Notes From Frazier’s Monday Press Conference

Posted by Mike Wobschall on December 5, 2011 – 2:57 pm

Vikings Head Coach Leslie Frazier held his customary day-after-the-game press conference on Monday and came away from the film room with the same emotion he displayed immediately after Sunday’s loss – mistakes in the 2nd half overshadowed a lot of positive developments.

“After having had a chance to go back and look at the tape, those breakdowns in the second half really nullified a great effort by so many guys on our team,” Frazier said. “Guys coming out fighting and really playing to win; a number of guys. Percy, Toby, Jared, Kevin Williams, just a number of guys across the board battling. But we had some breakdowns in our secondary that really hurt us in the second half of that ball game.”

Frazier also cited turnovers and a special teams lapse as mistakes, ultimately acknowledging that “we are just not good enough at this point to overcome some of our own mistakes.”

As resigned as Frazier has been since the end of Sunday’s game, he actually sounds even more determined to help his team get past those mistakes and start playing better football.

“It’s something that you are concerned about and we will keep working at it as a team and as a staff,” Frazier said. “We have four games remaining this regular season, none more important than this game coming against Detroit. We have to work extremely hard to try to fix some of the problems that showed up. That kind of takes away from all the good things that did occur during the course of the game when you don’t get a win.”

Here are a few more notes from Frazier’s press conference on Monday…

Turning to Page?
Last week the Vikings made a bevy of roster moves, mostly due to injuries, and one of those moves was the signing of free agent S Jarrad Page, a 6-year veteran out of UCLA. Page has 45 career starts in his NFL career, including 5 this season with the Eagles and 1 last year in New England. Page won’t be in the starting lineup this week against the Lions, but Frazier did say on Monday that he could get some playing time on defense on a rotational basis this week.

“We are hoping he can,” Frazier said. “He did some really good things on special teams yesterday, so the fact that he has started some games this year in the League and he seemed to pick up things pretty well at the end of last week.  We are going to try to give him a little bit more and wee if he can get in the game and help us out. We are going to look at that depending on how he practices this week.”

Rosenfels’ role
Another one of the roster moves made last week was the signing of veteran Sage Rosenfels. This is Rosenfels’ second stint with the Vikings – he was with the team in 2009 – and while at some point Rosenfels could emerge as the backup, right now Joe Webb will be the #2 QB. This is an important note this week because starting QB Christian Ponder is dealing with a hip injury.

“That would be Joe,” Frazier said when asked if Rosenfels would take 1st-team reps should Ponder miss practice time. “Sage is not at that point, and I talked with Sage about his role on the team and he’s comfortable being that third guy and really helping Christian, along with Joe, to develop. But he wouldn’t be far enough along to put in a starting role.”

Happy having Herrera back
RG Anthony Herrera made his return to the starting lineup after battling back from another knee injury, this one sustained against the Green Bay Packers on October 23. Herrera made the Vikings roster as an undrafted free agent and has ascended the depth chart to establish himself as a starter. With that as his professional background and with a fiery attitude, Herrera gives the Vikings offensive line a needed edge at times, so Frazier was happy to have Herrera back in the lineup on Sunday.

“He played well,” Frazier said. “He had some moments where he struggled a little bit and then he really got his legs under him and played extremely well. It was great having him out there. He gives us some leadership, brings some intensity to our offensive line. We missed him. It was good just to have his presence on our offensive line. He brings a different vibe to our offense and gives us something that lacks at times.”

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119 Responses to “Notes From Frazier’s Monday Press Conference”

  1. By DesertViking on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    How about he says who he’s going to bench in the secondary after that horrible display of pass defense. Does Jamarca Sanford know how to play cover 2? It seemed like he thought we were playing cover 1, or man to man. And I blame him because, to me, it looked like both Griffin and Burton thought the Sanford would help them over the top while they covered the flats, but Sanford was no where to be seen.
    How about Griffin too? He’s given up too many touchdowns and hasn’t been the same since his two knee injuries.

  2. By Regfan on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    The Vikings are being run into the ground by horrible coaching

  3. By Viking Joe on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    The Vikings secondary is atrocious, but that being said it was a sore spot going into the season, I hope they draft a CB and S in the draft , and maybe sign a top flight CB.

  4. By Viking Joe on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Griffin is not a CB anymore, they need to move him to S, or just cut their losses,
    he’s not the sme after 2 ACL surgeries.

  5. By Viking Joe on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply


  6. By Deertracks on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    I say, have Ponder heal up and give the helm to Joe Webb! For crying out loud, what little bit of the season is left, allow us to see just what these young players can do!!

  7. By Viking-ology on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Zigi said he expects to keep Frazier on next year, which I would expect it-even though I still have my doubts. One thing for sure is he MUST get a new Defensive coordinator with a new scheme-ours is absolute garbage and is the laughingstock of the NFL. The draft must address our horrific pass D, then O-line. Hopefully we can grab a #1 WR in free agency.

  8. By Troutdaddy on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Again, secondary cost us yet another game. Blame goes to them alone! Our O-Line showed so much heart and skill today. Our receives are giving us hope for next year. Harvin- simply amazing! For those who trashed Ponder early on this year, he did an amazing job as well. Even though his interception at the end was so dis-heartening and a game-ender, it is still a good learing for him to get him better. Play calling was much improved from offense and we actually showed some guts for a change. Not sure if it was just Ponder doing great stuff or if our coaching actually counted here. WOW! They used Webb as a receiver!!! Are they actually listening to the fans for once??? Freaking miracle!!!

  9. By Viking-ology on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Deertracks-Ponder will be fine, he is our QB, but I agree with you on Webb-it seems like they just don’t know how to get him in games without it making our offense stumble. Unfortunately,I don’t expect too much change unless Sage is ready to step in as a backup. Webb has to stay limited since he is #2 QB right now.

  10. By Andrew on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    I say draft a CB first round.
    2nd round Trade to eagles for Asante Samuel
    then be smart with the rest of the draft.
    move Winfied to safety. Try to land a free Agent WR.
    gonna need shout down corners to stop GB

  11. By Prinz Charlez on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Going into next season we really do need to find a DEF coordinator promoting Mike Singetary wouldn’t be a bad idea. They aleady have the vikes drafting OKLA State WR Blackmon in the 1st round, secondary is a train wreck and with the pass happy teams in our division we must improve.

  12. By Mike B. on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Who’s going to tell Fred there will be no changes in the Front office or Coaching Staff. Wilf said Frazier will be back next year. It will be up to Fraizer if he’s going to make changes to his staff. There will be no General Manager next year. I don’t agree with this, but that’s the owners decision. I didn’t think that Frazier would be let go this year but I can’t see the team improving much under this leadership.

  13. By Parody on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    No General Manager next year? Well if that’s true, it still sounds better than the 6-headed General Manager that Fred has been complaining about all year long…

  14. By Mike B. on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    @Troutdaddy You watch the first half at all? The OL almost got our QB taken out of the game. It was very shakey in the first half, but got better in the second half.

  15. By Derrick.G on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

  16. By Mike B. on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    @Deertracks Joe Webb has no future as a Vikings QB. If he wants to be a QB in the NFL, he’s going to have to ask for a trade or release. If he wants to be a starter with the Vikings, his best bet is to become a WR and practice as a WR. I think if they don’t move Webb to WR next year. The team will trade him for a 3rd or 4th round pick. He is too talented of a player to leave on the bench, but he’s not a starting NFL QB even though he did that as a back up last year. Another failed Childress experiement. I am also predicting that TJack will be a back up somewhere next year and not a starting QB. I think Seahawks will draft or bring in a Vet QB to replace him.

  17. By Mike B. on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    @Derrick G that maybe well be right, but the Wilfs have to decide to get a GM and from what I have been reading they aren’t going to do that.

  18. By Mike B. on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Cedrick Griffin may just come back and prove us wrong next year, but he’s not proving it this year. The team is too depleted at CB to move Griffin out, so we have to take the good with the bad. I do think Frazier gives him until next year’s training camp to get back to 100%, but that’s it.

  19. By Mike B. on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    My draft predictions:

    Round 1 WR
    Round 2 OT
    Round 3 CB or OG most of the good CBs are gone by this round.
    Round 4 Safety
    Round 5 DL
    Round 6 OT
    Round 7 CB

  20. By Shawn on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    GMs can be good an bad … teams have won super bowls without GMs

    The patriots run a similar chain of command and they were the last dynasty

    Frazier deserves a chance …. I have seen his growth this year. Now he just needs a real offseason to fix some things. He didnt have a full offseason and he was 20 million over the cap.

    He got rid of Berrian … NICE

    He got rid of Cindy Rice … great call

    He let TJack go … Thank you

    He got Peterson and Greenway under contract long term

    McKinnie was a classic underacheiver who is having a decent year this season but is getting into the last of his years … last of the love boat gone

    I think he stabalized the organization that was in critical condition … the Chilly mess is gone and now Frazier knows where to start strengthening

  21. By Mike B. on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    @ Shawn I disagree with you getting rid of Sidney Rice and not get a replacement was a bad move. Also getting rid of McKinney without trying to motivate him or have a replacement at equal level is a bad move. Those two moves alone cause a lot of the problems we have on Offense. Sorry but it’s true. With Sidney they would have to respect our ability to go long and not keep so many in the box. Even when McKinney wasn’t playing so well that left side was the best in the league. His performance with the Ravens now proves that. I didn’t expect Frazier to get cut after only one year, but I don’t feel he’s Head Coach material. I hope he proves me wrong. Other two I agree with you.

  22. By Viking-ology on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Perhaps the Wilf’s need to meet with a first class organization to get a grasp of what needs to be done to be a winning organization. I still belive the Wilf’s are commited to excellence-in Minny. Maybe Kraft in New England can give them some advice.

  23. By Shawn on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Mike B … I understand. However Sidney wanted money and he is on the IR finishing the season with 30ish catches. That what Sidney is hurt all the time.

    I will give you McKinnie but IMO he did the right thing with Sidney.

  24. By Shawn on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Mike B the only thing we would have with Sidney is a lot of money in street clothes … dont get caught up in a one year wonder

    Again your argument of McKinnie I can see

  25. By Viking-ology on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Mike B. I think Frazier was trying to make a statement early, unfortunately it backfired on him. Although I am not sure if Rice would have been a real factor (he is always hurt) we should have replaced him with a legit #1 because our version of that is a #3 at best. He let Mckinney go because he was out of shape, but so was McNaab, so what does that say.

  26. By Mike B. on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    I look at Sidney situation as this did he want a lot of money. Yes and his performance in 2009 would mean he should get a Top WR salary. Did He get the top money from Seattle no as his performance in 2010 was not to expectations, but he shown some of the glitz from 2009. Was it more than the Vikings should pay yes, if they had a Top WR in the wings to replace him. At that time there were Top WR availible. It’s the choice I disagree with. You need to have a Top WR on the team and Berrian wasn’t it.

  27. By AZvikesfan on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    wouldnt be suprised to see pagac gone next season. during the game on sunday, i saw fraiser talking the db’s on the sideline and it looked like he was calling some plays.

  28. By Mike B. on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    I don’t think Sidney would be a Seahawk if Bevell was not the OC there. No other team was beating on Sidney’s door.

  29. By Viking-ology on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Frazier hired/signed up people he was comfortable with-that is the biggest problem with the demise of this year. He knew McNaab when he was in Philly and thougt Shanahan was wrong and decided it would work out fine-well we saw that train wreck. He hired Singletary because he played with him and their friends-in my opinion, the linebackers have taken a step backwards. Frazier went with whats comfortable, and not necessarily what is best for the team. He needs to make amends and do whats best for the team next year and bring in the right coaching staff-starting with a new Defensive Coordinator.

  30. By Viking Joe on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Rice was good because of Favre, and now he is on the IR for Seattle, he’s britle and fragile, I’m glad he’s not a Viking anymore !!!.

  31. By VegasVike on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Wouldn’t it be awesome if the Bears signed Brett Favre and he debuted against the packers and spoiled their perfect record. Oh Cali man! How AWESOME would that be??????????????????????? CALI!!!!

  32. By Viking-ology on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Reading the headlines (above the blogs)”Frazier unhappy with secondary’s play” says it all. “Tampa two” doesn’t work anymore. Our pass defense is why we have lost the last 3 Championship games. (Atlanta,Giants,Saints) Frazier MUST get a new defensive mind in Minnesota for next year, otherwise it will be the same old dissapointing story. I’m fed up with other teams passing us by because we refuse to make necessary changes.

  33. By Viking-ology on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    VegasVike-Due to his contract with Wrangler Jeans, Favre would not be allowed to play football in the NFL unless he showcases ‘proper’ attire!

  34. By CaribooBill on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    In the same way that Favre brought out the best in our receivers, I predict that Ponder will do the same with Aromashodu and Burton, along with Rudolph, IF yesterday’s performance was any indication. I hate to lose, but I am also interested in seeing what we have at WR – we know what we have at RB. I think Frazier’s emphasis on the passing game yesterday was smart. It also, unfortunately, puts Ponder at risk, but he had to learn to gash them when they blitz – I think he did that. Several bloggers have asked to see “what the young guys can do” – well, we’re seeing that now, especially with the secondary. My fear is that our guys will get discouraged (who could blame them?) and give up. The Detroit game will be a crucial test of that. It could be a wide-open scorefest.

  35. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    I expect the Detroit game to be nasty and physical– even without adamkungsoo. I hope we have no injuries to our stars –

  36. By Viking-ology on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Devin A. did have a good game, who knows, he may become a decent receiver. I’m glad Gerhart had a good game he’s a hard worker. Hopefully they can use some two RB sets with AP & Toby, or add Harvin in there the offense opened up for the first time against Denver, hopefully that will continue when AP comes back.

  37. By Viking-ology on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Can anyone remember the last time our secondary intercepted a pass from the opposing QB?

  38. By Frederick Jones on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    @Titus and Parody…if that is really you…

    The Wilfs have made promises before, and not held to them. Certainly you know any promise to keep the head coach is just pure junk!


  39. By Frederick Jones on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    @Mike B.,

    Joe Webb has more athletic talent in his pinky than any blogger has in his whole body!!!

    He can be what he wants to be in the NFL!!!

  40. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Frederick, do you think we will win next week?

  41. By VegasVike on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Favre loves to showcase…ERR… showboat??

  42. By Frederick Jones on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply


    Here goes WW III…

    Shawn… the Patriots are run by Bill Belichick, and that is not earth-shattering news.
    In addition Robert Kraft is known for his non-meddling ways!!!

    The Vikings….
    Personnel who knows what he is freaking doing!!!


  43. By Frederick Jones on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply


    I don’t think the Vikings will ever win a game again until they restructure
    their administration!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  44. By Frederick Jones on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    The coach must, has to be, should, could, would be in charge of PERSONNEL!!!

  45. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    I think Denny Green or Brian Billick would be a good GM for the Vikings.

  46. By DesertViking on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    I think the last DB to intercept a pass was Asher Allen… sad.

  47. By TheRealDon on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    I’m sorry but if we don’t take a corner 1st round and oline 2nd..I will not be watching next season..Please do something with this off season too..

  48. By Shawn on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    @Fred … I dont know. Maybe your right. All I was saying is there are other franchises that dont employ a “GM” . Im not arguing things are bad and things need to be done. I dont care how we win as long as we start winning.

    Not goin to be WW3 , Im not sure your wrong. Im also not sure your right. So if the Vikings get a “GM” fine and if they dont fine. I just want to win and the only way it will happen is if we get more talent. Specifically OL and DB.

    Did you watch Fraziers presser? cause mr calm cool collected Frazier was audibly and visually bothered by the poor DB play and even mentioned some OL play … so maybe Frazier just needs a full offseason to fix what he sees.

  49. By Mike B. on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    @Fred You maybe right but he won’t be a QB with the Vikings that is pretty obvious. Wilf has stated he doesn’t plan any changes at the head coach position or in the front office. You are failing to look at the reporting and leading with your opinion. I do agree we need a GM but it’s Wilf’s team to do with as he wishes. I think he sees the writing on the wall and knows he’s got at least one more year in the metrodome without a stadium resolution, so no incentive to make big changes. that’s my opinion.

  50. By Mike B. on Dec 5, 2011 | Reply

    Not the starting QB anyway

  51. By Animal26 on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    this is how the draft should go
    Round 1: LT Matt Kalil
    Round 2: if he’s there OG Kelechi Osemele
    Round 3: Wide receiver or defensive tackle
    round 4 : Corner
    Round 5: Safety
    Round 6: corner
    Round 7: Defensive tackle

  52. By wacky on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    frazier sucks!!! and the hole staff! start cutting them!

  53. By mILITARYvIKING on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    We will see how D.A. Does next week verses Detroit. Next year draft= Kalil LT, WR Tall speedy, then after that it is a toss up of D backs

  54. By Mike I on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Hey Frazier your whole secondary sucks not just Griffin that’s what’s wrong with you stop singling players out shen its clear they all suck. And its not like Asher Allen will make a difference were Vikings fans we watch games so tell that b.s. to someone with no knowledge we all know how horrible Asher Allen is in fact were all happy he’s not playing. At least Griffin was good for our team before injury, Asher Allen has never been good he’s just taking up space on our roster. You seem to lack a good head coach IQ you make the worst decisions and your terrible at evaluating talent.

  55. By Bigfan1 on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    I think you can somewhat accurately predict who the Vikes will pick in the first few rounds since they stick to the best player philosophy. It also depends on who they think they most need, I would say first round either the star cornerback from LSU Morris Claiborne or the star OT Matt Kalil.

  56. By Bigfan1 on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Based on what’s happening this year I predict Claiborne.

  57. By Deertracks on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Mike B…Webb never a Viking starting QB? Where did you buy your Crystal Ball?…

    Wait until Ponder gets his head handed to him by the Deroit Def…A sure event with the non-protection of a non-Viking O-Line..

  58. By Mike B. on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    @Deertracks Suh is out for the game against MN and Fairley is not 100 percent, so it won’t be as bad as your thinking. Even so the most Webb will be is to come in and back up Ponder. Ponder is the future QB of this organization and almost everyone is on board on this. Webb if he wants to play as a starter for the Vikings is going to have ot excel at another position or ask for a trade. Just how I see it and from all the input I am getting is how it is going to be.

  59. By King Vike on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    The defensive side can be adjusted with Singletary as the D-Coordinator (Passion), and then recruiting Pat Williams to be the line-coach (Discipline) and Antoine Winfield (Intelligence) as the defensive backs coach.

    As for the offensive side we need players that can open holes for AP to run with full violence, Kalil (USC) and Asper (Oregon U.) would be a fitting prospect for the O-line; but if we really want to think out of the universe (box) we should get two sumo wrestlers for guard and tackle.

  60. By Animal26 on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    King Vike: Kelechi Osemele I believe would be a better prospect then Asper. If the Vikings stay where they are on the draft board, they will have a great chance of scooping up Kalil and Osemele. If that happens, then this years draft will have been very successful. if those two picks are done, then the Vikings can look for safeties, corners, defensive tackles, and wide receivers the rest of the draft, if they’re any good quality players at those positions after the 2nd round.

  61. By Animal26 on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    otherwise, they should go after the best player available approach.

  62. By Regfan on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    True,The fans know more about the players than the coaches do

  63. By Twoodsnvikes on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Option 1:
    First Round Matt Kalil OT
    Second Round Kelechi Osemele OG
    Third Round Marvin McNutt WR Trade down for extra fourth round
    Fourth Round Donnie Fletcher SS
    Fourth Round Josh Robinson CB
    Fourth Round Ryan Broyles WR Compensatory
    Free Agent Laron Landry SS
    Free Agent Cortland Finnegan CB
    Option 2:
    First Round Michael Flloyd WR Trade down for extra second round
    Second Round Xavier Rhodes CB trade down for extra 3rd round
    Second Round Markelle Martin FS
    Third Round Lucas Nix OG
    Third Round Coby Fleener TE
    Fourth Round Antonio Allen SS
    Fourth Round Ryan Broyles WR Compensatory
    Free Agent Kareem McKenzie OT
    Free Agent Tyvon Branch CB
    Option 3:
    First Round Morris Claiborne CB Trade down for extra second round
    Second Round Kelechi Osemele OG
    Second Round Markelle Martin FS
    Third Round Nate Potter OT Trade down for extra fourth round
    Fourth Round Antonio Allen SS
    Fourth Round Donnie Fletcher CB
    Fourth Round Ryan Broyles WR Compensatory
    Free Agent Tracy Porter CB
    Free Agent Dwayne Bowe WR
    Option 4:
    First Round David Decastro OG Trade down for extra second
    Second Round Xavier Rhodes CB
    Second Round Mark Barron SS
    Third Round Coby Fleener TE
    Fourth Round Devier Posey WR
    Fourth Round Jeff Fuller WR Compensatory
    Free Agent Tracy Porter CB
    Free Agent Kareem McKenzie OT

  64. By Springs on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Zigi should move the team to LA…fire all the coaches…and start anew.

  65. By Springs on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    The vikings are losing so they can move up in the draft.

  66. By sandiamond on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Twoods option4 is the worst mock i have ever seen! we would give up a lot taking a guard @ 18 or so. Xavier Rhodes is a Sop and not eligible for the draft. yes we could pray that Barron is still on the table in the 2nd. Another tight end? then 2 receivers with another bust from texas a&m like burton

    Animal why wait to the 4-6 rounds to addres the secondary? I promise you all CB’s will be long gone by then

  67. By MG on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    1st priority: OLine, specifically LT
    2: CB
    3: WR
    4: S
    5: LB
    6: DLine

    Even if we just get one above-average player at OL, CB and WR, they will win 3-5 more games. We need to strike gold in the first 2 rounds (since we suck at finding talent in 3rd round onwards) – so trade up for another 1st or 2nd round pick. Don’t trade away our first-round pick (which will be very high) – trade some combo of 3rd through 7th round picks to get another 2nd.

  68. By Deertracks on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    @Mike B….Why are you so down on Joe Webb….Did you see last years Vikings – Detroit game? Webb put on a real show of what he can do…In fact Chris Hollingworth and Al Michaels doing the game on TV had nothing but praise for Webb…At that time, statements were made that Joe should be trained as the Vikings QB of the future…I wish no bad luck for Ponder, but when he gets smashed because of NO PROTECTION, then we will see what Joe has…

  69. By TheRealDon on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Option 3:
    First Round Morris Claiborne CB Trade down for extra second round
    Second Round Kelechi Osemele OG
    Second Round Markelle Martin FS
    Third Round Nate Potter OT Trade down for extra fourth round
    Fourth Round Antonio Allen SS
    Fourth Round Donnie Fletcher CB
    Fourth Round Ryan Broyles WR Compensatory
    Free Agent Tracy Porter CB
    Free Agent Dwayne Bowe WR

  70. By Deertracks on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Joe is the Number 2 QB…And like you said, he can jump and has large hands..Bettewr to grip the football and sent that ball downfield right on target,,,As he does very well..

  71. By Deertracks on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    MG…Nice list, but you could leave out the “WR” thing..

    Why get another one? We have:

    Devin Aromashodu
    Greg Camarillo
    Emanuel Areneaux

    Frazier has not really used these Wide Recievers…And All have good records in their positions…

  72. By DRS on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    # 1 need a Defense, # 2 need a GM, # 3 need O-line, # 4 a new home for the Vikings. Other the that nothing more to say.


  73. By DRS on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Defenses wins games, and the offense get the glory,

    Peace to everyone.

  74. By DuaneN on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Deertracks, Webb showed that he can lose a game by missing a wide open TD by 10 yards. I’m pretty sure it was Booker.

    Webb could be a really good QB in like 3 years. He’s a project I hope the Vikings keep.

    I like Frazier. Wouldn’t really care if he got fired but he is far from the problem imo. Coaches are so overrated, I’ll take a great QB anyday.

    How did Belichek do without LT or Brady? Not good.

  75. By Twoodsnvikes on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    @Sandiamond, that makes you stupid then, it’s clearly an offense powered draft, each one is different, look at the draft a little better and get back to me k?

  76. By Frederick Jones on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply


    Well that makes two of us that don’t exactly KNOW what the Vikings are doing.
    About 95% of the other bloggers ARE SURE.
    It’s not as simple as firing the HC or cutting the quarterback.

    I’m shooting for the moon (HIRE A GENERAL MANAGER). I might not get it, but I’ll get something.

  77. By Frederick Jones on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    @Mike B.,

    Well I don’t have a crystal ball, and you don’t either.

    All I know is that Joe is talented, and if QB is what he wants to play…I hope he gets a chance in Minnesota.

  78. By Frederick Jones on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply


    Billick and Green were a good combination before….perhaps they will be even better in round 2.

    I don’t think we are that far away from having a good team. But continually drafting where we are strong seems stupid.

  79. By Frederick Jones on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply


  80. By Frederick Jones on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply


    It’s good to hear from you. Lately it seem like the DBs have become the number 1 need, even over the OL.

    I think our Defensive Line is pretty good against the pass, though they do give up too many yards rushing up the middle.

    Still, I would stand Pat (okay we miss Williams) and make getting DBs and OLs the priority.

    I believe good DBs would make the LBs and DLs adequate.

  81. By Frederick Jones on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply


    Great draft plan. Will you be applying for the GM position in the near future?

    My thoughts are that if you don’t get in the draft will look more like this:

    1st QB
    2nd RB
    3rd DE
    4th S
    5th OL
    6th WR
    7th K

    (and we might have to draft a kicker this year, longwell may be losing leg strength)

  82. By Frederick Jones on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    The boys in the booth (ESPN, or FOX) were shocked with the Vikings draft this year, and they received a ‘D’ from most pundits.

    Those boys were laughing.

  83. By Frederick Jones on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Yes, you pick the best athlete. But lol, you cover your weaknesses first.

    Common sense ain’t so common in the Vikings drafting room these days.

    What can we, THE FANS, do about it?

    Well I have not seen anything close to my suggestion. The rest of the
    suggestions are tired and true.


  84. By Frederick Jones on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    I truly wish someone would come up with a solution that is better than my own.

    But I will not stand by and watch the Vikings draft so stupidly like they did last year.

    (Maybe Love, and Fusco will be the new Senser)

    in the meantime…


  85. By Frederick Jones on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Hey, Mike Wobschall,

    What’s up with the “No comments” BS?

    Are you trying to anger those already angered???

  86. By Frederick Jones on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    @ Mike Wobschall,

    What’s up with the “No comments” BS?

    Are you trying to anger those already angered???

  87. By Frederick Jones on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    at Mike Wobschall,

    What’s up with the “No comments” BS?

    Are you trying to anger those already angered???

  88. By Mike B. on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    I don’t need a crystal ball to know that Ponder is the QB of the future for the Vikings. It’s been stated by the Coach and many others. Unless some debilitating injury occurs Ponder is the starting QB for the Vikings. I stated at the beginning of the season that the Vikings were going to draft a QB and indeed we did draft a QB. I also stated that Webb would be the number 2 or 3 QB and again I was correct. I also think Webb is a talented player, but he’s not starting NFL QB material. Maybe some other team may give him that opportunity, but I don’t see it with the Vikings. You can hope and wish all you want it doesn’t change a thing. Just like the General Manager the Wilfs like their dozen VPs and stated they aren’t going to change. Fans don’t have control over the team other than purchasing tickets and merchandise. I don’t need a crystal ball I read and stay informed. Have a Nice Day

  89. By Frederick Jones on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply




    lol x 7

  90. By Glenn on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    I have been a loyal Viking’s fn for 41 years now. I am not sure how much more dissapointment that I can take! ANXIETY and STRESS describe my feelings now. In my opinion, it is all about money now. We have to spend to win because you get wht you pay for! We need a BIG name coach like Cowher or Gruden or Parcells!!! We need tht type of scouting talent that can put a roster together that can go all the way. It is a sad state of affairs. I believe that it was a sign that te 2011 season would collapse just like the roof of th MetroDOOM did. Time to pay the big bucks and start from scratch. It will take 2-4 years,but I see no other options. That is just my humble opinion.. Do not be surprised if you hear talk about the Vikings to be non existant, and to be located to another state. It is a REAL possibility!!! Go Vikes! Glenn

  91. By Mike B. on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    @ Fred I don’t think Mike W wanted to detract from the good works that the post is directed at. I think it is a smart move. Maybe though it would fit in the Headlines section. Toys for Tots is a good cause.

  92. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Fred– My thoughts exactly. WHY???? Why is an article posted in the blogs but no blogging is allowed??? WHY??? The Vikings organization needs a retooling from the very top to the very bottom– every part should shine in excellence. That is the way of a champion!

  93. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Actually that post was by Ryan Cardinal, although secretly, I think Ryan and Mike are the same, acting the way many bloggers do: changing aliases. That way it looks like Mike has a staff.

  94. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Interesting article on Adamakunshuh today– he apparently was hot dogging with his vehicle when he slammed into a tree or pole– witnesses say he screeched his tires, trying to show off. Tow passengers said they were hurt and Suh told them they were okay and refused to take them to a hospital- they left and went for medical help and now want the police report changed but the police refuse to re-open the case. If this is all true, that man is racing toward a fast end, either career or life– or both. Anyone see the Saints game– the Lions were their own train wreck. Did anyone see the one Lion attack the official– it wasn’t much, but he should have been ejected.

  95. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Correction– That was suppose to be Two passengers, not Tow– lol.

  96. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Am I the only one alive tonight in vikingland???

  97. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    I also read today about another bid by the Minneapolis mayor to build the new stadium where the dome currently resides.

  98. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply


  99. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    The site says I am posting too quickly– well, I am posting for all of Viking Nation!!!!!

  100. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply


  101. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    I know how to attract bloggers…

  102. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    HIRE A GM!!!

  103. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    WE cannot win with TWO MILLION HEADS and no leadership. Hire ONE GM.

  104. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Mike — please proof your articles.

  105. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply


  106. By Parody on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Titus…somebody looks bored! You should change your name if you’re going to impersonate other bloggers.

  107. By Frederick Jones on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    Really, Parody, like to what?

  108. By Parody on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    That is better Titus!

  109. By V for Vikings Nation on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    I feel sorry for Aaron Rodgers– he will never live up to his rating this year again– in fact, his team will decline starting next year and the Vikings will arise.

  110. By TITANIUM TITUS on Dec 6, 2011 | Reply

    I try, Parody, I try.

  111. By CA_Viking_fan on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    There are some really smart draft wish lists here, but watch here’s how the draft will go for the Vikings something like this:
    1. RB
    2. TE
    3. K
    4. LB
    5. DE
    6. QB

  112. By Bigfan1 on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Why don’t the Vikes use Rudolph more, his catching ability is fantastic.

  113. By Troy on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    I had to laugh at Frazier and other articles I have seen about our depleted secondary. Another excuse, are they kidding our secondary has been bad for years now and Frazier is just noticing? Being depleted has nothing to do with it.

    And they talk like losing Asher Allen is a big blow, HAHA, thank god he isnt in anymore. Griffin needs to be benched as well for his performance, he is supposed be our veteran conerback, he is awful.

  114. By purplegoldman on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Vikes finaly move Joe Webb to wide reciever permanently, About time. Now move De Andre Reed to the Mike Line Backer Position and Chritian Ballard to the Left Defensive End.

  115. By purplegoldman on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    There are only 6 shut down Corner Backs in the 2012 draft, So that had better be the Vikes picks in round #1 and Round #2 if one is still available. then O line. Otherwise the O Line and D Line can be adressed in free agentcey. There are alot of free agent O Line and D Line pro bowlers available for 2012. Then we can use our #1 and #2 draft pick in 2013 for OT and left DE and then release our free agents that we signed in 2012 in 2014 and start our 2nd year Ot DE rookies.

  116. By NorthwoodsVikesFan on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Mike B – you have good points, but I have to disagree with you on McKinnie. McKinnie was getting beat more often than eggs at IHOP (just ask Favre), and he had frequent false starts. Johnson provides about the same level of protection, but has fewer penalties.

    Loadholt is in the same boat. Big, strong guy, but not fast enough to handle a speed rusher.

  117. By purplegoldman on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    We need to start a toy drive For the Wallstreet protesters Occupy. and call it Toys For Snotts and then hand out the Entittlement Barbie Doll and the You Owe Me Ken Doll. and the I deserve It Talk and tell Doll.

  118. By ozzinator on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Ha, good one purplegoldman!
    Entitlement is right………..

  119. By Regfan on Dec 7, 2011 | Reply

    Well I hope Asher Allen heals up to give the Vikings a chance at winning

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