A Look At Top 10 Draft Order, What It Could Mean For Vikings

Posted by Mike Wobschall on January 3, 2012 – 8:11 am

We mentioned earlier this morning that the conclusion of the2011 regular season cements the identity of each team’s opponents for the 2012 season. The conclusion of the 2011 regular season also cements the positioning of most non-playoff qualifying teams for the 2012 NFL Draft.

While we still don’t know for certain the entire pool of draft-eligible players (the deadline for underclassmen to declare has not passed), and while we still have bowl games, all-star games, the NFL Scouting Combine and college and university pro days to get through, it’s still fun to take a look at how the early stages of the 1st round might transpire, especially when your team has a pick in the early stages.

Coming off a 3-13 season, the Vikings certainly do have a pick in the early stages of the draft. The Vikings hold the 3rd overall selection in the 1st round, putting them in great position to nab an elite player from this year’s class. And, at the risk of speculating too early, I believe the Vikings may also have great flexibility in terms being able to trade out of the 3rd spot to acquire more picks. Let’s take a look at the Top 10 and then I’ll explain what the Vikings might have going on…

1. Indianapolis
2. St. Louis
3. Minnesota
4. Cleveland
5. Tampa Bay
6. Washington
7. Jacksonville
8. Carolina
9. Miami
10. Buffalo

When you’re a 3-13 team, you obviously have enough holes in the roster where selecting 3rd overall will allow you to add an immediate impact player to the lineup. So if the Vikings stay at #3, they will get a tremendous player that will help right away regardless of what happens in front of them at #1 and #2. At the same time, when you’re a 3-13 team you obviously have enough holes where acquiring just one player in the Top 3 is not going to increase the entire team’s level of performance. So it might be wise to consider trading back into a later part of the 1st round in order to acquire more picks and fortify the roster with young talent.

More than perhaps any year we’ve seen in quite some time, I believe the Vikings could be in a great position to leverage a certain player at #3 against a few teams within the Top 10 to acquire a handsome package of picks while also still getting a Top 10-caliber player.

It might be foolish to get too far into the speculation when we’re still so far away from the draft, but suffice it to say that Baylor QB Robert Griffin III is whom I believe the Vikings could leverage against other teams to acquire more picks. Cleveland at #4, Washington at #6 and Miami at #9 being teams that could easily be interested in a player such as Griffin, the Vikings might have 3 trading partners with which to work. If either Washington or Miami deems Griffin III worthy of being their franchise QB, then they will likely need to jump ahead of Cleveland at #4 to get him. If the Browns view Griffin III in the same manner, then they will have to jump up 1 spot to the Vikings #3 positioning to ensure that they can select Griffin III instead of either Washington or Miami.

Again, it’s far too early to speculate much further into this possibility, but it’s the very first thing that came to my mind when I saw how the Top 10 shook out for the 2012 NFL Draft. The Vikings could take Griffin III themselves, or they could choose to stay at #3 and grab another player they covet and fear wouldn’t be available if they made a trade and moved back into the later stages of the Top 10.

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134 Responses to “A Look At Top 10 Draft Order, What It Could Mean For Vikings”

  1. By Derek on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    If they’re gonna trade the pick, please get a DB for the other team.

  2. By Carl on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    If the Vikings trade back and it happens to be Clevland #4 i would ask for there two 1st R picks nothing less. Washington #6 1st & 2nd R this year & 2nd or 3rd R pick next year. Miami #9 would probably have to give us 1st & 2nd R this year and 1st or 2nd R next year.

  3. By DC on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    If RGIII is worth the picks to others….then trade Ponder and be wise and pick RGIII….its a QB league, if you have a great one you win EVERY year, if you don’t you’ll be picking early again next year…ie see Indy, Pats, packers, saints….get the picture?

  4. By Gary on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    In addition to Cleveland, Washington, and Miami other opportunities for trading down partners with an interest in RG3 would include: Jacksonville, Buffalo, Seattle, Kansas City. Further QB seekers could be: Tampa, NY Jets, Denver and Oakland. Remember that the lower a teams pick the more they have to give to move up. Of course, if one of them trades up with St. Louis, Kalil will be there for the Vikes to pick or to trade out of for someone else to pick. Some team in need of a QB will sign Flynn as a free agent and that will drop them out of trade consideration (after chilling in GB, Miami might look good to Flynn). Seattle may want to trade out of round 1 this year and stockpile an extra pick or picks in 2013 to position themselves to get Barkley. Unfortunately with the EZ 2012 schedule, the Vikes may just be poised to win too many games in 2012 to be an attractive trading partner for their 2013 pick. Even if the Vikes do trade the #3 pick and get a top 10 pick in return, they could still trade down from that pick with a team not even mentioned here and add even more picks.

  5. By Jeff on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Our top 3 needs are OL, WR, & CB. Justin Blackmon would be available there but would rather trade & get picks. I don’t think we’d take a qb @ 3 anyway since we have Ponder

  6. By NWNorseman on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    I am all for trading down for more picks. I would prefer not to trade ourselves out of the running this year though. we have way too many voids we need to fill and fast. our O-line is old and damaged. or secondary is pathetic. its not one or 2 people that need to be replaced but whole squads. so I am all for trading our 3rd overall for a later first round plus an aditional pick or 2 later. but please for the love of valhalla remember that 6 4th round picks is useless when you need someone that can start yesterday.

  7. By Gary on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Trade down with Washington: They Get #3, Vikes get #6, #38 (2nd), & #102 (4th). Or instead of #102 take their #113 (through Oakland) and call it even for what we owe them for McNabb.

  8. By PurpleReign28 on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    I wouldn’t trade Ponder. Just think how much we could get if we trade down just a few positions. Maybe two first round picks? Maybe multiple picks if not two first rounders. How about a good CB from WAS or MIA, and there first and second round picks this year.
    If I was one of those teams, I would give that much for a franchise QB easily.

  9. By Gary on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    THEN: Trade down further in round 1: (Pending playoff results)
    Cincinati gets #6, #99 & Vikes get #17, #23 BUT Cincinatti may trade with Tampa for pick #5.
    New England gets #6, #131 & Vikes get # 29, #31, # 49

  10. By troy on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    we need blackmon, end of story

  11. By alvin on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    and what if cleveland simply opt to trade with st. louis instead? with Griffin gone at number two, Vikings should pounce on OT Kalill or Morris Claiborne CB….no brainer here.

  12. By Jesse on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    I think they should trade down. Make a deal with Cleveland and get their two 1st round picks. They could also make a deal with Washington and acquire their 1st and 2nd round picks and a DB from their team. Whatever we end up doing I think we need to take Justin Blackmon, he’s a playmaker and could help us by making big plays and would also take defenders off Harvin and the rest of our receiving core and open them up.

  13. By Nordsman on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    The team needs secondary help and wide receivers. It has the QB´s to make it happen.

  14. By Dionte on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    I’m all for trading picks but I don’t think we should do it just for the sake of doing it . Trade back if they believe we can still get khalil , blackmon , or Claiborne . If not stay at #3 get one of them and work from there

  15. By hognuts on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    1. Kalil
    2. Trade down for picks
    3. Claiborne
    4. Blackmon

  16. By hognuts on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    That’s what the order of importance is

  17. By Rudso on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Carl, if the Vikings trade with Cleveland for their 4th overall pick, the value in trading 3rd overall for the 4th overall is only 400 points (2,200 – 1,800). Clevelands 2nd round pick is worth 540 points so I highly doubt they will give up 2 1st round picks. But even if we just get their 2nd round pick for this trade, that would already make it worth it (unless were getting a bigger offer from some other team). Who cares if they take RGIII, were next in line anyways so we get whom ever we would of got sitting at #3 plus an EXTRA early 2nd round pick.

    I would be happy if the Vikings just take the next best player available. The Top 5 picks will include Andrew Luck, Matt Kalil, Justin Blackmon, and Morris Claiborne. Maybe the top DT or DE will also go in the Top 5.

    We can assume Luck is going first, if not to the Colts, they will trade that pick to someone that will pick Luck. Rams can either go LT or WR so Kalil or Blackmon for them. Vikings can go either LT, WR, or CB. Depending which way the Rams go, not only can we still fill one of our needs but we will have a choice on which need.

  18. By max on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    well. i say draft matt kalil out of usc. we need a better offensive line and hes the guy to make it happen. also we should get a new shutdown defewnsive back. there is the corner back out of lsu. and finally a huge deepthreat wide reciver becuase percy cant do it on his own. justin blackmon.

  19. By Brandon on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Ponder is obviously a project qb… Deal him and get a franchise qb and join the race NFC North… We need to set ourself up for the next ten years…

  20. By Brandon on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Agreed. This makes the most sence… Love it

  21. By Rudso on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    hognuts, I agree with your order of importance, LT > CB > WR but I don’t agree in the positioning of the players. If the Vikings stay at #3, I think that Blackmon is the next best player available compared to Claiborn. No doubt Claiborn will go top 10 but I don’t know if his worth the 3rd over all pick yet.

    His team mate Patrick Peterson was a bigger prospect coming out because of his extra return abilities and he was picked 5th overall but it’s to early to tell, maybe he is worth the pick.

    Either way, it’s going to be hard to mess up if the Vikings stay at #3 to pick their player.

  22. By Rick on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Cleveland is not going to trade with us. They pick directly after us, so if they trade, they aren’t moving ahead of anyone. It would be pointless for them. If we’re trading with anyone (which I’m in favor of) it’s going to be the Redskins or Dolphins.

  23. By AlbinoSnowman on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Kalil, Claiborne, or Blackmon. Justin Blackmon was incredible yesterday against Stanford, it was all heart that lead to production. And for the record, if we draft Jonathan Martin with the third pick I will lose it.

  24. By AlbinoSnowman on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    My ideal situation is to draft Kalil with the first pick

    trade up to get Janoris Jenkins or Dre Kirkpatrick if they slide a few picks

    Sign Reggie Wayne and Vincent Jackson in free agency

    and draft Chandler Harnish and Matt Wedige in the laaate rounds. (Gotta show love for NIU alums.)

  25. By WilliamBrasky on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Although I do feel that we need some sort of Defensive secondary help, I think that Griffen and Cook would be fine at CB if we throw out that garbage Tampa 2 defense, and switch to the 3-4. If possible, move Winfield to safety and that will get rid of one of our glaring holes there.

    We need some immediate OL and WR help. We need a LT that can hold down the blind side for years to come, so if Kalil is there, we need to jump all over that. If Rams take him with #2, then there is no doubt that we HAVE to move back and obtain more picks. I do feel that we could still grab Blackmon at 6, but if we move back any further I see the Jaguars taking him at 7 to give Gabbert a target.

    So by looking at the draft order this early, I personally think (if Kalil is gone at 3), try to trade down to Washington at 6, grab Blackmon there and try to take a OL later.

  26. By jv3rnon on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Draft Claiborne or trade the pick for a pro bowl DB

  27. By AlbinoSnowman on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    *Scott Wedige not Matt

    and before anyone suggests we pick up Cortland Finnegan, don’t. I will murder you if you do.

  28. By CaribooBill on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Given the uncertainty of drafting an unknown, I suggest that, if we trade down, we acquire a proven player, rather than more picks. Think about the acquisition of Jared Allen and how well that turned out.

  29. By Erik the Red on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    All I know, is that we should give Ponder and Webb a chance to start at QB still. I think if they have more weapons to work with, as in drafting an OL or WR in the first round, plus any additions in free agency, it could make them better off as players. While Ponder did not play the best, he has shown a lot of potential, and plenty of QB’s have not had good first NFL seasons, just look at Manning and Favre, plus who knows how many others. I’m excited for the draft, could be the start of something new and exciting for this team!

  30. By Buzz on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Cleveland will dare the VIkings to pick Griffin with that 3rd pick. Colts have Manning and the Rams have Bradford. When the VIkings pick Luck and Griffin could be available. How can the Vikings pass on the next elite QB?

  31. By Pete Busarac on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    If you want to use QB R Griffin as trade bait then possibly work it this way. Take Griffith in the first round and put it out there to other teams that Griffith will be traded for the best possible playern trade package from another team who wanted Griffith as franchise QB. That way you can get quality players in their prime for one player. The Vikings would acquire better talent with experience and in a larger quantity instead of one player move by switching draft positions. Is it the right thing to do. I would rather bring in players from other teams that have established themselves already in the pro game then to draft a player and hope he works out for the money and draft pick spot you chose him in. Griffin could net you a trade group that fills key positions on the OL, the receiving crew and the Defensive backs in just one trade. Then the rest of your picks can build the teams youth talent and there are free agents who can also be acquired to finish the process of making the Vikings a top contender for the NFC north next season. In other words drafting Griffin would be utilizing his talent to it’s entirety by trading him for a group of players from another team.

  32. By jhall on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    we also have to consider free agency. we can prob land a top notch WR because of how deep this free agent class is at that position. so, if Luck and Kalil are off the board, and we signed a WR in free agency (rules out drafting Blackmon), the only thing that makes sense is Claiborne.

  33. By Rudso on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    There is a good chance that the Rams go after Blackmon instead of Kalil for the 2nd over all pick. Yesterdays game really showed that Blackmon is possibly the next best WR in the NFL. He poses more WR skills than AJ Green and Green went 4th overall. There is no way Blackmon gets out of the top 5 area so you can forget about trading down and still pick him up.

    If the Vikings want Blackmon than they better take him at #3 because he wont slide past Cleavland at #4 (specially knowing they missed on Julio Jones last year). But I think the Rams go with Blackmon instead of Kalil because in 2009 the Rams spent a #2 overall pick on a OT.

  34. By Pete Busarac on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Here’s the other benefit of taking Griffin in the first round. You trade him for established talent from one team and don’t have to pay the big salary and signing bonus for your top pick next season which puts more money out there for resigning key players you want to keep or more money for signing key free agents available throughout the NFL.

  35. By Rogerthevikefan on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    @Rudso In 2009 the Rams took OT Justin Smith a BUST. So drafting Kalil for LT and moving Saffold to RT would allow them to drop Smith and get rid of his huge contract. Plus coach Sags and Bill Devany got fired and they drafted Smith.

  36. By Rogerthevikefan on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    So if Kalil is gone trade back with the Redskins or the Phins. If they trade back with the Skins they would get their 1st and 2nd and likely a 5th. The Vikes could then draft Claiborne with the 6th overall pick. 2nd round OT Mike Adams and WR Dwight Jones. Then in the 3rd round CB Cliff Harris. 4th round OT Andrew Datko. Compensatory 4th DT Jerel Worthy. The rest of the draft Safety help, a LB, and WR competion.

  37. By max on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    we need to let ponder practice and improve a lot over the offseason. he will comeback next year good. hes the qb of the future. this is why we need kalil to protect him and blackmon as a target.

  38. By Rogerthevikefan on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    If they trade back with the Dolphins then the Vikings would get their 1st and 2nd and maybe CB Davis(not sure of his first name but is 49ers TE Vernon Davis brother) then the Vikings could draft OT Riley Rieff in the 1st. CB Stephon Gilmore and WR Dwight Jones in the 2nd. S Robert Lester in the 3rd and OT Andrew Datko in the 4th. Draft WR, LB, and DLine Competion with the rest of the picks.

  39. By Darius Cox on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Go get Claiborne or Blackmon any other players are out of the question. WE have never had a dominant corner it’s time to start investing in some secondary. Claiborne is the next great mark my words go get him. If not we can go Blackmon and then possibly a Janoris Jenkins in the second round. For the record I never liked the Ponder pick, his days are numbered he was never even good at FSU. In my opinion lock out induced pick that may get Leslie’s job taken smh.

  40. By Rogerthevikefan on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Love, Fusco, and DeGeare can fight for LG and RG. DeGeare is built to be a RG while Love can play both OT and OG positions and Fusco is very angry and has potental he gives the Vikings OLine a physical rip your head of mentality.

  41. By David on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Of course Cleveland wouldn’t trade up one pick to take Griffin…unless…Miami, Washington, or another club is making a play for the Vikings’ pick. Then the Browns would be forced to move up. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a cascading trade scenario–trading down to four, then down once more in the top 10, still landing an elite player while amassing a bevy of additional picks.

  42. By David on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Beware of selecting a receiver in the top 10, no matter how spectacular he was in college or how “can’t miss” he might seem. The NFL roadside is littered with the corpses of top-10 receiver busts

  43. By hognuts on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Bernard Berrian can solve our WR’s woes!

  44. By vike0din on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    someone get braylon edwards, he is such a huge target, and practically free right now.

  45. By Puckertrucker on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    The Vikes Need Blackmon:

    After the Fiesta Bowl, it’s plain to see why we need to get Blackmon the guy is fast good receiver and has soft hands would be a great deep threat for the Vikings no matter who plays QB. Then get an offensive LT, and cornerbacks then linebackers.but you need a good WR if he’s availiable go get him first.

  46. By Gary on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    If Cleveland wants RG3 bad enough they will try to trade with the Rams to move up to #2, that way they freeze out any other team from trading with the Vikes and moving ahead of them at #3. If St Louis wants Blackmon anyway, they can still get him at #4: Luck, RG3, Kalil, Blackmon. That is unless somebody wants Blackmon badly enough to trade up with the Vikes at #3 so they can slip in and get him before the Rams. If so, the Rams take Kalil at #4.

  47. By byron viking fan on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    what if miami offers up either jake long or vontae davis plus their #1….whaddya think?

  48. By Gary on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Miami #1 & #2 plus one of the two players

  49. By Immureglass on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Im pretty sure if Miami was going to trade away their best Oline men or their best CB they would be looking for multiple first round draft picks themselves. I’m sure they wouldn’t give up either of them and their first round just for our first rounder.

  50. By David on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Just take the sure pick and get Blackman so we can move Harvin back inside where he should be. Then go safeties and offensive line in 2nd and 3rd rounds or maybe a corner as well. Those are the four areas that could lift Minnesota back to being an elite team

  51. By tony on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    i say get blackmon or trade back and get claiborne…if we dont get either…the draft will be a failure man.we need help at cb and wr…hope chris cook come back.that will help too.vikings for life..

  52. By jhall on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    getting Kalil is definately a dream scenario for us. we’ll hopefully have signed a free agent WR by the draft, so with drafting Kalil in the 1st we can still get a really good CB in the 2nd (Janoris Jenkins or Jonathan Banks)

  53. By tony on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    no @jhall for get lineman can get one in the second round first round we need wr or cb please (janoris jenkins) is going in the first round homie.

  54. By vman on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    What good is a stud WR, if Ponder doesn’t have time to throw? We need some Beast on OL…..Don’t forget about AP when will he be available….rb in later rounds? Alot of voids to fill.

  55. By lovefromminnesota on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    I say we go Justin Blackmon, Matt Kalil, or Morris Claiborne.

  56. By Rudso on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    This is going to be a long off season until the draft lol.

  57. By oSo on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    1. Trade up for Luck
    2. Draft Griffen

    We need a solid QB, anyone who says Ponder is the future better wait about 5-6 years. Then we may as well kiss AP and J Allen goodbye!

    3. Draft Kalil
    4. Trade back and draft secondary.

  58. By Mike Degen on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    We need to look at what teams are sucessfull in the league now. To me, New England and Green Bay are the teams you want to mimic. I say take Blackmon and then another stud in second round. Green Gay gives up 400 yards offense a week, but went 15-1. They make opponents outscore them, same can be said for New England. They are both tops seeds

  59. By Jayson Child on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    oSo, what makes you think that Ponder cant be a franchise QB? he had no real offseason to prepare and he still did some pretty good things. HE IS A ROOKIE! be patient man. With a full off season to prepare and learn the system better he WILL come out next season and show why he was a first round pick.

    If Matt Kalil is available at the third pick I think without question they MUST draft him. If the Rams take him, then we trade back (no more than 3 spots) because even at the #6 spot, Blackmon or Claiborne may still be available.

  60. By Vikes1fan on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    I recall the 98 team that went 15-1. They are similar to this year’s Packers. They can score alot of points, biut not strong on defense. I hope the team gets Ponder some weapons, my first choice is Blackmon. We can then get help up front and then some defensive secondary. I want to see us score 40 points a game and force opponents to score 41 to beat us. Seems to work for New England and Green Bay!!!

  61. By carl on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Alot will tell on free agency I think they will spend alot on wr vincent jackson or colston. that means no blackmon in draft.We may go after flynn for all quaterbacks to compete and develop ponder.Means no griffen.If this haappens I believe we will trade out get more picks and probably will get clayborne if cook comes back they will have corners .If we can get a good saftey free agency,draft or winfield I think our defense will be pretty good.With these moves.We should be able to up grade the areas we need with the rest of picks .This team would win 10 games next year with there schedule and up grades

  62. By Vikes1fan on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Free Agency is going to play a huge role on what they do with 3rd pick. If we can fill hole like WR and DB, we can then trade picks and get some talent to bulid on our depth charts. We all know it only takes or two injuries to key players to ruin your season, just ask the Bears

  63. By gubber on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Mike has it absolutely right. Cleveland, Washington, and Miami are our best trading partners. You don’t want to fall to far and not get what you need. It you move down Kalil won’t be there, but both Martin and Rieff are also very good tackles, and you don’t lose much in talent while picking up other picks in the second round. I’m still very much in favour of moving Jared when he’s at his most valuable to further increase the number of top end talent picks or proven talent through a trade. This year would like to have three or four of the top 45 or 50 draft choices and more if you move Jared. Can fill a lot of holes in a hurry if you play your cards right. Both Ballard and Griffen aren’t at this time Jared, but they both show enough promise platooning to both be given a chance to be starters.

  64. By Viking-ology on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    This will be an interesting draft-I hope the Vikes play it right. Trading down a few notches may not be a bad idea, there are three potential top 10 OT’s in the first round. They can still grab one and have alot more high draft picks.

  65. By Spence on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    We have 5 bad linemen. What is drafting one gonna do?

  66. By Immureglass on Jan 3, 2012 | Reply

    Spence- I see your point but you still have to start some where. You got to remember one is still better than none.

  67. By AP ALL Day on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    NOOOOOO!!! Keep Ponder a little more development and some linemen and WRs he willl be elite! Keep the #3 pick and draft Mathieu from LSU. He is a great Corner Back and would really help our secondary!!

  68. By greatirishpotatofamine on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    it looks to me like the rams are gonna get that trade for RG3 and we’re gonna be stuck with the 3rd pick.

  69. By Devin on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Justin Blackmon…easy choice

  70. By Carl K on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    @Devin- After watching him play I am beginning to warm up to Blackmon.

    If you go out and give Deshawn Jackson (or any FA WR) more money than Percy Harvin you will have problems in the locker room!!!!!!!

    A free agent WR could be very bad news if they don’t give Harvin the money he deserves. Harvin is still playing under his rookie contract!

    Alshon Jeffery will fall to the Vikings in the second round. Tommy Steeter and Dwight Jones will be guys that will look good at the combine and be solid 2nd rd picks. Ruben Randle, Nick Toon, Jeff Fuller and Marvin McNutt are guys that could be stars in the NFL. We must draft OT and WR first 2 picks. Best player available round 3

    No problems with free agent corners, safeties and LBs.


  71. By 61vikings on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    The Colts are in a really tough position because they already have a great QB, a HOF QB at that!! There’s no way they can afford both guys, so they will be trading there HOF QB or Luck and pretty much own the draft!! The Rams will take RG3 and deal Bradford to a team in need of a QB, because Bradford has not worked out!! That leaves the Vikes at 3 and Kalil,Blackmon and Claiborne starring them in the face!! We haven’t had a great LT since Gary Zimmerman!! We haven’t had a great wide receiver since the days of Carter & Moss and we’ve never had a great corner ever here in Minnesota!! All 3 guys could make an impact immediately here in Minny, so it’s going to be tough to make that pick and we all will be watching for sure!!!!!

  72. By Carl K on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Manning may never be able to play… NO WAY IN HEAVEN THE COLTS DON”T TAKE LUCK. Polian is gone! Change is happening in Indy.

  73. By JaketheSnake on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Yall watch out for the rams getting r lineman, if that happens then get blackmon or kirkpatrick.

  74. By JaketheSnake on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Bradford was sacked 36 times this year and he was hurt for most of the year i thing they will take r Olineman. So we really need to think about getting the wr or db.

  75. By Cj on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Guys we have Joe Webb who has already prooved himself and I believe is better than RG3 so we shouldnt even think about drafting RG3. Ponder deserves another shot and if he doesnt do well next year Webb will be ready. If Kalil is available TAKE HIM. He allowed 0 sacks this year protecting barkelys blind side. If Kalil isnt available They trade to cleveland and get two first rounders or miami and get a 1st 2nd, and 3rd. We are in a great spot and I believe spielman will get it done. We could end up with 4 possibly 5 starters out of this draft. If everything goes right this could be a great 2012 rebuilding season considering how easy our schedule is. SKOL BABY

  76. By snookman on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    i watched every viking game, some time u didnt know if there was any wide recivers on the field. no brainer get blackmon

  77. By Eon59 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    The Vikes need to fill holes, so they need to use the #3 to get additional picks. All of these early picks should be DB’s and offensive linemen.

  78. By Gary on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Cj = The NFL Draft Value chart doesn’t work for the Vikes to get BOTH Clevelands #1s in return for pick #3. See Rudso’s post from 01/03. Round 2 pick owned by Cleveland is valued at 540 – thats 140 over the value of swapping pick #3 and pick #4. Best Match would be Washington and we are already on the hook to them for something for McNabb. Could use the swap of first rounders to satisfy what is owed to them without losing any more picks & Redskins do have an extra 4th round pick.

  79. By Gary on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    61vikings= The Rams will either trade the pic, take Kalil or take Blackmon. They will give Bradford another year to prove or disprove himself and if a change of quarterbacks is to take place they will use the 2013 draft to take a replacement. IF Kalil is there for the Vikes at #3, they take him, if not, they trade down with somebody wanting RG3.

  80. By jhall on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    I think we have to sign a LT and WR in free agency.. We have no idea what the Rams will do with the 2nd pick. lets say, we sign a top notch WR in free agency and not a LT, thinking the rams will go with Blackmon and Kalil will fall to us, but insead the Rams take Kalil. if we address both needs ( LT,WR) in free agency, we won’t have to worry about that nightmare. and we can just draft CB Claiborne with the 3rd pick

  81. By Rudso on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Gary, I don’t think the Vikings gave up a lot of McNabb, I’m not 100% sure but I think it was like 2 6th round picks. So if the Vikings do trade 1st round picks with the Redskins, I would expect at least a couple of their low round picks.

    If not than the Viking should just stay where they are and lose the 6th round picks.

  82. By Rudso on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    jhall, the problem with finding a quality O-lineman in FA is there are non. When you need 5 of them, no team is stupid enough to let a quality lineman go. There aren’t a lot of guys who can shutdown some of the best pass rushers in the NFL for 60 minutes.

    If we’re lucky enough to have Kalil drop past the Rams, it’s a no brainer you take him. I would also like to see the Vikings drop back a couple of spots to possibly gain another 2nd/3rd/4th round pick but there has to be a team willing to make the trade. Blackmon is the next best player available, but it’s to early to tell.

  83. By Gary on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Rudso, Got that covered. see my proposal 10 slots above your response to Carl on 01/03: “Trade down with Washington: They Get #3, Vikes get #6, #38 (2nd), & #102 (4th). Or instead of #102 take their #113 (through Oakland) and call it even for what we owe them for McNabb”.

  84. By Gary on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Any idea what is coming from the Giants for Rosenfels and Reynaud? I believe we got a #5 in 2011 and a conditional pick in 2012.

  85. By Geiber on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Josh Morgan on the Niners, was out with leg injury this year, contract is up sign him.

  86. By Day on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    2.Trade Back
    We need help in the DB spot but we also need to protect our QB nd a vet WR. So i say Either go for Claiborne wit our 3rd pick or get a late 1st round nd take Dre thn 2nd round take a gud OL nd a S in da beginning of the round. Let Ponder nd Webb battle for da QB spot nd take a vet WR in a trade or when free agency opens up

  87. By jhall on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Rudso if we don’t find a way to address LT in FA and then come draft day the rams take kalil, we will be forced to reach for one in the 2nd round. the last thing we need is a “ok” rookie playing against Matthews, Suh, Peppers, etc.

  88. By Richard on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    1) There are plenty of FA the Vikings could target and the Wilfs had said that they will make a splash. For argument sake, let’s say they sign Dwayne Bowe, Tracy Porter, and Carl Nicks.
    2) The Rams will either trade back or take Kalil. For the purposes of this post, let’s say they trade out.
    3) Vikings take Matt Kalil (USC), Mark Barron (Alabama), Kevin Zeitler (UW), and Marvin McNutt in the first four rounds (optimistic on the last pick, I know).
    4) The starting line up looks like this

    WR1: Bowe
    WR2: Harvin
    WR3: McNutt/Aromashodu/Jenkins
    TE: Rudolph
    LT: Kalil
    LG: Nicks
    C: Sullivan
    RG: Zeitler
    RT: Loadholt
    RB: Peterson/Gerhart
    QB: Ponder/Webb

    RDE: Allen
    DT: Williams
    LDE: Griffen/Robison

    SLB: Greenway

    RCB: Cook
    LCB: Porter
    Nickel: Winfiled

    SS: Abdullah
    FS: Barron

    Not a bad start to a rebuilding process, eh?

  89. By jhall on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    I also feel like we really need to stay at 3rd overall. we need to add difference makers, and we are in a good position to get one.

  90. By ewill on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    I see us getting the depth at wide reciever via free agency so blackmon is out…i think we go after a big reciever in particular Vincent Jackson. Khalil is a great tackle BUT at number 3 the viking trade outta this spot and try and pick up that tackle outta Stanford….. we do have good corners on our squad inexperienced corner but with them getting shoved into action will go a long way next year…i think this draft we get a top talent at saftey, linebacker that can cover better, we will also be compensated for the departure of sidney rice and ray edwards so i think were gonna be alright next year

  91. By Richard on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply


    Martin is more of a RT prospect as he is more adept at run blocking. If the Rams trade out of #2 to a team looking to grab RGIII, there are no other players that teams will feel the need to trade up for.

  92. By Vikesfan on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    guys i bet you money (i cant give it to you anyways) that vikes will not draft qb. we dont need one we need to give ponder and webb a chance. and the colts will probably pick lkuck . and the rams i think will give up on sam bratford i dont know what his last name is. so they could draft RG3 but i think we should pick him and use him as bait. we need to draft morris cliaborne and kail to

  93. By Bigfan1 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    It’s interesting some of the moves GB has made over the years like in 2008 drafting Matt Flynn in the “7th” round and he was the offensive MVP in the BCS championship in which his team LSU won. Why in the world wasn’t he picked before the 7th is totally unbelievable. These are the kinds of picks the Vikings need to find, later round MVP type players. As much as I’d like to see the Vikes get Blackmon if Ponder is running for his life on every down a Blackmon won’t do us any good. Kalil is a no brainer pick, however they could also target an OT in the second round like Zebrie Sanders from Ponder’s alma mater. If they can get Sanders who is ranked the fourth best OT then getting Blackmon is a no brainer.

  94. By Bigfan1 on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    The Vikes have made some great picks over the years, AP #7 in 2007, Harvin #22 in 2009, Toby G. #19 in the 2nd 2010 (unreal he wasn’t taken earlier), Joe Webb 6th round, 2010, John Sullivan 6th round 2008, Rudolph 2nd round 2011, and the jury is out of Ponder.

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  96. By Gary on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    Richard = Really optimistic on all the picks after round 1. I’ve seen many mocks that have each of the next three going a round earlier than you have them going. IMO no need to sign a FA WR, SB someone there in round 3 and possibly early in round 4. Team can always trade up to get a specific player.

  97. By David on Jan 4, 2012 | Reply

    JUSTIN BLACKMON!!! would be an awesome pickup give ponder another weapon to work with and we were missing the deep threat without sidney rice and Justin would be that

  98. By Vikes fan in San Diego on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply


  99. By Dustin on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    WE need wide recievers and dbs, we need to do what ever we need to do to get those positions filled up. I believe we have our qb or qbs for the future. Dbs and recievers, maybe a couple deep threats for recievers…

  100. By Richard on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply


    I’ll agree with Barron and McNutt being optimistic, but Zeitler could very easily be there at the top of the third. But, to make things more palatable, let’s change the first four picks a smidgen.

    Kalil, Osemele (G, Iowa State), Lester (FS, Alabama), Criner (WR, Arizona)

    Team roster is as such:

    WR1: Bowe
    WR2: Harvin
    WR3: Jenkins/Aromashodu
    WR4: Criner
    TE1: Rudolph
    TE2: Spach
    LT: Kalil
    LG: Nicks
    C: Sullivan
    RG: Osemele
    RT: Loadholt
    RB: Gerhart/Peterson
    QB: Ponder/Webb

    LDE: Griffen/Robison
    DT: Williams
    RDE: Allen
    WLB: E. Henderson
    MLB: Brinkley
    SLB: Greenway
    RCB: Carr
    LCB: Cook
    Nickel: Winfield
    FS: Lester
    SS: Abdullah

    Again, if Peterson and Gerhart are marginally healthy, this is an 8-8 team.

  101. By Derek on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    Pick RG3, forget about ponder, look how using your legs did with Webb at QB, yeah Ponder has a better arm, but RG3 has both would be smart.

  102. By BleedingPurpleinAlaska! on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    Wow! I say Ponder is going to be a franchise QB and we need to stick with him. Webb is an excellent backup, so we should keep him too.
    I think we need to jump on Kalil if he is there and a lot of problems on offense will be solved. If he is not then trade down but not so far that we can’t get CB Claiborne or LT Martin. We need to address CB and LT in the draft. Then get a safety and number 1 WR in FA. A DT,guard, or center wouldn’t hurt either!

  103. By Richard on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply


    Yes, and he’d been less experienced and injured if we waste another top 12 pick on a qb instead of OL. RGIII to Minnesota is the stupidest thing I’ve heard this year.

  104. By jv3rnon on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    1st pick Claiborne
    2nd pick LT
    3rd pick DT
    4th pick WR
    5th pick SS
    7th pick G

    In FA pick a FS,1#CB to play with Cook, Winfield, and possibly Claiborne. OLB to play with EJ and Greenway. Let Hutch retire and move him Charlie to LG and get RG and LT. 1#WR

  105. By Mason on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    I really want RGIII im an OU fan and he tourched us and i dont want that to happen to me team in Nfl would make vikings so much more dynamic

  106. By charlie on Jan 5, 2012 | Reply

    Draft Robert Griffin III at pick number three and force the issue with the teams that want him. Once he’s a Viking property it won’t take long for the offers to come in.

  107. By pse1124 on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    What about Alshon Jeffery? He looks pretty good, over Blackmon if they decide to take a WR.

  108. By sandiamond on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

  109. By jeff on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    am i the only one who has my fingers crossed for payton manning to the vikings? its the classic vikings move. wait till a good qb is old and needs to be traded, then swoop in and offer em too much money. ie cunningham,moon,george,johnson, and most recent favre

  110. By Mark B on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    With the FA market so strong at WR, I can see the Vikes (if they address the position at all) grabbing one there – meaning no need to draft Blackmon. The obvious remaining choices are Kalil or (my pick if we draft #3) Claibourne.
    Trading back does pose some interesting propositions. Miami – and to a lesser extent Washington – would be salivating for that #3 slot if Indy takes luck and the Rams grab Kalil or Blackmon and that puts the Vikes in a great position to grab some more picks. I can see Claiboure slipping as far as 6th, so not a giant gamble moving back as long as they stay top 10.
    While Kalil is a great option at LT, remember this OL draft class is pretty deep, so there could be some late 1st/early 2nd round options available to grab that LT.

  111. By Mark B on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    I would also be considering a move at RT – Loadholdt can’t seem to play a game without at least one procedural penalty and it usually at the worst time possible. I can see Fusco, Love and Berger challenging for starting positions at RG, RT and LG respectivly. While ideally you would like to have a whole backup OL on the 53 man, with the flexibility some of our current OL have, we could have the starting 5, with someone who can play G/T and someone who can play T/G and be good with only 7 spots for the OL – freeing up spots for defensive front 7 depth and offensive weapons (freeing up Percy to be near full time KR/PR).

    Just my $0.02 …

  112. By Mark B on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    Do we have to carry 3 QBs? Really, think about it. We have a QB coach and a OC who has played the position behind some of the greats. No need to waste a 53 man spot on a guy who will ideally never see the field. We also go 4 deep at both RB (?) and TE (I can see this one – kind of), but only go 4 deep at WR – makes it hard to spread the field considering the lack of using AP in the passing game (big mistake imho). Can someone help me understand some of these roster decisions on a team that was starving for offensive firepower thru the season.

  113. By jcdogg on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    Mark B are you nuts, not carrying a third QB, have you seen what has happened to a number of NFL teams. Some are on their fourth QB. So it is ridiculous to say only carry two. Webb is good but since he runs way too much he is jeopardizing his health and could get hurt very easily, same with receivers and DB. We lost all of our starting and second string DBs. You also have to understand that entering the season we thought we had decent firepower, that proved to be false.

  114. By jcdogg on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply


  115. By jcdogg on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    Jeff, yes you are the only one hoping for that. As much as i like manning, it would be a monstrous mistake and set us back years. Next season is Ponder’s opportunity to prove his place in our history. He may not take us to the Playoffs next year, but if he comes out and wins 8 games we know what we have. I personally think that we will compete for the NFC Central next year. I think that Detriot and the Vikings are going to be the teams contending. I think Chicago is on the downward spiral and Greenbay is going to lose a lot of players over the next two years. Don’t forget Woodson is falling quickly and once he is gone their defense is completely in-effective.

  116. By Mark B on Jan 6, 2012 | Reply

    I understand that some teams are on their 4th QB – and I was suggesting that while they can have 3 or 4 QB’s, just not have all of them on the active 53 man roster. We have emergency QBs in both Camarillo and Longwell that can hopefully limp us home if need be. But the odds are against BOTH QB’s going down in the same game, unless they don’t do some upgrading on the OL. You could then shuffle players around as needed during the week. I’m also not a big fan of carrying “special team players” on the roster – if you wouldn’t be willing to put them on the field in their normal position and expect decent play, why are they on the team. Even when decimated in the secondary, I don’t think Frampton saw any time on field other than special teams. Don’t get me wrong, he is a great special teams player but that roster spot could be used in a more productive fashion.

  117. By marknpatty on Jan 7, 2012 | Reply

    we could go on and on. i say keep ponder, he will only get better in time. lets get the line men who will protect him

  118. By vikings4seven on Jan 7, 2012 | Reply

    Blackmon is who we need at 1
    lets go the route of free agency with OL. anyone would be equal or better.
    then focus on Defense the rest of the draft.
    With Ap ‘s injury teams will be going after ponder all day. Let ponder have another big play threat to keep the secondary honest.

  119. By shon on Jan 7, 2012 | Reply

    Blackmon an harvin for shure thing then try d jax fa that frees up o line the falcons did just that w h jones if not trade back an get cb forget ot.

  120. By Richard on Jan 8, 2012 | Reply

    If you don’t have an OL, you cannot do anything. If we would have kept McKinnie, we would have probably one at least one more game because of improved OL play. You can’t get blue chip LT’s in FA because once a team gets one, they lock that LT up for good. The only ways to get a franchise LT is to draft one or to trade for one.

  121. By 4eversteve on Jan 8, 2012 | Reply

    Bill Billicek build the Patriots into a playoff team year in and year out using the formula of trading in and out of rounds acquiring picks and building depth up and down their roster which is full of quality NFL players, many of which could start on most NFL rosters. So why in the world wouldn’t the Vikings employ this same strategy given the fact that they have so many holes to fill up and down this roster? This draft is very deep in all areas of need for the Vikings and no one player will make them competitive next season.

  122. By Brandon25 on Jan 8, 2012 | Reply

    Here is what I would love to see happen. Start off with the draft. I am praying that the Rams take Blackmon instead of Kalil. And since the Browns will be looking to take RG3 trade back one spot ot four and get that other first round pick. Now with that fourth pick send the card up for Matt Kalil LT to protect Ponder. Alright with that later pick if Malcolm Floyd falls this far bring the Cretin Durham Hall grad back to Minnesota. If he does not fall that far, get a solid defensive back from Nebraska by the name of Alfonzo Dennard. Then the third pick in the second round bring in Mark Barron at safety or another lineman in the form of Kelechi Osemele at of Iowa State or the beast out of Michigan State at DT Jerel Worthy. Now in Free Agency bring in Dwayne Bowe or Mike Wallace for WR help. At OL bring in Carl Nicks to make this OL good again. and find a couple other gems and we will be back on track Offensive Line, D Backs, and Wide Receiver is what we need to focus on the most, get those on track we will be fine and be back in the playoffs before you know it. Thanks for Readin give me feedback!

  123. By josh k on Jan 8, 2012 | Reply

    we have tons of needs the draft should be huge for us this year, i wonder what picks we get for rice and edwards leaving last year.

    priorities imo:
    1. OL
    2. CB/S
    3. WR
    4. OLB
    5. OL

    i would love an early splash in FA or trades for D backs

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  125. By sean on Jan 8, 2012 | Reply

    1.Matt Kalil
    2.Nick Toon

  126. By Vernon on Jan 8, 2012 | Reply

    I would like to know how some of you believe that the Vikings are in postion to make a splash in Free Agency, when they are currently sitting just barely under salery cap!?!?…. This current roster needs an overhaul of age Vets making far too much that arent producing and also an infusion of young talent.. With that said I’m soo extremely excited about the possiblity that the Vikings well have Justin Blackmon avialable at #3, if the Colts don’t take Luck which is highly likely and the Rams take M. Kalil assuming they well to strengthen there weak O-line. Having J. Blackmon opening up the outsides with Kyle commanding the middle and Harvin runnin wild in the slot or out of the backfeild I think the Vikings offense returns to near elite status in the league. I would hate to see the Vikings trade down for more picks because I have no faith in Rick Speilmen when he drafts out of a trade position it seems to backfire… barring the trade that got us Toby Gerhart(which i was against) the vikings seem to fail picking good players for the schemes they run on offense or defense.. example the trade to get T-Jack 2 3rd rounders for a mid 2nd psh the Vikings could of addressed the Secondary or Oline that year with those 2 3rd rounders… that trade for Toby was a 2nd plus a 3rd to move up earlier in the second round again the Vikings had more pressing needs then a back up running back… although with AP hurt now it looks like a blessing in disguise.. but only because we dont have an established QB running the offense.. this team has alot of HOLES to address but trading out of the 3rd slot really hurts this team if the Vikings front office fails to draft high quality remarkable talent!! Also FYI it took a total of 3 Picks to land Jared Allen!~ One first and 2 3rd rounders total Which for the beast that J.Allen is that trade is arguably the only reason why Rick still has a job.. that and draftin AP!~
    Alot of blah blah here but where do you the Vikings well go if they trade away a chance to draft a stellar Wideout that’ll shine with this team for 10 years to come!! Draft Justin Blackmon!! :D sell jerseys… make the entire offense open up and get those safties out of the box for AP, Toby and Joe Webb.. then watch in enjoyment as this team starts scoring more often then not leading to more victories…. I for one am all about that!

  127. By Richard on Jan 9, 2012 | Reply


    They can make a splash since they have alot of bloated contracts coming off the books.

    Please know what you’re talking about before you post. Also, you suck.

  128. By Richard on Jan 9, 2012 | Reply

    Also, Fran Foley made the T-Jack trade. Also, shut up

  129. By Viking Joe on Jan 10, 2012 | Reply

    The O-line should be top priority, not a WR !!!! That should be 3rd on the list.

  130. By Claude on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    we need a P in 4 or 5 round, Kluwe is trash… Look the Australian P of LSU, wonderfull!!!!!

  131. By pete on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    The vikings need a lot of help this draft. Most important though, they need to change the attitude of the team. I believe they should trade with miami, get the 9th overall and their 2nd rounder, 4th rounder. At that point draft vontaze burfict. He is insane and is an old school tough guy. then pay big money on finnegan to help the secondary. Our persona would be a team no one wants to mess with. with the additional picks you fix o line, wr, safety and you win all ways

  132. By matt on Jan 11, 2012 | Reply

    minnesota needs to draft an left tackle, 2 CB’s, a WR, and an left guard cause hutchingson is getting old. do not trade your pick away minnesota. if kalil is taken by st. louis. then either riley rieff out from iowa ( 2nd best OT in draft) or a DB. for a WR try to pick up Marvin McNutt. he has been amazing this year and is one of the best WR’s this year right behind Blackmon

  133. By Nov on Jan 20, 2012 | Reply

    I just want to know why everyone believes ponder is the future??

    im just sayin what i think, we should get RGIII to start our rebuilding process and then we can worry about filling other positions in free agency and next years draft… cuz we arent winnning a superbowl next year so start with RG as our new franchise player..

    i may be wrong but i think RGIII has way more potential than ponder

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