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Will Redskins Employ Run-Heavy Attack vs. Vikings?

Posted by Mike Wobschall on December 22, 2011 – 4:03 pm

The Vikings will travel to the Washington D.C. area on Friday with an injury-depleated secondary that currently ranks 30th in the NFL. Just 1 of the 4 starting DBs from Week 1 remains in the lineup (Jamarca Sanford), and with Asher Allen dealing with a concussion and Cedric Griffin demoted from the starting lineup, it’s entirely possible that 6 of the team’s best 7 opening-day DBs will not see the field.

On top of all that, the Washington Redskins come into this weekend’s matchup ranked 14th in passing and 29th in rushing. For the season, the Redskins have passed the ball on 60.7% of their snaps and they have twice as many TDs through the air (16) as they do on the ground (8).

With all of that said, though, don’t be surprised if Washington attacks the Vikings defense primarily on the ground. It might not make sense at first blush, but a closer look at the numbers suggests this might be the route the Redskins take.

The Redskins currently sit with a 5-9 record, but they began the season with 3 wins in their first 4 games. In those 4 games, the Redskins averaged 30.75 rushes per game. After a bye in Week 4, Washington went on a 6-game losing streak, and in those games they ran the ball just 17.0 times per game. Since losing to Dallas in Week 11, the Redskins have gone 2-2 and have run the ball 31.5 times per game in that stretch, including a 40-carry game in victory against the Giants last week.

Suffice it to say the Redskins have seen better results when they employ a more balanced run-pass ratio, and they’ve in fact won games when they’ve had a run-heavy attack.

It might seem odd given the caliber of pass defense the Vikings have displayed as of late, but Washington could very well choose to attack the Vikings on the ground early and often. If they choose this strategy, rookie RB Roy Helu will be the team’s primary ball carrier. He’s averaging 4.3 yards per rush and had 3 consecutive 20-carry, 100-yard rushing performances from Week 12-14.

“I think he is a tough football player, a good football player that has good skills,” Vikings Defensive Coordinator Fred Pagac said on Thursday. “He can run, he’s fast, he’s predominantly a tackle to outside runner, but that is their offense. He does a good job.”


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84 Responses to “Will Redskins Employ Run-Heavy Attack vs. Vikings?”

  1. By Immureglass on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    My guess is No to the run heavy attack. The Vikes have a pretty good run stopping defense but a horrid pass coverage defense that is easy to exploit. A third string QB can put up over 300 yrds threw the air on us.

  2. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    I think the answer to this article is– the Redskins will do whatever they want.

  3. By Rudso on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    If the Redskins were smart, they would employ a pass heavy attack on the Vikings. If Tim Tebow can look like a pro bowl pass thrower, you throw the ball on the Vikings right now.

    I want to discuss the issue with our secondary. I know our CBs belong in the 3rd string but I think the problem with our secondary is our Safeties. They can’t tackle, they can’t cover, and on top of that half the time they act like they don’t even know what the play is.

    I think we can survive with Winfield and Cook (assuming they stay on the field) and I have high hopes for Brandon Burton but we have NOTHING at the safety position.

    We either need a big time FA Safety like Landry from the Redskins, or our 2nd round pick needs to go towards a high profile safety. Mark Barron from Alabama would fit in nice.

    What do you guys think in regards to our Corners and Safeties.

  4. By Mike B. on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    I have to agree with the others even if there are a couple interceptions. The Redsikins will pass against our weak secondary. Every team this year has started out trying to balance and end up the second half pickiing us apart in the passing game. Sorry Mike W. can’t agree with you here.

  5. By Mike B. on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    Fred is pushing his point at nausem to hallow ears. I don’t think change is coming to the Vikings Organization especially if we win one of the last two games. I agree about the GM and even asked this question in the Game chat and Mike W said it was a good idea. That’s as far as it needs to be pushed. Maybe a daily reminder once some time during the day. This constant posting boarders on cyber bullying.

  6. By Deertracks on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    The Vikings football season is gone like a f-rt in a wind storm…

    With two games left, why doesn’t Frazier set some first team players, and play practice squad in their spots…

    Let us see if they are going to show that they are worth keeping…just saying….

  7. By Mike B. on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    @Deertracks He is fighting for his job. Two more blow outs he could lose any support from the Wilfs. Plus sitting the veterans will cause a worse riff in the locker room than there already is.

  8. By YourMama on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    Can you really say 6 of the BEST 7 db’s? Aren’t they all equally sh-itty?

  9. By Derek on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    Why would you even think about running against our defense? I’d just sit back and throw all day! Hate to say it but its true! If I were the Redskins I wouldn’t throw a single pass all game. We wouldn’t even come close to an INT. Anyways go Vikes!

  10. By Derek on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    Check that, I wouldn’t run all game, I’d pass! I got so into the moment! lol

  11. By Deertracks on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    Mike B…You make a good point…However, the Wilfs already made their statement that Frazier will be back, any shift from that postion would reflect on them as being incapable of making a decision and sticking to it..

    On the locker room bit, That would show the veterans that if they can’t get their act together, just maybe their are those (practice squad people)that just may replace them…

  12. By Mike B. on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    @Deertracks after the blowout at the Dome on Sunday it sounded as the wilfs are not as convinced about Frazier as they were a few weeks ago. There is some doubt there anyway.

  13. By Mike J on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    Our DB’s suck Sanford been playing since week 1 and he looks the most confused on the field. We know Asher Allen aka Can’t get right will be back next season since Frazier thinks so highly of him, he’s our so called best coverage corner in our stupid HC eyes. We definitely need to draft another corner to go along with Cook because building a championship team starts with a good defense especially with the talent level offenses have now days.

  14. By Mike J on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    The Wilfs aren’t worried about anything other then trying to get a stadium. With the way our season went any other owner would be more vocal about it, someone would’ve got fired Frazier was never on the hot seat. What has he proved to the Wilfs that say next season will be any different were getting worst every game. And by him giving younger guys a try that’s actually taking a step forward because our starters couldn’t get the job done and we are suppose to be rebuilding.

  15. By Immureglass on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    So before Freddy Boy gets on here and starts pounding his relentless “HIRE A GM” post. Here is my solution to the coaching and front office discussion:

    1.) Keep Frazier as head coach
    2.) Promote Mike Singletary to D.C.
    3.) Hire Mike Ditka as GM

    And there you have it problem solved.

  16. By Twoodsnvikes on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    After we trade down for additional 2nd, 3rd, and fourth round picks:

    1st Round: Alshon Jeffery/Michael Flloyd (WR)
    2nd round: Chase Minnfield (CB)
    2nd round: Mark Barron (SS)
    3rd round: Levy Adc ock (OT)
    3rd round: Shaun Prater (CB)
    4th round: Keenan Robinson (OLB)
    4th round: Matt McCants (OT)
    4th round (compensatory): Amini Silatolu (OG)

    Lets say Martin is still available for us, I’d keep a few of the same players:

    1st round: Jonathan Martin (OT)
    2nd round: Chase Minnfield (CB)
    2nd round: Mark Barron (SS)
    3rd round: Lucas Nix (OG)
    3rd round: Shaun Prater (CB)
    4th round: Keenan Robinson (OLB)
    4th round: Marvin McNutt (WR)
    4th round (compensatory): George Iloka (FS)

  17. By SAN JO VIK!!!!! on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    Go after l.j. #21 from the ducks him and #28 a.p. make two perfect leaders and get purple machine payton manning pm thats whats up go vikes

  18. By VegasVike on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    Wow Titus that’s harsh! (for you) but you are correct… But why would they run?? All they have to do is PASS PASS PASS SCORE SCORE SCORE!! that’s the blueprint isn’t it?

  19. By SAN JO VIK!!!!! on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    One two punch #21 james and #28 peterson!!

  20. By SAN JO VIK!!!!! on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    And change the helmets color to white and put mv on em sick styles!

  21. By Shawn on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    Titus … LOL. Sad but true. Our run defense looks good because teams really dont run on us they dont need to. Snap. Drop. Pitch. Catch. Uncontested. Score.

  22. By Parody on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    Regardless of how the Skins have failed in recent games, they would be crazy to make the change to a more balanced offense now. Teams have shown that you don’t need a running game to beat the Vikings. The smart move would be to pick the Vikings defense apart through the air, and then mix in the run game here and there after gaining a 2-3 score lead.

    The only downside for Washington in this method is that it will make some of their fans start to think that they actually have a QB! Whether it’s Grossman or Beck, or whoever their third stringer is, he’ll look so good against us that some people in the Capital will say that they don’t need to draft a Barkley or CG3 next year…

  23. By TheRealDon on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    Why do we still only rush 4..Please don’t say because of the secondary is so weak..We need some blitz’s and to get out of cover 2

  24. By Parody on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    TRD – I think it’s because Frazier believes in a bend but don’t break philosophy. It’s a method that can be successful, but only with strict discipline both from the coach and the players who are implementing it. We have seen that a number of our players lack the discipline to make it successful, but they are still young and learning. However, it makes for a very boring defense most of the time with little more than the occasional sack to get us excited.

  25. By TheRealDon on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    If we have the same DC next season we will have the same results..

  26. By Parody on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    Okay, I just learned that Barkley has announced that he’s not joining this year’s draft class: (Via article “Matt Barkley made best choice for himself by returning to USC”)

    That’s bad news for the hopes of drafting Kalil. I recall reading somewhere that he would remain at USC if his QB did the same. A different article makes it appear as if Kalil has already made the decision to enter the draft: (Via article “Matt Kalil to enter 2012 draft”)

    However, this article was posted before the one about Barkley, and there’s plenty of time for him to change his mind. Either way, Barkley’s decision makes our draft pick more valuable in a trade. It makes CG3 the only QB other than Luck who is worthy of being selected in the first half of the draft. So teams in dire need of a QB could be competing for the rights to draft CG3.

  27. By Parody on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    Dämn…that was annoying. Something in my links was getting blocked. Here’s one of them, we’ll know that it’s not the culprit if this posts:

    http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nfl/story/_/id/7358275/usc-trojans-matt-kalil-enter-2012-nfl-draft

  28. By Parody on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    Alright, that tells me that Trojan is an acceptable word at this site. So the problem must lie within the lüst hidden in sportsillüstrated.

    Switch out the ‘ü’ in the following link to go to the other article I was referencing:
    http://sportsillüstrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/12/22/matt-barkley-usc/index.html

  29. By Immureglass on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    @Parody I also read an article QB Barkley saying that he was gonna stay for another year but it also said that he would be without Kahlil. I’m not sure if there is any truth behind Kahlil will declare for the draft or not but I’m sure we’ll get a definitive answer soon.

  30. By 25yearsaviking on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    Does anyone on here know enough about our salary to answer what the chances are for our team to pay enough to get say Leron Landry and Vincent Jackson, orr any other good combination of the two?

  31. By 25yearsaviking on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    I’m just thinking how much that would allow us to just focus on O line and DBs in the draft. I really think through a good draft (with a true general manager, not Speilman,), a couple of good free agent pick ups, another year under a new system with a new coaches, and get everyone off IR and out off jail, we could be a couple games above .500. We play the AFC south and NFC west next year. Then probably the Redskins and Panthers. Here’s to the future.

  32. By 25yearsaviking on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    Colts win colts win colts win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  33. By Parody on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    Dang it! I keep on forgetting that the NFL is holding half its games on Thursdays now!

    Colts beating the Texans is great news! It almost confirms that conspiracy theory we were discussing a couple days ago. It seems pretty likely that the Jaguars will roll over for Indy if Houston did. Then it just becomes a battle between MN and St. Louis for the #1…can dreams really come true?

  34. By Shawn on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    Looks like we are 12 million under the cap which should give us room to get a couple free agents …

    http://nflfootballnow.com/2011/07/21/2011-nfl-salary-cap-and-floor-where-32-teams-stand/

  35. By Mike B. on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    Wow Indy just won their second game. Now 3 way tie for last place.

  36. By Shawn on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    colts are not winning its 16-12 Texans colts ball on their own 33

  37. By Shawn on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    hahahha

    Sorry guys i must of rewinded earlier and forgot to hit live tv so i was about 20 mins behind

  38. By Parody on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    I doubt St. Louis has any wins left, facing off against Pittsburgh and San Francisco to finish the season. So it all rests on if the Vikings can squeak out two more losses and keep a slightly easier schedule than the Rams. Right now we have the advantage in the tiebreaker, but that could change quickly.

  39. By Parody on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    No prob Shawn.

    http://www.nfl.com/scores
    Confirms Colts win 19-16!

  40. By 25yearsaviking on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    Thanks Shawn. When we cut a couple DBs in three weeks that should help too.

  41. By Parody on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    Nice cap room article Shawn. I’m rather surprised that Philadelphia and the “dream team” are sor deep in the green! They must have signed a lot of those free agents to one-year deals.

    On the other side of the spectrum, Green Bay is almost $10M over the cap. Looks like they’ll need to cut some players. Hopefully that will equate to a more competitive chance for us next year.

  42. By Parody on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    shhh….you hear that? The entire state just errupted in a chant:

    suck for luck
    suck for luck.
    suck for luck!
    suck for Luck!
    suck For Luck!
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    SUCK FOR LUCK!
    SUCK FOR LUCK!!
    SUCK FOR LUCK!!!
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  43. By Parody on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    SUCK FOR LUCK!!!!

  44. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 22, 2011 | Reply

    Sorry for the “harshness” of my post Vegas and all, but the Saints game was quite a blow. I know Brees is an incredible player, but there was no heart on the team– and that is what I had seen the past 4-5 games– great heart and fight. Nada last Sunday– very disappointing. And we owed the Saints– big time.

  45. By xvike on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    Colts just won, does that mean that MN will get the first pick if they lose the rest of their games this season which is likely to happen??????

  46. By xvike on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    Imagine if MN did get the first pick…. Luck? Or a king’s ransom for the first pick????? Hmmmm which one should the vikings take???? I would probably take the king’s ransom so they could fill the many holes that they have on this team…. Or take luck and not have to worry about a qb for 10-15 years…… i dunno…..

  47. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    I would take Luck if he is all they say he is– develop him with Ponder and let the competition fuel their performance. Bring in Favre as quarterback coach, strengthen and focus on the O Line and bring back Moss for retirement and to sell tickets. Hire a GM who knows football inside out. Build the stadium. Then trade the better quarterback the following year for several more picks– and by 2013, we are set to go. No wait, I have a better idea.

  48. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    Oops– I thought I erased the better idea part– I was going to say something sarcastic, but thought I would keep a positive spin.

  49. By Roninmn.. on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    Hey guys and gals how about Matt Kalil. Is he going to be available for us?

  50. By Deertracks on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    Let me see if I have this correctly…

    The Colts won…Does that mean “if” the Vikings (Should have said “Will”) get their beaks flatten in the last two games..

    Will the Tuckered Vikings get 1st pick in the drafts?

  51. By Viking33 on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    Nope – If we tie the Colts they will get the 1st Pick – I just saw a breakdown on ESPN. We may overtake the Rams for #2, but unless the Colts win another game and we lose out, we will have #2 or #3.

  52. By Viking33 on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    I do not understand how the thinking here has changed now that we presomably have a shot at Luck? It is ok to draft Luck @ #1 and keep or trade Ponder but not to draft RG3 @ #2 and keep or trade Ponder? I saw them both play and they both are very very good, different, but they will both be great, personally I would rather have Griffin, I saw him put his team on his back constantly this season and carry them. We should listen to the experts on Luck, because they are always right………right? Maybe we should draft Moore out of Boise too then?

  53. By greatirishpotatofamine on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    If Laron Landry knows whats good for him he’d stay away from minnesota. We’re going to have to build through the draft because we are the most unattractive destination in the NFL

  54. By Parody on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    Viking33 – I am not in the group who would like to draft Luck. I’m just excited about the trade potential the #1 draft pick has because of Luck. We have Ponder, and we need to give him a chance to succeed. Turning our #1 into a group of high draft picks can accomplish a lot towards making that happen.

  55. By Deertracks on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    Viking33; Thanks…Beginning to lok like the Vikings will not have any ‘luck’ with Luck….

    We still have a lock on Ponder and Webb…

    Looks like greatirishpotatobug above has a dislike for our Minnesota…Tried any fishing up here, patato bug?

  56. By Carl K on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    Matt Kalil hired Tom Conden as his agent… no turning back now.

  57. By DrinkHeavyVikingsFans on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    Agree with Parody. We have Ponder and Webb, two young yet unproven QBs. Trade down, draft a OL, DB and hard hitting SS.
    Trade Loadholt and try to get Staley from the 49ers, Grubbs from the Ravens or Ferguson from the Jets. If Santa is around, throw in Saftey Mike Griffen from teh Titans and now we’re cookin.

  58. By Viking33 on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    @ Parody – I also hope they do the right thing and Build around Ponder by trading down and doing just that. Boise St also has a very very good LT coming out in the draft if we miss on Kalil. If we have the 1st pick in the draft, we have a golden oppurtunity to increase the talent on our team this season and over the next two or three years. Go Colts!!!!!

  59. By Carl K on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    First priority is to lock down the Arden Hills stadium development deal.
    Second priority is to sign a top free agent safety. I would take any of these 3 -
    LaRon Landry
    Michael Griffin
    Tyron Branch
    Third priority is to draft Matt Kalil in the 1st round and a CB in the 2nd round.
    Janoris Jenkin, Chase Minnifield or Stephon Gilmore… 1 of these guy would really help our secondary.

    I still have faith that Frazier and Ponder can turn this thing around.

  60. By Carl K on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    I know a lot of fans would like to see the Vikings hire a GM… however I think the Wilfs will be more focused on the stadium resolution issue.
    A new GM would probably mean a whole new front office and coaches.
    Without a stadium… it would be more difficult to attract top personel.
    Those moves usually happen right after the season ends… I don’t think the Wilfs will want to bite off major front office changes and try to get a stadium deal passed at the same time.

    Sorry Frederick… IMO, your push for a new GM will probably need to wait until next year.

  61. By Saddy on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    All the scouts are not wrong on Andrew Luck..He is going to be great, why not have a great QB and the best RB for the best offense in NFL. It worked when we had Brett, we almost went to super bowl with the same OL and DB’s.

    I seriously think Andrew Luck / AP does sound very exciting, Stanford didn’t have a top WR but still was able to put up 20-30 points per game. Stanford defense sucks just like us but were able to win a lot of games. This is a passing game, Peyton Manning made Charlie Johnson look good.

    I would be open to this but I don’t think so it’s going give us a championship – Trade #1 pick to Redskins, Get Laron Landry and 2 1st round picks one for 2012 and one for 2013..

  62. By VikeNasty on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    Im really liking the idea of going after Laron Landry, but I’m all about getting two corners in the first and second round. I like Kalil but I cant stand knowing when an opposing QB drops back it is going to be a completion unless the ball is dropped or Allen gets a sack. It is the worst part of watching the Vikes games. That is why I like three top draft picks going to the secondary. Just in case you miss on one.

  63. By DRS on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    Bud Grant for GM, the only Viking coach to go to the SB, 4x.

    Get a defense or you will be no good for years to come.

    Have a great day.

    MCAHNY!!!!

  64. By Carl K on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    Chris Cook at one corner and Chase Minnifield at the other corner with Winfield at the nickle (Not Bad). We have solid depth with Asher Allen, Bradon Burton, Sapp and Sherels.

    We need a FA safety.
    We need to upgrade our Oline for sure.

    If we have a shot at Luck… I might take him. Would Miami give us a second round pick for Ponder?

  65. By Rudso on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    If we do end up with the #1 pick over all this draft, I also think we should stay with Ponder and seriously try to trade that pick away. I like what I’ve seen from Ponder and I think the Vikings made the right choice in drafting him 12th over all. Ya his thrown some interceptions but we can’t forget that it’s his rookie year, only has Percy and a sorry excuse for an offensive line.

    I really like Ponders pocket presence and ability to escape from the pocket should it break down, basically every other play. What happens if we do pick up Luck and ruin him because his not as mobile and our O-line can’t save him?

    I would much rather stick with Ponder and develop him and use all the picks we get from trading away #1 to rebuild a team around him.

    A #1 pick is worth 3,000 value points. As everything stands right now, it looks like Miami or the Redskins will have a top 10 pick this draft and might be willing to go after Luck.

    If we can make a deal with the Redskins for the #1 pick, they would have to give up their #7 over all pick (1,500 points), 2nd round pick (510 points), 3rd round pick (235) points, and 4th round pick (88) points. That adds up to 2,333 points, which is still not enough to cover the #1 pick so I would assume we can get SS Laundry and maybe another 2nd or 3rd round pick. Just to give you an example, 700 points is equal to the #26th overall pick so basically another 1st round pick.

    So it’s ether stay with Ponder and possibly get Laundry, 7th over all pick, an extra 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and maybe next years 2nd or 1st round pick OR draft Luck and possibly get a 1st or 2nd round pick for Ponder?

    I’ll stick with Ponder and take the Redskins entire draft. If used properly, we can do some SERIOUS damage in the draft with #7th over all (maybe Claiborn, Blackmon, or Kirkpatrick), two low 2nd round picks (we can use 1 on a OT and 1 on solid WR) two low 3rd round picks, two 4th round picks and ect. We can get 6 players our of the top 100 players picked.

    With some good management and negotiation, we can turn our team around in 1 or 2 years if we end up with the #1 over all pick and trade it. Look what the Browns did with last years 6th overall pick. Imagine the possibilities with what we’ll get from trading the #1 over all pick.

    Haha sorry for the long write up, I’m just excited for this years draft. :)

  66. By Rudso on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    Just in case anyone is interested in checking out the draft pick value chart for your self.

    http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php

  67. By DrinkHeavyVikingsFans on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    While we’re all dreaming..let’s add either Mario Williams or Aaron Smith to our DL – that’would be kick a$$ with JA.

  68. By Rudso on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    If we do end up trading away the #1 pick if we end up with it, I would love for the Vikings to target CB Dre Kirkpatrick from Alabama and the head hunting ball hawk team made SS Mark Barron also from Alabama.

    Imagine two 6’2 CBs with Cook on one side and Kirkpatrick on the other, Winfield and Sherls rotating in to the slot and Mark Barron as a safety in the back looking for picks or lay out one of Green Bays WRs.

    I really like the attitude and physical presence Kirkpatrick and Barron bring to the secondary. Both are hard hitters and can make plays. Maybe their swagger after making a play will inspire others on defense to make a play.

  69. By DrinkHeavyVikingsFans on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    BTW, Frazier already has it worked out with Wilf..he’s staying on and has the green-light to do whatever it takes..so i would expect Les to play out the string like pre-season..I’m completely OK with that as long as I see some different coaches and players next year..here’s to 2-14 and let’s see what we can do with the draft and trades.

  70. By Cesar on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    2012 draft (what we should do)

    1st round- Matt Kalil LT
    2nd Round- CB
    3rd round- WR
    4th round- OG
    5th round- SS/FS
    6th round- DT/DE
    7th round- LB

  71. By Cesar on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    If we end up with the #1 pick trade it

  72. By Cesar on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    BUT WE SHOULD ALSO FOCUS ON FA FOR WR’S REGGIE WAYNE (FA) BRAYLON EDWARDS (FA) etc ..

  73. By Cesar on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    BUT AGAIN OUR GM IS AN IDIOT SO I DONT GET MY HOPES UP

  74. By DRS on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    Cesar, what GM? Do we have one?

    Have a great day.

  75. By Rudso on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    I hope we take care of at least 1 of our major needs via FA. We won’t find a franchise LT in FA as no one is stupid enough to let them go so I hope we take care of our Safety need with a big name player or our WR position.

    There are some nice free agent WRs out this season. I wouldn’t mind Wayne for 2-3 years to help Ponder but his not the speed WR we need to open up the field so I would expect them to draft maybe a 3rd round WR who has speed.

  76. By Deertracks on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    Looks like Batch will quarterback the Steelers – Rams game.. Roethlisberger is out with an ankle injury…

    Maybe, just maybe, the Rams will get lucky…If thats the case, Vikings could very well take the top dog spot in the draft? Or will the Rams lay down like the Vikings will, for a good drafting spot…

  77. By DuaneN on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    Rich Eisen said that if Colts and Vikings end up tied it would come down to a coinflip. He sounded serious.

    Batch is playing for Steelers this week, go Rams.

  78. By Carl K on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    @rudso – I agree S Mark Barron is a big time hitter, but I am not sure if he is a perfect fit for the Vikings. The scouting reports I see on Barron points out that he doesn’t have great cover ability or athelticism. He is a downhill box safety that is most effective against the run.

    I think Barron’s draft status could rise or fall depending on how well he does at the combine. He was also arrested in March… so character issues… and how well he interviews with teams could move him up or down.

  79. By Viking-ology on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    After scanning through these posts I’ll give my opinions on a few items: I totallt agree that the entire defensive coaching staff should get the boot, we have had the same system for too long and it simple does not work anymore. Mike Singletary would NOT make a good defensive coordinator-look what he did to the 49ers as head coach, also, I think the LB core has taken a step backwards from where they were last year. Romeo Crennel, Cam Cameron or blabber mouth Rex Ryan (if he gets fired) would be suitable defensive coordinators.

  80. By Viking-ology on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    (totally)

  81. By Viking-ology on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    As far as the top pick is concerned-I think we will pick #3. We will win against Chicago the last game. Rams will get the second pick and Colts will be first. Colts will get Luck (we don’t need him ) Rams will trade down and so will we. Get as many high draft picks as possible and start with OL help and go from there.

  82. By Rudso on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    Carl K, I didn’t know that about Mark Barron, thanks for the info. I saw a couple of his games and high highlights, I didn’t know the scouts rated his cover skills low. I know for sure I will be watching the Draft Combine closely this year.

  83. By Regfan on Dec 23, 2011 | Reply

    The”Coaches”will probably send AP up the middle for 1 yard gains,while Ponder runs for his life and gets re-injured.
    So Webb will be sent in to play catch -up

  84. By Deertracks on Dec 24, 2011 | Reply

    Regfan: You got that right!!

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