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23 Quick Observations From The 2012 NFL Scouting Combine

Posted by Mike Wobschall on February 29, 2012 – 6:32 am

1. Andrew Luck solidified his standing at the #1 prospect in this draft. Robert Griffin III did the same at the #2 position. I’d argue that in any other year dating back to 1998 (Peyton Manning), RG3 would be #1 player in the draft class, with the possible exception being 2001 (Michael Vick).

2. The St. Louis Rams, who hold the #2 overall pick right now, WILL trade out of that spot, and I think Cleveland is in the best position (#4 overall) to move up and get him.

3. Matt Kalil is the best LT prospect in this class, just ask him. But I do agree, and the Vikings and Vikings fans should be pleased to get him.

4. Might want to scratch WR Pierre Garcon off your free-agent wish list. A prominent ESPN personality predicted to me that he’ll stay in Indy. Also, Peter King of Sports Illustrated suggests Peyton Manning and Reggie Wayne might be a package deal in free agency.

5. Expect a large number of teams to utilize the franchise tag to retain their most-valued free agents. This will shrink what appears to be a thick market at several positions.

6. WR Vincent Jackson is not a likely candidate to be tagged, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Vikings take a run at him, although the Vikings certainly won’t be the only team interested. Outside of Jackson, though, I don’t think the Vikings will be major players at the top end of the free agent market.

7. It was interesting to hear insiders talk about the significance of schools hosting their Pro Days before the NFL begins its free agency period (March 13). This means that at the start of free agency, most NFL GMs will be on the road scouting draft prospects.

8. Expect a fairly liberal roster turnover for the Vikings this offseason.

9. Interesting to hear Vikings Head Coach Leslie Frazier explain the team must prepare as if CB Chris Cook will not be on the team in 2012. That’s not Frazier making any prediction, it’s just him simply explaining that the team must prepare for the worst-case scenario. I’d add that regardless of Cook’s status, CB is still a need for the Vikings.

10. Notre Dame WR Michael Floyd was a winner at the Combine because he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.47 seconds. That’s quicker than some anticipated, and I think it assures he’ll go in the 1st round rather than the early part of the 2nd round.

11. Other WRs who jumped up during the Combine were Georgia Tech’s Stephen Hill (4.36 in 40-yard dash), Wake Forest’s Chris Givens (think: Jeremy Maclin) and Appalachian State’s Brian Quick (played for Vikings staff at Senior Bowl).

12. The “best player available” (BPA) strategy will be in play for the Vikings this year, especially as it pertains to the team’s 2nd-round pick (currently #35 overall). Even if the BPA is a DE, RB or TE, I wouldn’t put it past GM Rick Spielman and his personnel staff to simply select the best football player on the board, regardless of position, when they’re on the clock. That’s a good way to infuse a talent-depleted roster with some talent.

13. An underrated aspect of this year’s draft class is the depth and top-end talent at DT. “I’ve got anywhere from five to seven potential first-round defensive tackles, which is atypical,” NFL Network’s Mike Mayock said of the DT class during this week’s Wobcast. “Usually in a year you might have three first-round grades. So twice as many potential first-round picks. There is depth throughout the entire defensive tackle class, regardless of position.” Memphis’ Dontari Poe stole the show at the Combine, but he’s not the only talented, potential run-stopping DT out there. I also like Michael Brockers, Fletcher Cox, Kendall Reyes, Devon Still and Jerel Worthy.

14. Speaking of NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock, he’s THE best in the business at analyzing these college players and communicating his opinions under the bright lights with the cameras rolling. Truly a treat to work with him.

15. Not one national reporter/personality I spoke with at the Combine was negative on Christian Ponder. Most anticipate the Vikings adding talent around him to put him in position to succeed.

16. CB Janoris Jenkins is an interesting prospect. He’s a kid with clear 1st-round talent, but off-field issues might cause some teams to pause. “I’ve made a few mistakes and I’ve learned from them,” he was quoted as saying by Peter King. As King later noted, the question is, who will take a shot on a very good talent at a vital position, who is such a risk? Maybe the Vikings if he falls as far as #35, or even falls far enough for the Vikings to consider trading up to get him?

17. Indianapolis is a tremendous host city for big events such as the Combine. It’s in the Midwest, the residents are generally courteous, happy people, there’s a brand-new airport close to downtown, there are plenty of hotels and great restaurants, an elaborate skyway system links most of downtown, and Lucas Oil Stadium is a first-class facility.

18. A few small-school CBs to watch in this year’s draft class: Dwight Bentley (UL-Lafayette), Jenkins, Trumaine Johnson (Montana) and Ryan Steed (Furman).

19. I prefer Caribou Coffee to Starbucks. Our hotel had a Starbucks on the 2nd level, which I frequented each day and was satisfied with, but I prefer Caribou.

20. I wonder if hailing from such a great program (University of Alabama) has inflated the draft stock of LBs Dont’a Hightower and Courtney Upshaw. I just wasn’t impressed with their on-field workouts, but I’ll also acknowledge game tape means much more than the Combine, plus they still have their Pro Day.

21. This was my 5th visit to the NFL Scouting Combine, but just the first time I tried a pizza parlor called Bazbeaux. Awesome thin crust pizza with a generous portion of toppings, a great atmosphere, a cool bar area and quick seating despite the place being packed to the brim on a busy Saturday night.

22. I thoroughly enjoyed my two days of co-hosting radio Voice of the Vikings Paul Allen’s weekday 9-noon radio show on KFAN.

23. A couple of sleeper picks for the Vikings in the 2nd round: S Harrison Smith (Notre Dame) and DL Nick Perry (USC).


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223 Responses to “23 Quick Observations From The 2012 NFL Scouting Combine”

  1. By Carl K on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Mike Wobby _ #6 Vincent Jackson. You said that outside of Vicent Jackson you don’t think the Vikings will be a major players at the top end of the free agent market. Why? Our defense needs help! Do you not think guys like Brent Grimes, Carlos Rogers, Brandon Carr, Tyvon Branch, Michael Griffin, Cortland Finnegan, Stephen Tulloch or Curtis Lofton can help the Vikings?

  2. By Spencer *5 Days* on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Im sure Wobbs thinks they can help the Vikings, Carl. But the main question is this: Do those players want to play for the Vikings?

  3. By Spencer *5 Days* on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    http://min.scout.com/a.z?s=63&p=2&c=1163071&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fmin.scout.com%2f2%2f1163071.html

  4. By Spencer *5 Days* on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    I dont get it, I just dont get it. Frazier is not committed to winning.

    http://www.rantsports.com/minnesota-vikings/2012/02/28/frazier-is-optimistic-about-return-of-cb-cedric-griffin/

  5. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    There isn’t a lot of WR’s worth going after in free agency..I agree with Wobby there…Wayne wants to follow Manning wherever he goes…Only other ones that sound decent after that would be V Jackson,P Garcon, and M Colston…If the Vikings can’t land one of those 3…I would be looking at a lot of young talent in this springs draft…Because there is a lot of talent at WR in this springs draft…As there is at conerback…And at a lot cheaper price tag…

    I think the Vikings will get one solid player on the offense or defense in free agency…But really only see them taking on one big name talent…And expect that person to be a younger talent…

  6. By Carl K on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Last year the Vikings didn’t make a major splash by adding any top end free agents either.

    The Vikings were comfortable signing mid market guys like Charle Johnson, Remi Ayodele, D Aromashodu and Michael Jenkins. Tell me how did that work out?

    I realize that Minnesota is not the most attractive team right now… and that the Vikings don’t have as much cap space as other teams, but why not invest in 1 blue chip free agent game changer type player over 3 or 4 mid market guys?

  7. By Carl K on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    The Vikings will have 10 pick in the draft this year, so is it too much to ask that the Vikings focus on “qaulity” over “quantity” when it comes to free agency this off season?

  8. By DRS on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Minnesota Vikings won’t re-sign Greg Camarillo
    By Jeremy Fowler
    jfowler@pioneerpress.comtwincities.com
    Posted: 02/28/2012 12:01:00 AM CST
    February 28, 2012 10:26 PM GMT Updated: 02/28/2012 04:26:59 PM CST

    The Minnesota Vikings informed Greg Camarillo last week that they will not re-sign the wide receiver.

    Camarillo, acquired in a August 2010 trade from the Dolphins after back-to-back 50-catch seasons, never could establish a consistent role in Minnesota, where he finished with 29 catches, 361 yards and one touchdown. Before the 2011 season, the Vikings cut Camarillo’s $1.7 million salary almost in half as a stipulation to stay on the team.

    Camarillo’s value is as an inside receiver, where Percy Harvin commands much of the workload in Minnesota. Despite Harvin’s presence, the Vikings sent nickel corner Benny Sapp to Miami for Camarillo after wide receiver Sidney Rice’s hip surgery.

    Entering his seventh NFL season, Camarillo could latch onto a team because of his intelligence and sure hands.

    Camarillo is one of two wide receivers among the Vikings’ 17 prospective free agents, along with Devin Aromashodu.

  9. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Hope Spielman has other ideas about C Griffin…Frazier likes keeping players around that should be released…Just like some guys have a hard time throwing away a comfortable pair of pants…They might be all worn out…Rips and stains all over them…And the wife won’t go out in public being seen with him wearing those pants…But still are the first pair Frazier grabs out of the dresser drawer…Instead on breaking in a new pair right next to them…Frazier is really looking like a coach that doesn’t like change to me…And that is not good for a game that changes around him constantly…Just glad Spielman is in charge of players now…I like Frazier…Just do not like the way he clings to players too long…Berrian and McNabb are 2 solid reasons Spielman is in charge…Let Spielman decide what to do with Griffen Les….Just coach…

  10. By LifeLongVikesFan on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Good piece Wobs, I love the idea of observations 3, 6 and 12 playing out in the Vikes favor, but I must strongly dissagree with your coffee ranking of Caribou over Starbucks. Starbucks takes caribou out back for a good old fashion #@$$ whiping. Also, did you loose your las t2 observations, why not 25 Quick Observations or even 20 Quick Observations, or maybe even 30, but 23? Did you edit your list, come on give us the last two?

  11. By DRS on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/140442883.html

    Should Griffin fall to Vikings, do they dare take a pass?

  12. By DRS on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/140510873.html

    Montana’s Trumaine Johnson: Water boy, safety, whatever

  13. By DRS on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    No new news on the stadium, everyone have a great day.

  14. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Yes you pass on RG3 … we have a QB. I have watched the draft for 20ish straight years. What Ive learned is you never know. Griffin does look good and sounds like a smart kid but so did Tim Couch.

    We dont need to start over for the second year in a row , Ponder will be a good QB he just needs time and talent around him.

  15. By Mike B. on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    I think the issue here is that the Vikings are probably looking at guys that are early in their carreers or middle. The team is in rebuilding mode, so they are not going to spend a lot for high end talent. Probably pick a young vets that show potential. Just like they are not tagging any of their playes. The team is looking to be younger and build for the future. I am wondering how this will reflect the team being back in the playoffs. We have the best running back in the league with limited shelf life are we doing him any favors with this youth movement. I think we should also look at getting stars to put us back in the playoffs quicker.

  16. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Jeff George was supposed to be the greatest QB ever he had all the physical tools and although he wasnt a bad qb he never reached his “potential”

    Sometimes potential is just a word with no meaning … see Chris Cook for example. Hes done nothing with his potential.

  17. By Mike B. on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    DRS that is a good question about RG3. I am sure Spielman is going to factor that in his decision. The Rams are just as likely to pick Kalil as trade down to Washington. Do we pick RG3? Do we trade down for him if the Rams pick Kalil? If we pick RG3, do we trade off Ponder or Webb for picks? I am sure these are all played out possibilities by draft time.

  18. By Carl K on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    If I were Griffin… I would have asked to be cut by now if he was truely unhappy as a Viking. Much like Staford Routt. Test the free agent market early!

    I think Griffin can still play, and if he is willing to move to safety, he may or may not need to restructure his deal.

    The Vikings are in no hurry to cut Griffin now, but Griffin would have much to gain if he was on the market now rather than just before camp.

    At this point, I think the Vikings would cut Griffin if he was requesting it. So with that said, I have hope Cedrick and the Vikings want to work this out.

  19. By Mike B. on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Our draft decisions are dependent on #1 and #2 so we will see how it plays out.

  20. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Picking RG3 would be the dumbest possible choice.

  21. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Guess I can blog for a few days again tomorrow on a c c e s s vikings for the s t r i b……Beginning of the month 20 free articles…how lame…How goofy that they want bloggers to pay for membership fee…Not this guy…And I have been on their blog site for at least 5 yrs…And this grandpa doesn’t even get a “grandfather clause” to blog on that site…

  22. By Mike B. on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    I dont’ know about our Def Secondary it’s a mess. Cook was starting to show he is a good CB, but will he be on the team. We still haven’t heard if the NFL will have sanctions against him. Griffin was still not back to 100% last year and maybe this is the year. He was very unhappy about his benching. I am not sure that Ced and Leslie can resolve this.

  23. By TGP on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Personally I like to see Spielman working the phones to inform Clev., Mia., Was., Sea & Den that the price to move up to # 3 would be much cheaper than to jump to # 2. For instants I’d tell Clev. they can have this spot for both their first rd. picks this year, as apossed to Stl. demand for both # 1 plus a #2 & 3 next year. For the rest of the teams that I mention a #1& 3 this year and their #1 next year. If we have to stay at #3 then we take kalil and hope Jenkins falls to 35 or go with safety from ND.

  24. By sandiamond on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    There are a few rumours out there that NE could switch course and trade up this year for a player they covet. Cinn and NE with 2 #1 picks should be encouraged to talk with the vikings

    @ number 3 We will have claiborne, kalil and blackmon on the market for other teams

  25. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    There it is…Just knew when Wobby put that junk up J Jenkins…With his off the field baggage…And on how far he would have to fall for the Vikings to pounce on him…Who cares ???…How far will the good players fall for the Vikings to take them ???…Leave the garbage outside the door for a change where it belongs…There are tons of talented players in this draft…Why take ANY chances with troubled players…

  26. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Kalil is worth 3 draft picks…That’s why you take the stud OT….

  27. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    OTK … Im with you way too many good players with tons of talent and potential that are not thugs. We dont need more trouble makers we need football players let someone else deal with the Janoris Jenkens and Pacman Jones and Chris Cooks

  28. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Kalil is an absolute STEAL !!!…With the Vikings first pick in the draft…If Spielman wants to play around moving draft picks…Let him start in the second round…After they already have a stud on our team with their first pick…

  29. By Carl K on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    NO DEAL – take Matt Kalil.

  30. By Carl K on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Quality over Quanty!

  31. By Carl K on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Quantity

  32. By sandiamond on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    OT the reason is because of past history potential explosive rewards like warren sapp and steve smith(car) to name a few

  33. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Kalil will be on the offensive line that J Allen is on the defensive line for the Vikes…How much did Allen cost the Vikings in draft picks ??…Let alone the sign him to a huge money contract….Kalil only costs Spielman one draft pick…And the rookie wage scale gives Kalil to the Vikings for half the cost he would have gotten in last year s draft !!…Spielman has to be drooling at the mouth seeing the price sky rocket for RG III…Knowing it looks more and more the Vikings will get the chance to grab Kalil because of that…

  34. By sandiamond on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Best case: vikings trade #3 for Cinn #17,22

    17,22,35 take care of a chunk of needs. we get CB,LT and WR or throw in a BPA by the time we get to #35. sweeeeeeeeeeet!

  35. By sandiamond on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    *21

  36. By Mike B. on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    @Sandiamond I have to disagree if the two QBS fall 1 2. The vikings take Kalil and call it a successful draft. That’s the best option from what I have heard Kalil is the real deal.

  37. By Carl K on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Collecting a lot of “serviceable” talent over building or grabbing the best talent you can get, is NOT how I would build a championship team.

    With 17, 22 we would NOT get a franchise OT. We would be settling for “serviceable”. Is that really the message you want to send your team?

    Why not sign a high end CB in free agency and take Matt Kalil at #3 and a WR at the top of round 2? Rueben Randle, Stephen Hill, Alshon Jeffery, M Sanu may all be right there.

    Then trade up from round 3 for Harrison Smith.

  38. By sandiamond on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Well it’s just one trade scenario taking a hit at LT but if we don’t pick Kalil then this option sounds much better to me

  39. By sandiamond on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Carl 17,21 is much more than serviceable when we have a team with some many holes. talking 47,58 would be serviceable slots

  40. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Carl K…Now that’s what I call thinking like a GM !!!….Awesome choice on player evaluations !!!…Only one in there that draws concern for me is Ashlon Jeffery…That guy looks like a red flag WR to me…Can’t even put my finger on the reason why…Looks slow in his route running also…

  41. By Carl K on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Alshon has taken a lot of heat lately, but he is a big time playmaker on the football field. He is a lot like Sidney Rice… a little slow but a guy that can make the tough catch in traffic and can some how stretch the field.

    I look for Alshon’s stock to rise after people see his proday and watch more film on him. He is not my favorite WR but he is a playmaker.

    The 40 time is over rated! Jerry Rice ran in the 4.7 range at the combine.
    A tenth of a second on the field can be made up quickly with good instinct, technique, and proper angers, routes and positioning.

  42. By Carl K on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Alshon has first round hands, technique and playmaking ability.
    I would take a hard look at him with pick #35. When football was being played just 3 or 4 months ago, everyone had ranked in the top 10-15.

    He is a proven “playmaker”.

  43. By New Vike on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    While I cannot disagree with Carl’s take, I can’t disagree with sandiamond either. Kalil+free agent cb or wr+wr or cb at 35 is not a bad way to go. However if they did trade with Cincy for 17 and 22 you have to think you can get Michael Floyd/Jonathon Martin, Mike Adams, Dre Kirkpatrick, Janoris jenkins/Decastro/dontari poe/Luke keichly/Maike Barron. Any combination of those positions at 17 and 22. Then at 35 you can nab Alshon/that monster tackle from georgia/Sanu/Maybe Kendell Wright/Stephan hill/Stephen Gilmore/Zach Brown/Harrison Smith. I am not sure which i prefer but you cannot really go wrong either way. Depending on who the fa wr/db would be. I would love Vincent Jackson/Brandon Carr/Tyvon Branch. Depending on who is franchised there are others that fit very well.

  44. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    I just can’t see it…All the film I see on the kid…He seems to be wearing defenders closer to his body than his jersey…But has a little jumping ability…But want more than a red zone type receiver for the Vikes…Vikes need a tall and stretch the field kind of WR…Jeffery just looks big and some what clumsy to me…And like he runs like he is running slow like in sand…Maybe its just me…Like I said..Can’t seem to put my finger on why I would pass on the guy ??…Just know the feeling there…

  45. By New Vike on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    I agree with Carl’s take on Alshon. Love him at pick 35 if he is there

  46. By sandiamond on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Jeffery came in 6′ 1″ half tho he wasn’t he listed at 6’3? confused on alshon’s ability too. I guess burfict and jeffery will always be THE 2 that we watch for years to see how they turned out in the nfl

  47. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    You want a steal at #35…Hope that Setphen Hill stays on the board that long…4.34 speed…With good hands…That kid gets a first step off the scrimmage line that will have conerbacks playing back 15 yds worring which way that kid is going to take off from the line…Hill is going to be special…

  48. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Alshon Jeffery might be a good pick at 35 …. Cris Carter wasnt fast but he caught everything

  49. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    What really concerns me…Both Jeffery and Burfict should have came into shape at the combine looking to make millions of dollars…Both look liked they could care less what happens to them ??…I don’t want a player like that playing for the Vikings…We have had them on the team to much in recent history…And don’t need any in the near future…

  50. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    but i think id rather have Stephen Hill … who is bigger and faster than Jeffery

  51. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    OTK … I agree. When a guy refuses to run or lift it tell me he has something to hide.Burfict is a not before late round 4 guy to me. Maybe JUST MAYBE take a flyer on him in round 4 with one of the extra picks but otherwise no way.

  52. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    looks like he cam in at 6’3″ but he was listed at 6’4″

    http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/alshon-jeffery?id=2533039

  53. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn…Burfict came in way out of shape…And also totally blew his personal interviews…Some scout have Burfict going on drafted…He threw his college coaching staff under the bus…Scouts say his interviews went worse for him than his bad combine results…

  54. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    I really want WR Stephen Hill in the second round …

    6’4″ with a 39″ Vertical and a 4.36 x 40 …. WOW

    http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/stephen-hill?id=2533537

  55. By NorthwoodsVikesFan on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    I like all of Wobs’ observations EXCEPT #12. Simply choosing the BPA that early in the draft can have its repercussions. What if the BPA at that time is another QB? Or another LT, after we take Kalil at #3?

    Can’t remember who blogged it before (sorry) but he was correct – take the BPA for a particular need, not just the most talented player available. Hopefully Spielman will have his priority list all done up on Power Point.

  56. By sandiamond on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn i had the wrong guy. Tape looks good especially vs bama he gave kirkpatrick,barron and lester one heck of a fight

  57. By NorthwoodsVikesFan on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Something else that has been in the back of my mind over the past several years – any of you guys hear rumors or otherwise about teams secretly negotiating with potential draftees, promising them contracts and having them underperform at the combine in order to affect their draft position – so they drop in status and are available for that team later in the draft?

  58. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn…Try to find the tape at the combine where Hill makes that grab down the middle of the field…But the one where you see the whole play develop…Hill runs and gets underneath that ball and makes an awesome grab……I thought he had no chance of catching…I have only seen one other guy in the NFL run under a catch like that before…I thought that was totally un-catchable…And he once played for the Vikings also…Guess who that was ???…: )

  59. By NorthwoodsVikesFan on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    I saw a guy who had every chance in the world to catch a TD 2 years ago, but the defender breathed on his back, and he gave up on the play, letting the ball bounce a step away from him. He played for the Vikings….twice….Guess who that was??????

  60. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    OTK … i cant find it but it looked like this

  61. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    NVF … You mean when Moss got the Pass Interferance call and gave the team a first down?

    Dont believe media hype. Moss was interfered with and it was questionable if he could of caught the ball

  62. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Another nice catch and the QB he had looks awfull

  63. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    another great catch

  64. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Give me Hill and Kalil…And lets see what kind of magic Ponder can do with Harvin and Rudolf helping out !!!

  65. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Well Shawn…I guess it looks like we found the player in this years draft class that will come out of no where to claim a top 15 draft choice in the first round…Because Hill definitely has that “if factor” all teams are looking for in a player…That WOW !!!…Look what this kid can do !!!

  66. By sandiamond on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Neiko Thorpe SEC battled tested senior safety/cb from auburn late round prospect

    http://www.auburntigers.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/thorpe_neiko00.html

  67. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    I agree OTK … thats would be a good start to the draft to me and the other name I kind of like is DT Ta’amu in the 4th

  68. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    One thing in free agency I am keeping an eye on is whats happening with the D Brees contract negotiations…Because if Brees ends up getting franchised…C Nicks can become a free agent and avoid the tag…What if the Vikings let over paid Hutchingson go…7 million for this year would help land a different O -lineman to take his place…And maybe grab a young C Nicks long term to play along side a young bull dog named M Kalil !!!…Zygi…Get the Jet in for servicing…Might have to get it in the air week or so ???…

  69. By sandiamond on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    no clips on Thorpe but found this! lol

  70. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn…I have several DT’s I like…Poe was one I was hoping wouldn’t have gained so much attention at the combine as he did…So the Vikings could get him on the cheap…But very happy for Poe though…Still,Cox,Reyes,and and few others all would look good in porple…Remember if Poe goes higher..Some others have to drop…And some very good DT’s at that…

  71. By sandiamond on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Loaded OTK… Mayock even told em so. Our DT prayers have been answered

  72. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    sandiamond thats messed up … the player handled the situation very maturely though

  73. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    have you guys checked this out its a combine report and hill is ranked or graded like the 15th best WR …

    http://www.nfl.com/combine/participants

  74. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    I expect the Vikings to hit it big in the draft at 2 positions and get great value with those 2 picks… One being a DT…The other being a LB…Lots of awesome talent in those 2 positions…Especially nice to have had not only the combine to have seen players work out…But the advantage of being coaches at the senior bowl…

  75. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    looks like the DT position is full of names might get a better DT in the 3rd … Ta’amu sounds like a 3-4 nose and I was just thinking of Pat Williams ….

  76. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn…The scouts are to scared to show how bad they all missed on this kid…There isn’t a scout out there that will jump Hill from the 4th round where he was projected to go before the combine…All the way into the first round…I am no chicken though…This young man Hill will be projected to go in the top 15 picks in this springs draft…By the time the final mock drafts come out in late April…I am not waiting for other people or scouts to say it first…Hill has the “it factor”…; )

  77. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    2. The St. Louis Rams, who hold the #2 overall pick right now, WILL trade out of that spot, and I think Cleveland is in the best position (#4 overall) to move up and get him.

    Him, referring to RG3? Or Luck?

  78. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    What’s with pizza and Caribou coffee? Who is getting a payback?

  79. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Reyes is no slouch…I like B Thompson from Clemson also…Ya amu is rising on draft boards now also…He was a 3 or 4th round guy…Now I see him in some second round mock drafts…Just have to see where they all fall into the draft…Only way the Vikes don’t get a good DT the way I see it..Is if they don’t take a DT in the first 3 rounds…But I think they will..

  80. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    heres 4 mock drafts lined up side by side and 1 guy has Stephen Hill going 30th and the other 3 dont have him in the first round so he could be a value pick at 35

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/mock-drafts?module=HP11_cp

  81. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    I was just looking at the BThompson from Clemson and he sounds like a second round pick

  82. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    This fan is actually happy the Rams get their own little wind fall of picks…It means the Vikings will get their own wind fall drafting Kalil…What if the Vikings had to trade up to get Kalil…A major player of need for them ??…Now they just take him with one pick and run all the way to the bank !!!…Because Kalil ends up being a steal for them….

  83. By Derrick.G on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    We already have a running QB with Webb….why get another one. RG3 will most likely bust…….probably be hurt a lot (Vick, TJack,) T-Blow is the only other one who hasnt been hurt from running at the NFL level yet…

  84. By New Vike on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Kalil is an absolute steal at #3. I agree to the upside of Stephen Hill at 35. It is a need position and his ceiling is very high. However while I love the athletic ability, I am slightly worried about his production(i believe 40 career catches), and his ability to be plugged in early. I think the pick makes sense for the Vikes knowing that they arent contenders this year, and I believe it will take at least one year for Hill to develope. I know that Jimmy Graham only had 7 career catches at Miami but that dude is a freak. Kalil at 3, Hill at 35, Chase Minnifield in the 3rd and LaMichael James or Vontaze Burfict in the 4th sounds real good to me!

  85. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    One scenario could happen in the second round I haven’t heard anyone mock yet…How about the Vikings taking TE Coby Fleener with pick #35…This guy would pair up with Rudolf…Could help block on a new LT’s side or help out Loadholt along the line…(good blocker)…Good hands 6′ 6″ tall…240 lbs….Vikings have their own version of Gronkowski and Hernandez duo…Vikings have a new offensive coordinator that loves a 2 TE set…And Shiancoe is a free agent this season…

  86. By fkaJames on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Here’s what I would love to see for the Vikings’ draft: in the 1st round, just take Kalil and be happy. He’s worth the 3rd pick overall and will anchor the left side for a decade.

    In the 2nd round, I would love to see a big WR (the best of whoever is still on the board of Floyd – probably gone – Hill, Jeffery, Sanu, Wright). Failing that, I would also love to see Spielman pull a Belichick and trade our high 2nd for a lower 2nd and a 1st next year. It seems like almost every year, Belichick finds someone who falls in love with a guy in the 2nd round and gets them to trade their lower 2nd round pick plus next year’s 1st to move up. It would be awesome if the Vikings could do that and have 2 first round picks next year.

  87. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Just read a column that lets you know the BS is starting to flow early on what teams are bluffing they want…Rams only have until free agency to make a HUGE deal on the second pick…Team that wants that second pick will need to be shaking hands on that pick by March 13th…Or start bidding for free agent QB’s before they are all gone…Rams are letting out now they want Claiborn at corner….They are spreading rumor they might stand pat at 2 to land Claiborn…And keep him away from the Vikings and Browns….Oh yeah…Sure…True story here is…Rams take a chance on missing out on Kalil and Blackmon by trading to the number 6 spot in the draft…They want both Kalil and Blackmon with that 6 th pick…So they rumor Claiborn the player they covet…Rams only have 1 week to play games here…March 13th is coming up fast…

  88. By Parody on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    What I’d like to know is why isn’t anyone talking about Chris Owusu? He lit it up at the combine, scoring Eighth or better in EVERY drill they did (at least every one reported by NFL.com). Draft rankings currently have him late-4th all the way down to undrafted value. The only negative thing I can see about him is that he is recovering from concussions. NFL.Com also says that he “could struggle at the next level to be highly effective as he has only above-average speed and will have a tougher time taking it the distance against the pros.” But after he took the top 40-time in the Combine, I think this claim is unfounded. I think the Vikings would prove to get a huge steal in the draft if they took him with a 3rd-4th round pick. Here is how he compared to the other WRs in the combine:

    Chris Owusu:
    40 – 4.36 seconds (T-1st)
    Bench – 19 Reps (T-6th)
    Vertical – 40.5 inches (3rd)
    Broad Jump – 10ft 9in (2nd)
    3-Cone – 6.85 seconds (T-8th)
    20-yd shuttle – 4.11 seconds (T-6th)
    60-yd shuttle – 11.22 seconds (T-4th)

  89. By Parody on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    fkaJames – I’m not sure, but I think that Bellicheck actually trades away one of his late 1st round picks for another team’s 1st next year with their 2nd in the current year. That’s why the Patriots always seem to have two 1st round picks coming into the draft, but only end up taking one 1st round selection.

  90. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Parody….shhh !!…I have some players like Owusu I was hoping to stay under the radar a little until later portion of the draft…Listing stats like that will not help…Have some other players also I won’t be mentioning…: )

  91. By Parody on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    OTK – I assume you are saying that they have a March 13th deadline for making the trade because teams will need to decide whether to get thier starting QB in free agency or the draft by then? Trades happen the day of the draft all the time, so a team could be patient make their move at the last second, but I agree that it would be pertinent to set a March 13th deadline for any team that wants to ensure that they can follow through on their plans.

  92. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    With the new rookie wage scale…I see the hoody using ALL his draft picks this season…Players come cheaper in early rounds now days…I can see the Pats even moving up in the draft this year…Maybe finally cash in on their savings the past few years…

  93. By Parody on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    OTK – I’m sorry! I think I could have made a mistake…..ummm….yea, it’s very conceivable that Owusu’s buddies in Stanford’s Computer Engineering Department hacked the system and changed his numbers to make him look good. It’s so obvious now….there’s no way anyone could get in the top ten in every category. What was I thinking? This is obviously a farce! Any team would be crazy to draft him at all.

  94. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Parody…Right…They want the most picks they can get…More value to get from 5 teams bidding for the number 2 pick….Than waiting for draft day..And only having 2 teams left….What if the Redskins or Browns are out of the bidding war…That be the case the Rams might even take Kalil…He might have much better value to them than moving down…

  95. By SwanStLoP on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t understand why some people on here don’t want to take Matt Kalil @ #3? There should be no other choice. No trading back with Cincinnati for their two mid/late 1st rounders. We need to add talent to our O-line and Kalil will do that………As far as the 2nd round goes I’d expect a CB, WR, S, or MLB… best player available out of those 4 positions……… My personal 3-4th round player I hope we draft would be Sean Spence, MLB, Miami. Yea, he’s undersized, but the dude can fly and lay a hit. Wouldn’t it be nice to have an MLB that can actually do well in pass coverage? We need that in todays NFL. SKOL!!!

  96. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Parody…Remember..the wrong people could be watching our blogs..At any “Givens” moment…So I will be “Quick” to shoot down late round WR’s ideas that might play to the “Toon” of the Vikings needing a higher draft choice if mentioned on our blogs…If you get what I mean ???….; )

  97. By Parody on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    OTK – LOL. Yea, I think I get it. So do I “Owusu”m money for your advice?

    sorry, that was the best I could do….tough to work it into a word…

  98. By Spencer *5 Days* on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    The Patriots problem is that they draft guys with ‘Character’ over guys with Talent.

  99. By NorthwoodsVikesFan on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    I hate to be a downer, but do you REALLY think the talent scouts and GMs base their decisions on what is written in these blogs? If you do, you’ve probably got a bra tied to your head.

  100. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    SwanStlLop…I like a guy around the 3 or 4th round also…Vikes liked him a lot during the senior bowl…And he showed up well at the combine…I know I am going to spell his name wrong without looking it up…But here goes….LB McClellian…A very solid looking LB….Might even have a DE title with him…Think that guy would look good at ILB…

  101. By Parody on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer – Is that why the Patriots only went to 5-Super Bowls in the last decade? Yea, I definitely wouldn’t want a team that horrbile…

  102. By Parody on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Northwoods – I think your sarcasm meter needs new batteries.

  103. By Parody on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    …and I prefer to keep the bra tied around my neck….better for picking up the fragrances.

  104. By Spencer *5 Days* on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    After winning their last Superbowl they chose to go with character guys over talented guys. The old Patriots defense would have never been ranked 32nd in anything.

  105. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    All I know Northwoods…Is I blogged last year a lot before last years draft on the stribs a c c e s s vikings blog…I picked 3 players only I thought the Vikings would draft…BEFORE they were drafted…Ponder,Rudolf,and D Love were all on the team after the draft…Call it pure luck…Or whatever…It just happened…

  106. By Spencer *5 Days* on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Im so pumped, I cant wait for the draft! Kalil+Jenkins would be ahhmazing. But I doubt Jenkins slips to us. So please trade up Vikes, Gilmore and that Georgia Tech Wr are both frauds! Hopefully our scouts realize that because drafting them in the 2nd round would be a mistake !

  107. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    And no Northwoods…I don’t have a bra tied to the top of my head…There is no room…I have aluminum foil wrapped around the top of my head now…So aliens can’t read my mind…: )

  108. By SwanStLoP on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    OTKalil2012- Hmmm Not sure who you are talking about…..it must be a DE because I couldn’t find him on NFL.com combine results under LB’s. Another MLB I’ve grown to like is Mychal Kendricks, MLB, California. Deal with him is his height…. he’s like London Fletcher height. However, he won Pac12 Defensive Player of the year and just ran a 4.47. I guess he’s a very good tackler too. The reason I keep bringing up MLB’s is because we won’t (nor do I want them too) resign EJ, and I don’t trust only have Jasper Brinkley… we already know that Brinkley can’t cover. Might as well draft a young guy with upside in both areas. I’m crossing my fingers we can sign a free agent WR… I agree with Wobby that if the Vikings spend any cash it will be at the WR position.

  109. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    SwanStLop…Ahh…Mychal Kendricks is a nice pick…Like that young man…

  110. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    I think the Vikings might go after a CB though also in free agency….But only really see the Vikings getting one big name player to fulfill one major area of need on the team…Where that will be ????…No idea here…Not saying the Vikings won’t pick up several players in free agency…But I don’t expect more than one big franchise type player coming in…Just not enough money free or cap space to do more than that…Unless they really clean house and make cap space…And I don’t see the Vikings making that bold of a move…

  111. By NorthwoodsVikesFan on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    There is a plethora of football knowledge displayed on this blog, but if any of us were REALLY good at it, we’d be busy getting our pick strategy for the draft, rather than dreaming about it here.

    I love the back and forth with you guys, but call me pessimistic if you will, I don’t hold my breath waiting for Spielman to call and ask me what I would do.

    Oh, my sarcasm meter broke this morning after the F&9%4#ng snowplow closesd off my driveway for the 3rd time while I was shoveling.

  112. By NorthwoodsVikesFan on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    On ESPN site it was warned that there will be a major roster turnover this off-season, so there might be more cap space than you think.

  113. By NorthwoodsVikesFan on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    And Wobs said it in #8 above.

  114. By MO_shutdowncorner2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Fo rthe love of god sign Shank back on this team!! cant believe anyone would mention a te in the second round AGAIN

  115. By Spencer *5 Days* on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Resign Shank? Why? Va$hittte Shianco is easily the most overrated player on the team. The numbers he puts up arent good. And he ended the final 4 games with Zero catches.

  116. By SwanStLoP on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    @ NorthwoodsVikesFan – As far as I know none of us are saying we’re GM’s. We may just like to talk about our favorite team. If Spielman called me for advice we should all be very concerned…. wait, no we shouldn’t because I’m an expert at this stuff.

  117. By sandiamond on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    fine stats here why sign a rookie to sit on the bench and BURN a second round pick with all the talent we can acquire in the draft?no-brainer

    2011 MIN 16 14 36 409 11.4 37 3td — — — — — — —
    2010 MIN 16 9 47 530 11.3 33 2td — — — — — — —
    2009 MIN 16 13 56 566 10.1 27 11td — — — — — — —
    2008 MIN 16 15 42 596 14.2 40 7td

  118. By sandiamond on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    spence repost that pic of Jeffery

  119. By SwanStLoP on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    @ OTKalil2012 – I hear you, but I just have a very strong feeling the Vikings will not pay a premium for any other position than WR. If we cut Hutch that puts us $17million below the cap. That would be more than enough to sign V. Jax. and all the draft picks. Otherwise, I’d probably just look to draft a WR… and stay under the cap until we are going to be competing for the division. Chances are this year that will not be happening.

  120. By OTKalil2012 on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    SwanStLop…I see you like V Jax as your favorite WR to come in for the Vikings….I would love to see Colston come to us…Brees make a point all the time of letting everyone on the team catch a pass during the game…Throwing to 15 different receivers…And getting all that hype…Who cares…I say make money for your number one WR…And that is hands down Colston…Brees did throw Colstons way a little more than usual last season…But did not take full advantage of what his stud receiver could do if you took his collar off…And just let the beast run free…If the Vikings want to throw money at a nice quiet trouble free talented monster WR…I hope its Colston…

  121. By Wade on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Mike I think that one small school CB to watch in this draft that you didn’t mention is Josh Norman for costal Carolina. I know Mike Mayock was impressed by his performance at the East-West Shrine Game. I watched some film of this kid and he looks like a beast. If we could get him in the 3rd or 4th round I believe he would be a great value pick. What do you think about him and his possibility of being a viking?

  122. By Spencer *5 Days* on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    By sandiamond on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply
    Spence repost that pic of Jeffery
    —————————————————————————————————-

    http://www.frumpzilla.com/image_gallery/Alshon-Jeffrey-Is-Fat.jpg

  123. By Spencer *5 Days* on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Dam….Chris Cook is making me very nervous

    On his Twitter account

    “stressing all the way out”

    “rough morning mentally, wish I could predict the future”

    ” If that’s really the case, then idk…Dang”

    “Forget it! It’s in his hands, but mostly hers…Bye twitter, need to vent to a real person”

  124. By Spencer *5 Days* on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Its a shame that even his own fans are throwing him to wolves. Whatever happened to rallying behind a player? He may not have the millions of Vikings fan in support if this happened to Adrian Peterson. But he does have one fan that is wishing for the best..

  125. By sandiamond on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    something is not right with Alshon’s height. #6 melvin ingram is clearly taller than Jeffery(look at the photo). pretty sure I saw his height go by the nfl network tape at 6’1 5/8

    http://southcarolina.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=83825

  126. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, how noble of you.

  127. By Spencer *5 Days* on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    I agree sandiamond, something doesnt seem right. No way Melvin is only 6’2..

  128. By NovaScotiaVike on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Brings tears to my eyes.

  129. By NovaScotiaVike on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    I’m getting all “choked” up.

  130. By Spencer *5 Days* on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    And the jokes continue…I cant wait for Cook to come back on the field and “beat up” the opposing WR’s. The sounds of cheers by the Viking Faithful will cause wide receivers to “lose partial hearing.” And in the presser Cook will become all “choked” up after being awarded Defensive Comeback Player of the Year.

  131. By sandiamond on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    previously listed at 6’3 this should hurt his nfl stock a bit considering his leaping ability is not that good. No denying those long gorllia arms assist in catches tho…

  132. By NovaScotiaVike on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Only if the opposing WRs are women.

  133. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry, Spencer, I thought you were the joke teller.

  134. By sandiamond on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    spence what makes you such a fan of the nfl badboys? after watching the janoris jenkins interview I’m not convinced the kid has cleaned up his act(gut feeling). Do you care?

  135. By NovaScotiaVike on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    He’s a ‘ Gangsta”.

  136. By NovaScotiaVike on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Sandiamond…..You’re welcome to take my ex on that Aruba cruise…..if she falls overboard even the sharks won’t touch her.

  137. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    o hey look Shawn didnt start it yet again … hmm I know I’ll be blamed though

    O well luckily I can handle the non sense some of you throw

  138. By Spencer *5 Days* on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Its not that im a fan of badboys, its just that im a fan of talent. I’ll be the first to tell you that what Cook did was a b-tch move, however, on the field I honestly saw Cook turning into the next Nmadi. Whens the last time we had a true shutdown corner on this team?

    I know my sometimes non-stop talk about Cook is annoying, but its just that im happy that we finally have a corner that has the potential to be elite. And It would be very disappointing if he were taken away from us.

  139. By Parody on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Sandia – Do you really need to ask? Spence hates the goody-two-shoes players even if they are the best of the best as well. Case in point, Peterson and Allen. Both of them have been clean for their entire Vikings careers, and he only cares to call out their flaws. Guys like Vick, Cook, Roethlisberger etc. he falls in love with, even when they’re not producing.

  140. By NovaScotiaVike on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    He would love Hitler at tight end.

  141. By sandiamond on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    in 2 weeks I hope we have verdict on Cook one way or another. spence may go into hiding if it turns out neg!

  142. By sandiamond on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    * within 2 weeks

  143. By NovaScotiaVike on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    One can only hope !

  144. By Spencer *5 Days* on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Parody, I only picked out ONE flaw in Jared Allen and that was his ineffectiveness in the 4th Quarter.There was only ONE game where Allen played amazing during the 4th, and that was Week 3 vs the Lions. Other than that, this whole season I’ve been saying “is Jared Allen even playing?” He disappears far to often for a “Superstar.”

  145. By Spencer *5 Days* on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    If Cook is ruled guilty Im expecting this place to be in a very cheerful mood. So yes, I may disappear if the ruling doesnt go the way I hope so.

  146. By NovaScotiaVike on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe Allen will take him out hunting. Be sure to wear a nice brown leather coat….and don’t forget your horns !

  147. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Chris Cook never appeared …

  148. By Spencer *5 Days* on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Lol, I cant believe I was glad that T-Jack was getting the nod over Favre haha.

    http://blog.vikings.com/2010/12/13/tonights-inactives-121310/

  149. By Mike B. on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    I see the Vikings trying to restructure Hutch’s contract before deciding on what to do with him. I think he is still a good player and with a great LT will improve his play. The offensive line as a whole played poorly and didn’t gel. Vikings add some talent on the line (LT and RG) things will get better.

  150. By NovaScotiaVike on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    True story….a few years ago a guy in Ontario was out hunting, wearing a black and white striped jacket. He ended up getting shot. When the judge asked the accused why he would shoot at something like that, the guy replied..” Your Honor, I thought it was a zebra”.

  151. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, you need to think. I was about to explain some things and then I asked myself- WHY? This is is insanity.

  152. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Nova, I thought zebras were indigenous to Ontario. They congregate near the “horseshoe” area.

  153. By Mike B. on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    I am waiting to see of T-Jack makes it to be a starting QB this coming year. I still feel is a good back up, but not a starter. I am glad he did get a chance to start for the Seahawks.

  154. By NovaScotiaVike on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Just one more reason why I love fishing.

  155. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    I like TJack as a Seahawk.

  156. By NovaScotiaVike on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    He sure looks good in whatever their jersey color is……then again, he looks good to me in anything except purple.

  157. By NovaScotiaVike on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    What do you call the Seahawk’s uni color ? It kind of looks like what comes out of your car’s radiator when you drain it.

  158. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    LOL … IDK

  159. By Spencer *5 Days* on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    The only time I watched a Seahawks game last year was the Monday Night snooze-fest vs the Rams. And as usual T-Jack was still using that Jump-Pass. But anyways watching that game really got me thinking about something. Why does Marshawn Lynch break more tackles than Adrian Peterson? Does Lynch have more desire than AP?? I just dont get how a physical specimen like AP doesnt break tackles like Lynch does on a consistant basis.

  160. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    it might be called drained radiator

  161. By Spencer *5 Days* on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

  162. By Cedric Griffin is a better Minnesota Viking aka Shawn on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Unbelievable … Bash AP and praise Chris Cook. What a dou’che …

    Let me guess Titus. Spence wins again … and I should quit bringing all this up?

  163. By Spencer *5 Days* on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

  164. By NovaScotiaVike on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    The “Drained Radiators” would be a great name for a rock band.

  165. By Spencer *5 Days* on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn, Im NOT bashing AP. Lynch isnt even in the same class as AP. AP blows him out in pretty much every single category, except broken tackles. Thats where I think I give Lynch the SLIGHT, and I mean slight edge..

  166. By Spencer *5 Days* on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    AP, Lynch, and Steven Jackson are the most violent runners in the game.

  167. By NovaScotiaVike on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    So would “Leaking Transmission Fluid”.

  168. By KoN on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Simple, Marshawn Lynch is more of a straight ahead runner than AP, Lynch will run straight at a guy, while AP will try to juke him out and only lower his shoulder if he doesn’t have any other choice. Personally I prefer it that way, it has a better chance of resulting in big plays and keeps the RB from taking too many big hits.

  169. By Spencer *5 Days* on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Well im out of here. You guys are just way to sensitive for my liking.

    It was a pleasure being on these blogs, theres been good times and bad times, but Ive had enough of this nonsense. Truthfully, im going to miss you all. Except for Shawn. We just never saw eye on pretty much anything.

    Take care guys.
    March 5th. “Im a free man”- Chris Cook.

  170. By NovaScotiaVike on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, as you get older, hopefully you will realize that it is not a matter of others being over-sensitive, but rather your shocking disregard for other people’s feelings, and your “anything goes” att1tude toward your sports idols.

  171. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    BPA! Totally agree with Wobbs on that one

  172. By KoN on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    I don’t understand the concept of BPA; if we get them so that we can trade them, fine. However, if the BPAs in the 2nd and 3rd rounds are an RB, QB, or DE, we should pick them over pretty good players in our positions of need like WR, DB, and OL? It doesn’t make sense.

  173. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    BPA certainly is stupid. Do you put ten wheels on a car? Every part is necessary for true performance.

  174. By dumber on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Staying with the prophet Frazier who started last season “knowing what McNabb was capable of..” He wasted millions and stood par during the free agent frenzy doesn’t make sense either. I say this exceeded the Moss debacle.

  175. By dumber on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    BPA makes sense because of the injury perspective. Plus if you’re at the bottom like the Vikes, mid-season you can send say a QB to a team in the playoff hunt with a QB injury for proven player(s) and picks. top picks go bad like J. Russell, Keep dealing for more picks in a thick draft if a top highest value position pick is not available. Men in the pits get all ground up, Dion’t waste a high first on them.

  176. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Before putting a spare tire in the trunk, make sure all the pieces are in place so your car can function and perform in the first place.

  177. By VegasVike on Feb 29, 2012 | Reply

    Our new offense will gel with Kalil, I don’t care who is behind center. Make it the great Favre, still gotta protect his blindside.

  178. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

    NEW STADIUM DEAL TO BE ANNOUNCED THURSDAY AT 9AM
    Going up next to the dome –

    Here is the article from the Minneapolis Tribune:

    http://www.startribune.com/local/140984883.html

  179. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

    You heard it hear first from Titus.com

  180. By Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

    oops— past my bedtime– here first– yikes, not only did I get Spencer Syndrome, I have the Wob Flu.

  181. By Mike B. on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

    Wooo hoo New Stadium bill to be announced. The new stadium is close enough to the current site they have to play at TCF. There is the NFL.com article.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8274f008/article/report-deal-reached-on-bill-for-new-vikings-stadium-in-2016?module=HP11_headline_stack

    So you get the outdoor experience for a little while, but more important the vikings will be staying in MN.

  182. By Rocksalt on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

    Keep your fingers crossed…….Still needs majority of City Council approval

    A tentative deal has been reached to build a new Minnesota Vikings stadium near the Metrodome in downtown Minneapolis, according to a report by the Minneapolis Star Tribune.

    The tentative deal occurred Wednesday night. A news conference laying out the details is scheduled for 9 a.m. Thursday at the Capitol.

    A working group met behind closed doors Wednesday at the Capitol. News of a stadium deal initially was reported roughly two weeks ago, but disagreements persisted about issues such as how the parties would divide stadium revenue from non-NFL events. That deal was for a $975 million stadium to be built just east of the Metrodome. No monetary figures were confirmed from Wednesday’s meeting.

    The next step would be for a legislative bill to be introduced that contains basic terms of the stadium deal. The 2012 session is scheduled to adjourn in late April. Electronic pull tabs — a form of gambling similar to an electronic lottery ticket — in bars and restaurants have been discussed recently as a possible funding source.

    Even if a bill were to pass at the Capitol, the deal still may need approval by the Minneapolis City Council. Mayor R.T. Rybak is pushing the stadium deal. There’s a city charter requirement to hold a referendum on sports facilities that would cost the city more than $10 million, a vote Rybak would prefer to bypass. The legislature, however, could grant a waiver of that requirement. The NFL also would have to sign off on the stadium deal.

  183. By Parody on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

    Don’t get too excited about that announcement. It’s just the plan that they are going to put out for approval. It still needs to get a majority vote of approval from the state and from Minneapolis, and potentially from any referrendum if the politicians are too cowardly to think for themselves.

  184. By DRS on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

    Sounds like to me that they are taking small steps but really saying nothing new. All is tentative and nothing tangible, all talk and no real action, IMO.

  185. By DeerTracks on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

    DRS, Lets see what happens at the Capital 9AM today…

  186. By DeerTracks on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

    Be there, Mike W..

  187. By DRS on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.mercedsunstar.com/2012/03/01/2250877/deal-would-put-new-vikings-stadium.html

    “Council members cite a provision, approved by voters in 1997, that prohibits the city spending more than $10 million on a pro sports project unless it’s approved by a public vote. For the new plan to work, that provision will likely have to be overridden by the Legislature since a majority of council members had previously been on the record in support of it”

    ———————————————————————————————–

    Do you think the Legislature should override this provision so that the Vikings can get their new stadium?

  188. By DRS on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

    I do hope it will be good news with what happens today at the Capital at 9AM, and that they have come to agreement with all parties involved with this issue.

  189. By sandiamond on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/vikings/notes.htm?loc=interstitialskip

  190. By DRS on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

    We will see. Yes be there, Mike W. we would like to know your Views on this issue and what was put forth at the new conference.

  191. By sandiamond on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

    As for filling that need at left tackle, Spielman sounded confident that the Vikings can do so without using the No. 3 pick.

    “Oh yeah. Yep,” he said. “Yeah, we could (find) value if, for example, we moved down from the third overall pick. There’s going to be some value and there’s going to be left tackles in this draft that are going to be able to function and be solid starters in this league.”

  192. By Piggy™ on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

  193. By sandiamond on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

    Fan Poll

    With QBs Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III likely going 1-2 in the NFL Draft, how should the Vikings handle the No. 3 overall pick?
    Take USC OL Matt Kalil51%Take OSU WR Justin Blackmon17%Take LSU CB Morris Claiborne17%Take ‘Bama CB Dre Kirkpatrick1%Trade Down, Get More Picks / Players14%
    1320 Total Votes

    votes coming in at a brisk pace

  194. By Parody on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

    Yea, definitely take Kalil if he’s there, otherwise trade down and grab Reiff/Martin. Any way they slice it, we need to get one of these 3 guys to anchor our left side.

  195. By sandiamond on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

    agreed Parody! couple of months ago Jonathan Martin LT was all the talk. Nothing has changed no lost limbs so I believe he would make a fine minn viking

  196. By OTKalil2012 on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

    Here is why I want Kalil…Remember when McKinney first came into the league..He was protecting another young player in Culpepper…McKinney in his first few years did a good job..Even made it look easy…Culpepper would drop back and have ALL DAY to throw the ball to a receiver…And that WR set was Moss and Carter…Well McKinney started getting lazy…Culpepper starting getting all full of himself at QB…And then the love boat incident…What little talent Culpepper had dwindled…Culpepper always took way too long to throw a ball…And never could read a defense..McKinney decided after his buddy left the team…To really let himself go and not take his job all that seriously…Getting a bad attitude and coming into camps more often out of shape every season there after…Until the coaching staff turned on McKinney as they did with Culpepper with having more enough attitude from each…

    Ponder is not Culpepper…This is a smart young man with a desire to learn and get better…And SMART enough to know that’s what it will take to win…And keep winning…

    Kalil is a competitor…He comes from a family of football players…His brother is an “all pro” lineman….Kalil will not only be competitive on the field…But off the field within a football oriented family to be the best !!!…

    If Ponder gets anything even close to the protection from Kalil and the rest of the O-line…That Culpepper had from McKinney in their early years together…This team is going places in the future…

  197. By Rudso on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

    I will be disappointed if Mat Kalil is not wearing purple and horns next season. After watching the combine, it was Kalil………………… than every other OL. They basically used him on several drills to set an example on how the drill is suppose to be done for the other line men.

    Just like everyone else I was to impressed with Stephen Hill. I think the Vikings will get a shot at him with the #35 pick but I don’t think they take him here. The Vikings truly do draft Best Player Available in the 2nd round. With such a low pick in the 2nd round, I think the Viking take a player who was predicted to go in the 1st round but for what ever reason slipped down. I think Hill is NOT that guy. Now if he falls to us in the beginning of round 3, that would be a great value pick. 6’4 and a 4.3 40 yard, he would be an improvement from Rice.

    I would like to see the Vikings take a DB in the 2nd round. With the debt we have this year in DBs, we can take a player that would probably be a mid 1st rounder any other year due to the debt in that position this year. All I can remember this past year was horrible play from our Safeties and bad play from our CBs. I would like to see the Viking pick Mark Barron or the safety from ND.

  198. By sandiamond on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

    Fan Poll

    With QBs Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III likely going 1-2 in the NFL Draft, how should the Vikings handle the No. 3 overall pick?
    Take USC OL Matt Kalil43%Take OSU WR Justin Blackmon13%Take LSU CB Morris Claiborne18%Take ‘Bama CB Dre Kirkpatrick1%Trade Down, Get More Picks / Players24%
    2234 Total Votes

  199. By brandon on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

    vikes should try for wr colston and og carl nicks from n.o. saints
    draft kalil 3rd overall
    go for cortland finnegan from titans
    35 overall if there wr hill
    safety laron landry would be nice
    need a big run suffer maybe work a trade try for dt poe
    give more playing time to webb and e. griffen

  200. By brandon on Mar 1, 2012 | Reply

    convert e griffen to lb

  201. By Troy on Mar 2, 2012 | Reply

    1) Kalil. no other option.
    2) Best CORNER available. (I think these 2 have a good possiblity of being avail)
    -Jamell Fleming
    -Stephon Gilmore
    3) WR (check these guys out, I dont think they will be taken in the 2nd and would love to take them with the 3rd rounder)
    – Marvin Jones
    – Brian Quick
    4) DT or MLB
    5)BPA from here on out or take a chance on cliff harris

  202. By Troy on Mar 2, 2012 | Reply

    Jamell Fleming would be the ideal pick in round 2

  203. By Carl K on Mar 2, 2012 | Reply

    #3 – Matt Kalil — Excellent in run blocking and can move very well in pass protection. Matt plays hard and brings it on every play every game. Kalil will be a much needed upgrade to our oline.
    #35 – WR – The Vikings are in the right spot to land a quality WR that can stretch the field. Rueben Randle, Stephen Hill, Alshon Jeffery and Chris Givens are all good value here and the Vikings have 10 picks to move around and get the guy they covet.
    #65 – DB – Much like in round 2, the Vikings could be in position to move a little to get the guy they covet. The DB class is deep and the Vikings could pick a corner or safety. Many to choose from with good value here: Chase Minnifield, Trumaine Johnson, Brandon Boykin, Dwight Bently, Leonard Johnson, Jemell Fleming, Josh Robinson, George Iloka, Markelle Martin, Harrison Smith and Antonio Allen just to name a few. IMO, I think the Vikings should also sign a blue chip free agent DB so that the Viking can have some flexablity here to draft a top 50 DT or LB if they fall to the 3rd round. You can never have too many DBs.

    #95 – This is where I think the Vikings will draft best payer available. Someone will fall to the Vikings that can help the Oline or Dline. Maybe even a TE or Linebacker or RB that the Vikings weren’t expecting to be here. I am leaving the door open for the Vikings to move around through out this draft and focus on guys they covet. Quality over Quantity!

  204. By Carl K on Mar 2, 2012 | Reply

    Rudso – Stephen Hill is Ranked #32 by NflDraftscout.com
    The Vikings do NOT always draft best player available. They will move around and grab player they covet at any time.

    Ponder last year was not best player available when he was drafted #12. The Vikings moved up to get Toby Gerhart when he was Not the best player available nor a major need for the Viking. Tavaris Jackson and Ryan Cook where also examples of players that the Vikings coveted and reached to select early.

    Rudso – anything can happen with this draft! The good news is we have so many holes that we can’t go wrong with any pick. This year I think it will be hard for the Vikings to shock me with any move they make.

  205. By sandiamond on Mar 2, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings have a once in a lifetime Opportunity to rebuild the team through the draft. 10 picks, stellar junior class and an excellent draft position at #3 each time we come up on the board. With the 2013 draft looking bleak in talent and a better overall record outlook next year this is the time to make it happen. Absolutley no need to trade up throughout the draft and burn up these precious draft picks in 2012

  206. By Troy on Mar 2, 2012 | Reply

    @Carl There’s no way all of those db’s are there in round 3. Yes maybe a couple will be. But I think flemming, harrison smith, and trumaine johnson will all be second rounders. Also, the safety class is very weak and we should pick one before round 4 unless we take mark barron (if he dropped) or harrison smith in the second.

  207. By sandiamond on Mar 2, 2012 | Reply

    Brandon Brooks G (OH) lastest rage amongst the nfl scouts this week

    http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/02/unheralded-brooks-shines-at-miami-ohio-pro-day/

  208. By Rudso on Mar 2, 2012 | Reply

    Carl K, your right, the Vikings don’t always pick BPA but I have to disagree on Toby. I think Toby has great value and we saw a slice of it when AP went down. Last years 2nd round pick was totally a value pick in Rudolph. I wouldn’t mind if the Vikings saw someone at the bottom of the 1st round they really wanted and move up to get him.

    I’m just glad we have a 3rd round pick this year lol.

  209. By sandiamond on Mar 2, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings should make a play for one of the very talented Titan secondary players left on the market. Finnagan tagged
    S Micheal Griffin
    S Jordan Babineaux

  210. By Carl K on Mar 2, 2012 | Reply

    Troy – Fleming is ranked 122 over all by nfldraftscout . c o m and Fleming is mocked to be picked at 102 by walterfootb all . c o m

    Not everyone thinks Fleming has second round value.

    Yes, Harrison’s stock is up. But he doesn’t have many career INTs and I have seen reports on him that say he is limited in coverage and makes too many mistakes. This safety class is weak, so I am thinking safeties might fall.

    I think we can get a solid DB with pick #67.

  211. By Carl K on Mar 2, 2012 | Reply

    Sandia- I agree, we are in good position each round to land quality players with out moving around or getting cute. This draft is deep with CB, WR and DT.

    My heart is broken: Tyvon Branch, Brent Grimes and Dashon Goldson have all been given the franchise tag.

    I wouldn’t mind Michael Griffin or Jordan Babineaux.

    But because Cedric Griffin has not been cut yet, that leads me to believe he will be back and ready to move to safety.

    I also think Mistral Raymond will be ready to take over the starting FS job.

  212. By Carl K on Mar 2, 2012 | Reply

    Sandia- I agree, we are in good position each round to land quality players with out moving around or getting cute. This draft is deep with CB, WR and DT.

    My heart is broken: Tyvon Branch, Brent Grimes and Dashon Goldson have all been given the franchise tag.

    I wouldn’t mind Michael Griffin or Jordan Babineaux.

    But because Cedric Griffin has not been cut yet… that leads me to believe he will be back and ready to move to safety.

    I also think Mistral Raymond will be ready to take over the starting FS job.

  213. By Troy on Mar 2, 2012 | Reply

    @Carl K on nfl.com their combine numbers have fleming ranked as an 82/100 which is right behind stephon gilmore. I dont really go by walter football because the past years I’ve notcied they are very off compared to the actual draft. (tried following it last year)

    I don’t really like Harrison, I just read he might be the 2nd safety. I dont think they should draft a safety until round 4 or later.

    I think they should draft like this

    1) Kalil – no other choice should be mentioned here
    2) Stephon Gilmore, then Jamel Fleming
    3) Brian Quick, then Tommy Streeter
    Quick might be making his way into the 2nd round.. which dissapoints me..

  214. By Carl K on Mar 2, 2012 | Reply

    Troy- The Vikings got a good look at Fleming in the senior bowl. He played well 4 total tackles, a forced fumble and an INT. So you could be right about the Vikings selecting him at #35. But this would be my dream draft.

    Matt Kalil OT
    Stephen Hill WR or Rueben Randle maybe Alshon Jeffery or CB Gilmore
    Jamell Fleming CB or Chase Minnifield CB or WR Chis Givens or Brian Quick
    Alameda Taamu DT

  215. By sandiamond on Mar 2, 2012 | Reply

    Fan Poll

    With QBs Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III likely going 1-2 in the NFL Draft, how should the Vikings handle the No. 3 overall pick?
    Take USC OL Matt Kalil41%Take OSU WR Justin Blackmon13%Take LSU CB Morris Claiborne28%Take ‘Bama CB Dre Kirkpatrick1%Trade Down, Get More Picks / Players17%
    4218 Total Votes

    Votes still rolling in with a shift of Popularity for Morris Claiborne CB

  216. By sandiamond on Mar 2, 2012 | Reply

    Carl K that mock looks darn good, very close to my thinking also!

  217. By DrinkHeavyVikingFans on Mar 3, 2012 | Reply

    Here’s a not-so-news-flash for Vikings fans – it”s being now reported that the New Orleans Stains had a bounty program in place from 09-11 that all-star coach Sean Peyton and GM Loomis knew about and fully supported. Brett Favre and Kurt Warner were both targets. Anybody with a set of functional eyes (except the NFL’s referees of course) could see what was going on when you check the film on the saints games vs the Cardinals and Vikings. Just goes to show when you have friends like Sean P, who needs enemies, right Brett?

  218. By sandiamond on Mar 3, 2012 | Reply

    ‏ @AdamSchefter

    Open Details Titans will not place their franchise tag on cornerback Cortland Finnegan, allowing him to become an unrestricted free agent.

    Hope that is true and it would be so sweet to acquire one of the Titans secondary players

  219. By sandiamond on Mar 3, 2012 | Reply

  220. By Troy on Mar 3, 2012 | Reply

    I’m not real high on Stephen Hill yet, he’s tall and fast yes… I’m waiting to see what his pro day shows. route running and what not.

    I hope your saying you would take taamu and some of those guys in the 3rd?

    But, we are relatively close on what we would like to see them draft. I would just really like to see a CB (Gilmore or Fleming) in the 2nd

  221. By Frederick Jones on Mar 4, 2012 | Reply

    SELECT OFFENSIVE LINEMEN AND DEFENSIVE BACKS WITH ALL SEVEN PICKS OF THE 2012 DRAFT!!

  222. By KoN on Mar 17, 2012 | Reply

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