After (Film) Review: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Posted by Mike Wobschall on September 14, 2011 – 2:54 pm

A convenient scheduling quirk occurred this past weekend for anyone who wanted to get an advanced look at future Vikings opponents: Tampa Bay and Detroit, the Vikings next two opponents, played each other. As luck would have it, this week the Vikings Week 3 and Week 4 opponents (Detroit and Kansas City) also play each other.

With Detroit and Tampa Bay squaring off last Sunday, I set the DVR and watched that game back this morning. I took quite a few notes in watching the Lions defeat Tampa Bay 27-20, but I’ve decided to focus on just two areas.

Here are my thoughts on Tampa’s defensive front seven and passing attack after watching last weekend’s game…

Buccaneers defensive front seven
– Tampa Bay plays in a 4-3 defensive scheme and that front seven includes a very young defensive line. The Buccaneers invested their first two picks in each of the last two drafts on defensive linemen, and the result is a starting defensive line that averages 23.75 years of age and an entire defensive line group that is even a touch younger than that.

– The two standouts on that line are DT Gerald McCoy, the #3 overall pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, and Adrian Clayborn, the #20 overall pick in the 2011 NFL Draft. McCoy is good at splitting double-teams and being a disruptive force in the backfield, but he had no sacks and no tackles for a loss against the Lions. Clayborn is athletic and sheds blockers very well. He had a great outside rush move against LT Jeff Backus early in the game, but he also had trouble finishing plays and he was fooled on an end-around early in the game.

– Ultimately, I think the Buccaneers defensive line will be the heart and soul of the defense for several years to come. They are young and very athletic. But the Vikings offensive line matches up with this group and it’ll be a fun aspect of the game to watch on Sunday.

– The three linebackers are athletic and when pressuring the QB can be dangerous because of that athleticism. The Vikings offensive line, RBs and TEs need to have their protection responsibilities buttoned up to make sure Tampa’s LBs don’t get a free run at the QB.

– Against the Lions, Tampa Bay didn’t do a much disguising of coverage with their LBs. You’ll see Chad Greenway and E.J. Henderson frequently showing one look pre-snap and then executing a different technique during the play. I didn’t see the Buccaneers do this at all; it was a very straight forward approach, and they dropped into a lot of zone coverage against Detroit.

– I think the Buccaneers LBs are prone to misdirection and play-action or draw plays. Detroit executed a great play-action pass early in the game, with RG Stephen Peterman pulling to the left side. Peterman pulling caused two Buccaneers LBs to bite, which allowed Lions QB Matthew Stafford to find a wide open Brandon Pettigrew down the seam for a 1st down.

Passing attack
– We’ll start with the trigger man – QB Josh Freeman. He’s a young, athletic and big-armed passer who has some spark but also doesn’t fare well under pressure. The trick is, it’s hard to corral him because he’s strong and fast. He’s a player on the rise, but he still has some learning to do. Hopefully he doesn’t take a step forward this week.

– Their WRs are more quick than fast. The best of the group is Mike Williams. Most of Freeman’s throws to Williams are when there is man-to-man coverage against him. I didn’t see Freeman throw to Williams when he was covered by two-plus defenders. Freeman threw two fade routes to Williams in the game’s first eight plays, both in man-to-man coverage. Then Freeman threw another fade to Williams later in the 1st half and yet another in the 2nd half. But Williams has the speed and ball skills to win those one-on-one matchups.

– I was most impressed with TE Kellen Winslow. He can lineup in a three-point stance or in the slot, and he’ll win both ways. The Lions tried to cover him up with S Louis Delmas, and Winslow won that battle most of the time. Many times Tampa Bay would call plays that involved the WRs running off coverage and Winslow running drag routes across the field, under the coverage. This is where Delmas struggled a touch. When Freeman targeted Winslow, it was mostly intermediate routes to the outside of the field when a LB or S was trying to cover him man-to-man.

– Here are two prime examples of the situations the Buccaneers try to create for Williams and Winslow: On a 2nd and 10 with 14 seconds to play in the 1st half, Tampa Bay had Williams run a deep route to runoff a CB and S. That created space for Winslow to come off the line and run a 10-yard out underneath the coverage on Williams. It was an easy throw for Freeman, and Tampa got into better FG range to close out the half. On 3rd and 3 in the 4th quarter, Tampa had 3 WRs and Winslow in the game (lined up on right side of offensive line). Williams came in motion and ran a shallow crossing route from left to right, and Winslow came out of his stance and ran a drag route from right to left. Delmas had man-to-man coverage on Winslow. After Winslow caught a few balls, Lions safeties began to key on him. So, on a 3rd and 8 in the 4th quarter, Winslow was in the slot to the right and Delmas was focused on him, which left Williams singled wide left. Freeman found Williams on a deep out route for the 1st down after a quick double-move.

– On a 3rd and 5, Tampa Bay went with a 3-WR formation, with Winslow in the slot; Freeman was out of the gun formation. Detroit rushed 6 defenders, which left a CB one-on-one with slot receiver Preston Parker. This is where I see Chris Cook excelling. The Lions CB couldn’t guard Parker on the corner route, but I think Cook can because he’s physical enough to jam the receiver at the line and disrupt the timing of route.

– I don’t know if this qualifies as a tendency or not; remember, I only watched on game. To accurately scout a team and discover tendencies, you certainly need more than one game’s worth of evidence. But when Tampa Bay was in the “Zebra” personnel package, I noticed that Williams and Winslow never lined up on the same side of the formation. My theory is that this gave the Buccaneers the best odds at getting a one-on-one matchup with one of these two pass-catchers, and whichever guy had the desired coverage, that was Freeman’s primary read. Many times it worked, including Williams’ 4th-quarter TD reception that made the score 27-20.

– I never saw Detroit try to jam Winslow at the line of scrimmage to disrupt the timing of the route. I wonder if this would work.

– Starting RB LeGarrette Blount is not good in pass protection; they bring in FB Earnest Graham often for those duties.

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108 Responses to “After (Film) Review: Tampa Bay Buccaneers”

  1. By Purple Paint Chips on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Wow! And to think I have heard you cannot replay the same gameplan in this league, because the pros will be ready for it. Let us hope the Bucks play the same, because it sounds like we’re ready for it.

  2. By Don on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    @mike w..sounds like you need to be teaching the coach’s a little something..

  3. By Ryan on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    This sounds like a very favorable matchup for the Vikes.

  4. By Justin F on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    We SHOULD win this game. Of course, if our defense is on the field longer than our offense, expect the same collapse as last Sunday.

  5. By Puckertrucker on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Hey Coach Frazier:

    I’m a Viking Fan all the way I have lived in Oregon for the last 16 years I’ve seen Blount play for the Ducks the best way to stop him is in the back field before he gets outside he likes to run outside quite a bit he was the player that was suspended for the ducks two seasons ago. if you can get som tape from the Oregon ducks for 2007,2008,2009 watch hime play
    go to their web site.

  6. By Puckertrucker on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Hey Coach Frazier:

    I’m a Viking Fan all the way I have lived in Oregon for the last 16 years I’ve seen Blount play for the Ducks the best way to stop him is in the back field before he gets outside he likes to run outside quite a bit he was the player that was suspended for the ducks two seasons ago. if you can get some tape from the Oregon ducks for 2007,2008,2009 watch hime play
    go to their web site.

  7. By Shawn on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    As long as we limit BBs and AAs PT we will put a W in the standings to go 1-1

  8. By jdude on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    That will all depend on if Mcnabb plays better than TJack Justin.

  9. By Titus on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    McNabb is not the problem.

  10. By vlad19 on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Good call Titus, McNabb isn;t the problem. O-line let SD walk over us. Hutch was less than average and he was the best. Charlie “Brown” Johnson was Bryant’s jock-strap… and I can’t stand Mr “Lay-Z-Boy” himself, Bryant lard-can McKinnie. But Johnson is setting the bar awfully low!

  11. By vlad19 on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Bernard Berrian….. WHEN WILL OUR ORG RECOGNIZE THIS GUY’S WASTE OF SPACE? Two thrown to, two drops. And if anyone wishes to defend him because the ball for BIG first down was “a tough catch” I will only say, he is a professional ball-catcher. He gets paid something like $8 mil to catch a football. And he drops BOTH throw to him, including the long one that he ONLY has to come back another step for position, and if the guy would go UP for the ball, instead of letting it drop into his bread-basket… Last year, 9 yds per catch, and he is our “company speedster”? Please – send him packing.

  12. By Titus on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    I will join the negativity if we are under .500 at the bye, otherwise, I am going to stay calm and believe the team is working hard to get better– do you honestly think they want to lose? Let’s give the benefit of the doubt and stay calm.

  13. By jdude on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    McNabb is the problem, what the heck is wrong with you guys. The line was not that bad. Even if we did have a few leaks it was better than chillies line. But back to the point, I Know if you know but McNabb only Had 39 nine yards, and he had his first pass picked off, and I can tell you why. He was staring down his receivers, not looking of the defenders like a GOOD VETERAN would have.

  14. By jdude on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    I’m sorry ment to say I don’t know if you noticed. Also That made it so we only had a one dimensional offense.

  15. By moorevikes on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Hey jdude, how long do you think a QB should have to make his reads and then deliver a pa-ss? I’m not sure about Pros but from the time I started out in peewee till I graduated HS my Oline coaches taught me 4-6 seconds. If you can honestly say he even had 4 seconds I’ll ask you what game you watched. Our tackles gave up way too much ground making McNabb step up which is fine but when Sullivan is standing there with his thumb up his arse because his man just blew by him it doesn’t really give him time to look down field now does it. As far as I’m concerned McNabb did what he could. Think now what’d we have like 4 ops in the 2nd half. Shanks dropped ball killed a drive, BB’s dropped ball killed a drive, and that stupid wildcat formation that everyone is calling for killed a drive. Put blame where it should be put, OLINE and DFEN scheme.

  16. By moorevikes on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    I’ve said my peace for last weeks game now we’ll see what the coaches come up with for this week. Go Vikes. I’ll have my horns on come Sunday.

  17. By moorevikes on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Titus it was kinda nice seein you lose your cool a little on some of your Mon. posts. I apologize for sayin you don’t know jack about football. I still don’t agree with knit-pickin Wobs writing but I like when he gets called out on trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear. Keep it up. Honest question, do you still think Berrian will have a break out year?

  18. By moorevikes on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    One last thing the receivers also have to be OPEN for McNabb to be able to throw them the ball or else everyone will be complaining about INT’s.

  19. By Jimmy on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    I think some people have forgotten what Donovan McNabb has done in this league. In 2008 and 2009, carried the eagles on his back to the playoffs. I’m with Titus.

  20. By Titus on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Moorevikes, I wrote a long posting and then it disappeared– you can’t seem to go back on your browser like you use to and revise your post to conform to the site’s crazy censoring. Anyway, short on time. I just said basically MN seems to have a good enough attitude– it is in the air. Berrian is capable, but there are no consequences if a player does not live up to the billing. Stretch these players– make them earn their money like the rest of us. Anyway, this is nowhere near as great as my first posting- thanks for the apology, but if we can’t rile each other a little, what fun would a blog be? I was really disappointed on Sunday– I was sure we would have a blow-out game and AP would come out on fire with his new contract– but there were issues across the whole team. I hope McNabb proves the critics wrong– for us and for him personally.

  21. By Mike B. on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    @Jimmy what I call embarrassing is laying down with a 17-7 lead at the half and lose by 7 points and laydown in most aspects of the game.

  22. By Frederick Jones on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    @MooreVikes, Jimmy, and Titus,

    The majoriity seem to agree with you that McNabb is not the problem (or the only problem, all the Vikings share the blame in a loss).

    If the Vikings had played the same way in the 2nd half as they did in the 1st, what would we be looking at???

    Along with better statistics, the Vikings would have won that game.

    I really expect us to do better at home. Hopefully enough to win :)

  23. By Frederick Jones on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    My personal computer won’t be hooked up until Sunday. That’s why I’m thankful to Parody for sending that article on the new offfensive lineman (Blount).

    Currently I am missing the pressers, and any videos.

    Thank you Parody! :)

  24. By Frederick Jones on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply


    Good name, the best one I’ve seen in a while. Does that mean that we can just assume you are crazy???

  25. By Frederick Jones on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply


    Sorry about your posting problems. At least you can post when you want, I have to borrow computer time from a friend.

    This means I am not getting some of the latest info. on the Vikings. But I have more time to unpack my bags after making a complicated move!

  26. By Frederick Jones on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply


    Would you rather we played Asher Allen on OFFENSE? lol

  27. By DuaneN on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Berrian is good at two things. Going deep and running the slant, so obviously we don’t do either of these things. I really don’t understand why the quick slant has disappeared. Yes the WR will get lit up sometimes but that’s part of the game.

    Makes no sense that we didn’t throw some slants to Harvin. For some reason we just love these WR screen plays. Defender sees it coming a mile away.

  28. By Titus on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    That’s horrible Fred– a month or so ago I had to get a new computer– old one died instantly — had to go to the library, etc– within three days I had a new one– cause I have to- over half my livelihood is connected to my computer.

  29. By Titus on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    But now I have one that is so fast compared to before– I wish I had just upgraded a long time ago…

  30. By Frederick Jones on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply


    I now live out in the boonies. I’m hoping that my computer can go faster than the ones I’ve been borrowing from relatives.

    My computer is only 2 years old and is Windows 7. That should be fast enough, right??????????

    (It was fast in the city I lived in before. But I’m a caveman when it comes to computers and don’t know how it will react in the country!)

  31. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Sometimes it seems that your computer is outracing your mind, Titus. Just kidding.

  32. By Frederick Jones on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    @Duane N,

    I wondered about those crossing patterns. I never saw one the entire game.

  33. By Frederick Jones on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    AH…a barb from Nova Scotia. Stay tuned sports fans to see how the Titus responds…

  34. By Frederick Jones on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    In this corner standing 6’7″ and weighing in at a svelte 285 pounds, from Canada, Nova Scotia!

    In the other corner, the defending blogger of the world, standing 6’6″ and weighing a rock hard 290 pounds with a 50 inch chest…
    Titus, Titus, Titus…..

  35. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Fred, I wish.

  36. By Titus on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Sure, Fred, I am not that big or I would not have cycled 101 miles in the heat on Sunday– big men usually don’t last in that kind of endurance. I am more like a Winfield– a little taller, but just overall very fit.

  37. By Titus on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Nova can rip me all day– does not bother me, somehow I know Sonja will keep him from crossing the line– she loves me.

  38. By Titus on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Fred- your comp is only two years old and it is failing?

  39. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    She barks about you all the time.

  40. By Titus on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Ha ha ha, Nova, someone reading this in the dark would think my woman is a dog.

  41. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Just re-reading everything. Yeah, it could seem a little weird.

  42. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Anyway Titus, your “girlfriend” is back in the house after peeing outdoors, just to make everything seem a little stranger to the uninformed. You guys have a good night.

  43. By VegasVike on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Why are you guys still awake?? It’s so late there it’s probably tomorrow

  44. By NovaScotiaVike on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Vegas, Titus’ woman had to go squat on the lawn.

  45. By Titus on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Vegas, it just turned midnight in Minneapolis– Nova is the tardy one at 2am.

  46. By VegasVike on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Haha, I had to take my pooch to the doc yesterday. She has an enlarged heart and fluid in her lungs :-(

  47. By Parody on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    I think you might have me confused with someone else Fred. I don’t recall ever making a comment about the new offensive lineman. Plus I’m not sure where the name Blount came from. The only move I knew of this week was picking up C Joe Berger and dropping Jon Cooper.

    Perhaps you confused me with DRS? Most of his posts are in relation to an article he found. I can’t really say for sure though. I’ve been busy the past two days and don’t want to try to catch up on all of the blogs since the game now.

  48. By Titus on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Oh, how is the pooch doing?

  49. By VegasVike on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    She’ll be ok Titus thanks. 10 year old beagle, sounds fairly common. I’m told she’ll live a good life just gonna have to keep her on meds

  50. By Titus on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    my sister had a beagle, but she had a little terrier mixed in and she was super hyper all the time.

  51. By Arrow86 on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    @Vegas and Titus:

    I hope the dog recovers or responds to meds well. If you haven’t read it yet, be sure to read ‘My Life In Dog Years” by Minnesota’s own Gary Paulsen. As for Titus it’s easier to stay up late when you have hope in what the Vikings are trying to accomplish as a team and organization. I just have a much better feel for this year’s team than last year’s group.

    Keep racking up the miles on the bike. Don’t put 100 miles on in your living room, like last year. Nova’s response to that still makes me chuckle.

  52. By Woodboat on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    moorevikes… I couldn’t have said it better. O-Line is garbage and our defensive scheme is worse. How many 3rd and longs did Rivers convert by p@ssing to a WR that was standing flat footed in the middle of our cruddy zone? You guys wanna scapgoat to pin this loss on (and all the ones that are certain to follow), look no further than our head coach. This defensive scheme that we continue to run is complete garbage. Tackling a guy after he makes the certain first down isn’t defense, its delaying the inevitable. All we can hope for is that the other team stops themselves, because our pass defense stinks.

    Go Loadholt and Johnson!!!!! No, seriously, just go……

  53. By PurpleNation on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Dear Mike Wobschall,

    Would you mind doing all of us fans a very HUGE favor by telling (This isn’t a question) coach Frasier to start throwing our rookies particularly Brandon Burton and Marcus Sherels into the fire/starting lineup as we can’t go anywhere, but up from here!

    Last I checked its the ballhawks (Which we don’t currently have in the starting lineup excluding Winfield and Jared Allen) in the secondary that makes the difference along with the D-Line pressure of course that makes the difference in winning games!

  54. By Woodboat on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Wobs… you say our O Line matches up well against the Bucs D Line? Is this the same O Line that let McNabb get smashed by SDs line… even when SD only rushed 4? Smoke another one, champ.

  55. By Titus on Sep 14, 2011 | Reply

    Thanks for the laugh Woodboat– good to smile before sleeping. I have a long day tomorrow and it is way past my bedtime.

  56. By Shawn on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    Heres a positive story line from our team after the first game … Bernard and Asher should take notes

    Brian Robison

  57. By Shawn on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    NM Berrian droped his notes

  58. By Purple Paint Chips on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    @Frederick Jones
    Yes. But I am not an idiot. Woodboat guessed it on the Chips. I am just a crazy Vikes fan who like you was crying out for some line upgrade. I Think we could have been more patient with McKinnie. At least they had a long way to run to get around him, And he seemed to be the can opener for Ray Rice if you like Ravens highlights.

    The Bucks, Raiders and Detriot are looking pretty stout in the D Line. I go through mood swings say from 15-1 to 4-12. Nabbs looked good versus the Cowboys, but I fear he is burnt out. He wasn’t looking off coverage, and Webb froze up out there too. I wish they would have upgraded oline with money saved by trusting Webb and Ponder, cutting Berrian, and getting Plax cheap. So much talent, so little time.

  59. By klwedge on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    if u put Pounder in you will have a fighting chance to the play offs because he has a name to make an everything to prove.

  60. By jdude on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    Come on man the defensive scheme was just fine. They were just tired because who kept giving the ball away MCNABB!! If you wtched last year Favre only had 2 seconds in the pocket, and he looked much better than McNabb looked last sunday. And the 4-6 seconds doesn’t allways happen. Some QB’s only get 2-3 seconds in this league. So it is McNabb, and Berrian’s drop that’s what you get with him he is not a good wide reciever, Shianco’s drop was because the pass was to low.

  61. By Jman on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    Newsflash mcnabb SUCKS to any mcnabb fans

  62. By Carl K on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    jdude- I would NOT say our defensive sheme was just fine. Rivers hit way too many of the short easy check downs. Our linebackers were nowhere! We made it too easy for Rivers to move the chains.

    Tobert (a fullback) caught 2 tds. One he took for 19 yards on a dump off. RB Mathews caught a short dump in the middle of the field and took it 37 yrds to put SD in scoring position. Our linebackers looked silly on that play.

    San Diego backfield caught 12 b@lls for 131 yards. That is too easy!
    Backs and TEs had 20 receptions for 205 yrds. That is too easy!
    Our linebackers need to cover someone!!!!!
    We held the WRs to only 130 yards… I would say our DB did ok.

  63. By ozzinator on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    Stretch from KQRS just picked Tampa over the Vikes 17-16.

  64. By Carl K on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    Our top 2 tacklers were DBs.
    7 guys had more tackles than our middle linebacker EJ Henderson. The one thing I was counting on this year was good play and production from our linebackers.

    Singletary, what did you do with our great linebackers????

  65. By Titus on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    How does bashing McNabb help in any way? Will McNabb bashers influence Coach Frazier’s decisions? I hope not or we will have mob rule based on the whimsical desires of fans who base their loyalty on the day’s wind direction. Watch McNabb have a stellar performance in the next two or three games– same folks saying he is our poison will be praising him. Get some stability in the head, people. Don’t float around by every change in the weather.

  66. By Carl Brodin on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    When Tampa puts Winslow in the slot and Williams wide throw different coverages at them. Put Chris cook on Williams and jam him at the line. Put one of our line backers on Winslow play under coverage . Most important put preasure on Freeman. Jared Allen & Brian Robison should have good games. I would put Fred Evans in there at nose tackle on first or second down then slide guion over to nose and put Ballard in there. What do the rest of you think?

  67. By Nicholas on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    I’ll admit that I am negative on here from time to time…but with good reason.

    However; Here’s to you Titus in being calm and giving the benefit of the doubt to this team.(unless they go below .500)


  68. By Carl K on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    Success and great leadership is measured in part by the obstacles you can overcome, and your ability to attract people who want to follow and help you persevere in adverse situations.

    Titus, we will find out very soon if McNabb is the leader you think he is.

  69. By Carl K on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    Titus, I hope you are right.. because I think McNabb is in great shape and looks good in purple. I wish him well!

  70. By hippster on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    mcnabb will lead this team right into the dumpster,our third rate secondary will let the worst of teams beat us,a few brite spots here and there ,not a hope and a prayer for the playoffs 6 and 10 at best

  71. By Vikingsfan on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    I can’t wait to watch the Bucs play the Vikings.. It was one of the first games I ever watched as a kid and I watch that whenever it happens… My money is on the vikings though

  72. By Purple Paint Chips on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    @Carl Brodin
    I think when it is a clear passing situation, they should slide Robison over to DT, sub Ballard at the other DT, Add in Awesom or Reed at DE along with Allen, and sub/blitz Everson Griffen from LB. You have five great pass rushers. Roll the dice.

  73. By Shawn on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    I cant believe the McNabb haters ….

    A QB needs protection and at least 1 guy that can create some separation. McNabb doesnt have either one …. Bernard Berrian is our #1 WR

    Berrian is the worst #1 WR in the league … He is probably the worst #2 WR in the league … he is among the worst #3 WR in the league … and he is an average #4 WR in the league BUT HE IS OUR #1 WHY?

    I really expected better from loadholt in his third year and he still has 15 games to get it right …. but Charlie Johnson is in his 6th season? Johnson has me extremely worried ….


    It would do no good throwing Ponder in the game to get slaughtered with NO PROTECTION and destroy his confidence because his #1 WR will drop any pass not thrown 100% perfectly

  74. By Shawn on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    McNabb is absolutely 100% by far without question undeniably NOT OUR WEAKEST LINK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  75. By sandiamond on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    Look for a big game from “AD”

    Tampa had the nfl’s 5th worst run defense last season. The Lion’s Jahvid Best totaled 114 yards last week after recording only one 100+ yard game last season

  76. By Shawn on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    Fred Jones was right …. an OL needs at least 1 stud to be good WE HAVE NONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    To dominate we need at least 2-3 beasts ….

    WE HAVE 0 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!! NADA !!!!!!!!!!!!

  77. By sandiamond on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    Shawn we made a mistake . Mckinnie is almost 6’9″ inches tall. The man has to carry extra weight for his height and we miss that load on the LINE. Charlie Johnson has been a utility lineman for those six years

  78. By Shawn on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    Hutch is getting older he is solid but he is not the BEAST he used to be …

    Charlie Johnson is a clown … Sullivan is a paper weight at best …. Herrera ? I dont know hes been hurt most of the time … and Loadholt is just a big Ogre he can maul in the run game but not a good pass blocker

  79. By Shawn on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    @sandi … i think your right but whats done is done :(

  80. By Shawn on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    I wish we would cut Berrian and sign Iglesias … then put either Arceneaux or Iglesias on the 53

    IT CANT BE WORSE THAN BERRIAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I really really really wish we would sign Randy Moss …. 1 more time

  81. By sandiamond on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    A few notables:

    Ross Homan signed with Tampa ps
    Frank Walker cut by the Titans signed by the Cowboys
    Benny Sapp cut by the Dolphins
    KC resigned S Rashard Langford

    Players are picked up by a waiver wire order according to last season’s standings(for the first three weeks of this season is how it works) Teams have to cut a player on the 53-man roster if the order is filled

  82. By Titus on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    Carl– not making any claims on McNabb– I still need to see some results– if you read my posts, I am not endorsing him, I am speaking of giving him a chance. Like Shawn eluded to, if we had a Moss and Cris Carter, and a great O line, McNabb probably would have had a decent enough game to beat the Chargers. Oh wait, you mean there are other players on the field besides the quarterback? Oh, gee, I just had an epiphany, maybe McNabb is not the problem. Next will we see the dome booing McNabb? That will really help. NOT.

  83. By Viking Joe on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    McNabb gives the Vikings the best chance of winning now !!!! Ponder or Webb aren’t ready yet, Ponder played against 2nd and 3rd stringers in preseason, ponder that !!!

  84. By Viking Joe on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    Titus, I know you enjoyed my play on words !!!!

  85. By Carl K on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    Yes, McNabb may gives us the best chance to win right now, but as many have said, we have holes at WR and on the Oline that will make McNabb’s job more challenging. Add to the fact that we play in the best division in the NFL, and you can see that it might be a tall order for the Vikings to have a winning record under a first year head coach.

    So, we brought McNabb in to lead us to (IMO) an 8-8 record this year. Yes, Ponder and Webb may NOT be ready to start right now, but I think they are talented and athletic enough to also get us to the 8-8 mark. I like McNabb, but I am afraid it was a 7 million dollar washout. McNabb is just a goog QB – he is not a magician.

    We are an 8-8 football team with or without McNabb.
    I am not being negative… I am just setting realistic expectation as root on my Vikings and enjoy this game I love.

  86. By Carl K on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    I don’t care about QB stats, I just want to see McNabb be a good leader represent the Vikings in a positive manner. That is all I ask.

  87. By VegasVike on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    And just two years ago we owned this division, so sad

  88. By Frederick Jones on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply


    Sorry I accused you of filling me in on the new offensive lineman.

    It was SHAWN who provided me with the info I needed badly at the time.


    What I said to you was that my own PC is not hooked up yet. I was hoping to get some advice just in case it doesn’t work well here. I am 20 miles away from any city bigger than 650.

  89. By Frederick Jones on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply


    I am thankful for the info you sent me, since I cannot watch pressers on the computer I have available.

  90. By Frederick Jones on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    I think we are pushing the panic button too soon on Don McNabb. Other than the interception, I was impressed with his play.

    There didn’t seem to be a lot of opportunities.

  91. By Jman on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    McNabb is the weakest link admit it. How is the defense going to do well when the offense keeps givings the ball up. The defense was to tired to play well anymore in the second half. The first half defense was great. The first half score was because of McNabb’s interception.

  92. By Jman on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    Start webb

  93. By jdude on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    Right on Jman.

  94. By Shawn on Sep 15, 2011 | Reply

    @Jman …did McNabb played 1 on 11?

  95. By Ricky on Sep 16, 2011 | Reply

    Dear Coach Frazier,
    Beat the Tampa Bay Bucs! Kick their butts! I want the Vikings to win and get a touchdown, twice! We need Jared Allen to tackle some people. Good luck, have a good game! My folks love the Vikings, especially my dad.

  96. By cbednar74 on Sep 16, 2011 | Reply

    I thought of some plays both offensively & defensively that the Vikings can do to be dangerous! Once they have the ball for the 1st time throw a bomb to berrian right away let him use his speed (hopefully catches it) see Cunningham film of 1998 for reference! This will punch the other team in the mouth right away then they have to respect that & cover it this will open up everything else especially the run!!!! Another 1 throw a mid field pass to a TE if he’s getting tackled have him flip the ball to a WR trailing the play Vikes did this a few years back & it was an easy TD! Another 1 have a formation of 2 WR 1 TE both RB’s in the backfield the defense won’t know who will get the ball have everyone block on the handoff this should be effective These are just a few off the top of my head I have more!!! We have to utilize all of our players to their full potential!!! I am not saying these plays will work all of the time but with perfect execution they should work most of the time!!! Defensively I loved what we did in the 1st half last week we blitzed but also showed blitz & dropped back in coverage I would bring in a couple of our rookies too & have Griffen blitz a few times also he is a beast!!!! Plus have Antoine blitz again as well I think those packages will result in many sacks, & TO’s!!!!

  97. By Robins on Sep 16, 2011 | Reply

    Play Ponder against Freeman. It will be a good game with the two young quarterbacks!

  98. By OLD SCHOOL on Sep 16, 2011 | Reply

    This is a must win game already from what I see! We lose this game….you can kiss game 3 away. If we can’t beat Tampa……we won’t beat the Lions and the season will just start to circle the drain!

    Like I’ve said all along!

  99. By OLD SCHOOL on Sep 16, 2011 | Reply

    I think if we go 0-3…….you just go ahead and start Ponder…..get him ready for the next few season (IF HE IS THE ONE) if not we need to find out because at this point it looks as though we will have another top 10 draft pick! QB?

  100. By David P on Sep 16, 2011 | Reply

    Titus, If the OC calls the same plays he did last week the vikings WILL LOSE. It may not be McNabb, it may not be the OL, but by God the OC play calling last week was the worst. Change the plays or the vikings will be 0-16.

  101. By PuRpLe 'n GoLd on Sep 16, 2011 | Reply

    I dont like all the negativity in this whole blog, but really, i felt like our offensive line was one of the biggest issues in the SD game…..I mean we had that game, honestly, we should’ve pulled out with a win and i know the vikings are wayyy better than that. I have a lot of hope this year and McNabb still has plenty of skill and a lotta life left in him for all you doubters out there. Just as PA said in the interview, this is a week by week team and i believe we can be more and more competitive as the season progresses, SKOL VIKES and lets beat Tampa Bay!!

  102. By jdude on Sep 16, 2011 | Reply

    Big problem McNabb. He is not the one WEBB IS!!! Webb has stronger arm, he is faster than that old man of a QB that is McNabb. I know he is young but the more playing time he gets the better he shall get.

  103. By hippster on Sep 17, 2011 | Reply

    this team has done one thing consitantly in the last few decades and that is put together teams that tear out the hearts of their fans,this decade wont change much I bet that detriot wins a super bowl before this team ever does for that matter ill bet every team in the league will win a super bowl before the vikings to finnish i will just have to say mcnabb sucks and given the chance he will prove it ,just give it time.ive changed my pridiction 4 and 12 but still last in the division

  104. By Robins on Sep 17, 2011 | Reply

    I am going to be postive and hope McNabb and the whole team show us some greatness tomorrow. PLEASE!!! We must win this one. The Lions are looking good! If Stafford stays healthy, they should have their best year in a long, long time. The Bears looked good last week, they won. I can’t stand the packers but they are good. We must step up! If someone isn’t doing their job well, drop them. Don’t waste the whole year on players not playing hard. Keep the great ones. Good luck tomorrow! We have to win.

  105. By jdude on Sep 17, 2011 | Reply

    You know what I don’t care who you start anymore. Just please coach DON’T START MCNABB. He is not going to do any better than last week maybe more yards just maybe but except for that no.

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