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Vikings Lead 17-13, Doleman Inducted Into Ring Of Honor At Halftime

Posted by Mike Wobschall on October 23, 2011 – 3:51 pm

It was Christian Ponder’s first career NFL start, but it didn’t take him long to get right into this Vikings-Packers rivalry. Playing for the 101st time in series history, the Vikings jumped out to a quick 7-0 lead behind a pair of Ponder completions right out of the gate.

On the game’s first offensive play, Ponder used a play-action fake and rollout to find a wide open Michael Jenkins down the left sideline for what was originally a 73-yard TD that caused the Mall of America Field crowd to burst into a frenzy. Officials took the TD away via replay, but just two plays later Ponder found TE Visanthe Shiancoe for a 2-yard TD and an early 7-0 lead.

Green Bay retaliated immediately, driving 91 yards in 9 plays to tie the game at 7.

Ponder guided another TD drive in the 2nd quarter that culminated in an Adrian Peterson TD, and a 14-7 lead. The Vikings and Packers exchanged FGs after that, which led to a 17-10 Vikings lead at halftime.

Credit goes to DE Jared Allen, who already has 2.0 sacks of Green Bay QB Aaron Rodgers. Allen’s first sack of the game set a new franchise record for consecutive games with at least a .5 sack, as Allen is now at 9. The previous record of 8 was set by Jim Marshall and Carl Eller.

Speaking of sacks by a DE, the man who ranks 4th all-time on the NFL sacks list is Chris Doleman, a former Vikings great. He was honored at halftime and was inducted into the Vikings Ring of Honor, becoming just the 19th individual to join this elite class of Vikings.


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207 Responses to “Vikings Lead 17-13, Doleman Inducted Into Ring Of Honor At Halftime”

  1. By Canadian Vikes Fan on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Vikings have the worst secondary I have ever seen. I mean its bad as it is not to mention Cook and Winfield are both out… Absolutely brutal Husain Abdullah is not an NFL player

  2. By TW VIKE on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    NO DBS

  3. By TW VIKE on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Waive McLoser & Berrian & get some secondary HELP!!!! Browner can play better. No A.P. on 3rd down, WHAT A JOKE!!!!!! What games do you people watch!!!!!

  4. By martin on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I believe this secondary would have problems vs an all star high school football team

  5. By TW VIKE on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    High school, more like Pee-Wee!!!!!

  6. By TW VIKE on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    We need cover corners!!!

  7. By TW VIKE on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    They are wide OPEN!!!!!~

  8. By TW VIKE on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    More cheers from Packer fans!!!!

  9. By TW VIKE on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Lets lose 4 LUCK!!!!!!

  10. By TW VIKE on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    We R done

  11. By TW VIKE on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    PATHETIC!!!!!!

  12. By TW VIKE on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    We cant WIN!!!!!

  13. By TW VIKE on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    U cant make a chicken out of chicken POOP!!!!

  14. By TW VIKE on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    This means no more #28

  15. By TW VIKE on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Cant chew gum, watch the game,& blog all at once!!!!

  16. By stew on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I wish i could sh** in the entrance of the Packers locker room right before halftime!

  17. By kevin on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    we want Webb. Give Webb a chance

  18. By kevin on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    we want Webb. Give Webb a chance. we want childress

  19. By stew on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Can we chill with the lose for Ponder chants, I rather keep, my pride and dignity over a draft pick!

  20. By stew on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    *Luck my bad lol been drinking

  21. By stew on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    He throwing picks but he learning things that you can only learn through experience. I say he was worth the 1st round pick, because if we didnt pick him we would be stuck with Mcnobody.

  22. By kevin on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    i was joking about the score at halftime it would be 35-17 Greenbay, Vikings scoreless second half. LMAO!!!

  23. By stew on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Upside we sacking Rodgers lol

  24. By kevin on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Well we got Webb…

  25. By stew on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Kevin kill yourself with a samuari sword to the heart!

  26. By stew on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Ap= beastmoode! How can people ponder in their minds that it would be good to trade him for picks, like how dumb would that be?

  27. By stew on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Why we running so much put the ball in the air!

  28. By stew on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    One thing i dont like about Ponder is his deep ball!

  29. By kevin on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    LMAO, truth hurts doesnt it…We want WEBB….Im a die hard Vikings fan..GO VIKES!!!

  30. By Old School on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    It’s going to be a long 5 years or so coming!

    I wanted Ponder in there…..

    I HAVE CONCERNS NOW!

    MIGHT WANT TO LOSE THE REST AND TRADE UP FOR LUCK!

  31. By kevin on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Hey stew…im still alive..its torture but im still alive…freakin aye Stew…im hangin in there are you???

  32. By Eric on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I can’t wait until the Vikings move to LA…. I’m discussed w the lack of support of the fair weather fans. Green Bay literally had a home game. I’m not saying it would have made a difference in the outcome, but I hope we move west.

  33. By truther on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Well, the whole world now knows that C Ponder should have been the starting QB from day one. We also know for certian that three of our players in our secoundary are not smat enough or telented enough to play at the NFL level as well as some of our offencesive receivers and linemen. We also now know for certian tha our Off- coridinator and Deff- Corridinator do not posses the abillity to make adjustments throughout the games. This points to one huge glaring problem and it is now certian. Be honest and ask your self who is totaly responsible for vetting all of these individuals and comparing there play and performance to those realy good players and coaches around the league. Yes that person that is responsible for building a competative team is LESLIE FRAZIER. Unless Mr Wilf hasnt learned from the recent past and replaces L Frazier with a proven head coach, This debacle will continue and the revenue from the fans will dry up by mid season next year. I wanted L Frazier to succeede more than anyone, But it is absolutely conclusive that Frazier is devoid of the natural intangibles that good to great head coaches are born with.

  34. By kevin on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    eric can you picture los angeles vikings?? it doesnt even sound good…does san francisco viqueens sound better??

  35. By mr smiff on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    COME ON D!!!! PUT PRESSURE ON RODGERS AND HE WILL FOLD LIKE A MORNING NEWSPAPER!!!! LET’S DO THIS!!!!

  36. By PONDERTHEFUTURE on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    touchdown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  37. By stew on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    We dont know what pressure is! Maybe Tampa 2 lol

  38. By Titus on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    BAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  39. By Old School on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Does this team have one guy….

    JUST ONE GUY…THAT CAN COVER A WIDEOUT????????????

    THIS TEAM HAS ZERO SECONDARY!

  40. By Viking Joe on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    The Vikings secondary is terrible !!!!! Ponder is going to have growing pains, but he’s doing ok, 2 TD’s and 2 picks. Alot better than McNabb could have done,

  41. By angelasioux on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Rodgers is running around from the Vikings because he doesnt want to embarass them…c’mon man…Champs against a ROOKIE quarterback…yeah ok..

  42. By stew on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    They cheating for Greenbay, can we get a pass interference?

  43. By Rocksalt on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    RIGHT ON TRUTHER………WHY HAVE WE NOT HAD PONDER IN EARLIER THIS YEAR??? MC NABB SUX

  44. By Rocksalt on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    SHUT THE F UP STEW

  45. By Rocksalt on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Sorry Stew thought you said otherwise…….

  46. By Rocksalt on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    FRAZIER WTF YOU MARRIED TO MCNABB SO LONG? YOU COST US……….

  47. By Rocksalt on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    FRAZIER- MY FAITH IN YOU HAS FALTERED

  48. By stew on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    @Rocksalt i was about to say huh! The NFL is so biased!

  49. By stew on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    This is where Jared Allen gets them jumping offsides!

  50. By kevin on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    the vikings are goind to do it…they going to hold them..

  51. By Rocksalt on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    SHIIIIT!!!!!!!!!

  52. By troutdaddy on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Frazier is a big chicken…. freaking go for it!!! C’Mon….. Ponder has done awesome today- even with the INT’s. So happy to see this team fight!

  53. By stew on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Win or lose i bet Greenbay wont talk sh** the next time we play. I figure our upside is greater than theirs being Ponder will be more experienced the next time we face!

  54. By kevin on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I believe Frazier is not in control of the Vikings, and if he was in control of the team it would not make no difference, he is not a good coach, he is a puppet, ziggy and his staff are making the decisions and controlling his every move, The Vikings need somebody like the two time superbowl winner..he is known as “the tuna” i forgot his name, and the coach, like the chucky doll hes known as, i forgot his name too.

  55. By Rocksalt on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    we stacked the box and still could not stop the run!

  56. By Titus on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Well, gang, looks like we might not make the playoffs this year.

  57. By troutdaddy on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    What a nugget… Frazier you should be ashamed. No guts to go for it….. Ponder- you are the man my friend! Way to give it your all!

  58. By Rocksalt on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Titus- What up with your guarantees????

  59. By PONDERTHEFUTURE on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    really titus? what makes you say that?

  60. By kevin on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    the vikings are playing 85 percent, if they played 100 percent, just think…

  61. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    We scored 27 points, this loss is on the D.

  62. By Bigfan1 on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Best game of the year by far, Ponder was fantastic in his first game and AP over 170 yards, one TD away from dethroning the cheeseheads. When we get a few needed additions in the 2012 draft we’ll be back baby.

  63. By Rocksalt on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Titus- Vikes by 21……..Vikes 12-4, Vikes 11-5……….get real, man!

  64. By Brad on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Well Ponder “ROOKIE” gave GB a run for their money. Better than McNabb would have ever done. Congratulations Ponder, great job for your first start.

  65. By TW VIKE on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Ponder is fine

  66. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Where’s Fred? can we agree our number one draft pick needs to be a DB???? Our Oline is good enough to get AP 175 yards, our DBs can’t stop a 5th grade team

  67. By Titus on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Get real? No one is real on here. I just read the comment we play 85% — if we play 100%, just think– what is that???? We are 1-6. Reality is this year is over. We are not what we thought we were. Maybe, just maybe, we don’t have ALL this talent I keep hearing from so many— we need lots of help. LOTS OF HELP.

    Ponder looks very good, though. You never know. Maybe we will win the next 9 and get a wildcard spot.

  68. By TW VIKE on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    We gave them a run!!!! Waive McSCab&Berrian

  69. By Rye on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Close and exciting game. The good news is Ponder is for real. Vikings fans can feel good that a rookie QB had that performance against the defending superbowl champs.

    I would imagine that all the Ponder critics will eat their words.

    Now vikings can focus on OL and DB in the draft.

    Vikings will be back on top of the North next year…. IF the state gives them a stadium.

  70. By TW VIKE on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    175 4 A.P.

  71. By Brad on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I guess this somewhat proves that the OL is not with McNabb being QB. I heard that McNabb was the last one in and the first one to leave at practices and was always late for meetings. Show what kind of leader he is compared to Ponder.

  72. By Sweden Viking on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Ponder did a good job! of cause he needs some improvements at certain things, but not bad at all… If he would have played from game 1 we would be 4-3 right now!
    Still liked what I saw! A bit to many mistakes on D, but oh well….

  73. By Rocksalt on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Yes Titus- get real………your predictions are wildly unrealistic, yet you claim to be objective and logical……..

  74. By Brad on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    @ Rye
    I agree that it was a very exciting game to watch.

  75. By Rocksalt on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    FRAZIER- Egg on your face for not giving ponder the chance ealier in year

  76. By Rocksalt on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Secondary is very poor…..

  77. By Rye on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    For all the people calling for Frazier to be fired, just remember that many GREAT coaches had rough first years.

    I still believe Frazier will be a good coach. Next year I believe this team will be back on top. Especially since it looks like Ponder is a VERY GOOD young QB. This means the vikings will be able to focus on the secondary and the offensive line.

    Frazier will grow as a coach, get read of Berrian and other loose ends, and fill holes next year.

    Give it time, it will happen.

  78. By martin on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Newton had 2 -400 passing games in his first two games…why do i have a feeling that a 3rd 400 yard passing game is coming up for him soon…after the bye week we will have to score 45 points to have a chance at a win in green bay…the vikings secondary talent evaluators lead by mr time to go away speilman has been terrible for years…the spin on this game by spielman will be we beat the point spread…it is a disgrace that the green bay packers were over 12 point favourites in minnesota…no way spielman and his gang can be back next year

  79. By purplerainman on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    What a great effort by this team today on offense! In case someone missed it, the Packers were 6-0 for a reason. It was extremely nice to see a quarterback with a winning spirit out there today. It was equally as nice to see guys want to catch the ball for him. I think had Harvin been in there late at the end we may have pulled this one out. I am not sure what the deal is with our secondary and MLBs but we really seem to play off the ball 5-10 in some cases. I can only think it is due to Winny and Cook being out. Just wondering what this team would have been like with Ponder starting the season full force. Looking forward to the future!

  80. By Titus on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Rocky, we all need to get real. Truth is, we have to wait a year or two before a Superbowl- but boy did Ponder look good.

  81. By Brad on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I do not understand why people keep asking for Luck in next year draft when we need more important help elswhere. We already got a good QB named Ponder. He just needs a little time to gain experience and he will do just fine. I mean come on he gave them a run for their money in that game. Forget about drafting another QB and work on drafting DB, Secondary, etc.

  82. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    27 points should be enough to win any game. Our defense sucks.

  83. By Calim on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    It is a loss, but I still quite like what I’ve seen during this game.
    Berger did good at C, Ponder seems like he could become a really great player and some WR are really stepping up. At the end of the day, the Vikings only lost by 6 points against a red hot Packers team while playing with basically no secondary.
    Usually, that wouldn’t be such a good thing, but that’s the same team that lost 39-10 last week against the Bears.
    This team didn’t get a win today, but it did get hope. The season was lost anyway, so getting away from the game with a pretty good score against the consensus best team in the league, remotivated players and a better draft pick for next year is good enough for me. This team has switched to rebuilding mode, it’s not looking for wins, it’s looking for players improvement.

  84. By AlbinoSnowman on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I’m most pleased with Jenkins, we all knew he could do it.

    And now he did it.

  85. By purplerainman on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    We had a shot a Cromarte or Asomugha in the off-season and we should have grabbed both of them. Clearly the RED flag this year is our secondary. Poor Ced is getting beat on just about every play it think he might be done. Allen is too small and Abdulah just doesn’t seem physical enough since his injury. We really need to overhaul our entire secondary.

  86. By radzinwisconsin on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Sick of Percy Harvin pulling himself in the second halfs of ball games!

  87. By Titus on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    What will the headlines be tomorrow? Ponder narrowly misses comeback win in exciting divisional nail-biter.

  88. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Titus…….it will involve Allen’s sacks.

  89. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I think this game showed the offensive line is not as bad as everyone keeps saying they are. Sure there may be a hole or two to fill, but the main weakness is pass defense. Still no excuse for not stopping them on all those runs on the last drive and get the ball back for Ponder. Frazier had to have them punt it, no choice. 4th and 10 conversion rate is less then 20% and if they don’t convert it, timeouts or not, game was over. They’d have already been in FG range, two possession game, no chance. Our best and only chance was to punt it and get a stop, which the defense had been doing of late up to that point. Especially knowing it was going to be all runs, they should’ve been able to get it done. But honestly I feel if the pass defense was better that would allow our run defense to get back to where it used to be. And its still not all that bad, they just struck out in a big spot today. Nothing wrong with Frazier, he will become a better coach over the years. Takes all new coaches time to improve. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with Ponder either. Sure he made a couple mistakes that rookie is going to make, but this was his first start, and with all the good things he did, I think he is going to be our franchise quarterback and we will be successful with him for a long time to come. He will only get better, and he seems to have the intangibles that a QB needs to be able to become successful in the NFL. Great feel for pressure, good clock in his head as far as getting the ball out, generally makes good decisions, not afraid to throw it away, not afraid to run but at the same time, not too eager to run as so many young QBs are. I agree with whoever said this loss was on the D. And I do believe our front 4 and LBs are fine. The one big hole to fill is the defensive backfield, once that is done, and Ponder has some time (i.e. the rest of this season) to grow and improve, we will have a complete team. I like to think big, but even being completely realistic, I see playoffs next year and a good run, and legitimate Super Bowl contenders within 3 years. Most of the pieces are in place. Get those DBs fixed and we will have a good team for a long, long time to come. Jared Allen still young, AP still young, Greenway still young, Robison is looking good and hes young, this team will be together for quite a while. Kevin Williams is getting up there so that will be a spot to fill when he finally calls it quits but for this team is headed in the right direction now, win or lose today. I hate waiting as much as the next fan, I really thought this would be a good year, but even accepting the reality of the situation I think that all true Vikings fans have a lot to look forward to. Also, I think Jenkins and Aromashadu are showing they are much more capable than some thought prior to the season. It was nice to see guys help Ponder out by making some nice catches today, but the part about him that I was most impressed to see was his decision making. Sure he had the two interceptions, which I might add were by one of the all time greats at DB, but for a rookie making his first start, his knowledge of the game, decision making and all the other intangibles that great QBs require really impressed me. We are headed in the right direction folks. I hate rebuilding years too but I am honestly much happier than I ever thought I could be after a loss to GB. They have a very very bright future. Oh and I do believe that sooner or later Rodgers and the Packers will get knocked on their @$$e$, they are far from invincible, and I can’t wait for that to happen. So all fans, keep your heads up, keep rooting, keep watching Ponder and the team grow. I think the franchise took a huge step today by starting him, and I couldn’t have been happier with what I saw. GO VIKES!!

  90. By BILLYBOB GAGNON on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    it’s not the players it’s the coaching.Frazier is one great defensive coach but not that good at head coach.musgrave is a looser just like goodell is both MORONS.ALSO U DONT BUILD A NICE NEW STADIUM FOR LOOSERS.
    MY OPINION

  91. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Could you put that in an easier-to-read format???????????????????

  92. By Canadian Vikes Fan on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    The good? Ponder far exceeded my expectations for his first ever start. A key thing about Ponder is his ability to convert on 3rd downs, something that McNabb could only dream of. A couple throws he’d like to have back but again, he’s a rookie in his first ever start against a ballhawking secondary. I think he is for sure the future of the team at the position. Jenkins and AP are both beasts.

    The bad? The secondary is really bad. Hopefully they can draft Dre Kirkpatrick or another secondary player, or make a move in free agency. Chris Cook is promising, he could be a good 2nd corner, if they had a shutdown corner on top of that and safeties who could tackle/cover this team could be good with CP and AP doing it on offence.

  93. By BILLYBOB GAGNON on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    IT’S THE OFFENSIVE GAME CALLING THAT’S BAD.MUSGRACE COULDN’T MAKE THE CORRECT CALL IN A GAY BAR

  94. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Sorry, was just in rant mode. Should’ve separated it into paragraphs. The cliff notes: Ponder was extremely impressive and will be a great QB in this league for years to come. Our O line is better than people give them credit for, as are our receivers. Our defense was the reason for this loss today, and the only real big hole we have to fill is DBs. I don’t know why they failed to get that last stop, that one is on them. But Frazier will get better as a coach, we are fine with him. Once we get some DBs that can cover, we will be a perennial contender again for years to come. And I am as happy as I’ve ever been after a Vikings loss. There ya go.

  95. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I tried to copy “War and Peace” , but there must have been a bad word, the moderator wouldn’t have it.

  96. By truther on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    We need to trade Percy Harvin For a couple of high draft picks Like a #2 and a #4 so we can rebuild quickly. Percy is to fragile and is always hurt or has a migraine. There is a ton of bigger more phisical and just as fast receivers in the upcoming draft. I know we can replace Harvin with a # 4 pick. We need to trade him while his stock is high and he is still healthy. He won’t stay that way much longer especialy at the slot position as he is only 184 Pounds soaking wet. He will not be able to susstain the hits from 250 pound Line backers for very much longer. I would hate to see him go, but he is one of the answers to filling multiple positions with young tough talented players.

  97. By Titus on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Nova, are you suggesting paragraph breaks, section break, indentions, gray space, anything please?

  98. By Bigfan1 on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Ponder is our QB hopefully for a long time. This game showed our weaknesses, definitely DBs, we need a cornerback desperately.

  99. By Titus on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Tolstoy you’re not.

  100. By kevin on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    VIKINGS HAVE WASTED TALENT ON THE SIDELINE, U HAVE JOE WEBB ON THE SIDELINE AND HIS ORIGINAL POSITION IS A WIDE RECEIVER/RUNNING BACK/QUARTERBACK/PUNT RETURNER/KICKOFF RETURNER..AND ALL HE CAN DO IS CARRY MCNABB’S HAT ON THE SIDELINE. THEN U HAVE PERCY HARVIN, HE COULD HAVE REPLACED HIM AND TOOK HIS PLACE AS A WIDE RECEIVER. BUT INSTEAD U TAKE ADRIAN PETERSON, PERCY HARVIN AND JOE WEBB ON THE SIDELINE ON THIRD DOWN, AND BRING IN TTTTTOOOOOOBBBBBYYYYY. IM NOT AN OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR, BUT U HAVE THE BEST RUNNING BACK IN THE NFL ON THE SIDELINE WITH POSSIBLY THE TWO FASTEST NFL WIDE RECEIVERS ON THE SIDELINE…C’MON MAN…

  101. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    why don’t they let you edit your own messages on this site?

  102. By purplerainman on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    While we’re on the topic of rebuilding….

    I think the Vikings curse on defense is the Tampa 2. Honestly. They play too soft in the middle trying to prevent a deep ball and in turn they get beat in the middle. They eventually open themselves up for the deep ball or become victim to the ground and pound late like they did today. I really think we should try to install a 3-4 with some sort of a freak out or ballistic blitz package like all the greats have.

  103. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Titus, I just read that and developed glaucoma.

  104. By BleedingPurpleinAlaska! on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Ok Parcells (the Tuna) and Gruden (Chuckie) do not need to come to Minny. Parcells is to old, he prove that on his last stint at Dallas. Gruden took a team that Dungy built, won a superbowl, and then ran it into the ground within no time. No thanks on either one. If we do replace Frazier, which I think he is fine we just need a new OC, then bring in the Bill Cower Power Hour!

  105. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    oh get over it nova. I already apologized AND gave you the cliff notes. and its not all that hard to read and comprehend anyway. Ever read a book with a long paragraph? lol

  106. By purplerainman on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I think you could bring back Denny Green to this team and win it all. Between Peterson, Harvin, Rudolph, Shank and Jenkins we should smoking teams on offense. I think Vikes fans got a short glimpse at the future on offense today. Wait until these guys get in a rhythm with one another its going to be fun to watch.

  107. By jdude on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Several things I liked today. One Ponder can move the ball. Two we made the Packer defense look bad. Three we can win we just need our starting corners back.

  108. By Tom on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Does anyone know why the defense sits and waits for the opposing team’s WR to run an extra 5 or so yards before they even attempt to tackle them. It is like they got their finger up their a$$

  109. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    CPZ…..not that long, and I’m an English Major.

  110. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    ok, well are you going to keep complaining or discuss the game and/or the team?

  111. By TheRealDon on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    @tom..i wonder the same thing

  112. By Frederick Jones on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    BLAME THE SCOUTS.

    BLAME ALL YOUR STINKING VICE PRESIDENTS.

    BLAME THE OWNERS.

    E V E R Y O N E knew we had one of the worst secondaries and offensive lines in the NFL last year. WHAT DID MANAGEMENT DO ABOUT IT?

    Quit blaming the players, and coaches. THIS YEAR belongs to MANAGEMENT.

  113. By PONDERTHEFUTURE on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    the OLINE did good this game fred.. time to criticize the secondary more.

  114. By Frederick Jones on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    PONDER looked great. But now he is a known element.

    Will the Vikings win a game this year???

    WE HAD BETTER FIND OUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE MANAGEMENT
    OF THE MINNESOTA VIKINGS! ! !

  115. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    CPZ, no problem, the team has many more problems than proper sentence structure, can you play corner??

  116. By Frederick Jones on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    CPZ,

    Nobody is going to read a post like yours! :) :) :)

    You must separate some words, use some punctuation, and etc.

  117. By kevin on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    THE VIKINGS DID AN OK JOB TODAY, BUT I BELIEVE JOE WEBB DESERVES SOME PLAYING TIME, I SURE HOPE JOE WEBB IS A FREE AGENT NEXT YEAR SO HE CAN GET A CHANCE TO PLAY ELSEWHERE..I WOULD SAY HE COULD PLAY IN THE CENTRAL DIVISION BUT THEY HAVE GOOD QUARTERBACK’S. C’MON MAN.

  118. By purplerainman on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    It’s simple.

    You can’t be 3rd in the NFL at rushing offense and 31st in passing offense and expect to win ball games when you have a defense that is 27th on passing offense.

    Any good football coach (Denny Green) would tell you. If you have a bad defense you need to have a better offense (e.g the Packers team you saw today.) They let AD run for a buck 75 and Ponder go over 200 in the air and still one with confidence. Case in point, their defense is somewhat like ours. They just punish teams with their offense.

  119. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    actually if you want to get all technical, sentence structure and punctuation was fine in that post. the only thing i didnt do was separate paragraphs. does an indentation every 10 lines really help you that much?

  120. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    You try to read it.

  121. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    See you next week.

  122. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    i did. and im not gonna sit here and argue about grammar lol.

  123. By Frederick Jones on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    PonderTheFuture,

    We still could not run the ball.

    Ponder scrambles as well as anyone I have ever seen since I started watching football. (When I started watching football, the ground COULD cause a fumble.)

    Ponder still had trouble completing 50% of his throws. How is that great offensive line play???

  124. By Frederick Jones on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    cpz,

    Jamming 600 words together like you did will not get read.

  125. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    We couldn’t run the ball? 175 yards by AP isnt running the ball?

  126. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    and to be honest I really don’t care who reads it and who doesn’t. if you don’t want to read it, don’t. I already made my points in plenty of shorter posts.

  127. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    people who spend more time complaning about posts, then posting about the game, are what cracks me up. if you really want to know, THOSE are the posts that no one is going to read.

  128. By Frederick Jones on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    @PonderTheFuture,

    The Vikings have had secondary and O Line problems since the 2010 season began.

    AT THIS POINT I WOULD BE HAPPY IF THEY SOLVED AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE PROBLEMS FOR 2012.

    I would even be happy to see them at least TRY ! :(

  129. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    –and complaining about the FORMAT of posts, at that. not even the post itself.

  130. By Ted Brown 23 on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Good job Ponder!! It sucks we lost but the future looks good at qb. Skol Ponder!!!

  131. By purplerainman on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I say we lock in the stadium now. They way I see it, we have a least a million and half fans. So rather than have people pay taxes on an ongoing basis. We allow the public the ability to buy 10 non refundable shares of the team at $30 a share and it includes 1 or two free tickets to the new stadium ( a sort of public option). Now that’s a football experience, that’s something they can pass down for generations. If Ramsey county can come up with $300M certainly there has to be a way.

  132. By Frederick Jones on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    cpz,

    Adrian had 2 or 3 long runs, the rest were 2 and 3 yards… it seemed.

    WE did not have a consistent offensive or defensive attack in the
    2ND HALF !

    If you are going to say we did…APPLY FOR A VICE PRESIDENT POSITION WITH THE MN VIKINGS ! :)

  133. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    If the state doesn’t care enough about their team to build them a stadium, the people of Minnesota should be ashamed of themselves. aww boo hoo I can’t pay an extra half cent sales tax to build my team a stadium they deserve. pathetic.

  134. By Titus on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I tried posting something a dozen times, but it would not go through– no bad words hidden — what is up with this site?

  135. By Titus on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Oh sure, that goes through.

  136. By purplerainman on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    That’s my point cpz – If state leaders don’t like it real fans should have an option at it. I would gladly buy my 10 shares, my brothers 10 shares, my dads ten shares and probably more.

  137. By Rye on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Ponder is the future. I am excited to see him play the rest of the year out and improve. Hopefully now the vikings can focus on the defense and fill a couple OL holes in the draft.

    The vikings should be able to plug most of their holes during the offseason through free agency and the draft.

    I really think the Vikes will be back on top next season.

  138. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    well for some reason the team seems to have a tendency to take the 2nd half off. Today, they didn’t. they played a tough, hard game. And what does whether or not we ran the ball have to do with the vice president position anyway? seems like someone is trying a little too hard to put anything they can on the front office.

  139. By Frederick Jones on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    WITH OUT A GOOD DRAFTING AND SCOUTING TEAM THIS MINNESOTA TEAM WILL BE THE NEW lions.

    Most seriously. ++++We have the front office for it.++++

    It may take 3 years of good drafts to catch up to where we need to be.

  140. By purplerainman on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    This is a quarterback league and I think we just found our quarterback.

  141. By Frederick Jones on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    We fired the coach. We got rid of the quarterback. We got rid of bad attitudes.

    WHEN WILL IT BECOME CLEAR TO THE FANS THAT IT IS THE
    MANAGEMENT THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THE MINNESOTA VIKINGS.

    DRAFTS.

    TRADES.

    FREE AGENCY.

  142. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I agree purple.

    And on another note, the overall effort from this team today was better than I have seen all season, which I think speaks volumes about what Ponder is to this team. We are definitly headed in the right direction. The holes will be filled over the next year or two, hopefully, and the team will be complete.

  143. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Titus, I had the same problem when trying to “copy and paste” War and Peace.

  144. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    The management is making bad decisions, right. Except for the fact that so many of their “bad decisions” that you complained about earlier in the year have actually played pretty well, and are improving. You can’t fix a whole team in one year. Give them a year or two to fill the DBs and this team will be a contender, mark my words.

  145. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Another problem with this site is that the curser does not move when you try to move it up/back/whatever with the arrows to correct something earlier in the post. Which makes it impossible to fix anything without backspacing all the way and retyping the whole thing. no thanks.

  146. By Frederick Jones on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    @PURPLERAINMAN,

    It’s a quarterback WORLD.

    Football is not that simple. And neither is the world.

    If it was we would all be winners.

  147. By Frederick Jones on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    cpz,

    The Vikings current record is 1-6.

  148. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    nova have you made one post concerning the game or team yet? you really have nothing better to do than sit on a football site and correct people for their grammar and make smart@$$ comments over and over and over. I feel sorry for you.

  149. By Frederick Jones on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I have to get off this site for the rest of the day.

    I just hate that simplistic attitude that the QB does it, or the coach does it.

    22 people play on the field at one time. It’s never one or two people that win or lose a game.

    I will fight to the death against that attitude.

  150. By Frederick Jones on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    ….I have to get off this site for the rest of the day.

    …..I just hate that simplistic attitude that the QB does it, or the coach does it.

    ….22 people play on the field at one time. It’s never one or two people that win or lose a game.

    ….I will fight to the death against that attitude.

  151. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    They are a much better team, or COULD be much better, than their record indicates. refer to my earlier point about taking 2nd halfs off. Without that, we are 4-3 maybe 5-2. And the point is, for the most part, the pieces are in place. Today, the effort was there too. The gelling will come with time. That just leaves the DB holes. Get those filled, and you have a winning team.

    If any of those parts are missing, yes, you will end up with a 1-6 record. The 2nd half effort was missing for most of the year. So was the gelling with McNabb. Those two issues are fixed now. As I said before, headed in the right direction. If you don’t believe that they are, then you’re probably one of those fans that will always complain, look at the glass half empty, never be happy with anything, and always expect the worse. There are way too many of that kind of fan out there. And with fans like that, do you really expect your team to win?

  152. By purplerainman on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    @Fred – far from what I was meaning my friend. Just saying that a good offense starts with a good quarterback and I think we’ve found one.

    On another note in regards to management: McNabb was a terrible choice for this team. So was Berrian. We should have freed up the money to pick-up a high-end corner or two (a veteran). We should have kept Rice at WR and we should have picked up Asomugha or Cromarte when we had the chance. So we can blame management for that.

    I disagree with the overall concept of blaming management though, its not management its our secondary. And that comes down to coaching and putting the best players on the field. You cannot tell me there isnt a player there that can produce more the Cedric or Allen? Frank Walker did a better job while Ced was out last year than Ced this year. We really struggle on the corners. When the corners break the safety has to step in but they can’t ask the safety to step in every time.

  153. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    If the team was half as pessimistic(sp), there would be no reason for them to even show up on Sundays. Heck, they probably wouldn’t even be in the NFL.

    Thank the lord thats not the case.

  154. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    CPZ….I have forgotten more football than you will ever learn. I have talked on this site for a long time. If you would like to talk football with me, please feel free. Just keep your comments short.

  155. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Rice left for more money. Honestly, I don’t want that kind of player on my team. I want players that want to play there because they love the team. I.E. Peterson. Hopefully the rest get weeded out.

    We lost a bidding war for him. If a player wants to play for a team, there shouldn’t be a bidding war. And if he doesn’t, he shouldn’t be there.

  156. By Shawn on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Did anyone see Fraziers presser … he sounds like he is coming to life. I got the impression BB might get cut this week. Someone tell me if Im reading into it too much?

  157. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Shawn….Pam Oliver (?) basically said he’s toast.

  158. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Lol, good one. Today you have done nothing but be an A hole. Doesn’t really matter to me how long you’ve posted on what site. I really don’t even know why I apologized to you in the first place. What are you, the blog’s grammar police?

    And uh, you have no idea how much football I know or have learned or will learn so why don’t you.. AGAIN.. keep your smart@$$ comments to yourself.

  159. By purplerainman on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I think Rice felt as though he was an elite receiver, and I feel like he was becoming one. He was on rookie salary and wanted a raise. Keeping him in Minnesota with Ponder at the helm and AD in the backfield would have made the most sense. Let’s be honest players only care about the fans to a certain extent. They care about their wallets and their egos for the most part. I don’t think for one minute Adrian (God Bless Him) wouldn’t have considered playing somewhere else had he not hit the 100M mark. The same thing with Joe Mauer of the Twins. The difference with those guys is that they have become staples here in Minnesota. When you keep your mouth shut and play hard you don’t have to ask for it, its given to you.

  160. By Shawn on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Really Nova ? I must of missed that … If you watch the presser though he just seems like hes growing into a head coach. Hes not dodging questions the same way. I mean in this presser he acknowledged problems didnt throw people under the bus and suggested he has a plan …

    It was refreshing …

    BTW … Ponder looked pretty good for his first game. Stats were a little weak but he made some nice plays

  161. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Yes, and they deserved it. If you haven’t proven yourself and you don’t keep your mouth shut, in my opinion, you don’t deserve it. When you make a public spectacle out of it by holding out (i.e. CJ) or when you sell yourself to the highest bidder (i.e. Sydney Rice), why would anyone want to pay you the big bucks to stay? And lets get real, regardless of who they play for their kids aren’t gonna be starving. Leaving for a couple more mils is childish and selfish in my opinion. Had he gone about it the right way, kept his mouth shut, taken what he was given, kept giving 100% every day, he would have gotten his in the end, and everyone would’ve been quite a bit happier in my opinion.

    Oh well, hope he’s having fun in Seattle with his extra couple mil LOL.

  162. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    CPZ….I just love spreading them around, when appropriate.

  163. By kevin on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    @BleedingPurpleinAlaska!, THE TUNA, YES HE IS OLD BUT HE IS BETTER THAN THE MANAGEMENT OF THE VIKINGS, AND CHUCKIE WOULD NOT JUST SIT ON THE SIDELINE LIKE A F@#K’N MUMMY, THE VIKINGS NEED TO GET WITH IT, IT IS 2011.
    TALK ABOUT WASTING MONEY, WHY NOT JOE WEBB, ITS LIKE MILLIONS NOT BEING USED. MAKE THAT BOY WORK FOR HIS MONEY..LOL..C’MON MAN :)

  164. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Shawn….Pam Oliver was talking about our fave, BB.

  165. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    congradulations on being a grade A jack@$$. but when you make them over and over about the same subject, they aren’t even funny anymore, so you kind of failed even at that.

    proud of being an A hole?

  166. By AlbinoSnowman on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I agree with the 3-4 business, we have good personnel. Allen could be jammed into being a 3-4 hand in the dirt guy, Ballard could do anything, obviously K-Wills would be a solid nose, Greenway and the Erin are pretty quick as OLB’s. I think we should put a 4-3 spin on it where we blitz more nickle than Greenway, but I think it could work out.

  167. By Shawn on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I heard the one when she asked why he was out and he said nice try you know i cant talk about that … but thats all i remember hearing on it

  168. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Anyway, I came to discuss football and make my points about today’s game, which I’ve done, so I’m out. Have fun being an A hole to someone else.

  169. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    CPZ….Are you new here?

  170. By Shawn on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    lol who was being an a-hole ?

  171. By Shawn on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I havent met an a-hole yet :)

  172. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    CPZ….hurry back, we appreciate the target practice.

  173. By kevin on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE A COMMENT ABOUT THAT BOY NAMED JOE WEBB, ITS REALLY PATHETIC I CAN’T GET A COMMENT, I REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE A COMMENT, AM I THE ONLY PERSON THAT BELIEVES HE SHOULD PLAY, NOT JUST QUARTERBACK, WHY NOT ANOTHER POSITION?? ANYBODY AGREE/DISAGREE??

    EVEN RAY CHARLES CAN SEE THAT HE IS ONE OF THE BETTER PLAYERS ON THE VIKINGS TEAM, I THOUGHT ONE OF THE OBJECTS TO PLAYING A GAME IS TO WIN, WHY IS HE ON THE SIDELINE? PONDER EVIDENTLY IS GOING TO BE THE FUTURE QB OF THE TEAM, WHY NOT GIVE UP JOE WEBB FOR SOME DRAFT PICKS?? OR PLAY HIM??

  174. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    nova, because I didn’t properly indent my paragraphs for him, even apologized, summarized it in a new post, but he wouldn’t let it go and felt it necessary to make comment after comment about how much it hurt his poor little eyes.

    And no, I’m not, I just post here occaisionally when I have something to talk about. But the reason I don’t spend a whole lot of time here is because of all the fair weather fans that are never happy with anything, always complaining, etc.

    Don’t worry, you probably won’t see me here for quite a while.

    Once again, I’m out.

  175. By Arrow86 on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I have no patience for Frazier keeping his job. He can’t coach with a lead. He can’t coach from behind. What does that leave us? Spielman is horrible at his post and should relieve himself of his duties. (Matt Millen) looks pretty good next to Spielman. Waste of time players who need to be cut. Berrian, he’s overpaid and can’t get separation from any defender. Asher Allen, the bomb today wasn’t his fault, but what does he do well? Our safeties are junk. They are not physical, and don’t react to the play fast enough to get turnovers. Trade Jared Allen, and A.P. we can get a ton of good draft picks, and they deserve to play on a winner. Other than that, everything is great!

  176. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    SEEYA!

  177. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    lol yeah nova you’re pretty cool you can talk s h i t to someone on an online blog. wonder how much of that you do in real life. wonder how much you got your a s s beat as a kid too, probably why you do this now to try an make up for it. sad thing is, you’re talking to screen names. but yeah, you’re the bada s s of this site. grats bro.

  178. By Arrow86 on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    @Kevin: You’re right on the money man! Any other team in football would see how that much athleticism (Webb) could be utilized. Our crew likes how he looks with a baseball cap on. I think he’d be a remarkable safety / corner. Otherwise make him a receiver and I think he’d be dynamite. Develop a wing back position for him. Be creative, innovative, and unpredictable. But our “Dungy disciple” wouldn’t want to do anything flashy. I bet Tony Dungy hates having his name mentioned in the same sentence as Frazier as a coach.

  179. By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    or maybe life as a canadian just sucks that bad that you have to take it out on other people. but not real people, online people. hah.

  180. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    CPZ…..That’s what I like about me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  181. By Arrow86 on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Pop Warner clubs have better websites with in-game statistics and posts. This site blows. I went to check stats and it is all for the season, and doesn’t have today’s stats updated yet. Geez! It’s always a day late, and a dime too much paid…

  182. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Rock, I think we have found “CheeseHeadUnite”.

  183. By Shawn on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    That sucks Nova … I would of enjoyed reading war and peace.

  184. By Shawn on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    How can anyone get mad at Nova … hes comic relief on here. CPZ maybe PMS

  185. By kevin on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    @Arrow86, RIGHT ON MAN, IM GLAD U SAW WHAT I SAW, MAYBE WE CAN GET HIRED AND RUN THE VIKINGS. BECAUSE THAT’S ALL THEY NEED IS SOME UNPREDICTABILITY..RIGHT ON
    ARROW86 UNPREDICTABLE VIKING FAN…

  186. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    CPZ, if you have any of my blogs over the last couple of years, then you would know that I have spent a lot of time in Bermuda and Central America. I am indeed fortunate. As for your comments on life in Canada “sucking”, that just tells me that you are a moron.

  187. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    But not just your “regular” moron. You are special.

  188. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Shawn, I’ll mail you the “Readers Digest Condensed Edition”. I’ll even autograph it !!!!

  189. By Frederick Jones on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    cpz, purplerainman,

    Sorry if I hurt someone’s feelings

    We are all upset on this blog. The Vikings are 1-6.

  190. By 61viking on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Harvin needs to talk the Panthers Steve Smith. He never leaves a game unless his leg is broken. ” I have a hang nail, I better sit out.”

  191. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    The ” NOVA SCOTIA VIKE LIMITED EDITION OF “WAR AND PEACE” , only 29.95$ but, if you order in the next 10 minutes….

  192. By Frederick Jones on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    @Kevin,

    Relax I am a Joe Webb fan and so is my brother.

    I do think Ponder played a great game, he just does not
    have the supporting cast Rodgers does.

    Rodgers has time to write a book waiting for people to get open.
    I question whether he is better than Ponder.

    You cannot measure how much a great team means to a player. I believe that Adrian Peterson would dominate the NFL if he was on an average NFL team.

  193. By Frederick Jones on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Now rating the Vikings management….

    Rate the following from 0-10, with 0 being horrible, and 10 being
    Super Bowl Quality:

    Scouts::::: 1
    Vice Presidents::::0
    Owners::::1
    Coaching::::5

  194. By Frederick Jones on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Vikings fans,

    Let’s try not to pick on each other…

    Pick on the Scouts, Vice Presidents, and the Owners.

    They are the cause of our pain.

  195. By Frederick Jones on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I’m waiting for someone to identify the name of an administrator, who has proven himself guilty of not selecting defensive backs and offensive linemen in the draft, via trades, or through free agency.

    (2 offensive linemen selected in last 5 years of the draft!)^ :(

  196. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    If you order in the next ten minutes, you will not only receive an autographed copy of the NOVA SCOTIA VIKE LIMITED EDITION OF “WAR AND PEACE”, but, as an added bonus we will include CPZ’s famous………By cpz
    I think this game showed the offensive line is not as bad as everyone keeps saying they are. Sure there may be a hole or two to fill, but the main weakness is pass defense. Still no excuse for not stopping them on all those runs on the last drive and get the ball back for Ponder. Frazier had to have them punt it, no choice. 4th and 10 conversion rate is less then 20% and if they don’t convert it, timeouts or not, game was over. They’d have already been in FG range, two possession game, no chance. Our best and only chance was to punt it and get a stop, which the defense had been doing of late up to that point. Especially knowing it was going to be all runs, they should’ve been able to get it done. But honestly I feel if the pass defense was better that would allow our run defense to get back to where it used to be. And its still not all that bad, they just struck out in a big spot today. Nothing wrong with Frazier, he will become a better coach over the years. Takes all new coaches time to improve. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with Ponder either. Sure he made a couple mistakes that rookie is going to make, but this was his first start, and with all the good things he did, I think he is going to be our franchise quarterback and we will be successful with him for a long time to come. He will only get better, and he seems to have the intangibles that a QB needs to be able to become successful in the NFL. Great feel for pressure, good clock in his head as far as getting the ball out, generally makes good decisions, not afraid to throw it away, not afraid to run but at the same time, not too eager to run as so many young QBs are. I agree with whoever said this loss was on the D. And I do believe our front 4 and LBs are fine. The one big hole to fill is the defensive backfield, once that is done, and Ponder has some time (i.e. the rest of this season) to grow and improve, we will have a complete team. I like to think big, but even being completely realistic, I see playoffs next year and a good run, and legitimate Super Bowl contenders within 3 years. Most of the pieces are in place. Get those DBs fixed and we will have a good team for a long, long time to come. Jared Allen still young, AP still young, Greenway still young, Robison is looking good and hes young, this team will be together for quite a while. Kevin Williams is getting up there so that will be a spot to fill when he finally calls it quits but for this team is headed in the right direction now, win or lose today. I hate waiting as much as the next fan, I really thought this would be a good year, but even accepting the reality of the situation I think that all true Vikings fans have a lot to look forward to. Also, I think Jenkins and Aromashadu are showing they are much more capable than some thought prior to the season. It was nice to see guys help Ponder out by making some nice catches today, but the part about him that I was most impressed to see was his decision making. Sure he had the two interceptions, which I might add were by one of the all time greats at DB, but for a rookie making his first start, his knowledge of the game, decision making and all the other intangibles that great QBs require really impressed me. We are headed in the right direction folks. I hate rebuilding years too but I am honestly much happier than I ever thought I could be after a loss to GB. They have a very very bright future. Oh and I do believe that sooner or later Rodgers and the Packers will get knocked on their @$$e$, they are far from invincible, and I can’t wait for that to happen. So all fans, keep your heads up, keep rooting, keep watching Ponder and the team grow. I think the franchise took a huge step today by starting him, and I couldn’t have been happier with what I saw. GO VIKES!!

  197. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Remember, only 6 orders per household !!!!!!

  198. By Tom on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    @ Shawn
    That does sound like what he is going to do or something remotely close to it. Especially when he keep saying “we are going to talk about more this week.” Now that somewhat makes you wonder, huh.

  199. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Just remember, we are not responsible for eye damage.

  200. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Is this pathetic, or what………By cpz on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply
    Another problem with this site is that the curser does not move when you try to move it up/back/whatever with the arrows to correct something earlier in the post. Which makes it impossible to fix anything without backspacing all the way and retyping the whole thing. no thanks…….Don’t you hate that when it happens?…..Call your local service provider….

  201. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Or just keep F’ing whining.

  202. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    OH MY GOD !!!!!!!!!!!!!DON’T BACKSPACE ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  203. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    CPZ…Come on down south with me,let’s see you on the business end of a Marlin, no “backspacing” there F@g!

  204. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Oh, sorry, I meant “gay man”. You will have to excuse me, I’m still trying to get used to the PC for “coc&sucker”.

  205. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    That’s what you get when you insult my country……..

    or maybe life as a canadian just sucks that bad that you have to take it out on other people. but not real people, online people. hah. As$hole.

  206. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    Come back anytime for a battle of “wits”. Seeing that your’s are in short supply, I would recommend that you bring your goat.

  207. By VA Vike Fan on Oct 23, 2011 | Reply

    I hate when ppl suggest to trade AP and/or Jared Allen for draft picks. What kind of sense does that make? Trade proven superstar players for unproven rookies that may or may not be busts??? Some of the ppl up here are just as clueless as the front office they complain about!

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