Blogs Readers Support Arden Hills/Ramsey County Proposal

Posted by Mike Wobschall on May 16, 2011 – 6:27 am

At the end of last week we asked readers to let us know what they think of the Arden Hills/Ramsey County stadium proposal that was unveiled at the beginning of last week. It’s an issue that certainly has more than one side, but based on your comments it’s clear that Blog readers generally support the plan.

Below I’ve highlighted a few of the readers’ comments, both in support and opposition of the proposal. Take a read through them and don’t be afraid to leave your own comment below this entry…

As a lifelong Vikings fan and a lifelong New Orleans resident, I cannot be more ecstatic about this news!!! I know the legislature has to approve everything first, but this is certainly a step in the right direction!! And when the stadium opens for Game 1, I’ll hop a flight to Arden Hills!!! Skol baby!!!!
— alan

This stadium proposal is great. This will provide a first-class facility for the Vikings. It will benefit MN in so many ways the funds spent on this will come back many times over in the future. Don’t let the cost blind side the tax payers. This is a money mine for the state. Those wages will be spent in MN and the taxes generated from this stadium will pay for this many times over. It is great the parking will be close to the stadium for true tailgating. So many pluses I hope MN’s legislature will approve in a very short time.
— Mike B.

I am excited about the Arden Hills location. The Metrodome was ok. I enjoyed it being downtown but space was always a problem. Parking issues for games was always terrible and the people selling $25 spots to park for a few hours will be nice to be done with. I know that parking will cost no matter where the stadium is but that was bad and would never correct itself. Using a location that needed to be cleaned up anyway is a great payoff. I am also glad they chose a retractable facility. In my opinion spending this much money on a facility you need to be able to use it more than a handful of Sundays a year.
— Mike

The deal look ok, the only thing I wish the legislators would do is create a referendum and let the people decide on whether they agree on accepting an increase in taxes to build this thing.
— animal26

The arrogance to ask/demand anyone but the owners pay for the stadium is sickening. I’ll pay for a stadium when they pay for my house.
— Ron H.

Great!!! Now get All Minnesotans to see the BIG PICTURE. Whether you are or aren’t a football fan…this deal will generate $$$ for the STATE OF MINNESOTA. Tourism, hotels, restaurants, etc….So you see this is bigger than football…It makes Economic sense!!! JUST DO IT!!!!! A WIN –WIN
— Dan Rehome

I LOVE THE ARDEN HILLS site, Best thing to happen to MN in a long time. Thank you Zygi and Mark Wilf and Arden Hills. Don’t give up the fight.
— Steve

While I like the Arden Hills site, I think the existing Metrodome site seems to make the most sense in terms of the infrastructure. I think there are going to be problems getting this through legislation with the amount of roadway improvements needed to the Arden Hills site. I love the fact that the stadium construction adds 9,000+ construction jobs. And while yes, I understand many folks have a hard time with public taxes being used for sports stadiums, this is a no-brainer and the return far outweighs the public investment. Bravo to the Vikings, the State and Ramsey County and yes, there are a lot of us out there that get the “big picture” of what this stadium provides. I’m very grateful we have class ownership in the Wilf Family. You’re appreciated by us Viking Fans and we thank you for doing so much in moving this organization forward for years to come.
— T SH

I think Arden Hills is perfect! I think the possibility of tailgating alone is a good enough reason to build it there. Vikings Hall of Fame and a retractable roof, bring it on! Bring on Green Bay, just like Bud said!!
— BleedingPurpleinAlaska

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57 Responses to “ Readers Support Arden Hills/Ramsey County Proposal”

  1. By no1vikingsfan on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    @ Ron H above. If the state agrees to pay for your house will you agree to open your doors to the public? Ohhh!! I didn’t think so!

  2. By NovaScotiaVike on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    @ Ron H; As everyone can see from my name, I am not a Minnesota taxpayer by any means, but I am an ardent Vikings fan since /68. I have travelled to many Viking games, both home and away, spending tens of thousands of dollars on hotel rooms, meals, souvenirs,bar tabs etc., with NO COMPLAINTS. I may have not paid for your house, but I have at least contributed to the economy in your fine city. .By no means am I the only fan who does this on a regular basis.I only wish the Vikings were located 10 miles from my home. Pay for your own house and support your local community and local team.

  3. By NovaScotiaVike on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    Just wondering, how long will Brad Childress’ name (in huge letters) continue to “grace” this web page? It HAS to be bad luck, sort of like keeping Ryan Leaf’s name on the Charger’s site.

  4. By no1vikingsfan on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    I been wondering that myself and Green Bay Packers legend Brett Favre’s name can disappear also.

  5. By Rick on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    Just waiting for titus to get on here with his grammar lessons LoL. Any who I’m so happy about this deal getting done and where not talkin about the L.A. VIKINGS. Like Bud Grant said Bring it on Green Bay!!!!1

  6. By DRS on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    2 Vikings Fans to Tailgate at Capitol for Stadium Support
    Published : Monday, 09 May 2011, 12:45 PM CDT
    by Leif Knutson / FOX 9 News

    ST. PAUL, Minn. – A pair of Vikings stadium supporters will tailgate on the steps of St. Paul’s State Capitol building Tuesday. Larry Spooner has a permit for he and his wife to begin “pregaming” at 4 a.m. in support of Minneapolis’ plan to finance a new football stadium at the Metrodome site in downtown Minneapolis.

    Spooner personally prefers the stadium be built in Arden Hills, where he’ll have room to tailgate before home games, but as long as a stadium gets built, he’ll be happy.

    Spooner is a co-chair, along with Vikings coaching great and Hall of Famer Bud Grant, of a stadium support group called MN Momentum. The tailgating on the capitol steps was organized by Spooner outside of his involvement with MN Momentum

    Read more: Vikings Fans to Tailgate at Capitol for Stadium Support

  7. By DRS on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    A Met Council review of the impact of a stadium proposal is needed, said Rep. Michael Beard, R-Shakopee, chairman of the House Transportation Policy and Finance Committee and a critic of the council’s transit management. “If there’s something of this size and regional significance, I think the Met Council is required to review it and make recommendations on how it impacts … transportation,” Beard said.

    But some other major projects have not been reviewed for their effect on the surrounding area, including Target Field, whose enabling legislation was borrowed for the Vikings bill. “The bill was drafted to exempt it from that process, just as the Twins ballpark was,” Bagley said.

    That’s because Target Field is on the west side of downtown Minneapolis, where roads were already in place, Elkins said. “It didn’t require any changes to the transportation plan. It probably provided an impetus for extending light-rail west another block.”
    Pat Doyle • 612-673-4504

  8. By DRS on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    With 10 days left before the Legislature is set to adjourn, Dayton said that passing legislation so that work could start on a new Vikings’ stadium was “far less preferable [but] it might be more preferable than no bill.”
    However, he said that passing stadium legislation without the details being resolved — such as the road improvements — might be giving the project a “blank check.”
    “I don’t think they should be asked to” do that, Dayton said of the Legislature.

  9. By DRS on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    Gov. Dayton if you do not want a new stadium let me know for I am sure I can get New Mexico to build a new roofless stadium for the Vikings, or as they would be called the New Mexico Road Runners. With TX, AZ, and CO being so close to us.

    Have a great day one and all.

  10. By no1vikingsfan on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    Kiss our Viking loving rears DRS.

  11. By NovaScotiaVike on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    DRS, perhaps you should ask the potential owners in New Mexico if they know the meaning of the word “indemnity.” This would be the rediculously huge sum paid to the Cardinals, Broncos, Cowboys and possibly Texans should the “Road Runners” wish to infringe on their markets.

  12. By NovaScotiaVike on May 16, 2011 | Reply


  13. By DRS on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    no1vikingsfan-why are you such an A-hole, It is your lawmakers who are doing your rear. I am only giving you the news and that is that your lawmakers do not want the Vikings in your State! If they wanted the Vikings, they would finally get the Vikings their new stadium. Why do they wait? By the way A-Hole licker, do you ever read what is posted, and understand what is in front of you, I have been a Vikings fan sense 1968, how about you?

    Have to go and I hope the Vikings get their new stadium; God bless U-All, even you no1vikingsfan.

  14. By DRS on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    BTW, they may want to pay the Cardinals, Broncos, Cowboys and possibly Texans should the “Road Runners” wish to infringe on their markets, there is a possibility for a strong showing down here. However, I would like to see the Viking to stay in MN.

  15. By DRS on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    NovaScotiaVike, That would be the same for any new team in any state.

  16. By DRS on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    That is paying the right to have NFL team in the area.

  17. By DuaneN on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    Do whatever it takes, I don’t care. It’s not like they use our taxes well. Just give us something we actually like are entertained by.

    I’ll buy whatever products, lottery stuff that helps fund the stadium.

    If the goon politicians let the team leave please make sure to change our state name to East Dakota.

  18. By vikingintexas on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    Some of you are fools ! — Yes its good to get something done. But do you want some cheese with that wine ! — Parking, Hotel, etc… — GET A GRIP !!! — I fly from Texas, ride the rail in & out, stay for 60 to 75 dollors a night, go to more games than most of you who live there ! — Minn/St.Paul investors lose on this ! — You should feel bad for downtown ! — The little man is their too ! — YOU THINK ITS NOT GOING TO COST FOR ANYTHING THERE !!! — All these things are made now days for MAX-PROFIT ! — I know, I’ve been to most of them. — *** Here is the most fair plan. *** Work out a deal with MU, (yes, no drinking inside, NCAA rules, most of you need to sober up anyway) BLOWUP the DOME ! , New one there in the shape of a VIKING SHIP ! , new routes for the rail, wait ! that makes money for the city ! — also cheaper for the fans ! — NO, their going to put it in a place that only the lucky few will make any money. Oh yea, don’t forget we ALL must park at the new site ! — Maybe it will be free ! — Me, I’ll do the same as I’ve always done. FLY IN, RENT A LUX/CAR, GO TO THE ZOO (both, most of my money goes to Como) and stay in a nice hotel south of MSP. CHANGE ? YES, I will drive and PAY FOR PARKING ! — BUT other than TICKETS and PARKING, I will spend nothing ” in the hills ” —I will always visit DOWNTOWN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  19. By Frederick Jones on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    It’s hard to argue with DuaneN,

    The Twins stink right now. The Wolves have never really done much. The Wild? Don’t ask. The Vikings struggled last year, and have some unresolved issues (make your own list ! lol)

    Yet, I still believe the Vikings will finish .500 or above this year.

    (And we will avoid being called East Dakota.)

  20. By Frederick Jones on May 16, 2011 | Reply


    Thanx for writing in, it’s nice to hear your perspective.

  21. By NovaScotiaVike on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    There is a big difference in paying off one team (like when the Jets had to reimburse the Giants at the merger,) and paying off three or four teams.

  22. By Larry J on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    This site will do a lot for Minnesota, Ramsey County and especially Arden Hills. Youth, families, seniors and local businesses will thrive from this new concept. For every negative, their are two positives. Support it, Vote for it, and be a unity of job creation, state recognition and community involvement.

    Put me on your support staff, I will stand with you all the way…

  23. By Frederick Jones on May 16, 2011 | Reply


    I don’t care how many times you run the ball, or use offensive dipsy doodle wide recievers, or wildCAT schemes.


  24. By Carl K on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    @vikingintexas – No one is saying you have to spend your money in Arden Hills. Just because the stadium could be located in Arden Hills doesn’t mean you can’t stay and enjoy downtown too! You are right that many people like yourself will choose to stay and enjoy the downtown area. So, I don’t think we should feel bad for downtown… nor should we feel Minn/St. Paul investors will lose on this. They will only lose if the Vikings move to LA.

    I think you need cheese with your wine.

  25. By Mike B on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    @Fred You’re right they are big men. Better not say anything bad about em. Take care

  26. By Shawn on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    By Frederick Jones on May 16, 2011 | Reply



    So you admit we have a good offensive line :)

  27. By Shawn on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    Ponder to work out with Rice and Harvin

  28. By Shawn on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    Adrian Peterson had 1,298 yards behind a good offensive line in 2010

  29. By Frederick Jones on May 16, 2011 | Reply


    Okay, Okay you got me. But A.D. (ALL DAY) is supposed to be the best back in the NFL, if not all time.

    I hope he runs for 2300 yards this year. That is WHY I want a GREAT offensive line !

    And if he runs for 1500 at 3.7 per carry, that’s still not good enough for a back of his talents.

    Remember Barely Sanders of the Detroit Lions. No misspelling here. He went from Barry Sanders to Barely Sanders because of a death, paralyzing injury, and some other things to his OFFENSIVE LINE.

  30. By Frederick Jones on May 16, 2011 | Reply


    I am rooting for an offensive line. Shukin’ it’s not how many, because I think we have good depth now. We need a na sty run blocker, like Mi ck Tingelhoff or Ed White.

  31. By DRS on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    NovaScotiaVike, I know it would be the NFL that would determine what a team would have to pay for the right to play in an area. I will have to ask my good friends say within the NFL.

  32. By DRS on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    Here is hoping the politicians vote to keep the Vikings in Minnesota. Have a great night.

  33. By no1vikingsfan on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    @ DRS I been a Vikings fan since 1964, which I don’t know what that has to do with anything, I don’t care what else you wrote about, I just don’t like talk about taking our football team away from us, which you appear to view highly as a good solution, keep your stinking nose out of our business and let us handle our own state affairs.

  34. By DRS on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    By no1vikingsfan, you are a small minded person for it is as much my place to state my opinion as yours. You Minnesota communist would not know any better. It will be your law makers who will get the Vikings to move, not me.
    I was born in Appleton MN and lived in Bellingham MN for most of my life. Only in the later years did I move down here. BTW, most of your fellow tax payers do not want the stadium, put it to a vote, and you will see.

  35. By DRS on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    just go to and you will see the truth.

  36. By DRS on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    Please read.

  37. By Frederick Jones on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    Jane you ignorant xxxx

  38. By Frederick Jones on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    Actually I should apologize for my behavior. I tend to be critical at times. Hopefully not always.

    Everyone on here wants the Vikings to do well, except for the occasional nasty Packer fan.

  39. By DRS on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    Only day’s before your law makers go home and the Vikings look for a new state. Ask you law makers what they want, a new stadium or no Vikings? That is the question at hand. All is mute without a new stadium.

  40. By Shawn on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    @Fred I have always agreed the OL played poorly last season but I BELIEVE this new OL coach and another year of experiance for Loadholt … and HOPEFULLY McKinnie gets back in shape for whats likely to be 1-2 more years of solid performance at best

    I BELIEVE they will play well this year … fingers crossed

  41. By DRS on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    I want a new stadium in Minnesota, but if Minnesota law makers do not, why not here in NM, it is good as LA. LOL.

  42. By DRS on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    Good night one and all.

  43. By Frederick Jones on May 16, 2011 | Reply


    I think I agree for the most part. But if Frazier wants the Vikings to be a RUNNING team, then the offensive line should be one of the best units. Right now I don’t think they are above average.

    Could they become above average? Yes. But I would feel better if they got a Pro Bowl Free Agent.

  44. By JIM on May 16, 2011 | Reply

    I would have liked down by Eagan/Burnsville/Bloomington/Eden Prairie/Shokopee area better, closer to Mall of America, Mystic Lake Casino and alot of great restraunts and hotels. Also a great road system. I lived IN Minneapolis for 9 years and downtown sucks. I live in southern Minnesota now and will gladly make the drive to Arden Hills. A few more miles compared to downtown is a no brainer. I know people that DON’T go to the games because of the hassle of parking and TRYING TO GET THE H OUT OF DOWNTOWN after the game! You won’t have a problem selling out this stadium! SKOL VIKINGS!!

  45. By Frederick Jones on May 17, 2011 | Reply


    Thanx for that perspective. I hope Arden Hills continues to be an easy area for transportation. I suspect the arrival of the Vikings there, may change the place !

  46. By Rocksalt on May 17, 2011 | Reply

    You Cannot have a 1000 yd rusher wothout a good offensive3 line? Tell that to Barry Sanders, who made most of his yardage on his own. Our Oline stunk last year. Often Adrian would get hit in the backfield barely before he got the handoff.

  47. By Rocksalt on May 17, 2011 | Reply

    Every other NFL market has found a way to get their stadiums built/rennovated. To all the whiners about the economy and taxes …….WHAT DO YOU THINK? ARE YOU THE ONLY ONES IN THE COUNTRY WITH TAXES? POOR ECONOMIES?

  48. By no1vikingsfan on May 17, 2011 | Reply

    Actually you are very wrong DRS, when it comes to the idea of relocating the Vikings, I am 100% closed-minded. I have 0 tolerance to the thought, you can be my neighbor and I will peacefully dispute the move until I am blue in the face, because the Vikings and it’s history in Minnesota is very important to me, even though I spent over half my life living in SoCal and just because of that I don’t think that Los Angeles is a better place for the team.
    Many of my fellow taxpayers obviously don’t understand the value of the team and what they bring to the state of Minnesota, you want to talk about small minded, this would be the individuals that would put there hands in there pockets and not personally seeing what the team and the sport brings to the state.
    All I know is as an individual I have done my part to express my concerns regarding the issue, if I had my way we can kiss off the Wolves and the Wild if that would assure the Vikings would stay in Minnesota.

  49. By DRS on May 17, 2011 | Reply

    no1vikingsfan, once more you have not read or understood what I have told you. It is not I who wants the Vikings out of Minnesota; it is your lawmakers and the rest of your fellow taxpayers who want not to pay for the stadium. I think you are correct when you say that all most all other venues of sports should have been let go before the Vikings. After the Minnesota Lakers became the LA Fakers I lost all interest in Basketball, and when the North stars became the Dallas stars all hockey became nothing to me. Look to your State leaders for all the bull-s when it comes to sports. If the Vikings leave Minnesota, blame only your leaders!

  50. By no1vikingsfan on May 17, 2011 | Reply

    DRS! I didn’t state that you personally wanted the team out of Minnesota, I was generalizing the point to anyone who feels the state is better off without the team or not worth the little effort in keeping them here.
    I also was a North Star fan and lost interest in hockey when they were shipped off to Dallas, I pray and hope not to see that happen with the Vikings.

  51. By Rocksalt on May 17, 2011 | Reply

    the tightwad zealots who think they have have professional sports and not pay a dime are sure vocal on the trib site

  52. By Rocksalt on May 17, 2011 | Reply

    meant can have, not have have

  53. By DRS on May 17, 2011 | Reply

    no1vikingsfan, I think we are in agreement then. Hope all is well with you and your family.

  54. By Kelly on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    People will never vote for more taxes. Its just not going to happen. Taxes go to alot of things that I don’t care about but thats how society works. The state just needs to decide if this is a good deal for minnesota. I think they will see the value in tax revenues not only from the vikings but other year round events not to mention just state pride. I’m from wisconsin but only support minnesota sports. The only reason I travel there is to attend pro sports and have fun (spend money). If the Vikings are made to leave minnesota then well I’ll be crushed. Lets get this done!

  55. By robbnar on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    @ Jim,

    I agree 100% with you. People are talking about not being downtown like it is 400 miles away! Things will pop up in Arden Hills, but most people will see the game, get out of the parking lot in less than 2 hours, and take the 10 minute drive to downtown for dinner or whatever. If anything, Arden Hills may open up downtown so people can actually manuever and enjoy it! I have actually turned down tickets to a game because of the massive hassle of finding parking, and getting out of downtown. If they do build on the Metrodome site I will wait until they install Star Trek like transporters…

  56. By ThorFinsky on May 18, 2011 | Reply

    I personally am thrilled about the idea of having room for a total fan experience. Downtown was too crowded. One of the reasons the Vikings wanted a new stadium was to receive parking revenue. Keeping the stadium downtown does nothing to solve that problem. IMO, the best thing to happen to the Vikings was for Mr. Wilf to aquire ownership of the Vikings from Red (I’d bend over to pick up a penny) McCombs.

  57. By NYVIKING on May 19, 2011 | Reply

    They better hope thsi works. Hate to see them move to those super new digs they’re building in Los Angeles

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