rams at least try to make a deal with the Vikings for the No. 3 pick. If St. Louis were to offer the No. 6 pick plus one of its second-round picks, Minnesota general manager Rick Spielman, who then would have the No. 6 pick and two second-round picks, certainly would find such an offer enticing.

    There’s also the possibility that still another team would want to trade with the Vikings to move up to take running back Trent Richardson of Alabama.

    The safe pick for the Vikings at No. 3 remains offensive lineman Matt Kalil of Southern California.

  149. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Ap’s contract is not really structured for him to make a 100 million dollars…It more or less is a 4 yr contract with about 32-40 million…That is the real money within the contract…And in the same range most running backs are getting signed for in the last few weeks….

    AP hasn’t had an O-line to run behind lately either….Kalil will change that if picked this spring… A lot !!…AP has been taking his first hits behind the line of scrimmage the last 2 seasons…What you think is going to happen if AP gets some gaping holes to run through like some of the other RB’s in the league ???…I don’t know about you guys ???…But I can’t wait to see that happening !!!…

    Spielman….DRAFT KALIL !!!!

  150. By DRS on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/142206465.html

    Vikings General Manager Rick Spielman will be selective in free agency but definitely will kick the tires on some of the younger models. Recently given final say on all personnel matters, he’s made it clear he prefers using draft picks to fuel a youth movement in the wake of last year’s 3-13 season. Rebuilding that sort of foundation typically doesn’t mesh with the quick-fix nature of free agency, but that doesn’t mean Spielman won’t be looking for younger players at positions of need, particularly cornerback, receiver and — given Saturday’s transactions — guard.

    “You’re hoping that you’re always drafting and keeping the guys you draft as you bring them up through your system,” Spielman said. “If you’re able to keep those guys, I think that’s the best way to do it.

    “But if there is a free agent out there that you think is unique, or a trade like when we traded for Jared Allen, if something pops up like that, then you try to go ahead and do that if you can.”

    By last Monday, a record 21 teams had used their franchise tags to significantly reduce the strength of what might have been the best free-agency class ever. But two days later, the Indianapolis Colts released four-time NFL MVP Peyton Manning into the free-agency pool. Because he was released, Manning was immediately available as the most high-profile free agent since Reggie White kicked off the current era of free agency in 1993.

    Among those about to join Manning in signing a megadeal somewhere are Houston Texans defensive end/outside linebacker Mario Williams, an elite 27-year-old pass rusher who has missed 14 games because of injuries the past two seasons; New Orleans Saints left guard Carl Nicks, a 26-year-old multiple All-Pro destined to become the highest-paid guard in the league; San Diego Chargers receiver Vincent Jackson, a 6-5, 230-pound No. 1 receiver with a 17.5-yard career average per catch; and Packers quarterback Matt Flynn, whose two NFL starts include franchise single-game passing records for touchdowns (six) and yards (480) in a season-ending victory over the Lions.

    Also available are receiver and Super Bowl hero Mario Manningham of the Giants, Colts receivers Pierre Garcon and Reggie Wayne, Saints receiver Marques Colston, Titans cornerback Cortland Finnegan and Chiefs cornerback Brandon Carr, a 25-year-old who had four interceptions in 2011

  151. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    thanks OTK. The more I ponder the idea of a safety instead of a cornerback it could make for a very smart move pending any backfield movements next week. That person being Mark Barron but i’ll wait to pump his stock later!!

  152. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, you are not found innocent. You are found “not guilty ” of the charges filed against you. There is a big difference. If Cook is found “not guilty”, that doesn’t necessarily mean he still didn’t break the league’s code of conduct policy, although I would assume that the NFLPA would jump in to assist him.

  153. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    If Spielman makes a trade for Desean Jackson…His GM role for the Vikings will last only one season…DeSean Jackson is poison for any team…No matter how low a draft pick a team pays for him…

  154. By DRS on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Why not move Webb to WR and sign Packers quarterback Matt Flynn
    as our #2 QB? Is Webb not a better WR? I know the Vikings will never
    do that, just a thought.

  155. By DRS on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Well have a great day, GO VIKINGS.

  156. By KoN on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    We don’t have the kind of money to outbid othr teams for Flynn and address all of our other needs. With so many QB starved teams, Flynn is going to go for a lot more than he is worth.

  157. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    actually drs it may work in our favor at least with him not being there. Aaron goes down with a injury slump a few games and the Packers are in trouble

  158. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Even if Cook is found “not guilty” in court…Doesn’t mean Cook is a “shoe in” by any means of keeping his job with the Vikings…Cook is trouble…From getting into fights with girlfriends just before big games with division rivals…To waving guns in front of neighbors faces…

    The Vikings are lagally bound to keep him on their roster right now…How can they release him???…It would make Cook look guilty in the public eye…Then if that happened…Cook could sue the Vikings…Whether he is found guilty in the coming days or not…If Cook is found guilty…The Vikings will be awarded a compensatory pick for him in this springs draft…Just releasing him last fall…That would not fall into play for them either…

    I doubt Cook will ever see another game playing for the Vikings…I see the Vikings either getting a draft choice if Cook is found guilty…Or the Vikings trading the trouble player if possible if found “not guilty”…If no trades availible after being found “not guilty”….The Vikings might just drop him at that point…But at least at that point Cook can’t file a law suit against the Vikings then…

  159. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Standard of Conduct:
    While criminal activity is clearly outside the scope of permissible conduct, and persons who engage in criminal activity will be subject to discipline, the standard of conduct for persons employed in the NFL is considerably higher. It is not enough simply to avoid being found guilty of a crime. Instead, as an employee of the NFL or a member club, you are held to a higher standard and expected to conduct yourself in a way that is responsible, promotes the values upon which the League is based, and is lawful. Persons who fail to live up to this standard of conduct are guilty of conduct detrimental and subject to discipline, even where the conduct itself does not result in conviction of a crime. Discipline may be imposed in any of the following cir(umstances:

    Criminal offenses including, but not limited to, those involving: the use or threat of violence; domestic violence and other forms of partner abuse; theft and other property crimes; sex offenses; obstruction or resisting arrest; disorderly conduct; fraud; racketeering; and money laundering;
    Criminal offenses relating to steroids and prohibited substances, or substances of abuse;
    Violent or threatening behavior among employees, whether in or outside the workplace;
    Possession of a gun or other weapon in any workplace setting, including but not limited to stadiums, team facilities, training camp, locker rooms, team planes, buses, parking lots, etc., or unlawful possession of a weapon outside of the workplace;
    Conduct that imposes inherent danger to the safety and well being of another person; and
    Conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL, NFL clubs, or NFL players.

    Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10111/1052222-66.stm#ixzz1opFrEJRa

  160. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Cook is completely scr3wed.

  161. By snafu on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    WEBB SHOULD STILL GET A SHOT AT QB. HE HASN’T BEEN PROVEN UNWORTHY THERE YET.

  162. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    One other point about Cook…Frazier told Cook to stay out of trouble after the gun incident down in Miami…Did Cook even come close to listening too Frazier’s advice ???…When Frazier was about to play one of his biggest games of the year against their division rival Packers…

  163. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    In the NFC North, the Chicago Bears lead the way with about $27 million. The Vikings are about $24 million under the cap after clearing close to $14 million with Saturday’s release of veterans Steve Hutchinson, Anthony Herrera and Cedric Griffin. The Packers have about $10 million to spend, while the Detroit Lions have about $2 million or less.

    Vikings General Manager Rick Spielman will be selective in free agency but definitely will kick the tires on some of the younger models. Recently given final say on all personnel matters, he’s made it clear he prefers using draft picks to fuel a youth movement in the wake of last year’s 3-13 season. Rebuilding that sort of foundation typically doesn’t mesh with the quick-fix nature of free agency, but that doesn’t mean Spielman won’t be looking for younger players at positions of need, particularly cornerback, receiver and — given Saturday’s transactions — guard.

    Ouch! If the Bears get V-Jax and Micheal Floyd(#19) that would be another blow to our secondary

  164. By snafu on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I THINK YOUR RIGHT. THEY SHOULD USE THE DRAFT THIS YEAR AN FILL IN THE HOLES NEXT YEAR WITH FA’S.TO MANY HOLE TO FILL THIS YEAR .

  165. By tdurfeightyeight on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Give the stadium bit a rest…we should take blackmon,to trade later with the rams…browns or bucs will not take a left tackle…the Vikes could end up with Kalil and more draft picks

  166. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I love it…The NFC north division…Is truly coming back as the “black and blue” division they have been known for in the past…For the Vikings to be the best…You have to beat the best…Pure case of “the nail meeting the hammer”…Play the Packer this week ..”wham” take this…Play the Bears next..”Bam” take that…And lets not even start talking about those up and coming Lions !!…

    Lions,Packers,and Bears…Oh My !!!…

    wouldn’t have it any other way…GO VIKES !!!

  167. By snafu on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    THIS COULD BE THE POWER DIVISION IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS

  168. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    So Spencer, even though you have repeatedly stated that you don’t care what players do off-the-field, I think that now you realize that the N.F.L. certainly does.

  169. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Lions only have 2 million and they have 2 starters who are free agents

    CB Eric Wright … 26 years old … 16 PDef … 4 INTs

    MLB Stephen Tulloch … 27 years old … 111 tackles … 3 sacks … 5 Pdef … 2 INT

    Either one would make a great FA signing for the Vikings …. always fun to take a division rivals starters

  170. By tdurfeightyeight on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    like ray lewis? dude associates with known murders

  171. By Spencer on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Why are we celebrating about being in the best divison when we are the worst team?

    We have to go up against Stafford, Cutler, and Rodgers twice. Id rather be in the NFC West.

  172. By tdurfeightyeight on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    sorry murderers…or people who like to stab other people

  173. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Thoughts …

    Do NOT sign Erin Henderson yet …

    Make a serious attempt to sign WR Vincent Jackson

    If VJax fails …. Make a serious attempt at MLB Stephen Tulloch or MLB Curtis Lofton ….

    If Jackson / Tulloch / Lofton Fail … Resign OLB Erin Henderson

    Then look at 2nd tier DBs …. CB Eric Wright and DB Richard Marshall

    Then if all we got so far was Henderson and one of those DBs … go after WR Pierre Garcon or TE Visanthe Shiancoe or a similar vet TE with some better run blocking skills

  174. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer…Its not always the winning for fans…Its how you play the games…If you play or do anything in this world with all your heart and spirit…A fan can be proud of the effort…Even if they lose the game…

    Do you have any idea how many Packer fans I am know personally that hate when those referee’s taint their Packer victories…With the Packers winning with refs bad calls going the Packers way…NFL fans KNOW the rules…Just winning isn’t the deal…A win means little to a “true” football fan if it isn’t earned fairly…

    Are the Saints fans ever going to really look at that super bowl trophy with the same shining glory it once had after the “Bountygate scandal”…Some won’t care…To some it will mean a great deal…

  175. By tdurfeightyeight on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    erin and husain will resign for les money, shiancoe and e.j. will be let go…p.o.s. remi ayodele counts as 3.5 million,so we can expect him to be cut as well…which will leave the Vikes 26.5 million under the cap…plenty to play with in the FA market.

  176. By Spencer on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn, what do you think we should do with Everson Griffin?

  177. By KingVike on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I have no faith in this group running the Vikes,I can’t even remember the last time they made a good decision. I think Hutch would have been good to at least transition this pitiful line twords respectability. Many more losses in the next couple years to come. Moving Johnson to his spot?? OMG

  178. By tdurfeightyeight on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I love Finnegan’s tenacity…IDC what it costs,the Vikes sorely lack that type of play in the secondary.Grubbs would play for us at he right price…Pierre Garcon a Viking? we will soon see.

  179. By Allen on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Hi Mike,
    I think the Vikings should draft Kalil with the first pick and if one of the top 5 recievers on Mayocks list is still available at 35 maybe pick one of these guys if not how about one of the interior linemen especially one who can play multiple positions and try to build a young O-line to protect Ponder for years to come. As for free agency maybe try to get Marquis Colston or a big body like Plaxico Burress or possibly the kid from Dallas Laurent Robison who shined last year and could be gotten fairly cheap. Then try for a corner like Finnegan or Carr from KC or maybe even William Gay from the Steelers. I know the Vikings can’t fix everything at once but with a few choice moves we could become better than 3-13 at least. Thanks for the time, Love the column, keep up the excellent work.
    ALLEN,
    Roanoke Va.

  180. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Just very happy to say I have COMPLETE respect for every team the Vikings play against in the NFC north division…Do I want to win every game we play against them…You bet…Do I want to cheat or use thugs to win those games ??…No..

    This is supposed to be a game of integrity…Knights in shining armour are supposed to be the role models winning these shiny big trophies at the end of each season…Not the cheaters and thugs that should be in jail…These players are supposed to be role models for our kids…

    At least that is the image R Goodell would like to see it be…Or at least closer that kind of image..: )

  181. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Do you think the Vikings will go after a free agent LB ???…When the draft looks full of solid LB prospects ???

  182. By Spencer on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I guess im part of the few that wouldnt care as long as we won, OT. And ive said this once, and i’ll say it again. They are football players first, role models second.

  183. By Spencer on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    You guys can take Tebow. But I would take Vick and Big Ben in a heartbeat.

  184. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Everson Griffen ? I think if he cant beat out Brian Robison …. then he is what he is. Which appears to be a good back up. The guy has speed but there is a reason he has been a DE his whole life. Its Because he must be missing flexibility to quick cut and turn when covering TEs RBs or WRs ….

    If Everson Griffen was a starter he’d be starting.

    Now he is young so he could become a starter but as of right now today in the real world he is a back up.

    Cant believe I wasted so much thought on Everson Griffen :(

  185. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Good enough Spencer…Your not the only one…Perspective is in the eye of the beholder…And is ever changing….But all I know is “When” and not if ….the Vikings win a Super Bowl…I want to brag to the world and then some…We did it fair and square…nuff said !!….hahahaha

  186. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    GDP … I would LOVE to land Mario Williams. Jared Allen – Kevin Williams – Mario Williams

    We’d have a new Williams Wall :)

  187. By Spencer on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Wasted so much thought? Shawn, E.Griffin is not a scrub. He has potential to be a great impact player. Unlike Robison, who dissapears for weeks on end.

  188. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn…Wow…I like Everson Griffen a lot….He has a lot of growing to do into the DE position and plenty to learn yet….But I think he has plenty of raw talent to work with…

  189. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, do you not understand that what you want in a football player doesn’t matter ? If your roster is full of thugs and low-lifes, they won’t be on the field. How can you win if your players don’t adhere to the NFL code of conduct?

  190. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    right well I have seen hundreds and hundreds of guys with “potential” come into the NFL …. “potential” is a fantasy … I like reality …. and the reality is Everson Griffen cant beat out Brian Robison …. which means in REALITY Robison is better than Griffen

  191. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Nova, Spencers character argument is ridiculous. For several reasons the most ridiculous of which is the example he uses … Chris Cook ( who has done nothing )

    Jerry Rice … best WR ever … and he was not a thug

    Walter Payton … one of the best RBs ever … not a thug

    Chris Doleman … one of the best DEs ever … not a thug

  192. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    And the only QB you keep referring to is Tebow. What about Brees, Manning, Rodgers, Rivers etc. The seem to keep out of trouble, but all we hear from you is Tebow vs Vick or Roethlisberger.

  193. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    In philosophy, reality is the state of things as they actually exist, rather than as they may appear or might be imagined.[1] In a wider definition, reality includes everything that is and has been, whether or not it is observable or comprehensible. A still more broad definition includes everything that has existed, exists, or will exist.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality

  194. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn….Everson Griffen is J Allens primary back up right now I believe…I think Frazier says he wants him to stay in that position for right now…

    I thought Robison played better than Ray Edwards while Robison was maturing…But Robison waited his turn also until Edwards left…Robison only had spot duty also his first few seasons..He turned out okay…The Vikings are strong on the D-line…That is why they are some of the few players on the team that are being groomed properly for those positions…Its not lack of talent…

  195. By Spencer on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I use Tebow because you guys make it seem as though ones character, is more important than ones talent.

  196. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    OTK … I never said I dont like Griffen. In REALITY what I said was

    “Now he is young so he could become a starter but as of right now today in the real world he is a back up.”

  197. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Don’t the QBs I just mentioned have both talent and character? You are embarrassing yourself, Spencer.

  198. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    And if Griffen was really good then we need to trade him since we have Jared Allen.

    Its like what Andy Reid does with his back up QBs … he keeps the best one and trades the rest for second round picks. I think he even got a first for Kolb ?

  199. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Remember the Vikings have high hopes for DT/DE C h r i s t i a n Ballard and were loving what they were seeing from D’Aundre Reed before he was hurt…2 more players that have plenty of upside…But need maturing yet…

  200. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I am not completely sure if Spielman isn’t high enough on his young DE’s that maybe trading J Allen hasn’t crossed his mind…I’m not saying he might not have let the thought go as soon as he came up with the idea…But the Vikings do have a lot of young talent at the DE position…And an aging veteran DE in Allen worth his weight in gold in draft picks…From a league leading 20+ sacks this last season…

    Allen has a lot of years left in him..I do not see a trade happening…Just saying the idea must have gone through Spielmans head more than once…

  201. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn…There is a perfect example of what I was talking about with why Frazier should have played his young players and rookies late in the season last year…To trade players…They need to prove their worth…Reid got all those picks from playing second team guys…In games that didn’t matter…QB Flyn plays one game for the Packers late last year…The guy is going to make a fortune off one big game !!!…That is crazy..But how the NFL works…What if Griffen had played that game against the Redskins…And piled up 3 sacks in that game ???…That player immediately has potential trade value…And high potential trade value at that…One game wonder..Pays off big for the Vikings…Talent for trades has to be proven….Allen is a proven talent…And has great value…Who has seen anything on Griffen…Who is this guy ???…See what I mean…Why not…That’s the guy who man handled the Redskins late last season…And dropped the QB 3 times in sacks..

  202. By CA Norseman on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Brand new awasome defenders are what made this franchise great. Go for Poe. I saw our Offense generate leads that evaporated last year. We really missed Pat Williams. Poe, Poe, poe!!! Please keep Shiankoe!!! There is a large class coming in, so we can shore up with other good players, plus FA to give Ponder a little more time. Nobody here wants Moss, right Shawn?

  203. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Is Spielman dumb enough to hire Peyton Manning, and go (mostly) with the offensive linemen who show up?

    Is Mike Wobschall dumb enough to think that JOE WEBB is done as quarterback of the MN Vikings?

    Get it together DUDES we need defensive backs and offensive linemen. Use the money for that.

  204. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Our Defensive Line is average.
    Our Linebackers are average.
    Our Quarterbacks are average.
    Our Special Teams are average.
    Our RBs might be average.
    Our TEs are average.
    Our WRs are average.

    The goal now is to get average DBs and OLs so that we have a shot at 8-8.

    Then fix the remaining areas in the years that follow!!!

  205. By NovaScotiaVike on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    But our fans are THE BEST !!!!

  206. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Spielman should be spending 90% of his time observing Tackles, Guards, and Centers.

    We keep reading about how he is going here, or there, to see an RB, or a WR. Rick, you are wasting your time!

  207. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Nova,

    I have been reading your posts. You are correct about having thugs on the roster that never even get to play. There are many good players still on the Vikings.

    Getting rid of nearly ALL the current Vikings is silly (As one blogger suggested), we need to keep some until we can find better players to replace them.

  208. By Viking-ology on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    OTKalil2012-Good point’s. Fraiser should have let more backups play later in the season. I hope he learned well from kis mistakes, including in-game coaching miscues. As far as Jared Allen is concerned, I’m sure he is not going anywhere for a long time, they brought in a D coordinator to compliment his style.

  209. By Viking-ology on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    (Frazier)

  210. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @OT Kalil,

    I would definitely keep DE Griffen as you suggest.
    Our defensive line is average. Trading away a good young
    player seems silly.

  211. By Viking-ology on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    This season seems to be setting up well for the Vike’s>>>

  212. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Joe Webb is a quarterback (I might type this ten times today.)

  213. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    We hope to hear something soon. Erin truly appreciates the support!

    Thank you fans!

    (response back from update questions sent to his assistant)

  214. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Kalil you must remember just how difficult it was to get one win during a long stretch last season. Huge factor in not playing the rookies but something the coaches might regret come this season

  215. By William Faulkner on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings will be the number two seed this year.

  216. By Northern Norseman on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I say really put the focus on offense and more specifically Ponder.

    - Draft Matt Kalil with the 3rd overall

    - Be aggressive for either OG Carl Hicks or OG Ben Grubbs

    - This way we can move C. Johnson to RG and suddenly we have an amazing offensive line.

    - Since Vincent Jackson and Colston are probably out of financial reach at WR…. go after Robert Meachem or Pierre Garcon that have lots of upside and won’t break the bank on you.

    - Defense can be concentrated with cheap under the radar free agents and also in the draft.

    - The Vikings simply will not fill all the needs in one offseason…. it will not happen so focus on developing Ponder as best as possible and then focus more on defense in the coming years.

  217. By Northern Norseman on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I know this is a far cry from happening but just imagine if the Vikings put all the chips in for Mario Williams!….

    Sign back Erin Henderson and be super aggressive towards Mario Williams.

    It would be the scariest d-line in the NFL and would easily win games and also would make average DBs look better than they are since QBs will be rushed to throw.

    Id still prefer my previous idea but just the thought of Mario Williams in purple would be absolutely epic!

  218. By Rocksalt on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    DRS-
    Clearly the Repubs. have put the brakes on this…..

    MPLS STAR TRIBUNE

    The funding package for a new Minnesota Vikings stadium had a shaky unveiling Friday when Gov. Mark Dayton issued new estimates for charitable gambling money for the project, and was immediately challenged by the industry’s main lobbying group.

    The controversy quickly overshadowed a day in which Dayton personally stumped for the stadium’s public subsidy package, meeting with key Capitol leaders in their offices and conducting a series of radio interviews. His push came as the stadium bill, after months of closed-door meetings, was released just before hearings on the $975 million project are set to begin next week.

    Standing with State Revenue Commissioner Myron Frans, Dayton said that allowing electronic bingo and pulltabs in the state’s bars and restaurants would produce $62.5 million annually to finance the state’s total $398 million stadium contribution.

    That figure is $10 million a year less than a previous calculation. It was revised to satisfy charitable gambling officials who want tax relief for their industry as part of any Vikings stadium deal. “We feel confident that this is a revenue stream that we can rely on” for the stadium, Frans said.

    But the revision quickly came under fire.

    A spokesman for Allied Charities of Minnesota said after the governor’s news conference that leaders of the charitable gambling industry did not know about the briefing and said there was no agreement with the Dayton administration on whether the revenue estimates were accurate or how the new revenues should be divided.

    “We have no deal,” said Ray Bohn, a spokesman. “We’re pretty offended.”

    Bohn said Dayton administration officials had begun meeting with charitable gaming officials just three days before, and that discussions had been expected to spill into the weekend. “It’s very weird,” Bohn said. “I’ve never been treated like this before.”

    The briefing — which was tacked onto a news conference on education grants — and the new revisions showed that even as the stadium bill was being introduced, concern over the reliability of electronic pulltab projections is but one more worry in a project plagued by complicated politics and financing.

    In a rare move for a governor, Dayton went to the offices of GOP House and Senate leaders to make his case. He talked to House Speaker Kurt Zellers, R-Maple Grove, for 35 minutes in Zellers’ closed-door office. But Zellers was still tepid when asked whether he supported — or would help politically push — for a Vikings stadium and, if anything, seemed to distance himself further from it later in the day.

    “I personally don’t believe in funding for the Vikings stadium,” Zellers said. “I didn’t vote for the [public subsidies for a Minnesota Twins ballpark]. Doesn’t mean it won’t get a fair trial, a fair hearing.”

    Asked whether he was an advocate for the Vikings stadium, Zellers replied with one word: “No.”

    The DFL governor was asked later whether the controversial stadium project could pass the House without Zellers’ help. “I think a stadium bill is going to pass the House with 68 votes. I didn’t ask the speaker what his vote would be,” Dayton said. “There have to be enough advocates for this project in the House and the Senate and the Minneapolis City Council.

    “That’s the real challenge,” Dayton acknowledged.

    The stadium would be built on the Metrodome site in downtown Minneapolis. The Vikings would contribute $427 million toward construction costs, while the state’s share would be $398 million. Minneapolis is to give $150 million upfront and share other continuing costs with the team.

    What’s the pulltab backup?

    Frans said he was confident about this latest pulltab revenue estimate, but conceded that if electronic bingo and pulltabs failed to generate enough money, the state would have to look at a backup plan more directly supported by state money. “That’s something we’ll have to look at,” said Frans.

    State officials said that while $38 million to $40 million a year would be needed for debt service on stadium borrowing, bond houses might require twice as much because gambling is seen as an unstable funding source.

    But any move to use direct state money carries a new set of political worries — many Republican legislators who hold the majority in the House and Senate already have said they would reject any such move.

    “If the electronic pulltabs just [don't] work why, then, no one can probably vote for it,” said Senate Majority Leader David Senjem after his Friday meeting with Dayton. “We have to be assured there’s a financing mechanism that works,” the Rochester Republican said.

    On whether the Vikings stadium legislation would pass the Legislature this spring, Senjem said: “We’ll do the best we can. If it’s not good enough, why, we’ll have to, I suppose, set it aside and [do it] at a different time.”

    Staff writer Jim Ragsdale contributed to this report. Mike Kaszuba •

  219. By William Faulkner on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Rocksalt, thank you for that article. It is Senjam acting fiscally responsible, wanting to assure the plan is actually implementable.

  220. By 61Vikings on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Average doesn’t cut it in the NFL!!!
    Love the idea of trading our pick to the Rams, so they get there guy in Blackmon, the Browns and Bucs would not take Kalil and we would end up with one of there 2nd round picks and still get Kalil!! Only worry there would be, is if someone would trade up with the Browns or the Bucs to try an get Kalil!! Better do your homework Rick Spielman!!!

  221. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Joe Webb is potentially a better quarterback than anyone else in the NFL.

  222. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Northern Norseman,

    I can appreciate most of what you have said about the offensive line. However, regarding the moving of Charlie Johnson to Guard does not compute.

    If Johnson stinks as a Tackle, he will stink as a guard. Blocking is blocking!!!

  223. By Northern Norseman on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @ Fredrick Jones

    I really don’t understand where you are getting the whole “Spielman should be observing these positions but instead he is spending all his time observing these positions”….. talk.

    If you honestly believe that a GM on any team is leaving any stone unturned on any prospect than you sir are an idiot. Not to mention if he just spent 90% on Tackles, Guards, and Centers (only 3 positions)………. then spent only 10% of his time on the rest of the entire team……… would be the dumbest thing a GM could ever do and would need to be fired immediately. So for that again you sir are an idiot.

    Also his focus may not be exactly evened out amongst every position because based on track records of every scout each will have positions that they are better scouting for. So every scout looks at nearly everyone but will tend to focus a tad more on positions of their strength. Then just because you read here, or there, and here, everywhere there there about Spielman checking out certain prospects…… you have no idea what his 24/7 schedule is like and what he has done in terms of scouting through this whole process. So for acting like you are is ‘time manager’ that keeps his black schedule book by your side…… you sir are an idiot.

    I have agreed to various comments you have said here but no matter who it is when something that dumb is said without really thinking deserves to be called an idiot. So again sir you are an idiot. Lucky you are not tarred and feathered for such a dumb comment.

  224. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @61Vikings,

    When I said average, I meant average FOR the NFL!!!

    When a team goes 3-13, you can turn things around to 13-3. However, in doing that you might be risking the future. And there is always a chance that getting all those free agents will not work.

    Heck, last year it didn’t work in Philadelphia.

  225. By Northern Norseman on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Fredrick Jones

    Although C. Johnson may be not be a good guard I think he will be better than he was at tackle or at least better than Herrera.

    If not….

    Vikings will just have to explore with Fusco, Love, Berger, or free agent/ draft selection.

    BTW I really like Fuscos upside so hopefully he pans out.

  226. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Northern Norseman,

    We need a more balanced approach here on Vikings.com blog.

    About 90% of the bloggers focus on RBs, QBs, WRs, and other “skill” positions.

    Rick “Hollywood” Spielman HAS HAD the same approach in his 6 or 7 years as the lead guy in personnel. He must be pressured to WATCH the key need positions for the Vikings.

    We need Offensive Linemen, and Defensive Backs. Those are the “Skill” positions we need for the Vikings.

  227. By Spencer on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    It didnt work in Philly because Vick had an off year due to his primary receiver taking plays off. On top of that the Eagles D-coordinator, Juan Castillo, was terrible. He had arguably the best man coverage CB, Nmadi, practically playing safety.

  228. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Joe Webb JUST MIGHT become the best QB in NFL history.
    Give him a chance!!!

  229. By William Faulkner on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Hey Freddie Jones!

  230. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Northern Norseman,

    I am aware that many bloggers on Vikings.com are close personal friends with Rick Spielman.

    This year will be his last if he does not clear up the defensive back/offensive line problems.

    Say goodbye to Ricky!!

  231. By Spencer on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Youre joking right, Fred?

  232. By 61Vikings on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Northern Norseman
    You want it all don’t ya bro!! Your like a kid in the candy shop!! If I read your blogs right , you want Nicks or Grubbs, Mario Williams, Robert Meachum or Pierre Garcon and draft Kalil #1 overall?? While your at it let’s get Brandon Carr!! Love it, but we just don’t have that much money!!!

  233. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @William Faulkner,

    Are you using an alias?

    Do you think the Vikings will sign Peyton Manning?

  234. By Northern Norseman on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @ Frederick Jones

    I agree with you absolutely on that offensive and defensive backs are amongst the biggest needs for the vikings.

    I do understand what your saying about Rick Spielmans approach but he hasn’t had full authority over draft selection as you may think he’s had although his influence and word was at or close to the top. The one thing that Spielman does is he will hit very well with 2 maybe 3 (if lucky) prospects but the rest of the draft will go down the drain. He needs to prove that he can nail the 4-7 rounds of the draft more consistently.

  235. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @61Vikings,

    I like Northern Norseman’s approach.

    There is an old coaching saying, “I ask for a lot, I don’t get it, but I get something.”

    This is often an effective approach. You may be right about us not getting all of those great players. But it surely won’t hurt to try!!!

  236. By William Faulkner on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    You know, the other day I read Manning wanted to stay in the AFC so I thought it’s a closed question. But then I read where he went to Arizona for a visit with the Cardinals. I think Elway is courting Manning in a serious way– and that Manning may end up there– although he may not want to play in the thin air.
    I would not put it past the Wilfs to bring in Manning though– I say there is a chance. Fred– how is the running?

  237. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Northern Norseman,

    I wish you agreed with me that the defensive backs/offensive line ARE THEEE BIGGEST needs of the Minnesota Vikings.

  238. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Aaah WF must be the old T

  239. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Hutchinson was still the best OL on the Vikings. The move makes sense, but now it’s even more crucial to get MORE THAN ONE above average NFL Offensive LIneman.

  240. By Viking-ology on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Freddie-I agree we need to concentrate on skill positions. Paul Allen said the same thing. We can try to get great on one side of the ball while trying ti be good (to start) on the other. You can’t spresd yourself too thin and have nothing to show for it.

    As far as Webb is concerned, (best ever) I think that is a stretch to say the least. He is a project QB, and I think he will waste on the sidelines if they don’t give him more opportunities to get on the field.

  241. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    By the way, Joe Webb is a Quarterback!!!

    (In my opinion? Who else is writing on this post? Why say it is in my opinion?)

  242. By William Faulkner on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I am going outside to enjoy the evening– summer is here early.

  243. By 61Vikings on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @ Fred Jones
    We have more needs than just DB’s and OL!! If the Vikes draft Kalil with the first pick, you really only need one more guard in the draft, because they will move C.Johnson to guard!! Now I’m not saying don’t draft anymore OL in the draft, because we will still need depth at that position!!
    If you look at Spielman’s drafts, he drafts playmakers with his first picks, so it wouldn’t surprise me if the Vikes took Blackmon or Floyd with our first pick!!!

  244. By Northern Norseman on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @61Vikings

    Well your certainly right about not having the money…….we do in a way (23 million cap space) but nothing close to many teams like the Buccaneers (60+ million cap space).

    My bad if I didn’t state more clearly but in no way do I think the Vikings could get Nicks, Grubbs, Mario Williams, Robert Meachem, and Pierre Garcon. (Which I don’t think you thought that either)

    I just don’t see the vikings going for the top tier prospects.

    - If they go for Williams….. that is it! They will only have enough for average to below average players to fill the rest of the roster and signing draftees

    -Similar with OG Carl Nicks….. will not be as big of a hit as Mario Williams but big enough that it will prevent the team to make big runs at other big prospects.

    -Thats is why in the end players like OG Ben Grubbs won’t hurt the bank as much possibly allowing the Vikings to get a second tier WR (Garcon, Meachem) versus a top tier WR that would be out of our budget (V. Jackson).

    I just strongly think that the Vikings should not get too fancy with the draft (which is what a part of me is a little worried that Spielman will try to do) but just stay put and take OT Matt Kalil. Go hard after a Ben Grubbs and then have just enough to maybe make a run a caliber player like Robert Mechem or Pierre Garcon….. players that are pretty decent and will not have such a rabid bidding war for.

  245. By Viking-ology on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Webb should be a 3rd string QB. This will allow him to be in mulitiple offensive scenario’s- Blazer (needs to be refined) Kickoff returner (think about the damage he can do) WR (he has speed and good hands) or he can be used in the backfield.

    Why would you limit him to #2 QB-he will rarely get to play. Use his talents to score some points. Scoring points will immediately put any team in contention to win some games.

  246. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Viking-ology,

    Yes, the Vikings need to concentrate on “skill” position players, as
    in Tackle, Guard, Center, Cornerback, and Safety.

    Joe Webb COULD be the best Quarterback of all time!!!
    But you are right, if he doesn’t get the opportunity, it will not happen.

    Remember Archie Manning? Chances are if his sons were not so prolific, you wouldn’t have heard of him. He was actually a great QB who never got a chance to show it. Joe Webb/Archie Manning? I hope it goes better for Joe Webb!!!

  247. By Spencer on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Lol.

  248. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Northern Norseman,

    Yes! Perhaps we could pick up one name player. The rest of our needs would have to be DISCOVERED or LOW COST!!!

  249. By Northern Norseman on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @ Frederick Jones

    In my opinion….. biggest needs are:

    10. Quarterback
    9. Full back
    8. Special Team (K,P)
    7. Running Back
    6. Tight End
    5. Defensive Line
    4. Linebacker
    (WR and LB are very close but ill give the slight edge to the WR position)
    3. Wide Receiver
    2. Defensive Backs
    1. Offensive Line

    So in the end I would definitely agree that THEEE biggest needs for the Vikings would have to be offensive line followed by the defensive back positions.

  250. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @ Viking-ology , Paul Allen and Fred Jones are very far apart with thoughts / needs for the upcoming draft

    PA mock draft:
    1 kalil (goes along with the crowd)
    2 WR
    3 WR
    4 RB
    5 TE
    6 WR

  251. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Viking-ology,

    Joe Webb a #3 QB? Blazer package? Kickoff Returns?

    That is why I am writing JOE WEBB IS A QUARTERBACK!!!

    In the NFL you never know when your stars are going to go down. We need to have one ready at the most important position~~~Quarterback.

  252. By DeerTracks on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Fred, I am with you on Joe Webb! I went back and watched all the Viking games, I had taped with Webb playing…He is a much better QB then Ponder…and has proven it everytime he had to pull Ponders chestnuts out of the fire,,

    Like you and I have stated numerous times…Webb is a QB!! not a clipboard holder!!

  253. By Spencer on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Classy.

  254. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Sandiamond,

    I have never disliked Paul Allen.

    But don’t most of us think we could do his job?

    Same with Dan Barrerio (Bizzario) of the fan. I would need time to adjust, but I know I can do better than that guy!!

  255. By Viking-ology on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    sandiamond-yes, but skill positions are the basis of that. I think we should concentrate on setting up Ponder for success-everything else will follow, that is my opinion.

  256. By 61Vikings on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Fred Jones
    Mark my words, Joe Webb will be the Vikings QB by the end of next year!! I don’t think Ponder will hold up for the whole year and I think he will throw to many interceptions!! I hope I’m wrong about Ponder, but I don’t see him as a starter in the NFL. He’s a back-up in my opinion!! Joe Webb is a really talented guy, who when given the chance last year played very well and I like what I saw out of that kid!! He will get his chance!!!!

  257. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @DeerTracks,

    There are a few of us Joe Webb fans.

    In the NFL you need at least 2 above average quarterbacks. Webb-Ponder could be a dangerous combination for the Vikings.

    Their only problem right now is the supporting cast.

  258. By Northern Norseman on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Spencer

    HAHA YES!!

    Thanks for sharing that! The best part is that is what Viking fans say.

    Oh man I got to spread this masterpiece around.

    Haha dang that made my day.

  259. By Northern Norseman on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Spencer

    Hahaha man that next one is great also! To be serious tho Eagle fans are ruthless. Been to multiple games against the Eagles and they are quite the bunch. Especially when you compare them to the Minnesota nice fans here is Gods country.

  260. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Vikingology,

    Your opinion is by far the majority in the NFL. Unfortunately the rules have changed so much, the opinion has merit.

    I think you can still run in the NFL. AND Joe Webb can learn to throw even better than he did last season.

    But, surely you agree we need 2 very good QBs to survive in the NFL. One play, and it could be over for either Webb or Ponder.

  261. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Now that we have no starting OG’s does it make sense for PA to suggest adding all skill/weapons on the offense for Ponder to develop? The O line depth can wait till when? How will Ponder survive more than 1.5 seconds to get the ball to these players?

  262. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @61 Vikings,

    It’s good to know you are also a Joe Webb fan.

    Webb-Ponder will both have bad days. Either could
    wind up as MVP, WITH a great team surrounding them!!!

  263. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Spencer,

    Thanks for digging up that Vikings video.

  264. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    JOE WEBB IS A GREAT QUARTERBACK!!!

  265. By Spencer on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    No problem, and Fred, what do you see in Joe Webb?

  266. By Viking-ology on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Fred-yes I agree, but, if we draft Kalil (we bettter) our O-line will be better at protecting Ponder. I would rather have Sage R. at #2 QB (holding the clipboard.) That would free up Webb to be on the field more often to be a playmaker in whatever capacity he is needed. You said you want him on the field right? Being #2 QB guarantees him nothing but the status at being the “QB in waiting…)

  267. By DesertViking on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Fred, I’m a Webb fan as well. Too bad the coaching staff wont give him a chance for at least one more season.

  268. By KoN on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Lol, I know one of the guys in Sh*t Vikings Fans say video.

  269. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    ah heck don’t worry, when the O line doesn’t get addressed WEBB will be the man starting game 3 of the season!!!

  270. By Northern Norseman on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Yeah both of those guys look so familiar……. im going to have to dig in my memory bank for this one.

  271. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Spencer,

    I tried to answer your question about Joe Webb, and Vikings.com reflected it.

    But you know the answer to that question.

    Bart Starr, John Unitas, Kurt Warner, Tom Brady, and Warren Moon were also QBs that had to “Start from scratch.” Joe Webb could be yet another.

    But we need two great QBs. Hence the Webb-Ponder story begins.

  272. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Sandiamond,

    I just hope they don’t both get ACLs.

  273. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    #52 a fred jones”nasty” type of blocker

  274. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Northern Norseman,

    I probably shouldn’t be calling Wobschall, Spielman, etc. “idiots, and etc.

    It doesn’t give a good ” C h r i s t i a n ” message that is for sure. I guess I just figure that they do not read our stuff anyway. And if they do they expect to be called names.

  275. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Sandiamond,

    David DeCastro, Stanford, is a good college guard.

    The video is also an example of how RBs, QBs, and WRs don’t get it done on their own!!!

    Thank you.

  276. By Spencer on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I love the emotion, the passion, and the intensity.

  277. By Spencer on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    We need players like this.

  278. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer AWESOME video finds. I LOLed for both

  279. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Is anyone else aware after the cuts yesterday … we have no starting guards and only Winfield and Jamarca left in the secondary ???????????????

    Our recieving core is Percy – Rudolph – Jenkins

    So Im sure Im not the only one who see’s where the real problems are …. its crystal clear what the Vikings need

    A- OL
    B- DB
    C- WR
    D- Both A and B

    Hint: there is only one right answer

  280. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    With only a 34yo Winfield and Jamarca Sanford left in the secondary …. wouldnt it be safe to say the Vikings have no starting DBs?

  281. By KoN on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Northern Norseman, one of them graduated from my high school a few years ago, he was probably the best high school kicker I saw in my four years of high shcool football. I don’t think he went on to do anything after that though. He was kind of like Longwell, not a super powerful but a great FG kicker.

  282. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Well put Shawn. I didn’t know you were a teacher.

  283. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

  284. By Spencer on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Lol, what a Clown. Is this legit?

  285. By Spencer on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    The Next Great Sport.

  286. By CaribooBill on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Not to be too picky, but I believe Joe Berger “started” in place of Hutch the last two games. So we do have one “starting” guard left. I think if we get Kalil, we’ll have a decent starting O-line. It would be even better if we could pick up Grubbs in free agency.
    I really like Joe Webb, but to say he is a great QB is too much of a stretch. He didn’t play well against Chicago.
    We also need to shore up the backfield to protect PonderWebb against blitz packages. The O-line is responsible for blocking the D-line and some of the up-the-middle LB rushers, but the OLB and DB rushers need to be picked up by the TE’s and RB’s. How many times last year were WebbPonder sacked by blitzing DB’s and LB’s?
    I am more interested in upgrading multiple positions than getting just one big-name FA with an attitude problem.

  287. By Mike B. on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Fred Sorry to burst your bubble but Ponder is the QB of the future for the Vikings. Coach Fraizer even said that Webb is a great #2 QB. Webb is another failed Chilly experiement. Fraizer has even said they are going to use Webb in the #2 role. This would reduce the time on the field. Seahawks are considering Manning, which means TJack is not the guy. Another failed Chilly experiement. Ponder looks like a natural NFL QB and has the skills to be one of the best. Matt Kalil will give him more time to read defenses. These are the facts and what will happen at the start of this year. What happens later is up to fate.

  288. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn a bleak look at the backfield for sure. DB’s look steller( tops in the nfc north) with this hopeful depth outlook:
    A. Allen
    B. Burton
    C. Cook
    M. Raymond
    J. Sanford
    B. Sapp
    A. Winfield

    free agent : R. Marshall or A. Ross or J. Bush(packers)
    2nd round draft pick : S. Gilmore or M. Barron or H. Smith
    4th round draft pick : B. Boykin or J. Norman or D. Bentley or D. Menzie

    maybe just a dream but the vikes would be loaded all the way to the PS

  289. By Mike B. on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Hutch and Ced hold too much money on the cap to keep. They wouldn’t restructure their contracts to the point where their play and what the Vikings could afford matched. They were cut. I wish them good luck on the open market.

  290. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Cariboo Bill,

    Well, I do agree that it’s not big names we need.

    Tennesssee Bud Adams may get P. Manning. So What? If they don’t have a team around him, they won’t win.

    We need two great QBs to win in today’s NFL. Things could change back to 3 yards, and a cloud of dust. But that will not happen soon.

    Shore up the O Line. One player will not do it, but we must prepare for the future.

    Draft Kalil or another great one such as the ones Sandiamond has suggested. Then hit free agency or another high draft choice.

    And with all that, how are we gonna get D-Backs, which is an equally weak area!!!

  291. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Mike B.,

    Nothing said on here is going to burst anyone’s bubble!!!

    What’s with your TJack comment? It’s also been heard that the S’Hawks
    are not seeking a QB.

    Nova Scotia said that we have the greatest fans in the NFL.
    That is a goal we should work towards.

  292. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    #24 4th round steal of the draft!! could be a better corner than kirkpatrick ?

  293. By William Faulkner on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    What’s with all the extreme sports videos Spencer?

  294. By William Faulkner on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Fred Jones, I hope you got a run in– I just did a 30 miler this evening– no one was on the trails– I guess they were out earlier– strange with how warm it is that the trails were so empty.

  295. By KoN on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    The best part of the ping pong video was the score at the end.

  296. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    oops… M. Sherels also

  297. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Sir William Faulkner,

    Yes indeed, I did get a run in today.

    It’s strange that you did not see many other bikers today. I did not see any dogs today, although I did hear some.

    I am not missing the dogs at all!

  298. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Perhaps young Marcus Sherels does read these posts in Vikings.com.

    Sherels, you can do it buddy! The Vikings are now on an upward spiral.
    It will be worth running those hills!!!

  299. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Joe Webb is an up-and-coming NFL Quarterback. If he becomes a starter, you may very well see M. Vick’s rushing records fall!!!

  300. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    The NFL is becoming a running QB league…Cam Newton, Michael Vick, Tarvaris Jackson, Rodgers, Webb, Ponder, RG3, Luck, etc.

    Joe Webb may be the best out of all of them!!!

    Spielman may be thinking he doesn’t need linemen. Joe’ll just run around them!!!

    That is not true Mr. Spielman. We need OLinemen, and Defensive Backs.
    DESPERATELY!!!

  301. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    JOE WEBB IS A QUARTERBACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  302. By KoN on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    DeQuan does seem to be pretty good, especially if he’s there in the fourth round. According to the NFL website he is instinctual, fast, strong, and a playmaker. In the combine however, he ran a 4.74 40, had a 33 in vert, and a 116 in broad jump, putting him in the bottom half of CBs in all of those drills. The website did list speed as one of his pros, so he must be nearly as fast with pads on as he is without. Another con, he is only 5’11”.

  303. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Very good point Fred! I do know Sanford has recently met with new D coordinator Alan Williams and is very excited about next year(working out in the gym) Let’s hope young Sherels is doing the same!

  304. By William Faulkner on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Fred– I went out between 5 and 7– got a late start, but still– 60 degrees on a March evening? You would think it would be packed– must have been the cloud cover. I saw a Sonja look-alike on a bridge- I gave that Dobie a good stare to keep its distance.

  305. By William Faulkner on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I really really hope AP can have a great year– keep praying.

  306. By William Faulkner on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I think the Webb naysayers who tout how great Ponder will be in the future forget that Webb has only played a handful of games and is essentially a rookie– he has two years with two or three starts under two different coaching systems– so the same who say Webb does not have it are not consistent in their logic. Sure, Webb has a couple bad games but he has some really good ones too– given a fair chance, I bet he would be very good.

  307. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Kon I believe Menzie is well coached(Saban) and ready for the nfl:

  308. By KoN on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I think that both Webb and Ponder are both great football players. However, I believe that Ponder is a bit better at the QB position than Webb. Webb is more athletic and therefore more dynamic, but Ponder is better at throwing and he’s a smarter QB (not in reference to actual intellect, but the way they play the game). I feel that Ponder is the guy we should look to going forward, ultimately it is up to the coaches, but, as of righ now, it appears that they feel the same. All of that being said, I think that Joe Webb is arguably the second best #2 QB in the NFL (behind Flynn).

  309. By DRS on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Rocksalt, both sides are putting the brakes on the stadium Issue, and that is all because the taxpayers are putting pressure on them to stop the building of the stadium. They the Taxpayers do not want their Tax money to go to rich owners and players; they want that money to go to schools and such.

  310. By Jkmak on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Making cap room will be good for the team, I think with the draft we need a deep threat at receiver withJustin Blackmon. I know it may be a long shot but Manning to coach Ponder might not be a bad idea keep the kid around and have a mentor for him. Plenty of free agents out there to help build the team with some veterans.

  311. By KoN on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    JKmak, the Vikes are in rebuilding mode this year so they aren’t looking for veterans, mostly just young guys with upawards potential.

  312. By Gary on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Fred – Why would the Seahawks draft a QB in 2012? If they win hardly, they get Barkley. I wouldn’t be surprised if they trade out of round 1 to add a first rounder in 2013. Then they can use 2 picks to move up for their QB.
    Jkmak – Manning HAS NO INTEREST IN COMING HERE. Blackmon is overrated, plenty of faster guys available later on. Draft Kalil, PROTECT THE QB.
    ALL – Invest is second tier free agents, buy low, let them leave when they are too high. Don’t reward someone for what they did for their
    FORMER team.

  313. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    The part about Ponder being smarter than Webb has not really been proven. You have to make smart decisions with the ball.

    For Ponder, it’s probably going to mean pass, more often than run.

    For Webb, it may mean run, more often than pass.

    Both young QBs have done that. Now they need to improve their weaknesses. I believe that they would have more incentive to do that if an O Line and D Backs could be secured.

    One Tackle, and one CB will not even come close to being enough.

  314. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Spielman should not waste too much time on QBs, RBs, TEs, WRs, LBs, DLs, etc.

    Not that we don’t need them!!!

    What we don’t need is AN OFFENSIVE LINE THAT IS THE WORST IN THE NFL FOR THE NEXT TEN SEASONS!!!

    What we don’t need is A DEFENSIVE BACKFIELD THAT IS THE WORST IN THE NFL FOR THE NEXT TEN SEASONS!!!

    WE DO NOT NEED THAT LIKE THE LIONS OF THE 1990s or THE SAINTS OF THE 1970s. It happens when you make those kind of mistakes.

  315. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Gary,

    I never said the Seahawks should draft a Qb! What I said was that one of the networks said they were not in the market for a QB!!!

  316. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Gary,

    Your point is very good about not paying someone for what they did for their former team.

    There are a lot of good football players in AMERICA.

    We need just a few of the 6-5 300 pound guys that can block.

    And some people who can cover the 12 year old from St. Mary’s!

  317. By Mike R. on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I like Menzie. He was the “quiet” player coming out of Alabama. But everyone was checking out Upshaw,Hightower,Kirkpatrick…etc. I saw his 40 time at combine. Wasn’t really good. He had better time at Pro Day. Now Mayock has him as one of his top 5 safeties. Is he a product of Alabama’s defense? Where everyone had their job to do and got everyones back?

  318. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I hate the feeling that Spielman is going to do it again!

    He might draft a QB in the 1st round, and/or obtain one via free agency.

    Doesn’t it turn your gut?

  319. By Frederick Jones on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Spielman may again wait until the 5th, 6th, or 7th round to draft offensive linemen.

    He may wait to draft a DB as well.

    At least if he does that, HE’LL BE GONE NEXT YEAR!!!

  320. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    2011 stats

    Kirkpatrick
    pass broken up 9
    tackles 24 solo 5 assist
    forced fumbles 2
    tackle for a loss 4

    Menzie
    pass broken up 11
    int 1
    tackles 28 solo 13 assist
    sacks 1.5

    Mike numbers look about the same but a difference in round 1 vs 4-5

  321. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

  322. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    * Menzie tackle for a loss 4

  323. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

  324. By Geiber on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Sign Josh Morgan of the 49ers, as of 6 hours ago they were still trying to resign him. He is coming off of a season long injury and he is only 26. He is a way under rated reciever and I’d say we should make an offer and see what happens.

  325. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

  326. By Geiber on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I know this sounds crazy but I have this gut feeling that Michael Floyd would be a better pick than Blackmon. I know it sounds crazy because Blackmon appears to be amazing but I have this gut feeling that who ever drafts Floyd will really be a “lucky” team and will get a steal at what ever pick they get him.

  327. By Geiber on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I would love for the Vikings to get Kalil but I think it is easier to find a great OL than to find a great CB so like some other people have said I think Claiborne would maybe be a better pick than Kalil at 3. I wish we could have gotten the deal the rams did…Dang if only we had lost a few more games and started advertising we were going to draft RG3.

  328. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    WR Pierre Garcon 25 years old had 70 catches for 940 yards and 6 TDs on a 1 Win football team with a 40+year old Kerry Collins / Curtis Painter / Dan Orlovsky throwing to him.

    http://www.nfl.com/player/pierregarcon/2346/profile

  329. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    2011 stats

    Barron
    pass broken up 5
    int 2
    tackles 41 solo 25 assist
    tackle for a loss 5
    sacks 1

  330. By Geiber on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Floyd, Kalil or Claiborne and i’ll be happy. It’s to bad we couldn’t go back 3-4 spots and pick up a 2nd round or something and still get claiborne and then trade up and get floyd what a mess but god would i be happy. And then start drafting OL’s and a lot of them.

  331. By Geiber on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Who the heck cares who we get, I just want to watch some football!

  332. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Vincent Jackson Likely To Sign Elsewhere

    In the end, V-Jax to the Vikings didn’t make the most sense in the world. He’s 29-years-old, is set to command a 5-year deal worth north of $40 million and the Vikings have to look younger.

    http://thevikingage.com/2012/03/11/vincent-jackson-likely-to-sign-elsewhere/

  333. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Geiber you could be right. Floyd the best looking reciever at the combine to me. maybe some team will draft him before chicago awaits

  334. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    If VJAx will be in the 5 year 40Million range … Than Garcon should be in the 25-30 million range

    which would give us room for a couple 2nd and 3rd tier DBs

    Marshall and Eric Wright maybe

    Kalil and Barron or Harrison Smith

  335. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    sandiamond … i wasnt even thinking cook or sapp when i made my db comment earlier

    Sapp is a free agent and cook might not be free ….

    as far as I know our secondary looks like

    Sanford
    Raymond
    Winfield
    Allen
    Burton
    Sherels

    OUCH

  336. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    If we sign Marshall and Eric Wright … draft Baron or Smith in the 2nd and Minnifield in the 3rd …. ?

  337. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    2011 stats

    Harrison Smith
    tackles 53 solo 37 assist
    tackle for a loss 3
    pass broken up 10
    forced fumble 1

  338. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I wouldnt mind ignoring the WR position till the fourth round and making Carl Nicks our one big FA then everything else i said earlier

  339. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    round 1- LT Kalil
    round 2- S Baron or Smith
    round 3- CB Minnifield
    round 4- WR McNutt
    round 4b- DT Ta’amu

  340. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    shawn hope we keep sapp for depth and maybe cook coming in mid-season. like Spielman said “you can’t have enough corners
    yep that six pack you posted will not cut-it!

  341. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I dont think we will land any big names because we are not a competitive team … I think we need to just add some teir 2 or 3 guys to become competitive in 2012 so the big fish will be interested in 2013

  342. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I think Garcon might be our biggest possibility since he will have some familiarity with DC Williams and OL CJohnson

    Garcon has had 2 700+ yard seasons and a 900 yard season which is better than Berrian had when Chilly went after him

  343. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    hmm actually the 2 seasons Berrian had b4 we signed him were almost identical to Garcon’s last 2 seasons

  344. By Mike R. on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    sandiamond

    it looks like you have been going over stats like I have…lol…I know…I have no life but what am going to do? Watch a good Vikings game in the fall? (sarcasm) :-)

  345. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    nice find on Wright. Both he and Marshall have about the same stats and nfl exp. They are not going to drop int’s!

  346. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    lol yea I never payed much attention before but the stat kingyyyyyyy taught me something

  347. By Mike R. on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I think everyone should post their preferred Vikings mock draft (sandiamond,Carl K,Nova,Shawn,Frederick Jones etc etc) see how similiar or different opinions can be. The talking bobble heads on NFL network do it everyday up to the draft…lol

  348. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    LOL Mike R … my only problem is I get bored with other teams pretty quickly so I dont know their needs

    when I was younger I would watch 4 games every weekend but now I can only watch a Viking game and the playoffs

  349. By Shawn on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    I did post my viking first 5 picks mock a few posts up

  350. By sandiamond on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Mike yea right after the early free agent signing period. Somebody should keep track of a liitle contest after the winter meetings that will determine our picks and what rounds

  351. By Mike R. on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn

    Thanx. My bad. Just want to see what others think the Vikings should draft by round or trade up or down….but I guess by Tuesday we will see what players are available from NFL…could change persons opinion of who to draft, except Frederick Jones….OL and CB,S (which I agree very much)

  352. By Gary on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    @Fred – My comment on the Seahawks was not meant to say that you said they would draft a QB, but rather to provide the logic behind why the news media source was reporting that Seattle was not interested in a QB.
    Sorry for any misunderstanding on this.
    Thanks for the acknowledgement on NOT paying for top flite free agents. That’s for teams that are a player away and are living only for today. Fact is if the Vikes “hit” with EVERY draft choice, they would STILL have issues.

  353. By Mike R. on Mar 11, 2012 | Reply

    sandiamond

    yes that sounds good. Maybe that will open up some eyes to some “sandiamonds” in the rough. :-)

  354. By GrandDaddyPurp on Mar 12, 2012 | Reply

    Rd1 OT Matt Kalil
    Rd2 S Mark Barron
    Rd3 CB Chase Minnifield
    Rd4 WR Brian Quick
    Comp 4thRd LB Sean Spence
    Comp 4thRd DT Mike Martin

    Assuming we get two extra 4th round picks

  355. By CaribooBill on Mar 12, 2012 | Reply

    @Fred:
    I think we are on the same page wrt QB’s. We also have someone named McLeod Bethel-Thompson (6′-4″, 230 lbs.) on the roster out of Sacramento State. I know little to nothing about college ball – does anyone know anything about this guy – he has good size?????
    As far as DB’s and LB’s are concerned, we obviously have problems there. I suspect that we will use free agency to upgrade there.
    I also wouldn’t be surprised to see more cuts by Tuesday.

  356. By Vikingfan95 on Mar 12, 2012 | Reply

    I think we should definately get Pierre Garcon, hes quick, good hands and pretty good size at 6’0. we have the best chance getting him

  357. By tate on Mar 12, 2012 | Reply

    i will not be a vikings fan unless they get aaron rogers,eli manning, or payton manning

  358. By New Vike on Mar 12, 2012 | Reply

    @GrandDaddyPurp- I sincerely hope that you are right, because I am 100% on board with that draft. I have my doubts that Barron or Minnifield fall into the Vikes laps but it would be great. Absoluty love Brian Quick, especially in the 4th.

  359. By brian on Mar 12, 2012 | Reply

    Trade the #3 pick to the rams. Get there #6, a second rounder pick and a fifth round pick. Use our second round pick , fifth round pick to move up to NE first round and get Mike Wallace.

  360. By Davey on Mar 12, 2012 | Reply

    The Vikings talk tough choices and upgrade and the first news is resigning Sage Rosenfels???

  361. By VikeFan on Mar 12, 2012 | Reply

    This is what I think:

    1st Round: Matt Kalil = No brainer
    2nd Round: Mark Barron (S) or Harrison Smith (S)
    3rd Round: Brian Quick (WR) or Nick Toon (WR)
    4th Round: DeQuan Menzie (CB)
    4th Round: Jamell Fleming (CB) compensatory
    4th Round: Josh Chapman (NT) compensatory
    5th Round: Audie Cole (ILB)
    6th Round: Tank Carder (OLB)
    7th Round: Drake Dunsmore (TE/FB)
    7th Round: Best Player Available

    Free Agency: I would like to See (*) Names as Vikings
    Kyle Orton*, QB Age: 29 (place a modest bid)
    Sage Rosenfels, QB Age: 34 (place a fair and affordable bid)
    Michael Bush, RB Age: 28 (place a modest bid)
    Jared Gaither, OT Age: 26 (place a fair and affordable bid)
    Demetrius Bell*, OT Age: 28 (place a competitive bid)
    Carl Nicks, G, Age: 27 (place a fair and affordable bid)
    Ben Grubbs*, G, Age: 28 (place a competitive bid)
    Amobi Okoye, DT, Age: 25 (place a modest bid)
    Erin Henderson*, OLB, Age: 26 (place a fair and affordable bid)
    Stephen Tulloch*, ILB, Age: 27 (place a competitive bid)
    Curtis Lofton, ILB, Age: 26 (place a fair and affordable bid)
    Brandon Carr*, CB, Age: 26 (place a competitive bid)
    Cortland Finnegan, CB, Age: 28 (place a fair and affordable bid)
    LaRon Landry*, SS, Age: 27 (place a competitive bid)
    Vincent Jackson*, WR, Age: 29 (place a competitive bid)
    Marques Colston, WR, Age: 29 (place a competitive bid)

  362. By Jerimy Frosch on Mar 13, 2012 | Reply

    The should not sign any free agent O-lineman,safety,Corner Back or wide receiver because they would be over paying for the services of those players.

  363. By ray on Mar 13, 2012 | Reply

    We need a # 1 Wideout there is alot to choose from in free agency i hope the vikes are smart in free agency this year for once

  364. By mtolzmann on Mar 13, 2012 | Reply

    take kalil at #3. sign colston or grab hill at #2. then finish out with defense. lets build from the draft like most of the great teams do. look for value in the fa market. we are indeed lucky to get kalil at #3. any other draft he would go #1. we have so many needs to fill this year. lets get younger and hungrier. hate to see some of these guys leave, but its just time.

  365. By vincent hagen on Mar 13, 2012 | Reply

    here i thought we were in rebuilding mode and we haven’t placed a interest in one single free agent. typical vikings move
    thought with a new gm things would be different
    not so much

  366. By rush on Mar 14, 2012 | Reply

    Guess we don’t need offense in our league, Bears just improved, GB is top notch offense, Lions not bad offense, here we are Rookie QB, Offensive line shambles even with Kalil he can’t stop the right side rush that is what a good defense will do, then at RB is he coming back 100% ?? and who are our wide receivers do we have any?? another 3-5 win season. looks like my gear will stay up in the attic for another season!!

  367. By rush on Mar 14, 2012 | Reply

    @ Vikefan your FA list just got about 6-7 shorter.

  368. By rainydaze on Mar 15, 2012 | Reply

    I know Kalil is a great olineman but can we pass on blackmon, he is a big playmaker and another great target for a young QB. Can the ikes afford to pass on a DB or SS,we all know we cant find one in the later rounds. Trade #2 pick for a good left tackle, we did give our #1pick for Jarod Allen, that was onegreatmove

  369. By packerh8r on Mar 16, 2012 | Reply

    If were in a 5 year rebuilding plan why keep Adrian Peterson Jared Allen Kevin Williams I mean Spielman got rid of every player on our team that will loose a step by then why not go all out O ya jersey sales, filling seats, and getting a stadium are still important when can we get a vikings organization full of people concerned with one thing and one thing only that matters WINNING NOW BUILD OFF THE WINNERS WE HAVE NOT BLOWING UP THE TEAM WITH THE BIG INFLATABLE TOILET

  370. By TWB-Vikings on Mar 18, 2012 | Reply

    It would be interesting to hear from Jared Allen, Adrian Peterson, & Kevin Williams concerning the so-call rebuilding of the team. I am sure that they want to win a championship now – at least contend for one. In my opinion these guy’s deserve that shot. I hope the Vikings front office & coaching staff realized that.

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