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Shiancoe, Rudolph Emerge In Passing Game

Posted by Mike Wobschall on October 4, 2011 – 8:23 am

Head Coach Leslie Frazier said on Monday that, after watching tape of last weekend’s game with his entire coaching staff, he feels the Vikings are “on the verge of getting things headed in the right direction.” It’s not an easy thing for fans to hear after the disappointing start to the season, but it will be interesting to see if Frazier is indeed correct when the Vikings return to Mall of America Field for a game against the Arizona Cardinals this Sunday.

Beyond citing the fact that this weekend’s game is at home, Frazier didn’t go into specifics for why he felt a turnaround was in store for his team. But one reason I have to believe Frazier feels improvement is imminent is that we finally saw the Vikings get their TEs involved in the passing game. Both Kyle Rudolph and Visanthe Shiancoe were factors in the passing game against Kansas City, and hopefully that will prime the pump for Donovan McNabb going forward.

Shiancoe had his best outing of the season against Kansas City, hauling in 6 receptions for 56 yards; he had just 4 receptions for 36 yards and a TD over the first 3 games of the season. In addition, Rudolph caught 3 passes for 44 yards, giving the TE duo more than half of the team’s production from pass catchers.

More important than just the sheer numbers for Shiancoe and Rudolph were the situations in which McNabb leaned on them. McNabb favored Shiancoe on critical downs, as the two hooked up for two completions on 3rd downs and another on 4th down. In fact, all 6 of Shiancoe’s receptions resulted in 1st downs.

Also, McNabb found Rudolph down the left sideline for 41 yards when the Vikings were backed up on their own 15-yardline early in the 2nd quarter. That drive ended in a turnover, but until that point Rudolph’s long reception looked to be the key play in what would become a scoring drive that would’ve increased the Vikings lead to double digits.

Click here to watch a video highlight of Rudolph’s catch.

It’s a negative situation to start the season 0-4, but in looking for a bright spot here and there you can’t help but notice the improvement from Shiancoe and Rudolph in the passing game. It will be interesting to see how Arizona defends this aspect of the Vikings offense, and what other areas of the Vikings offense will open up as a result.


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145 Responses to “Shiancoe, Rudolph Emerge In Passing Game”

  1. By Amish Viking on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Mike,
    If they lose on Sunday…Let me guess the press conference on Monday…

    Frazier…” I am really excited”..” I think we are on the verge of the verge of turning this thing around about 360 degrees”.

  2. By Woodboat on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Ponder

  3. By Animal26 on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Amish viking, it’s when we lose Sunday, not if.

  4. By Woodboat on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    If we had a QB that could write “Accurate Passer” on his resume, this thing wouldn’t need to be turned around… we’d already be doing well. McNabb can’t hit his receivers in stride and there is no excuse for that other than his lack of ability.

  5. By Woodboat on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Quite sputtering and make the change, Frazier. If you won’t do it, hopefully Zygi will… soon.

    Ponder

    -or-

    Ponder and Cowher

  6. By CA_Viking_fan on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    A team “plays like they practice”. The turnaround begins at practice, not games. To me, it’s the coaches in the hot seat. In particular, a certain Offensive Coordinator. Keep up the hard work Kyle Rudolph. It shows that you are busting your tail. Don’t let up.

  7. By Amish Viking on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    You do get the feeling that the coach is covering for Mcnabb. You can’t hide the fact that if we had a QB that was more accurate that we could of won 1 or 2 of those games. McNabb might get a little better but the telling sign is his total passing yards. He has not thrown for more than 230yds in a game. You could live with that if your runniing game was getting you more yards. We need a down field threat. Give the CFL guy a try and make him change his last name to one I can spell.

  8. By hippster on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    it does’nt matter anymore this season is shot L,F stands for F ‘n loser wow this guy sucks, the way a team plays is a direct reflection of their ? thats right their COACH don’t be affraid to say it .you suck

  9. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    My life is sunshine, lollipops and rainbows,
    That’s how this refrain goes, so come on, join in everybody!

  10. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    That’s how the 0-15 press conference will go, “I think we are really close to getting things turned around this season I’m really excited about what our guys are doing and just looking forward to our next game”

  11. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    “Beyond citing the fact that this weekend’s game is at home”……Well, at least we got that part right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  12. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Eerily similar to last year’s “Lots of football left to be played”.

  13. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Amish Viking…..Give the CFL guy a try and give McNabb and Berrian a try in the CFL.

  14. By DAveJr on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    It seems that I may see a fantasy story evolving here. Head coach and QB seem to be having some sort of football affair. They love each other more than winning. Ponder is going to get a chance because daddy/ owner/gm wont let the coach and qb date anymore. Ponder will destroy teams and the vikes will finally play something like they should. McNabb retires at the end of this season. Does anyone think Frazier will cry….. I will be crying sunday as Mcnabb leads us to another loss.. I should just watch soap opera’s.

  15. By Pinebrigade on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    It all makes sense now… have two straight horrible drafts, two has been gap holds, throw the team to the cellar of the NFC North. = Andrew Luck.

  16. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    “The Viking tight ends have more than half of the teams production from pass catchers”……..see following post to help understand why………

  17. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Let’s look at this another way…….If my math is correct……this means, with 31 other teams in the league and Berrian, with his lofty 249th-best receiving position…..Yep, that means that, on average, EVERY TEAM IN THE NFL HAS 8 PLAYERS WITH MORE RECEPTIONS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  18. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    “hopefully that will prime the pump for Donovan McNabb going forward.”—There is not enough industrial lubricant in the state of Minnesota to fix that seized-up pump.

  19. By Troutdaddy on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Yeah- I was waiting to hear all the negativity this week. I knew people would again throw everyone under the bus. 0 and 4 is not where any of us fans want to be- believe me, most of my family ar 49er’s fans and they have rubbed my face in it all week. Well, I am hoping (because that is all we can do as fans right now) that Frazier can turn this team around. There is notone fix here, there are several areas that need work. QB is one of them. If McNabb doesn’t get it done this week, then our coaching staff would be foolish not to give Ponder a ahot. Our freakin O’line needs to help out here. Most importantly, our pass-defense needs to be tighter and deliberate in their attack. Too many people playing tentative. So, to all of you whiny babies who have thrown the Vikes into the proverbial garbage can, don’t let the tailgate hit your butt on the way out. We who are true fans- win or lose will still be around taking our shots along with the team. I Bleed Purple…. Nuf said…

  20. By Jeffbleedspurple on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    I just read rumor that Ziggy is pushing for McNabb to be benched, I sure want to believe that rumor!

  21. By Amish Viking on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Ponder VS McNabb

    Ponder Pro’s
    Youth, Speed, DESIRE, IS 0-0, The Unknown potential, College played well

    McNabb(20011 version)
    Experience, gets a verge better each week, Can throw the ball really low to keep from getting intercepted, Sorry can’t think of any more pro’s.

  22. By Bigfan1 on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    I wonder if the Vikings are last this year if they’ll stick to their philosophy and pick the best player, which might be Luck?

  23. By Jeffbleedspurple on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    NO! they will do the same thing they did in 09 and trade down! bet my life on it.

  24. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Troutdaddy, I believe that it is management, or to be more precise, the lack of management, NOT THE FANS, who have thrown the Vikings into the “proverbial garbage can”.

  25. By Amish Viking on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    If you start Ponder it needs to be now. To give him the best chance he needs to have a start at home and against a team that we have a shot at beating. Next week on a Monday night in Chicago is not the answer. Don’t make him play Green Bay at home. Do like the idea of putting Webb in as a bridge to bring Ponder in later.

  26. By Bigfan1 on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Most people including coaches and players can keep saying the reason for 0-4 is a lot of different factors not just the QB of course they’d say that to protect McNabb, but look at the Colts without Manning, classic example on how a missing leader can unravel a team. We need a leader. Favre unfortunately only did it one year, imagine having the 09 type of leader every year. You can’t tell me that the players all went sour in one or two years time, cmon man, it’s the QB.

  27. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    This would indeed be a sad world if we, the fans, who pay these player’s, coaches and management’s salaries through ticket purchases, merchandise (and in my case also television fees), cannot express our displeasure in the team’s performance.

  28. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    The “proverbial garbage can” beat us 10 days ago, at home, 26-23 in OT.

  29. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Then we lost to the Kansas City dumpsters.

  30. By Viking Joe on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Can the Vikings secondary stop Fitzgerald? Will Cook be exclusively covering him? If or rather when the Vikings lose, will it be Ponder time?

  31. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    So even if frazier isn’t going to replace mcnabb, hope he looks at the tape and realizes he should start Love instead of Johnson, Burton/Sherels instead of griffin, and raymond instead of either of our terrible safeties and any receiver in the entire league over BB

  32. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Twoodsnvikes…….not any receiver in the entire league, just 1 out of 250.

  33. By Woodboat on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    @Amish Viking…. I think the CFL dude got cut. Aromashadu is from the Bears.

  34. By Woodboat on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    John Clayton said on Mike and Mike (ESPN Radio) that he thinks Ponder starting is still or 4 weeks away.

  35. By the_sheriff on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Time for a real coach – Brian Billick

    Player coaches suck – the coach shouldn’t be the players buddy.

    The coach and players need to be held accountable – they are given way too much leeway.

    We are talking millions of millions of dollars. Now possible blackout. And whether it makes sense or not this is effecting the push for a new stadium.

    I don’t know what job you could keep in the real world and make so many costly mistakes and keep your job like this…

  36. By Meekay on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    They’re just realizing that Rudolph and Shank are good recievers? Really?!

  37. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    I agree on the insanity analogy: doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, I haven’t noticed any real notable changes in scheme/playcalling/personnel over the last few games and even worse discipline so better see some changes this week

  38. By Twoodsnvikes on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    @Meekay: 4 years and counting that they haven’t realized BB ISNT

  39. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    GOOD ONE Twoodsnvikes !

  40. By ozzinator on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    but what about the 49 yd field goal?

  41. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Can’t “downplay” that!

  42. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    If, (God forbid), this team ever did move to L.A., Wobschall could follow it and have no problem lining up a career at TMZ.

  43. By Alex on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    McNabb is a bad influence on Ponder. He’s not showing him how to be a franchise QB at all. I bet Ponder could use Shiancoe and Rudolph in the passing game 100000 times better than McNabb.

  44. By Rocksalt on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Gee Willkers Fellas……… why focus on the negative? Just whistle a happy tune.

  45. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    McNabb is teaching him valuable lessons in the fine art of sucking.

  46. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Rock, right on……Sunshine, lollipops and……..

  47. By Troutdaddy on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    @ NovaScotia Mike…. Wow looks like you liked my garbage can comment. I hear what you are saying, and I am not completely disagreeing. I just don’t feel that finger-pointing is going to help. The Vike’s have the players they have and they need to figure out a way to make them work. We can’t go back and say “Do -over” in our draft and we can’t let 0 and 4 results dictate how we will finish the season. Those who think the season is over are idiots. Do you honestly think “Lack of Management” is the goal of our coaches? That they are the one’s causing the issues? They are trying to find what works. This team is in the middle of rebuilding their chemistry and the flux they are going through right now will eventually pay off. Who knows, we may have to go 0 and 6 before things get figured out. Feel free to express your displeasure in the teams performance- that is fine, but give them a chance too. We (especialy me) are not the coaches and as much as we would like to “Put Ponder in” or “Fire our offensive coordinator” as fans we have to sit back and watch the show. AND while I am watching- I for one would rather keep my cup as half full. I think I just get sick of hearing people trash everything and everyone. I have been that person before and in the end, my team still didn’t win and it just made me grouchy.So, Skol Vikes, and bleed purple…

  48. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Troutdaddy….you got everything right there except my name LOL !

  49. By Mike B on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    @Woodboat The CFL WR is on the practice squad. Check Rooster in the Team section.

  50. By Mike B on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    ok maybe roster is better than the Rooster

  51. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Mike B……….I looked up Rooster in the team section and it said “see Childress”.

  52. By Rocksalt on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    I think it is good to hear both sides fans hoping and fans grumbling……..I just do not get the “eternally insanely optimistic ” stance. Be realistic either way….

  53. By VegasVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Maybe the coaches could teach the receivers and tight ends how to catch with their feet, that would solve half the problems.

  54. By Rocksalt on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Also, there is a good amount of humor……along with anger, frustration, confusion, exasperationj.

  55. By Rocksalt on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    we are 0-4 people.winning would cheer everyone up and give us hope.

  56. By VegasVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Rock- I looked up “internally insanely optimistic” and it said “see Titus”

  57. By VegasVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    So in the next game every 3rd down Shank will be ultra covered and McN won’t have anywhere to go. PREDICTABLE, the cards are watching the tapes too guys, someone tell Must Grave

  58. By DRS on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Can anyone say 0-5?

    12 games to the end of the season, will it be the end of the Vikings?

    On track to a 0-16 season, how fun this is.

  59. By DRS on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Coaches + Mc-Loser = one more game lost, one more game closer to a Vikings move.

  60. By VegasVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Maybe they can build a new stadium out of lego’s at legoland in mall of America

  61. By Troutdaddy on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Lol… Sorry NovaScotiaVIKE…. I am such a putz… Lol @ Rocksalt…for your “Titus” comment… All I can say is that while reading this blog every day, I count myself fortunate to hang out occasionally in this blog with you all. It gives me fule for the next game and heals my purple bleeding heart…

  62. By Troutdaddy on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    oops typo… Fuel, not fule…. Learn to spell will you!!!

  63. By aaron rogers on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    why do the vikings suck so much at life?

  64. By VegasVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Me too Trout, the best part is when an opposing team fan gets on here and we all trash him, that’s my favorite part! Gives us unity

  65. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Looks like a Packer fan has emerged from his swamp!

  66. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Come on Erin, let’s have a battle of wits.

  67. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    He must have burrowed back down.

  68. By jdude on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Look if we were to get another coach can we bring back Mike Tice. He was almost done rebuilding this team after Green ruined it. Then you bring in Chillie who just makes it bad again. We might not have even needed Favre then. Then they would already have a super bowl under there belts. Then the Packers would never have won this year.

  69. By VegasVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Swamp? Is that Lamebo Swamp? that’s that place that has the Brett Favre Steakhouse and a street named after Brett? I hear you can drive your house to the parking lot there and tailgate with all the other trailer park trash

  70. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Come on back anytime and chat, you gutless, spineless, cheese-worshipping little dung beetle.

  71. By MG on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Arizona will shorten the field and dare McNabb and Berrian to connect on a deep route. They may give up a few big plays, maybe even a halftime lead – but a Vikings offense that couldn’t outscore the Chiefs certainly isn’t scaring the Cardinals.

    Also, for those who believe opposing defenses are irrelevant because the Vikings are beating themselves: penalties and small mental/execution errors are the hardest things to fix. Why? Because they’re a result of the way players think and innate skills in the heat of the game – in other words, it’s the difference between good and bad players. The bad players can watch tape and practice until the cows come home, but come game time, it will be the same old story.

  72. By jdude on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Why are you stupid cheese heads come over to site when you have got you’re own. Do you want to be Vikings fans or what.

  73. By jdude on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Sorry Why do you.

  74. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    They come on here because school’s out and mother weasel hasn’t come home yet with today’s fresh roadkill.

  75. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Sorry, i forgot it’s Wisconsin….”.Roadkill avec fromage”.

  76. By DRS on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.aspx?player_id=209

    We need a QB like Fran Tarkenton, with a O-Line like this years we need fran like QB!

  77. By DRS on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    At the time of his retirement, Fran owned every significant passing record – 3,686 pass completions, 47,003 passing yards, and 342 touchdowns. But particularly in his early years, Tarkenton attracted widespread attention as an exciting scrambler who took plays from sideline to sideline. Add his 3,674 yards rushing to his stunning passing totals and you have 50,677 yards – almost 29 miles or 500 football fields – of offensive progression. Yet Tarkenton was also a “quality” passer as his 80.4 passing rating that placed him in the upper echelon in that category demonstrates.

  78. By DRS on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Fran please come back and teach our young QB’s, please.

  79. By rye on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    The vikings will have to start ponder if they want to avoid blackouts. It’s the only way they will sell seats. Most fans are tired of Mcnabb.

    This is the exact song and dance that happened in Washington last year.

  80. By jdude on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Than how bout we put Webb or Ponder in.

  81. By DRS on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    In Minnesota’s four Super Bowl seasons (1969, 1973, 1974, 1976) they won seven of eight meetings with the Packers. Bud Grant went 22-14-1 against the Packers as Vikings coach.

  82. By DRS on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Fran & Bud please come back and help the Vikings! Please.

  83. By jdude on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    You’re point.

  84. By jdude on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Guy’s threir to senile to play or coach football anymore.

  85. By jdude on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Sorry again I meant their.

  86. By DRS on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Can anyone say 0-5 and 12 games to a Vikings move? Please, please, Vikings call Bud and Fran before it is too late! Hope is fading in Minnesota!

  87. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Bud Grant still holds a position in the Viking’s front office and Tarkenton is a millionaire several times over. I doubt either one of them could be considered “senile”.

  88. By DRS on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    jdude, they are better the anything we have now!!!!!!!!!!

  89. By jdude on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Bet Fran Breaks his back.

  90. By DRS on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Oops, that should have been then not the. Sorry.

  91. By jdude on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Dude just because someone has a lot of money doesn’t mean their not senile.

  92. By meswant on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    is it a bad sign when you head coach sits in his closet, watchs tape of our o-line & starts drooling cause he can see how bad they suck & wishes he was on the other teams picking them appart?? Too bad he will not do anything to fix it!!!!

  93. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Have you heard him speak lately???? He has got more on the ball than most people !

  94. By DRS on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    jdude, Do I have to hold your hand, of course Fran could not be an QB, but he can teach our young QB’s. He and Bud can get this team on the right track if they would take over the head coach’s job!!!!

  95. By jdude on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    meswant It’s hard to fix something in the middle of a season.

  96. By 3DONTHERADIO on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    @ Mike B. – Actually, I think “rooster” fits quite well ! They need something to wake them up !

  97. By meswant on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    I figured out why he still insists on mcuseless……he does NOT want to be like chilly & get rid of him like chilly did Moss…now, if chilly would have kept him & just stayed excited……

  98. By DRS on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Question, has there been a head coach of the MN Vikings with as many wins as Bud Grant, or a QB with as many wins as Fran?

  99. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    IS THIS TARKENTON??? I DON”T THINK SO………..: of, relating to, exhibiting, or characteristic of old age ; especially : exhibiting a loss of cognitive abilities (as memory) associated with old age…..Webster’s Dictionary

  100. By meswant on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    at any time during the 4 losses, he could have tryed to put a different o-line guy in there, sit bb & mcuseless, keep Harvin on the field instead of the sidelines….he could have tryed anything to fix this.

  101. By VegasVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    I don’t think Fran would be able to do what he did against today’s D’s. The game has changed too much. If you wanna bring back a successful QB who understands today’s game his number is 4.

  102. By Pack on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    All of you are sissies just bicker behind the computer and do gay talk to one another, your team sucks you have weak fans.

  103. By rye on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    One positive this season is that Michael Jenkins is a great #2 receiver.

    Vikings will be able to build on that…

    Good free agent/draft #1 receiver
    Jenkins solid #2 receiver
    Harvin dominate slot receiver

    AP – dominate running back

    Vikings need to start Ponder now to see if he’s the real deal. If he is, they will be able to draft for OL, Safety, and CB positions.

    Not only that. There is still slight hope for this season. If the Vikings can get a spark and win the next few games. HIGHLY doubtful they get it from Mcnabb and his accuracy problems. Ponder or Webb is Frazier’s only hope to turn the season around and he seems to be too stupd/loyal to Mcnabb to realize it.

  104. By Pack on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    I’ve never seen such a warm cuddly sausage fest old gay men in here.

  105. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    VegasVike, I wasn’t pushing for Tark to come back as coach or any other position(he’s too smart to get involved in that). I just hate it when people throw words around when they have no clue as to what their meaning is.

  106. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    How many sausage fests have you seen then Fudgepacker?

  107. By 3DONTHERADIO on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Though I wouldn’t mind seeing Ponder, I think our biggest problem on offense is the O-line. K.C. had given up tons of rushing yards before Sunday, but our O-line made their defensive front look like the Steelers or Ravens defense.

  108. By SoCalVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    And we still have our 5 division losses to go,nice! Look at Dalton doing a decent job in Cincy getting needed experience,Ponder’s upside is much greater so let’s give the young gun his shot!

  109. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Stick around P3ckerfan, we’ll have a chat.

  110. By 3DONTHERADIO on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    @ Pack – hey fella, your mom’s coming to put you to bed. Better hurry up and get off of HER computer !

  111. By VegasVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    I’m sorry Mrs Pack you don’t like our conversations, if I were you I would find something constructive to do on your own. Or do you find being a pompous fool to your liking? Maybe you should talk your c r a p on the Lions site before they trounce your a$$.

  112. By Canadian Vikes Fan on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    I don’t see how any Viking fan can not want Frazier fired. The Jaguars benched Luke McCown for their rookie after 2 games and he WON ONE OF THEM, while McNabb is 0-4 with the 31st ranked passing offence and they stick with him? Oh okay well give Leslie the benefit of the doubt because he’s a defensive specialist. Oh wait our defence is one of the worst in the league and got shredded by a team that didn’t get a first down until the 3rd quarter the week before. Hmm lets see, pitiful offence, defence that can’t stop anyone, frustrated fan base, 1st round QB waiting in the wings while other rookie QBs are having decent success… yeah, better keep playing McNabb.

  113. By 3DONTHERADIO on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    @ rye – good analysis !

  114. By VegasVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Nova- sunshine, rainbows, unicorns, lobster and showgirls

  115. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Bring your cheese to Atlanta, they will shove it up your as$, not like you haven’t experienced something like that before.

  116. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Sorry Vegas, you’re right!

  117. By Canadian Vikes Fan on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    If McNabb’s play so far is at a level that Frazier accepts as good enough then I’m truly scared for the team with him in charge.

  118. By 3DONTHERADIO on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    @ VegasVike – don’t forget the kool-aid. There’s plenty of that going around as well !

  119. By DRS on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    VegasVike, I think any player from the 60′s and 70′s can do better than any players of today’s players, (That would be if the players were of the same age). Today’s players are overpaid and unable to play in true football conditions, Too soft and spoiled like all the Green bay fans who transfer there gayness on to others. Now the toughest players I think were the football players from the 50’s, with their leather helmets and such. That was when games were won in the trenches, with all that blood and broken noses, the way the game was meant to be played, not this almost flag football they play now.

  120. By Justin F on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    It’s time for Coach Frazier to take responsiblity for where this team is headed. We’ve shown promise but yet we keep losing. Frazier needs to admit that he’s the one to turn this team around, not McNabb. If Frazier doesn’t, we will head to a first ever 0-8 record at BYE.

  121. By Pack on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Can you say sausage fest fruitcakes in here full of old hairy men.

  122. By VegasVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Nova- I’m new to these blogs this year. Is it common for the facker fans to be cheesy and low class enough to blog on our site? Do adults really do that??

  123. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    It’s not too common, Vegas. You tend to get the P3ckerfans this time of year, gathering nuts, insects and other foodstuffs to take back to their swamps before they freeze over.

  124. By VegasVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Understand DRS, took your comment wrong. Hey Pack Fack, you’re not drunk. The tires on the left side of your house are low on air, that’s why you’re leaning left.

  125. By VegasVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Are there gators in the Wisconsin swamps? Or is that just the homeless?

  126. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Sometimes, if there is a January thaw, they will stick their heads up and hiss, then go back to f0rnicate with their sisters.

  127. By VegasVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Look man!! I’ve been in the tenth grade for three years now, I think I know what’s going on!!

  128. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    And brothers, uncles, aunts, grandmothers……anything that can’t outrun them.

  129. By DRS on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Has anyone noticed how the rules have changed to give the average player a chance to look better than he is? Like do not tackel our star players to hard, you may hurt them. Football was a t-u-f-f game and that was part of the lure of it, to see our version of a g-l-a-d-i-a-t-o-r s-p-e-c-t-a-c-l-e.

  130. By DRS on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    With Mc-loser in, I see the Vikings being 0-5 after Sunday. Please put ponder in now.

  131. By DRS on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Bless U-all and have a great day.

  132. By JT on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Sounds to me our coaches believe in the law of averages. If indeed the inevitable win comes along, expect the See, See, Sees to appear (See, I told you so …blah, blah, blah).

    The problems are a tired Qb, bad secondary, and exhausted personnel who are giving it their all the whole game.

  133. By Jeffbleedspurple on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    @ aaron rogers: You really suck at spelling Aaron Rodgers and I am a Vikings fans.

  134. By torinmadry on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    ponder or webb

  135. By NovaScotiaVike on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Jeff…..He can’t hear you, he’s chowing down on that Wisconsin favorite, “Roadkill avec Fromage”.

  136. By Purples05 on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    The backup always sounds better to people…I bet if Ponder or Webb was in there people would defend them talking about the O-line and Berrian. McNabb is expected to just deal with it

    Just look at that play with Aromoshodu. You mean to tell me that if we had better protection we wouldn’t see more plays like that? Perfect pass….perfect catch…it was a great play. I would love to see Aromoshodu replace Berrian. Most of McNabb’s misfires are to Berrian, that’s a fact

  137. By Vikings1 on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    I like your suggestion, the_sheriff, on Brian Billick. When he was the OC for the Vikings in 1998, they set a record for points scored and I agree he would be a great addition as the new Vikings coach. It seems to me that the owners are not commited to winningotherwise why would they let this fiasco continue with McBadd.

  138. By Adam on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    Rudolph has sticky fingers, he should have atleast 12 targets a game he catches anything.

  139. By klwedge on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    BOO FRAZIRE BOO FRAZIRE BOO FRAZIRE BOO FRAZIRE
    BOO FRAZIRE BOO FRAZIRE BOO FRAZIRE BOO FRAZIRE …
    BOO MCNABB BOO MCNABB BOO MCNABB BOO MCNABB
    BOO MCNABB BOO MCNABB BOO MCNABB BOO MCNABB…

  140. By klwedge on Oct 4, 2011 | Reply

    a lot of money spent on a losing team i love just dont like the head coach or QB…

  141. By Carey on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    They are just now figuring out the Shiancoe is the key to the passing game? He’s always been the key! He was great in 2009 and then hardly used in 2010, likewise so far this year. Shiancoe is the most underused player and that’s been a mistake they should have figured out before now!

  142. By benchmcnabbnow on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    here we go again sticking with the old qb,,,, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009,2010,2011 wow how many starting qbs have we had? now look at rest of nfl packers rodgers, chargers river, falcons ryan, ravens flacco more recent lions stafford, tampa bay freeman and this year panthers newton bengals dalton, and we have our future on the bench!

  143. By benchmcnabbnow on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    lets take a poll who will stay a vikings fan if they move to LA?

    A) Yes
    B) No

  144. By vlad19 on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    Wobs speaks of the “positive” that was our TE production….. Yea! Still barely accounting for 100 yds between the TWO of them… YEAH… and no scores…. And his rhetorical remark about what will the Cards do to cover this new and emerging “weapon”…..

    They don’t have to do ANYTHING but zone it. They are NOT a danger, and they are a security blanket for McNabb cuz he is afraid to hold the ball for 3.5 seconds cuz the line is so bad, he KNOWS he will get tee-ed up. SO, he looks for quick dump passing game.

    So as lofty is this hope is, it is not a whole lot better than Bill Brown coming out of retirement and getting us 3 yds here and there…… The Vikings vaunted passing game! YEAH!

  145. By vlad19 on Oct 5, 2011 | Reply

    Fellow fans – watch Rodgers drop into his 7 step drop, set and hold, his line barely bends, they rotate stunts and don’t get fooled or “aced” by speed rush, and I have yet to see one get bull-rushed…. And this is a team with Ryan Grant as its principal RB….. Thye have 4 first tier receivers and STILL have the good sense to go out and draft ANOTHER WR talent in Cobb….. Packers deals or waives more talent than we dress each sunday.

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