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Final Senior Bowl Thoughts

Posted by Mike Wobschall on January 31, 2012 – 7:21 am

Everyone from the Vikings staff has returned safe and sound from a week-long stay in Mobile, Alabama at this year’s Senior Bowl. All-in-all, it was a successful week for the Vikings. Head Coach Leslie Frazier and his staff had a good week with the North squad that culminated in a 23-13 victory. All the while, the Vikings scouting and personnel staffs were also on-hand to get a close look at some of the nation’s top senior football players.

We had coverage of the Senior Bowl all of last week, and if you missed it I recommend going back through the vikings.com Blog and through the Media Vault to check it out. Today I’ll provide a few final Senior Bowl thoughts before we move on from the 2012 Senior Bowl and begin focussing on the next phase of the offseason.

Here are a few final thoughts…

– The culture of college football in the Deep South is fun to experience and it’s quite a shift from what I’m accustomed to living here in Minnesota. I’d characterize Minnesota as a state that pays more attention to pro sports than to college sports. That is not the case in Mobile and in most places in that part of the country. They are significantly more passionate about their college sports. There were thousands of fans at the game on Saturday evening, with many of them tailgating before the game. Fans were at the North and South team hotels all week seeking autographs and opportunities to interact with the players. It was a festive, football-loving atmosphere.

– One of my favorite moments included arriving at stadium before the game on Saturday and walking from the bus to the locker room. The whole time, fans lined our path to the locker room and were hoping to grab just a peek at the players. The enthusiasm these fans have for the college game and for the players was awesome to experience. Credit also goes to the Senior Bowl staff for making Saturday evening feel like a regular season or even a postseason football game.

– I think it’s fair to say that the South was a more talented team, which makes the North’s victory all the more impressive. I didn’t watch any of the South’s practices live, but I will say that the North’s practices were well organized and the North’s performance on Saturday evening reflected that. I thought the Vikings coaching staff worked hard all week, took the job seriously, and ultimately took big-time advantage of their opportunity to be around these players all week to see how they’re wired and what makes them tick.

– While I was exposed to the North team for most of the week, I must say that I couldn’t have come away from the week more impressed with South DE Quinton Coples, who is a product of the University of North Carolina. This kid already has an NFL-looking body, measuring in at 6-6, 281 pounds, and he plays angry and hard on every snap. Maybe he’s not a candidate for the Vikings if they keep the 3rd overall pick, but if a scenario unfolds where the Vikings trade back to the middle of the 1st round or even in the later part of the Top 10, I would not be disappointed if Coples was the pick. He has the look of a real game-changer at the NFL level. We’ll have to wait and see how he tests out at the Combine, but right now I’m saying Coples will be one of the best players in this year’s draft class.

– The most impressive players all week for the North, in my view, were DE Cam Johnson from Virginia, WR Brian Quick from Appalachian State, LB Bobby Wagner from Utah State and QB Russell Wilson from Wisconsin. I also thought that kicker Carson Wiggs from Purdue was impressive all week and during the game.


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407 Responses to “Final Senior Bowl Thoughts”

  1. By Specer on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Michael Wobschall- Whats going on with Chris Cook? You are leaving us in the dark.

  2. By Spencer on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Wow. I forgot the N in my name haha.

  3. By Mike Wobschall on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    There isn’t an update on Chris Cook. We won’t know until you know. Stay tuned.

  4. By DeerTracks on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Mike, Didn’t watch the South practice?

    Does that mean the Vikings would only be interested in the North Squad players?

  5. By sandiamond on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    All about college football in the South. You want see jags, falcons,panthers, tampa, etc jerseys and caps very much. Support for these teams mainly comes from that urban area. glad you were able to exp the college atmosphere mike

  6. By GM on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    I agree with you Mike. When I looked at the north roster vs. the south roster, I thought the south was stacked with more talent.

  7. By Frederick Jones on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    I am beginning to think that MOST Vikings.com bloggers REALIZE HOW BADLY WE NEED to obtain great OLs, and DBs.

    About 70% agree with me completely.

    THERE WILL ALWAYS BE THOSE M I C H E L L E B A C H M A N ‘ S that will go against everyone else, and try to r o c k the boat ANYWAY THEY CAN!!!

    Be aware of those few, and steer the SHIP in our intended direction.

  8. By DeerTracks on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Yes, and keep it off the rocks….

    There are enough holes in it now…

  9. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/nfl_draft_trade_scenarios_minnesota_vikings/9645082

    The Vikings also have more holes to fill overall than the Rams, who are just one year removed from nearly making the playoffs. One could argue that the Vikings simply need the extra picks more than the Rams.

    Here are some potential trade scenarios:

    Browns get: No. 3 pick
    Vikings get: No. 4 pick, Browns 2nd-round pick

    Redskins get: No. 3 pick
    Vikings get: No. 6, Redskins 1st-round pick in 2013

    Dolphins get: No. 3 pick
    Vikings get: No. 9 pick, Dolphins 2nd-round pick, Dolphins 1st-round pick in 2013, Dolphins 3rd-round pick in 2013

  10. By GM on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Fred, while you are correct in that the Vikings need OL and DB’s, your Bachman analogy makes no sense. Bachman is on of the few public officials that is trying to steer the ship in the correct direction despite the intentions of the politically elite establishment. Similarly to the way you are trying to steer the great Viking ship in the correct direction despite the intentions of the VIkings front office.

  11. By TheRealDon™ on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Why is Fred’s name the only blogger in purple is Fred..Mike W..

  12. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/whats_ahead_for_vikings_d_back_chris_cook/9236044

    Frazier said at his season-ending press conference on Jan. 3. “At this point Chris is not on my radar. As we are going forward and having to sit down and discuss our personnel and what we have to get done, until I know conclusively what’s going to happen with Chris Cook, I can’t really factor him into what we’re trying to get accomplished

  13. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nfl/5849/chris-cook

    Vikings coach Leslie Frazier was noncommittal on the future of troubled CB Chris Cook in his season-ending press conference.

    Cook will go to trial in March on domestic assault charges by “strangulation and third-degree assault.” He ended the season on paid leave from the Vikings.

    It’s believed the team will wait to see what happens with Cook’s court case before allowing him to rejoin the organization. Cook has No. 1 cornerback-caliber talent, but Frazier conceded that he “can’t really factor (Cook) into what we’re trying to get accomplished.” Jan 4 – 1:42 PM

  14. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    http://fsnorth.com/01/09/12/Whats-ahead-for-Vikings-D-back-Chris-Coo/landing_mnvikings.html?blockID=642784

    “We’ll have to determine if Chris is going to be a part of what we do going forward,” Frazier said. “That decision still hasn’t been made. We have no idea what’s going to happen. Once there’s some clarity, a decision will be made.”

  15. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1046425-minnesota-vikings-stadium-update-nfl-helping-the-stadium-effort

    Some positive news came out of the most recent talks involving the Minnesota Vikings’ stadium issue, or issues for that matter.

    The National Football League has come out and said that no NFL franchise will be allowed to move to Los Angeles until next year at the very least.

  16. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    http://min.scout.com/2/1153970.html

    Bagley refused to speculate what would happen once the relocation deadline has passed. “We’re 100 percent focused on getting a stadium solution,” he said.

    Mondale said there’s no real date by which the team must notify their Metrodome landlords that they intend to play their next season there. “Frankly, it’s been the assumption that they will,” he said.

    But those who worry the most about the team leaving — Vikings fanatics — take no comfort in knowing they can at least count on a 2012 season in Minnesota.

    “What concerns me the most is that Zygi Wilf could say, ‘Fine, you’ve got me for another year — but after that we’re just done with it,’” said Cory Merrifield, who launched the grassroots lobbying

  17. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.rgj.com/usatoday/article/52797852

  18. By VegasVike on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    I lived in Alabama for about a year and the people there are college football crazy. I mean crazy, flags and stickers on every car and everybody wore either a Tide or Tiger shirt. Or camo… It was almost annoying

  19. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.vikings.com/news/article-1/Statement-From-The-Vikings-On-Stadium-Issue/b3e2c80c-ce5d-492e-ace3-5d4932a2600e

    The Vikings and the NFL have made significant commitments to this market — commitments that cannot be sustained at the Metrodome. In 2006, the Vikings were asked by Governor Pawlenty and State leaders to step back and allow the Twins and Gophers stadium issues to be resolved. Those State leaders committed to work with the team to resolve this issue. More than four years later, those commitments have not been honored.

  20. By TOM TITUS JONES on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Fred is the Supreme Blogger– that is why his name is in purple.

  21. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505245_162-57361840/gov-vikings-stadium-jeopardized-by-unknowns/

    (AP) ST. PAUL, Minn. — Gov. Mark Dayton said Wednesday that a legislative vote on a Minnesota Vikings stadium package could be in jeopardy unless lingering questions are answered about all three main potential sites.

    Dayton had been expected to state a clear site preference for the team’s long-sought replacement to the Metrodome, choosing between two possible locations in downtown Minneapolis and one in suburban Ramsey County. Instead, the Democratic governor said all three plans as currently proposed are inadequate.

  22. By Carl K on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Thanks Wobby for the Senior Bowl coverage.

  23. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.kare11.com/news/article/959379/396/Vikings-say-site-east-of-Metrodome-unworkable

    MINNEAPOLIS — The Vikings want to put an end to one stadium discussion. The team is now on record, emphatically, stating there is no fourth site option in Minneapolis.

  24. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.startribune.com/politics/statelocal/138327339.html

  25. By Derrick.G™ on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Is the purple name regarded to the other member posts or something?

  26. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Shakopee plan for Vikings unveiled to state

    Financing, transportation

    No state general fund dollars would be required to purchase the property because the land is so much cheaper than Arden Hills, Tabke said.

    The group is proposing the stadium be financed with user-based fees and taxes from a racino at Canterbury Park.

    A third of the cost would be financed by fans, including a $5 surcharge on Vikings tickets.

    Read more: Shakopee Valley News – UPDATE Proposed ADC site would be razed for Vikings stadium

  27. By Canadian Vikes Fan on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings sign LB Solomon Elimimian from the CFL. This guy is an absolute monster, a huge and very underrated pickup, I watched him in the CFL last year and he unanimously was named the hardest hitter in the league. He should get the starting job instead of Erin Henderson

  28. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    http://shakopeenews.com/view/full_story/17077472/article-UPDATE–Proposed-ADC-site-would-be-razed-for-Vikings-stadium

    On Wednesday afternoon, the group unveiled its plan to locate a 75,000-seat stadium on the 130-acre site kitty-corner from Valleyfair that contains the shelved ADC Telecommunications building.

    “We believe we have the best site that will be the easiest to develop for the Minnesota Vikings and is the cheapest cost and second-largest land area in acreage,” Tabke told the State Capitol press core.

    The plan is to demolish the the 490,000-square-foot former ADC Telecommunications building, which was never completed due to the bursting of the dot-com bubble. It has been mothballed since 2001.

    The building — double the size of the proposed retractable-roof stadium —would be sold for s-c-r-a-p.

  29. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Come on Vikings, Shakopee wants you and have come up with a plan to Finance a semi open air stadium! The price is right and the infrastructure is in place! With all the resistance for all the other sites why not go with the people who want you in their city! I would come from NM to see a Vikings home game played in a semi open air stadium. I would be willing to pay extra on my tickets to see a game in Shakopee. Please do something right and think twice about Shakopee!

  30. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Shakopee,Shakopee,Shakopee,Shakopee,Shakopee,Shakopee,Shakopee!!!!!!!!

  31. By Rogerthevikefan on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    OT Mike Adams showed he could be a very good LT not allowing DE Coples to do much of anything. DE/OLB Upshaw got a sack because of great coverage.

  32. By Rogerthevikefan on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    WR Brian Quick could develop into the best wr in this draft class.

  33. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.twincities.com/ci_19753799

    Our bid was very well received by the community and Vikings fans. We have everything Arden Hills has to offer, but we’re closer to fans in the fan base. For them, Shakopee is closer, and you still get all the amenities. There’s plenty of land for parking and for the Wilfs to develop if they want to put in a fan plaza and a hall of fame.

  34. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Everyone have a great day. Bye for now.

  35. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Just one more thing.

    http://shakopeenews.com/view/full_story/17077472/article-UPDATE–Proposed-ADC-site-would-be-razed-for-Vikings-stadium#

  36. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Have agreat day, and God bless you all.

  37. By GMan on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Minnesota Vikings…haha…what a joke!

  38. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Just read this, Sounds good to me.

    http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2012/01/shakopee_out_of.php

    Strong public opposition to kicking in $350 in Ramsey County funds for a $1.1 billion football cathedral in Arden Hills seems to be stymying the Vikings quest to build there. In recent days, the prospect of building a new stadium on the Metrodome site has gained momentum, but yesterday the Vikings quashed that by wondering publicly whether TCF Bank stadium, where the Vikes would play for a few years while construction takes places at the Dome, is suitable for the NFL. In addition to the fact that TCF Bank has less seats than the Vikings do season ticket holders, the team believes bringing the stadium up to big-league standards would cost an additional $67 million, bringing the total project cost up to as much as $962 million.

    So while the Shakopee mayor may be facing a fourth-and-long in his quest to bring the Vikes to the land of Ren Fest, it’s not like St. Paul or Minneapolis only have an extra-point kick between them and a new stadium. We’ll see whether Republican Rep. Michael Beard of Shakopee or Republican Senator Clair Robling of Jordan — both of whom plan to join Mayor Tabke during today’s news conference — can catch Shakopee’s Hail-Mary pass and haul it through the legislature and into the end zone.

  39. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Later.

  40. By sandiamond on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    George Paton, Vikings director of player personnel and the top assistant to General Manager Rick Spielman, is one of at least 10 candidates being considered for the Rams’ general manager position, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

    According to the paper, Paton interviewed for the position on Monday. He recently was added to the original list of nine candidates.

    Paton has been with the Vikings the past five seasons. Before that, he spent six seasons with the Dolphins, where he also worked alongside Spielman as director of pro personnel. The two also worked together in the Bears’ front office before that.

    Paton’s main focus with the Vikings is coordinating the scouting and personnel duties within the pro scouting departement and to help with the college scouting department as it prepares for the draft

  41. By sandiamond on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    NFL.com has their list of what they’ve deemed to be the 20 greatest plays of the 2011 NFL season, and the Vikings’ lone representative on the list is rookie tight end Kyle Rudolph, who makes the list because of this incredible touchdown catch against the Denver Broncos.

  42. By CaribooBill on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Thanks sandiamond – I had forgotten how great a play that was. I am hoping that Rudolph gets many more opportunities next year.

  43. By Sir Greasy Panda on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    If we are to get this ship on the right track the Vikings NEED to get a real WR from free agency. Build the interior through the draft with Matt Kalil or the other top OL if we trade down but picking skill positions is hard to do because it may not transfer to the pros. I WILL BE HIGHLY DISAPPOINTED IF WE GO THROUGH ANOTHER FREE AGENCY WITH NO SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT! Left over WRs from the CFL and the bears will not give us a deep threat and open up things for percy harvin. Moss, Carter and maybe Rice are rare talents that do not come around very often. Some of these guys already have proven themselves with other teams so we know what their skills are! Reggie Wayne, Marques Colston, Desean Jackson, Dwayne Bowe, Wes Welker, Vincent Jackson,Stevie Johnson, Robert Meachem, Mike Wallace, Mario Manningham, Brandon Lloyd. SIGN ONE OF THESE PLAYERS!!!

  44. By Spencer on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    I like Vincent Jackson the most.

  45. By Parody on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    TheRealDon and Derrick – There’s nothing special about Fred’s posts. He just did a little something extra with his username to make it stand out. If you mouse-over one of these names, you just might be able to figure it out….

  46. By Rogerthevikefan on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    DeSean Jackson has done nothing since his concussion last year. Vincent Jackson is awesome but the DUIs may put off the front office. Stevie Johnson is a no. 2 WR who has drop problems. Dwayne Bowe is the best FA wr the Vikings most try their best to get him.

  47. By Parody on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Wobschall – Why should the team be interested in a DE at all this year? We have the best in the league on the right side, and a quality starter on the left who just got a significant contract extension. We also spent our 4th-round picks the last 2-years on DEs who had the skills to be picked much earlier. Unless the team plans to mimic the Giants with 4-DE lines, it wouldn’t make any sense at all to grab one in the early rounds of this year’s draft….and even then I’d be remiss if we did with all the REAL holes on the team.

  48. By Parody on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Roger – I agree about Bowe. He would be the best option for this team’s need. But does our management have what it takes to go get him? I get the impression that they are overconfident in their drafting skills, so we’ll avoid free agency for the most part, outside of finding backups that no other team wants on their 53-man roster.

  49. By Parody on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    So when is Wobschall going to create his own mock draft? He seems to have spent plenty of time already evaluating the college talent, so I think it would be interesting to see how he breaks down the Vikings’ decisions going into draft day!

  50. By Spencer on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    I want my name to be Purple ;(

  51. By W on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    A sleeper that I like for the WR position in FA is Chaz Schilens from the Raiders. He has great size(6’4) and has good speed(4.39). Main concern is injuries, but I think it s worth the risk.

  52. By Spencer on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    And he has a 43in vertical. So hes a Great Redzone option.

  53. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    http://thevikingage.com/2012/01/27/2012-nfl-mock-draft-matt-kalil-to-the-vikings-cause-i-say-so/

  54. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    http://vikingsterritory.com/2012-mock-drafts/adams-mock-draft

  55. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    http://vikingsterritory.com/2012/freeagency/vikings-2012-free-agent-radar-cortland-finnegan

  56. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    http://vikingsterritory.com/2012/nfldraft2012/poll-of-the-week-should-the-vikings-trade-their-3rd-pick-2

  57. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Thank you for voting!

    Yes. The Vikings should move down and get more picks to try and fill the many holes on this team. 25% (12 votes)

    No. The Vikings should use their 3rd pick on a talent like Matt Kalil or Justin Blackmon. 14.58% (7 votes)

    Sure, if Matt Kalil is off the board. 54.17% (26 votes)

    Other. Explain with a comment. 6.25% (3 votes)

    Total Votes: 48

  58. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    http://vikingsterritory.com/2012-mock-drafts/bretts-vikings-mock-draft

  59. By skoldc on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Does anyone think the Vikings signing Fred Davis would be a possibility? Him and Rudolph could become the next Gronkowski-Hernandez.

  60. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    http://vikingsterritory.com/2012/opinion/the-vikings-may-have-found-a-dealer

    Us Vikings fans remember all too well how Childress had an affinity for bringing players to Minnesota that he was familiar with from his days in Philadelphia. I can’t help but wonder if, despite the fact that he has a lesser role now, the same might be true now that he is in Cleveland.

    Maybe fullback Naufahu Tahi or tight end Jeff Dugan will once again find employment under Childress. Perhaps the Browns will show some sudden interest in trading for a guy Childress vouches for, such as Anthony Herrera who Childress developed a close relationship with as Herrera went through the process of gaining citizenship.

  61. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Have to go now. Bye

  62. By Spencer on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Sign Chaz Schilens!

  63. By Carl K on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    I like the idea of drafting Russel Wilson late in the forth round with one of our compensatory picks. Move Joe Webb to WR. Webb is bigger and faster than Brian Quick, Rueben Randle, Juron Criner, Dwight Jones, Marvin McNutt or Jeff Fuller.

    With our 5th round pick I would draft WR Joe Adams.
    Can you imagIne trying to defend Joe Adams, Percy Harvin, Joe Webb, Kyle Rudolph and AP all at the same time.

  64. By TOM TITUS JONES on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    DRS– Isn’t Holmgren running the Browns’ Show? Childress will be on a short leash and work on what he does best–calling and running offensive plays– anything else, like bringing in McNabb, probably won’t get very far.

  65. By Shawn on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Chilly wasnt a playcaller … as the Eagles OC Andy Reid called the plays. He called the plays for the Vikings 1 year.

  66. By TOM TITUS JONES on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    I never said Chilly ran the plays in Philly. But good point.

  67. By TOM TITUS JONES on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Browns will be in the Superbowl in 3 years.

  68. By Spencer on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    I always believed Chilly was a good coach. He got fired because he was blamed for everything during that 2010 season even though Favre deserved a majority of the blame.

  69. By TheRealDon™ on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Our Oline and Secondary is why Chilly got fired..Plus Chilly his self

  70. By sandiamond on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    pats fall guy. building a secondary fron the waiver wire….to in the playoffs

    http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/01/31/ventrones-the-suburban-poet-dont-you-know-it/?module=HP11_hot_topics

  71. By Spencer on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    By TheRealDon™ on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply
    Our Oline and Secondary is why Chilly got fired..Plus Chilly his self
    ____________________________________________________________

    2010 Defense
    Allowed 348 Points(21.8PPG) 18th.
    Passing Yards given up-210.4Ppg(10th)
    2010 Offense
    Scored 281Points(17.6ppg)29th

    2011 Defense
    Allowed 449 Points(28.1PPG) 31st
    Passing Yards given up-251.2Ppg(26th)
    2011 offense
    Scored 340 Points(21.2ppg)19th

    We lost because of Favre. The Defense did their part.

  72. By Spencer on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Which is why I have always said the secondary is not that bad when healthy. They were ranked 10th last year despite Cedric Griffin tearing his ACL and Chris Cook being a scrub.

  73. By Spencer on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    And what was even more impressive was the fact the corners held their own despite Jared Allen and company providing absolutely zero pressure.

  74. By DRS on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    http://minnesporta.com/2012/01/25/vikings-off-season-outlook-defense-secondary/#more-2849

    Top 10 NFL Draft Options: CORNER- Morris Claiborne (LSU), Dre Kirkpatrick (BAMA), Alfonzo Dennard (NEB), Janoris Jenkins (UNA), Chase Minnifield (UVA), Desmond Trufant (WASH), Stephon Gilmore (SC), Jayron Hosley (VT), Casey Hayward (VANDY), Xavier Rhodes (FSU) SAFETY- Mark Barron (BAMA), Robert Lester (BAMA), Bacarri Rambo (UGA), Markelle Martin (OK ST), Winston Guy Jr. (UK), Trumaine Johnson (MON), Brandon Taylor (LSU), Trenton Robinson (MSU), Neiko Thorpe (AUB), Delano Howell (STAN)

  75. By TOM TITUS JONES on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, I completely agree with you– Chilly is an A+ coach. Mob rule sent him packing, along with the mistake of bringing drama king back for a second year. Chilly did make the mistake of treating that drama king like a queen.

  76. By Spencer on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Preach Titus, PREACH!

  77. By TOM TITUS JONES on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Chilly took a mediocre team and improved it year after year– very, very few coaches turn a franchise around that fast– Harboaugh did it in San Fran, albeit a little faster (which is almost unheard of) and everyone sings his praises but hates Chilly. Mob rule– scary thing– the majority rarely knows what is going on. I choose the minority report.

  78. By TOM TITUS JONES on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Holmgren is no dummie– he has been to several Superbowls as a coach– at least three– and I am sure he had to approve of Chilly’s hiring. Chilly is a top grade coach.

  79. By TheRealDon™ on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    That was nice and all Spencer but for a long as I could remember our secondary has been horrible healthy and all..Who’s the last shut down corner we had I can’t name one..Farve took a beating his last year terrible Oline play

  80. By Spencer on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    In 2010 they were not horrible. And we do have a shutdown corner on the roster…Chris Cook.

  81. By TheRealDon™ on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    oh and the yards giving up don’t mean allot to me..You can give up allot of yards and no TD’s..Farve couldn’t play defense and QB so don’t bash him like it was all on Farve

  82. By TheRealDon™ on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    I’m a fan of Chris Cook but will he be here next year..Hmm I really can’t say I hope so..

  83. By Spencer on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Saints:Week 1:(Loss: 14 – 9 ) Favre throws 1int
    Dolphins:Week 2:(Loss: 14 – 10 ) Favre throws 3ints and fumbles in endzone
    Jets:Week 5:(Loss: 29 – 20 ) Favre throws game losing int
    Packers:Week 7:(Loss: 28 – 24 ) Favre throws 3ints
    Patriots:Week 8:(Loss: 28 – 18) Favre throws 1int

    And by then, the season was over.

  84. By TheRealDon™ on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Look at the line he was playing behind..He was trying to make plays always under pressure..

  85. By Mike B. on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    What are you guys thinking Chilly was an awful head coach. I don’t wish him ill on his new job, but glad we don’t have him.

  86. By Shawn on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    TRD and Mike B … exactly

  87. By Mike B. on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Chris Cook is gone as far as I can see once his legal issues are finalized. I think the Vikings are taking the High Ground keeping him signed until it is all settled. There may even be legal issues too that keep him on the team.

  88. By Mike B. on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    @Mike W nice piece on Keys to the Offseason. I liked it.

  89. By Shawn on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B .. I hope so. I heard a rumor that if the vikings cut him too early they get nothing in return but if they hold onto him till a certain time they could get a 4th round compesatory pick for him. I dont remember where I saw that or heard that it might have been sandiamond, cant remember.

  90. By Mike B. on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    He was improving this season a lot but really no excuse on his legal issues.

  91. By Mike B. on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    I am hoping we get a good player or value for our 3rd pick. I feel though that the Rams will trade down so RG3 can go to another team.

  92. By Spencer on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Hopefully this is true too..

    http://www.fantasysp.com/player/nfl/Cedric_Griffin/2008635/vikings-rcb-cedric-griffin-cleared-out-his-locker-thoroughly

  93. By Mike B. on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    With chilly taking OC duties we may see some players going to the browns.

  94. By TOM TITUS JONES on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    I doubt it– Holmgren is the sheriff there.

  95. By TOM TITUS JONES on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    I like the Shakopee proposal– but I am not a big fan of that area. It seems the best choice, though.

  96. By Spencer on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    I think its time to end the Chris Cook talk. Hes simply not going to be on this roster next year and maybe for years to come. Even though it was short-time, you provided me with jaw-dropping plays. Your ability to neutralize the opposing teams best WR had me in awe. Sure there were some rocky times during your rookie year, but unlike others I wasn’t calling for your head and labeling you as bust. The next year you bounced back and was playing like an all-star. It was a pleasure having you on the Minnesota Vikings. I wish you the best for whatever the future has to offer. Take care.

  97. By sandiamond on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    1 CB A. Winfield 2____

    1 CB C. Griffin 2____

    1 Nickel CB A. Allen
    2 Nickel CB/KR M. Sherels

    1 SS Jamarca Sanford 2____

    1 FS Mistral Raymond 2____

    PS Eric Frampton
    PS Brandon Burton

    march 15th in-depth chart. Idea here for an overhaul. players not listed not offered contract. 4 DB’s Needed

  98. By Spencer on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    That secondary is awful.

  99. By Frederick Jones on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    @Titus,

    Thank you for the compliment.

    You have yet to comment on the Tom Jones part of your name.
    (It’s also possible I may have missed it.)

    Why are you now Tom Titus Jones?

  100. By Frederick Jones on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    @Spencer, Spence,,,,

    Are you guys the same person?

  101. By Frederick Jones on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    I question whether a player can “play angry on every snap.”

    It does look good in print though.

  102. By TOM TITUS JONES on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Just having fun Freddie. I may have a new name next week.

  103. By Spencer on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Yea Fred…I just felt like adding the ‘r’ to my name.

  104. By Frederick Jones on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    It is interesting to hear the radio talk about who is the best QB of all time. To attribute it to who wins the most super bowls is just silly.

    What ever happened to those magazines that rated Qbs by giving them categories like the following:

    Arm strength
    Quick Release
    Short Pass Accuracy
    Medium Pass Accuracy
    Long Pass Accuracy
    Vision
    Scramble
    Running Ability
    Confidence
    Audible

    YOU could add or subtract to this list.

  105. By Frederick Jones on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    @Titus and Spence,

    I am all for that.

  106. By TOM TITUS JONES on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Freddie, I pick the Giants by 10.

  107. By Spencer on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Completely agree Fred. Theyre trynna say Eli will be better than Peyton if he wins another ring. Peyton will go down as the best QB ever. Eli isnt even the 2nd best QB in the NFC.

  108. By sandiamond on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Spence you missed the point about bringing in 4 new players in the defensive backfield via free agency&draft to compete for a starting slot (clean house)

  109. By Frederick Jones on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Like any other position, it would be hard to pick the best. The best Qbs of all time:

    1940s Sid Luckman
    1950s Otto Graham
    1960s John Unitas
    1970s Terry Bradshaw
    1980s Dan Marino
    NOW these are not my personal favorites, just who I think was the best. I would have a very hard time picking the 1990s, or 2000s QB because I did not have a tv at home for ten years during that period.

  110. By Spencer on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Tom Brady 27-20

  111. By Spencer on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    How do you not have a TV for 10yrs?

  112. By Frederick Jones on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    @Jonesy…Titus type:

    I picked the Giants at the start of the playoffs. They may be the best team NOW.
    Just like the Packers last year.

    That brings up another point, how could the best team win in the super bowl? Now it’s just who is the hot team of the moment.

  113. By Frederick Jones on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    @Spence(r)

    Going without TV was my choice for reasons other than just financial. You and I know it is almost always a complete waste of time!!!

    I do regret not seeing the 15-1 Vikings season :(

    I saw the Falcons in the playoff game, and some isolated minutes elsewhere during the season.

  114. By Mike B. on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    QBs get all the glory and OL get all the mud and blood.

  115. By Spencer on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    QB’s deserve the praise. If you put an average Qb behind a great line the Qb will still be average. A Great QB can make an average line appear above average though.

  116. By Spencer on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Fred- Who do you think we should draft?

  117. By Viking-ology on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    I like The Shakopee site for a new stadium. As far as FA WR’s I have read Bowe on a few posts, but I am not as high on him as some of you. My choice would be Brandon Lloyd, I think he would be a great addition the the Vikings offense.

  118. By Viking-ology on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings win the SB! (SeniorBowl)I just had to post that. OK I can move on…

  119. By Viking-ology on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Speaking of the Superbowl, it seems as if the winner will be decided in overtime…

  120. By TOM TITUS JONES on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Fred Jones, brother with the same last name, I made a post about the very essence of what you said– Giants were 9-7, looked at mid-season to be out of any playoff hunt, but just went on the road and knocked off the two best teams in the NFC. That is why when everyone is crying and booing when the Vikes have a so-so start , I wish they would zip it and encourage the team. Building chemistry and gaining momentum happens in the second half of the season, when it matters the most.

  121. By PurpleNation on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Can someone get those two annoying bots: Spencer and Tom, to STFU?! NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU TWO THINK OR GOT TO SAY!!!

  122. By PurpleNation on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    If only Mike W. had the ability to block all the tards!

  123. By PurpleNation on Jan 31, 2012 | Reply

    Or I could just get someone to hack this site and block all the idiot rants from spencer and all his R-E-T-A-R-Ded buddies

  124. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Nation- you are entitled to your opinions. How does that make you feel?

  125. By Nicholas on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Has anyone watched the keys to the 2012 season video yet?? I REALLY like what Paul Allen has to say about the direction that we are headed. A lot of what we have been pounding the pavement about is being repeated by Paul Allen: We need to fortify the Offensive Line.

    He went on to say that it is inexcusable that we had such a high number of sacks, yet no interceptions…and that must change at whatever cost whether it be personnel, players, etc.

    Good stuff, Paul Allen states it like it is…and I HOPE that his words are reflecting what the Vikings organization is preaching as well.

    Goodnight!

    -Nick

  126. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings-Browns in the Superbowl– 2 years.

  127. By Nicholas on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Childress Vs. Frazier lol

  128. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    PurpleNation- Did I strike a nerve?

  129. By sandiamond on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/01/29/vikings-hint-at-needing-rb-insurance

  130. By sandiamond on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    latest 2012 vikings mock draft :

    #3 Morris Caliborne CB lsu
    #35 Andrew Datko LT fla state
    #67 Reuben Randle WR lsu
    #98 Marcus Fortson DT miami
    #130 LaMicheal James RB/PR oregon
    #162 Kevious Watkins RG south carolina
    #194 Danny Trevathan ROLB kentucky
    #207 Kevin Koger TE michigan

  131. By Gary on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Vkies trade #3 to WASH for: #6, #38, #113 (extra 4th rounder WASH gets from OAK) AND WASH eliminates the pick due to them from MN for McNabb. RESULT = Vikes get an extra 2nd round pick, an extra 4th round pick and retain their 6th round pick INSTEAD of giving it to WASH for McNabb.

  132. By 61vikings on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    @ Fred Jones
    WOW, no TV for ten years!!! I would have been going to the sports bars!!
    I’ll take Montana over Marino based on championships!!! ’90’s is a big question mark, but I would say Elway/Favre era and the 2000’s were all about Brady/Manning!!! I like your choices on the other decades though!!!

  133. By sandiamond on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    agree with Wobs about L. James. Must take player on the board for the 5th round and also 4th round providing we have an extra comp pick in the fourth or a low impact trade up. Otherwise look at I. Pead, C. Rainey, etc

  134. By 61vikings on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    We need an identity to this team and this franchise!! Let’s get this stadium issue wrapped up once and for all!! Build it outside, because I would rather be with the Bears and Packers, than the Lions who play inside!! It seems that ever since the Vikes moved outside, they became a very soft team!! We always talk about the Purple People Eaters, a team that definately had an identity!! A great OL and a great DL!! Bud Grant knew the importance of drafting OL and DL players, as he did in all of his drafts, along with Jim Finks (GM), built great teams by drafting the core of the team with OL and DL!! They had the luxury of 14 rounds back then, now you have only 7 rounds and every pick counts!! Frazier and Spielman need to get on the same page and build there champion-caliber teams of the future!!! Draft OL,DL and DB’s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  135. By 61vikings on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Meant to say in my previous post, It seems that ever since the Vikes moved inside, they became a very soft team!!!!

  136. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    great breakdown of Viking offense

    http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/2011_Vikings_Review_Percy_Harvin_earns_highest_grade_on_offense013112?t=2

  137. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Charlie Johnson … Allowed eight sacks, including one that killed the final drive in the opener. Gave up nine additional hits and 49 total QB pressures.

    from espn1500

  138. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Loadholt … Remained a liability in pass protection, allowing nine sacks and 42 total QB pressures.

    from espn1500

  139. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Herrera … in 12 games, Surrendered the three sacks and 23 total QB pressures

    from espn1500

  140. By Spence on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    The o-line opened holes for Toby though.

  141. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    LT Kalil ? sounds good to me

    http://thevikingage.com/2012/02/01/matt-kalil-is-destined-to-be-a-viking/#more-7999

  142. By Mike B. on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    @61vikings It’s been purposed that any public funded stadium for the Vikings will be domed, so it can be used for multipurposes. To sit here and wish for an open air stadium doesn’t help the issue and adds to the noise. I understand that some would like an open air facility, but that’s not going to happen. Let’s just get a good deal done and get the thing built.

  143. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    I think Jim Kelly never got the glory he deserved– he was one of the best, but unfortunately, taking your team to the Superbowl four years in a row does not mean much when you lose each one. But he was so very good.

  144. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, I think Purplenation, deep down, is our fan.

  145. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Purplenation needs us to help him navigate the football world.

  146. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    That Bills team had endless talent … Bruce Smith, Thurman Thomas, Andre Reed, Big OL, Good LBs (Talley and Bennet) … seems to me they had a decent secondary with a hard hitting safety but I cant remember their names.

  147. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn, I loved that team– their only chance was the first one against the Giants when Norwood missed the kick.

  148. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Kelly was a lot like Favre– hard hitting, tight spirals, and he also had the interceptions–

  149. By Matthias on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    This guy has speed!

  150. By Matthias on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    It would be nice to have him as a #3 back.

  151. By Viking33 on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    @ DRS – Thansk for the Stadium Updates!!

  152. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    I think our #3 back needs to be a blocking back someone like chester taylor … we have 2 #1 backs … but Chester was a good blocking back and I think we’ve missed him the last 2 seasons.

    Anything to give Ponder time to throw … thats what the offense needs

  153. By Viking33 on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    That last Mock Draft update posted by Sandiamond hurts my head. I don’t think our secondary is so, so horrible either, especially if Cook comes back and reforms, but I do not think it is so good where we wouldn’t draft a DB somewhere.

    I do not condone the Cook situation – but I do condone second chances. If he gets one I hope he makes the most of it.

  154. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Jeff Demps is doing track full time.

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/sec/story/2012-01-12/florida-jeff-demps-olympics-track-nfl/52519994/1

  155. By Viking33 on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    @ Shawn – I agree Blocking is the Key to the Future. If you want a Offense that can be consistant it starts with good Blocking!!

  156. By DRS on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.twincities.com/columnists/ci_19852969

    Lawmakers locked in electronic pull-tabs Monday night as the funding source they’ll propose for a new Minnesota Vikings stadium, but they said they’re still awaiting more information from Minneapolis and Ramsey County officials before settling on a site.

  157. By DRS on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1044454-minnesota-vikings-7-top-players-to-target-in-free-agency-and-the-draft#/articles/1046279-minnesota-vikings-5-top-free-agents-who-fit-the-system/page/2

    Finnegan may have a bit of a mean streak in him, but this s-c-r-a-p-p-y corner has been one of the league’s best for years and is often overlooked for the reason that he likes to get under the skin of his opponent.

  158. By DRS on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.nfl.com/player/cortlandfinnegan/2506978/profile

    Cortland Finnegan #31 CB
    Tennessee Titans | Official Team Site
    Height: 5-10 Weight: 188 Age: 27
    Born: 2/2/1984 Fayetteville , NC
    College: Samford
    Experience: 6th season
    High School: Milton HS [FL]

  159. By Viking33 on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Cortland Finnegan is a S-c-r-a-p-p-y Player – He doesn’t back down, at least not that I have ever seen.

  160. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    DRS … thats an amazing list of free agents and draftees. I have been thinking the Vikings should go after Safety and WR in FA and LT and CB in the draft

    LT and CB are deep enough in this draft that if we take LT in the first round there will be a good corner second round also vise versa. So lets say they get …

    LT- Kalil then you can move OL CJohnson (people say hed be a good guard)
    RG- CJohnson

    CB- Chase Minniefield

    then free agency grab

    WR- Vincent Jackson (contract will be big but not the biggest for FA WR)
    SS- Tyvon Branch (would be a good sized contract still safeties are not huge contracts)

    but the MLB talk has got me thinking recently might need to go top dollar for the top available FA

  161. By DRS on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/741659-power-ranking-the-top-50-nfl-free-agents-of-2012#/articles/741659-power-ranking-the-top-50-nfl-free-agents-of-2012/page/2

    Nelson played well in 2010, with six starts and two interceptions. Another strong showing in 2011 will lead Nelson’s name to the top of the free agency big board under the “safety” category.

  162. By DRS on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    later everyone.

  163. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    WOW … that Curtis Lofton guy looks good on paper and only 25yo

    http://www.nfl.com/player/curtislofton/774/profile

  164. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    DRS … the top 50 FA list is outdated a bunch of those guys have already signed contracts

    heres an updated list

    http://nfltraderumors.co/2012-nfl-free-agents/

  165. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    My only problem with Percy at RB is that whenever they put him back there he shows absolutely No patience. It seems like on every carry he just runs as hard as he can up the middle without letting the linemen get on their guys. But other than that Percy was Great last year.

  166. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn- Was there a defensive ratings from that site shawn?

  167. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    what site?

  168. By Nicholas on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    @ Shawn, I like that article about Matt Kalil being destined to be a Viking.

    Do you guys think the Rams will likely jump @ Blackmon or Claiborne instead of tradeing down?

    I really like both trade scenarios with the Redskins and Browns. I hope we get to trade down and STILL land Kalil. That would be AMAZING!

  169. By Frederick Jones on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    61Vikings,

    It was interesting to see your picks as QBs or the 1990s and 2000s.

    1990s Favre/Elway
    2000s Manning/Brady

  170. By Mark B on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    My take from the Senior Bowl:

    1. The Vikes coaching staff had the team ready to play and they seemed fired up. Not sure how much that can be attributed to the coaches as the players had quite the opportunity to impress NFL coaches and scouts.

    2. The players expected to make a splash pretty much did – Adams had a good game, considering he lined up agains Couples most of the game.

    3. My dark horse late round pick for the Vikes – Bradie Ewing RB Wisconsin. At 6’0″, 245 lbs has the size to fill some pretty large shoes recently vacated by a certain TE. Best part? He played in Wisconsin, as a FB. In that system if a FB can’t block, guess what – he don’t play!

    At this point in the off-season it’s a little early to be locking into mock drafts, but:

    – While Claibourne is the sexy pick at CB, I think I like Kirkpatrick better.

    – Kalil is the best LT to come out in quite a while, but barring a trade by St Louis, I don’t see him making it to the Vikes at 3. There are a couple attractive options to be had later in the draft – Reiff and Adams among them.

    – The more I see of him, the more I like Blackmon.

    The best scenario I can see is the Vikes working a deal with Cleveland (maybe we can talk Chilly and Holmgren into taking Dugan and/or Herrera off our hands) to obtain the 4th pick and either the 1st round from Atlanta this year or next years 1st round. The Browns could then take RG3, and the Vikes only slide 1 spot. Kalil or – my choice – Blackmon will still be there and we gain another pick.

    Just my $0.02

  171. By Frederick Jones on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    This may bore some of you, but big business BIG shots are often no smarter than the rest of us.

    For example today I found out that the telephone number put on the back of Discover credit cards is bogus. I talked to one of the telemarketers, and she agreed with me.

    1-800-Discover is bogus because Discover is an 8 letter word, telephone numbers are 7 digits. That is a multi-millionaire company talking.

    NEVER FEEL THAT WE CANNOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON HERE! together together together we can make things happen. That’s how Childress got fired, That’s how the Vikings hired a GM, That’s partly why the team has had two losing seasons in a row.

    Titus said it well when he posted that the 9-7 Giants FANS did not give up on their team when they started out slow. NEITHER SHOULD WE VIKING FANS…….and I am as guilty as anyone.

  172. By Frederick Jones on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Spence,

    I am not into watching college football at all! So I am very unqualified to
    pick someone to draft.

    But it’s a tossup on what we NEED most DBs or OLs.
    We neeeeeed both so bad I don’t know how SPIELMAN
    can think of anything else!!!

  173. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Just read an article with all sorts of stats telling us that Brady is the best QB ever.

  174. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Anyone try one of those Sodastream machines?

  175. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    By Frederick Jones on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    “Titus said it well when he posted that the 9-7 Giants FANS did not give up on their team when they started out slow.”

    The Giants fan DID quit on their team….

    http://boards.giants.com/forums/thread/2356089.aspx

  176. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Did I say that Fred? I don’t think so– they were even calling for the coach to be fired. I have to scroll up and see what I actually wrote.

  177. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Oh, I mean Spencer

  178. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Nope, Fred and Spencer you read something that I did NOT say. It is not in my post. I am well aware that the Giants fans were angry. They wanted Coughlin fired.

  179. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    I dont know Titus, I just copied and pasted what Fred said assuming he was correct about what you said.

  180. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Here is my original post where you can see I said nothing about the Giants’ fans attitude:

    Fred Jones, brother with the same last name, I made a post about the very essence of what you said– Giants were 9-7, looked at mid-season to be out of any playoff hunt, but just went on the road and knocked off the two best teams in the NFC. That is why when everyone is crying and booing when the Vikes have a so-so start , I wish they would zip it and encourage the team. Building chemistry and gaining momentum happens in the second half of the season, when it matters the most.

  181. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Blackmon could be the next Michael Irvin …. HoF. Triplets? Ponder, Peterson, Blackmon?

  182. By Rocksalt on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    I seriously doubt our blogs have any effect whatsoever on how PROFESSIONALS go about their business……the notion that it would seems at best idealistic, at worst ignorant.

  183. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn- Hes much more humble than Irvin.

  184. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Rocksalt, au contraire my amigo. Fred Jones got the us a GM!

  185. By DRS on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.wisegeek.com/who-is-the-all-time-best-quarterback-in-the-nfl.htm

    Fran Tarkenton’s regular season record is stunning. However, many dismiss his performance because of his inability to win any of the three Super Bowls in which he played. However, he held virtually all passing records at the time of his retirement. Additionally, he had great ability to run with the ball, chalking up over 3500 rushing yards and 32 touchdowns. He is fourth in the list of number of rushing yards.

  186. By DRS on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Is ponder a nother Fran Tarkenton?

  187. By DRS on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2012/01/11/vikings_stadium_faq/

    Vikings stadium FAQ
    by Paul Tosto, Minnesota Public Radio
    January 11, 2012

    St. Paul, Minn. — “The proposal for a new, multi-purpose stadium is dead and the reason is that taxpayers are unwilling to sign a blank check. We’re interested in having the Vikings stay. But the question is: What is the price?”

    Who said it: Amy Koch? Tim Pawlenty? John Marty? Mark Dayton? No. The words came from St. Paul Sen. John Chenoweth – nearly 40 years ago – as lawmakers and Vikings team owners wrangled over building what would become the Metrodome.

    Read through the Metropolitan Sports Facilities Commission history of the Metrodome and it’s stunning how the current rhetoric over a new stadium matches up almost exactly with the same battles in the 1970s, including the dire predictions of Gov. Wendell Anderson in 1975 that the Vikings (and Minnesota Twins) would leave without passage of stadium legislation to replace Metropolitan Stadium.

  188. By DRS on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    And like then MN will go cheap and make the Vikings go with the least favorable stadium possible. Hated it then and will hate it now. Never went to that stinking dome and will not go to any stinking dome they my build now. Is it not time for MN to return to the days of the old Met? Met=4 SB’s and the Dome=0 SB’s!

  189. By DRS on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=91

    Hosts

    Is there such a thing as a “dome field advantage?” Whenever a dome team has a strong season and happens to be very good at home, sportswriters get to write about the special dome field advantage. Supposedly, it’s tougher to win in a dome because of the loud crowd noise, and maybe the artificial turf and the absence of natural elements. So do the facts bear this our? Do dome teams do better than regular teams at home?

    According to the data, the answer is no. That’s an important caveat, though. The numbers just show one thing: home wins minus road wins, for all teams that played in a dome. It’s certainly possible that some special advantage exists for dome teams that wasn’t examined in this study. But at the end of this post I’ll throw out a theory on why there might actually be a “dome team disadvantage.”

  190. By DRS on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Good night.

  191. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    We Don’t have a player like that on the Defense.

  192. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    This always chokes me up a bit.

  193. By Frederick Jones on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Wow slow night on Vikings.com blog!

  194. By Frederick Jones on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Spence, Titus,

    I wasn’t trying to start a controversy.

    Titus said we shouldn’t give up on our team when they have early season troubles.
    I was merely agreeing with him!

  195. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Nothing really to talk about Fred. Plus Wobbs just refuses to write another blog.

  196. By Frederick Jones on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    @Rocksalt,

    We ALL have an effect on each other in this world, whether we like it or not.

    @Joe Titus Jones,

    I did not get Spielman his job as GM. I did ENCOURAGE the Vikings to hire a GM like many others did as well. Shawn and several others had prominent roles.

    It’s like when FireChildress was chanting. It’s possible Childress may have been fired at the same exact time without the chanting. But I’m thinking it sped up the process. IMAGINE WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF AS MANY PEOPLE CHANTED “WE WANT CHILDRESS AS COACH!!!”

    I am betting he would still be coach of the Vikings today!

  197. By Frederick Jones on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    We effect each other on this blog.

    Lots of people wrote posts complaining about my “spam, repeated posts, and etc.”

    It’s all good…we try to effect what we think is best.

    It should be about fun.

  198. By Frederick Jones on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    I think it took about 4 hours to collect 20 posts on this blog.

    Write anything!!!

  199. By Frederick Jones on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Titus is right that we should try to be more positive about our team.

    The pessimist is often right, but the optimist is always happy.

    Which will help the team more: positive, supportive fans or negative, cynical fans?

  200. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Fred, are you still living on a farm?

  201. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Spamming should result in a banning. No affense Fred.

  202. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Spence if banning were allowed youd be my one and only choice to be banned. Fred Jones is aware of the problems on the team and understands that the only way for change is if everyone is on the same page. You never know who knows who and who talks or listens to who …

    Frederick Jones keep fighting my Viking brother ….

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  203. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

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  206. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    :P

  207. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    I just look at things differently Shawn.

  208. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

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  209. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    I think Wobbs is taking a vacation.

  210. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Spence you look at things like a Packer fan …

    Spence thinks

    Jared Allen bad

    Peterson Bad

    Harvin Bad

    Ced Griffin Bad

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    but Chris Cook is good ?

    out of all of those names the only one you praise is the only one to blame for the cr’appy season. Maybe if Chris Cook was a professional football player Ced Griffin wouldnt have had 15 starts … hmm nah its Jareds poor pass rush and Petersons lack of skill and Percy not getting better than a 6.6 yards per rush. Yah thats how the Packer fan Spence sees it ….

  211. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    I think Jared Allen is a beast and the anchor of the Defense. Peterson is on his way to Canton. And Percy is one of the toughest most explosive WR in the game.

    Shawn, why dont you realize that Ced was bad this year?

  212. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    I’ll be the first to tell you Cook was a scrub last year.

  213. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Yea the WR Percy Harvin ran the ball 52 times for 345 yards at 6.6 yards per carry with 2 TDs … thats the WR Percy Harvin and Spence says “My only problem with Percy at RB is that whenever they put him back there he shows absolutely No patience.”

    but CHris Cook is awesome ? i have never met a fan of any team in any sport who starts the criticism with their best players and praises its worst … thats why i dont believe your a Viking fan.

  214. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    On reverses hes amazing. But running between the tackles is where he shows no patience.

    Shawn..Cook played Good in the games he played in. Griffin didnt, what do you not understand?

  215. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    By Shawn on Jan 13, 2012 | Reply

    Ced was bad … Cook didnt show

    hmmmm

    Who would you trust? go to battle alone ? or ?

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    I have several times Spence … you just dont pay attention. you too buy praising Chris Cook

  216. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer seems to have done his homework. Shawn- field goal. Spencer – touchdown with two point conversion.

  217. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Weak argument Shawn.

  218. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    What weak argument?

  219. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    ALL you have is “Ced showed up, Cook didnt.”

  220. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Titus what are you talking about your about as firm as water. Youve learned to speak politic. Your the Mitt Romney of the viking blog. LOL and I say that with all due respect

  221. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    My god spence debating with you is like talking to a 10 year old. let me recap for you …

    Spence “Shawn, why dont you realize that Ced was bad this year?”

    Shawn says “By Shawn on Jan 13, 2012 | Reply .. Ced was bad … ”

    Spence says “Weak argument Shawn.”

    Seriously ?

  222. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    I clearly said ur weak argument was “Ced showed up, Cook didnt.”

  223. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    I cannot tell you two apart.

  224. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Titus are you Spence? cause i was thinking the same thing l8ly

  225. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn, you know a wise man once said to me-‘Stop and Think.’ Thats what you need to do.

  226. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Anyway … Back to my point if the banning begins i will vote for Spence. I appreciate FredJones.

  227. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Self-control is a start to wisdom.

  228. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    At least Fred is a Viking fan who understands Jared Allen, Adrian Peterson, and Percy are the best we got. Fred also knows OL and DB are the biggest weaknesses.

    Fred doesnt come here to spam how bad Jared Allen is or try to explain why our WR doesnt have enough patience when playing RB …

    Spence you have never listened to a wise man …. Im guessing everyone tells you to stop and think because you F’up a lot.

  229. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    I could careless Shawn. But anyways why do you defend arguably the worst starter on the defense?

  230. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer has a right to express his view. Shawn, aren’t you mister anti-censorship? Ha.

  231. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    I vote Spencer to be on the blog.

  232. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Why do you Always twist my words? I know our Big 3 is AP, Harvin, and Allen.

  233. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    O titus i know im arguing with your new friend but Spence suggested that spamming should lead to banning fred so to counter i stood up for fred by telling spence if i had a choice it … o nvrmind just read the blog and follow the banter.

  234. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Heres what I “hate” about Peterson..

  235. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    You forgot Greenway and Shiancoe.

  236. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

  237. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, you want to ban Fred Jones?

  238. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    He doesnt know when to step out of bounds and live to fight another day. Which is why I prefer CJ over AP because CJ doesnt go through all the Unnecessary wear and tear.

  239. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Spence Im done with you for awhile. I would have to go through every blog to get you caught back up. I have answered all these things you keep bringing up. Its round and round non sense. You havent read a single post Ive made I guess O Well

  240. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Now this is what im talking about with Percy

  241. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Oops, wrong link^

  242. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Packer fan Spence attacking Peterson again … even though he only had 1 fumble in 2011

    Thats your buddy Titus … loves attacking all of our stars

  243. By Shawn on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Packer fan Spence attacks our stars and praises Chris Cook.

  244. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Im not attacking him for the fumble, im “attacking” him for the fact that he doesnt know when to step out of bounds to live to fight another down. If he steps out of bounds, there is no fumble.

  245. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Let him attack — I think he is more making some concrete and valid observations. Who says we have to worship and idolize these players? Are they so sacred they are beyond constructive criticism? Spencer makes a valid point on AP wearing himself out– If I disagree, I will say so once or twice and then let it go. Shawn, let it go– why do you have to prove anything to Spencer? He might be a kid. Why let him inside your head and cause you to react?

  246. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    But other than that hes still an amazing World-Class player. Hes the face of the Franchise.

  247. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    I am outta here– I will let you children play.

  248. By Spencer on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    Look Shawn, what Cook did was selfish and extremely cowardly. I cant defend that and I wont. However on the field he was Great and Ced was not. There is no way you can convince me otherwise. Truce?

  249. By PurpleNation on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Spence and Tom aren’t making any sense

  250. By PurpleNation on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    At least Shawn and Fred Jones and the others actually know what they’re talking about

  251. By PurpleNation on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Not just making up half A-S-S BS like Spence and Tom, which I’m a bit relieved knowing it could be/get worse if the GM job were to fall into the hands of Spence or Tom! :(

  252. By Rocksalt on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    good article in Daily Norseman:

    Whew, this has been a tiring couple of days here at DN. Now, I’m not an expert on economics or politics…I’m just a music professor and avid Vikings fan…but, I do understand political subterfuge pretty well. I’ve also been following the stadium developments very closely for the past 4 months. Not that anyone asked, but in my opinion we are a few days away from an announcement from Zygi Wilf that we’ll have a new stadium at the Metrodome site. What follows are a lot of details supporting why I think this will happen.

    Here’s a brief history of the recent stadium developments within the state legislature:

    1. The Vikings are working with elected officials, business, labor and community leaders in an effort to advance the team’s stadium development project during the 2011 Legislative Session. (taken from Vikings.com)

    2. It is now the 2012 Legislative Session. (taken from public records)

    You read that right. Of all the stuff that has been reported in local media, exactly nothing has officially happened except that the Vikings are “working with elected officials.” Yes, we’ve gotten official proposals, press conferences, interviews, etc. But until there is a bill to vote on in the legislature, all of this is just political posturing.

    The Economics.

    The cost of the stadium depends on where it is built, but it could cost as much as $1.1 Billion dollars. How that cost is split up between the Vikings, the State of Minnesota and the local partner also depends on where it is built. But, if we use the Arden Hills proposal as the working example, taxpayers would pay $675 Million and the Vikings would pay $425 Million (a 62/38 split). There has been a lot of misinformation posted in the comments section about what kind of return taxpayers can expect from that $675 Million investment. But according to Jason ReDusha of CBS:

    1. Vikings are directly responsible for about $21.5 Million in tax revenue right now (player, staff, coaches income tax, visiting team taxes, taxes on tickets, merchandise and fees). This total will likely be higher once the stadium is built, as their profits will be better in a new stadium. If the Vikings were to leave, this would be lost revenue.

    2. Other organizations would use the new stadium too. 25% of the revenue that the Metrodome currently generates comes from non-Vikings use. This additional use is difficult to estimate, so in order to be generous and very conservative in the estimate, we’ll throw it out.

    2. 40% of Vikings’ season ticket holders are “out-of-towners”, which are key to measuring economic development that the Vikings are directly responsible for. Since local economic activity is a wash (it’s assumed locals would spend their money elsewhere if the Vikings didn’t exist), only the out-of-towners matter. It was calculated that a single Vikings playoff game led to $5 Million in economic activity from out-of-towners. If we assume a conservative estimate of 5% tax return on that, for a 10-game season, the Vikings are responsible for an additional $2.5 Million in tax revenue from the out-of-towner economic activity.

    3. So, going with a purposefully conservative estimate, if you assume that the Vikings are therefore responsible for $24 Million in tax revenue, it would take about 28 years to pay off the stadium…if there was no inflation. Currently, inflation is at about 3%. So, that $24 Million in tax revenue would compound each year and would trim at least 4-5 years off of that estimate.

    4. The current Metrodome has been in use for 30 years, so if the new stadium is paid off in 24 years, the state is looking to reap pure profit for at least 5 years. 25 years from now, $24 Million in tax revenue would be at least double that due to inflation. So, at the end of the stadium’s life, taxpayers would reap at least $250 Million in tax revenue during the life of the 30-year stadium (or an average of $8 million profit for the state per year after subtracting the cost of the stadium).

    5. The Metrodome was built for $55 Million in 1982, which would be about $123 Million in today’s dollars. Of course, we’d also have the exact same stadium for those dollars. The needs of today’s NFL are vastly different than the NFL of 1982 due to advances in technology and popularity of the sport. So, this isn’t a fair comparison. If we wanted to build a Metrodome today, we wouldn’t need to spend $123 Million…we already have one and it’s been deemed out-dated.

    So, the above is a very conservative estimate of the economics of the stadium, and it is a positive investment by the state of Minnesota. Taxpayers invest $675 Million, and generate at least $925 Million in tax revenue as a result of that investment, equaling a return of at least $8 Million per year over the life of the stadium. This return is likely going to be higher, but it’s difficult to estimate.

    The Politics.

    Now, what about the politics? On the one hand, taxpayers are subsidizing a highly profitable business to keep that business in Minnesota. Is it a form of corporate welfare? On the other hand, taxpayers are reaping the benefits of having the Vikings in Minnesota through tax revenue and economic activity. Whatever your viewpoint, everyone must understand one thing: an NFL Team is a rare commodity for any city to have. The demand for an NFL Team FAR exceeds the supply of 32 NFL Teams. This is why cities and governments are willing to subsidize stadiums for professional sports. Subsidizing a stadium has nothing to do with corporate welfare, and everything to do with the tax revenue and economic activity (as shown above) that an NFL Team brings to a city. Therefore subsidizing these businesses through stadium building is worth it for any city. One only needs to look at the multitude of cities vying for NFL teams for proof of the demand. One can also look at the competing local proposals right here in Minnesota for further proof.

    1. Arden Hills Proposal. You can bet that the politicians in Minneapolis would do just about anything to prevent this proposal from becoming a reality, and you can’t blame them. They should be interested in keeping a new stadium in Minneapolis. Minneapolis swings Democratic, and the Governor swings Democratic, so there is common interest there, and neither one has anything to do with the St. Paul suburbs. It should come as no surprise that the state legislature is not interested in overriding a voter referendum on this proposal. And frankly, if Wilf thought this proposal had any chance, then he’s either more naïve than I thought, or he’s an idiot.

    2. Minneapolis Proposal. The Ramsey county politicians are trying their best to keep their proposal relevant, but it’s tough to get around a voter referendum. The Minneapolis proposal could avoid that altogether by reallocating current tax revenue and building a new casino. The fact that they had upwards of three site options once upon a time makes it obvious that they have the political will to keep the stadium in Minneapolis. Combine that with their 3-for-1 funding proposal and this is about as slam-dunk of a proposal as there is, 4 pages in all. This just needs the Vikings to sign on.

    Predicitions.

    There is a lot of doom and gloom right now, but I personally don’t see it. Not once have the Vikings said they would move or sell the team. Yes, they mentioned being contacted by other cities about relocating, but mentioning being contacted by other locations, and threatening to leave are two completely different things. The Vikings have nothing to lose by mentioning other cities, as it simply reminds everyone of the possibility and gives the team leverage. I truly believe Zygi Wilf has been working in good faith, and I expect them to work out a deal with Minneapolis and the University to go with the Metrodome site, and having the Vikings play at TCF for the next 3 years. The Vikings would be foolish to wait for another legislative session, and essentially gamble on more favorable politics. They would be smart to negotiate with Minneapolis, and Minneapolis should be motivated to work with the Vikings to find a compromise funding package.

  253. By Spencer on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    If I were GM things would be different. Bryant Mckinnie and Chris Cook would be have been been playing. Ponder would have started opening day, and Winfield would be playing Strong Safety( Where he should be). Cedric Griffin would have been benched after Week 4 for putting up putrid performances week after week. So Brandon Burton would have started at Right CB, and Sapp/Sherals would be the Nickel CB’s.

    Ballard would have been put in for Remi because he simply can not play the D-tackle position. Kyle Rudolph would have been promoted, and Visante Shianco would have been traded. Emmanuel Arceneaux surely would have got more playing time. Greg Camarillo would be the Punt returner because Sherals is mistake prone back there. Finally Everson Griffin would have been starting at DE because Brian Robison disappears for not just one game, but for weeks on end.

  254. By Rocksalt on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    BTW-
    Fred-
    I agree with you that we all impact one another in our daily lives and interactions.
    However, blogging anonymously about a professional organization such as is the case with ALL FANS of ALL SPORTS TEAMS is just what it is: entertainment, venting frustration, lauding accomplishments.
    This is not the same as cheering on your team in the stadium.
    Also, If Poindexter was such a GOOD coach WTF did we have 12 men in huddle in NFC championship game? HE MADE MANY BLUNDERS AS COACH…….HIRE/FIRE RANDY…….

  255. By Rocksalt on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    IMO I suspect Titus is Spencer

  256. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.foxsportsnorth.com/02/01/12/Peterson-wanted-to-change-numbers-but-/msn_landing.html?blockID=657800&feedID=3697

  257. By Spencer on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    I wasnt Titus.

  258. By Rocksalt on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    ok Spencer…..it was just a thought…….

    On the bloggers have imapact on organizationb:
    So…..Jared, Adrian, Greenway, et all are reading these and placing stock in what Titus, Fred, Shawn, or any of us has to say???
    GET A LIFE ! I am sure they don’t give ANY consideration to these b..t.c.h boards……THEY HAVE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO………these places are for arm-chair athletes and weekend warriors.

  259. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    http://thevikingage.com/2012/01/31/vikings-shoot-down-new-minneapolis-stadium-site-rumor/

    For those still keeping score, the Metrodome site retains the lead spot in the Great Stadium Derby. Every other potential Twin Cities-area site is tied for second. L.A. is in third place and my personal favorite, Duluth, is running a distant fourth.

    Like The Viking Age on Facebook.
    Follow Dan Zinski on Twitter.

  260. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Vikings

    Throughout the Vikings’ history, they have had one of the highest winning percentages in the NFL.[3] They are also one of only six NFL teams to win at least 15 games during the regular season. The Vikings have won one NFL championship, in 1969, prior to the league’s merger with the American Football League (AFL). Since the merger, they have made the playoffs 24 times, third most in the league. The team has played in four Super Bowls, losing in each one. The team currently has ten members in the Pro Football Hall of Fame: Fran Tarkenton, Alan Page, Bud Grant, Jim Finks, Paul Krause, Ron Yary, Carl Eller, Gary Zimmerman, Randall McDaniel and John Randle.[4]

  261. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.startribune.com/local/138536309.html

    Rybak sounded another call for action Wednesday, e-mailing supporters that without it, city taxpayers could end up with a “raw deal.”
    Even so, Council Member Betsy Hodges views the pitfalls of the Target Center deal as Exhibit A in the case against the public financing of sports facilities.
    She asked: “If we already feel like we have one albatross around our neck, why would we think the solution is putting another albatross around our neck?”

  262. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Have to go, be back later.

  263. By Frederick Jones on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    @Rocky,

    If you were a Viking, wouldn’t you be interested in what the fans were saying about you? I think they would be stupid to read it during a 3-13 season.

    Knowing human nature, I bet some Vikings do in fact read the Vikings.com blog. And I bet a few even leave posts!!!

    The real argument I postulated for about the 5th or 6th time in the last year is
    THE FANS INFLUENCE THE FANS!!!

    You have changed my thinking, I have changed yours!

  264. By Frederick Jones on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Spence,

    Look out for a change in the blog next year.
    You and I might have to sign up, and divulge personal info. in order to
    blog on ONE topic. There will be many topics, but you can only blog
    on one.

    This is how many other teams do it.

    Vikings.com Blog is the greatest in the NFL!!!

  265. By Frederick Jones on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Tom Titus Jones,

    I actually live on a lake home in the country between two cities. I haven’t learned to like it yet. It’s not a farm.

  266. By Viking33 on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    @ DRS & Rocksalt – Good Stadium info!! That Article from the professor guy was a little skewed, as far as the way he was so conservative in his projections, and I think he also left a lot of $$ on the table. I hope that Minneapolis does not win out, but I think that Politics will prevail.

  267. By Viking33 on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Did you see the Article that McNabb was interviewed in Indy saying that he is hoping for a comeback and that there are 3 teams in the NFL that could benefit from his talents……………? He also says that no team has contacted him – hey Donovan……take a freakin’ hint man!!

  268. By Frederick Jones on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    @Rocky,

    It’s hard to imagine someone like Jared Allen being afraid to read what some blogger has to say about him!!! lol x 5

  269. By Frederick Jones on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Viking33,

    Don McNabb will be back in the NFL. His current price is probably way to high!

  270. By Viking33 on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    @ Spencer – I agree with your GM moves, except for McKinnie and maybe Camarillo returning Punts ( but I also think we need a bonified “Returner” in the Draft ). I would also add some moves along the OLine as well, the reluctance to play the rookies overall this year was very disturbing, considering the level of play from the “veterans”.

  271. By Frederick Jones on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    @Viking33,

    Yeah, I also wondered why they didn’t play the rookies along the most
    porous offensive line in the NFL.

  272. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings announce signing of CFL LB
    by Tim Yotter of VikingUpdate.com, January 31, 2012 at 1:38 pm ET

    Solomon Elimimian Profile

    The Vikings officially announced the signing of former CFL linebacker Solomon Elimimian on Tuesday. The move had been announced by Elimimian’s agent last week.

    Elimimian reportedly received a $35,000 signing bonus and the $390,000 minimum offer from the Vikings. The Vikings had two other CFL products, WR Emmanuel Arceneaux and LB Kenny Onatolu (a free agent), on their roster last year.

    Elimimian became an all-star at the CFL level, named the league’s hardest hitter in a poll of players, despite his size. He figures his 6-foot, 225-pound frame will be the focus of those who question his ability to compete at the NFL level, but he’s willing to take that chance.

  273. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Fred, it must be peaceful on the lake. I do like being around all the hub-bub though.
    Rocksalt- be real. Do I sound like Spencer?
    Purplenation– wow, man, get a grip.

  274. By Viking33 on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    I liked the Signing of the CFL LB, Solomon – he should give us some depth there at LB and he will make a solid Special Teamer too.

  275. By Frederick Jones on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Thanks for the info DRS.

    Perhaps you could also get him started on strength training!!!

  276. By Viking33 on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    McNabb may come back and pllay, but I can’t see anyone giving him the keys to the Offense as a Starter. Anyone who signs him as a Starter needs to be proactively fired.

  277. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.startribune.com/politics/statelocal/138514039.html

    Rep. Morrie Lanning, R-Moorhead, the chief House stadium legislation author, said Dayton’s language was, at best, “not healthy” when trying to negotiate a stadium deal.

    “I can understand the governor being upset about it. My own view is he totally overreacted,” Lanning said.

    Lanning, Rosen and the governor have been working closely on stadium legislation for the Vikings, which has not yet been introduced.

    “Some of the language he used in showing his [being] upset was pretty harsh,” said Lanning. “We’re in a climate right now where harsh language from either side is not healthy when it comes to any issue – when it comes to any controversial issue.”

  278. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Frederick Jones, sounds like he could us some strength training.

  279. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    DRS .. I will have to dissagree with Rep. Morrie Lanning, R-Moorhead, the chief House stadium legislation author and say that Governor Dayton (Dem) is the only intelligent person in the room. Im am proud and glad Gov Dayton (D) is trying to get a stadium built. Its just too bad Rep. Morrie Lanning, R-Moorhead has a job that involves nothing but saing “NO !!! ” to the Democrat Governor. Of course that seems to be standard all over the country.

  280. By Mike B. on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    I will have to agree with Fred on Don McNabb. If he wants to take a big cut in salary to help a young QB as a backup there will be a team that wants him. His big paydays are probably over.

  281. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    oops i dont think i made my point correctly what i meant was … Its just too bad Rep. Morrie Lanning, R-Moorhead has a job

  282. By Mike B. on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    I am wondering why they would compare the Target center to a new Vikings stadium. You are comparing oranges to apples. The NFL is much more popular than the NBA. NFL bringing in the Superbow to a new stadium will return the local investment at least. :Look at the dollars they are spending in Indianapolis. Also let’s not just try and get buy wth the cheapest option availible. The need is a state of the art year round use facility. No matter where it is located. Let’s not skimp on how good the facility should be. In the long haul the stadium is going to bring in more taxes and profits that it will cost. Saying otherwise you might as well have your head deep in the sand. Let’s get it done.

  283. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    http://min.scout.com/2/1154655.html

    Word out of St. Louis is that they are enamored with wide receiver Justin Blackmon. But trading the No. 2 pick and dropping to No. 4, odds are they would still be able to land Blackmon – with Cleveland taking RG3 and the Vikings snapping up offensive tackle Matt Kalil with the third pick. The deal would allow the Browns to get the player they want

  284. By Mike B. on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    @DRS It would also decrease the value of the #3 pick in that trade. I could see the vikings taking Blackmon in that situation as we have a need at WR. A lot of what happens with MN first pick is determined by what the Rams do.

  285. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Yes, I know Shawn, all Republicans are bad and all Democrats are saints. It is too bad that you cannot see beyond you rose collard g-l-a-s-s-e-s. Mean while politics will be the ruin off this country. If the legislature continues like they did in the 70’s and 80’s we will end up with a cheap stadium or the Vikings will move just like the Lakers and the North Stars.

  286. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn, there are good and bad in both parties, and I can remember when the Democrats were in control and they were the party of no when it came to the Republican agenda, when the Republicans wanted some person to be appointed to some office.

  287. By Viking33 on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    I wonder if there was any revenue brought to the State of Minnesota when Super Bowl XXVI was hosted there?? Ya, probably no money there……ye Politicians of short memory.

  288. By Parody on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    If Kalil is available, the trade value of the #3 pick doesn’t matter. We need a good LT more than Indy needs a new QB. Everyone knows it would be stupid for them to trade away the best prospect in the draft, and it would be just as stupid for us to trade away the second best prospect.

  289. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn it seems to me that the most hateful and harsh words come from your side of the political persuasion. Now I am not a big fan of the Republicans train of thought, when it comes to restricting freedoms and liberty that is. I think we need to see the truth in that we as a nation need leaders who will do their job and not attract people who truly disagree with them and try to work with each other and stop the childish name calling.

  290. By Viking33 on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    The draft will be fun to say the least! Peyton/Luck for the Colts? RG3 trade looming at 2 or 3 / Blackmon intriging / Kalil….best LT in the Draft?? What will happen with all the uncertainity at the top 3 or 4 spots. I think there will be at least 2 big trades this year – the question is…..will we be a part of one of them, and if so, will be a winner in the trade?

  291. By Viking33 on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Anyone that is a devout Party follower in this day and age is not very open minded, to say the least.

  292. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    My past posting is my point that Minnesota is once more repeating itself.

    By DRS on Feb 1, 2012 | Reply

    http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2012/01/11/vikings_stadium_faq/

    Vikings stadium FAQ

    by Paul Tosto, Minnesota Public Radio

    January 11, 2012

    St. Paul, Minn. — “The proposal for a new, multi-purpose stadium is dead and the reason is that taxpayers are unwilling to sign a blank check. We’re interested in having the Vikings stay. But the question is: What is the price?”

    Who said it: Amy Koch? Tim Pawlenty? John Marty? Mark Dayton? No. The words came from St. Paul Sen. John Chenoweth – nearly 40 years ago – as lawmakers and Vikings team owners wrangled over building what would become the Metrodome.

    Read through the Metropolitan Sports Facilities Commission history of the Metrodome and it’s stunning how the current rhetoric over a new stadium matches up almost exactly with the same battles in the 1970s, including the dire predictions of Gov. Wendell Anderson in 1975 that the Vikings (and Minnesota Twins) would leave without passage of stadium legislation to replace Metropolitan Stadium.

  293. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Well DRS … I dont want to go down the political rants again. I really dont know how you think the Liberal have “the most hateful and harsh words come from your side” ?

    First I dont know any words we use to describe your side …. but heres a short list of things from your side to describe our side

    Communist
    Socialist ( which isnt pure evil , its based in a good cause )
    Lazy, leeches of society
    bleeding heart liberals ( again simply means we care about everyone not just the elite)

    or should we just go with what your side says hate wise about the current president?

    Muslim (even though he comes out of a chri’stian church every sunday)
    Non American (could there be a worse insult for the president?)

    the list would be endless

    but what hate do we use to describe your side? i honestly have no clue?

  294. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn, what is my side? I am an independent who stands for freedom and liberty, Once more you are miss informed.

  295. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Viking33 … as a liberal I have put serious consideration into Ron Paul

    However personally only 3 issues concern me so thats how I vote

    1- Unions (FYI my Union has supported labor friendly Republicans, there are not many)

    2- Health Care … Why is America the only civilized country that doesnt care about all of its citizens?

    3- the Minnesota Vikings

    could care less about any other issue although I have opinions on them and Ron Paul is awesome for some of my opinions and horrid for others ditto Obama

  296. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Get over your hate my man, you will live a better life if you do so.

  297. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    DRS … fine just tell me the hate rhetoric from my side if you wont choose one. you said my side has the most hate but I dont know what we say?

  298. By TOM TITUS JONES on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Seriously, let it go Shawn. DRS is right. You are a very angry man.

  299. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    LOL what hate ??????

  300. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn, there is a better way than Obama care, such as the Government paying the premiums of the poor’s health insurance, and not trying to take over everything.

  301. By Viking33 on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ya – No problem with anything on that list you put up there Shawn, that happened. But to say there is nothing but love from “your side”?? Maybe we should add narrow minded to the list then. Both sides throw punches and deal under the table, they just do it in different ways, don’t be naive. To be sure I am on the road that used to be less traveled, I do not have a side. But I do believe in judging individuals based on their individual track record. It is a shame that there still must “Parties” because so many politicians straddle the line these days. Do you like other players, even if they are not a Viking?

  302. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn, how about what you say when someone disagrees with you when it comes to Unions? You have posted some real mean things about me when I had pointed out some of my dislikes of the Union I was with when I worked for Boeing.

  303. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    DRS … I agree Obama care is not the best way however he was the only one to bring healthcare to the table. The other side just wants those that cant afford life to die.

    Heres my opinion on the healthcare issue and growing government … wouldnt it be cheaper to have health care for all like every other civilized country rather than have 10 differant organizations each having a hierarchy(sp?) examples medicare, government workers, welfare, and obamacare … thats 4 differant government run organizations that all have a well paid “leader” and pyramids down the staff. instead of 1 health plan with one leader

    Just my opinion

  304. By Carl K on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Right on Parody.
    Kalil
    Kalil
    Kalil in round 1

    The question is what will the Vikings do after Kalil?
    Blackmon and M Floyd are the best WRs in the draft… out side of those 2, I would begin to question if any of the other WRs are as big, fast or more athletically gifted than our own Joe Webb.

    Joe proved himself as a capable receiver with 30 catches for 459 yards and 3 TD in 2007 on bad UAB team with little talent at QB.

  305. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Viking33 … I am not saying its all love from my side. I have ranted. Heres the difference as i see it. Liberals dont have constant key words or phrases to describe there opposition. We have strong opinions about their side but I think we describe each situation individually more often where as the other side just throws out the same hatefull rhetoric. The easiest form of brainwashing is repitition.

  306. By Spencer on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Why are we talking politics?

  307. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    I too use to be an angry man, and hated people, but now I have learnt that it is I who needed to change and came to understand we all have our likes and dislikes, that we can disagree with out labeling each other. I sometimes revert back to my old ways now and then but I really try to overcome that and try to see the others point of view. So many Democrats friends of mine seem to be so angry with others and them self that they do not take the time to look to see what the other side is saying and revert to name calling just to make themselves feel better. I do see this more and more on the Republican side as well, that is why I say that politics will be the ruin of the nation.

  308. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, why not? Nothing is going on with the Vikings.

  309. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    DRS … yes I do get very personal when Unions are attacked. Back when we used to have our go around it was a huge issue so I said some things very strongly. Unions are less than 20% of the work force nowadays and at the time I was over the top was when it looked like the Vikings would leave MN and 3-4 Republican states were attacking unions ( Scott Walker) so I was angry. My moms Union was under attack from the republicans as well. So when family is under attack things get personnal

    America was great when Unions were a bigger force. When 1 parent could work and the other could raise the kids but in todays corporate world it seems more and more it takes both parents ignoring the kids just to pay the bills

  310. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    DRS … I know when we went back and forth I never took it as a direct personal attack. Like I said 2 of my 3 issues were under attack so my anger level was high.

  311. By Spencer on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Politics bring out the worst in you guys, especially Shawn- a very angry man.

  312. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    lol sorry all 3 of my issues were being attacked and to an extent still are

  313. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn, we can agree to disagree when it comes to politics, but I think we agree that the Vikings need to be in Minnesota and that Minnesota needs to respect the Vikings a bit more then they have in the past.

  314. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    fair enough

  315. By Mike B. on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    There is a process that each team takes to determine the player they pick. There is no guarantee that the Vikings pick Kalil. Most of the first round players know who has interested in them. The Vikings may determine that Morris is their guy or that Blackmon is. They may decide to trade down as they don’t like any of the top 5 guys. I think we should be happy that they pick someone that fills a need.

  316. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn, here is to your freedom to be a Democrat and your liberty to be in a Union.

  317. By Frederick Jones on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    @Carl K.,

    We haven’t heard from you in quite some time.

    Will the Vikings hire/fire some offensive coaches now that they appear to be
    done with the defensive side?

  318. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    lol i think that should come with a visual DRS … how do i know you didnt just throw me the bird ? :) i kid i kid … i think?

  319. By Frederick Jones on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    @Tom Titus Jones,

    I like the city for several things. The country is okay for running during the warmer months, but up in northern MN where I am, it’s a beast to try to run in winter.

    I do anyway. But getting to a gym to lift is difficult.

  320. By Frederick Jones on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    What happened to Nova (Comic Relief) Scotia Vike???

  321. By Mike B. on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    @Shawn I have voted republican all my life. I don’t vote for those that say no just to block a party. You want to see a hater watch Bill Maher sometime now there’s a hater. He hates anything that Bush done with a passion and says it openly. Problem most people have is short term memory. I don’t agree with the Tea Party. I believe that the government does have an obligation to take care of the elderly and those that can’t work. The need to assure the work force in place now that there will be social security availible to them. I have paid in since I was 16 and I by god want to get some back. Next time you hear a politican say Entitlement reform step up and ask them what do you mean by Entitlements and which are you going to reform. Don’t let em get by just using a general term. Don’t vote for those that won’t tell you.

  322. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Mike B … I like that. I think both sides have “leaders” that will use their Law Degree and debate class success to tell 1/2 truths and avoid elaborating on issues.

    Funny thing though Im a Bill Maher fan. I like the way his show brings on people from all side to debate. He just had Herman Cain on the other day. I think Rush Limbaugh is the conservative version of Maher. Both guys are haters. As much as Maher said about Bush Limbaugh says about Obama.

  323. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

  324. By Frederick Jones on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    @Shawn and Mike B.,

    Certainly you can’t say Maher or Limbaugh have more gray matter than the average blogger!!!

    The are both talented talkers and Bser’s

  325. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn I would never give you the bird, my statement is in the vein of the pirate’s life of freedom and liberty.

  326. By Viking-ology on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Politics shmolitics…

  327. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    LOL Fred … true that

  328. By Viking-ology on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    I VOTE for Shakopee!

  329. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Viking-ology, Shakopee gets my vote as well.

  330. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=song+of+the+viking+lyrics&mid=12A991DFA917E417948C12A991DFA917E417948C&view=detail&FORM=VIRE1

  331. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

  332. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

  333. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    I think the Vikings new helmets should look something like the photos in my last post. LOL.

  334. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Have a drink to freedom and liberty, and never give it up to anyone my friends.

  335. By Mike B. on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    @Fred Not a fan of Rush and his ilk. I would love to debate Bill Maher. I could wipe the floor on him.

  336. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Go Vikings!!!!!!

  337. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=song+of+the+viking+lyrics&mid=8C476FE28D012FBCEFF28C476FE28D012FBCEFF2&view=detail&FORM=VIRE3

  338. By Spence on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Vikings till i die

  339. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

  340. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Skol Vikings

    Lyrics

    Skol Vikings, let’s win this game,
    Skol Vikings, honor your name,
    Go get that first down,
    Then get a touchdown.
    Rock ‘em . . . Sock ‘em
    Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!
    Go Vikings, run up the score,
    You’ll hear us yell for more. . .
    V-I-K-I-N-G-S
    Skol, Vikings, let’s go!

  341. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

  342. By Titus the Magnificent on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    I think the Shakopee proposal makes the most sense. It all depends on the politics, though– I think the dome will be replaced just where it’s at.

  343. By Titus the Magnificent on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    DRS — you are going hog-wild with the videos.

  344. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Here is a drink to freedom and liberty, may the Vikings be in Minnesota for years to come and may they never be forgotten for life times to come.

    Have a great day everyone.

  345. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Titus the Magnificent, you think, maybe; I felt in the mood to share some Vikings music experiences.

    Go Vikings!!!!

  346. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Shakopee is the best site but politics will keep the dome site as the site, maybe it will keep the Vikings in that stinking dome for another thirty years. Who knows?

    SKOL Vikings.

  347. By Viking33 on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Vegas still has the Pats by 3 – they haven’t been wrong in a long time. I want the GMen to win, all in all though it should be a good game. Do you remember the John Randle days and every announcer would say that our “smaller” DLine was getting pushed around in the run game and we couldn’t stop it. Times have changed to the “quaterback driven league” (Bleh, god I hate that saying) – I wonder if the Patriots turn back the clock and run more against the “smaller” DLine of the GMen?

  348. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    DRS … if you like Viking music check out a band called DoomSword … really good Viking stories expressed through basic hard rock songs.

  349. By Titus the Magnificent on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Maybe we could bulldoze some of those new condos near the dome for tailgating?

  350. By Titus the Magnificent on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    I hope nobody reading this lives there– just joking.

  351. By Viking33 on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    @ Shawn – Be who you think you need to be – Be who you want to be – live the way you want – Be what you believe in. It is all good because we live in the USA – where Men have to listen to their women just so they will stop talking ( Just don’t admit to it ) – and Football is King!! It is all good!!

  352. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn, thanks.

  353. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

  354. By Viking33 on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    I wish I could auto mute my TV so that everytime Ron Jaworski talks I don’t have to hear it. It is so much work pushing that Mute button manually. Now I know how George Jetson felt ( Interesting to know who understands that )

  355. By DRS on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Titus the Magnificent, how about the entire area, might be an improvement, just joking, have a great day.

  356. By Viking33 on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn – How does a Bleeding Heart Liberal listen to Doomsword?? lol

  357. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Im all Viking brother … Im a norwegian from Minnesota. I literally bleed Viking blood

  358. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Shores of Vinland lyrics

    We were sailing towards
    The unknown in the open sea
    After the storm, our hope was lost
    In the raging waves but
    My old faith was never so strong,
    My viking heart don’t fear the fate!
    Under Leif’s chris’tian command
    Full of wild grapes was the land
    To which we approached
    And tried to live but no more
    Hydromel was in our horns
    Our viking hearts don’t fear the fate!
    Twice a winter, we messed our beloved.
    Praying the lord,
    Leif sought a blessing for our souls
    Under his sign we abandoned our folks,
    Now we are ready to unfurl the sails

    Naglfar the ship will not have our nails,
    Our viking hearts don’t fear the fate!
    Twice a winter we missed our beloved,
    To these shores our hearts do not belong!
    Our ship devours the ocean waste
    The sea is the nature on which we where born
    Approaching our bay resound the viking horn
    The hammer triumphant,
    The cross now is torn,
    My viking heart still has faith!
    Twice a winter, we missed our beloved
    Who did enlight the way to return?
    Mighty Thor bring me back home.

  359. By Viking33 on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Good Stuff!! Us fellow Norwegian’s from Minnesota need to stick together.

  360. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    do you have lefse for the holidays? i love lefse butter and sugar :)

  361. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    my first ancestors settled near Crookston MN

  362. By Spencer on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Does anybody remember a guy by the name of Robert Tate?

  363. By Viking33 on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn – I am from Crookston, MN born and raised! Lefse was a staple at all holiday functions!

  364. By Viking33 on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Small World!

  365. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    these guys have one really good viking albu’m … its a little on the cheesey side but i love it

  366. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    My 3x great grandpa is burried in the Old Halfslo Cemetery

  367. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    thats pretty wild viking 33

  368. By Viking33 on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    I remember Robert Tate – He was the WR that played some DB for Denny Green – I think of him when they show Edelman all the time,

  369. By Viking33 on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    That is pretty wild – It is weirder to know that you know the name of the Halfslo Cemetary. We partied near there at times in my youth – in a little field / woods adjacent to it, because Partying in a Cemetary would be just weird.

  370. By Spencer on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    He was my next door neighbor.

  371. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Im probably going to take my Dad up there this summer because neither of has been to the grave or the Church he helped build and according to legend some of his belongings he brought with him from Norway are in the Halfslo church which if I remember right has moved and …. thats all I remember

  372. By Viking33 on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    I love listening to these guys analyze the SB to death, it has to be hard work to keep coming up with something to talk about over two weeks time. The Gronk ankle thing is nuts, everyone has an opinion on it. Here is mine – he is a huge Polock guy, he doesn’t feel pain like a normal guy – I think he will be fine.

  373. By Shawn on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    do they have a museum up there?

  374. By Viking33 on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Ya – it moved a long long long long time ago. I don’t know to where exactly though. Thats pretty cool to make that journey though – good stuff. If you do it, have fun!!

  375. By Viking33 on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    There is a small museum in Crookston, I haven’t been there since High School – many moons ago.

  376. By Titus the Magnificent on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Boy, these blogs ramble all over the place. I guess there is not much Vikings-related to discuss anymore. We will see what happens in the draft and next season. GO GIANTS!!!

  377. By Spencer on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Go Brady!! Win One for Gisele!

  378. By Titus the Magnificent on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    GO VIKINGS!!!

  379. By Spencer on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Does Wobbs always not write a lot of articles in the off-season Titus?

  380. By Titus the Magnificent on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Not sure Spencer– I won’t be around much after the Superbowl. I have not been here too long– maybe a season, two max.

  381. By Spencer on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    O ok, just wondering.

  382. By Romulus on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    Spencer, I think we won’t see a new blog until the draft.

  383. By GM on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    NFL approves $200 million loan for 49ers stadium

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ArFjkjQASwsix9fHGLYWOehDubYF?slug=ap-49ersstadium

  384. By Romulus on Feb 2, 2012 | Reply

    I think that Purplenation blogger needs a hug.

  385. By NovaScotiaVike on Feb 3, 2012 | Reply

    If any of you guys are coming to my Super Bowl party, you should leave by Friday. Remember, there will be lots of booze, so you should take a cab.

  386. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 3, 2012 | Reply

    Positives- RBs (AD Toby and Percy), Young QB, TE, Percy (has to gets his own slot),Greenway , and Jared Allen.

    Negatives- Defense that can only show up in first half (age is reason, need to get young fast), inconsistent OLine play(AD should be 2000 yd back every year, once again age is reason need to get young fast here too).

    Needs- OLine, Safety and Pass Rushers. I say draft Coples first round. robison is a great rotational player shouldnt be gettin starters money. A OLine should be second choice. Safety third. CB fourth. WR fifth. Then draft OLine and DLine depth rest of the way

  387. By GrandDaddyPurp on Feb 3, 2012 | Reply

    A great pass rush can greatly improve secondary. Having a great secondary doesnt matter with a cover 2 defense. If the QBs have time they will easily find the holes in this soft zone defense our coaches feel they have to run.

    Improve the interior DLine and find another DE opposite Jared Allen to bring the pressure in the other end. rotate that with a guy like robison and this 2nd half slump our defense always seems to have will start to disappear. You wont see the same result if we draft a guy like Claiborne or kirkpatrick.

    We dont have to be a passing team but at least be able to stop the pass and that starts with a great pass rush not ONE guy who can get to the quarterback

  388. By ozzinator on Feb 3, 2012 | Reply

    Nova, I’m so there!

  389. By Rocksalt on Feb 3, 2012 | Reply

    You guys need to lighten up on Shawn. Shawn is not a hater…………..BTW unions are not all bad just go to a “so-called” right to work state…….many low paid workers and ofetn times poor workmanship in everything from construction to plumbing….

    And as far as hate-spewing……most of the near slanderous vitreole comes from the right.

    Titus-the one reason I mentioned maybe you were Spencer is exactly that you do not sound like him…….you are clever enough to make yourself disguised, I think,,,,,
    Fred-
    No I never said Jared would be afraid to read our blogs……BUT ONCE AGAIN-THESE ARE MOSTLY FOR FANS…….I SERIOUSLY DOUBT PLAYERS OR COACHES GIVE MUCH WEIGHT TO OUR BLOGS……

  390. By Spencer on Feb 3, 2012 | Reply

    I do not understand how this Secondary in 2010 was ranked 10th in Pass D.

    39 Husain Abdullah FS
    21 Asher Allen CB
    37 Eric Frampton SS
    33 Jamarca Sanford SS
    29 Lito Sheppard CB
    35 Marcus Sherels CB
    41 Frank Walker CB
    26 Antoine Winfield CB

  391. By Spencer on Feb 3, 2012 | Reply

    We were 20th in Sacks with 31 in 2010.
    And 1st in Sacks with 50 last year.

    So the 2010 secondary was good Despite their being practicably no pressure from the Defensive Ends.

  392. By Gary on Feb 3, 2012 | Reply

    Who needs fresh posts from Mike when we have: Titus, Shawn, Spencer, and Fred Jones? Why don’t you guys exchange emails or go to a chat room, or just GET A ROOM. Your exchanges are tiring. I for one, don’t even look when I see your names associated with a post.

  393. By Spence on Feb 3, 2012 | Reply

    ^I care?

  394. By Shawn on Feb 3, 2012 | Reply

    Spence … Antoine Winfield started all 16 games in 2010 if I remember right. Winfield is pretty good. this year he missed most of the games. You said we were a decent pass D in the first 5 games … Winfield was playing.

  395. By Shawn on Feb 3, 2012 | Reply

    Rocksalt … thanx for the love. you still my #1 liberal viking brother

  396. By Viking-ology on Feb 3, 2012 | Reply

    Almost 400 posts-looks like there won’t be a new blog for the weekend, C’mon Wob’s!

  397. By Viking-ology on Feb 3, 2012 | Reply

    Titus-OK here is my SB pick. It was a tough game to see, nothing too clear.
    Vikings 33 Bengals 27

  398. By Viking-ology on Feb 3, 2012 | Reply

    Of course, thats why it wasn’t clear, But thats what a Viking fan believes first and foremost-the Vikings will win the Super bowl (soon) it’s always soon…

  399. By Viking-ology on Feb 3, 2012 | Reply

    Superbowl pick-first OT game.

    Patriots 26 Giants 23

  400. By ozzinator on Feb 3, 2012 | Reply

    Shawn – I disagree with Titus saying you’re angry, at least not compared to Rocksalt. Now there’s one mean spirited liberal! Oh, and did I mention whiney?

  401. By Shawn on Feb 3, 2012 | Reply

    Thanx Ozz but I think Rock like me showed a lot of anger a few months ago when it really looked and seemed as if Minnesota was just going to let the Vikings go. That issue piled onto many others that were all peaking about the same time caused some things to be said. Rock’s good peeps

  402. By ozzinator on Feb 3, 2012 | Reply

    Fair enough Shawn, none of us wants to see the Vikings move. Some of us are just on different sides of the spectrum as far as how to resolve it or who is to blame.

  403. By Titus on Feb 3, 2012 | Reply

    Oz, you are dissin’ me? Come on- where’s the love?

  404. By Frederick Jones on Feb 3, 2012 | Reply

    @Rocky,

    I doubt that the players, coaches, employees, ball boys, etc. give much credence to our posts either.

    Never the less…

    WORKING TOGETHER WE SWING A MIGHTY HAMMER!!!

  405. By Frederick Jones on Feb 3, 2012 | Reply

    @the DRS,

    I really did enjoy the Led Zeppelin number, partly because they have always been one of my favorite groups.

    But I take offense at the last picture and the anti- c h r i s t i a n message.

    Because of that, I could never promote the video.

  406. By ozzinator on Feb 4, 2012 | Reply

    Would never dis you Titus………you have all my respect…..was just saying that next to Rocksalt, nobody is angry. :)

  407. By Rocksalt on Feb 4, 2012 | Reply

    If the truth hurts Oz,,,,,so be it. Anger has been spewed constantly by the likes of Ruch Limbaugh and Bill O’Reilly.
    To say nothing of the slandering gossip and twisting the truth.

    Does it bother me when one of our soldiers in IraQ had to stand up to Chaney and remind him that even though his company was making profits off of the war, the soldiers needed the proper protective armor.
    YES
    Does it bother me that there were SIGNIFICANT voting irregularities in Bsuh election 1 and 2?
    YES
    Does it bother me that Bush led us to spend 6 trilliun $ on a war that produced no WMD?
    Does it bother me that right wing zealots have resorted to tactics such as racism, calling our president a muslim(to continue George’s fear campaign that all muslims are terrorists)
    YES
    Does it bother me that Bush was unresponsive to the Katrina disaster?
    YES
    Does it bother me that those on the far right still believe the nonsense that Obama is not a US citizen?
    YES

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