Wilf Ownership Group Seeking Clarity, Consistency In Naming Spielman GM

Posted by Mike Wobschall on January 4, 2012 – 7:36 am

From the moment the Wilf family purchased the Vikings, they made clear their desire and intention to bring championship-caliber football to Minnesota. Through back-to-back division titles, a NFC title game appearances, losing seasons and winning seasons, the Wilfs and the Vikings organization remain on that quest.

On Tuesday, the Wilfs made a significant adjustment to the Vikings organizational structure by naming Rick Spielman as the team’s GM. It’s a move the Wilfs believe will help the Vikings achieve their primary goal – winning Super Bowls.

“We gave a lot of thought to the whole process,” Vikings Owner/President Mark Wilf said. “But knowing Rick and his body of work, and working with him so closely over the years, we felt that he was the right person for this position. We’re very confident that he and Leslie together will bring us the goal that we and all the fans want – that’s championships.”

Spielman has been with the club since May of 2006 as VP of Player Personnel, with the responsibility of overseeing the club’s pro and college scouting departments. In his new role, though, Spielman’s charge is to oversee all football-related activities and operations as well as the pro and college scouting departments.

Coming off consecutive 6-10 and 3-13 seasons, the Wilfs felt a new protocol and method of operation was needed to put the team in position to succeed. There was no one or two events that transpired recently that prompted the Wilf ownership group to alter its organizational structure. Rather, the Wilfs surveyed the NFL landscape to see what has worked for other clubs and cross-referenced that with what they felt would work well in Minnesota.

“It was a process over several months, through the season,” Wilf said. “As we got toward the end of the year, and we feel going forward to the future, looking at what’s successful in the League, and what we need to do to get better, there needs to be more consistency, purpose and accountability that needs to be more clarified. I do think we have the right people, and we sat together as ownership and felt that this structure had to be clarified.”

“Most importantly,” Zygi Wilf added, “it’s a long-term solution for the franchise. As Mark said, we’ve been successful in the past, but we felt that for the long-term progress and success of the ballclub, that the model that existed for successful teams (around the NFL) is the model we would follow.”

Building and maintaining a successful organizational structure and model is nothing new for the Wilf family. Zygi Wilf leads an ownership group with the Vikings that closely mirrors the structure that has led the Wilf family to national prominence in their business ventures with Garden Homes Development, a nationwide leader in retail, commercial and private residential development.

“We wanted to take a hard look at how we can be better,” Wilf said. “And we wanted to establish a clear organizational structure, and a consistency and purpose moving forward. We feel this is the structure and the move we need to make to get better as a football team and win championships.”

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127 Responses to “Wilf Ownership Group Seeking Clarity, Consistency In Naming Spielman GM”

  1. By Garrett on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Oh boy, I am the first person to post a comment!!!

  2. By 61vikings on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    In there 50+ years of existence, the Vikings have made it to 9 NFC Championship games, most recently, in 2009, that gives Mr.Spielman until about 2014 or 2015 to build a championship caliber team!! Plenty of time to do so, but sooner would be better!! Rebuild the foundation of this team, which is your offense and defensive lines!! If you look at those teams that made it to the NFC Championship games, they all had great offensive and defensive lines!! Let’s go “old school” and back to the days of the great Viking teams of the “70′s and build an outdoor stadium and build a rock solid defense, so we can have an identity to this team, something we haven’t had in a long time!!!!!!!!!

  3. By Carl K on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Today is a new day and Mr. Spielman has my full support. Congratulations and good luck.

    Please don’t go crazy and pay a king’s ransom to a free agent WR and leave Percy Harvin holding his socks.


    I am learning from you Frederick!

  4. By Carl K on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    DeSean Jackson, Vincent Jackson or Marques Colston are great players but Percy is SPECIAL and worth just as much!!!!!!!!!!!!

  5. By BJ on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    First order of business is we need a new coach. A proven winner and that man is Brian Billick. Secondly, it is an insult to Joe Webb, a 2nd year player to sit back and allow Ponder, a rookie to take over the position. Webb creates more excitement and is more athletic.

  6. By Frederick Jones on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    ESPN First Take….



    “It’s all about the Quarterback” This morning 99.9% of the talk was about the QB!!!


    It’s no wonder many of our bloggers only want to talk about the “skill position” players. They literally think, that’s all that matters because they have been

    If it is really “ALL ABOUT THE QUARTERBACK” like they say, then I’m looking for a good show about sleep. Seriously.

    But I can see how some get HOOKED into believing THE LIE we constantly see on TV.

    I may have to repeat this post every month. So sorry.

  7. By Frederick Jones on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Spielman is a good choice in that, either he’ll do a bad job so we can fire him, or he’ll do a good job, and we’ll be back on track.

    Rick, turn off ESPN, Fox, CBS, or whatever Quarterback show you are watching, and FIND SOME GOOD OFFENSIVE LINEMEN AND DEFENSIVE BACKS!!!

  8. By Frederick Jones on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply


    Like you I also back Webb over Ponder.

    The Vikings are unlikely to hire a new coach now, although there is still a slight chance this could happen.

    Do you think that Leslie Frazier is the problem with the Vikings?

  9. By David P on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    The vikings do not need to address the QB position. They need to address the lack of good play calling, the OL and the WR position. Now since we have 2 RB’s that have had or will have knee surgery. My hopde is though that they do not select a RB in the first round. OL should be the choice at #3 but all we can do is hold our breath.

  10. By David P on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Since the 2 RB’s have had or may need knee surgery I hope the vikings do not draft a RB. If one is needed please us FA.

  11. By NorthwoodsVikesFan on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    You may have to repeat it more often than that, Mr. Jones. People just can’t understand that you have to build a foundation and walls BEFORE you put up the roof. If we don’t fix the O-line first, it doesn’t matter WHO drops back to pass, or WHAT receiver “stretches the field.”

  12. By DRS on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Mr. Rick Spielman, please look at fixing the Defense as your first priority, then look at the Offensive line man, get some protection for the QB’s!!!! I suggest you look long and hard at your coaches as well. Would be nice if you were to come on this blog and correspond with us, now saying that there will be a lot of mock Rick Spielman’s to blog from this point on.

    Minnesota now is the time to get the new stadium built, do this be for there is a LA Vikings.

  13. By Frederick Jones on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply


    I think this team took two steps backwards after the 2010 season when they refused to make any major moves to fix the porously poor OFFENSIVE LINE.

    Just because the major networks never talk about individual offensive linemen, it does not mean that it is unimportant.

    It is believable that RICK SPIELMAN was brain washed into believing “It’s all about the quarterback.”

    It scares me that HE still believes this LIE.

  14. By Frederick Jones on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply


    Yes, it will be difficult for RICK SPIELMAN, RICK SPIELMAN, RICK SPIELMAN, to fix both the offensive line and defensive backfield in the same year, even using all three sources (draft, free agency, trades).

    Your prediction of people coming on here imitating Rick Spielman is timely!

  15. By sandiamond on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Spielman “take one for the team” and FIND A GOOD OFFENSIVE LINEMEN !!

  16. By Frederick Jones on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply


    Sometimes I go crazy trying to get people to realize just what you said about the Offensive Line and it’s effect on the rest of the offense.

    They say that Peyton Manning would have won ten games in Indy this year. The fact they released Charlie Johnson to us may have been a clue of how bad their line was this year. Johnson was Manning’s most valuable pass blocker.

  17. By Frederick Jones on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    FOOTBALL used to be PLAYED IN THE TRENCHES. I suggest that it still is! lol

    Rick Spielman surely knows this ancient football fact. But he likes all the moving parts, and not the ENGINE!



    Let all the other positions go, NO, but these MUST be your priority areas!

  18. By NorthwoodsVikesFan on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Johnson wasn’t our best asset, but he also wasn’t the worst. Loadholt caused many more hurried throws, blown plays, and sacked QBs. He’s not quick or agile enough to play on the outside. I think we could transition him inside and utilise his strength there.

  19. By Viking33 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    I am happy that there is accountability in the organization.

    @ Frederick – I hear you on the QB thing, it is ridiculous. I especially note Ron Jaworski and his patented “Quarterback driven League” thing that everyone regurgitates over and over – Bleh!!

    I think the sexy pick at our #3 draft spot is Blackmon, the only problem with that is we don’t need sex appeal, we need some ugly, some Big Uglies!! If we get a solid LT in FA, then I say get Blackmon – if we don’t then I say Kalil is our choice and Reggie Wayne in FA would be good.

    I only bring up Blackmon because I think he is the perfect compliment to Harvin – he has the same type of rare skill set as Percy. He and Percy will put a lot of pressure on a Defense and with AP in the backfield…..that would make the defense defend the entire field and give us a very diverse offense. Also, he seems to have his head on straight, and for a WR that is a rare commodity for sure. That being said, Kalil also has a rare skill set also. A solid LT also makes the whole team better running and throwing.

  20. By DRS on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Frederick Jones, I know how there are bloggers on this blog that like to be anyone else then them self.

    Yes it will be hard to do, but I think it can be done, and should be attempted as soon as it can be done.

    My new/old cry is for Minnesota to get a new stadium and a defense with some O-Lineman.

  21. By Frederick Jones on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply


    Yes, Yes, Yes….Speilman, take one for the team and select the BORING

    Chuck Noll (4 SB wins with Pittsburgh) said that the OL and DBs are the
    core of any football team because they work so hard for so little glory.

  22. By DRS on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    #1 need New Stadium
    #2 need Defense
    #3 need O-Linemen
    #4 need Coaches that know the game

  23. By Frederick Jones on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply


    I have always felt that your posts are a breath of fresh air. I’d like to see you blog more often.

    I’m not totally against drafting a RB, WR, LB in the first round, but if the Vikings do that, THEY HAD BETTER have their rears covered in the other areas.

    If we push and push for OLs and DBs in the first round…maybe Speilman will actually pick one or two in the first three rounds. We ask for a lot…maybe we will get something.

  24. By DRS on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Got to go now, have agreat day everyone,bye.

  25. By Frederick Jones on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Yet…I would be happiest to see 3 need players (OLs and DBs) selected in the first three rounds!!!

  26. By Frederick Jones on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    This was posted by 61Vikings. He says it pretty well, football is indeed played in the trenches:

    In there 50+ years of existence, the Vikings have made it to 9 NFC Championship games, most recently, in 2009, that gives Mr.Spielman until about 2014 or 2015 to build a championship caliber team!! Plenty of time to do so, but sooner would be better!! Rebuild the foundation of this team, which is your offense and defensive lines!! If you look at those teams that made it to the NFC Championship games, they all had great offensive and defensive lines!! Let’s go “old school” and back to the days of the great Viking teams of the “70′s and build an outdoor stadium and build a rock solid defense, so we can have an identity to this team, something we haven’t had in a long time!!!!!!!!!

  27. By Carl K on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Resign Percy Harvin to a long term deal before it becomes an issue!
    Treat your own players right and they will want to play!

    Sign FA WR Marque Colston and safety Tyvon Branch
    Draft Matt Kalil OT in round 1
    Draft Chase Minnifield or best corner in round 2
    Round 3 to 7 – best available player

  28. By Viking33 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    After listening to Spielman’s Press conference, I think I am a little excited about the future. It sounds like he is owning the promotion for sure, and that is a good thing. Of course, being driven has never been an issue for Spielman, he has always been that I think, the difference is now he is the Driver. That is what excites me, we have a Viking’s Bus Driver now!! We will see how savvy he is with the upcoming draft for sure.

    The #3 draft pick is good, but does it warrant trading it away? With Luck and RG3 in the draft and so many teams vying for a QB, things may be interesting. Depending on what Indy and St Louis are going to do I guess depends a lot on what we will do here. I would play what we want to do close to the vest, but also make other teams nervous with a “we will take the best player available no matter the position” quote out there. You never know what offer will come from another team looking to move up if they aren’t sure what you are going to do – BE UNPREDICTABLE!!

  29. By OTKalil2012 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    No way would I pick up DeSean Jackson..The guy is Berrian all over again…DeSean Jackson has been running scared in the secondary last season…Jackson had Aligator arms when was supposed to be playing well to get a long term contract ??????…D Jack is a player who is prime to shut it down after getting his money…Heck…He shut it down already this past season before getting his money !!!…Vikes need to stay a million miles away from either Jackson…V Jack is injury prone…I like the Reggie Wayne suggestion someone had earlier…But not for a huge contract…But a decent 3 or 4 yr contract with Wayne or Colston could work out well for the Vikes…Going through the draft is how to build a championship team….Vikings need to get young quickly…Out with the old…In with the young,smart,strong players and a desire learn too win…I personally hope to see 30 new players on the Vikings roster next season…And maybe only 3 free agent veteran players being brought in within that 30 players…

  30. By Carl K on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Developing a young QB with a rookie WR like Blackmon is appealling but when you throw in a somewhat new and unproven staff and system… I am not sure if that spell success. Some risk!

    A franchise LT like Matt Kalil is a sure thing. No risk!

    Resign Harvin and sign a veteran FA WR to help develop Ponder!

  31. By Parody on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    The decision to sign Spielman is going to be graded heavily on what he does in this year’s draft. If Kalil is still available, it should be a no-brainer to take him in the first. Everybody and their goldfish that was just eaten by the cat knows that we don’t have a prayer if we don’t improve the OLine, and that Kalil is as promising of a prospect as Luck is at their respective positions.

    If Kalil is already gone, the choice gets more interesting. Other players that we should pick are not high enough value to take with the #3, and RG3 has been getting enough press recently, that a trade will be essential. The most likely trade prospects appear to be Miami and Seattle, which would move us back to pick 9 or 11, which is still plenty high enough to get a quality LT. Then the big questions come in what we get out of the trade, and how we spend our 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks. If they’re not used to get DBs, a WR and some more help for the offensive or defensive line (nose tackle) then Spielman’s questionable decision making becomes more obvious.

    Hopefully the Wilfs are giving him a short leash to work with.

  32. By Parody on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    About the #1 WR…we may not have as big of a need there as most people think. Before his injury, I thought Jenkins was showing promise that he could hold his own in the position, however he wasn’t as flashy an option as most people would like. I think that an improved offensive line will give him enough time to get open on a more consistent basis, and allow the team to wait one extra year to get a replacement for him, while spending this year’s draft on the more pressing needs of OL and DB.

  33. By Viking33 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    I second the sentiment from OTKalil2012 – DeSean Jackson can cry on someone else’s team and destroy their morale from within. Talent he has for sure, but all the talent doesn’t help when you have a ten cent head!

    I am listening to ESPN and wondering how all that Humble Tebow Pie is tasting for all these so called “experts”? But they just cannot admit that Tebow is not the annointed one just yet as they are turning on John Fox and the Elway…..blaming them for Tebow’s last three horrid losses. It will be interesting to watch this unfold in Denver. The Media hitched it’s wagon to Tebow, because of the massive fan support he has, I would never want the Media Wagon hitched up to my young QB, too much pressure. I like Tebow’s heart and desire, but I think unfairly the expectations will crumble this kid the end.

  34. By OTKalil2012 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    I truely like Tebow…He is a woderful person…Great strength as a person in every category…But totally question his chances of being even an average QB in the NFL ???…Tebow’s long throwing motion is going to get him killed…It doesn’t hatter how well Tebow can run the ball..Or even hid ability extend plays…I do wish the young man well…But just can’t see him having a future playing QB…

  35. By Mike B. on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    The Wilfs can’t translate their success in business to their success in football operation. It’s an apple to oranges comparison. Picking someone from within the organization puts blinders on what’s happening within. We need a GM to come in from the outside and evaluate what is going on inside. Wilfs could have made a requirement to keep Frazier. Spielman is a mistake and it may cost us next year.

  36. By Mike B. on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    It obvious to me they are more concerned with the stadium deal and saving a buck than trying to fix the organization.

  37. By OTKalil2012 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    I think Zygi made the only decision that made sense for next season…It would be unfair to expect Frazier to have put a true contending team together this last season without an off season to work with because of the CBA…There was no off season last year to evaluate talent…On the other hand…Frazier made some quick judgements out of neccessity on his part in bringing in McNabb and keeping Berrian around…A few decisions Spielman was most likely not all that happy with…Frazier did correct the McNabb and Berrian decisions…While being a little late…The corrections were made…Spielman now gets his chance to now run the show…Lets hope that will stop foolish over payed free agent signings…I believe it will…Frazier can now coach…Lets see how that turns out…Frazier and Spielman now have specific duties and job clarification…That is the way it should be…And both you can be sure of have only one more year to show major improvement in their specific jobs…Wilf has made a major stride with installing the correct chain of command at winter park….And will pay huge dividends in the future…Whether after next year Spielman or Frazier are a part of that structure…The full 2012 season will determine their job security going forward…”The triangle of authority” is dead….Long live the Vikings GM….Whoever that is after the 2012 season…Only fair to see what Spielman and Frazier can do with a normal off season and draft…I think Zygi and Mark Wilf have hit a home run no matter how the 2011 season ends up…Because now the chain of command is in place…And Spielman and Frazier both have to make this work…Or most likely both will be moving on…The pressure is on both from here on out to preform…

  38. By Parody on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Some unfrequently mentioned positions that we need to consider moving into next year:

    TE – Kleinsasser is retiring and Berrian’s contract is up. Although I like Berrian, I don’t think he’ll be worth his asking price, so we’ll want to find at least one more guy to step in to help, primarily with run blocking as Rudolph will be the receiving TE.

    G – Herrera and Hutchinson’s contracts are up at the end of next year. Both players are in their 30s and are proving to be injury prone, so not worth resigning. If we don’t have their replacements on the roster now, we need to add them this offseason. Bringing in a LT like Kalil could be enough to help out a bit, pushing Charlie Johnson over to the right and moving Loadholt in to Guard, but we still need to have at least one more starter ready to go by 2013.

    DT – I’ve mentioned this one a few times before, but I don’t see many other people talking about it. Evans and Guion have both completed their current contracts, Ayodele has shown he is not the answer, and Ballard has yet to impress me. That leaves us with Kevin WIlliams as the only good DT on the roster, and he’s getting older. If we’re going to stick to the 4-3 defense, we need to find some strong young mammoths to plug the middle of the field.

    LB – The Hendersons’ contracts have both expired, and Onatolu is on the way out as well. I don’t think it’s worth the price to bring Onatolu back, but I wouldn’t mind giving the Hendersons both new contracts. Although we’ll still need somebody on the line ready to replace E.J. Jasper Brinkley looked like a promising option, but I’m not so certain now that his injury has kept him off the field for the entire year.

    K – Another one that I’ve mentioned, but gets ignored. Longwell doesn’t appear to have good enough leg strength anymore, so we need to be actively searching for a replacement. It looks like his contract goes through 2014, but it’s still worth at least looking for someone who can threaten him for the job.

    Other more obvious areas are OT, CB, S and WR. That makes for a lot of work for Spielman and his staff next year. I have my doubts about his abilities to handle this, but I can only hope that he will prove me wrong.

  39. By Mike B. on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    @Parody you mean Shank not Berrian

  40. By Parody on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Wow – Collossal Fail in my last post. Somehow I replaced Shiancoe’s name with Berrian’s. My greatest apologies to all Vikings fans for that massive blunder.

  41. By Parody on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Yes Mike, I realized that just after I reviewed my post. I’m about to stick my head in the oven now.

  42. By TITANIUM TITUS on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    I thought I was in twilight zone, wondering did I miss something– like is Berrian still on the payroll like Chilly. Thanks for clarifying– I thought I needed a triple espresso.

  43. By Parody on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    ^- I was cooking it in the microwave before, and that obviously appears to have been the wrong decision.

  44. By Mike B. on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    @Parody Loadholt should remain at RT or replaced Johnson is probably a mroe natural guard. I would allso look at replacing him too. LT and RG is a crucial need. LG is a future need and if Loadholt can’t do it RT is a future need. Sully is average a center, but that might be ok.

  45. By Mike B. on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    sorry for the typos

  46. By Mike B. on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    I think Ballard needs to be in the mix to try for that DT position the rest are backups at best.

  47. By OTKalil2012 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    @Parody…I blieve you were thinking Shiancoe and writing Berrian in your TE evaluations…which I thought were pretty much “spot on” in all categories…Spielman does have a ton of work to do…really liked your off season plan….

  48. By Parody on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    You may be right Mike. I’m not very knowledgeable about offensive lines, but I get the impression that the LT is almost always a better player than the RT on most teams, so it leads me to conclude that it would improve both players’ production if they each stepped down a notch to a position that requires a little less skill to be successful.

  49. By Mike B. on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    The secondary is a mess filled with backup players and no starters and Winfield is getting on in years. Griffen/Cook are question marks. Rest i wouldn’t give a dime for. Sherels is a special teamer and a good one.

  50. By OTKalil2012 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Frazier is not using a very forgiving tone while talking to the media about Cook’s future on the Vikings roster next season…I think Cook will be traded…Or handed his walking papers…

  51. By Viking Joe on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    The O-Line should be the area of utmost impotance, it would be great to get a stud WR, but if the QB doesn’t have time then it’s pointless.

  52. By OTKalil2012 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    I think the only reason Cook hasn’t been released already is the fact if he does not see any jail time…The Vikings could trade him and Cook may have some value there…If Cook goes to jail going into or beyond the next regular season..I think .they will just give him his release papers…

  53. By Parody on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Miek B – I have to disagree a little with your analysis of the defensive secondary. While they were our defense’s greatest weakness last year, I see more potential there that you give credit to. Mistral Raymond and Brandon Burton are both late picks from the most recent draft, and deserve at least one or two more years to show if they can grow into the positions. Meanwhile, I was impressed with Sanford in the last game of the year, as he was able to jump a couple of throws and almost get the INT, while also picking up a fumble. Obviously his hands are suspect, but that seems to be the case with all of our DBs; at least he showed that he was able to get between the receiver and ball every now and then. He’s still young and deserves a little more time to show he can produce at the position.

    With that said, I think that all the DBs need is one quality addition, through the draft or free agency, coupled with a little restructuring, and they could greatly improve their performance next year. But in all fairness, that supposition is based on the hope that Cook is allowed to return to the game next year.

  54. By Carl K on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Ballard needs to be in the mix – agreed
    Hendersons need to be resigned – agreed

    Charle Johnson LG (if Hutch hangs it up and calls it a career)
    Berger or Fusco to replace Herrera.
    Open competition for RT
    Pat Brown – He has been working hard and looking good in preseason last 2 years.
    and D Love

  55. By Mike B. on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    The defensive secondary can’t tackle that’s why I put the worthless tag on them and has been an issue all year. They consitantly give up first downs to maintain drives. Caused much of the second half let down.

  56. By Carl K on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Pat Brown was active over D Love most of the year.
    Pat is a free agent and if he is resigned… he will have a bigger contract and more will be expected from him.

  57. By vikesince69 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    What did this team really accomplish in 2011?? For starters they managed to play thier way out of the first overall pick in the draftby winning two meaningless games (carolina and washington)! (way to go Coach) Secondly it took them six weeks to figure out Mcnabb was washed up (another stroke of brialliancy) Finally they managed to severely damage the confidence of their future QB in their future franchise QB and have started a the ole QB controversy up again! (listen folks JW is not the future QB so just live with it) I cant hardly wait for 2012! How bout the rest of you purple fans???

  58. By OTKalil2012 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Because of Cook and the black eye he has left on the Vikings organization…I think that will reflect on where Spielman ranks WR Blackmon in this springs draft…Blackmon has some off the field actions following him into draft day…I bet he will fall down in the Vikings first round rankings because of that…Off the field problems are getting to common for players wearing purple jerseys…You can bet that is one reason Spielman has the GM promotion is to clean up that kind of thing…The only way I see Blackmon becoming a Viking…Is if the Vikings trade their number 3 pick and trade down…And happen to take Blackmon later around pick 7…If Blackmon should fall that far…Which isn’t likely at all…

  59. By OTKalil2012 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    While we are talking O-lineman…Lets not forget about Koorista…And how big the Vikings coaching staff was on him before he got injured…

  60. By Viking33 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    @ Parody – Shuler is the Tight End to replace Kleinsasser, I am happy they got him back, his strength is blocking not receiving. He had a lot of potential when we drafted him, before we lost him when we tried to sign him to our Practice Squad – good to get him back.

  61. By Viking33 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    @ OTkalil2012 – Ya I think you are right about Cook – they hope to get him in next year again, I think that is why they took the chance and kept him on the active roster the rest of the season. There is no chance they do that unless they have hopes to get him back for 2012. I give the kid a second chance, I don’t condone what he did though, if he is guilty of it that is. Cook and Raymond are a good young start in the DB area though, I think Mistral improved each game.

    I don’t have a clue what is going on with the rest of our draft last year though, and it has been a frustrating mystery most of the year. Love – Fusco – Dean – Reed are at the top of the mystery list. Fusco, we did get a glimpse of, and I think he did OK, but not enough to know for sure. Kooistra is a bit aged, word on him was he was declining in Cincy before he came here. RB’s King and Todman are not bad depth – hoping to get Toby and AP going with them and we should be ok there, Booker has shiftiness, but fumbled too much.

  62. By OTKalil2012 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Good point Viking 33…Shuler is a very good blocking TE…And the front office was very upset when he was lost to waivers earlier in his career…

  63. By Parody on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    OTKalil – Can you explain what issues Blackmon has off the field? I recall seeing a video on ESPN of him a few weeks back that indicated he was one of the rare types of WRs that did good things off the field. It was focused on his charity work, which included spending a lot of time with a young child fighting cancer, and dedicating his success to her.

    Obviously the video wouldn’t have delved into anything that he was doing wrong, but it made me feel a lot more confident in the type of character he would bring to the team, in comparison to Everson Griffin or Chris Cook.

  64. By Geiber on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Is Harvins contract up? We HAVE TO RESIGN HIM… He is our offense. The man can do anything, and he is spectacular at every position he plays. We need him more than we need AP.

  65. By Geiber on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Carl K so are you saying to keep Loadholt? He is junk.

  66. By Carl K on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Allen Riesner can play TE and fullback.

    I think we are ok at the TE

  67. By Geiber on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Never mind I got your post Carl.

  68. By OTKalil2012 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    @Vikings 33….I think they just decided to pay Cook for the rest of the season…So releasing him without “just cause” wouldn’t flare up more negative media involvement then what was already happening at the time…Remember he still hasn’t been found guilty of any crime…And the union might have filed papers against his release because of that….Better to just let the situation calm down and pay the guy for a few games…And see if he does time…If he doesn’t go to jail…I expect him to be traded…If he does…Vikings are not going to pay a guy for next season…While he is spending any amount of that season behind bars…I really can’t see any scenario Cook wears the purple again….Just hope the Vikings can at least get a draft choice for the dude…

  69. By Parody on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Geiber – Harvin’s contract expires after the 2013 season. I doubt it will receive much consideration this year. Generally, that’s the type of thing that’s settled early on in the final year of the contract, much like AP’s extension just before the 2011 season began.

    I wouldn’t worry about it until the end of September, 2013.

  70. By OTKalil2012 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    @Parody…I will try and find the article I read..It was sometime ago…But will do what I can to find it…

  71. By Viking33 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    I just saw a Ponder quote where is says that he was assured by GM Spielman yesterday that the Vikings won’t draft a QB in the 2012 draft…..? Why don’t we just let the league know now who our pick will be, can we just do that and remove all doubt that we can’t keep a secret at all?? Spielman should have explained to Ponder it may help the Vikings if others thought they may draft a QB. We may have assured that Kalil been there at #3 if teams thought we would take RG3, teams may have traded up to St Louis to get RG3 and landed us Kalil. Now St Louis may draft Kalil ( because they need him too ) – we are left holding the bag and who do we get now if no one thinks we will pull RG3 off the board. I know I might be making a mountain out of a mole hill, but it is little things like this that add up.

  72. By Viking33 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    @ OtKalil2012 – I hope you are wrong about Cook, if there is a shot he plays then I would like to see him have the chance to turn things around in Purple. I hope that Cook got a taste of what life would be like without Football and shape it up and have a good career here. No doubt the kid has talent, and I am a softy when it comes to second chances. I also hope that you find that article on Blackmon, because I have alse heard that he is a very anti-diva WR. I have heard from his QB and others on the team in interviews that he is also a complete team player. He is as electric as Harvin is, speaking of Harvin – please take care of this man.

  73. By Carl K on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    We have no choice. He is still under his rookie contract. We will pay more in the free agent market to replace him. A late round rookie is NOT going to take his job. (D Love couldn’t take his job)
    We have nobody on our roster other than Pat Brown or D love or Charlie Johnson.

    What plan do you have to replace him? Charle Johnson maybe… but I think Hutch is ready to retire. Do you want to spend the whole draft on Oline?

    This is Pat Brown’s second stint with the Vikings so I know they like him.

  74. By OTKalil2012 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    @ Parody….I guess it was only (what I would call) a minor offense…But he did get charged with a DUI….But as you said…Blackmon used that situation as a motivation to become more of a better person through volunteer work since then….I see nothing there should keep the young man from being a MN Viking…Glad you mentioned that about Blackmon….It will be awhile before I really dig deep into the draft….Glad to see Blackmon should still be on the Vikings radar…He is a great talent…

  75. By Parody on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Viking33 – Maybe it’s a different tactic than you want to see. Maybe the team realizes all the holes they need to fill and want some help in making that happen. Help in the form of more early draft picks.

    If teams know they don’t need to step in front of us to get RG3, they’ll be more comfortable waiting for the Rams to take Kalil, and then trading with us for the right to draft RG3 at a slightly cheaper price. Then we get a few draft picks and will have a better chance at putting the team back together.

  76. By Carl K on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Michael Jenkin will make 2.5 mil to Percy Harvin’s just under 1 mil.
    We paid Greg Camarillo 685 thousand last year to Percy’s 650 thousand
    Aromashudo even made more money than Percy.
    IF we bring in another free agent WR that makes more than Percy
    IT WILL GET UGLY!!!!!!!!
    85 reception this year for Percy! and we don’t want to pay him!

  77. By Parody on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    I just watched Jared Allen’s interview, and somehow he found a way to make me like him more. You could just see in his disposition that he would have been happier if the team had gotten to the playoffs than he is with his record setting performance this year. It’s solid proof that one guy can’t do it all, but if they all wanted it as much as Jared does, they would have played with much more passion and this season would have been much different.

  78. By Carl K on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    I realize that Percy is still in the middle of his rookie contract… but please this is just madness.
    We need to make it right by Percy!

  79. By purplegoldman on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    You don’t Build a system around a hand full of pro bowlers. You don’t build around individuals period, Because when your starters go down with injury your backup players can’t play at the same level, so the system will collapse on itself. You create a system and plug players into the system. This way you don’t need a bunch of pro bowlers, You just need a 52 man roster of above average players to exacute your system, This way your starters and backups are comproable to each other and when one goes down the other picks up where he left off. Thsi is how the Steelers , Cowboys and 49Ers became Dynasty’s in there time. They all built a Championship system. witch led to a team of pro bowlers that were probowlers in there teams system.

  80. By OTKalil2012 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    @Viking33…I agree…Why can’t Viking brass keep quiet on their draft day intentions !!!….I am happy Spielman feels that way though…Vikings can’t lose this April…Luck will go number one overall…Rams might take Kalil or trade the pick so another team can draft RG III…If the Vikes get a shot at Kalil…They should draft him…If RG III and Kalil happen to be available at 3….Things get really crazy…Then the Vikes could trade the 3 pick too the Browns so they make sure they get RG III…Vikings make the next pick and still get Kalil…And most likely the Browns second first round pick…If Blackmon goes somewhere in the first 2 picks…The draft gets wild from that point on…And the Vikes could rule the draft at that point…

  81. By Parody on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Carl, Chill! Percy is in his rookie contract. He is a hard worker, and model citizen. He knows that the team will take care of him when they need to. That time is still over a year away. AP waited, participated through his contract negotiations and was rewarded with the biggest contract ever given to a RB. I am certain that Percy knows the team will treat him in much the same way. For now, we should all be happy that his salary is helping us to keep a great player at a bargain price for one last year, giving the team more cap space to bring in other players to take the pressure off.

  82. By purplegoldman on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    The reason they havent released Cook is that he may be found innocent . in witch case he will be back, Good. If found guilty they will release him , but they will recieve a supplemantal draft for him from the NFL. If they release him now before the verdict they lose the supp draft pick period. So now you no.

  83. By OTKalil2012 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Another point is if the Colts do decide to bring Manning back next season (and is that decision all that foolish)…If they pay his bonus in March…Things get crazy…Peyton will need protection…And the Colts will need a WR with Reggie Wayne most likely going to be a cap casualty…Will Manning be pushing to get Blackmon in the draft if the Colts decide to keep the veteran QB ???….This off season will have the Vikings smack dab in the middle of all draft scenarios this off season…It should be a blast !!!

  84. By Parody on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Kalil – I doubt the Browns will trade the #4 and Atlanta’s (#21-32 depending on how they finish the post season) just to move up one spot in the draft. It’s questionable that they even have a QB on their radar this early. McCoy hasn’t been great, but he’s only in his second year. I think it’s too early to pull the trigger on him yet, especially at the price you’re suggesting.

    However, it is helpful that the Browns are at least considering the possibility of drafting a QB with the 4th pick in the draft. It could make other QB needy teams, such as Washington, Miami and Seattle more anxious to trade with us so that they can get him before the Browns have a chance.

    I’d only want this trade if Kalil is off the board though. Our need at LT is too large to let a player of his calibur pass us by.

  85. By Carl K on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    @ Parody- I understand… but with Greenway and AP the Vikings were not bringing in lesser talented FA at the same postion and paying them more!

    I will stand on my postion that this IS NOT RIGHT and we should do the right thing by Percy. BUILD AROUND PERCY.

    I can only hope Percy is a bigger man than I am because I wouldn’t put up with it.

  86. By Parody on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    According to a draft value chart I found about a year ago, even if the the Falcons win the Super Bowl, Cleveland’s two first round picks (#4 and #32 in this scenario) would be worth about 10% more than our single first round pick. The Browns would have to be pretty desperate to make that move, and I really don’t think that’s the case. They have other holes to fill, and they’re much more likely to be content riding it out with McCoy for one more year while they use the draft to solidify other positions on the team.

  87. By Viking33 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Hmm – if the Colts don’t take Luck #1 then I think they trade down and help their team with more picks. If Luck doesn’t go in the #1 spot somehow to someone I would be shocked for sure. The media and all experts have pushed this kid so much, that if anyone p a s s e s on him they will be barbecued with scrutiny. If I were the Colts, and Manning comes back, I would trade the pick. They have as many if not more needs than we do, same goes for St Louis. Luck and RG3 will be too highly coveted I think not to go #1 and #2 – but I am usually wrong about this stuff in the end and someone will usually try and outsmart themselves before the draft starts, I just hope that isn’t the Vikes.

  88. By Parody on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Carl – I am certain Percy is okay with it. He knows he will get his due compensation when the time comes. One of the things that the players were fighting for is higher mandatory salaries for players who have been around the league longer. It’s just the way that the system works. If certain players don’t like it, they’re likely to hurt themselves by fighting it. Percy is smart enough to understand this and be patient. He knows that his payday is right around the corner.

  89. By OTKalil2012 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Parody…I too believe Kalil is worth his weight in gold to the Vikings future…But the way contracts are going so much more lower with the new CBA rules for rookie contracts…There are some very reliable draft bloggers predicting huge value for early picks…They are predicting the Colts would get a “minimum” of 3 number on draft picks for the rights to draft Luck first overall…And that the pick might draw up to as much as having a value of 5 first round draft picks to a team wanting to draft Luck…This sounds totally crazy at first glance…But not when you think of the new CBA rules…These high draft picks can be signed…Because of the CBA contract structure…Before a team wouldn’t be able to sign many high draft picks…Because cap space would not allow something like that….The draft will be a brand NEW experience starting this season….One I think that will surprise the fan base a great deal…And I expect a savvy and smart Spielman to fully take advantage of the system laid out by the CBA on rookie contracts…

  90. By Viking33 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Carl – I too hope they take care of Harvin, but when it is time to do so. The Vikings have set a good precedent by taking care of their players when the time comes. I think, if I remember correctly, AP got his deal done at the begiinning of the last year of his contract, I might be wrong. What message would it send to AP that they take care of Harvin now, but not him before his contract expired? This is a slippery slope for sure, I absolutely love Harvin and what he brings every game. You have to ask the question also the other way – can we “take care” of Phil Loadholt’s deal by paying him less for not being good?

  91. By VA Vike Fan on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply


  92. By Parody on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Kalil – It seems more likely to me that the reduced rookie salary I’d have to see how the rookie salary rule changed the way players are paid. I understand that the highest of the picks (top-5 selections) are likely to be the most impacted, coming in much cheaper than they used to, so making their draft value even better. But how does that compare to late first round picks? What kind of change in rookie wages (if any) do they experience? I still don’t think that any two first round picks will ever be used to move up one spot in the draft, unless it’s from the #2 pick to the #1.

  93. By Troutdaddy on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Harvin should be a given. Loadholt needs to move on. I am sorry to see Kleinsasser retire. I look back at his tenure with the Vikes and he had some amazing years, He was one of our leadering receivers at one point and could catch and rumble. I wish we could have seem more of that the last 2 years. I hope they can fill his spot with someone that bled purple and played with the intensity that he did.

  94. By Spence on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Trade Jared Allen. 22 sacks and the D was still atrocious. Hes not that valuable. We could get a good corner, safety, or linemen for him.

  95. By Carl K on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    I hope you are right Parody… I will trust your words.

  96. By sandiamond on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    “Fire in their belly” college draft player of the week: Justin Blackmon !!! 3td’s
    (sorry sammy ur just a freshman)

    runnerup: Brandin Boykin CB GA 2 td’s and a safety

    Last Week: Fletcher Cox DT

    runnerup: Jamell Fleming CB

  97. By sandiamond on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Orange Bowl west virgina vs clemson

    Fr WR Sammy Watkins personal fav wr in the country

    None other , catches the football like a nerf
    with no break in stride……… phenommmm

  98. By VegasVike on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    IS FRED JONES TO BLAME FOR EVERYONE RANTING IN ALL CAPS!?!? I THINK SO!!!! Just my two scents (that’s for you Titus)

  99. By Spence on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    We get it Carl. Ur jus spammin now

  100. By Alex on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Bold Predictions: Zygi comes to his senses and fires Spielman and Frazier, he hires Bill Polian who makes a deal with the Colts to take Peyton Manning then gets Tony Dungy to coach the Vikings, they win back to back Super Bowls in 2012 and 2013 and in 2014 they have a well trained QB in Ponder, set to repeat 3 Super Bowls thru 2020.

  101. By Twoodsnvikes on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Spielman will lead us to superbowls now that he is GM

  102. By Carl K on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Everyone else has been spamming lately so I thought it was my turn to

    Seeing Percy as our lowest paid WR makes me sick. But I guess I am the only one so I will hide under my rock.

    ok, ok, I know Percy makes more than S Burton.

  103. By Frederick Jones on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply


    I saw that preview as well about Sammy Watkins. It’s too bad you can’t draft him ahead of time.

  104. By Frederick Jones on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    @Carl K.,

    That’s too bad about Percy Harvin. But maybe he will stay hungry this way.

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  106. By chris on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    get rid of that idiot speiman hes responsible for some of the worst picks we need robert griffin ponder is an interception machine time to get a real qb

  107. By Mike R. on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    @ sandiamond

    Terrell Manning has declared for the draft….
    Thanx for the heads up on this guy :-)

  108. By 61vikings on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    @ Alex
    Nice dream!!!! I have the same dreams, more often than not!!!! Peyton Manning will be traded, but it will probably be to Washington or Miami!!! To costly to have both on your team, and Peyton is to much of a risk with his neck injury!! I hate to say it but his career may be over!! First ballot HOFamer!!!

  109. By 61vikings on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    @ Carl K
    Fret not young man, the Vikes will do the right thing and sign Percy to a long term deal!! They signed AP to a big deal, so Percy is next!! They know who there best players are!!!

  110. By sandiamond on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    Great news Mike R! now I can hope for a late round pick by the vikings or UFA if the other teams don’t see the tapes. His games leading up to the bowl were even more impressive…. go T. Manning!

  111. By K.C. on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    later rounds get marvin mccnutt WR from Iowa… good WR good size and great hands. He would be a great steal.

  112. By Frederick Jones on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    Yes you can find a diamond in the rough in rounds 6 and 7.

    But GREAT PLAYERS are more often found in the first two rounds.

    Encourage Spielman to draft OLs in the first two rounds or get a BLUE CHIP free agent.

    Otherwise the Vikings are doomed to 6-10 or worse again.

  113. By vikelifer on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    Rick Spielman,I’m happy you got the GM position.Now if you plan on keeping the job,then you need to listen to the fan base draft the core of the team OL and DB are what you need this year.You have done a great job bringing in playmakers AP, Harvin,my personal favorite on the defense Greenway yes I’m an IOWA Fan but he is a stud.Other than him you haven’t found a great player on D. I say you can get alot picking LSU corner a playmaker thats a db stud look to FA to address OL on a proven player a winner not a project or a washed up player IE..old.And look at Marvin McNutt if he is there in round #2 he’s not a burner but he gets open he has size and most important he catches the ball. Iowa also produces great OL players they are scattered all over the nfl they play for 12-14 years.Casey Wiegman

  114. By JFlay on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    Raymond is one of the better safeties we’ve had since letting Darren Sharper go. I think he shows promise. Cook showed promise before the legal troubles.

    Winfield probably has some seasons left as a slot DB.

    So many times this year the CBs and safeties looked like they had no communication whatsoever. CBs would pull off their guys completely (as part of their zone coverage) but the safeties would move after another guy, leaving someone wide open.

    If we got two CBs who could handle man to man all day (whether Cook comes back and we pick up another one in draft/free agency, or some other way), our defense would be vastly improved.

    Our defense needs to study the way the bears never allow players to get behind them. They might give up yards but when the field gets shorter, it gets much more difficult to move the ball (which is the whole philosophy of the Vikings defense, yet apparently their DBs don’t understand this concept).

    I think having a GM will free Frazier up to focus more on just coaching. He never seemed comfortable dealing with players.

    Fred Pagac should go most of all. The players obviously don’t respect him. Mike Singletary isn’t the answer either though.

    Remember the time when Mike Tomlin was DC? The whole time I thought “He should be our head coach” because of how he got the defense to show up every game.

    Defense needs emotion.

  115. By yang on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    good luck spielman its good to know you got the gm position. its great to hear you(wilf) are making changes, hopefully you guys fire the defensive cordinator what a terrible job he is doing and please work on our defense this year. should look into getting better cb’s then some db’s and lb’s and some help opposite of jared allen(what a beast)

  116. By Jim M on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    Why would you name Spielman GM based on his record when a winner like Jeff Fisher is available. Last years draft in my opinion was mostly a dud. I’m waiting to see how badly the Vikings draft this year. I want a success, but I don’t see it with this crew.

  117. By vikelifer on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    Good one JFlay do you or anybody else know what happened to Cook it seems to be all secret is he still on the team.I agree with what you had to say.I cant emphasize enough how they need to cover the pass alot could corrected by coaching cus our players looked lost too many wide open opponents.But the main problem is we cant protect our QB,if this problem doesnt get addressed we will never win.Do you hear that Spieman!!!!!!!

  118. By Jim M on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    Cook was arrested on a domestic assault, he finished the seaston on a paid leave. His future is in doubt because of his possible jail time after the trial. Right now Frazier is not counting him as part of the team.

  119. By Jim M on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    >Fred Pagac should go most of all. The players obviously don’t respect him. Mike Singletary isn’t the answer either though.<
    Apparently you haven't heard what Jared Allen had to say about Pagac.

  120. By Troutdaddy on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    I agree Jim- Pagac does not have the respect anymore. Singletary is still coming off of a bad job with the 49ers. I think the Vikes need to enfuse some new blood into the works. Sometimes it is easier to flush out the wound completely in order to speed up the healing process… Our Defense needs HEALING badly with a few exceptions obviously.

  121. By Jim M on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    Troutdaddy, you misread my post. Allen like Pagac and says he would fight to keep him. I believe also stated the defense in general likes Pagac. I agree with you about Singletary, why would you pick a loser like him?

  122. By chris on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    good luck being 3 and 13 every year. the wilfs should have gotten the colts g.m. or packers g.m. if they were smart. hiring frazer was a bad idea, he couldn’t coach a high school team and hes coaching an nfl one hahaha. another genius move the vikings made was the tampa 2 defense which is the worst move, interviewing raheem morris for the next defensive job thats another horrible move. speilman is a total nut if he thinks hes a good g.m. get rid of musgrave too the guy’s got the personality of a dead moth. enjoy hearing the same tough loss but were excited every year. whithin 100 years the vikings will go to a superbowl untill then, lets hope we start winning soon. the vikings are losing tons of fans too,

  123. By Puckertrucker on Jan 7, 2012 | Reply

    Mr. Spielman:

    Please get rid of Mr. Frazier, he has no fire in his belly and you cannot inspire fire in the belly of your Players if your coaches have none themselves, Frazier,Pagac, and Musgrave want to be the players friend first, and coach second. Players don’t need Coaches that are their friends because they will not listen to their friends they need coaches that will kick Butt if the players don’t listen to them the Coaches need to let the Players Know it’s their way or the highway.
    No ifs and or Buts coaches need players that are afraid of the harsh penalties that will befall them if they don’t listen to a good Hardnosed Coach, Like Brian Billick,Jon Gruden, or Tony Dungy,Iron Mike Ditka,
    or Denny Green. you need someone that knows how to win a SuperBowl Not a Philly wannabe Coach, I thought Mr. Frazier wouuld be a good coach last year but He Showed that he has no fire in his belly he dosen’t have the players fearing him. or his coaching staff the players on the Defense, said they didn’t listen to Pagac and that they played the way they wanted to anyway. You can’t run a RailRoad that way or a pro Football team either. so get a hint and hire yourself a real Fire and Ice coach before the Draft so you can build a great team.

    The Oneand Only PuckerTrucker!!!!!Skol Fans.

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