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Henderson, Peterson Return To Practice; Sanford Added To Injury Report

Posted by Mike Wobschall on September 29, 2011 – 2:51 pm

Earlier today we discussed the role injuries could play in this week’s Vikings-Chiefs matchup, focusing mostly on the bad luck Kansas City has had with injuries but also touching on the fact that LB E.J. Henderson and RB Adrian Peterson both missed the week’s first practice on Wednesday.

All indications were that both Henderson and Peterson would be fine and available for Sunday, and now there are more positive indications after Thursday’s practice. Both Henderson (knee) and Peterson (calf) were full participants in practice.

A pair of starters in the secondary remained limited participants for Kansas City, with CB Brandon Flowers battling an ankle injury and S Jon McGraw dealing with a shin ailment.

Others news on the Vikings injury report included S Jamarca Sanford being added with a thigh injury; he was a full participant, however. CBs Asher Allen (toe) and Chris Cook (groin) were full participants, DT Kevin Williams (foot) was a full participant and both S Tyrell Johnson (hip) and TE Jim Kleinsasser (elbow) were limited.


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162 Responses to “Henderson, Peterson Return To Practice; Sanford Added To Injury Report”

  1. By Parody on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Hopefully Kleinsasser’s injury gives the coaches more conviction to throw Rudolph in on more plays. Nothing against Jim, but he’s not the receiving TE that the plays have been calling for.

  2. By Spencer on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Question: Who Do you guys have the most faith in with guarding Dwayne Bowe: Cedric Griffin or Chris Cook?

  3. By James on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Hope to see the vikes play more 3-4 drop back everson griffen more he seems to be doing all right covering downfield, maybe give larry dean more playing time also in the 3 lineman dropping back your linebackers in the mix. Lets get hybrid on defense, I saw some 3-4 alignments last week hope to see more this time.

  4. By Oni on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    the defense needs to step up and not be a first half team and not play 4 quarters of football. donovan Mcnabb is messing up the offense with his horrible arm and vision that he needs to improve on very badly. The cikings drafted a wuarterback for a reason because they needed one so get to work and use the QB that you drafted wisely

  5. By Rocksalt on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    whatever……..lots of fluff on this website

  6. By Rocksalt on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    unicorns and rainbows…………

  7. By Rocksalt on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    YUAY! GO TEAM!!!!!!!!!YAY!!!!!!!

  8. By mr smiff on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Umm, I know this is offtopic, but this has been nagging me for the last hour or so. Apparently the Vikings coaching staff has been wanting McNabb to work on his mechanics, release point and footwork. So far McNabb has refused. He doesn’t think he needs to work on anything. Some questions:
    1. If his fundamentals are as bad as all that, why is he “mentoring” Ponder?

    2. McNabb has been showing himself to be something of an erratic p@sser, whereas Ponder’s main selling point has been his accuracy. Again, why is he “mentoring” Ponder?

    3. During his time with the Redskins, it was rumored that McNabb was either unwilling or unable to learn the Shanahan’s offense. Now this. Coincidence or a disturbing trend of uncoachability from McNabb?

    Just some questoins I’m (insert too-easy pun here)ing. Thoughts, anyone?

  9. By Twoodsnvikes on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Chris cook for sure, cedric 5uck5

  10. By mr smiff on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    “questions”

  11. By Rocksalt on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Needing to teach mechanics to a 13 year veteran QB????????????REALLY????????????????

  12. By Rocksalt on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    GET RID OF MCNABB

  13. By mr smiff on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Yeah. Really.

  14. By Billy on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    A few more thoughts. This year is almost gone but there is a small chance if they turn it around starting with the quarterback. sorry to say Mcbads great days are way way behind him. Start Webb and see if he has it as a quarterback and let Ponder sit and learn. If Webb falters do not let him be waisted with all his talent and get him working has a reciever in place of BB and as the Blazer quarterback on some packages. Lets get Toby on the field more as a additional slot reciever. Line up Harvin, Toby, Kyle, Shanko wand Peterson in the backfield. Lets get all are most talent players on the field all together. O ya and start the rookie and secound yesr O line guys. On Devence get Larry Dehn in there to nutralize the other teams tightend with his speed and smarts. Also he can blitz. Then lets get the young secondary guys in there to develope for next year. With a good draft and the experiance this year for the young players we might be on our way for a great team for the future. The Viking fans are faithful and will stick with the team if they make the canges to show there going to do what they can to build this team toward being good next year. With a good solid draft and free agency a wide ricever,OT, and LB, and backup at other position sould set us up really nice for the long haul. What do you all think?

  15. By Rocksalt on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    time to change something,,,,,,,,,,,

  16. By Rocksalt on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    bench mcnabb………….

  17. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    If McEgo were to admit his mistakes, I would have a lot more respect. If you read the articles (not in the blog, but above the blogs on the home page), Dave Campbell tells it like it is– he says what we all saw in the presser– McNabb does not like the thought of his fundamentals being criticized. Really? We all watched the TV.

  18. By Rocksalt on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Bench Mcnabb

  19. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    This game is where he can prove he is all that– otherwise, expect Ponder by mid- third quarter. Mr Smiff made some excellent points about mentorship.

  20. By Rocksalt on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    BENCH MCNABB NOW!……….NO MORE LOSER WASHED UP QB PROJECTS!

  21. By Rocksalt on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    NO MORE DILLY DALLYING……..BENCH MCNABB! NOW!

  22. By Rocksalt on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    NO MORE WAFFLING!!!!!!!!!BENCH MCNABB NOW!!!!

  23. By Rocksalt on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    GROW SOME AND MAKE THE CALLL VIKES COACHES!

  24. By Rocksalt on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Carpe Diem!!!!!!!!

  25. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Watch Ponder go out and play magnificently. I hope, for McNabb personally, that our starter can win the next few– he does play well the first half- why don’t we change QBs at halftime for every game?

  26. By paul on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Frazier should have played McNabb along with his receiving core the majority of the pre-season snaps, what better way for a new QB. and his receivers to get in-sink with each other.

  27. By NJVikingsFan on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Just viewed Musgrave’s presser…all I have to say is expect more of the same this week against the Chiefs…UGHHHHH.

  28. By NJVikingsFan on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Einstein (not a dumb guy) said you can’t expect to solve a problem using the same thinking that created it…Pay attention Vikings management & coaching staff!

  29. By James on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Might as well play all the backups atleast they did a better job than the starters, shows in preseason. Maybe give sherals some playing time he’s proven he can get the job done why are you shelving him frazier? all I hear is praises everyone is doing good in his press conferences. Really maybe that is why the players are not improving because there is always praise and players feel like they don’t need to improve.

  30. By VegasVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Mr Sniff, to sum up your questions about McNabb? = MISTAKE
    STAKE HIM NOVA!!

  31. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Was getting McNabb a bad idea?……..I’D STAKE HIS LIFE ON IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  32. By Shawn on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    @Titus … That Dave Cambell article was nice to read … people actually have identified problems and even quotes from coaches that actually give me the idea said problems are being worked on

    Specifically McNabb and Berrian

  33. By Shawn on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    i guess the real rainbow and lolipop story should be McNabb might lead us to the best LT in the draft in the first round and with a high 2nd rounder maybe we could get the 6’4″ WR from Iowa Marvin McNutt

  34. By Shawn on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

  35. By VegasVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    If McN loses to KC I say we double STAKE him

  36. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Shawn, I am sure the coaches are well aware of what the bloggers are complaining about– they are not stupid– and they do this for a living. They also know it does no good to publicly criticize players or tell other teams you are so worried about your team

    Personally, I find it humorous some of the bloggers saying the players should not be praised for what they have done right. How many of you have grown in motivation when someone nags you or criticizes you? How many of you respond favorably to a boss or spouse when they yell at you? Praise is the best motivator while it is balanced with teaching.

  37. By Shawn on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    @Titus … one word

    ACCOUNTABILITY

  38. By Shawn on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    When your 0-3 something major is wrong and listening to our coaches talk all they do is praise everyone

    thats whats wrong with our society … its become a child worshipping society where we teach our kids they can do no wrong, they never lose, and they never lie … AS A SOCIETY WE HAVE ELIMINATED ALL TRUTH FROM NEGATIVELY AFFECTING KIDS

    Which really means we have taught a whole generation to lie and live in fantasy world

    Some of those kids are now adults which is why we have so many people living in lala land full of rainbows and unicorns

    TRUTH MAY HURT BUT ITS STILL THE TRUTH !!!!!

  39. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Shawn,

    That is my word- I have used it often on here. But screaming or criticizing publicly is counterproductive – in my humble opinion. Better to just put a player on the bench and let him decide if he wants to contribute– keep the rhetoric light, but take appropriate actions to ensure the whole team has success.

  40. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    And when all else fails…..STAKE THEM!!!!!!!

  41. By GM on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    McNaab was a bad idea back when it was still a rumor.

    I have never liked the idea of hiring qb’s that were fired from other teams. It’s like a get rich quick scheme, almost never works.

    I didn’t like Farve coming here.

    I want to see longevity and consistency at the position.

    Let’s get a qb that will be here so the qb and receivers don’t have to try and be on the same page with a different guy every year.

    I don’t want to wait for McNaab to develop with the team because if he ever does, it will be about time for him to retire. Then we start all over again.

    How many playoff teams start qb’s that have been fired from other teams year in and year out?

    1998 Vikes with Cunningham, 1999 Vikes with Cunningham and George, 2008 Vikes with Frerrotte, 2009 Vikings with Farve, Cardinals with Warner. That’s all I can think of in the past 20 years. There are prolly more.

    Point is, most of the time, playoff teams are not teams that try to quick-fix the QB position with an older, fired qb.

  42. By Shawn on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    LOL Titus as far as I can remember I used the accountabilty word first but if you need it to be your word you cna have it ….

    I agree some benchings are in order and have been for over a year …

  43. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Poor examples for your argument, GM. Cunningham had a sky high, out of this world QB rating in 1998 and led the Vikes to a 15-1 record. Cardinals went to two Superbowls under Warner.

  44. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Shawn, maybe you did– on the blog, but in life I probably used that word first, considering I was on the planet first. Yes, let McNabb start, but if he has two three and outs in a row– stop the insanity.

  45. By Shawn on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    good point old man :)

  46. By James on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Yeah just look at the record it speaks for itself, 3 comebacks up by 20. Anyone can tell right off the bat it’s the coaching. Frazier is a players coach not a leadership coach he stands still like a statue during games and doesn’t say a word.

  47. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    James, don’t remind me. We should be 3-0.

  48. By GM on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Titus, what does their qb rating have to do with my point? I realize these guys had great seasons, that is why they made the playoffs.

    as I stated at the end of my post; the point is, most of the time, playoff teams are not teams that try to quick-fix the QB position with an older, fired qb.

    Are you satisfied with a different qb every 2 years?

  49. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    GM, I copied your thesis remark, verbatim:

    I have never liked the idea of hiring qb’s that were fired from other teams. It’s like a get rich quick scheme, almost never works.

    Then your support of the thesis in terms of your evidence were two excellent QBs that did work. So,without further elaboration with evidence, I would say your examples contradict your claim.

  50. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    btw- the rating is often indicative of the play of a QB in relation to post-season play–so, it is relative to your point, GM.

  51. By Philip on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    I am with you GM lets start Ponder get 1st round reciver next year and 2nd round takle and then we should be good and can just work and improve from there

  52. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Absolutely, I agree with getting Ponder in there.

  53. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    At the worst, he struggles and McNabb will get his rear in gear and play better. At best, the next Montana leads us to the Superbowl.

  54. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    After hearing McNabb defect all criticism on his play to state everyone needs to look at their play, I did not see a leader. He needs to be benched if he shows any weakness on Sunday.

  55. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    correction– deflect not defect– I don’t think McNabb is a Soviet trying to come to the USA.

  56. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Titus, how does one defect criticism?

  57. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    You beat me to it.

  58. By GM on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    My post last post didn’t work so I will retype it.

  59. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Nova, I am having a nice big piece of salmon – does Sonja like fish?

  60. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    She will eat anything that even remotely looks like food.

  61. By GM on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    13 seasons = 156 teams in the playoffs

    I gave you the 6 playoff teams I could think of in that time period that had old, fired quarterbacks.

    Again, the point is, MOST OF THE TIME, playoff teams are not teams that try to quick-fix the QB position with an older, fired qb.

    So are you, or are you not satisfied with a new QB every two years?

  62. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    She shies away from live lobster, but that all changes once it leaves the pot.

  63. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    If we win, I am satisfied.

  64. By VegasVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Now at M cD onalds serve blood rare on a wooden stick… the Mc STAKE!!
    and for the little lady in smaller portions, recommended by Leslie Fraizer, the MISS STAKE!!

  65. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    So, Sonja is afraid of lobster claws?

  66. By Parody on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Just watched all the pressers, and I’m becomming more and more convinced that they’re pointless. Our coaches have it in their heads that they can’t leak a thing about their opinions of poor players, or any detail of plans for improvement, lest they give the opposition an advantage with the extra knowledge.

    It would be nice if the reporters asking questions [coughMIKEcoughcoughcough] would be a bit more aggressive about certain faults. They started to ask about Berrian, Musgrave deflected (defected?) the question by indicating that they’re working on the problem and are seeing improvement. A follow question should have asked how much more leeway is Berrian going to receive before other players get a chance, but instead the reporters moved on to the next topic.

    What kind of story can you get from this? Don’t be afraid to hurt a few feelings in order to get some REAL responses. Otherwise, just leave the coaches be and save press conferences for happy questoins after a good performance.

  67. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    The first time I put them on the deck, leaving their bands on, she went up to them, gave a sniff, and started barking furiously at them. You don’t want an unbanded lobster grabbing your dog’s nose.

  68. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Parody……My life is sunshine, lollipops and rainbows,
    That’s how this refrain goes, so come on, join in everybody!

  69. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    “The Unbanded Lobsters” would be a great name for a rock band !

  70. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Parody, I am reminded of Sunday’s loss reading your post– what was one of the things I first said? I said, please no pressers at all this week– no one wants to hear any garbage– just speak next week at the game.

  71. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Or just play the pressers from week one each week.

  72. By VegasVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    I want to deflect to Canada

  73. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Or a commercial for an orthodontist.

  74. By Parody on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    LoL Nova – This site keeps on making that tune play over and over again in my head.

    We might as well call it official and make it the theme song of the Vikings 2011 season…

  75. By VegasVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Nova is it true the bigger the lobster the less tender the meat?

  76. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    I’m sorry I inflicted that on everyone, Parody. Titus said it came into his head while cycling the other day.

  77. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    UGH– I just heard the melody for a spit second with audiophile clarity.

  78. By VegasVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    You get me off it every time you mention lobster

  79. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    We could play the Rocky theme song– flying high now– and have Barney run out of the tunnel.

  80. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Yeah Vegas, you can buy what are called Jumbo lobster (5+lbs.), cheaper per lb. than “Markets” (1-5 lbs.). They are always tougher. …Best lobster is 1.5-3 lbs.

  81. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Right now it’s only about $5 per lb……..$15 gets you a real good feed. You can spend that at Burger King (if you’re a moron).

  82. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Lobster tails on a bun? With drawn butter. To go.

  83. By Jeffbleedspurple on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    @GM: I don’t think Cunningham was fired, then rehired by Minnesota, actually he had retired and Minnesota asked him to come out of retirement.

  84. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    They hauled one out of Peggy’s Cove ( the site of the SwissAir 111 Disaster ) the other day. It weighed 27lbs. Some restaurant in New York bought it, hopefully just for advertising. You would need a chain saw to cut it.

  85. By VegasVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    I’m gonna need some soon, I tire of the west coast version.

  86. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    That is a big one– probably kept in an aquarium at the entrance to greet the customers and help the Maitre’ D.

  87. By Jeffbleedspurple on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    You know now that I think about it, when Cunningham played in 98, it was the best season of his career, almost the same cinderella story that Favre had in 09, both had close to a 106 passer rating, both close to 34 TD’s and 10 INts, things that make you go hhmmm!!

  88. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    I just looked up , out of curiosity, on wiki……the biggest lobster ever caught in the world was in Nova Scotia, 44.4 lbs.

  89. By Jeffbleedspurple on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    yea I know! I think we should spear him.

  90. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    A lobster that big could easily snap your arm.

  91. By VegasVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Cunningham was Comeback Player of the Year in 98. He owned a tile shop in Vegas and came out of retirement to play for the Vikes. He now has a church in Vegas and is a minister there.

  92. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    That lobster is the weight of an average first grader.

  93. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Yeah, and his son drowned a year or two ago in their hot tub- very sad.

  94. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    You guys have convinced me, tomorrow Prime Rib is $5 lb. Going to have some surf&turf !

  95. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Surf and Turf– sounds like a story of two halves– if you get my drift…

  96. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Sonja gets upset because I don’t give her much lobster…..too rich for a dog, but she gets more than her share of Prime Rib.

  97. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    My God….listen to how spoiled my Doberman is…..

  98. By VegasVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    You are correct Titus, Randall is a staple here since his days at UNLV. I’ve met him, a very nice individual. Not STAKE material. Nova, what time is dinner? They have these little 3oz tails here for $6.99

  99. By Parody on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    I’ll say…I wanna come be your dog…

  100. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Dinner’s anytime you get here boys……Lots of ice cold Canadian beer to wash it all down,…..I’ll even open up a bottle or two of Bermuda’s best rum, Black Seal.!

  101. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Does Sonja ever eat dog food?

  102. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    I’m semi-retired, it’s always party time here.

  103. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    I try to encourage it Titus, but it keeps getting harder and harder. I think she looks at it as a form of punishment now.

  104. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Thanks Nova, Parody gave me an idea to pose as a dog at your house, but I had to make sure the menu was consistently people food.

  105. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Once a dog is spoiled with your meals, she loses appetite for Alpo.

  106. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    We only have one game between Packer games this year- very odd.

  107. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    and a Bye week, but seems strange.

  108. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    She had a sampling of Standard Poodle last year, remember Titus?

  109. By Parody on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Titus – What I think is even more odd is that there are two weeks between the Packer games, and both teams have their bye on one of the weeks.

  110. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Yes, I see that poor poodle now– bleeding all over her coat.

  111. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    The NFL schedule-makers said that was because if any games had to be wiped out because of the labor unrest, they didn’t want them to be divisional games. There were no inter-divisional games scheduled early in the season.

  112. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    That second game is Monday night— Packers will annihilate us — if we don’t improve by then. Maybe we can embarrass them on national TV. OH– that would be almost better than a Superbowl.

  113. By Parody on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    I don’t know, week 3 is still kind of early.

  114. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Niova– we played Detroit in week 3.

  115. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    If you check the schedule, you’ll see that there were no inter-divisional games scheduled the first two weeks……the NFL covering their a$$es.

  116. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Plus, Nova, not convinced your argument proves the proximity of the GB games- are there any other divisional games that close? For the Vikings?

  117. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    The guy was on TV the other day…it was all because of the possibility of having to cancel games.

  118. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    So, the NFL was convinced the season would start by week 3?

  119. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    It just means that the divisional games are more “compressed” this year.

  120. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    I guess they were hoping, Titus. But it makes sense if you think about it.

  121. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Will McNabb be on the bench when we play in Washington in December?

  122. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    I just checked the schedule and there were some divisional games early on, I don’t know what this guy was talking about now.

  123. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Nova, at least you were skeptical– always triangulate if you want to be certain.

  124. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Titus, I really hope not, because that would mean we’re playing better.

  125. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Nova, I meant — will McNabb be benched?

  126. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    This week is put-out or sit out time for a few veterans.

  127. By Frederick Jones on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Mr. Smiff,

    I enjoyed your first post on this blog because it was very complete in describing McNabb’s apparent performance.

    Even Bud Grant stuck with veterans too long. That might be the case with McNabb unless our Offensive Line is even worse than we thought.

    Mr. Smiff, if McNabb really said he won’t work on his mechanics, then it
    might be wise to release him. Seriously.

  128. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    I think you hit on it Titus…he has some sort of ego problem, maybe a slight sense of entitlement. I think he has one-half of football to get over it.

  129. By Frederick Jones on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    @Titus,

    McNabb and Frazier are old friends. That may be why McNabb is getting
    such a long look.

    It’s happened before with Vikings coaches. And it happens in high school and college. And of course it hurts teams.

    Track & Field is a better sport that way. The watch don’t not never lie !

  130. By Frederick Jones on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    @Titus,

    How do you feel about sentences beginning with “And?”

    I have seen it in books, but my teachers were critical
    about using it to start a sentence.

  131. By Frederick Jones on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    @Titus,

    Release McNabb, benching him may only cause problems.

    I remember when the Vikings tried to bench Tommy Kramer late in his career. That didn’t work out so well !

  132. By Frederick Jones on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    I got 4 out of 5 posts. How many Viking fans are there in Viking Nation?

  133. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Frederick Jones! I knew you were hiding nearby. If you watch McNabb’s presser, when asked if he needs to improve mechanics, he first says NO before the question is answered ( take a look, I am little fuzzy on the details now) — but what I recall for sure is how he would say he needs to improve– followed every time that EVERYONE needs to do that– he is not being a leader — take ownership of your mistakes, do not point fingers at your teammates, and work on the only person you can actually change– YOURSELF– I am losing respect –

  134. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    OOPS– correction– says NO, before the question is finished being asked– ugh, I am getting tired.

  135. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    How are you Fred? When I was in university, starting sentences with a conjunction was a no-no, but perfectly acceptable now, apparently.

  136. By Frederick Jones on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    @Titus,

    His stats are like those of Gary Cuozzo. Being a good game manager only goes so far.

  137. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    OK folks 2am here, have a good one!

  138. By Frederick Jones on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    @Nova,

    That it! It’s similar to everyone wearing suits in the early 1960s. Now everyone dresses casual (Man).

  139. By Frederick Jones on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Yeah it’s nearly midnight here.

    Good night Nova, and Titus.

  140. By Parody on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    I think it’s still technically a no-no. I tend do it anyways, just because I tend to have very long run on sentences otherwise.

  141. By Parody on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    @Fred – I hate wearing a suit! I can’t even stand a shirt and tie most days. A polo is plenty professional for my taste anyways ;)

  142. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Funny you ask Fred, I was asked that today or yesterday by a student. I said it is frowned upon in academic circles, although I believe there is nothing wrong with it, as long as you can articulate why you are doing it — bottom line in all writing, in my opinion. I think I also told the student, your instructor may not like an “and” to begin a sentence, but if you were on the NY Bestseller list, you could do it, no problem.
    I generally don’t do it in my own writing (maybe because of teachers drilling their propaganda into me as a child?)– your logic (order of ideas) should tie your thoughts, not conjunctions at the start of sentences.But sometimes an “and” works to start a sentence. On a blog it is fine– anywhere else, it is up to you- more scholarly, probably not seen much.

  143. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Might I add– using “and” at the start of a sentence does not make or not make a great writer– it would be considered a “lower order” concern in my book–

  144. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    AND to all, a goodnight.

  145. By VegasVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    I believe Berrian put a jinx on McN to take pressure off himself

  146. By VA Vike Fan on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    I give McNabb 2 more games of this foolishness. If we’re 0-5 that’s the season. So might as well get Ponder some reps. Lets at least be SMART about this shameful season

  147. By Titus on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    And I second that Nova.

  148. By VegasVike on Sep 29, 2011 | Reply

    Goodnight all

  149. By James on Sep 30, 2011 | Reply

    Replace frazier put in singelterry, that should pump up the players.

  150. By James on Sep 30, 2011 | Reply

    Why not give mistral, sherals, dean more playing time wake up frazier quit sleeping.

  151. By Titus on Sep 30, 2011 | Reply

    Every time we lose a game, change coaches. Smart way to build a dynasty.

  152. By VA Vike Fan on Sep 30, 2011 | Reply

    Coach Mora sums up our performance better than Coach Frazier ever could….

  153. By soldier1986 on Sep 30, 2011 | Reply

    whats up guys. been a long time since i been here. dont know what to say about this year lol. rocksalt whas up man?

  154. By James on Sep 30, 2011 | Reply

    Lets lose for another 15 years before we change coaches, obviously frazier has no fire to spark up his players. Lets see where this goes keeping frazier in charge.

  155. By Stoney on Sep 30, 2011 | Reply

    Lets see Ponder play, how else will we know if we should pick Luck or trade that pick for a few 1st & 2nd rounders?

  156. By Jeffbleedspurple on Sep 30, 2011 | Reply

    lol @ Va Vike Fan: that was funny but true, maybe this will help.

  157. By Jeffbleedspurple on Sep 30, 2011 | Reply

    Hey Mike W: Talking about injury report, whats the status on Camarillo?

  158. By Jeffbleedspurple on Sep 30, 2011 | Reply

    OK! never mind! I just checked the injury list, I thought I read somewhere he was injured, guess I was tired then :/

  159. By TheEye on Sep 30, 2011 | Reply

    McDufus has 5.5 million reasons why he won’t be benched. Makes a head coach look bad maybe. I say bench him and the head coach. Clearly both are in over their heads.

  160. By Billy on Sep 30, 2011 | Reply

    Here how I see it. McBad was a bad idea so let’s move on do not be pigheaded Frazier because you are friends with him from the Eagles this is business. Your job is safe this year so show your working for next year to be a very good team. Let’s build for next year starting now. Let’s split the QB play with Webb and Ponder. If we decide to go with Ponder let’s not waist anymore time with Webb talent and move him to tightend with Kyle for next year. Do not let Webb just float around for 3 or 4 years use him. Vasanta contract is up after this year. Harvin in the slot and keep the 2 young receivers Aromashod and Arceneaux . Maybe get Toby as a slot receiver to go with Harvin so he can be on the field along with all the other talent. That would give you Ponder QB, Harvin, Toby SR, Kyle, Webb TE and AP RB on the field at the same time. That might work as good as New England without a deep threat and if we add one great. Then start the talent 6th round draft picks Love and Fusco (both had second round talent but hurt in college and looked good in pre-season) on the O line and Brown. Then we will draft WR and OT 1st and 2nd round next year. Defense line is ok with Allen, Williams Ballard, Guion, Ayodeleand the rest of the young Talent. Linebackers the over sized talented Griffen, undersized tackling Machine fast Larry Dean in the Middle LB or in the Secondary if Brinkley comes back strong (see Larry Dean Utube clip) and the brilliant Greenway on the outside. The secondary has the stud in Cook to build around with Raymond, Sherels Burton along with Sanford and Abdula. Let’s start the youth movement now (see Greenbay and Tampa for examples) and build a team for maybe next year but for sure the year after that. AP should still be a stud for 5 years or more and Allen should still be a great pass rusher for the same. Go Viks you have loyal fans and let’s let this year go for the good of the future and start the young talent so next year the experience of this year and training camp will have them primed to be very competitive for years. Skol Vikings! What do you all think please post and respond ok?

  161. By Billy on Oct 1, 2011 | Reply

    Just three games into his Minnesota Vikings tenure, Donovan McNabb is already butting heads with the coaching staff.

    A report out of Minnesota suggests coaches have approached McNabb about correcting some mechanical issues related to his throwing arm.

    McNabb replied by saying there’s nothing to fix, and that “some throws, you just miss.”
    With tis additude and being washed up just maybe they should get our talented young quarterbacks in now !!!!!!

  162. By Dennis on Oct 2, 2011 | Reply

    GO TO WALMART GET ANOTHER GREETER FOR QB.

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