After (Film) Review: Explosive Passes vs. Cardinals Defense

Posted by Mike Wobschall on October 7, 2011 – 6:33 am

The Vikings are among the NFL’s best teams at running the football in 2011, as they rank 1st in the NFL with 5.6 yards per carry and 3rd in both rushing yards per game (157.0) and runs of 10+ yards (19). The Vikings passing offense, though, has been a bit slower out of the gates; they rank 31st in passing yards (155.0) per game, tied for 25th in receptions of 20+ yards and 17th in passer rating (80.9).

This Sunday’s game against the Cardinals at Mall of America Field provides the Vikings a good chance to get their passing game on track. Arizona’s pass defense has yielded 283.0 yards per game (26th in the NFL) and opposing QBs have a passer rating 89.4 (14th in the NFL). More importantly in my view is the fact that Arizona has allowed 26 gains of 20+ yards, with 23 of those coming through the air. Only one team has allowed more gains of 20+ yards and only one team has allowed more gains of 20+ yards through the air.

So I went through Arizona’s 4 games this season and charted all 23 receptions of 20+ yards (we’ll call them Big Gains) against them. Below I’ve listed a few trends and what it could mean for the Vikings on Sunday…

– WRs hauled in 17 of the 23 (74%) Big Gains, TEs had 5 (21.7%) and RBs had 1 (4.3%). This is good news for Bernard Berrian and Percy Harvin, and perhaps Devin Aromashodu. We saw Aromashodu get past the Chiefs secondary for a 34-yard TD last week, and I think both Berrian and Harvin will have opportunities to do the same on Sunday.

– Arizona has allowed 11 of 23 (47.9%) Big Gains on 1st and 10, 7 (30.1%) have come on 2nd and long, 3 (13%) on 3rd and long and 1 (4.3%) each on 2nd and medium and 3rd and short. This could play into the Vikings hands perfectly because of how well they’ve rushed the ball. If Adrian Peterson can get going on the ground early, the Cardinals will be forced to allocate more defenders closer to the line of scrimmage, especially on obvious running downs such as 1st and 10, and that could further expose the Cardinals secondary on 1st and 10.

– Just 6 of those 23 (26.1%) Big Gains have come when the Cardinals have sent 5+ rushers to the QB. This tells me that the Big Gains are not the result of receivers coming open because of blitzing defenders. Opposing QBs and receivers are finding holes in the coverage, and the Vikings must find a way to do this, too. The Cardinals run a mix of man and zone coverage, and they also play a pretty significant amount of single-high safety. It’s important for the Vikings to find holes in the coverage because Arizona’s secondary is a group of very good tacklers. Only 1 of the 23 Big Gains was a catch-and-run play (WR screen pass to Sidney Rice).

– This is a bit of over simplification, but 17 of the 23 (74%) Big Gains were throws to the outside half of the field, while 6 (26%) of the 23 Big Gains were throws to the inside of the field. I think Arizona’s pass defense is vulnerable on the edges. Whether that means attacking the CBs exclusively or finding ways to dictate man-to-man coverage and then running outside routes with RBs and TEs, I’m not sure; that’s for the Vikings offensive staff to figure out. But I’ve seen teams find more success attacking the edges of the Cardinals defense than attacking the middle of it.

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145 Responses to “After (Film) Review: Explosive Passes vs. Cardinals Defense”

  1. By JT on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    So there should be no excuses for McNabb if he doesn’t light them up!

  2. By Ricky on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Deach Coach Frazier,
    I want to beat the Cardinals, kick their butts! I want the Vikings to get a touchdown twice! My dad is so excited, all my folks like the Vikings and me too. Beat their butts, I’m sick and tired of losing. Beat them down!

    From Ricky, on behalf of my dad too

  3. By Rogerthevikefan on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    The excuse is he is not that good any more. Play Ponder build his confidence before he has to play against a defence like the Bears.

  4. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Suck for Luck, 0-5 baby!!

  5. By Rogerthevikefan on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Aromashodu, Harvin, and Jenkins should be the starting 3 wr this week going forward. BB has the additude of a superstar Wr but the skills of a 1000 year old corpse so please drop him and activate #16 Emmanuel Arceneaux.

  6. By Parody on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Why is Jenkins being ignored by this team? Everything he has done, compared to the competetion, is a great argument that he should be the #1 WR. This article is a perfect example of how little the team thinks of him though, as he is not even considered for an opportunity in attacking AZ’s weak pass defense.

    “WRs hauled in 17 of the 23 (74%) Big Gains… This is good news for Bernard Berrian and Percy Harvin, and perhaps Devin Aromashodu”

    There may be concern about Jenkins being able to get open deep for the long throw, but combine numbers suggest that there shouldn’t be. He has 4 inches of height on Berrian, and very similar numbers on the speed drills. Jenkins appears to be faster, with a best 4.4 second 40 compared to Berrian’s 4.57 top speed. This should make him better able to get past the DBs for the deep throw, but for some reason the team is completely overlooking him. WHY?

    Aromashodu has both beat in all speed categories at the combine, including a 4.35 40, so it’s fair to give him recognition, but there’s still no excuse to be ignoring Jenkins as a deep threat if players who don’t contribute to the team are being recognized.

  7. By Parody on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    I agree with you Roger. Aromashodu and Jenkins look like they care about the game. Berrian just looks like he’s there for the paycheck, which is why his check is so much smaller than the one he originally agreed to when he signed with the team, but still much larger than it deserves to be for a player who gets half a catch per game.

  8. By Parody on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Maybe I’m not being fair to Berrian though. Let’s compare their stats for this year, since that’s what really matters. HALF of Berrian’s catches are for 20+ yards, while Jenkins’ is only doing so 6% of the time. Jenkins has more TDs than long receptions! How selfish is that? At least Berrian is catching bálls even though he knows he doesn’t have a chance to score…now there’s a team player…

    It’s clear that Berrian deserves to be the starter. He has just as many catches as the #4 receiver, with just a couple yards less and only one fewer TD. That’s all we ask of our top producers! Don’t worry that you’re being outplayed by a benchwarmer, we like your personality! You don’t complain when you sück….well you didn’t anyways…that whole thing with Twitter must have been taken out of context…we still love ya BB!

  9. By snowro on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Mike Wobs looks like Napolian Dynamite…. It makes me laugh every time I watch something with him in it…. I am glad he has a pretty positive outlook on things, it makes this season seem not as bad, keep up the good work man!

  10. By Rogerthevikefan on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    At this rate BB will have an amazing record of 8 catches in 16 games I mean thats unheard of.

  11. By Parody on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    We have Berrian in there for his intelligence anyways. He’s smart enough to know the throws that he has a low chance of catching, so he gives up on them nice and early to make sure that he doesn’t hurt himself trying to make a play that’s beyond his skills. Keep using that head of yours BB! All we care about is your health…if you’re not at 100% then you won’t be able to produce as much as you do…

  12. By Cobrasvt on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Please don’t make the Cardinal’s secondary look good this week!

  13. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    I wonder if McNabb asks his receivers if they prefer the ball too high or at their feet

  14. By Parody on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    I think Bernard prefers it too high. Then at least he doesn’t quite look like an idiot when he watches sail 2 feet over his head compared to watching bounce off his toes while he’s standing up straight…

  15. By Webb on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Fire musgrave he doesn’t know how to orchestrate an offense right, a big failure.

  16. By Webb on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    If there is one staff on this team that needs to hit the door and sent packing it is musgrave this offense does not take advantage of 8 man fronts. pagac also is struggling with his play calling both seem to remedial.

  17. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    And hey, just because our BACKUP RUNNING BACK has just as many catches and 12 more yards than BB does DOESN’T mean BB is a bad number one receiver… err wait….

  18. By Jeffbleedspurple on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    I sure hope not 0-5 baby! we have not been 0-5 since 1962 and never been 0-6! My thought is after watching a presser, how stupid and ignorant it is to stick to a game plan that’s obviously not working.

  19. By Parody on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Where’s the competition on this team? In the preseason the coaches were repeatingly telling us that nobody had a position locked in. The best player would win the job! If that’s the case, then why are we moving into week 5 of a winless season without any changes? What do the coaches know about these underperforming players that they’re hiding from the public?

    McNabb and Berrian are the weakest players right now in positions where there’s competition. We have two players with plenty of potential who are in backup roles for both positions. Quit waiting for a rhythm to develop! These guys are too old to expect them to click after 4-weeks of utter failure. Make a change to force a rhythm to develop. That’s what coaches are there to do!

  20. By Titus on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    What a great article– Vikings are number one in the run. Many analysts say the Vikings are dead last in the whole league in terms of overall performance. Something seems very out of whack and disconnected. I am not sure I would write such an article, Mike– I might bury that run ranking deeper in the article, but to start with that appears ludicrous in light of the season so far.

  21. By Parody on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    And how about Toby Gerhart? Where’s he been this year? I know he’s the backup RB to AP, but that’s no excuse to limit him to 2-carries per game! The fact that we traded up to get him tells me that he should be treated equivalently to a starter on offense, but Kluwe is seeing the field more than he is!

    I’d be happier if they tried to work him in as the #1 receiver. He has as many catches as Berrian, with more yards and much fewer snaps! Let’s start to use our playmakers!!!

  22. By Titus on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Parody– you said it all. We can stop blogging. Here is a way out for Frazier– put in Ponder at halftime if there is a big lead– say we are letting Ponder get some snaps in one of our easier games and thank McNabb for getting the win, just let Ponder close the deal. If the game is close, let McNabb start the third quarter, but if halfway or so through the third, same old same old– no production on third downs, tell McNabb he has to sit down and think about his play for the next week– you are not firing him, he will start against the Bears, but we need a team win. Put Ponder or Webb in at that point and if we win– great. The whole team respects the coach more and everyone feels more confident– McNabb then has a chance to prove he has had a wake up call at Chicago after being replaced– if not, replace him indefinitely. Have to put the team and fans first, not one player– starting to be like the Favre syndrome– but Favre always played with fire, so it’s not completely a parallel comparison.

  23. By Shawn on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    I saw this on NFL Network


    An Eagles player … Jason Babin … I think hes a DE … said

    ” Guy at the NFL that decides on who and how much players get fined Stop being a puppet, if you want to protect QBs , get better linemen “

  24. By Shawn on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Vikings fans, I have 3 reasons the Vikings will be better in 2012 …

    #1- Tyrell Johnsons contract expires after this season

    WHEW … it gets better though

    #2- Donovan McNabbs contract expires after this season

    Hmmm ok … but the best news of all

    #3- Bernard Berrians contract expires after this season






  25. By Shawn on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    I honestly believe we could sign a new guy every single Monday and start him in Berrians spot , TJohnsons spot, and Asher Allens spot and this guy off the street with one week of practice would be just as productive and in most cases more productive

    It makes me at least understand those who have a lack of faith in the coaching

  26. By Titus on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    I have one reason 2012 will be better than this year: It will be 2012.

  27. By Parody on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Back to Berrian now…the highlight player of our dismal team…the player who is being out-performed in receptions by the #4 WR, #2 TE and #2 RB!! That’s right, we have 7-players on the team who are doing better in the receiving game than our #1 WR. But that’s not Berrian’s fault, right? He’s just been unlucky…give him time and he’ll catch another 99-yard throw…heck, I’ll bet he already has this year – the team does a lot of practicing without a defense…

  28. By Shawn on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Titus I like your idea … about a half time QB switch

    Parody I agree 100% … Id be happier with Toby at WR or Joe Webb or Aromahadu

    Why is our front office blind to Berrings nothingness?

    Berrian is a complete non factor … hes wasted space … dead weight …

  29. By Shawn on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    how is a 4.57 40 guy = deep threat ? in the words of the great Mike Tyson ” its Ludacriss ”

    Berrian is an average #4 WR … if there is enough talent on the field than Berrian is able to show contribution

    But Berrian himself does not have the talent to start for any other team in the NFL … hes an off the bench guy except for us

  30. By Titus on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Two games to Moss. I said 6th game– time is running out. Come on, get ‘er done.

  31. By Parody on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    So why is it that our team is so high on flash-in-the-pan type of players? That’s players who had one great play, or maybe one great game their entire career. We see that one great play, and expect them to be able to duplicate it every time they hit the field. That’s why Greg Lewis wasted a roster spot for an entire year, that’s why Berrian is still on this team, and like it or not, that’s why Aromashodu was brought in – because his flash-in-the-pan game occured against Leslie Frazier’s defense. That’s arguably why McNabb is here as well. Favre had one last great hoorah in MN after his career fell apart, and now the coaching staff is betting that McNabb can duplicate that.

  32. By VegasVike on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Correction Titus, you said game 4 originally on Moss.

  33. By Titus on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Really Vegas? Maybe somewhere, but I do know in more recent blogs I said 6. Pretty sure on that–

  34. By Robins on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Why don’t we play Ponder to see if he is the quarterback we want? He was great in college. Give him a chance. McLoser can’t win a game. Bring Brett in to coach Ponder. Let the young take over and play against each other. Good luck Vikings on Sunday. Unfortunately with McLoser, we know we will lose. Too bad. Berrian needs to go too. Too bad we cut Sidney. He was fantastic.

  35. By Shawn on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Parody those are some good questions … questions that a certain “jounalist ” might look for answers to.

  36. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Should have paid vincent jackson what he wanted last year we could have had him, he’s a beast

  37. By Titus on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Unfortunately, journalism is a lost art that is hard to find in today’s world– it’s out there, but places like this site- more PR than journalism. This kid is not a journalist in the pure sense of the word, but a talking head for the organization.

  38. By Frederick Jones on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Twenty-eight NFL teams have drafted at least one offensive lineman in the first round since 2002. The Vikings aren’t one of them.

  39. By Tfunk on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    poor management here….

    draft gerhardt when we have peterson?
    draft randolf when we have shiancoe, klein & dugan?

    how about a safety or addressing the lines…

    fire speilman, frazier, studwell, mcnabb…

    hire a gm, singletary, new scouting dept, and ponder/webb

  40. By Frederick Jones on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply


    Thanks for the DE quote.

    Our own defensive line is above average. It is the defensive backs that make the defensive linemen look bad.

    Good coverage leads to sacks. Good pressure leads to interceptions.
    —-I know you know this, I put it in for a few of our young bloggers who are
    unaware of this principle.

    Put Sherels in the dang darn ball game!!!

  41. By Frederick Jones on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply


    You are right on!

    We have to attack the root of the problem, which has to be the front office.

    Or it’s off to the Phillipines and to be renamed the MANILA FOLDERS.

  42. By Frederick Jones on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply


    Your theory about expired contracts is not bad. Many teams have shown improvement when key players moved on.

    As much as I liked Scott Studwell as a player, he may be part of the problem when it comes to the draft. I mean we don’t know…

    Matt Millen was also a great player like Studwell. Look what happened to the Lions in the early 2000s up until this year. Millen was a big part of that disaster.

    Studwell is in charge of college personnel isn’t he?

    If these guys have had a few years as “Executive Vice President of Nose Picking,” it’s time to go in another direction.

    Blame THEM for the 0-4. (The front office also picks the COACHES, yes it is true.)

  43. By Mike B on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    It’s time for the big win this weekend in the metrodome. Goo Vikings. On another note if we are tanking it at half time, I think that Ponder comes in. If not I really think you will Fraizer shown the door Monday morning. This coach is tied to his decision on McNabb and Ponder. If we are 0-5 I have the feeling the Fraizer era is over quick. I think we need a spark at WR and should bring Emmanuel Arceneaux off the practice squad and get him on the field. He was this big CFL WR give the cards someone else to think about other than BB. See if that opens up the game. Just a thought.

  44. By lavonboy69 on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    start harvin devin jenkins

  45. By Frederick Jones on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    This, my fine feather friends, is the main problem:

    Twenty-eight NFL teams have drafted at least one offensive lineman in the first round since 2002. The Vikings aren’t one of them

  46. By Shawn on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Tfunk … your attacking Scott Studwell? Really ?

  47. By GM on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Hire me, Tfunk?

  48. By Shawn on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    eww it rubs me the wrong way to attack Scott Studwell … as a fan

    Im not following you on that one … obviously since we went to the new front office formation we have had better drafts

    Yes its time for OL I agree …

    we used to do it the way you are suggesting Fred … and we had the 2 worst drafts ever

  49. By Frederick Jones on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply


    posted this, “Twenty-eight NFL teams have drafted at least one offensive lineman in the first round since 2002. The Vikings aren’t one of them.”

    What about the other 3 teams? Did they use free agency and trades to get their offensive linemen? We did get Steve Hutchinson. Charlie Johnson? Is he injured? Why is he so bad.?

    Who else did we get. In addition we have ignored the defensive halfback positions. We picked up Winfield in recent years. Who else???

    There are not many names you could fill in here. (Sharper, but when was that?)

  50. By VegasVike on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Yes it was during pre season, I’m just hoping. Not a proponent of Moss but hey, he can’t make it worse!

  51. By Frederick Jones on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Scott Studwell was a great linebacker.

    It’s time to move in a different direction with the scouts, and the VPs of picking ones own nose.

    I would never say it to his face! ! !

  52. By GM on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Why does everyone mention the lack of production from Berrian and never mention how he is freeing up other receivers by pulling 2 – 3 man coverage?

    Hmm? Why?

    Why?………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………. . . . . . . . .

  53. By Shawn on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    I like the front office system better than a coach that does everything …

    an NFL coach spends the whole college football season playing NFL games

    having the front office allows someone to focus on college football and its players


  54. By Shawn on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Fred I have a question …

  55. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    @GM: Lolz, no one is double covering Berrian, he drops everything he touches

  56. By Frederick Jones on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply


    I missed something.

    We used to draft the way I am suggesting?

    I am suggesting that we draft for good OLs and DBs. (We have not done this for at least ten years.)

    Many are saying that the coaches need to be accountable for the 0-4. I agree, but this 0-4 is much more the front office’s s c r e w i n g up of the draft for the last 10 years.

    Did you read RockSalt’s quote?

  57. By Mike Wobschall on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Parody – The reason I didn’t mention Jenkins with Berrian, Harvin and Aromashodu in this entry is because we haven’t used Jenkins in a field-stretching manner to this point. I think we can attack this defense vertically down the field, which means the three aforementioned players, not Jenkins.

    I don’t think this team has forgotten about Jenkins. The guy has 2 TD catches and he’s made numerous big-time catches in critical situations, such as 3rd downs. Also, he was the player guest this week for many of our programs, including Vikings Live from Winter Park and Vikings GamePlan. I think Jenkins is a valued member of this organization and I’m glad he’s on the team.

  58. By Frederick Jones on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply


    The coach should be able to pick who he wants. Of course he wants to talk to his scouts, and etc.


  59. By Shawn on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Since Spielman and the front office was formed which of these guys would you have ignored in the draft for an OLmen ?

    2011-1st round- Ponder …

    2010- no 1st round pick … this would of been the only spot I see your theory seeing as how we traded out of the first round to get Chris Cook

    2009- 1st round- Harvin … ?

    2008- 1st rounder traded for Jared Allen … ?

    2007- 1st rounder- Peterson … ?

    2006- 1st rounder- Chad Greenway … ?

    from 06-09 where did we go wrong Fred?

  60. By Shawn on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Fred …

    This front office started in 2006

    Mike Tice was a completely differant beast … Mike tice did not have Spielman

  61. By Frederick Jones on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply


    Often the NFL losing teams become a carousel of coaching changes.

    That’s what the LIons did. Did it work?

    What they did is procure more talent.

  62. By Shawn on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Fred tell me where Spielman and Studwell went wrong from 06-09?

  63. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

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  64. By Frederick Jones on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply


    The jury is still out on Chris Cook, but it seems as if he was not a good choice.

    Experts usually say it takes 3 years to evaluate a draft. We have had more than 3 years to judge the 2004 and 2005 drafts. I listed them in an earlier blog.

    Those were the WORST DRAFTS IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL. I feel certain that many of those executives are still with the Vikings.

    We haven’t “drafted an OL in the early rounds since 2002.” That statement says it all. Rocksalt quoted Mark Craig a newspaper reporter.

    Shawn I am not mad at you. Some other bloggers initiated this bashing of the front office.
    I think it is the direction we need to go now. We may already turn out like your Detroit City Lions for ten years. It may be too late. But it has to happen!!!

  65. By Frederick Jones on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply


    I’ve said it many times over. And over.

    How many decent offensive linemen have been drafted since 2002?

    This in no way reflects on you.

  66. By Shawn on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Frazier will be gone sooner than later if he doesnt start holding people accountable …

    Berrian will get Frazier fired

    McNabb will get Frazier fired

    Tyrell Johnson will get frazier fired

    asher allen will get frazier fired


    Ultimately Frazier will get Frazier fired because he cant hold these guys accountable

    We’d be a better team if we just improved these 4 positions … and throw in one of or both of the Tackles

  67. By Frederick Jones on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply


    I have to go… to be continued my friend.

  68. By Shawn on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Fred you keep bringing up the 04-05 drafts as a reason to fire the front office but this front office didnt draft those guys ….

    you have to judge Spielman from 06-NOW … yes in my post I agree an OLmen for Cook but what OLmen did we skip? Maybe the good ones were already gone

  69. By Titus on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Nova– the writing here is terrible. The day of the Chiefs game Mike wrote an article saying he would have news on some players (or some news) by 10:30pm– later he changed it to 10:30 am– how in the world do you make an error like that? I can see maybe, just maybe mixing up noon and midnight. But don’t you know at 8 in the morning that two hours later is not nearly bedtime? Come on. Seems small to some– but until this organization has excellence from top office to blog articles, we will continue to spin greatness out of mediocrity. Expect more — set high standards. Oh, number one in running the ball. Yippeee. We are 32 out of 32 in the league. Get real before you get better.

  70. By Mike B on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    @Fred Hey Man you were right about the OL but the fact is they got rid of Big Mac now he’s got a chip on his shoulder and playing like a pro bowler. Why couldn’t Childress or Frazier motivate this guy. It’s about coaching they didn’t see a need for new OL as the coaches liked the guys they had. Big Mac comes in overwieght he gets cut as an example to the others not do the fact they couldn’t motivate him. They admit they haven’t made the big plays after 4 games it’s not the plays it’s the coaching. Ditka would know how to fire these players up. You don’t excute you don’t play. Pretty simple to me. Loadholt and his penalties tell em stop it lots of RTs looking for work. McNabb needs to make the other team know if you bring 8 guys in the box I am going to burn you with the WRs but hard to do when you have 3 TEs blocking. I don’t know how many 1 WR 3 TE sets I saw. The coaching is not good. 1 more game and we will know.

  71. By GM on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    When McNaab peeks over and see’s Berrian being single covered, he gives him a wink and a smooch and snaps the ball. 5 step drop, look at Berrian go, and then LOOK OUT!

    Look out Musgrave! Donovan’s ball’s gonna smack you in the head!

  72. By Mike B on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    I am really wanting a win this weekend as I think it will tell us the true character of this team and coaches.

  73. By Mike B on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    @GM where are you getting this BB pulls 2 to 3 guys the most I have seen on him is one guy.

  74. By Shawn on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Fred … another thing is that those 2 drafts … you can really see the effect of a bad draft 7- 8 years later if we would of gotten one player of Greenways caliber and one player of Harvins caliber they would be in there prime right now and we would be a better team …


    :) :) :) :) :) :)

  75. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply


  76. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Why was half of my post censored? That’s a first! Let’s try this again.

  77. By Tfunk2 on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    I think my comments are being blocked…

    besides obvious first rounders and undrafted players, we don’t have much to show in between….so studwell has to go…

    i like frazier but he is tied to mcnabb and so they both have to go…

  78. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    >>>>>>MINNEAPOLIS STAR TRIBUNE HEADLINE<<<<<<>>>> VIKING’S BLOG<<<<<<, scr3w it , just look above for punch line

  79. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    I have tried to say twice now that “vikings lose 117-7 and it won’t print it.

  80. By Tfunk2 on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    we must have hit a sore spot nova…the censors are out…

  81. By Shawn on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Tfunk2 … with all due respect, and remember I’m sayin’ with all due respect, that idea ain’t worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin gettin’ it on.

  82. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Wobschall, if you don’t censor my posts, then I won’t mention that you remind me of a Q-tip.

  83. By Tfunk2 on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    shawn…i’m not saying its gonna happen or should happen…fact is packers/lions are 4-0 and we are 0-4 and we need to see what we got and apparently no one else in the organization will say so…which if baffling… apparently we are playing for Luck…i live and dc now and can say without a doubt that dc fans are glad mcnabb is gone even if it means embracing rex grossman who was almost beat out by john beck…like obama says, its time for change…

  84. By chris on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    just put ponder or webb in i think all the fans see this season as a building year, and there is no reason to build a team with a QB your not even planing on using next year.

    just give the fans want the fans want.

  85. By Larson on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Vikings will lose by the Arizona Cardinals and the score will be 56-0.

  86. By Larson on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    No winfield, no kluwe. We can’t even punt on 4th down which makes it easier for the cardinals to score in their red zone

  87. By Larson on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    We need to call Randy Moss to come and play with us for the rest of the season to help Ponder improve his game. I dont care if Moss is the drama queen as long we are winning, drama who?

  88. By Larson on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Mr. Moss call the Vikings and tell em you want to play for us!

  89. By Larson on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Fraizer, if you want to keep your job call Moss.

  90. By vikings4life on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    PEOPLE NEED TO STOP BLAMING McNabb he has played better then anyone with a knowledge in football expected. New system no offseason literally had like a couple months to get the playbook down right now his stats are 680yrds from 65 ATT 4TD 2INT 0 FMBLS and people say he is doing bad at this point in last year FAVRE STATS WERE 861YRDs from 74 ATT 5TD 7 INT 3 FMBLS and three of the 5 TD’s came in his week 5 game cause we had a bye in week 4
    Favre threw for 180 more yards on 11 more attempts McNabb is not the problem its 4 games it makes me sick seeing how fast people give up i cant imagine if any of you were lions fans 4 games means nothing now we have nothing to loose and everything to gain we will see the best of MN in these next 4 games

  91. By Parody on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Sorry Mike Wobschall, but I’m not buying that excuse. You focused on 20+ yard catches as part of the big passing game, and Berrian just barely squeaked into that category this year by having ONE of his two catches land 20-yards up field.

    because we haven’t used Jenkins in a field-stretching manner to this point

    Adding Harvin to the equation kills your argument all together. Harvin is not a “field-stretching” type of receiver. He’s a YAC receiver. He has the speed, but doesn’t have the height or jumping ability to be the deep threat that you were considering.

    Jenkins DOES. The problem is that the coaches aren’t realizing this and trying to use him more as a slot receiver. Just because the coaches have made that error is no reason to ignore his ability to be exactly the kind of receiver we need at that position…unless you can make a GOOD argument about the player himself and his lack of skill that justifies it.

  92. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Joe Theismann, I believe, has an excellent knowledge of football and the Quarterback position. He lays the blame squarely on McNabb’s shoulders.

  93. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Parody, Percy is a Yac receiver and Berrian is a Yak receiver.

  94. By VA Vike Fan on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Everybody’s defense looks good against our offense! I bet teams cant wait to play us

  95. By SmileyStar on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    I can’t wait to see what adjustments we make this week. Last week: We went from Dominating both sides of the ball for 2 quarters and sleeping the other 2 quarters to mediocre for 4 quarters.

  96. By Parody on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Vikings4life – That is one of the weakest arguments I have ever seen. Favre of 2010 is in no way a good comparison to support your claim. The Saints crippled him so badly in the Championship game the year before that he couldn’t heal up enough to be himself ever again. Plus, the pocket was collapsing on him so fast in almost every snap that there’s no way you can expect anyone to have good stats at that point.

    The offensive line is better this year than it was in 2010, as the pocket is remaining open longer. Even with that, I wouldn’t want 2010 Favre on this team any more than I want McNabb here. Both of them are washed up, but at least Favre cared about the game. McNabb on the other hand, is always smiling after every failure as if he’s just playing some family reunion pickup game that means nothing.

    But McNabb’s biggest problem appears to be his durability. Watching the closeup shots, he looks worn out after every play. His stats get worse towards the end of games, and he has been unable to move the ball at all on third down or while running the 2-minute drill. This is partially because he is terrified to take any chances. If a player doesn’t have 5-yards of separation in every direction, he’ll throw it at the ground 5-yards behind him instead of trusting his receiver to make a play for the ball.

    Sücking is one thing, being too scared of the potential to fail is quite another. For McNabb, it just leads to a different way of failing, and if we’re going to lose, I’d rather see my QB fail by trying to make something happen.

  97. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    I wish I could get a refund on my Sunday Ticket. It would be a lot easier every Sunday to just sit down and set fire to 3 ten-dollar bills.

  98. By VegasVike on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Favre could play better than McNabb in a wheelchair.

  99. By Tfunk2 on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    t-jack is playing better than mcnabb

    seahawks 1- 3
    vikes 0 – 4

    and it hurts me to write this…

  100. By Purples05 on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    I find the comments about McNabb amusing. I’ll tell you what…this article will be irrelevant if Berrian starts on Sunday. He has 2 catches on 16 targets. Why does McNabb seem to do okay with all the others? He’s starting to connect with Rudolph, Shiancoe, Aromashodu, and Harvin. And Jenkins especially(who is ignored in this article).

    They should be our starters…NOT BERRIAN. Funny that people know our O-line is suspect and Berrian is suspect, but McNabb gets ALL the blame

  101. By Purples05 on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Vegasvike…hmm interesting? You mean the Favre who fumbled and intercepted every chance he got last year? Righhht…..

  102. By Purples05 on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Parody…you can’t have it both ways. We…and especially Frazier stress not turning the ball over and throwing the ball into too tight coverage. How many times have we seen double or triple coverage and then said bad throw? McNabb got a lot of heat for that in Washington…seems like he can’t win

    McNabb may not have the same cliche attitude of the average athlete…but to say he doesn’t care is a bit of a stretch. For as long as I’ve known McNabb has always been a good study of the game and has played through many injuries. The only difference is that unlike many fans and players…he doesn’t make it so personal. A lot of you make this thing personal over a football game by calling some of these players names and hating them. If you think he should be replaced fine, but unless he’s being a bad person I never understood the character attacks

  103. By Shawn on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Purple 05 … i havent see triple let alone double coverage yet , so ?

    Think about it Purple if a defense puts 8 in the box and there are 11 people on defense …. and berrian was double or triple covered, then 1 or 2 guys would be standing alone every play

    Berrian does not demand single coverage let alone double coverage …

    Come on man ….. get real

  104. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Purple05….Perhaps it’s just the fact that your typical, blue-collar, work-your-as$-off-for-$30k-a-year fan would like to see a little more passion from these vastly overpaid prima donnas, who, despite their hero status, continue to disappoint us week after week.

  105. By Parody on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Purples05 – I wasn’t asking for it both ways. I want to see our starting QB care enough to do what it takes to win. I don’t know why we should be comfortable that McNabb doesn’t make it personal. This isn’t just a game to him, it’s his career. How would your boss analyze you if you didn’t care about what you do? If you constantly failed at the most important part of your job and just shrugged it off because it doesn’t matter to you? This is what I see from McNabb, and I don’t like it.

    The type of person he is off the field doesn’t matter at all to me. I want to see a good player on the field. That is where my attacks are focused, whether they be character, skill or otherwise.

  106. By Purples05 on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Shawn, even Michael Lombardi has commented that the receivers on many occasions have failed to create separation and get open. You might as well be throwing into double coverage if that’s the case, but the topic was about making risky throws. McNabb would be getting based plenty for that too

    And Berrian is terrible no matter the coverage

  107. By Purples05 on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    NovaScotiaVike….Football players are entertainers and you know what else? Owners, television stations, and marketing agencies make way more money from them than they could ever hope.

    So let’s stay on topic. Football players get paid a certain amount. You want to be paid that much? Dedicate your life to it and hopefully have some talent. That’s why they’re paid the big bucks

  108. By Pud Grand on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    News item from the near future:
    “Ultimately, the deciding factor in the firing of Leslie Frazier was based upon his stubborn refusal to replace a washed-up, over-the -hill quarterback (McNabb) with either a rookie hopeful (Ponder), or a future project (Webb).”

  109. By Parody on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    You hit it on the nose Purples05. Football players are paid the big bucks because they “have some talent”. Unfortunately, to continue getting those big bucks, they have to continue to prove that they can make use of that talent. Many fans are aware that is not the case for a few members of our team, and we are speaking up about it. We only wish that the people making the decisions on this matter would act faster; either by motivating them to prove they still have NFL level talent, or by giving someone else on the team a chance to do the same.

  110. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    How’s this for staying on topic…..i am self-employed, semi-retired. I did, however, once have a boss. If I showed the attitude to my employer that McNabb shows to his, I would have been fired. I do my job, McNabb doesn’t.

  111. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    And after he fails to perform, he further detracts from his performance with his “ho-hum, I really don’t give a sh1t” attitude.

  112. By Parody on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    I’d love to help you decide whether or not that counts as staying on topic…but I’m having trouble defining the topic…wasn’t it about our WRs’ chances against AZ? Hmmm…

    I guess we’ve been off topic for a while…maybe we can just treat this like a conversation between humans and not try to confuse eachother with the idea of a phantom topic.

  113. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Our WR’s chances against Zona are slim to none, with McNabb being slim and Berrian being none.

  114. By Parody on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    LOL…and I never thought I’d be able to get a laugh at the ineptitude of our team.

  115. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Parody, it’s a first for me too, buddy.

  116. By Pablo jacques CASTRO on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    me gusta la actiud de todos ……………………. debemos de apoyar al equipo tenemos todas las de ganar………….. si perdemos LAZY FRAZIER is fired , and our rokie QB Ponder is going to play but if we win the next sunday we keep the hope….. and he LAZY frazier

    we have nothing to lose !! , we need win the next 12 games or 11 games


  117. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Pablo, I have spent some time in Mexico, Belize and Guatemala, I understand some of what you said and I really like the “Ponder” part.

  118. By BleedingPurpleinAlaska! on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    I think it is a bit too early to fire Frazier. Musgrave however is coming very close to needing a new job in my opinion. Now, if we are losing at halftime this week and our offensive is still stuck in the mud, and McNabb is still playing in third quarter then I too will be calling for a new coach.

    McNabb you have 1/2 a game to ingite this offensive or else you are running your supossed friend Frazier out of town by not admitting that your are ready for retirement.

  119. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    EXACTLY BPIA !!!!!!!

  120. By Viking Joe on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Who’s to say, Luck could end up being a Ryan Leaf, though I would like to think he’ll be better than that. 50-50.

  121. By Parody on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    I’d say Luck is more likely to be a Jamarcus Russell type of failure. He’s been hyped up so much in the past year or so that it can easily go to his head. Russell held out for about the first half of his rookie season, waiting for the big bucks to come in. When they did, he had a little bit of success, but they got lazy and overweight, and hasn’t played in the NFL for 2-years due mostly to his lack of work ethic.

    All this can easily happen to Luck, who appears to already have been annointed the Rookie of the Year for 2012…talk about inflating the ego early…

  122. By DelawareDan on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Come on Mike W and the rest of you ! This team stinks. I want the vikes to win as much as the rest of you, and I want to say the vikes have a chance. But lets be real. They will lose. Again.

    This team has zero motivation. I don’t see how this team beats Arizona.
    When the vikes are 0-5, Frazier better bench McBaby and play Ponder.
    If he doesn’t, Frazier is a fool. I thought Frazier could be the coach that gets this team in the right direction. But I have serious doubts.

  123. By Purples05 on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    And if an employee analogy is to be used for McNabb….then I’m not gonna say he isn’t “doing his job” when I hardly give him protection(O-line) and when I don’t surround him with an effective partner(Berrian). That is all I’m saying..I am not saying that he doesn’t have flaws. I am saying the criticism isn’t fair and balanced

    I mean come on…people want to fire Frazier already. That would have been like Cardinals fans wanting to fire Whisenhunt(they really did) because they wouldn’t put in Matt Leinart for Kurt Warner. Kurt Warner didn’t always do well for them…he struggled early and took 1-2 years on and off the bench until he broke out again

    And saying McNabb doesn’t have heart is ridiculous. He may not have the typical personality or body language, but the injuries he’s played through(He once threw 4 tds on a broken ankle) says plenty about his toughness and heart

  124. By Purples05 on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    McNabb may be done…but I at least want to see him with a deep threat and protection to dismiss him. The most successful Qbs get that much. Only the likes of Aaron Rodgers would be able to make due with what we have right now

  125. By minnysports on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    lets look @ this way for once o.k. Twins/Vikings/Gophers same starts not to impressive right they must be all using the same play book. minn. mens sports. now look @ lynx playing for championship women in sports hmmmm maybe draft females might have a chance then.

  126. By Parody on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Purples05 – How about the storied past that Favre has? All of that success back then must mean that he can still be successful now, right? Ditto with Dan Marino…

    What I’m getting at is that it’s in the past. These players USED to be good. Current facts indicate that this isn’t the case anymore. I’m not about to wait for perfect circümstances before writing McNabb off. We need to look to the future, whether that be with Ponder or Webb. It’s time they start learning how to lead the team on the field.

  127. By vikings4life on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Parody or Parody YOU fell into my trap i was hoping someone like you would say something soo smart not good argument huh? those were favre’s numbers in 2010 here are Rodgers 84 completions on 125 ATT for 940 yrds with 5 TDs and 5INTs through the first four weeks OH YEA HE’D BEEN IN THE SYSTEM FOR 6 YEARS!! LIKE ARE YOU KIDDING ME 6 YEARS wow, One more touchdown and 4 more INTS than what McNabb WHO’S BEEN IN THE SYSTEM FOR MONTHS!! Ihas yet the packers won the superbowl which just shows two things one parody is just that, A parody of a true fan one year you blame the O line then the next its the QB but the Oline has gotten older slower and we downgraded a tackle but yea its the Qb who has thrown only 2 INT. McNabb is not the problem FAVRE HAD BEEN IN BEVELLE’S SYSTEM FOR YEARS McNabb HAS NEVER EVEN MET MUSGRAVE BEFORE HE GOT HERE you think Favre could have ever gotten a twenty point lead last year NO WAY. This team is good you dont gain 20 point leads shut teams out for 30 min if your not dominant. The rest is a chess match played by the coordinators that is who is to blame our talent is there any true fan of football can see this we are moving chains and scoring points but its stops because we cant adapt our game plan to their 2nd half adjustments.

  128. By glennisi on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    If we have the #1 rushing offense in the league, and this is without using gerhart much, why would you not just run ap for 20 runs and gerhart for 15-18 per game? Would this not solve our ball control issue in the second half?and allow our playaction pass to be effective, rest defense(to not expose our def. Backfield), and to minimize our lack of aggresiveness in the second half. Our coaches can’t be this clueless…we found our strength..and are well aware of our weaknesses. Its basic strategy

  129. By Parody on Oct 7, 2011 | Reply

    Trap huh? You’re saying that you prefer a QB who keeps the ball out of the defense’s hands over one who finds a way to win. Sounds like a pretty shoddy trap to me. Look back to the 2008 season for a minute. Take note of Jackson’s stats. In his 5-starts, he had 79 completions of 138 attempts for 943 yards, 8 TDs and 2 INTs. He still lost 3 of those games. You don’t intend to argue that Jackson is of the same calibur as Rodgers, do you? Sometimes stats do a great job of hiding the truth.

    If the oline is worse this year, then why are sacks down, our yards per rush at the top of the league, and time in the pocket substantially increased?

    McNabb has been doing what he needs to for half a game. HALF a game. That’s been my argument the whole time. He completely caves in the second half. This is due to his diminishing skill just as much as the coaching. Something you need to learn is that in any failure, there is always going to be more than one entity responsible for it. McNabb is a big part of this, coaching is another, and Berrian sneaks in there as well. The o-line could be better, but it’s hard to complain when noticing the improvement from last year.

    McNabb was a stop-gap solution brought here to win NOW and run the show until the rookie is ready. The expectation was that he had enough NFL knowledge to succeed right away, and possibly take the team into the playoffs. Now, for all realistic hopes, that’s impossible. We reached with the first round pick for a QB because he was the most NFL ready. Well it’s time to show us just how ready he is. Keeping McNabb on board is not going to help the team. It’s time to start preparing for 2012, and the first thing we need to do is start preparing the QB with some gameday experience.

  130. By glennisi on Oct 8, 2011 | Reply

    The vikes will be either the great story of this season(only if they turn things around)…or the worst story of the season(due to all their potential with zero results). If they cannot beat the cardinals, they will be the groundhog of this year…staying in their safe little hole cuz they are scared of their own shadow..”Please santa, bring my vikings a heart”…or is that the wizard of oz? This team makes my head hurt :(

  131. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 8, 2011 | Reply

    Parody, A+ in debating.

  132. By thatissomeBS on Oct 8, 2011 | Reply

    I’ve always been a McOnehop fan, but this year is a bust. It’s time to play Ponder so everyone on ESPN can stop making the “McNabb pondering his future” joke. If Ponder comes in and the Vikes start winning we may have something. If he comes in and doesn’t show anything, we know Luck would be a good pick, because we will be in that position. Time to start looking towards the future.
    And the only thing I have to say about our receivers, I refuse to recognize the validity of the Hall of Fame until CC has his mug on a shelf in Canton. He could still outplay Bernard Butterfingers.

  133. By thatissomeBS on Oct 8, 2011 | Reply

    And Parody has become my favorite commenter. Good logic mixed with necessary sarcasm.

  134. By xTruthx on Oct 8, 2011 | Reply

    Why would ANYONE suggest Randy Moss? Did you see him play last year? Ball dropped near his foot that he DIDN’T try to catch that would have been a TD because there was a flag? Did you see him continually catch a ball and go down, or quickly outta bounds to not get hit? Did you NOT see him have what was it 4 catches in 3 games? The answer is NOT Randy Moss, the answer is X Mcnabb, and bring in a WR who will work his butt off, will NOT give up on plays, and will run EVERY route. If you want a headcase, Terrell Owens would make me feel much better then Randy “Play when I wanna play” Moss. And thats straight cash homie…

  135. By Noah on Oct 8, 2011 | Reply

    Parody i have to agree i think Luck is going to be a huge bust!! all though i do like Matt Barkley from USC he is so good and maybe if the vikings in on or two years can get a first rounder take Robert Woods he’ll be our #1 WideOut and disarm huge name defenses like the jets and steelers. Vikings right now should bring in T.O. if he can put up 939 Yards and 9 TD’s we can win at least 7 Games. Fraizer i would call T.O. he will understand and maybe release Barrian or trade him away for a first round or second round pick?

  136. By Zach on Oct 8, 2011 | Reply

    Why are we not seeing more of Kyle Rudolph? It was play for a loss last week, but on an outlet pass from a running Mcnabb that through the ball 5′ behind him, he makes an adjustment and 1 handed catch as good as anyone in the league. He a huge athletic TE, I just can’t believe he only has 7 receptions. Throw him the ball and let him go to work!!

  137. By ERicVue on Oct 8, 2011 | Reply

    I want to see some more of Rudolph and Jenkings! Get rid of butter finger BB!

  138. By ERicVue on Oct 8, 2011 | Reply

    0-5 here we come! woot woot! who sucks the vikings does!

  139. By vikefanforlife on Oct 8, 2011 | Reply

    START PONDER hes is more athletic he can make it through a hole game unlike donnavonn mcnabb thats why we are good in the first half!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  140. By CanadianVF on Oct 8, 2011 | Reply

    Randy Moss was a great pick and I enjoyed his play for the Vikings during the Carter years with him. But that ship has sailed, please get over it. Since Sidney Rice decieded to leave the number one priority for next years draft is a number one recieviing deep threat. Jenkins was never used as a number one reciever on his last team because that is not his skill set. He is being used properly with his skills in this offense.

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  142. By RWF1984 on Oct 8, 2011 | Reply

    I wonder why this is a hot topic? Man, the Cardinals defense may be prone to passing plays that doesn’t mean McNabb can hit the WR’s! It only goes to show you if McNabb cannot get a great game against a defense that he should, then I guess the cry for Ponder will be even louder! Knowing that they even came out with this subject means that the Vikings should be “expecting” a good game from McNabb, so if he does like he has been doing, does this mean he is getting benched for sure?

  143. By Purples05 on Oct 9, 2011 | Reply

    Parody…sacks are down because McNabb has escaped pressure. Yes….despite his age he has done plenty of that. But he keeps having to rush his throws

    McNabb has always been on the hot seat…his entire career he has. So although he may in fact be done…I need proof. There are players in NFL history who have had great years in their later years

  144. By Billy on Oct 10, 2011 | Reply

    1 good movw with BB out. McBad should be next. I would relly like to see Joe webb in before Ponder. Let Ponder sit and watch all year but get him a few packages to run if way ahead or way behind. Webb has some game experiance and lets see if he continues to grow. If he is good and Ponder is good we will be in great shape with to running quarterbacks because easy to get hurt. That way we have a solid backup. There are to many teams that get there quarterback hurt and do not have a good backup.

  145. By billbobagons on Oct 11, 2011 | Reply

    With The Lions looking so good and needing a Big running back why don’t we try trading Toby that he is used so little and we have Booker. We could get a O line or D line in trade. The other thing with the D end we have with Allen, B Rob and Emerson and with Kevin and the other Tackles maybe we should think about the wide 9 D with the linebacker and corners we have. Philly try’s but the linebackers are not good enough or corners not physical enough to run that system. But I believe the Viks have the personal to run that system and get a lot more sacks.

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