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Frazier Wants D-Line, O-Line To Be More Physical

Posted by Mike Wobschall on October 18, 2011 – 10:50 am

The Vikings entered last Sunday’s matchup with the Chicago Bears ranked 3rd in rushing and 5th in rushing defense. But during Sunday night’s game, it was the Bears who looked better in both of those phases of the game.

The Bears outgained the Vikings on the ground 119 to 53, they averaged nearly 2.0 yards more per play than the Vikings and Chicago’s pass rush registered 5 sacks while the Vikings got to Jay Cutler just once. It was a surprising development to witness because the Vikings in recent seasons have been a physical group on the line of scrimmage, both defensively and offensively.

Vikings Head Coach Leslie Frazier identified this as a concern during his Monday press conference.

“When I looked at the tape, the biggest thing was we did not play the physical football game that we are accustomed to playing up front on our defensive line and our offensive line,” Frazier said. “They (Chicago) didn’t do a whole lot of things differently than what they did against Detroit. We did not physically take over the line of scrimmage like we are capable of doing and like we have done on other occasions.

“For them to run the ball as effectively as they did, for that quarterback to stand there and take time in the pocket and for their defensive line to stuff our run game the way they did, they’re not the only team that plays eight-man fronts against us, but for us to not get any movement against their defensive line, that’s unacceptable and we have to get it fixed.”


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209 Responses to “Frazier Wants D-Line, O-Line To Be More Physical”

  1. By ozzinator on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    “lots of football left”……Ha ha haha aha , Nova!

  2. By GM on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

  3. By GM on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    …what about the coaches?

  4. By VegasVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    That’s what happens when you continue to defend players like McN and BB. Then ALL players think they can relax with no concern of losing their jobs. How about them apples!!

  5. By Rogerthevikefan on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Love and Fusco are more physical so play them. With coaching Fusco could beat out Sully for the job. Love should get a look at LT or RT.

  6. By Rogerthevikefan on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Watch the USC Notre Dame. Then decide about LT Matt Kalil or WR Michael Floyd.

  7. By Joben on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I agree rogerthevikefan, the worst that could happen is they slow down the d linemen….

  8. By Mike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Frazier is to soft players play like their coach look at the jets and patriots. As long as Frazier continue to not single out a player then he’ll continue to play bad yes the bears were successful running and passing on us but I saw players like Jared Allen and K. Williams face double teams the whole night so what wad Ayodel and Robison doing if they were beating their man Cutler should’ve been sacked at least four times, Frazier needs to start singling out players who aren’t taking advantage of being on the field bench a couple player then you’ll see if the rest won’t play harder. I saw C. Griffin who’s been in the league for 5+ seasons get abused by every receiver who went on his side but C. Cook who’s only in his second season held his own now if that was only a one game issue I would give him a chance but he’s been getting beat in every game an aggressive coach would’ve benched him for playing so bad. As long as Frazier continue to act soft and scared to pull a player out that player is going to cause us the game and soon players will quit on the team like last season.

  9. By VegasVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Ponder to start!!!!

  10. By Mike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    The previous starters will remain starters as much as I want sully and johnson out of the line up I have to accept the fact that coach Frazier won’t bench anyone unless they have a serious injury. Itd not like were just finding out Sully isn’t good we been knew that he was just used as a cover up for releasing Matt Birk so they wouldn’t have to pay him

  11. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Start Love for Johnson. How can it can any worse than just letting the D line walk right past you?

  12. By VegasVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    NFL Network announced Ponder will start

  13. By Justin F on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Did the Vikings do any trading? Or are they not bothering?

  14. By Beeverchoan on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Frazier needs to be tossed

  15. By GM on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Carson Palmer going to Raiders

  16. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    PONDER!!!!!!!!!! FINALLY!!!! 5 SUPERBOWLS IN THE NEXT 17 YEARS!!

  17. By The Truth on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    WIll Blackmon 2012 NFL Draft please!

  18. By The Truth on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Justin*

  19. By vikeforever on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Dear Coach Frazier,

    I could not agree with you more, the offensive line needs to give you more but please start Ponder maybe his style will complement the offensive line more than his current starter….PONDER NOW !!!

  20. By teamkillin on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    They are starting Ponder.

  21. By Mike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    @ VegasVikes

    I haven’t heard any new about Ponder starting yet

  22. By Austin on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    DRAFT JUSTIN BLACKMON PLEASE!

  23. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8233da52/article/vikings-name-rookie-ponder-starting-qb-amid-15-season

  24. By Tom on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    About time! He should have been the starter at week one!

  25. By Mike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Oh that’s good news I hope its true because I can’t put up with another bad decision by Mcnabb

    why don’t the Vikings try to trade for an O line, Safety or a DT to help Williams because Ayodell is not working

  26. By Animal26 on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    woot woot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the Ponder era can begin and we can see what the kid can do.

  27. By VegasVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Is Mike Mike Wobbs?

  28. By Mike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    No I wonder where Mike Wobbs is he’s usually on here

  29. By VegasVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I think he may have went into hiding, it’s been brutal on here lately! Glad to hear you are not him cause if you were and didn’t know….lol

  30. By GM on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Positive momentum!

    Ponder start…check

    Tag cloud removal…..?

    New stadium…..d@mn well better!!

  31. By Mike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Oh yeah I don’t know why we have to wait until tomorrow to find out who’s starting theirs no excuses for why Ponder isn’t starting, Frazier can’t say Mcnabb gives us the best chance of winning because we haven’t won any game off of the hands of Mctrash

  32. By vikeforever on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I just got the news from NFL.com Jason Lacafora reports that Ponder will start and Frazier has notified McNabb of this. Oh Happy Day !!!

  33. By Mike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Finally and the O line needs to step there game up or the rotten seeds need to go because I don’t want to see Matthews hitting Ponder

  34. By DOC95 on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    matt kalil with the vikes top pick, trade back in and take floyd mid round if he drops if not..grab nick toon out of wis…… if nothing like this then grab a talented DB or LB which are heavy in this draft

  35. By Rogerthevikefan on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Michael Floyd is better than Justin Blackmon and Alshon Jeffery. If not for his DUI(s) he would be the first WR off the board. Floyd is 6’3 with good speed and get good seperation he also attacks the ball. Blackmon is good but only 6’1 but attacks and has better Qb play which inflates his numbers. Jeffery is a big 6’4 but he continues to put on weight almost 230 and lacks burning speed. Could be a great TE. Vikings need a big body they can toss it up to. Michael Floyd is that guy. Plus would allow the Vikes to trade back and get more decent picks.

  36. By Rogerthevikefan on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Michael Floyd is better than Justin Blackmon and Alshon Jeffery. If not for his DUI(s) he would be the first WR off the board. Floyd is 6’3 with good speed and get good seperation he also attacks the ball. Blackmon is good but only 6’1 but attacks the ball and has better Qb play which inflates his numbers. Jeffery is a big 6’4 but he continues to put on weight almost 230 and lacks burning speed. Could be a great TE. Vikings need a big body they can toss it up to. Michael Floyd is that guy. Plus would allow the Vikes to trade back and get more decent picks.

  37. By VegasVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Now pull Berrian and put some of the second string O line in. This could be a shocker to green bay, they are pretty big headed right now and over confident. Even McCathy is stating they will be 7-0. STAKE EM!!

  38. By BIG DUKE 6 on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    REALLY YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME YOU JUST NOW WANT THEM TO GET PHYSICAL YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THEM FROM TRAINING CAMP LA DI DA JUST WAKING UP U S*CK BENCH McNOTHIN NOW U SAW HE S*CKS

  39. By Rogerthevikefan on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Plus Blackmon also has a DUI which made him miss a game. So Floyd and Blackmon have had similar problems. Sorry about double post.

  40. By Mike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I told everyone Frazier is a confused coach our O line was terrible since preseason but he ignored the problem our secondary Griffin was getting burned since preseason but yet he’s still starting for what reason I don’t know, our SS were so bad they kept rotating in a battle between two suck players neither one is still the true starter but when safeties were available he chose not to sign any because he liked what he saw out of the two non factors, so at the end of everything Frazier has been wrong on all of his evaluations and decision making.

  41. By Shawn on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    PONDER STARTS = VIKIING WIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  42. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    This just in: “Frazier wants throws to be to receivers, not blades of grass”, who knew? All this time….

  43. By TheRealDon on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Start Ponder…When Winfield is healthy start him and cook..

  44. By Miracle on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Ponder is starting! Best decision made all year!!!!!

  45. By Rogerthevikefan on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    With Sully having a concussion Berger will start at center so they should have Fusco there as a back up. Fusco is a angry player he likes hurting those who threaten his QB. Watch the pre season when some one beat him he took them out. People will keep on beating Johnson because he just is not good. The only reason he looked decent is because Payton Manning gets rid of the ball incredible fast.

  46. By Rogerthevikefan on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    If the Vikings can swing getting both Matt Kalil and Michael Floyd it would be one of the great drafts the Vikings have ever had.

  47. By rye on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Frazier has renewed some of my faith in him. It’s all over the news he decided to start Ponder!

    I still think Frazier is going to be a good coach. Fans need to give him time. Many good coaches had bad first years. A coach really needs 2-3 years to show what they can do.

  48. By rye on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Wouldn’t it be awesome if Ponder can come out vs Green Bay and win? I know it’s a long shot, but that would be absolutely awesome.

  49. By Woodboat on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    @ Mike….

    You called out Robison and Ayodel for not getting to Cutler. I don’t bl ame them, I bl ame Pagac. When #23 be at us deep for that first touchdown, there were only 2 guys running patterns. TWO!!! Lets see, let me do the math…. 2 WRs, 1 QB… hmm… that leaves…. EIGHT guys pa ss protecting. SO, we have 4 DBs that can’t keep track of 2 WRs, and we are worried about 4 D Linemen that can’t get through 8 pa ss protecting?

    I know that was just one play, but I called the Bears strategy days before the game. Keep in extra guys to pa ss protect until their WRs can get behind our LBs then pick our cru ddy DBs apart. On defense, load up the box to stop AP and rush our “QB”. Put pressure on McNabb and he’ll fold like a cheap suit. Easy victory by any decent tackling team in the league against the Vikes as long as Dirt ball Donovan is under center.

    If Frazier keeps McNabb in this week, and I’d bet it’s a 50/50 sh ot that it happens, it’s going to be worse. That 3-4 defense is going to be more than our O Line can handle. Less AP and more Ponder/Harvin/Jenkins is the only way we win this weekend. If we feature AP, they won’t respect the pa ss and he won’t gain 50 yards.

  50. By Woodboat on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I don’t think Harbuagh needs 2-3 years to show what he can do…

  51. By rye on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Woodboat,

    For example, bill belichick was terrible his first few years. He was 6-10, 7-9, 7-9. Just think if he would have been fired in his first 3 years.

    Harbaugh hasn’t done anything yet. he’s won a few games. Season is early.

    The league is loaded with examples of great coaches who were terrible there first year or two.

  52. By Beeverchoan on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    rye your a toad, Frazier is awful

  53. By rye on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Oh and woodboat, the belichick example thosw first three years were with clevland. His first year as patriots head coach, he went 5-11.

  54. By rye on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Beeverchoan, replacing the coaching staff would only create more problems. If you do it, you can kiss next year goodbye too.

    Fact is, it’s rare to keep replacing yoru coaching staff and have success.

    Even detroit finally figured it out.

  55. By rye on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    By woodboat and beeverchoans standards, the vikings should have fired bud grant after he went 1-4 his first year coaching.

  56. By scjohnson541 on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    now protect ponder and have a game plan to fit our teams talent..not the expected

  57. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    It is so typical of this blog that we have to get the news of Ponder starting from other sources such as the NFL Network or NFL.com, rather than the Minnesota Viking’s own homepage. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Wobschall is off harassing Jared Allen, trying to “dig deeper” into the ongoing saga of the 100th sack……Wednesday’s topic….Breaking down Allen’s sacks, grass vs turf, night vs day, 1st quarter vs 3rd quarter, Sundays vs Mondays, less filling vs tastes great, blah, blah, blah……..

  58. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Rye: It’s not just the record that people are concerned about, it’s just the way in which he has handled the season so far that’s concerning. Do all coaches make perfect decisions their first year? Obviously not, but some of them seemed blindingly obvious which I think put some doubt in our minds.

  59. By Brad on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Just being curious but why is it that you can hear or see updated news about this team a heck of a lot faster on different sites or possibly on the news but it takes a day or so for them to put it up on vikings.com? I am so glad that they are putting Ponder in now. I also think that would be unbelievably great if Ponder the and co comes out with a win against GB.

  60. By Brad on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Nova I agree with you about that, it’s pretty sad, huh?

  61. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Allen just drops him one of these days with a left hook and reminds him that there are other stories out there.

  62. By rye on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Twoodsnvikes, I completely understand. I think Fraziers biggest mistake was trusting Mcnabb and Berrian. I am going to see how the rest of the season plays out. I think Frazier will do ok and has learned a valuable lesson.

    I was trying to make a point to some of the negative people on here about coaches. Even Tony Dungy went 6-10 his first year coaching.

  63. By Matthias on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    How about we use another O-line man like Fusco or Love instead of a TE? ( I know we are average at best )

  64. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Rye: Agreed, hopefully the rest of the season won’t be as ugly and he’ll play players that can play and not ones who are his best buddies.

  65. By Matthias on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Maybe we should switch between the TE-set and some extra lineman, to establish a better running game, during the quaterbreacks or even use a time out to confuse the “enemy”.

  66. By VegasVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I’m surprised they announced it, I would have thought they would have kept it under wraps so GB did not prepare for a young, agile QB. Let them keep thinking they would be up against McGrunt, like shooting fish in a barrel.

  67. By Matthias on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    stupid auto correct

    quaterbreacks = quarters

  68. By Matt on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    FIRE CHILDRESS

  69. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    ZIGI………Wobschall, you got scooped by every major news service in the United States, Canada, Mexico and Europe, including the Vatican City on the Ponder story!!…..Wobschall..(sporting a black eye)….”.But Mr. Wilf, did you know that Jared Allen has gotten all of his sacks on days with a “Y” in them”?????!!!!!!!

  70. By Matthias on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Start Mistral Reymond at safety and Brandon Burton at cornerback to see what they are able to do. Also sign Emmanuel Arceneaux and let Devin Aromashodu play more often.

  71. By govikes on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Get kalil and alshon jeffrey bulld around AP and Ponder! Im guessing if we trade up to top 20 alshon will still be there

  72. By VegasVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I can’t believe we let Carson Palmer get away from us. I figured for sure he would be our starter next year

  73. By Dirty Nasty Legs on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Draft nothing but O-line and D-backs, we have some decent young receivers and if the o-line give the QB some time the receivers can get open. Get rid of berrian. Maybe pick up a WR in free agency.

  74. By Brad on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I wonder if Mr. Wilf had something to do with Ponder becoming the starting QB? What do you people think?

  75. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Brad, it wouldn’t surprise me at all.

  76. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Guarantee it, I’m sure he called down and said “yeah i’ve seen enough, start the kid, b&tch”

  77. By TheRealDon on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Lets get the rookie TE involved..If you ask me he will be a star in this league..He can stretch the field

  78. By mr smiff on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I understand Ponder will start on Sunday. Maybe Frazier was trying to buck the trend;
    2010:
    Vikes beat the Cards at home.
    Then they fall apart against the Bears in Chicago.
    Then they get blown out by the P3ckers at home.
    The coach gets fired the next day.

    2011:
    Vikes beat the Cards at home.
    Then they fall apart against the Bears in Chicago.
    ??????????????????
    ??????????????????

  79. By ozzinator on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    “Sporting a black eye”, Bwwaaa ha ha ha aha hah ha.
    Nova, what the h3ll??! Ha ha ahah aha hah
    I’m tellin’ ya , you’re nuts man. Hee hee

  80. By Jacob on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    at this point i can see our receiver’s stepping up (aromashodu, jenkins, even camarillo, and of course harvin.) what we need is a center in the first round, WR in maybe the second, and a DB in the third.

  81. By ozzinator on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Wobschall is off harassing Jared Allen, trying to “dig deeper” into the ongoing saga of the 100th sack……Wednesday’s topic….Breaking down Allen’s sacks, grass vs turf, night vs day, 1st quarter vs 3rd quarter, Sundays vs Mondays, less filling vs tastes great, blah, blah, blah……
    Ha ha ha hah ahaha aha ahahah , I can’t take it!

  82. By Jeffbleedspurple on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    SKOL Vikings! I’m excited for the young man, I look forward to the Vikings/Packers match up at home every year, but this one is going to be special, I really hope the O-line gives that kid the best protection they can, he will do fine, Congradulations to Ponder! Go get em Ponder!

  83. By Mike B. on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    It’s nice to hear the NFL.com annouce that Ponder is going to start and McNabb has been informed. Will still wait for Frazier to annouce it tomorrow during his presser. I didn’t see any move by the draft deadline. So I am assuming that McNabb will be mentoring Ponder. Sounds good for the team. Let’s go for a win in the Metrodome. Barrroooohhh

  84. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    McNabb the “mentor”……..” OK Chr1stian, throw it just like I do, only 4 feet higher…..By the way, we have to get you some new suits”.

  85. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    “McMentor”.

  86. By minnysports on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Lets not get ahead of our selves fellows. Sure it’s great Ponder is starting, but if he does not get some time it could be another long game for us. Some make it sound like were going to the Super Bowl now. There needs to be alot of improvement all around, this is a good start though. I just hope we come back on Monday with positive things to say. I have totally agreed that this should of happened sooner. All i can say is “LETS GIVE THE PACK THERE FIRST LOSS” GOOOOOOOOOO VIKES!

  87. By minnysports on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    IF WE BEAT THE BEST, PIZZ ON THE REST!

  88. By Titus on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Nova, I can add nothing — you said it all. Maybe if Wobbie stopped waking players from their naps we would win a game. I mean, seriously, do you think you will find out about a sack total by sitting on a player’s bed in a hotel room? I dare say there is no journalistic value on vikings.com — none. But we have the most blogging activity of any NFL site that I have visited- by far. Fans make this site.

  89. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I hear you Titus, the fans on this site are THE BEST. After all, they put up with me. If it wasn’t for your winters, I would seriously consider moving there…… Have you heard anything about Jared Allen taking out a restraining order on Wobschall?

  90. By ak on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    draft nick toon

  91. By Titus on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Yes, fans are what make this site– certainly not the accurate, timely, and creative news stories. If you do find an article on time here, it is mostly quoted verbatim from other sources.

  92. By Mike B. on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I have to agree many sports commentators put out the opinions in this blog as the pulse of Vikings Fans.

  93. By Titus on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Kevin Williams says Pat Williams can still play and should return to football. Where is that on vikings.com? At least its better than hearing a breakdown of a technical analysis between real sacks and sacks that count toward 100– if I read that one more time, I will enter myself into kindergarten.

  94. By Mike B. on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I am really suprised with the issues about the DL that they don’t get ask Pat to come back. I don’t see him playing 4 downs, but he definately would be effective on running downs. They can rotate the other guys with him. Pat would be happy , Kevin would be happy, and fans would be happy.

  95. By Titus on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Yeah, bring back Pat. With Ponder in, we might win a few now. We might even get into the playoffs. Hee hee hee. I need to eat something, am getting lightheaded.

  96. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Get your “My Little Pony” lunchbox ready Titus, it’s coming !

  97. By CanadianVF on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Wow, kudos to Brown the general manager in Cincinatti, two first round picks for Palmer. I think he played that poker hand magnificently. Looks like the Bengals future is getting brighter.

  98. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Knowing the Bengals, they will draft the first two guys who are out on parole.

  99. By Titus on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Nova, make sure Sonja has a Ms Kitty backpack to carry her treats.

  100. By CanadianVF on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Not so sure that the game we had Sunday night is because of poor talent at certain positions. Looked to me like a lack of effort by the team or one team who was totally prepared for us and we were not prepared for anything. Hard to believe that the oddsmakers felt that was going to be a tight game. When you start seeing a lack of effort then the problem is the coaches are loosing the room and players are starting to tune them out. I honestly have never seen so many wide open recievers in my life in one game. Is that a lack of talent or a poor defensive scheme. I asked after the Detroit game why Megatron one of the best wide recievers in the game runs into the endzone, no one covering him, stops at spot in the end zone and Stafford throws it to him for the td. You would think a double team would be in order, but I guess not.

  101. By PONDERTHEFUTURE on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    We should draft Floyd from ND, hes a beast!

  102. By CanadianVF on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I definitely think we have to draft a studd wide reciever in the first round who can stretch the field. We have got to replace Sidney Rice. The kid who is at Oklahoma has an awfull lot of receptions, why is he not considered one of the top recieving prospects.

  103. By Mike B. on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I think that the Bears have been looking at what we have done badly all season and exploited that. They knew this game would be important for us to make a comeback and they intended to put us down. This way to keep momentum from letting us back in contention and possibly passing them in the standings. They need a win to get back to 500 and not lose their ability to make the playoffs.

  104. By Woodboat on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    @ rye…

    Sorry it took so long to make you look foolish, but I have a job to go to :)

    “By woodboats standards, we should have fired Bud Grant after he went 1-4.”

    You’ll have to help me out here. Did Bud Grant act as coordinator for 2 years before taking the head coaching job? If so, was he as big a failure as coordinator as Frazier was? Was he unable to make adjustments on game day like Les has been unable to do for the last 2+ years?

    I base my judgement not on this years record, friend. I didn’t expect them to do well before the season even started. I thought Frazier was a bust at DC at the end of his first year and he hasn’t done anything to change my opinion. Stopping the run is all well and good, but this is a passing league. Our division, while it used to be a running div, is now a pa ssing division with Rodgers, Stafford, and Cutler slinging it all over the yard. Who cares if you can hold them to 2 yards per carry when you can’t hold them under 7 yards per pa ss attempt?

    I’m not calling for Frazier to be fired. Maybe he’s just undergoing 3 years of growing pains. I am, however, PREDICTING that he isn’t going to make it.

  105. By Woodboat on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Wow… went back and read more…

    “Harbaugh hasn’t done anything… he’s just won a few games…”

    You ARE a toad, dude. Harbaugh has that team PLAYING. This is the virtually the same team that Singletary had last year, and he has them kicking @$$. He is a first year coach with no preseason and a questionable QB.

    I’m not saying that every coach should have his success. My earlier comment about him not needing 2-3 years to attain success was little tongue in cheek… but don’t disrespect what he has done for that franchise, dude. They are contenders NOW, beating good teams NOW.

  106. By PONDERTHEFUTURE on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    @Woodboat Bud Grant went 3-8-3 thats a winning percentage of .273. Cannot be so quick to judge a coach after 6 games into the regular season, but does anyone not remember the year the Mike Tice lead vikings that went 6-0 in the first six, and ended up not making the playoffs? you can’t judge based off short term success/failures.

    Its all about the long term effect :)

  107. By CanadianVF on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Ryan Broyles, Big 12 offensiive player of the week. 13 receptions for 217 yards also became the alltime NCAA recieving leader. Had 301 all purpose yards in the game. Oklahoma Sooners. I would love to see him in purple and gold and I do not think he has a drinking problem. Another plus.

  108. By PONDERTHEFUTURE on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    sorry, meant to say that Bud Grants record for his first year as vikings head coach was that, but still my point stands.

  109. By Woodboat on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    That being said…

    I’m very excited to hear that Ponder will be starting this sunday. Do I expect him to score his first victory… no. Some of you are WAY too optimistic if you think this is going to turn this team around. It SHOULD give them a spark, but we have way too many other deficiencies for this to get us on the winning side of .500 this season.

    I’m just going to be happy watching the kid build his on-field relationships with Rudolph and Harvin. Leave BB off the field, coach… by the time the kid gets settled in, BB will be too old to be of use (if he is of use now…) Its going to be a good show, and I’m excited for sunday. Give them dirty Packers a game, kid!

  110. By VegasVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I think WOBBL has been designing the new layout of the website

  111. By Woodboat on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I must not be typing this correctly….

    @Ponderthefuture….

    I am NOT basing my opinion of Coach Fraziers ability solely on what has transpired this year. His coachin career actually started last season when he went 3-3. Really, he’s 4-8… much better than 1-5.

    I am basing my opinion of coach Frazier by what I’ve been watching EVERY GAME since he’s been with the Vikes… both as DC and as Head Coach. He had control of the defense for 2+ years… and they stink vs. the p@ss and have since he took over for Tomlin. He continues to show a lack of ability to make adjustments on game day. This is a THREE year observation, not just this season.

  112. By Woodboat on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    @VegasVike… If he is designing a new layout, what kind of odds are you giving that the name CHILDRESS is still prominantly displayed in the “tags” section after he’s done? ;)

  113. By Woodboat on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    @Titus…. I’m with you 100%. Bring back Pat. He’d have to sit out 4 games, but what the heck?

    @CanadianVF… No, no WR in the first round. If we had an OLine, our WR corps would get it done. Keep our QB clean and this team will roll offensively. Grab the best O-Lineman available would be my take. Doesn’t matter the position… they all need to be upgraded (sorry Hutch, but you are slowing down….)

    My personal favorite screenshot for the Bears game. They showed a screen which noted the Vikes injuries… Sullivan, concussion, out (sucks… get better, dude)… Sanford, concussion, out (likewise… good luck)… Loadholt, (injury), questionable. All I could think was “Questionable? I could have told you that before the game started….” :)

  114. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    If he is designing a new layout, do you think he would let me be a “guest columnist” once a week?

  115. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I could call it the “Canadian Content Corner”.

  116. By CanadianVF on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I guess I always thought that you could still get very good O linemen in the 2nd or 3rd round. They were saying that most of the starting O linemen were taken in the first round for the Miami Dophins the other night and it doesn’t seem to be helping them much. I guess I always thought that the great talents go early and linemen especially O line go later, not that they aren’t important too.

  117. By GM on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    4 of the 5 Miami starters are first rounders

  118. By Woodboat on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I LIKE it it Nova!!!!

    @CVF… yeah, you are probably right. I’d rather they traded down to ama ss more picks and take mulitiple O-Linemen late in the first/ early second then.

    In the spirit of “giving guys a chance”, I haven’t given up on Jenkins and Aromashodu to be solid WRs for this club. We have a long standing tradition of having a Probowl WR on board (AC, Carter, Moss, Rice….), but we can get by with “lunchpail” guys if we have AP and a decent line. Heck, Hines Ward has never been a top flight wideout as far as numbers/popularity are concerned… I’d LOVE to have a young Hines Ward on this team!!! :p

  119. By CanadianVF on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    @ Woodboat, as usual you are right on about Frazier, I have really had the impression this year that we are getting out coached most games and if we are then it gets discouraging for the players.

  120. By Woodboat on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    4 out of 5 Miami starters are first rounders… playing for a coach that everyone knows is going to get the axe at the end of the season.

    Troy Williamson was a first rounder, too. :p

    The draft follows simple supply/demand principles. There are a LOAD of teams with bad O-Lines… linemen are going to go higher than they really should, but if you want them… well, you gotta pay the going price, worth it or not.

    The best WR in history is useless if his QB is flat on his back.

  121. By Titus on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    O Line and D Line need to be more physical. Wow, I think I could learn something here.

  122. By purplerainman on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Congrats to CP on the starting job! Looking forward to watching you help build a future dynasty!

  123. By CanadianVF on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    With Harvin and I am really getting excited about Rudolph, he seems to have great hands, we have enough people to catch the ball.

  124. By Woodboat on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Thanks, CVF. I hadn’t really thought about it, but you make a good point about discouraging the players. If we “casual observers” can see it, I have to believe that the guys that are getting their brains beat in and watch the film over and over have seen it as well.

    Hopefully they will rally around the new QB. He seems to have the charisma for the task. If they can keep their heads up and Frazier figures out what he and his staff are doing wrong, maybe we can whomp some tail by the end of the season ala the 2010 Lions.

  125. By MJH on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Kevin williams is done. He spends more time on the ground then does upright. Cedric Griffin and BB must go. What type of return are we getting from Gerhart?? Trades like this make mw want to kick Spielman in the pillows.

  126. By Woodboat on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    @ CVF..

    I know, right? Rudolph looks GREAT. I’m hoping (and expecting) he and Ponder to gel…. with Harvin and Peterson, and hopefully one of the new WRs (Jenkins), this could set us up for quite a few years. I’ve already beat on the O-line, so I’ll leave it alone… :)

  127. By CanadianVF on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    @ Woodboat, you are right about lying on your back. I get to watch my son run for his life or lying on his back each week at his high school games. Our offensive line is terrible. ( Ha! Ha!)

  128. By Woodboat on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    WHAT!!?!?! What’s going on with gerhart?????

  129. By Animal26 on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Starting to wonder what Mike Wobschall problem is with Ponder. This should have been shown first on the Vikings homepage.

  130. By Mike B. on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Wobby isn’t going to post anything till after Coaches announces it. We will have to wait till after the presser

  131. By Mike B. on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    LIke all this momentum on the stadium issue time for MN to take it seriously.

  132. By VegasVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Nova- I think you would make an excellent addition to the site. You already are! You would have to learn how to the obvious better plus ignore any player deficiencies. Can you do that?

  133. By MJH on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    In a way I feel sorry for Ponder. How is he supposed to have a chance when he plays behind the slowest, weakest, fattest OL in the NFL. It the worst ol in all of football including pop warner.

  134. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    No.

  135. By Titus on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Packers will have their first loss on Sunday!!! This will make the season– a keeper. The future of the NFC north, Ponder, takes down the invincible Rodgers.

  136. By VegasVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    MJH- it will quite a learning curve huh? Let’s hope the rest of the team gets better at their jobs, kinda like they did for Favre in 09. Rise to the occasion

  137. By VegasVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Then you will be STAKED!!

  138. By Mike B. on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    @Titus I am with you this team plays tough at home and tougher after a loss. I see possibility of a good win.

  139. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I’m too old to change my ways, but that’s what I like about me.

  140. By VegasVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    *** state the obvious

  141. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    This 2 hour time difference really sucks, gotta take Sonja out for a stroll, you guys take it easy.

  142. By Shukin on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I think I just sh!t my pants

  143. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I guess maybe somebody should have taken you out for a stroll.

  144. By Shukin on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    your probably right…any TP?

  145. By Frederick Jones on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I read through most of the previous 144 blogs…

    Not one blogger has the curiousity, or insight to blame
    THE VIKINGS FRONT OFFICE ! ! !

    Sorry for yelling.

  146. By Shukin on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Thanks Fred, I just sh!t my pants again..

  147. By Northern Norseman on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Okay, I will just say I like M. Wobby. I remember when he first started and just seeing where he is at today is a dramatic difference. Much more comfortable, he knows more about the game, and is simply overall more professional about what he does. Having said that, I respect what he does for this site. As for the idiots that are hating on the fact that Wobby has not put anything about Ponder starting is because the Vikings franchise has not PUBLICLY THEMSELVES addressed the media about the position change. Clearly is was stated that Wednesday would be the announcement. It’d be immature for Wobby to suddenly write about something JUST BECAUSE it is being swirled around the WWW. Maybe if Mike was on a different site…… maybe…… but he is not……. he is on vikings.com. Quit being sooo negative.

  148. By Frederick Jones on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Sure there is blame with the coaches and players. There is just as much blame to give the FRONT OFFICE.

    The problem is that you cannot name them very easily.

    Only the FRONT OFFICE has any idea who was responsible for picking
    Adrian Peterson, or NFL failures like Troy Williamson or Marcus Johnson.

    So it’s tough to pick on all of our
    EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENTS OF NOSE PICKING
    OR
    SCOUTS WITHOUT JUDGEMENT

  149. By Frederick Jones on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    @Northern Norseman,

    I believe that Frazier was protecting Ponder from being thrown
    to the NFL WARS too early in his career.

    Frazier must feel like he is ruining the future career of Ponder by
    playing him so soon.

    We would have been better of starting JOE WEBB and drafting an OL or DB in the draft. AND we could have picked up a WR via free agency.

    HINDSIGHT?…I DOUBT IT. There are many bloggers who would have been for some combination of WR OL or DB in the draft or free agency in April / Baby!

    C. Ponder may have a great career, and may lead the Vikings to a few victories this year. HOPEFULLY.

  150. By Northern Norseman on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Honestly every franchise comes down to the scouting/front office department. Bad scouting, bad picks, bad teams, bad attendance, and in the end….. low revenue. Even though the Vikings have dropped the ball on some players they have also made franchise selections. Since Rick Spielman has came into his role for the Vikings I believe OVERALL that he and his team have done a good jobs. That’s hard to see now but with a good draft or two (and of course Ponder panning out) I believe the Vikings could be contenders. Basically it comes down to first tier needs is OL and secondary….. second tier need is WR. Luckily this next draft should have plenty of what the purple need.

  151. By Mike B. on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    @Fred No one could have predicted that Troy Williams wasn’t going to be a great WR. There was every indication he would be a great WR. It doesn’t always happen. Sometimes that happens to a team. Let’s look at not fighting to keep Rice. Not looking at the state of the OL. Ingoring Drafing a QB of the future for so long. Many other things to complain about the front office.

  152. By Mike B. on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Why didn’t the coaches take time to motivate Big Mac see if he would adjust as he has with the Ravens. Our OL would be much better with Big Mac there. What was with the deal releasing Matt Birk he is still a beast again with rhe Ravens. The front office and coaches have issues when deterimining what personel are good an which are not.

  153. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    @ Northern Norseman…..Do you think all this criticism is because of today??? This man is the lamest writer of any sports blog that i have ever read. With all the issues confronting this team, he only sees fit to compose less-than-vanilla articles about the most mundane topics imaginable. He never answers any question that could be construed as being anywhere close to controversial. And then he has the audacity to demand that we fans “look at both sides of the issues” before we criticize. Try and get him to discuss both sides of the issue about topics like our porous secondary, the brutal play of MCGagg, or my personal favorite, Bernard Berrian. As I said in an earlier blog, if Wobschall’s house was burning down, he would tell you how nice the rosebushes lookes.

  154. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    *looked.

  155. By Woodboat on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Birk was injured… hence.. released.

    Big Mac had been getting worse and worse attitude wise, and showed up as a tub of lard with a hair in it, figuring the staff would just kiss his backside -or- release him so he could play for another team. Win/win for him. Now he’s playing like he has something to prove, which he does.

  156. By Northern Norseman on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    @Frederick Jones,

    I definitely agree on the whole Frazier bit.

    Its really hard to say what ‘should’ have been down for the last draft. Im still shocked by the drafting of Ross Homan and not taking a chance on Mark Herzlich or the WR Burton but not the WR Torrey Smith but that is a whole other topic.

    I think this last free agency was tougher to go out and get a legit WR because of our cap concerns. There were a couple like Edwards and others but I was okay with what was done I guess.

    I can see your Joe Webb bit though also. Im not absolutely sold on him being a full time starting QB in the NFL BUT he is so gol darn dang talented that he should be untilized in games anyway.

  157. By Rocksalt on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    so….Frazier wants the Oline and Dline to be more physical…………no kidding? …and I want a pony for chrissmas………well Leslie, maybe if you wish REAL HARD, and click your heels 3 times, then your dreams will come true!

  158. By Woodboat on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I hack on Wobbs, too, but let’s give him a break. He isn’t a journalist, he’s a PR guy. PR guys that hack on their employer become ex-PR guys in a freakin hurry. Take what he says with a grain of salt… I’m sure his job is tough enough trying to find positive stories in this mess of a season without us tearing him to shreds…

    Dude has a job to do. I don’t think any of us could do it better and stay employed.

  159. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    No, I tried it Rock, Berrian’s still on the team.

  160. By Woodboat on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Rocksalt, don’t be ridiculous, man!!! That will just end him up in bed in some shack in Kansas!!!! What he REALLY needs to do is sing the Heffalumps and Woozles song from Winnie the Pooh. Once he comes down from THAT trip, his mind will be RACING and he’ll figure a way outta this mess!!!

  161. By Frederick Jones on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Start by blaming the FRONT OFFICE for the last two losing seasons.

    At some point, you MUST blame the talent-seekers.

    VP’s that do nothing but pick their noses.
    Scouts that only watch the QB.
    Owners that know very little about football and make poor decisions for the franchise.

    Let’s quit blaming the players and coaches so much. The FAT GUYS at the top also have input and give FOOLISH ORDERS.

  162. By jdude on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    That’s what I said like two week’s ago.

  163. By Mike B. on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    @Woodboat Injured doesn’t mean he was done. He played at probowl level most of his career wouldn’t that rate a wait and see. They have done that with Griffen and he hasn’t came back fully nor was he pro bowl before his injuries. Big Mac yes he was out of condition, but let’s be honest he was cut to set an example to rest of the team. My opinion they didn’t want to work with him any long. Maybe a win for him, but loss for us. How Gus Ferrotte was treated by Chilly was really bad. He was the reason we got in the play offs in 08 and he was benched for the TJack experiment.

  164. By Northern Norseman on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    @Nova

    I completely agree with your take. I didn’t want to get the wrong message that he is perfect because he’s not. Just wanted to at least address that he has come a long ways from when he first started. The whole over the top enthusiasm on ever topic is a little much but I wonder since it is a vikings.com website that they don’t want him to start ripping on players/staff/coaches. I do, though, notice even on KFAN radio that he does still have that big bias to him but he seems at least a little more straight foward. Some moments I am like ‘yeah….. of course you would say that Wobby.” So he is not perfect. I definitely know what your saying though and agree to a certain point. Hopefully with time he’ll improve just as he has from his first days.

  165. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Woodboat, maybe you’re right, but I could never be that kind of yes-man.

  166. By Woodboat on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Oh, I’m not saying Birk is useless. I wish he was on our IR list right now, let me tell you. I’m just saying that they must have figured they didn’t need him anymore and kicked him to the curb.

  167. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Northern Norseman, I know what you’re saying, I just think there is more to this team than Jared Allen’s march to 100 sacks (and I am a huge Allen fan).

  168. By jdude on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Joe Should have started. Left McNabb to rust. Leave Ponder, and if things didn’t work out we could have drafted Luck or Moore next year. with that first round pick we could have gotten an OL, a Receiver, or a good DB.

  169. By Brad on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I would have to agree with you Nova, I love that about the rosebushes while his house was burning, LOL

  170. By Frederick Jones on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    NOVA is a powerful writer…if we could get him to attack the front office, perhaps they would bring in someone who can pick out talent.

    Personally, I don’t think it is that difficult to pick the high first rounders like Adrian Peterson. Look at the people who were picked after AD. I’m betting they have been in several Pro Bowls, just like AD.

    The mistakes our recent draft group is making IS PICKING PEOPLE AT THE RIGHT POSITIONS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    FOR FRED’S SAKE…HOW CAN U NOT SECURE OLs, and DBs when that was what you clearly needed during the previous 2010 season !

  171. By Northern Norseman on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I say if the Vikings can snag the top 2 OTs in the draft then pull the trigger. CB depth this year for the draft is fantastic so the 2nd round could be great value for that position.

    REMEMBER too folks that the Vikings still may get a conditional (I think that is the right term) 3rd round pick since the purple lost S. Rice in free agency.

    That could be used as trade value to move up to nab another great player in the 1st or just another selection to get an additional players. Either is great with me.

  172. By Rocksalt on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Gee willikers fellas……does that mean I still get my pony?

  173. By Mike B. on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I like Mike W. He takes the time to answer questions and takes time for lots of fans. You may not like what he says or even agree with him, but he gives his time to us. I think that’s great.

  174. By Rocksalt on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Monday Morning Mailbag is so frikkin vanilla I could puke!

  175. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    @Fred, thanks for the compliment. I’m actually getting tired of ragging on Wobschall. Last year it was Chili. Maybe I should focus some of my venom on the front office, God knows they deserve some of it.

  176. By Frederick Jones on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    JDude,

    Yet another person who recognizes the big three:

    Offensive Line
    Defensive Backs
    Wide Receivers

    I would go so far as to say we are a good football team EXCEPT for those three areas.

    blame the F R O N T O F F I C E ! ! ! :( :( :( :( :(

  177. By Titus on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Just give me a present on Sunday. Hand the Packers their first loss. Oh what sweetness. It is most likely. We have a better shot at beating them than most teams because we have such a long history with them and our team will be pumped after the last loss and with a fresh arm at quarterback. I expect the Pack to go down. In fact, I guarantee it.

  178. By Rocksalt on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    If Nova gets me my pony, then I am all for it

  179. By Rocksalt on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Really Titus? another of your predictions?

  180. By Frederick Jones on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    @Northern Norseman,

    Your plan is fine. At least you would be getting players in the right positions.

    NORTHERN NORSEMAN FOR ASST. VP of PRO PLAYER PERSONNEL.

    But would they listen to you? Whose pulling the trigger?

  181. By Woodboat on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Fred… I don’t have a problem with this last draft, really. If Ponder is the guy, well, you can’t complain about getting him in the first. Rudolph, our second pick, I think was a steal… and that was the reason they gave for taking him when they did. Yeah, we need OL and DB help.. Lord knows I’ve harped on that enough… and they tried to pick up some guys later in the draft that might actually be productive in time. Not a bad draft, really.

  182. By Frederick Jones on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    @ JOE Titus,

    Wow, a guarantee ! Perhaps the Pack will be looking for an easy one???

  183. By Rocksalt on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    now you really did it, Titus….a guaranteed win?……..its as good as gold we lose

  184. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Can’t Rock, I need him for an adult film I’m producing.

  185. By Northern Norseman on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    @Mike B.

    Exactly…… he is good at what he does. Can he improve? Yes of course he can but Wobby is young and has tons of time to improve his craft.

    P.s. I still remember his first interviews……. you could tell he was so uncomfortable and had very little confidence. I felt as if I was watching a young mans career crash and burn like the Hindenburg but he’s still here. He is getting better.

  186. By Woodboat on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Titus, when you say things like that, it makes me hit the refresh button a few times waiting for the punch line. Your credability slips with each such post…. :)

  187. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Goodnight all.

  188. By Woodboat on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Yeah, guys, Wobbs is alright. He isn’t going to get a job at ESPN anytime soon, but I think he’s doing his best…. he isn’t the weakest employee at their position in that office, that’s for sure…

  189. By Rocksalt on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    night Nova

  190. By Mike B. on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Another thing Mike W is a fan of the Vikings and he is with us but is not free to express it like the rest of us.

  191. By Northern Norseman on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Seriously, what if Ponder dominates and gets a win this Sunday??

    What a day in Vikings history that would be!

  192. By Frederick Jones on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Mike Wobschall,

    I agree with you 100% that the fans do not know how the Vikings manage to make their genius decisions for the draft.

    Pray tell…how do they pick only 8 OLinemen in 9 years??? Perhaps my knowledge is lacking, don’t they use 5 guys on the Offensive Line?

    And then explain to US MORONs how NONE of those linemen are good NFL players?

  193. By DRS on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    This is from,

    By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8233da52/article/vikings-name-rookie-ponder-starting-qb-amid-15-season

    Vikings coach Leslie Frazier made the decision this week and has notified Donovan McNabb, whom the coach hand-picked to come in and try to help Minnesota avoid a rebuilding year.

    So everyone who is at fault for Mc Nabb being in MN? Way to go Coach.

  194. By Rocksalt on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    ST. PAUL, Minn. — A top NFL executive said Tuesday that league officials want the Vikings to remain in Minnesota but worry there won’t be a financing plan in place to build a new stadium when the Metrodome’s lease expires later this year.

    Eric Grubman, the vice president who leads the NFL’s business operations, privately met with Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton, who’s pushing for a special session by late November to deal with the stadium issue, though Republican legislative leaders so far haven’t jumped on the bandwagon.

    The Democratic governor is holding several days of meetings with different stakeholders as he pushes for team supporters to assemble a plan that could get an up or down vote by lawmakers.

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    “We’re worried about a stalemate,” Grubman said after Tuesday’s meeting. “A stalemate means there’s no lease, or the lease is about to expire; there’s no plan for a stadium, and there’s an alternative plan in another city.”

    Grubman said that would increase the probability of the Vikings moving somewhere else, though he wouldn’t speculate just how likely.

    “Our job is to make sure that doesn’t happen,” he said, but added the greater responsibility lies with Dayton and state lawmakers.

    Grubman declined to speculate about where the Vikings could end up if they were to leave Minnesota, but he acknowledged the strong commitment by several Los Angeles business groups to land a NFL franchise there. Grubman said he realized public financing for a football stadium could be a tough sell in the current political environment and that Minnesotans would have to decide what they want for the Twin Cities area.

    Dayton reaffirmed after the NFL meeting that he takes seriously the prospect of the Vikings leaving Minnesota and that failure to get a proposal through the Legislature in what’s left of 2011 likely would end up delaying final resolution into 2013 or beyond.

    Vikings owners and officials are pushing a $1.1 billion stadium plan at the Arden Hills site, with costs to be shared by Ramsey County, the state of Minnesota and the team. Grubman said the league could contribute as much as $150 million to the Vikings’ share, pegged to be at least $400 million and possibly more if there are cost overruns.

    Several potential stadium sites in Minneapolis also are in the mix, and Dayton has refused to rule them out despite the team’s insistence on Arden Hills.

    Copyright 2011 by The Associated Press

  195. By ALLDAY28 on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    I thought erin henderson looked really good in that last game it seemed like he was all over the field making plays and i was very impressed also really like how ponder played and cant wait for the future however saying that cedric griffen played terrible and has for a few weeks now i say we give marcus sherels a shot he has seemed really impressive and also we should pick up Justin Blackmon in the draft the kid is a freak he reminds me of moss which is very exciting

  196. By Titus on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    The city will parade Ponder downtown on Monday after the victory.

  197. By Titus on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    It will be close, though. I am not predicting a blowout. Packers are due for a loss– why not against a rival that knows them better than anyone (except maybe Chicago)? Add the dome. Add the humiliation we just suffered nationally. Add some of our seasoned vets– Allen and AP are going to have monster days. Our coach is looking worse– we need a win and I expect the Pack will go down.
    MARK MY WORDS. SEALED AND GUARANTEED. If I am wrong, I will self-impose exile to an island in the Mediterranean for three weeks with no blogging.

  198. By TheRealDon on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Can somebody wake Mike W up and tell him update the site..

  199. By Titus on Oct 18, 2011 | Reply

    Mike W has a select comfort.

  200. By bkvikings on Oct 19, 2011 | Reply

    Set webb as a wide out? Guy is a freakish talent. I was a mcnabb supporter until I got to see ponder. He was moving and the future looks bright! We should have traded bb for a back o line man… Something. Talent is there we just need an oline and D consistency

  201. By Brad on Oct 19, 2011 | Reply

    Titus: that is a pretty strong prediction about Sunday’s game but in all actuality I hope you are correct on your prediction. What I believe will happen is we will play better now with Ponder than McNabb but the game will be closer than most people think. That is if the fans that are going to this game are louder than ever before.

  202. By 61vikings on Oct 19, 2011 | Reply

    No more hiring guys es!! Les Steckel went 3-13 in his first year as coach and was fired!! The players hated him for running a military type camp!! Now we have Les Frazier, who looks like he’s on his way to a poor record, especially if we play the way we did against Chicago!! Only difference here is, I really think the players like Les Frazier!! Remember, Bud Grant was stoic and lacked in emotion during the games and he turned out to be a great coach, Hall of Fame coach!! I’m not saying Les Frazier is going to be a Bud Grant, but he needs time to build the team his way!! I say give him 3 years to see what he can do!!

  203. By jv3rnon on Oct 19, 2011 | Reply

    Well we now know who our guy is.(PONDER) Next season give him a chance with a number 1 WR and O-Line to protect him. Percy,Jenkins,Shiancoe, and Devin are good targets but need to drop Berrian and get a 1#. O-line needs to get better, drop Sullivan,Herrera, and maybe Loadholt. On defense please get a OLB where Erin is playing. Also, DBs you keep Winfield and Cook but the rest aint that great improve that Frazier or you gone be out just like Chilly man. Hate to say it but you not the right man for the job you to nice. Need to be aggressive like Belicheck or a Rex Ryan.

  204. By 61vikings on Oct 19, 2011 | Reply

    First line should read, “No more hiring guys named Les”!!!!

  205. By Joner on Oct 19, 2011 | Reply

    Titus – I don’t know what you’ve been taking but i think i’ll have some…not a chance this game is even close.

    Packers (i hate to admit it), are far too good for us this year just as they were last year. We have too many deficiencies behind the D-Line and in the O-Line. McNabb didn’t even play badly against the Bears, he was probably our best player for once.

    As i posted to Mike’s mailbag 2 weeks ago, the win over the Cardinals was clearly just papering over the cracks and we simply are not a good football team. With the right draft pieces (O-Line, DB’s + 1 big WR), we could challenge for wild card spot next year.

  206. By hippster on Oct 19, 2011 | Reply

    win or lose anything will be better than watching mcnabb hit the turf ,

  207. By haedter on Oct 19, 2011 | Reply

    Is anybody els sick of seeing the back of EJ jersey chasing a TE/slot reciever after getting ridiculously burned. He a good run stopper, but common back up a few yards, read they play and use your spped to make up for it. The safties should just play over EjJ they would get 3 pics a game. Just sayin

  208. By don on Oct 19, 2011 | Reply

    FRazier is an example of why hiring an assistant of a failed head coach is not a good idea. His choices of who to keep are crazy. He kept too few offensive lineman. Could have used R cook and olson now. He kept De Geare who should havwe bee canned for showing up overweight. He blames the defensive line. I Chicago only sent out two or three receivers it is hard for the line to get through but the cover should be easy

  209. By New Vike on Oct 19, 2011 | Reply

    I just hope that fans realize that the move to Ponder is about getting him some seasoning so the payoff comes next year. Anybody who thinks he is going to come in and the team is just going to turn things around, probly shouldnt hold their breath. It is the right move for the long term of the franchise weather or not Ponder is truly the future. If not, the Vikes have a great chance at landing a prime time slot in the draft. Sometimes it takes a few down years to build up your franchise if you make the right picks. Look at Detroit. The rest of the season will most likely be an evaluation process on the younger players to see who is in the longterm plans. I am curious to see how things pan out. I hope Joe Webb is somewhere in the blueprint of the future…

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