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Analyzing The Market For Offensive Linemen

Posted by Mike Wobschall on July 28, 2011 – 3:38 pm

We’ve focused mostly on the QB and WR positions during the past few days, but you can be sure teams across the League have a broader focus than that. So let’s expand our horizons a bit and take a look at the current market for offensive linemen.

The Vikings have all five starters returning to the offensive line in 2011, but when you’re coming off a 6-10 season you know that all positions will be scrutinized; the Vikings offensive line will not be an exception.

Below you’ll see a list of names and a brief explanation behind each player. Which player(s) on the list do you like? Is there a name not on the list who should be considered by the Vikings? Let us know what you think in the comments section below this entry.

OT Matt Light (New England) – Odds are the Patriots will bring him back, but he’s currently on the market and is arguably the best OT remaining. The Vikings don’t need a starter at OT, so we’ll move on down the list for the next option.

RG Davin Joseph (Re-signed by Tampa Bay) – Standing at 6-3, 313 pounds, Joseph has good size for an interior lineman and he’s also got the athleticism to accompany it. He was actually recruited as a defensive lineman and he was also standout high school wrestler. Joseph is a five-year veteran and is just 27 years old, so he’s still on the upward arc of his career path. Tampa chose him in the first round of the 2006 draft out of Oklahoma and he’s been an important part of the team’s surge the past two years. Joseph has been described to me as a power blocker who excels in the running game. He did fracture his foot in November, but he’s also played all 16 games twice and 12 games another time.

OG Justin Blalock (Atlanta) – A versatile player, Blalock would fit best with the Vikings as a RG. He’s just 27 years old, has 3 seasons of experience and has never missed a game or start due to injury. Vikings offensive coordinator Bill Musgrave is familiar with Blalock from his time as the team’s offensive coordinator and you wonder if Musgrave has any interest. A second-round pick in 2007, he represents a good long-term starting option for teams looking to infuse their depth chart with competition and depth. He’s also a good fit in Minnesota because he has the size and athleticism to backup both OTs.

OT Jared Gaither (Reportedly signed with Raiders) –A mammoth OT at 6-9, 340 pounds, Gaither is a great option for a team looking for that franchise-caliber LT. But as of this moment, that’s not the Vikings. Let’s move on.

RT Tyson Clabo (Re-signed by Atlanta) –A six-year veteran with Denver and Atlanta, Clabo has prototypical size at 6-6, 331 pounds and he’s a durable player. I’m guessing he’ll re-sign in Atlanta, plus he’s another starting-caliber OT. We’ll move down the list.

RG Harvey Dahl (Atlanta) –Another guy with whom Musgrave is familiar from their time together in Atlanta, Dahl plays OG and stands at 6-5, 305 pounds. He’s 30 years old and is a six-year veteran. Dahl played in all 16 games in 2010 and 2008, but an ankle kept him out of five games in 2009. He’s a more likely signing than Clabo and Blalock, but it wouldn’t be a surprise to see the Vikings in the mix for any of the three. Dahl would compete with Anthony Herrera for playing time and if not a starter he’d be a primary backup all along the offensive line.

OT Jammal Brown (Washington) – At two-time Pro Bowler who has been with the New Orleans Saints and most recently the Washington Redskins, Brown stands at 6-6, 313 pounds and plays RT. Again, not a position of need for the Vikings.

Already off the market: OL Daryn Colledge, OT Jermon Bushrod, OG Marshall Yanda, OT Doug Free and OG Robert Gallery


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126 Responses to “Analyzing The Market For Offensive Linemen”

  1. By Mark S on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    I would hope that if the Vikings did in fact sign any of these free agents that they would cut Herrera. You know full well that Herrera’s salary increases from 1.4 mil to 2.625 mil this year. That is probably too much money. They should use that money plus a couple of mil to sign Blalock or Joseph. They have DeGeare and Love to back up the guard positions.

  2. By Moss Fan on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Vikings Agree with Eric Frampton

    July 28th, 2011 Randy Perrin Posted in Main

    Judd Zulgad reported that the Vikings have come to an agreement on a deal with safety and special team ace Eric Frampton according to an NFL source.

  3. By Shawn on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    @Mike Wobschall … can we get anupdate on the big name guys recovering from injuries? Hutch, Ced Griffen, Chris Cook and whoever I might have forgotten?

  4. By Shawn on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Its hard to talk OL because if they dont make the ProBowl I probably dont know them … and it takes more than just height and weight to decide whose good.

    I kinda know groups of OL but not individuals ….

  5. By Frederick Jones on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    @Mike Wobschall,

    Thank you for providing some insight on free agent linemen.

    There are many people besides myself that would disagree that the Vikings are set at Offensive Tackle. In many ways, the tackle positions were just as porous as the other three positions.

    LET’S LOOK FOR A NEW STARTER AT BOTH OFFENSIVE TACKLE SPOTS FOR 2011. OUR O LINE NEEDS TO ADD A QUALITY PLAYER, and also add some depth (which we may have already done).

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  6. By Mike B on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Hey Mike Wobschall since there is much concern about the status of our OL maybe some comments on the status of the current starters and what if any plans are with those starters. I rather not get on the Moss hype as he carries way too much baggage but he appears to be a fan favorite. I think a paragraph on his status and possible interest by the team. I personally think he’s a great talent but incredibly rude. I am sorry if that offends anyone , but that’s how I see it. Enjoy the FA time.

  7. By Moss Fan on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    lets compare 3 years

    Jones from 07-10 149 catches 2,069 yards 13 TDs

    Moss from 07-10 276 catches 4,158 yards 52 TDs

    WHAY DO YOU PEOPLE TALK?

  8. By nattybuno on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    LEORNARD DAVIS FROM COWBOYS

  9. By Daniel on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Harvey Dahl all the way. Hutch is getting up there and Dahl would fill for atleast 4-5 more good years. A strong RG and give Herrara the boot. Our line has three big time needs. Center,Rg,RT, Loadholt Is not that bad and I bet a better player on LT anyway. But If I could boost the line. Dahl would lift it up big time. Clabo would be a good fit at RT. I wanted the Vikes to Get Castonzo through the draft and trade Mckinnie. And go after Barkley or Luck next year. MacNaab could have still played. Oh well. These are the cards layed out. But the line needs a spark and Herrara moving on and picking up a future Hutch replacement sounds smart.

  10. By Frederick Jones on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    There is some controversy with the O Line because they were good in 2009, and horrible in 2010. Injuries certainly contributed to it.

    Are the Vikings ready to go into the regular season with THE SAME QUESTION MARKS about the offensive line?

    So far it seems like that would be a HUGE mistake.

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  11. By Mike B on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Sorry Mike I guess you did say something about the OT positions wihtout spelling it out. There is no need for a starting OT but possibly RG. That is what I have been thinking all along. I should have read the article better.

    Thanks

  12. By borgis on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    anyway you look at the vikings OL there could be improvement but i’d start with the cener and tackle play

  13. By Moss Fan on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Braylon Edwards ’07-’10 233 catches 3,746 yards 30TDs

    Malcom Floyd ’07-’10 116 catches 2,059 yards 11TDs

    James Jones ’07-’10 149 catches 2,069 yards 13TDs

    Randy Moss ’07-’10 276 catches 4,158 yards 52TDs

    AGIN ITS CRYSTAL CLEAR !!!!!

    I mean if we are talking about football …. were not on girlscouts. com talking feelings are we?

  14. By Parody on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    I’d like to see Harvey Dahl picked up and Herrera let go. I’m not sure why, as I don’t pay much of any attention to offensive linemen, but for guards his name stands out among the rest.

  15. By Parody on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    I just found some news that we signed Saints NT Remi Ayodele to a 3-year, $9mil contract. I haven’t heard anything about him in the past, but apparantly he’s big enough to be the big run stopping DT that we are losing with the departure of Pat Williams.

  16. By Shawn on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Parody it must be a sign no way we release a 2.5 contract in Kennedy to pick up a 3.0 contract and expect PWilliams back

  17. By Shawn on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    lol this isnt girlscouts . com

  18. By Parody on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Moss Fan – good arguments, but don’t forget to consider the guys throwing the ball. Moss had Tom Brady chucking it to him, which is naturally going to help pad his stats a bit. On the other side of it, Braylon Edwards had to get by with Sanchez as his QB, who has proven to be better at handing the ball off to a running back than throwing it deep.

    Floyd had a slightly better guy (Rivers) throwing him the ball, but still ended up with significantly worse numbers, so I’ll write him off. And the you have Jones, getting air time from a QB who is now considered one of the best, and yet his numbers are right down there with Floyd, so he ought to be a scratch as well.

    I’m not saying that Moss isn’t the best, but considering their on-field generals, the battle between Moss and Edwards is signifcantly closer than it looks.

  19. By Mike B on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    My thought is they could bring Pat Williams back at Vet Min Salary which with his years in would still be a good salary esp if he’s not playing every down. What do you all think.?

  20. By Old School on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    We will be 1-5 in the North Division alone!

    Getting ready for a Greenbay- New England SuperBowl!

    AWESOME TO BE A VIKES FAN!

    LOVE IT!!!!

    soooooooooo much to look forward to!

  21. By Parody on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Shawn – I doubt he’ll be getting 3mil in his first year. From what I’ve seen, because of the way that signing bonuses are calculated, the first year is usually plenty lower than the final year.

    I can’t find much for direct examples, but I do have numbers for Emmanuel Arceneaux, who reportedly signed a 3-year contract worth 1.215mil. What I’ve found says that his first year is 26% of that, or $320K. So if we assume the new DT is similar to this contract, then he’ll be getting 2.37mil his first year, which is still a discount from what we would have paid Kennedy.

  22. By Old School on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Sure A.P. is unhappy about Rice leaving…………when you take away the only deep threat…………….and your O-Line sucks………….Percy and the “Two Tight-End sets that everyone keeps talking about” will NOT work underneath when you can’t stretch the field!

    A.P. KNOWS THIS………..HE’S GOING TO HAVE TO FIGHT FOR EVERY YARD….JUST LIKE LAST SEASON!

    AWESOME!

  23. By Mike B on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    No this is not girlscouts.com, but Moss has issues that I think prevent him from being a Minneasota Viking. He carries too much baggage and likes the spot light too much for this new coaching core. He can’t keep his big mouth shut. He says and does what he wants without thought to the consequences. He plays big but his mouth is that much bigger. I think it’s more than this team could bear.

  24. By Parody on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Does anybody have a breakdown on Jermon Bushrod? I just read that not only is he one of the better free agent OTs right now, but that the Vikings are actively pursuing him.

  25. By Parody on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Som emore good news headlining on the front page of http://www.dailynorseman.com indicates that the Man of the Year, Madieu Williams has been cut, freeing up over 5mil in cap room.

  26. By Shawn on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    @old school … moss or no moss?

  27. By Frederick Jones on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    @Old School,

    For once we agree. “Football is played in the trenchs” is a saying that has been around since Bronco Nagurski (who played both FB and OT during his career).

    Our defensive line might be okay. But I remain skeptical about the offensive line because we have only tabbed low round draft picks.

    A.D. got stuffed at the L.O.S. many times last season. The great backs get a hole in the middle of the line once in a while. You can’t be Jim Brown anymore in the NFL, the linemen are too strong.

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  28. By Shawn on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    I love the leonard davis idea …. how old is he?

  29. By Shawn on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    @Fred … if nagurski played FB and OT, did they only have 10 guys on the field?

  30. By Mike B on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Saints resigned Jemon Bushrod, so he’s off the table. http://thevikingage.com/2011/07/28/vikings-could-be-interested-in-saints-ot-jermon-bushrod/

  31. By Frederick Jones on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    And let’s not forget…Jim Brown had two Hall of Famers blocking for him!!!

    Hutchinson could make the HOF. But it would be a tight squeeze. The great A.D. that you so adore, could use some help!!!

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  32. By Frederick Jones on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    @Shawn,

    Look up Nagurski on your Wiki.

  33. By Frederick Jones on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    A.D. could easily wind up with less than a thousand yards this year. He might get injured, or he might not be able to run inside anymore. They will take that away.

    Unless one of our unknown acquisitions at G or T, winds up becoming a superstar. Perhaps Dr. Love???

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  34. By Mike B on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    @Fred Isn’t it possible that the OL will be much impoved this year after a poor 2010. It is jus possible and looks like the coaching staff is feeling that way right now. Maybe take some of that support you have for the one not on the team QB and the other not starting QB and place some of on the OL

  35. By Frederick Jones on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    I meant OUTSIDE not Inside. They took away A.D.s ability to run inside last season. Why would he get that back?

    Maybe tomorrow the Vikings will take an Offensive Lineman? Any position would help, if he’s a Pro Bowler type.

  36. By Parody on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    I’d like to raise another question. We currently have 4-TEs on the roster, (with the presumption that Rudolph will be signed). Shiancoe and Kleinsasser are both due about $3mil this year, and Jeff Dugan is lined up $775K. With that in mind, would anybody consider cutting either Kleinsasser or Dugan, or both?

    Kleinsasser has been a productive blocker for the Vikings his entire career, and has proven that he can make a play with the ball when called upon, but would it make more sense to free up the cap room now that we have a quality rookie on board?

    Dugan has yet to do anything to wow me, so I’d be just fine if we cut him, especially since there’s news that an undrafted TE/FB was signed in the past couple of days. For a #3 or #4 TE, I don’t think that we need to keep stringing along a guy like Dugan. Better off to let the undrafted rookie get a feel for the game in his place.

  37. By Frederick Jones on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    @Mike B.,

    Hopefully Frazier, Spielman, and Singletary have a great plan for improving the personnel on our Offensive Line.

    Notice that most of the money is being spent for the Offensive “glory” positions.
    We need to balance that a little. We need defensive backs and offensive linemen!

    They are the BACKBONE of a football team.

    Maybe Marcus Sherels will come through at CB. He is quick and gutsy.

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  38. By Daniel on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    We could use a good FB. FBs can be a dangerous threat, both to block and to catch in space. I liked it when we had Richardson here. Our line is not that bad right now. But the age is really glaring on the left. Could Mckinnie take more pepper beatings? That as we all know looked bad. All I think of with him is his big old arms dragging on the ground chasing an end. HE HAS NO PUNCH LEFT! no power! The three old pieces on the line right now is not building for the long haul.

  39. By Mike B on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Cutting Kliensasser would be a very gutsy move could cause some fan and team motivation issues. Dugan is expendible.

  40. By Moss Fan on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Parody … I was a bit suprised by Braylons numbers and wouldnt be against getting him, I understand Moss haters a little … media brainwashing, and hurt feelings .

    But when you have one of the 50 greatest Vikings of all time as voted by the fans available … and statistically he is the best available, and you know a superstar will be working hard to prove the haters wrong …. WHAT IS THERE TO THINK ABOUT?

    ITS A NO BRAINER … unless your feelings got hurt, is this girlscouts . com?

  41. By Moss Fan on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    i guess it comes down to …

    free speech vs DUIs

    some people need only nice things like butterflies and unicorns and others are men

  42. By Mike B on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    @Moss Fan need to get over it almost everyone know Moss is a sphincter and no one whats a sphincter around.

  43. By Mike B on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    oops spelling wants

  44. By Moss Fan on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    if you hate free speech more than you wont like Moss

    if you hate DUIs more than you wont like Edwards

  45. By Frederick Jones on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    @Moss Fan,

    Speaking of it not being girlscouts.com, why do some people get upset when I try to drum up support for obtaining a Pro Bowler type Offensive Lineman?

    Is a guard as important as a wide receiver? Is a tackle as important as a tight end? Is a center as important as a running back?

    These are questions which need answering.

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  46. By Moss Fan on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    @Mike B … I wont bust chops for spelling, just poor football choices. Bringing Moss in is a football choice and not bringing him in is an overly sensitive wah wah choice.

    Funny how strong coaches do well with Moss and wah wah coaches dont …

  47. By Moss Fan on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    @Fred … I dont know, I like your push for a stronger OL but I dont know many OLmen unless they made the ProBowl … so for me I cant make a good argument for OLmen

  48. By Carl Brodin on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    We need love to show us something and get rid of either Herrera or Mckinnie to go to clear some more cap room. Sign Braylon Edwards and get rid of Bernard Berrian we could use more cap room. I would like to see what either Sherrals or Burton the 4th round draft pick or Raymond our fifth round draft pick can get done. I dont think Love being the left tackle is such a bad idea after all he will probably have a tight end to help with the blocking. What need to see what the center we drafteed can do. We also need to sign a name S. What do you people think of my idea’s?

  49. By cyberseduction14 on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    jared allen for larry fitzgerald

  50. By Daniel on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Well Thank goodness! Williams is gone. Finally. Now, please….Berrian! Come on front office. You guys need to make some big time moves. Don`t stop with williams. Moss Would not be bad, but Roy Williams sounds better. So does Dahl over herrera. So does Pollard or Tenard Jackson. Get rid of Kliensassage. Dude needs to retire.

  51. By Moss Fan on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    @CarlBrodin … I like your ideas mostly but like i just posted i dont have a good grasp on OL players except for Vikings and I would say Sullivan was our weak spot …. I like Moss :) better than Edwards but am not against Edwards and as far as Safety … I like Roman Harper from the saints or Atari Bigby from the packers

  52. By Moss Fan on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Since we have Shianco and Rudolph … I say get rid of Tahi and put Kleisasser at FB, hes played there before

  53. By Moss Fan on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    @cyber … thats a horrible deal, Jared Allen is a Viking and Fitz will be a UFA next offseason

  54. By Moss Fan on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    @Fred Jones yes a Guard is as important as a WR, football is the greatest team sport and your only as strong as your weakest link

  55. By Daniel on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Someone pull up The prices on these great lineman. Mcinnie will blow your mind. Think of that cap space for a younger quicker guy who would lock that side down. I think Claybo could hold it down.

  56. By Frederick Jones on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    @Carl Brodin,

    I like most of your ideas. Most people just want to talk about wrs, qbs, te, and rbs. Sometimes I am one of them.

    Balance is neaded on a football team. You can’t just have a great qb, or a great back. You have to be strong in all areas.

    So why are the Vikings neglecting db and ol? I don’t understand that attitude.

  57. By Mike B on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    is it possible they are okie be dokie with the OL as is

  58. By Frederick Jones on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    @Mike B.,

    ““`Maybe what Vikings management is trying to do is bring in a lot
    of no-name guys that are hungry, and will have good attitudes.

  59. By Carl K on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Harvey Dahl is #19 on SI top 50 free agents. He is one of the best run blockers in the NFL.

    Mike Wobs- Harvey Dahl, a back up to Herrera?? Really?

  60. By Frederick Jones on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    If we lose all 3 qbs due to injuries, if all day can’t gain 1000 yards, or if opposing teams rack up 4000 yards passing this year, don’t come cryin’ ta me!

  61. By Frederick Jones on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    @Carl K,

    Mike Wobschall doesn’t want to get beat up by the Vikings offensive line. They are big dudes, I don’t blame him!

  62. By Carl K on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Mike Wobschall- Ryan Cook is a free agent and he is a top backup at OT for the Vikings. Why would you say OT is not a position of need?? Who would replace R Cook? I think the Vikings would be smart to look at all the available players even OT.

  63. By Frederick Jones on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    I hope and pray, that when the season starts “bloggers” are writing to me telling me how wrong I was about the Vikings neglecting the offensive line talent pool.~~~~

    There is hope that the Vikings will get a pro bowl type lineman yet.

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  64. By Carl K on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Frederick – You make a good point. Our OL guys are big boys I would want to mess with.

  65. By Frederick Jones on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    @Carl K,

    I thought the same way about Mike W.’s remarks about the tackle position.
    Perhaps Mckinnie played hurt all season? Maybe Loadholt did as well.

    They sure played like they were hurt!!!

  66. By Shawn on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Well it looks like we backed off on the James Jones garbage …. but I am concerned about where we are in relation to the Salary cap and when will we lock down Peterson and Greenway? or next offseason will we lose one of them because we had to franchise the other just like Rice and Greenway this year …. I think our coaches made the right decision but those to guys contracts are as inportant as anyones right now

  67. By Touchdown on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    @Frederick Jones our Corners are in good shape right now. I wouldn’t suggest the Vikings get any Corner except Clements. Then we move Chris Cook to Safety use Winfield as our Nickel, Griffen and Clements be our starters and use Asher Allen and Brandon Burton as backups. Secondary problem fixed. Offensive line wise, I think we need to release Herrera and sign a veteran guard. Mckinnie gets his last chance this year. And I think the we should get Braylon and Moss or TO and Moss. I know it’s crazy but listen, Moss comes cheap, he has better hands then Berrian and even Sidney, I know he has an attitude but if Leslie Frasier is Tony Dungey reincarnated then I think he can handle Moss. I don’t think he can tear apart our Franchise more than he did last year. So I say we take the risk give Mcnabb/Ponder/Webb a weapon. And I was against Moss earlier today.

  68. By Carl K on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Shawn- I am not sure if the Vikings backed off of James Jones? My question is, S. Rice will officially sign his deal with the Seahawk after 5 on Friday, so can the Vikings still out bid Seattle at the last minute? What are the rules? I have seen a couple players change their mind on deals that were agreed upon.

    If the Vikings don’t sign a WR… does that mean there is hope the Vikings might have a last second offer for Rice?

  69. By Carl K on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    officially, teams and players should only be in a negotiating stage or period until 5 Friday. I think it is strange that the media is making it look like deals are final right now.

  70. By Daniel on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Tell me the James jones stuff is gone. He is not an answer at all. A deep bomb threat is a solution at wide out. All teams safties will try to lock up the box and I could see roy williams, Edwards, or Moss to streak the sideline. Out of those three as a fit with hands, attitude, and big play ability, I really think Williams would be a cheap, great addition for us. Remember him in Det? He was a Great WR, and fun to watch too. Moss and Mcnaab has a T.O. Mcnaab feel to it. Not a chance I like for my vikes. I have a feeling the OL will be Really repaired next year. maybe herrera might go (hope so) if he does, I say Dahl, or davin from TB.

  71. By Daniel on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Anyone hear the rumor about the vikes chasing jennings from the packers?

  72. By peever on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    how big is kliensasser….could he move to rt guard and prolong his carreer…and I agree ot IS a position of need…mckinnie has concrete boots..and its A.P….not AD…der

  73. By J. Webstar on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    A.D. is peterson’s nickname, it stands for All Day

  74. By sandiamond on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    I knew frederick would cause this……..+ new OL board

  75. By Titus on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Why no news on MCNabb? It is official now and there is nothing on vikings.com.
    Someone not at their post?

  76. By JIm M on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    I simply don’t understand Mike W and the Vikings when they say we’re fine at OT. In MHO McKinnie can’t slap his ass with either hand. I’ve said it before the draft and I say it now. Our biggest need was the O-line and then the D-line. The current coaching staff is not much better than the last one. Frazier went for the glitz instead of the meat and potatoes.

  77. By Titus on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    I cannot wait for the season– I think we will be 11-5, or 12-4.

  78. By Titus on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    McDome for the NFC championship game!

  79. By sean on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    titus yes it is official

  80. By John on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Lets resign Ryan Cook. He was great at center last year and a much better guard than Herrera. Don’t let a good thing get away when it is right under your nose.

  81. By Titus on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Sean, that is what I said– It is official. I am wondering why no headlines about it on this website, nor a blog on it–If it had been Favre, we would have helicopters letting balloons fall on the city, and this site would have photos of him plastered across the homepage.

  82. By desmond on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    I live in Canada the Vikes got a real blue chipper in that Arcenaux kid …kinda like Wes Welker with more speed….nuff said……..Go VIKES

  83. By CA Norwegian on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Fred – though the tackles were mismatched by speed last year, I think the double TE sets will offset that. I think they will show well this year. Lots of running with AP and Toby. I like spending for the elite Center/Guards. I like the Kleinsasser but if we loose him, try Sully at pass block FB. He matches up against speed pass rushers (Matthews), and can move well for a big guy. But he dosn’t match well against dominant interrior linemen. Try to get someone who can or if a new guy or Cook rises up, then go with them. Sully can then become a playing backup for center. Roster numbers are an important game within the game.

  84. By Ben on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    I really think we should go with a cheaper receiver next year Fitzgerald is a free agent and His home is Minnesota….. get Dahl Drop Herrera try Mckinnie this year and if bad again let him go next year go for a replacement

  85. By sean on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    sorry i misread that i thought it said is it official. lol

  86. By Arrow86 on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Mike’s story on available O-linemen was pointless sense he basicly has reached his own conclusion that the Vikings have a solid O-line. I know it has been 7 or 8 monthes since I watched my Vikes, but, unless the O-line had an unspoken mutiny against anyone playing quarterback for the team, I think we need to upgrade. We’re in a division with Suh and Fairley in Detroit, Peppers in Chicago, and Matthews and Company in Green bay we have to evaluate every spot in that line.

    I do believe with the short time span for teams to get under the cap and sign free agents, that a team way off the radar may end up going deep in the playoffs with these late editions. In the NFC west you have to watch Seattle as they have picked up a few quality players, and they play in a division where .500 may get you in the playoffs. New England and the Jets will battle for supremacy now with Ochoacinco, and Haynesworth going to the Pats. Could the Vikes use Banta-Cain? What are characteristics that Coach Singletary will look for in his linebackers?

  87. By animal26 on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Mike Wobschall: how has McKinney been doing? did he get down to his collage playing weight, like he said he was going to at the end of last year, or has he been slacking off and really hasn’t changed?

  88. By Frederick Jones on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Just for fun on a scale of 1-10, here are my position breakdowns,
    10 being good, 1 being bad:

    QB: 8 McNabb is great, will he fit in here?
    RB: 9 Fullback is still a question here.
    TE: 9 If Kyle Rudolph works out this could be a 10
    WR: 7 Losing Rice may hurt, and we have some unknowns.
    OL: 4 We did get some depth here. Can the rookies turn things around?
    DL: 7 Currently we don’t have Ray Edwards.
    LB: 7 Depth seems to be a question here.
    DB: 5 Bring back John “Burn me deep” Turner. He’ll help the current bunch give up a quick six. I’m not sure they will need any help with that!!!
    Sp. Teams: 5 Like the offensive line, not much has changed here to the naked eye of this fanatical fan.

  89. By Frederick Jones on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    The Vikings have made some positive moves. Clearly they have to do something about the defensive backfield, and offensive line. A move like that would also help the special teams since many of those players will come from those “tools of ignorance” positions.

  90. By Frederick Jones on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    Speaking of “backing the wrong horse,” the Vikings need some.

    Right now we are “putting the cart before the horse.” A.D./Don McNabb/Harvin, is a wonderful looking cart.

    Whar dem horsies?

    :) :) :( :) :)
    ~~~~~~~~~:(

    ~~~~~~~~~:(

  91. By Purple08 on Jul 28, 2011 | Reply

    What??!!! No full page image of Mcnabb on the website? I guess only Lord Favre gets the royal treatment? Wonder if they will have Mcnabb Cam on the sidelines all year? Probably not! It will be so sad this year without Brettstock 24/7! Oh well… I guess maybe we will have to settle for some regular old football. I was getting so used to watching the side show circus and listening to adoring fans worship the most overrated QB in nfl history that I almost forgot about the rest of the team. I wonder if Vikings fans will shower Donovan with praise even if he can’t win games? I wonder if they will blame the coaching staff and other players if he throws some pics and costs us the season and breaks our hearts once again? Don’t count on it. Vikings fans will throw him and the management team under the bus as soon as the Vikings start losing games like they do every year. But not good old Brett! God Bless Favre… he is such a hero just for showing up to the game. What courage! What an honour it was for all of us to be graced by his presence! Good luck Donovan Mcnabb. You are going to need it. You have some mighty big shoes to fill.

  92. By animal26 on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    where did that come from Purple08?

  93. By Arrow86 on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    All I have to say is the free agent money is beyond absurd. How is USC supposed to keep up with all this!!!!!! HA!

  94. By Arrow86 on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    Purple 08 I do think Donovan will be a great addition to our Vikes. I used to coach, but I didn’t coach football. But I have always admired how Donovan has handled and deflected controversy. He is a standup guy and takes more responsibility for his teams poor play, than a lot of quarterbacks are comfortable with. This will help Coach Frazier as well. He also will be a good mentor to Ponder or Webb. If Webb isn’t under center, his athletic ability needs to be on the field at another position.

  95. By Arrow86 on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    Frederick: Do you know anything about the player the Vikes picked up before the lockout from the CFL? A canadien fan from another blog said the guy is amazing. THey also picked up a defensive end from a pro-league in Texas. I don’t know anything about either, let alone their names.

    How about Marion Barber filling a Chester Taylor role with the purple? Will he cost too much?

  96. By Lance The Red on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    @ Arrow his name is Emmanuel Arceneaux Look him up on youtube he played with the BC lions and he was amazing and very athletic and catches the ball lol He might be what we need to replace rice with and he can stretch the field.

    The vikings added him after the CFL season ended when his contract was over with BC. A lot of teams had eyes on him in the NFL. Our site has him on the roster but they say he no experience and nothing about him. Tho that doesnt surprise me our website is rarely updated compared to other team sites :(

  97. By Lance The Red on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    In fact here is the annoucement about him on NFL.com when vikings signed him.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81dea0b0/article/vikings-sign-excfl-wideout-arceneaux-to-threeyear-deal

  98. By DuaneN on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    A lot of truth there Purple08. Won’t be no helicopters following McNabb, that’s for sure. I can already hear the boos for McNabb, won’t take long.

    Watching Favre fall apart last year is not going to make it easy for McNabb. Then you add the Ponder “reach” and all you get is a bunch of frustration.

    Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t think everybody would be nearly as frustrated right now if we had just picked Mallett. Football gods tried to hand him to us, but no, we gotta take the guy who talks better.

    I don’t wanna hear about Mallett’s bad attitude or immaturity for not picking him, what a joke. I guarantee Big Ben interviewed well and he turned out to be a total piece of s!*t, but since he has already proven he can win it’s okay.

  99. By DuaneN on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    Frederick, dem horsies are on other peoples ranches.

    Vikings are not ignoring them, they just can’t see them or trade for them.

  100. By PAUL M. on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    THE VIKINGS ARE OBVIOUSLY IN PENNY-PINCHING MODE. WHAT, WITH THE NEW STADIUM & ALL. . .

    VERY DISAPPOINTED WE DIDN’T PAY THE EXTRAORDINARILY REASONABLE PRICE TO KEEP SIDNEY – A PREMIUM WR WHO I DON’T BELIEVE HAS EVEN REACHED HIS PEAK YET!!!

    IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK THE FRONT OFFICE GRINCHES TO PAY FOR THE PREMIER CB IN THE NFL? ASOMUGHA IS IN HIS PRIME & WOULD BE A TERROR AS A VIKING, ALLOWING FOR MANY MORE HURRIES & SACKS FOR SEVERAL YEARS TO COME!

  101. By Carl K on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    It will be interesting to see how many players that have reached an agreement in principle to go to another team, but then decide not to actually sign the paperwork.. I don’t think players can go visit other teams until tonight. So maybe there is hope Rice will change his mind.

    If Sideny is still in town… maybe AP and McNabb are talking him out of going to Seattle.
    SPEILMAN – Give Sidney one last offer!!!!!!

  102. By vinny n on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    well since we are talking OL i say we pick up blalock he is well known with the off. coordinator we picked up.let me jump back onthe subject from yesterday wr. go out and get burress or the wr from GB.you know why you are at it the top cb still out there our secondary sucks eggs and causes the d line to tire down because they do not lockdown

  103. By CA Norwegian on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    Pro Bowler G-
    Brian Waters released by KC… If it is salary cap thing, maybe we could get for cheap.

  104. By Carl K on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    WR Santonio Holmes signed a 5yr deal with the Jets at 50 Million! Holmes is 3 years older than Sidney Rice, and many people had Sidney ranked as a better a better free agent prospect than Holmes. Holmes only had 52 receptions for 746 yrds last year. He has only had 1 year over 70 receptions!

    C’mon Vikings match that 44 million deal the Seahawks have on the table for Rice. HE IS WORTH IT!

  105. By CA Norwegian on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    Bears picked up Roy Williams… Were we in the hunt? I know the boys were bad last year, but I guess we were too. This cast off might have been good enough here, for cheap.

  106. By CA Norwegian on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    It is always good to have guys who have an axe to grind against an old team, you may se in the playoffs. (If we get the blocking working.)

  107. By CA Norwegian on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    @Carl K – If we can still keep him, and this is posturing, RIGHT ON i’ll send in a twenty to keep Sidney $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

  108. By Lance The Red on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    this reminds me of how we lost brian burke :(

  109. By Lance The Red on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    sorry matt birk

  110. By Lance The Red on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    then last year it was chester taylor we did it too :( both of those players we thought would resign so we waited on a contract. :(

    Now it’s sidney rice why do we wait to try and sign him? this should have been before the season ended last year and re worked this stuff out.

  111. By CA Norwegian on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    Did they sign Ponder? Isd McNabb a bargaining chip to make his contract worth less?

  112. By Carl K on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    CA- I will send in a twenty, to keep Rice too.

  113. By Lance The Red on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    as of so far none of the draft picks have been signed yet. Not sure if they are waiting till sunday when our training camps open.

  114. By CA Norwegian on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    Pay Asomugha, HE IS WHAT WE NEED MOST, WERE IN A PASS HAPPY DIVISION – Free up Winfield to do more tackles for loss, and increase the 3rd and longs for the other guys.

  115. By Carl K on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    I think Ponder will sign today. His salary is based more on what kind of deals the guys that were drafted just a head of him get. Based on the guys that have signed already (Nick Fairly-drafted behind Ponder got a 4yr 10million contract with Detroit.) I would say Ponder is looking at 4yrs 12 million, butI would keep an eye on what Locker gets if I were Ponder.

  116. By animal26 on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    We don’t have that kind of money to spend on a free agent CA Norwegian. Would be nice to get him, but we just cant afford him.

  117. By drew on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    There are tons of players that won’t drafter. But our problem is we don’t want to spend the money on key players. We need offensive help, corner help, and who’s going to be our go to guy at receiver?

  118. By Nick@Night on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    The vikes need to stick with the line we have. the only way to really get a good line is to draft young guys and have the coaches teach them how to do it the viking way from day 1. that way we can mold each guy the way we want him and need him to play. wr is a huge issue right now! we need a guy to stretch the defense so that AP is not having an 8th man in the box every time he runs. also, two tight end sets are great if you have guys that can block and catch. visanthe is a great receiving tight end and rudolph comes from the same mold but these guys r not blockers. big jim is a great blocker but lacks soft hands. we need a combo of these three guys but rolled into one man and then we need two of those guys to play the double TE sets. thats just the offense! now to the defense… our d line is going to be fine as long as they can stay healthy. line backer is something that could b improved very cheap by signing an older vet who just wants to play for a winner. we still have chad, Ej, brinkley and i believe we should resign erin as well. when it comes to the secondary we have tons of issues. besides winfield and his incredible ability to tackle and make big plays we dont really know what we have. lets start with cedric… he is comin off of his second season ending knee injury in a row. he came back last year better than ever and was developing into a #1 cb but was struck another knee injury requiring reconstruction. so who knows if he will be healthy the whole 2011 season. second, our safeties struggle to keep wrs from getting behind them and even when they do that they cant tackle to save their own lives. although i will say that abdullah showed some life at the end of the season and i think he could be a capable stater at FS if he keeps improving this year. now am i the only one who thinks antoine would be great at SS?? hes getting to slow to cover the deep route at corner but he still tackles like a machine and always knows where to be. move him to SS and play him at nickel corner in 3 or more WR sets allowing us to put in an even faster guy at SS during those plays. Give chris cook, asher allen and all the rookie DB’s we got to have a chance on the field. the only way they get better is by playing. with that said… i still think a mid to high level corner is a needed acquisition this free agency. Carlos rogers would be great with his ability to play the man press routine. finally, our special teams needs to get more consistent. stop giving up touchdowns and start creating our own. i know its a huge risk of injury but percy needs to be returning all kicks n punts! lets face it people, hes our x factor player. he can be a WR, HB, KR and who knows what else. lets use him to the fullest. stop protecting him. Unleash percy like urban meyer did while he was a gator! lemme know what you think everyone. i come off as a know it all but i like getting other peoples opinions!

  119. By edgypadre on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    Can the coaching staff get better production from our offensive tackles? I can still picture the lame oak(mckinnie) standing around, hands on hips, looking down at Bret as he was being mauled(this happened far more than once) The same will happen to McNabb or whoever unless the OL is improved dramatically. About WR..Moss is still the best. McNabb to Moss: 80 receptions, 900 yds, 15 tds is not inconceivable. Moss requires only one thing to make him happy: keep him involved,THROW HIM THE #*@& BALL.

  120. By purplefizz on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    @ nick@night, if you are trying to take the ACT writing exam, you are at the wrong site.

  121. By purplefizz on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    to whoever thinks randy moss is motivated to prove haters wrong, im afraid randy will prove you wrong for believing in him. if he didnt work his @ss off last season to get that big contract he wanted so badly, what makes you think he will work his butt off this season for a team that will probably pay him the vet minimum? get real, randy moss is nothing but a name now, his production has declined ever since his final years in NE.

  122. By Meekay on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    I agree that OL should be the focus right now. I think Webb could be a viable deep threat and he’s already on the roster. I can’t even guess how big a need our secondary is with all the injuries last season. Hopefully it will be ok.

  123. By Vikes Fan 4 Life on Jul 29, 2011 | Reply

    Here are 2 guards that we should be looking at for sure. 11 year 5X Pro Bowl guard from KC Chiefs Brian Waters just cut by them. My 1st choice would be the younger 4 year guard from Saints Carl Nicks.

  124. By Rick J on Jul 30, 2011 | Reply

    Cannot imagine feeling that O line does not need improvement via new players. I got tired of watching Favre get creamed and iron man or not, you can only take so much……….deep threat? Well, on most plays they had 2 seconds to make it happen, then bob and weave time for qb or sack time. Other qb s showed their fragility except Webb and Favre. Hope McNabb loses a little weight and can scramble cuz he is going to have to.

  125. By sota on Jul 30, 2011 | Reply

    The vikings got Mcnabb, but the biggest problem last year was the play from the center of the offensive line. We have the best running back in the game who got very little help last year. AP run through the holes! ” oh yeah there were none” we are going to be in for a very long season if we get the same sub par play from the middle three guys in the O line. I for one am Greatly disappointed this has not been addressed. I see another 6-10 season ahead.

  126. By borgis on Jul 30, 2011 | Reply

    hey, its’ good everybody is fired up. to vikings staff, you got the musk,you got jenkins get blalock. seems real to me, and its long term sense

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