Frazier: Vikings Fighting To Get “Over The Top” In Close Games

Posted by Mike Wobschall on December 1, 2011 – 7:38 am

The Vikings 2011 season has not gone according to plan, as a lopsided 2-9 record has the team far from the expectations that preceded the season. But while the Vikings record to this point in the season is lopsided, most of the team’s 9 losses have not been lopsided mismatches. That shouldn’t come as any sort of consolation to the team or its fans, but it does indicate that the Vikings are capable of turning it around over the last 5 games of this season.

The type of losses the Vikings have suffered on the road to the Bears (29 points) and Packers (38 points) have been rare this season. In fact, outside of those defeats the Vikings have lost just one other game by more than 7 points. The Vikings are 1-6 in games decided by 8 points or fewer, and the team lost its first 4 games of the season by a combined 19 points (4.75 points per game). Add to that the fact that the Vikings held leads of 10, 17 and 20 points at halftime of their first 3 games, and it’s clear this Vikings team has the capability to win any given week.

Vikings Head Coach Leslie Frazier refuses to blame the losses on injuries or bad luck, and instead explained that his team just hasn’t been able to make the plays necessary to grind out close wins. But he also shouldered some of the blame on himself and insisted that his team continues to battle on a weekly basis to get things turned around.

“I think our team has been fighting week in and week out and we haven’t made enough plays to get over the top in some games,” Frazier said on Wednesday. “More angry with myself in not being able to get us where we needed to be so we wouldn’t be 2-9, but I think our guys have fought week in and week out and tried to put us in a position in the fourth quarter to have a chance to win games and we just have to find a way to get over the hump so we can gain some confidence and build on that and hopefully that will be this weekend.”

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30 Responses to “Frazier: Vikings Fighting To Get “Over The Top” In Close Games”

  1. By Dave on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    We need to finish strong no matter what. because we are THE VIKINGS and we always battle no matter what.

  2. By Maryland Boy Troy on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    The best way to get over the hump and when more close games is to be sucessful on 3rd downs on both sides of the ball.The vikings are poor on 3rd downs on offence mainly because of the very poor play of their offensive line.They are poor on 3rd down on defence because they have the worse secondary in the NFL.Also they have no playmakers in their secondary theirfore they create little if any turnovers Hire a G.M., Hire a G.M. Hire a G.M. Hire a G.M. How am i doing Fred?

  3. By vikings4life on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Fire Spielman We need a real GM my vote is Tony Dungy. A lot of connections to MInnesota itself and Leslie and yes he said he didnt want to come and consult or coach but if we offered him an oppertunity to be GM different story. Rick Speilman has messed up too many times last draft was the last straw. Yes ponder is good but we could of had Nick fairley or Prince amukamara, either of those guys would of helped out right away. Yes fairley hasnt produced much this year mostly becasue he got hurt but with the vikings he would of been used a lot more often instead of Remy and grown up with K. WIlliams to show him how its done no better mentor. Prince AMukamara INT his first ever play in the NFL. and just watching him play he would be our #1 corner right now with Antione hurt. Two great players we missed out on because Rick Speilmen Reached reached reached for ponder when his whole philosophy has been taking THE BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE but no we take ponder who is good and will be no doubt. but we could have Amukamara or Fairley and Andy Dalton who is 100% the best QB from this class he turned the bengals who were worse then us, much worse and now they are a playoff team. Now we must do something crazy here it is. Trade AP yes AP to the … Colts get Peyton Manning (similar contracts) and their 2nd and 3rd this year which is #33 55# pick and their 1st next year. THis way they get luck with their first we have the 2nd or 3rd pick get Trent Richardson. Now we have Manning and Richardson with Ponder learning from the best and the colts have Luck and Peterson. But the true beauty of the trade is that we would have 3 picks in the first 35. thats three players that could impact the team right away. the two other picks would have to be O LIne and then thrid round try and get some DB’s and a WR

  4. By curtis fregien on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Dear, vikings you can get andwer luck ok and build around the QB go get 12 Luck, Andrew, 84 Branch, Deion, 25 Grant, Ryan, Jennings, Greg, 24 Barber, Marion RB, 22 Forte, Matt RB 6-2 218 25 4 Tulane, 27 Rice, Ray RB, 5 Flacco, Joe QB, 81 Keller, Dustin TE, go get them they are good players ok you can call me in the drft ok i can hlep you out i know all the players ok here is my cell phone number ok here is my number 1701 709 0230

  5. By vikings4life on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Plus bringing Manning here would sell out every home game in days

  6. By Parody on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    You are really stretching on that one vikings4life. Manning may be getting older, but he is still one of the best QBs in the NFL. QBs are more valuable than Running Backs, so the Colts would be crazy to offer anything more than Manning in a direct exchange for AP.

    Regardless, Manning wouldn’t add enough to our team to justify the trade. He’d be another old QB added to the team blocking our ability to develop a franchise QB.

    If you’re going to trade AP, the best scenario you’re likely to get from the Colts is their 2nd-round pick this year and the 1st next year. History shows that a team would be ill advised to offer much more than that for one RB.

  7. By Kris C. on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    I also agree the Vikings need to hire a GM.Green or Billick are both good choices.
    I was thinking that early in the season when McNabb was QB that the Vikes scored a bunch of points in the first half of games. We had double digit leads in most of them. I know this will never happen but, why not play McNabb in the first half, and then Ponder in the second. Ponder has been putting points on the board in the 2nd half, but the Vikes have given up too many points in the 1st.McNabb seemed to tire out in the 2nd half. All other position players have a back-up. Why not platoon QB’s. I know it’s crazy, but nothing else is working.I also know that this is not the only piece to the puzzle. Just a thought. I don’t claim to be a football genius. I know that Ponder is a rookie and still learning. I think he will be a good QB. I’m just a die hard Vikes fan who wants to see them be competitive.

  8. By sandiamond on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Tier one CB prospects for next year’s draft:

    M. Claiborne LSU
    D. Kirkpatrick ALA
    A. Dennard NB
    S. Gilmore SC
    J. Jenkins NALA
    C. Minnifield VA
    J. Hosley VT

    Keep in mind that all of these could be nearing GONE by the time the vikes pick in RD2 34-36

  9. By sandiamond on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Tier two CB prospects for next year’s draft

    C. Harris Oregon (off-field issues)
    B. Boykin GA
    C. Judie Texas A&M
    K. Tandy West Virgina
    T. Wade Arz
    C. Hayward Vandy
    S. Prater Iowa
    T. Johnson Montana

    huge drop-off in talent here with trumaine johnson being the only cb 6′ or over

  10. By CA_Viking_fan on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    The more I think of it, the more I tend to see the logic and need: count me in with those here who say we need a great football mind GM.

    I don’t know much about Spielman, but yes he sure has done a lot of “questionable” things.

    I’m not a professional level football guy, but I know the fundamentals, and those are vital at any level. How can a pro level manager/coach not seriously address the O-line and secondary? Just watch the film of past games. It’s painful and makes me wonder how some of the guys managed to make it to the pro level and be on the field on Sundays. Oh, and what’s the deal with the OC? The opponents know what our exact play will be 99% of the time. Even I can say what the next play will be. That’s not good. Our opponents laugh at our game plans.

  11. By Justin F on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    WE HAVE TO LOSE THE LAST 5 GAMES TO GET THE #2 PICK IN THE DRAFT. If we win more than 1 game between now and January 1st, the Vikings are even more dumber than what I thought.

  12. By vikings4life on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Well Parody i Agree with you most the time they wouldnt offer that but they are going to pick luck no matter what and that means manning will not be there next year.
    I think because they have pressure to move him we could get a little extra out of them to them AP and LUCk in 1 year is good enough to turn the franchise around. I mainly think this would be best because Ponder is not ready, they knew that going into the season and is why they got McNabb and it would be best for ponder to learn behind Manning for 2-3 years while we build as well and we could do waht Green Bay did which was hand Rodgers the best team they have had in 20 years

  13. By Parody on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Manning just signed a 5-year, $90M contract with the Colts before this season. That means they have him locked in through 2015, and his skills aren’t likely to regress in that timeframe. So the Colts have all the power right now.

    They could trust that they’ll find their next QB later in the draft, or in a future draft. If that’s the case, then they can trade away the #1 pick for a large load of some other team’s drafts.

    If they decide they want Luck, then THEY can take a page out of the Packer handbook and have him learn under Manning for 3-years. Then, in his final year, the Colts can trade Manning to some desperate team for a first round pick and then they have a ton of draft potential AND a franchise QB who is ready to run the team.

    AP is much more valuable to us as a RB than as a trade prospect. Nobody is going to give us what he is worth in trades.

  14. By Twoodsnvikes on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    The colts don’t have a franchise QB for the next 15 years, they have one for, at most probably, 5. With that in mind, they won’t pass up the opportunity to get, what most people are already declaring, the next john elway or better, highest rated QB in over 20 years. They will easily be able to trade manning for a bunch of picks to a team looking for a vet with 5 years left, especially with the name Manning.

  15. By Troutdaddy on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Is Frazier really going to get it done next year for us? Seriously, I want to know how people feel about Frazier. I am trying so hard to like him and give him the benefit here, but the lack of emotion he shows on the sidelines and the tentative play calling tells me otherwise. At 2 and 9 he should be a little more angry, passionate and especially more driven to fire up his players and I do not see any of that. What am I missing here?

  16. By DFish on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Bye #5… Tnx for trying.

  17. By Parody on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Twoods – I completely agree. The only problem with that is that Manning has a lot of fan support. But as we saw with Green Bay, fan support can quickly change when they see the new franchise QB in action. The Colts will be able to return to the playoffs for many years after dumping Manning to some desperate team and picking up some well planned draftees from it.

  18. By Parody on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Troutdaddy – It’s Frazier’s ability to hide his emotion that is making it difficult to decipher how much of a turnaround he can get next year.

    Is his coaching ability really that poor, or is he just playing possum now in favor of better draft picks, since it is impossible to make anything good happen this season? If he just comes straight out and tells the media that he’s trying to lose, the NFL would tear him to pieces. So right now, I want to believe that he’s just buying his time and preparing to get this team back on the right side of success next year. At this point in the season, that’s the way I would be doing it, and I’d like to believe that Leslie has the intelligence to do the same.

  19. By Spencer on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply


  20. By VikesfanNO on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Our focus should be on having a solid team and not winning these last 5 games becausee in our case winning is irrelevant we probably won’t have the first pick in the draft but if we do we can trade down and get more picks we don’t need Andrew Luck I mean come on we are not a good team now and the coulda, woulds, shoulda, songs need to end we dissect those close games and stuff for what? we still come out on the losing end so let’s focus on building a solid team and become relevant again. Every game we lost let’s face it we lost and we keep hearing this “we gotta fix our mistakes” garbage and nothing changes the same things happen we are what our record says we are a 2-9 team regardless of how many points we lost by we still lost…face it and let’s fix it…SKOL Vikings!!

  21. By Regfan on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    The Entertainment Factor alone is worth it to watch the last few games,but I hope they do sit AP because of his injuries

  22. By Kris C. on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    Oh well, so much for that idea! GO VIKES!

  23. By Puckertrucker on Dec 1, 2011 | Reply

    To The Vikes and Fans:

    It took only 11 weeks to get rid of a bad QB and it only took 5 weeks to ruin the Vikes season, I don’t know how you can praise Frazier for getting rid of McScabb when he should never have traded for him in the first place. He was a has been when Philly let him go. We should have used Joe Webb from the start he has some very good skills at QB at least He could have won 2 or 3 games before they put Ponder in, I mean C. Ponder is a good QB for as long as he has been playing and he will improve he just needs more playing time Ponder didn’t have the Luxury of sitting behind Farve the way A. Rogers of the cheese squeeze team had, what a 3 or 4 year learning curve before he started for the packers, No-wonder he was good when he started all he did was sit on his butt and learn defenses and his team didn’t have to dig themselves out of a hole like the Vikes had to do. Thanks to Fraziers bad decission to get McScabb and than let him play for 5 1/2 weeks before they put Ponder in a very tough game to begin his career no wonder He’s a little lost out there he doesn’t have all the Luxuries Rogers had.

    The one and only PuckerTrucker!!!!!!!!

  24. By Rocksalt on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    It appears that Frazier is in over his head.

  25. By purplegoldman on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    Fraizer is here til 2013 like it or not. The question is can he learn to correct the misstakes quickly. Like firing OC or DC for poor game planning and poor play scripting or calling. Can he bench and send players packing that dont grasp the concept of there assignment or just plain lack the talent to play at the pro level. Can he tell Spielman that his draft choices suck and convey that to the Wilfs. Can he ask that Studwell be replaced as draft agent. If he cant do these things, then he will not make it as Head Coach here or anywhere.

  26. By purplegoldman on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    L Fraizer had better learn pronto that he is the Boss of a Billion dollar enterprise. You dont put up with managers and employees that cost your company 100s of Millions of dollars by there poor performance and enept dissision making choices. The Wilfs might do well to inform Fraizer of these facts before they wind up with massive losses of revenue and end up rebuilding a failed franchise over the next 2 decades.

  27. By purplegoldman on Dec 2, 2011 | Reply

    Oh. and one more thing, STOP drafting undersized Players , because they are always on IR. Size and Durabillity Spielman, Get it Knuckle Head. Great example Sidney Rice The TWIGG.

  28. By David Rainey on Dec 3, 2011 | Reply

    The problem with the Vikings is the head coach. He is a nice guy, but doesn’t have a strategic clue how to win. At least the last guy to hold that posittion always new what plays did or did not make a difference and could always say what needed to be done. I am afraid that Fraizer does not have a clue.

  29. By sam crow on Dec 4, 2011 | Reply

    i have news for all viking fans,vikings will never go anywhere with this coaching staff (worst in league).not just leslie,i’m talking about the entire staff on both sides of the ball! sad but true,so i wouldn’t get my hopes up on winning season in the near future until owners gets a real staff that actually knows what a football is!!!!!

  30. By curtis fregien on Dec 12, 2011 | Reply

    get matt forta

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