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Vikings, Lions Submit Initial Injury Reports

Posted by Mike Wobschall on December 7, 2011 – 3:23 pm

Wednesday practices are over, which means it’s time for teams to submit their initial injury reports of the week. The Vikings and Lions have each submitted their reports, and since its Week 14 there is a lot to go over.

We’ll break down each team, starting with the Vikings…

Held out of practice on Wednesday were LG Steve Hutchinson (illness), RB Adrian Peterson (ankle), QB Christian Ponder (hip) and DE Brian Robison (concussion). The Vikings also had 4 players who were limited in practice, including CB Asher Allen (shoulder), LB Chad Greenway (elbow), DE Everson Griffen (quad) and TE Visanthe Shiancoe (hand). LB E.J. Henderson (shoulder) and RG Anthony Herrera (knee) were both listed as full participants.

There are no real surprises on that list for the Vikings. During his Wednesday press conference, Vikings Head Coach Leslie Frazier indicated that both Peterson and Ponder would be held out of practice. Frazier was optimistic that Ponder could play this Sunday.

For the Lions, the following six players did not participate in practice: S Louis Delmas (knee), DT Nick Fairley (foot), CB Chris Houston (knee), DE Lawrence Jackson (thigh), RB Kevin Smith (ankle) and DE Kyle Vanden Bosch (not injury-related). LB Justin Durant (hamstring), CB Brandon McDonald (thigh), G Rob Sims (shoulder) and DE Willie Young (ankle) were all limited.

There aren’t any big surprises here, either. With DT Ndamukong Suh out for the game (suspension), the health of Fairley will be important this week. He was the team’s 1st-round draft choice this year and has missed significant time this year because of the foot injury. With Suh out, Fairley becomes even more important in that DL rotation for the Lions. The health of Delmas and Houston is also important for the Lions defense because both players are starters. Delmas is more of a force in the run game, while Houston is the team-leader in INTs with 4.


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73 Responses to “Vikings, Lions Submit Initial Injury Reports”

  1. By Jdude on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Than God. Injured lions defensive players means an easier time for our offense.

  2. By Deertracks on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    I don’t know about that, Detroit still has a Team to reckon with…My Crystal ball says this will be no blowout…

  3. By Parody on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Look for the tream to showcase Gerhart this week. He just might get a career high in rushing yards with the center of their DLine as weakened as it is.

  4. By TheRealdon on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Why does Frazier make it seem like getting Asher Allen back is going to make this weak a’ss secondary play better..SORRY FRAZIER BUT ASHER ALLEN SUCKS..

  5. By TheRealdon on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Why does Frazier make it seem like getting Asher Allen back is going to make this weak a’ss secondary play better..SORRY FRAZIER BUT ASHER ALLEN SUCKS..

    That being said if secondary is not the 1st thing on your mind this off season Frazier..I will no longer have faith in you..

  6. By DesertViking on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Bench Jamarca Sanford!!!! He can’t cover or tackle! He’s useless, even on special teams!

  7. By TheRealdon on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    DesertViking…Yes I don’t know why they don’t start the safety the brought in..

  8. By VikesOwn on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    i hoper ponder can play. what happen to kyle ruldoph he didnt practice today

  9. By Mike J on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    I understand why Ced Griffin is mad at the Frazier comment, why would Frazier point fingers at him then turn around and praise Ash Allen who sucks everytime he’s in the field, Sanford sucks to so why didn’t Frazier point him out this is the exact same thing he did to Kevin Williams while ignoring how suck Ayodele is. I do think our secondary suck but part of it has to do with the coaches putting players in bad positions. Look at the plays Griffin got beat on he was expecting safety help. Then look at the play Burton was beat on and tell me they don’t look the same I really believe after suck Ash Allen our corners would be ok if put in the right position meaning we need better coaching.

  10. By Frederick Jones on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    @TheRealDon,

    Why would the Vikings draft a defensive back or offensive lineman with picks
    #1, #2, or #3 ?

    All you have to do is teach them how to play the position, they don’t have to have any talent.

    The above is the reason we won’t see an offensive lineman or dback picked until at least round 4.

    HIRE A GENERAL MANAGER!!!

  11. By Frederick Jones on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    If the Vikings can draft Luck, they will.

    If they can get a top RB in round #1, they will!

    HIRE A GENERAL MANAGER WHO UNDERSTANDS THE GAME OF FOOTBALL, FOR PETERSON’S SAKE!!!

  12. By Viking-ology on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    I think the Vikes need a new defensive coordinator with a new scheme. The defense we have now is the same style defense we’ve had for a long time and it has been declining each year.

  13. By Frederick Jones on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    I will bet you Spielman is out scouting a RB or QB as we speak!!!

    HIRE A GENERAL MANAGER WHO UNDERSTANDS THE GAME OF FOOTBALL, FOR HARVIN’S SAKE!!!

  14. By TheRealDon on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Frederick Jones..Well tell them to teach this secondary we have been playing with for the past 4 years..Cause it’s clear they don’t have the talent to start..Been this way for too long..

  15. By Frederick Jones on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    VIKINGOLOGY,

    TALENT, not coaching, WINS GAMES 90% OF THE TIME.

    Ask Mike Ditka if you do not believe me. (Either that, or he got dumb all of the sudden in New Orleans).

    HIRE A GENERAL MANAGER WHO UNDERSTANDS FOOTBALL,
    FOR WEBB’S SAKE!!!

  16. By Frederick Jones on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    HIRE A MANAGER WHO UNDERSTANDS FOOTBALL FOR THE REAL DON’S SAKE!!!

  17. By Frederick Jones on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    @TheRealDon,

    Maybe we could just use the Miami Dophins benchwarmers for our defensive backfield next year! All you have to do is teach them, they don’t have to have any talent! Offensive Line is the same way, except they have to weigh 300 pounds.

    lol x 1,000,000

  18. By Frederick Jones on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    HIRE A GENERAL MANAGER WHO UNDERSTANDS FOOTBALL FOR PONDER’S SAKE!!!

  19. By Mike B. on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Lol Fred still beating that stick against a wall. There isn’t going to be any GM next year with the Vikings. Ziggy has already committed to it. We can’t get any worse than we are right now this year. Ziggy is putting his money on the guys he has now turning it around next year. Just how I see it and from what’s being quoted and written seems like that’s how it is.

  20. By Frederick Jones on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Hey, maybe I could start eating lots of Doritos, Pizza, and Beer. By next season I’ll weight a beer-bloated 300 pounds. I could play center fo’ ya.

    You might have to use a fullback or two to catch the blitzers, and help out on p a s s i n g plays.

  21. By Mt_Viking on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    1st pick= The Honey-Badger form LSU…Period! He’s a DB that’s in the top 5 for the Heisman! Then draft a O-Line

  22. By Frederick Jones on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    @Mike B.,

    Yeah, you might be right. All the more reason why we have gots ta blitz them buggers wif lots of stuff about drafting, trading, and making deals to solidify the weak areas of this team!

    HIRE A GENERAL MANAGER WHO UNDERSTANDS FOOTBALL FOR MIKE B’S SAKE!!!

  23. By Viking-ology on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Fred-yes you need talent-but you still need good coaching to guide that talent, ask Norv Turner!

  24. By Frederick Jones on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    HIRE A GENERAL MANAGER WHO UNDERSTANDS FOOTBALL FOR Mt._Viking’s SAKE!!!

  25. By Frederick Jones on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    @Viking-ology,

    I have never liked Norv Turner because he gets so many second chances to coach. He’s like Bill Belichick.

    Most people would not get that second chance. You must be a part of the OLD BOY Network.

    I liked your comment..it was funny. :)

  26. By Frederick Jones on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Dennis Green is not part of the OLD BOY NETWORK.

    Before he went to Arizona, he had one of the very best, if not THE BEST coaching record of all-time. Green spent time with Northwestern, and helped turn them into a national power. He almost did it with the Cardinals too.

    HIRE DENNIS GREEN AS GENERAL MANAGER. SERIOUSLY!!!

  27. By Mt_Viking on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Went to put gas in my car yesterday….had my Vikes gear on….by the time I left the gas station….I was told 2 different Viking jokes …. :(

  28. By Mt_Viking on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    The point is…Vikings went from a contender to a JOKE in less then 2-years :(

  29. By Mike B. on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    I would like to see the Team Pick a good Outside WR in the first round. Someone that will become a Blue chip WR. Then get a good LT.

  30. By MJH on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    We need a ball hawk. For the love of god Frazier, please have your players ATTEMPT to strip the ball. It’s no coincidence that the Packers, Ravens, Steelers, etc., all play defense this way and it seems to work?

  31. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Are you sure we play the Lions this week? I thought it was the Jaguars.

  32. By Shawn on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Sometimes calling out a player motivates that player … Kevin Williams stepped up his game after being called out. Maybe Frazier called out Ced for 2 reasons #1 he was asked a direct question and #2 he needs Ced to cover Calvin Johnson so hopefully Ced gets in a zone and has his best game

    Maybe suggesting Ash is better than Ced will make Ced play harder and give Ash a little confidence ….

    I say thank you Frazier for telling us you see things that need to be fixed … good job

  33. By justinblackmon2thevikings on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Justin Blackmon said he is declaring for the draft today, he replaced Dez Bryant at Okla St and alot of people say he will be a even better WR than Dez. Our offensive line is poor, and secondary is atrocious, but WR is just of a need as any of those.. We have percy thats it.. im all for fixing all three needs but when a player like this is avaliable you take him. any other issues can be addressed in rounds 2-4 and dont forget we will get compensatory picks for Rice and Edwards.

  34. By justinblackmon2thevikings on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    oh! and do not forget free agency!

  35. By Woodboat on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    @ Shawn… unless Calvin Johnson is playing with a pretty severe hamstring or high ankle injury, Griffen couldn’t cover him on his best day. Calling out someone that isn’t capable of elevating his game is idiotic or delusional. Giving Asher Allen confidence is like massaging a pig… It might make him feel better, but he’s still a pig.

    There isn’t a chance in he!! that our defense holds Detroit… there is a very good chance that Loadholt will, however.

    I’d love to have another first round receiver (we have one in Harvin IMO). I’d rather keep the WRs we have and keep our opponents under 400 yards passing and our QB out of intensive care, however. Playmakers are great… we have a few of them (Peterson, Harvin, Rudolph), but you have to have the players that help make the playmakers shine… and we don’t.

  36. By Shawn on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    @Woodboat … lol I dont disagree with you but someone made a post calling out Frazier on calling out Ced so I was just saying sometimes a player needs to be called out.

    Ced was a decent corner b4 his injuries. He was never great shutdown guy but he made some plays and was a solid opposite Winfield corner … Frazier calling him out may be a message of you better step up or your out.

    I like Ced Griffen and would love to see him succeed he has such a good attitude and has displayed great heart getting himself on the field after back to back knee surgeries. I like Ced better than Asher …. and no way 5’3″ asher is matching up on 6’5″ Calvin Johnson … or at least no way he succeeds … Cedric at one time would of held his own and who knows maybe just maybe he will shine Sunday …. I hope so.

  37. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Or maybe we play the Dolphins?

  38. By Leslie Fraiser on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    What is this “secondary” you fans speak of??

  39. By Viking-ology on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Frazier was an OK defensive coordinator-that translates to a sub-par coach, which at this point is exactly what he’s demonstrating.

  40. By Viking-ology on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Wade Phillips was a terrible head coach, but I wish he was our defensive coordinator-look at the job he;s done this year.

  41. By Viking-ology on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    We need a new defensive coordinator first, then we need an excellent draft. After that and only that will we see what kind of excuses Frazier will come up with.

  42. By Viking-ology on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    If Ponder can play this Sunday (which by indication he will) then he must – he needs all the experience he can get under his belt. Please, no more Joe Webb project- it’s over CP is our QB end of story. For Webb’s sake, I do hope they find a spot for him to shine. And now that Gerhart showed he can plat smashmouth football, Frazier better find a way to play him more when AP comes back.

  43. By Viking-ology on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    (play)

  44. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    I heard we play the Seahawks.

  45. By Nicholas on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    I can’t wait to see the Asher Allen and Benny Sapp Show!!

  46. By KLAWZ on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    I am rooting for the colts……..maybe we can still get first pick………..

  47. By KLAWZ on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    Our corners and safety’s are completely worthless! I believe this to be an understatement actually!

  48. By steve on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    if i didn’t know any better i would say ponder threw that last pic on purpose he hit him right in the bread basket, he also gave them the 7 points they scored in the first half, and fumbled away the ball inside the 10 before the pic 6, ponder needs alot of playing time and to start making better decisions, as far as our receivers aroshamadu played rather well and harvin tore it up, they definitely aren’t using the te’s enough, and i totally agree on defense we need a new system, but what is up with them shutting teams down in the first half this year just to get pounded in the second half? if you can’t perform highly for 60 minutes time for a new profession.

  49. By Nicholas on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    After being smashed from his blind side many times……the only thing on Ponder’s mind was, “Matt Kalil @ LT” when he threw that last pick.

    Or maybe it was Blackmon…who knows lol. Get those draft picks, get em’ good! ohhhhhhhhhh yeah!

  50. By morgan on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    I HOPE WEBB STARTS SUNDAY AND HAS A BREAK OUT GAME

  51. By Joner on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    I desperately hope we get either Blackmon or Kalil. Either 1 would help this offense loads. Kalil would probably be best for us considering the problem’s Stafford has had in Detroit, even though he’s had Calvin Johnson. Jenkins and Aroma have shown they can contribute well enough if Ponder is given time in the pocket.

    If Cook comes back, and Winfield get’s a full pre-season fitness, then we won’t be as bad in the secondary. Draft a CB or safety in 2nd round and maybe a WR in 3rd round for some depth.

  52. By Celler Dweller on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    The Losing in strange ways continues. @Fred, the coaching counts so much in close games, so we should stop counting the coaches as ‘fine.’

    I say Greenway should get called out. So many times he is making tackles, but usually the backs are plowing through or over him in the process. One SD touchdown comes to mind. He looked better because of Pat Williams, than he has this year. He is no Clay Matthews.

    As much as we need Oline, they might suffice, if we draft Defense first. If ponder stays quick and eliminates mistakes, and the recievers play like pros, rather than nobody knows. We have a chance to go postive next year.

  53. By James on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    Did you guys see how Ponder got hurt and no practice? I hope Ponder plays because im a person who likes to see throws like his.

  54. By Celler Dweller on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    Did anyone else think Web’s interference call happens often but is never called? I say let him try ‘D’ Vs Megatron. This is what losing seasons are for … Experimentation.

  55. By James on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    @Viking-oligy: I agree with u, keep Ponder in for his time that he plays in the NFL so he can get alot of experiance. Also no offence but i don’t think joe webb will be good so stick to Ponder.

  56. By James on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    @Realodon i agree with Asher Allens no good.

  57. By Deertracks on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    Mike B…Pick an outside WR reciever?

    What do you think Emanuel Areneaux is, a used car saleman?

  58. By DRS on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    If the defense shows up and plays we can win any game at any time, too bad we have had no defense this year, end of story.

    Defense wins games, offense get all the glory!

    Hire a GM that gets that!

    Go Vikes!

  59. By DRS on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    Everyone have a great day.

  60. By VegasVike on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    Let Ponder heal and give Joe the start. Joe can withstand the punishment better and could use the reps. And Titus, I think we play the UNLV Rebels and you can predict a win.

  61. By VegasVike on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    Cellar D- that would be cool

  62. By wezo on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    It’s real funny how everyone blames the O-line for the last 2 QB’s we’ve had
    Favre & now Ponder, but when T-jack played it was all his fault.
    It’s no wonder this team sucks.
    Same coaching & basically the same O-line, with a horrible 2ndary.
    Draft 2 corners Speilman in the 1st round if you want to make an impact on this team being much better.

  63. By Twoodsnvikes on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    Right now the 2012 draft order will be Colts, Rams, Vikes. The Rams have one more winnable game, but it will most likely end in this order. The Rams will either take Kalil or trade down to someone who is looking for a QB. I think it’s likely the Vikes will trade down as well. The following teams will definitely be looking for a QB in the first round in my mind: Dolphins, Seahawks, Redskins and the following teams I think are probable to be looking for a QB in the first round early: Broncos, Browns, Jaguars, Cardinals. With RG3 winning the heisman this Saturday and Matt Barkely being ranked very high, I think any of these teams would do a semi-desparate trade for either of these Qbs in our spot and we could pick up some great value and still a top 15 pick in the first round. So if we traded number three pick for anywhere between the number 12 and 15 pick, trade value would dictate an additional 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round. (Look at what Falcons gave up last year to get Julio Jones). Players that could still be available here that we would still be interested in are probably Alshon Jeffery (WR), Michael Flloyd (WR), and Jonathan Martin (OT). Let assume a WR since there are two:

    1st Round: Alshon Jeffery/Michael Flloyd (WR)
    2nd round: Chase Minnfield (CB)
    2nd round: Mark Barron (SS)
    3rd round: Levy Adco ck (OT)
    3rd round: Shaun Prater (CB)
    4th round: Keenan Robinson (OLB)
    4th round: Matt McCants (OT)
    4th round (compensatory): Amini Silatolu (OG)

    Lets say Martin is still available for us, I’d keep a few of the same players:

    1st round: Jonathan Martin (OT)
    2nd round: Chase Minnfield (CB)
    2nd round: Mark Barron (SS)
    3rd round: Lucas Nix (OG)
    3rd round: Shaun Prater (CB)
    4th round: Keenan Robinson (OLB)
    4th round: Marvin McNutt (WR)
    4th round (compensatory): George Iloka (FS)

    *Notes: Many of you I’m sure want Kalil, but I think the Rams will either take Kalil ahead of us or trade down to get additional picks much like us since they are not going to go for a QB. So Kalil could be gone. In addition, with the Vikes having SO many need areas, the prospect of picking up additional early round picks might be too attractive to pick up, as simulated in this mock.
    Some might question the OLB pick, but the truth is our LBs had some major troubles in the pass this year. Robinson has shown good pass coverage ability and he plays a bit nasty and getting some aggressive players on defense is definitely something we need.
    In addition, I think the following players need to be targeted/heavily considered by the Vikes in addition to the draft:
    DBS: Finnegan, Branch, Porter, Landry
    WR: V. Jackson, Bowe

  64. By Viking33 on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    What are we doing and what are we going to do. If you want to see a partial parade of Vikings Vice Presidents check out the Stadium Clip posted on 12/7. Our Achilles heal for years has been pass coverage!! People have asked this question – “Why can’t we be good for 2 halves??” It is not a mystery – we are good until teams either have to throw on us or until they figure out that to do anything but throw on us is ridiculous. #1 problem in the offseason FIX THE PASS DEFENSE and that will make us a 500 team at minimum next season. I wouldnt care if they took a Defensive player at every pick in 2012 – Find some Studs. Trade away the 2 pick for more picks – Beef up that D – use free agency to tweak Offense.

  65. By Viking33 on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    Does anyone remember that Patriot game a few years ago – the year we were ridiculously good in Run Defense?? Brady came into the Metrodome and on the First play of the game they tried to run the ball. Then they passed on just about every play after that – the first TD they scored was out of the same formation they used on the first Run play of the game and they play action passed for an easy score. It was downhill from there. That was the game that gave the rest of the league the blueprint to beat us. Just throw on them – they can’t stop it. Since then we have not really addressed our issue with any urgency, even as the league continued to throw it more and more and more, we did nothing but boast our Run Defense. With the real emergence of Rodgers last year, we should have jumped at shoring up our Defensive Backfield with what was sure to come….but nothing again.

  66. By VegasVike on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    Wezo when Tjack played (07-08?) the O line was better, just like it was for Favre in 09. a fairer comparison would be Favre & Webb in 2010 or McNabb & Ponder this year.

  67. By Old School on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    I have to admit, I agree with Frederick Jones on his commit about drafting Luck! I think Ponder is ok……………BUT JUST OK! He had injury problems in college and look now……..”Hip Pointer”…….Got to be stronger than that! I see him as being a great back up…….a guy that can come in and know the offense and not lose it for you! I don’t see him as a guy that will ever be a QB that will WIN it for you!

    He isn’t the guy that will take you to a SuperBowl unless you have the “D” of the 85 Bears or the Ravens “D” when they won the SuperBowl!

  68. By Old School on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    He’s a Trent Dilfer! Smart……not great talent wise…………good talent…but not great!

  69. By James on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    Darn Ponder might not play.

  70. By Ponder4president on Dec 8, 2011 | Reply

    @Old School, you do realize Ponder broke a record for minnesota rookie QB’s last game right? he also threw 3 tds(yes he threw 2 INT’s) but if our terrible secondary didnt leave a WR WIDE OPEN on multiple occassions which lead to Denver scores we would not be throwing the ball at that point in the game. He has no offensive line.. he takes 2 steps and has to scramble away from defenders, and the only credible WR on the team is Percy. Peyton manning threw 28 INT’s his rookie season compared to 26 TDS. HES A ROOKIE! im sorry, but thank god you are not evaluating talent for the team.

  71. By greatirishpotatofamine on Dec 9, 2011 | Reply

    If we end up with Claiborne and Mark Barron id be very happy

  72. By Skip Bayless on Dec 9, 2011 | Reply

    Aren’t you guys used to losing by now? Will the Vikings win another game this year? Doubtful. Will they make the playoffs next year? Highly unlikely. Should they get used to losing? Yeah, that would be the rational thing to do.

  73. By Old School on Dec 10, 2011 | Reply

    I said he was good……I said I don’t think he will be great!

    That’s all I said!

    You can disagree with me of course.

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