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Offensive Line, Defense Step Up In 2nd Half vs. Panthers

Posted by Mike Wobschall on October 31, 2011 – 9:01 am

Adrian Peterson and Christian Ponder deserve every ounce of credit coming their way in the aftermath of Sunday’s 24-21 victory over the Carolina Panthers. But if you have any more credit to pass around, throw some to the Vikings offensive line and the defensive effort because both were very good in the 2nd half at Carolina.

We’ll start with the offensive line, a group that has received more than its fair share of criticism lately and also a group dealing with injuries. C John Sullivan returned to action on Sunday from a concussion suffered 2 weeks ago and RG Anthony Herrera wasn’t able to go this week because of a knee injury. Fortunately for the Vikings, veteran lineman Joe Berger stepped into both roles over the past 2 weeks and the offensive line has improved along the way.

In the 2nd half on Sunday, the Vikings put together a pair of methodical drives where the offensive line dominated the line of scrimmage. The first drive came in the 3rd quarter and culminated in a 9-yard Peterson TD run. The drive went 85 yards in 12 plays and took 5:41 off the clock. The second long drive came in the 4th quarter and culminated in the game-winning FG. The drive went 72 yards in 13 plays and took 7:10 off the clock.

In those two drives, the offensive line paved the way for a total of 14 carries between Peterson and Gerhart for 85 yards (6.1 yards per carry) and 1 TD. Offensive Coordinator Bill Musgrave did a great job of mixing in Gerhart occasionally to give Peterson a rest, and the offensive line consistently dominated the line of scrimmage to open up creases for the Vikings RBs. On the 3rd-quarter drive, here is a list of gains on the ground: 4, 9, 9, 11, 15, 1, 3, 9 (TD).

The Vikings had a 7-minute advantage in time of possession in the 2nd half, including an 11:01 to 3:59 advantage in the 4th quarter.

Defensively, the secondary will be criticized for giving up 7 receptions and 100 yards to Steve Smith and for giving up a 1st down on a 4th and 15 play late in the game. That’s all fair game, but ultimately the defense did a good enough job to contribute to this victory, and their effort in the 2nd half was much improved.

In the 2nd half, the Vikings allowed fewer 1st downs, total yards and rushing yards, and they forced Carolina into three 3-and-out drives that led to 10 Vikings points and, ultimately, the game-winning drive that was capped by a 31-yard Ryan Longwell FG.

Again, there are certainly areas that need improvement on this Vikings team, and the offensive line and defense are not absolved from that fact. But there’s no question that the 2nd half performances registered by the offensive line and the defense were major keys in the Vikings ability to scratch and claw their way to a win on the road against the Panthers.


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172 Responses to “Offensive Line, Defense Step Up In 2nd Half vs. Panthers”

  1. By deer tracks on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Both the Offensive, Defensive line was great?? Mike W… Did you watch the same game I did?…

  2. By deer tracks on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Mike, how many times did Ponder have to hurry up his play action, because that Swiss Cheeze O Line allowed the Panthers to almost distroy him?

  3. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    And other than Jared Allen what did anyone do on our D line?

  4. By Bacon on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    All I learned from this game is that Ponder is way better then McNabb on 3rd downs..

  5. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Ponder is way better than Mcjoke period

  6. By LV on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Ponder is the best in the NFL, he won two games in a row in my book. The Vikings will be unstoppable from now on.

  7. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    @LV: Once we get a secondary maybe

  8. By 61vikings on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Who is this Joe Berger guy and where did he come from? As for the offensive line, they are good run blockers but not so good on pass plays!! Still needs lots of work!! J. Sullivan needs to sit on the bench and let Joe Berger get some more reps!! Our DB’s are the worst in the NFL!! Johnson, A. Allen and Abdullah have no business being on the field!! When the Panthers had a 4th and 14 from there own 35 yard line, Cam Newton found his receiver wide open for a 44 yard gain!! Never should have happened but with the likes of T. Johnson back there running around looking lost, it did!!

  9. By CA_Viking_fan on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Sorry Mike W, when I saw the Title of this article, I had to look at the calender to be sure it wasn’t April Fools day. I respectfully say that this should be re-titled to say Defense and Oline *need* to step up in 2nd half. Other than this, I really enjoy your blog and game day live chats.

  10. By Troutdaddy on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Our DB’s were one of the reasons it cost us the game last week, and they just about cost us this week. Thank heavens for the kicker choking. Also, What is up with Longwell??? 3 Field goals missed now??? You have always been my fantasy FB kicker and you have lived up to your last name so well…Focus seems to not as there. I am sure he will finish strong, but dude, you are killing me!

  11. By Titus on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Where are all the Panther fans that were jawing Saturday night?

  12. By JT on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Congrats to the team for the win.

    I agree the OL & DL played good.

    What was going on with the giving up a 4th and 15?
    Who made the call on field for the bad coverage?
    Whoever made the call for the linebackers and db’s blew it.
    Sure looked like a knucklehead play.

    Anyway, happy for the team.

  13. By LV on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Ponder is better than Rodgers. Superbowl next year.

  14. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    I was disappointed to not see Burton targeted even once this game, hard to see what he can do if you don’t throw it to him. Same with Rudolph I don’t know why he isn’t targeted at least ten times a game

  15. By aaron rodgers on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Why do the vikings suck so much at life?

  16. By DRS on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/18/league-official-points-out-that-vikings-could-move/

    Last week, Vikings V.P. of business affairs and stadium development Lester Bagley told PFT Live that “more than one community” has contacted the team regarding a possible move. Today, NFL executive V.P. Eric Grubman made it clear that, if no stadium is built in Minnesota, the Vikings could indeed leave.

  17. By DelawareDan on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Well, the D did give up fewer points in the second half than any other game this year. only 7 pts yesterday.

    But you typed your story with a straight face?

    A fourth and 14 for 44 yards to allow the Panthers a chance to win it, qualifies for a “stepped up” defense?

    Would have rather seen the story that says McNabb is finished and Ponder is the Vikings QB.

  18. By DRS on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    8 games to go, I hope and pray that Minnesota tax payers can see the benefits of the new stadium and call their legislators to tell them to get a new stadium.

  19. By DRS on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    http://www.stateline.org/live/details/story?contentId=608455

    TAX & BUDGET BEAT

    By Thanksgiving, Minnesota might commit hundreds of millions of public dollars to a new stadium for the National Football League’s Minnesota Vikings, but only if it can overcome a host of political and budgetary obstacles. The question the legislature will have to answer is how far a state should go to subsidize a cherished professional sports team during difficult economic and fiscal times.

  20. By DRS on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    If this morning’s Minnesota Poll is accurate, roughly 70 percent of Minnesotans are opposed to their tax dollars being used to help Zygi Wilf pay for a new Vikings stadium.

    Would the result have been different if Brad Childress and Brett Favre hadn’t guided the team into a ditch last year? We ask, because the poll also showed majority support for public money having been spent on Target Field, where the Twins did not suck in 2010.

    The poll results, published by the Star Tribune this morning, were culled from a telephone survey last week, before Minneapolis Mayor R.T. Rybak announced a proposal to help finance a massive retrofitting of the Metrodome.

    The survey found that most Minnesotans think it’s important to keep the team in the state, and most said they saw nothing wrong with the Vikings continuing to play in the soon-to-be repaired Metrodome — something the team’s owners say they refuse to do after this season.

  21. By Peter G. on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    This sounds strange, but hopefully the Vikings are moving to an offense where none of the receivers or TEs get targeted “enough” times – it would mean Ponder is spreading the ball around, finding the open man on each play instead of just relying on one or two targets, and keeping defenses confused.

  22. By Mike B. on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Come on Mike W. To be fair the OL and Def secondary played well enough to get us a win, but that’s about it. They couldn’t open any holes in the first half of the game and Ponder was not getting the protection to pass. Def secondary was giving up all kinds of stuff in the middle. Although I did see an improvement in tackling. I wouldn’t rain very much praise on the OL and Def just that they were effective enough to win the game. 2 turnovers accounted for 14 points was due to the Allen and EJ anyway. I will hold praise for now and don’t think it deserves enough to even mention in an entire blog.

  23. By garrett1212 on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Our secondary is horrible, horrible, horrible. Nice angle Allen took on Cam Newton’s run. Maybe the worst angle a defender has ever taken. Can’t cover or tackle. We were lucky to come away with a win. Nice to see the offensive production picking up with Ponder at the helm. Can’t ask for two better starts for a rookie qb. I like this draft pick the more I see him play. We will be tough for any team to play from here on out. We need to finish at least 9-7. I got money riding on this.

  24. By DRS on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Though my last posting is old news I would dare say that most Minnesota Tax payers would still vote to not fund the new stadium today, I think the Minnesota Vikings should blitz the airwaves to get their message out there, show Joe/Jane Q public how good it will be for the Vikings to get their new stadium, the jobs, the tax revenues the state stands to gain, then they will let the legislators vote for it, bingo there will be a new stadium in MN.

  25. By DRS on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    I agree that our D needs are great; hopefully we can get someone on the waiver line that can help us. There has to be someone out there who can help us now. Please, MN Vikings find some players that can play D-fence now; you have an outside chance to have a winning season, improving your image.

  26. By DRS on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    My poll Question is, would you pay more taxes to keep the Vikings in Minnesota?

    Yes or No?

    Have A Great Day.

  27. By Shawn on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    DRS … that is the states leaders jobs, but the fact is MN being a red state has leaders that have led them to believe NO NEW TAXES FOR ANYTHING.

    State leaders should want the stadium because it brings revenue to their state. Average voters shouldnt and dont think about the states finances. So Republican leaders should be telling their followers why its good to keep the Vikings.

    The Vikings owners have made it obvious to EVERYONE WITH AN IQ OVER … 5 . Sadly the common republican IQ is 4. So this is what you get ….

    No team helping make a wish kids

    no team building play grounds

    NO TEAM !!!!

    Just the way Republicans set it up. If you plant a seed for corn you get corn. If you plant a seed for NO NEW TAXES …. well it cant be said any simplar

  28. By deer tracks on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    One thing I DON’T want to see anymore is McJoke standing next to Ponder or Joe Webb on the sideline looking at a spread sheet of plays!!!

    Speaking of Jor Webb, Gow about putting hi9m in during the 4th Quarter, Get a little play time in so he can be ready in case the Swiss Cheeze O line lets Ponder be carried off the field…

    This brings up another ?.. If Ponder is unable to play, will Fraziewr put McJoke back in? If he does, that means only one thiong.. Frazier has thrown Webb to the dogs..

  29. By vlad19 on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Things were easy to see from my perspective…. Asher Allen proved beyond any shadow of doubt he is a highschool All American at best. On Smith’s TD, we have middle blitz and the knucklehead take outside technique on man in isolation…. never mind his half-hearted and failed pursuit of anyone carrying the ball. He tackles out of necessity only, and not well. He is horrible.
    Abdullah made a couple plays at the end, otherwise the guy has played two of the worst games I have seen in all my years of watching or playing football. When Olsen ran by him uncontested, I knew he is due to go.
    Our LBs are overpaid and overhyped. Greenway was paid money to impact guy – he did exactly what this game? Against Panthers no less…
    It is dire – we will not win much with this group on D… and I didn’t even mention Ty Johnson, Sanford, Ced Griffin…. yikes guys. Trouble holding guys down with players like this. Why can’t our Org see this?

  30. By deer tracks on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    I also want to see myself spellcheck before posting….

  31. By Mt_Viking on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    I was not surprised to see Cam frustrated late in the game. I said on an earlier blog that Cam was a athletic freak of nature and Ponder is a great athlete with a very high IQ! I also said that athletic ability will only get you so far but intelligence will get you a long and storied NFL career! I truly believe that Cam’s career will be short and fun to watch. The Vikings proved that teams will figure Cam out and he will get lots of NFL style hits. How long can he take it? Ponder, I believe, will have a long, productive, winning, career. I have a gut feeling that he will win Superbowl (s)!! When its all said and done, it will be Ponder in the HOF not Cam!!!

  32. By vlad19 on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    On offense, Berger was average on whole, but in moments very bad. Loadholt was slow and lethargic as usual. Charlie “Brown” Johnson was as usual the worst on this very inadequate line. Sully played a decent game – glad to see.

    Glad they finally came to their senses re: Bernard “Spoons” Berrian…. two weeks in row he is inactive – did they release him yet? Mike Wobs likes him…. for what I will never know. You can only say “he had a good year back when…” so long. But another first rate receiver moves and Vikes stand pat! We will lose more because of this indecision on Org’s part. We need pass catchers as badly as we need d-backs!

  33. By Titus on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    I agree with MT Viking– I see Ponder as the Tom Brady of the next generation. Ponder will be one of the best ever if he stays healthy and he is provided a supporting cast– and not just on paper (hint, hint, Mike W.).

  34. By CA Norwegian on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    I agree there was some stepping up Wobbs. They stopped Cam from being a human highlight reel for a while there. The difference was obvious in contrast to the losses. Was the contention of a number between McNabb and the punter more than coincidence? Ponder is keeping the punter on the bench in the second half. The line is a wee bit better, but not having so many sacks is helping. Ponder is putting the ball in the right places, and making the right decisions, mostly. The DLine run game misses Pat Williams.

  35. By radzinwisconsin on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Berger is a nasty player which that o line needs! I noticed Peterson caused broken plays did anyone else? Agree with Greenway not looking back on coverages also E.J. has that injury that has slowed him down! Glad to see Frazier step up and tell Harvin get back in there and quit showing that your hurt and used him as a decoy on big third downs! Newton has a bird dog too him as i noticed he gives it away when hes gonna bolt right away!

  36. By Frederick Jones on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    @Deer Tracks,

    You are correct about the Vikings O Line. We have to actually modify the offense BECAUSE the Line cannot hold their blocks long enough for a long pass.

    Ponder may be as good as some say, but we will never know what he can do when it has to be, ONE, TWO, THREE, release or run on almost every play.

    Why do you think the Vikings actually went to a FULL HOUSE BACKFIELD?

  37. By CA Norwegian on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Webb said he was an emergency DB in the past. What are the chances he could get practice and get reps in that needed area? I think a man of his speed and leaping ability should be out there contesting Megatron for floaters..

  38. By Frederick Jones on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    This is the NFL:

    The Saints came in at 5-2 playing the 0-6 Rams. Who knew that the
    Rams would win 31-21 with a QB who hadn’t played in a game in 3 years?
    A.J. Feeley was 20 of 37 for 175 yards and a touchdown. Not exactly HOF numbers but “according to the logic of some bloggers he outplayed the great
    Drew Brees.”

    THE VIKINGS COULD FINISH UP 6-2 IN THE SECOND HALF OF THEIR SCHEDULE TO END THE SEASON WITH AN 8-8 RECORD. NO BIG DEAL IT’S BEEN DONE BEFORE BY MANY TEAMS INCLUDING THE VIKINGS IN ONE OF GRANT’S LAST SEASONS.

  39. By Frederick Jones on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    CA NORWEGIAN,

    Yes, Webb should be a DB, if we are not going to have him be the QB of the future.

  40. By CA Norwegian on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Greenway was the one who foiled Fitz’s TD and he wasn’t looking back then. Just barely got his hand in there. We could have lost that one too, if not for Chad.

  41. By Frederick Jones on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Even if the Vikings go 6-2 in the second half of their season (WHICH HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE BY SEVERAL TEAMS), we still have to be very concerned about the ADMINISTRATION of the team.

    Drafting, trading, and free agency decisions have been foolish in recent years.

    DENNY GREEN FOR GENERAL MANAGER !

  42. By CA Norwegian on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Keys to the game! Play the QB you can win with. I think we need to intentionally loose our way up to higher picks in the draft now. OL and DB’s. A nasty LB? a Pat WIlliams style run stuffer? A Tall receiver? It is all good.

  43. By CA Norwegian on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Hoiw many 2nd half first downs in all the collapses? Less than vs Panthers, right? Did we convert any 3rd and 15′s in any of those games, like Ponder did yesterday?

  44. By Frederick Jones on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    STRONG AREAS ON THE VIKINGS:

    defensive line
    running backs
    quarterbacks
    punter
    tight end

    MEDOCRE AREAS ON THE VIKINGS

    kicker (look for replacing Longwell unless he improves)
    linebacker
    wide receiver

    WEAK AREAS ON THE VIKINGS

    offensive line
    defensive backs

    SO ARE WE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THE 4TH ROUND TO SELECT A DEFENSIVE BACK AGAIN??? ARE WE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THE 6TH ROUND TO SELECT AN OFFENSIVE LINEMAN???

    DENNY GREEN FOR GENERAL MANAGER ! ! !

  45. By Frederick Jones on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    In addition we used almost zero dollars to improve the defensive secondary and the offensive line. Why???

    Viking fans…they will do it again ! ! ! :( :( :( :( :(

    All you have to do is listen to Mike Wobschall. Nothing is changing.

  46. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Should have some cap space to do something in free agency and hopefully we can draft a bit better this year, needs to be a draft of nothing but DBs and OL and maybe a WR

  47. By Tfunk3 on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    wow, what a difference a couple of weeks make…i’m not ashamed to wear purple any more…

    CHRIS COOK has got to go…the kid has some anger issues he needs to deal with…guy doesn’t deserve a second chance in the nfl…what an idiot, what a waste of a pick, not the viking brass fault on that one…millions of dollars to play football and you pis* it all away…idiot…havent had such a terrible pick since dimitirius underwood.

  48. By rez507 on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    #7 PONDER GREAT JOB CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW GREAT OF A LEADER UR GONNA BE .KEEP IT UP WAY TO SLING THE BALL .NO TURNOVERS GREAT POISE AND DECISION MAKING. WULD LIKE TO SEE YOU WORK ON PLAY ACTION FAKE AND U AND#28 A.P. ARE GREAT CCOMBINATION AND THE PURPLES WAY TO SUPERBOWL IN NEAR FUTURE KEEP UP GOOD WORK GET BETTER WITH EVERYGAME YOU WILL SUCCEED US FANS HAVE FAITH IN THAT!!!

  49. By Im a Fan Not A Critic on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Mike, thank you for the reporting you do week in and week out. It is nice to have an open minded person who can write about both the things that need to be worked on as well as highlight all of the good things that are happening with the team. People are way too focused on the negative and refuse to see any positive. I have been a fan my whole life and I am very proud of it, however reading some of these comments on here frustrate me and I think a lot of the fans should be ashamed of themselves. Their comments on here are disrespectful and embarrassing. These players, coaches, writers(Mike W. :)), etc. are all professionals and also humans. Everyone makes mistakes, that’s what makes this game enjoyable to watch! Negative comments do not do anything to help the team, they need our support not our criticism! Again, these people are professionals of their trade, they understand what they need to work on better than any of us do. So to all of the fans posting negative comments about their team, and this goes for all franchises, if you were really as smart as you think you are, you would be working for the team…you wouldn’t be a fan!

    So, give the team the support it needs regardless of what direction you feel it needs to go in, they are the professionals! And please, before commenting on something Mike writes on here, think about yourself and if you have ever made a mistake at work(you all have including myself) if you would want that posted and criticized by thousands of people and they don’t even mention any of the good things that you have done!

    Thanks again Mike for the blog and all of the updates, it is a pleasure to read. I also would like to appologize for all of the fans who criticize your writing. I agree with everything you wrote in the blogs, they did step it up which most definately helped contribute to the win yesterday.

    To the players and coaches; keep up the good work! All of that hard work is definately showing each Sunday, and I’m proud of what you are doing.

  50. By Sir Greasy Panda on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    I didnt think we would shut down the Panthers, not with the way our defense has played recently, but despite how bad our defense has played we actually did better than most teams have against Cam and the Panthers.

    THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FROM THIS LAST GAME WAS THAT WE FOUND A WAY TO WIN!!!

    Different guys made contributions and different from past games we put together a game winning drive!!! Something we did not do with McNabb. The guys on the team are playing harder for Ponder, it so obvious to see.

    In regards to our weaknesses, they are what they are. Mid way through the season we are not going to find a DB or an OL on the streets that will play better than what we got. Hopefully with Frazier at the helm we can continue to build through the draft for the long term.

    Its just a matter of finishing this season strong, even if we dont make the playoffs, our success this season will transfer over to next season. Hopefully Ponder is the truth now we just have to build around him! Imagine AP and Ponder with a solid OL!

  51. By Viking33 on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Anyone that criticizes for what Steve Smith does against their team, doesn’t know who Steve Smith is. Holding him down is like holding down AP. Our D-Line did pretty well yesterday – you could see they were trying to be cognoscente of keeping Cam stationary while still trying to apply pressure. Our O-Line stilll needs help – especially at the Tackle positions. McKinnie, who should have been cut two years ago, did put us in a pickle (that pickle is Johnson) Loadholt should buddy up with Jared and do some MMA over the offseason – the go to move of flopping on your butt just doesn’t work consistently. I love the play of Ponder on 3rd down – it is awesome – I love seeing Peterson run like a Beast – all in all I feel like the Vikes are on the Up Swing.

  52. By vikingbob136 on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    It actually was a pleasure watching the game yesterday. The Vikings were
    competitive.I thought it was 2009 all over again.Those were the days

  53. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Anyone else think “im a fan” is Mike wobz under a diff name?

  54. By Viking33 on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    @DRS – I would vote for a tax increase to keep the Vikes in Minnesota. I don’t live there anymore, so I think I would also be called a hypocrite to say that they cannot leave the state when I did. That being said, I don’t think that I meant as much to the State of Minnesota as the Vikings do. If it helps, I would send money to support the team staying in Minnesota – maybe we could start a “Pass the Helmet” Fundraiser to keep the Vikes where the should be. I would hate for the team to leave, like the Stars did so recently. For the Vikings to move, with the great fanbase they have in Minnesota and tradition they have built, would be a huge debacle! The Vikings are synonymous with the State of Minnesota – and should remain there. If you want to rebuild the State economy – you may want to start by creating jobs and creating continuous future revenue for the State. This was something that was done pretty well on a much larger scale by a pretty smart guy about 60-70 years ago – Franklin D Roosevelt. FDR for the Vikes!!

  55. By Viking33 on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    @Twoodsnvikes – Thought the same thing.

  56. By Matthias on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    @ Im a Fan Not A Critic

    I totally agree with you.

    To all the people asking for Frazier’s head: Are you serious? It still is his first year as a headcoach. Give him some time and he will be fine.

    At the moment we have some high-caliber players such as AD, Harvin and J. Allen, but the rest of the team is so la la… Please, take this chance to finally rebuild. AD deserves a ring, but I don’t see the Vikings winning the Bowl during the next two years. I could be wrong and I think we might have the chance to grab a wildcard spot, but don’t expect Ponder to win it all.

  57. By deer tracks on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Twoosnvikes, You sure hit that one right on! Either that, or just another butt kisser…

  58. By deer tracks on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Here is another one…must be related to Mike…Matthias, No one is calling for Fraziers’ head! All we are doing is trying to wake him up!!

  59. By Matthias on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    @ deer tracks

    I agree with you on that. Still I can’t stand those bloggers coming to this side to post “Fire Frazier” all the time and nothing else…

  60. By aaron rodgers on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    why do the vikings suck so much at life?

    Why do fools here even care?

    Who sucks worse at life, the stinky team or the even smellier fans?

  61. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Are you 13?

  62. By rye on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Ponder is the real deal!

    Vikings will be back on top next year. They will easilly be able to address the OL and defensive backs through the draft and free agency.

    It is huge that the vikes have finally found a QB that will be around for years to come.

  63. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    I think Mike Wobschall is the next Tolstoy. I will be shocked if he does not win the Pulitzer Prize this year………D@mn, forgot to change my name.

  64. By Cesar on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    DID I SEE THIS SAY THAT THE DEFENSE STEPPED UP??? IF WE REALLY THINK THAT THAN WE ARE LOST!!! WE ALMOST LOST BECAUSE OUR SECONDARY AND OUR D LINE LET NEWTON CONVERT ON 4TH&14. IM JUST SAYING THE BALL BOUNCED OUR WAY BUT WE COULDVE CLOSED IT ALOT SOONER. THE BALL ISNT ALWAYS GONNA BOUNCE OUR WAY
    I LOVE PONDER THO

  65. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    He is one of the world’s great fiction writers.

  66. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Free agents to pick up:
    Aaron Ross (CB)
    Michael Griffin (S)
    Dwayne Bowe (WR)

    So then we pick up:
    1st round: OT
    2nd Round: CB
    3rd Round: OG
    4th Round: S
    5th Round: CB
    6th Round: CB
    7th Round: S

  67. By Shawn on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Mike Wobs headline says all you need to know about the Vikings being losers. We beat the Panthers and the OL and defense looked like sh!t to everyone but trained losers …

    Mike Wobs … watch a Jets game or a Ravens or a Steelers game and learn what a defense stepping up looks like !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    IT STARTS WITH EVERYONE SPEAKING FACTS … STOP THE FANTASY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  68. By Mt_Viking on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Thanks Titus, Brady is exactly who I was thinking about! I believe the powers that be see what they have and will do what needs to be done over the next 2 yrs. They will franchise Ponder and get some protection for him. I think the o-line will be addressed next year along with a deep threat target for Ponder. I would like everyone on here to realize “it is what it is ” this year! We all won what we wanted,BB gone, McCan’t benched, opening the playbook, Ponder starting, using the new DB guys, ect. Titus, you can add other changes if I missed any. We do have a roster spot open, the brass will fill it with the best player that will help us win! So gentlemen, lets all enjoy the second half of the season…there should be some exciting and dramatic games in store for us fans!

  69. By Shawn on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Mike Wobs stop spreading LIES ….

    Ravens and Steelers give up less TOTAL YARDS / GAME … then our defense gives up pa-ssing !!!!!!!!!!!

    OUR DEFENSE NEARLY LOST VS THE PANTHERS … JUST LIKE THEY HAVE LOST 5 GAMES THIS SEASON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  70. By Shawn on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    TOTAL YARDS PER GAME …

    RAVENS … 263

    STEELERS … 270

    VIKINGS … 368

    VIKING PA-SS DEFENSE …. 273

  71. By Shawn on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Mike Wobs do you get bonuses to sell your propoganda ?????????????????

  72. By Shawn on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    CUT ASHER ALLEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    CUT TYRELL JOHNSON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    IT CANT GET WORSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    OUR DEFENSE SUXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

  73. By Shawn on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    It just goes to show when things are bad long enough you get used to it and forget what good is or was ….

    MIKE WOBSCHALLL …. YOUR WORST POST EVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  74. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    And griffin and abdullah

  75. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    “Worst post ever”?……Now that’s saying something !! I would say it’s tied for worst. To determine a tie-breaker, take all his posts, divide by 87.63, then multiply by dog years, subtract by a factor of .06, then just say Fuc& it, they’re all garbage.

  76. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Then multiply by unicorns, divide by rainbows, and subtract lollipops and that is your answer

  77. By Shawn on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    O yeah what do the Ravens and Steelers defense have in common ???

    THE BEST 2 SAFETIES IN THE NFL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  78. By Titus on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    I didn’t know that Mike Wobs wrote War and Peace.

  79. By Shawn on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    I watched the game and was just numb to how bad our defense is … Jared Allen is the only playmaker.

  80. By PAUL M. on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    C’MON WOBSCHALL!!

    Duh . . . . YEAH! I HOPE OUR O-LINE WAS ABLE TO DOMINATE THE 29th RANKED RUSHING DEFENSE IN THE ENTIRE NFL!!!

  81. By PAUL M. on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    LET’S SEE . . . THAT MEANS THERE ARE ONLY 3 WORSE DEFENSES THAN CAROLINA’S AGAINST THE RUSH.

  82. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Didn’t even dominate them, this should have been a guaranteed 100 yard rush game for AP

  83. By PAUL M. on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    KYLE RUDOLF, “HALL OF FAMER”.

    GIVE THE KID THE BALL!

  84. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Asher Allen just made Monday night’s “c’mon man”, anyone surprised?

  85. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    I bet Wobschall is.

  86. By Shawn on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Asher Allen SUXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

    His play is so XRated … they should blur out 10 yards in every direction of him …. throw in Tyrell and its amazing the FCC hasnt stepped in

  87. By Mt_Viking on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Winfield will be back for the next game. he can be the leader of the DBs and raise the rookie’s level of play! Anyway, the 2nd half of the season IS going to be better for the team and us fans. Yes, the probability of the playoffs is low. But, with the teams we play, we can cause some real havoc in the playoff picture. I for one, will be waiting with renewed enthusiasm for the next 8 games! My Viking fanaticism started when I was 5 yrs old; my older brother was traded to the Vikings that year (1964) and for the next 10 yrs I watched and cheered my brother and his team mates to 4 Super bowls. They never did win one, which is why I continue to be their biggest fan in Montana. My hope is …with the core players we have now we can get back to the SB within the next few years. 47 years is a long time in any relationship! I’ve been married for 31 years and some of those were terrible too :). I never stopped loving my wife in the bad years and I will not stop loving the Vikings in the bad years! My hope is that my Brother can see them win the big one before its to late. He’s in his 70′s now, but doing really good for a big man that played in the Grant era for 10 years. So, What I see in the Vikes now is the real potential to be great again in a short time! Do any of you see what I see? Or, am I deluded with eternal and internal blind faith?

  88. By Dryes on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Mike wobbs has the potential to drive this team away because the fans are sick of his idiot!c lies. Move Mike Wobbs and keep the Vikes!! Mike Wobbs lessens the team and is trying to lie to keep fans delusional. Thats the last thing this team needs… more delusion. What a little p-u-n-k.

  89. By PAUL M. on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Surely, the Vikings DO have the potential to be great! We have a core of players that is Championship quality and must build on that quickly & intelligently. NOW — WHILE ADRIAN IS STILL IN HIS PRIME!

  90. By Titus on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    I just watched some of Cam Newton’s presser on the Panther site— after two and a half minutes, I could not take it anymore– he was almost crying and pouted throughout. WOW.

  91. By sandiamond on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Best Free Agents Available:

    Cornerbacks~~~~

    Leigh Bodden
    Fabian Washington
    Randall Gay
    Lito Sheppard
    Tye Hill
    Nate Vasher
    Brian Williams
    Nathan Jones
    Benny Sapp
    Eric King
    Jonathan Wade
    Fred Bennett
    Will James
    Keiwan Ratliff
    Karl Paymah
    Trumaine McBride
    David Jones
    Trevard Lindley
    Quincy Butler
    Mike Richardson
    Coye Francies
    Tony Carter
    Will Blackmon (KR)
    Maurice Leggett
    Josh Moore
    Brandon Underwood
    Robert McClain
    Courtney Brown

  92. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    @ Dryes…..truer words have never been spoken.

  93. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    I was also going to mention that he reminds me of a Q-tip, but that seems too juvenile.

  94. By sandiamond on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    @ Shawn look at this pile of heap and stop being foolish about Asher!

  95. By PAUL M. on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Right now we have a glaring weakness at the edges on both sides of the ball. Specifically, the Vikings need more speed at WR — to stretch defenses vertically & to draw safety play away from other weapons, as well as more speed at CB so that we don’t get blown away by a Greg Jennings, etc.

    We’ve got to decide on Chris Cook — our best CB, sorry to say.

  96. By PAUL M. on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Senator B’mann = Fed Tax Attorney = Exemptions; Write-Offs; Federal Adoption Tax Credits & Deductions.

    23 foster children = about $400,000 per year = checks from the Big Government that she asserts “needs to cut spending”.

  97. By Titus on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Nova, who is a Q-Tip?

  98. By Carl K on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    The way Ponder and Newton are playing… I think QBs will be lining up this offseason to work out with Chris Weinkie at IMG Madden Football Academy.

  99. By sandiamond on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Best Free Agents Available:

    Offensive tackle~~~~

    Ryan Harris (RT)
    Alex Barron (RT)
    Nick Kaczur (RT/G)
    Mario Henderson (RT/LT)
    Flozell Adams (RT/LT)
    Mark Tauscher (RT)
    Langston Walker (RT/LT)
    Kevin Shaffer (RT/LT)
    Jordan Black (RT)
    George Foster (RT)
    Barry Sims (LT)
    Adam Terry (RT/LT)
    Allen Barbre (LT/RT)
    Ray Willis (RT)
    Renardo Foster (T)
    Tony Moll (RT)
    Mike Williams (LT/RT)
    Rob Petitti (RT)
    Seth Wand (RT)

  100. By Shawn on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    sandiamond … I saw 5 names better than Asher, Asher Sux stop kidding yourself. I dont know who is worse Asher or Tyrell , but they are the Bernard Berrians of the defense.

  101. By PAUL M. on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    SPEED ON THE EDGES!!

    BOTH OFFENSE & DEFENSE!!

  102. By PAUL M. on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    OF COURSE, O-LINE COMES 1st!

  103. By Shawn on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    sadiamond are you buying into the wobschall proganda? you know we are 2-6 with the 29th ranked pa-ss defense, meaning we have one of the worse secondaries in the NFL

    Asher Allen suxxxxxxxx

  104. By Carl K on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    The Panthers and the Vikings have some talented playmakers, but both teams have plenty of holes and rough edges that need improvement.

    It will be interesting to see which of these teams can improve the most through free agency and the draft in the next couple of years.

  105. By PAUL M. on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    C’MON ZIGGY — TIME TO SPRINKLE SOME GREEN $$$ FAIRY DUST $$$ OVER THIS TEAM!

  106. By vlad19 on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    shawn, you speak the truth….. The hype will never get a team better. Wobs does what a decent beat writer does, “happy speak” – learned fans and critics don’t buy it though – like that he thinks Berrian was a good WR… Our defense stepped it up. You would not call your ugly sister ugly in public either.

    Our Org needs to get over themselves – drafts suck because of the “best athlete” nonsense, so we rarely draft what we NEED in positions. How is it we can never draft good seconary talent? How is it we keep getting guys like Asher Allen, Ty Johnson? Wobs very sincere belief that because those guys are still around, they must be good enough…. They are not. At 53, I could probably beat both one on one!

    273 yds a game, and we have a half-deent to good passrush…. that says all you need to know. Our secondary is the worst in the league.

  107. By Dryes on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    -NovaScotiaVike- I have had a hard time getting downright juvenile when I think of Mike Wobbs as well. Maybe he’s paying back society for the fact that he was bullied as a kid. If he’s a Q-tip then his blogs are toilet paper. Thats why i’m wiping my insults on it right now:)) Ok, I’ve officially lowered myself to childishness…

  108. By Dryes on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    But seriously he is a negative factor because of the delusional way he looks at things. Any respectable organization can admit that they have weaknesses so that they can address them. Otherwise the organization is dysfunctional and festers with a chain of non-beneficial events. The root of the problem is the organizations unwillingness to be up front with its supporters and themselves!

  109. By Mike B. on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    I have to agree with some of the criticism here. This blog story is insulting to the fans and views intelligence. To put kudos on the Offensive Line and Defensive Secondary is ridiculous. Even during the web chat Mike W. hinted that no one at the first half was playing well. Then to come back and add Kudo to our two weakest part of the team is beyond bad. I am sorry Wobby this post is beyond Viking butt kissing. You should consider retracting this and pointing out something more realistic. Sorry but I can’t swallow this it causes too much choking.

  110. By Titus on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Oh, Wobs is a Q-Tip. Well, he writes his articles with one, that is for sure. No substance. You need ink in that there Q-Tip, Son!

  111. By sandiamond on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Shawn we are too far gone along in the season to be adding players at such a key position. You gotta fiqure the rookies would be the replacements first so free agents double back on any wish list

  112. By PAUL M. on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    I KNOW WE GET ON WOBSCHALL TO LET HIM KNOW THAT VIKINGS FANS HAVE A DECENT GRIP ON FOOTBALL REALITY!

    THAT SAID MIKE — PLEASE TONE THE SESAME STREET SING – ALONGS DOWN A BIT, WOULD YOU PLEASE?

    WE KNOW YOU’RE DOING YOUR JOB — JUST LEAVE YOUR TIARA & MAGIC WAND IN THE OTHER ROOM BEFORE YOU SIT DOWN TO TYPE YOUR BLOG.

  113. By Shawn on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    sadiamond .. yea i agree it cant get worse so everyone should be getting a shot at corner. Try McNabb there :) it cant get worse

  114. By Shawn on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    sandiamond my wish list is only to give the next guy a shot before next season so we know what we got … anyone heck try McNabb at corner IDC

  115. By Shawn on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    hmm delayed post made me try a new way to say the same thing

  116. By Mike B. on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Realistically at 2-6 we are not going to be making any big splashes with free agents. First of all guys like TO and Moss aren’t going to a 2-6 team even on a one year contract. Most of the guys you list have only 1 or 2 yrs left anyway. Just have deal with what is on the team now. Hope for the best.

  117. By sandiamond on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Yea Frazier has a tight conservative pecking order with lineup changes. Maybe we should focus on any of these rookies getting more action in the secondary come game time

  118. By PAUL M. on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    TO PROVE OUR POINT, MIKE:

    Go to the NFL’s stats website & look up Offensive Line Rankings. THE VIKINGS O-LINE IS RANKED 25th out of 32 teams!!

  119. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Just line up 5 Gatorade buckets in the secondary……at least we won’t get any PI penalties.

  120. By PAUL M. on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    WE’RE 29th OUT OF 32 IN PASS DEFENSE AS OF THIS WEEK!

  121. By Mike B. on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    I actually think if a team got beat up at QB out of our division. I think Frazier and Speilman would cut McNabb to catch on that other team to save some salary.

  122. By sandiamond on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Mike we need McNabb this year… knock on wood…. jic

  123. By Titus on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    I want to try some grilled Wahoo.

  124. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    I think just start 6 D linemen and 5 LB play a 20 yard zone and just say f&ck it if we can’t get to the qb in 1.4 seconds, I think our defense would be vastly improved

  125. By vlad19 on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    The end all is the Org, regardless of what Wobbs says, is the problem. Speilman and his scouts can’t find talent and have no nose for it. Then they pick up FA like Baskett, Pinkett, Berrian, Jenkins….. While Brandon Lloyd moves and we sit idly by… last year, Stephen Jackson was begging for a way out of SD and we sit on Berrian as our “talent”….

    Our secondary is the worst in football without Winfiled or Cook on the field. And the Org can’t seem to figure out HOW to acquire or draft real talent. In fact, if ta’ll remember, we traded Bennie Sapp, a decent nickle back, to get Greg “Piney-azz” Camarillo as the FIX to our ridiculous WR hole left us by bad scouting and drafting and Rice on IR….

    No, this is one the Org needs to answer to, and Spielman needs to come out front and center! THAT is where reality and correction begins!

    Our o-line is absurdly porous and feeble and slow, and we can’t find a guy who wants to punch back!

  126. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Tyrell Johnson…..a Gatorade bucket that can drink and drive.

  127. By Constructive criticism on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    LETS BE REAL, OUR DEFENSE DID NOT STEP UP. WE ALMOST LOST THE GAME BECAUSE OUR D-LINE COULDNT PRESSURE NEWTON AND OUR SECONDARY ALLOWED A 4 & 14 CONVERSION. WHO DOES THAT? NOT A PLAYOFF/CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM. OUR SECONDARY HAS BEEN TERRIBLE FOR THE LAST 3 YEARS AND BEFORE THAT IT WAS AVERAGE. WE NEED TO GET BETTER THERE. OUR O LINE IS BELOW AVERAGE. EITHER CB OR OL IN DRAFT. WR, MAYBE

  128. By Constructive criticism on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    P.S. HOPE WE DONT MOVE TO L.A. :(

  129. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Jared Allen: 34 Tackles
    Brian Robison: 17 Tackles
    Kevin Williams: 11 Tackles
    Remi Ayodele: 2 Tackles

    Anyone see anything wrong with that? Jared allen dominating isn’t a bandaid for our D line either, averages don’t count.

  130. By sandiamond on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Best Free Agents Available:

    Safety~~~~

    Renaldo Hill
    Marlin Jackson
    Darren Sharper
    Lawyer Milloy
    Roy Williams
    Eugene Wilson (CB)
    Chris Horton
    Ken Hamlin
    C.C. Brown
    Aaron Francisco
    Michael Lewis
    Macho Harris (CB)
    Matt Ware
    Pierson Prioleau
    Donnie Nickey
    Tom Nelson
    Tyrone Carter
    Pat Watkins
    Darcel McBath
    Antoine Harris
    Chris Reis
    Marcus Hudson
    Nick Sorensen
    Darcel McBath
    Jamie Silva
    Andrew Sandejo
    Myron Rolle

  131. By Constructive criticism on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    @Twoodsnvikes Remi Ayodele=WHO? we need pat back

  132. By sandiamond on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Rice
    McKinnie
    Leber
    P. Williams

    missing links

  133. By Constructive criticism on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    WE CANT HAVE A YOUNG QB GET BEAT UP. IT RUINS THEM, PONDER HAS SOME SPEED BUT IT WONT HELP AGAINST PEPPERS SUH AND MATHEWS. WE SHOULDVE KEPT MCKINNEY. HE GOT FAT BUT HES DOING BETTER THAN CHARLIE NO BLOCK JOHNSON

  134. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    @sandiamond: There’s no point to getting the free agents now in a lost year. We need to put in our rookies to see what we have and know where to draft next year

  135. By DRS on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Shawn we will have to agree to disagree, and hope someone will come to the conclusion that for the Vikings to stay in MN they need a new stadium, now.

  136. By Constructive criticism on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    CHRIS COOK NEEDS TO FOCUS ON BEATING WR’S INSTEAD HE FOCUSES ON BEATING WOMEN

  137. By DRS on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    # 1 Need in my opinion is D-Fence, # 2 needs O-Lineman, Hope rising in MN.

    God bless you all

  138. By DRS on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Good night everyone.

  139. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Interesting statistic…….Since the year 2000, the Vikes have had more felony convictions than any other team in the league. ….Yes, that includes the Raiders and Bengals. I wonder if Wobschall will comment on that?……..(Wobschall)…”Even though the Vikings have had their fair share of criminals, we have yet to employ an ax-murderer”.

  140. By DRS on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Happy – holloweenie – everyone!

  141. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    ( Wobschall)……” Although I’m excited about trying out Charles Manson at CB ” !

  142. By PAUL M. on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    SORRY, CHRIS COOK NEEDS TO GO NOW!!!

    IMAGINE THIS:

    IT’S 2012 & OUR VIKINGS ARE POISED TO MAKE IT TO THE PLAY-OFFS. AS WE APPROACH THE BIGGEST GAME OF THE SEASON & THE PRESSURES MOUNT — ***NEWS FLASH***– “CHRIS COOK WAS ARRESTED LAST NIGHT FOR ALLEGEDLY . . .”

    . . . . AND THE VIKINGS’ ENTIRE SEASON OF WORK GOES UP IN FLAMES . . .

  143. By DRS on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    http://bleacherreport.com/tb/bbMQD

  144. By sandiamond on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Associated Press
    EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. — The Minnesota Vikings are discussing suspended cornerback Chris Cook’s future.

    Coach Leslie Frazier said he’d be meeting Monday afternoon with team officials to “see which direction we’re going to be heading” with Cook, who was charged last week with felony domestic assault for allegedly trying to strangle his girlfriend. Frazier sidestepped a question at his news conference about whether Cook could be released. The coach said only, “We’ve got a lot of things to talk about.”

    The Vikings have their bye this week, but Frazier said “all indications are” cornerback Antoine Winfield will be back from a neck injury to play Green Bay on Nov. 14. Winfield has missed four games. He said “without a doubt” he’ll be on the field against the Packers

  145. By Mike B. on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    No point sweating over it DRS they will either get it done or don’t It’s up to the Gov and legislature. They have to decide if NFL football is important to Minneasota or not.

  146. By Frederick Jones on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    @TWoodsVike,

    Yes, I like your lists of college players we should draft in May.

    Keep those lists and rerun them in April when you have even more
    knowledge of the college players.

    Better yet, could you get a job with the Vikings as a scout?
    Perhaps NOVA could join you with a baseball bat to hammer some
    sense into all of our VPs :) :)

  147. By Shawn on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Paul M … I agree, thats exactly how it would happen.

  148. By Frederick Jones on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    I read most of the above posts. It seems as if everyone feels the top
    weak area is the defensive secondary, closely followed by the Offensive Line.

    Is there anyone out there who feels that there are areas we need help with even more than the DBs or OLs???

    And if so why???

    I’ll try not to be harsh, but don’t count on the rest of the bloggers. :)

  149. By Shawn on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Nova … great stuff. Maybe Charles Manson could get some work release.

    Charles Manso couldnt be worse than Asher and Tyrell.

    Tyrell a breathing gatorade jug …. funny stuff nova

  150. By Frederick Jones on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    By Frederick Jones on Feb 1, 2011 | Reply

    Let’s face it, it’s hard to judge who’s go to be a star at the QB position.

    If you have followed the careers of Kurt Warner, Brett Favre, Johnny Unitas, Bart Starr, etc. then you know this is true.

    What we have to do is get some offensive linemen who can, and want, to play football. That should be the goal for this year. Anything else is gravy

  151. By Arrow86 on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    O-line, secondary, and start rebuilding the interior defensive line.

  152. By Arrow86 on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    I’d love to see the Vikes stay. However, I don’t feel the Vikes have put forth the best effort to field a quality team. It’s been, what can we do to be just good enough to get a new stadium. The same people who are driving the bus off the bridge are keeping their jobs. Our salary cap is a mess.

    Recently, Oklahoma City revisited the $200 million they spent to lure the Thunder of the NBA. They’ve come back with the realization that if they had dropped that money over the city from helicopters in $20 bills, they’d have created 2 or 3 times as many jobs as what they’ve gotten out of the Thunder coming to town.

  153. By VegasVike on Oct 31, 2011 | Reply

    Mike B buddy, sorry I missed you the other day. All I know is the score of the game, didn’t see it and probably never will. A wins a win in my book, let’s get some more. Other teams have holes too.

  154. By DWang on Nov 1, 2011 | Reply

    Should be retitled, “O-Line and Defense sucked less in second half”

  155. By Mike B. on Nov 1, 2011 | Reply

    @Arrow86 The entire time the metrodome has been in use the Vikings have had sell out crowds most of the time. Even with some pretty poor teams on the field. Vikings fans have the never say die attitude and always there to support the team. They have good corporate sponsers also. The Fargodome just west of the twin cities has been operating the black since it was built. The problem is there are politicians too worried about their reelection that what’s good for the Metropolitan area. There is too much self interest by the Minneapolis coalition. Their first priority is getting a facility the team is proud to be in and then getting it done. The Wilfs are investing a ton of money to help the team stay in MN. Republicans have always been about creating jobs and promoting business, but now some are more concerned about taxes and public image than growing MN economy. This stadium is a guaranteed money maker let’s get it done.

  156. By Mike B. on Nov 1, 2011 | Reply

    If the state is so concerned with taxpayers fitting the bill make an agreement that the first party repaid is the state in the form of tax breaks paid back to the state/taxpayers from profits generated by the stadium. Make sure this is public knowledge information. Or even a fair portion of the profits. This way legislature can go to the public and say, hey we are going to get your taxes back when the stadium is making a profit. The PR on this stadium deal is so out of whack it’s not even funny.

  157. By Mike B. on Nov 1, 2011 | Reply

    @Fred keep up the good fight buddy

  158. By Im a Fan Not A Critic on Nov 1, 2011 | Reply

    @Mike B. For the most part I agree with you in everything you said, one thing that troubles me is look at all of the negative comments just on this blog post about the team. That doesn’t feel too much like support to me. No matter how well the team does it always seems like there are plenty of people to cut the team down.

    Personally in my opinion, I don’t think the Vikings NEED a new stadium; I think they WANT one. I have no problem watching a game at the Metrodome and I don’t think we should be spending even more money to build another stadium, BUT at the same time I’d rather see the stadium built than the team move away. I think I would have to stop watching football all together because I wouldn’t have a team to watch.

    I live in SD and am not in the MN taxpayer base, but does anyone know where you can donate towards the stadium effort. I wouldn’t mind throwing $500 or $1000 in to contribute to getting this thing built instead of the team leaving.

  159. By Twoodsnvikes on Nov 1, 2011 | Reply

    I’ll agree with some of that Fan. The Vikings certainly don’t NEED a new stadium. I have been to plenty of games at the metrodome and have wondered why everyone thinks its so terrible. I’m sure compared to all the new billion dollar stadiums it is far behind, but I think it is fine. I think the vikes are mostly trying to strong arm the state into paying for part of it at this point. We all know the Wilfs, if push came to shove, could foot that extra 400 million or whatever it is, but it’s cheaper for others to have to pay for it. I’m surprised by all of the people crying about how the state gov doesn’t want to increase taxes for the working man because they don’t want billionaire ziggi wilf to pay extra? It’s a bit contradictory of their beliefs.

  160. By Snowro on Nov 1, 2011 | Reply

    Vikings are going 7 and 9 on the year is my vote… Not too shabby

  161. By Troutdaddy on Nov 1, 2011 | Reply

    Wow, not sure if this is a blog or a lynching of Wob….I was under the impression that we just won a game and that this is a good thing? Seems like some people (Not to mention any names here) were saying Ponder would not amount to anything- they even called him a “Matt Lineart” not too long ago. Hmmm, now that the proof is in the pudding, can’t people just be happy for a second??? Geez, we know this team has areas that need HUGE improvements, but what a bunch of freaking whiners…I say Skol Vikes. Nice win, and lets do it again!

  162. By Mike B. on Nov 1, 2011 | Reply

    @I am fan not a critc and twoodsnvikes It is not an issue of need it’s a dollars and cents issue. The metrodome doesn’t generate enough revenue to keep a NFL team profitable amongst other NFL teams. For the Vikings it’s a new stadium and the location could be anywhere else. The Wilfs have decided that the Arden Hills site is it in MN or they will go elsewhere. Just that cut and dry. The NFL management is in agreement with the Wilfs. It’s up to MN if they want the Vikings or not also a very cut and dray issue. Build the stadium in Arden Hills the Vikings stay in MN also the History and Name stay in MN forever. Lots of positives to building the stadium and only short sightedness by othes trying to stop it. I am also from SD and our town built a small convention center on the wrong side of town and it has become a family gathering, weddings, and cage fighting venue. They outlawed the cage fighting so it’s pretty worthless. Need a large enough facility to get a great draw and keep them coming. Arden Hills is that.

  163. By DRG on Nov 1, 2011 | Reply

    Hey Shawn, before you go on bashing Republicans…how about that Obama you voted for? What a joke.

  164. By Shawn on Nov 1, 2011 | Reply

    DRG … ?

  165. By Shawn on Nov 1, 2011 | Reply

    DRG … I dont think your DRS unless you messed up ?

  166. By ozzinator on Nov 1, 2011 | Reply

    Obama who?

  167. By Im a Fan Not A Critic on Nov 1, 2011 | Reply

    @Mike B. I think we are from the same town, I actually had a part in the cage fighting being ended. That was my cousin that was killed in the bar fight.

  168. By Rocksalt on Nov 2, 2011 | Reply

    Good Points Mike B.
    Speaking of complete jokes for presidents.what about Bush?
    His broher Jeb helped him stal one election through voting fraud in FLA.
    The next election he stole through repub backed voter fraud in key states such as Ohio….
    He then went to war DESPITE NO WPM, and lack of consensus from MOST UN countires. This war has cost us over 6 trillion, and then his cronies made milliions of of the war(HALIBURTON, BLACKWATER)
    THEN, he was derelict in his response to Katrina.
    He advocated wiretapping and spying on the US citizenry
    He signed the bill to bail out Wall street….
    Oh and he also advocated our military to TORTURE enemy combatants, in violation of GENEVA convention…….

  169. By ozzinator on Nov 2, 2011 | Reply

    Good job Rocky, right out of the democrook playbook. Heard it all from the mainstream before.

  170. By Stoney on Nov 2, 2011 | Reply

    Rocksalt, I need some of what you’re smoking!

  171. By DrinkHeavyVikingFans on Nov 2, 2011 | Reply

    I’m not greedy..I’ll take the win..Granted the Panthers are not the Steelers..but with a Rookie QB, on the road, on grass against a guy throwing almost 300 yds/game and a receiver that we’ve NEVER been able to cover, the Vikes managed to eek out a win. What I have a problem with is Vikings mgt, coaches and players thinking that good play from Ponder and AP can make up for dreadful and even dangerous OL performances (4 sacks??? C’mon, reall?) and lousy D. But at least the team is now fun to watch..GO VIKES!

  172. By Skol_Vikes98 on Nov 2, 2011 | Reply

    You know guys, for all the complaints i see on the secondary, I’m guessing the organization is very aware of these flaws. To be fair, I think with another off season after surgery Cederic Griffin will probably be back to his old self. There was promise with Chris Cook, but he had to be an i d i o t and ruin his career over a woman. Kevin Williams probably never recovered from that foot injury — being a Bulls fan I know it was the same thing Noah and Deng went through, and it really takes a bite out of a players step for a while — Jared Allen, Brian Robinson and Fred Evans still look pretty good. On the D side of the ball it is bad right now, but from a front office standpoint, if Cook had developed, Griffin had bounced backed faster, Windfield stayed a touch healthier, the secondary wouldnt look nearly as bad. Not great mind you, but something to work with.

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