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To Trade Or Not To Trade, That Is The Question

Posted by Mike Wobschall on April 27, 2011 – 6:20 am

NFL coaches and personnel executives typically keep their plans and strategies close to the vest in the months and weeks leading up to the draft. Aside from engaging in some gamesmanship and subterfuge, there’s really no upside for teams to disclose their thoughts on certain prospects.

But there’s one issue Vikings VP of Player Personnel Rick Spielman has been clear on in the build-up to this year’s draft: the Vikings want to find a way to recoup the (3rd-round) pick they handed over in last season’s Randy Moss trade.

Prior to and during the Combine, Spielman told reporters he’d like to find a way to score an additional selection during the draft, and he said the same thing on Tuesday while meeting with reporters during his annual pre-draft press conference at Winter Park.

“If we can get a pick we like and get a third round pick, we think we will have had a very successful draft,” Spielman explained.

But Spielman also said he’s taken his staff through other potential 1st-round scenarios, including the possibility of staying put at #12 and taking an impact player.

“There are players we’ve already talked about, that if he is available at the number twelve pick, we aren’t going to move, we are going take that player because we think that he’s significant enough to take him and not trade out,” Spielman continued. “We have been through scenarios where we’ve looked at our team if we move back, lost that player, but picked up a third-rounder. We have also looked at scenarios where we didn’t move back, didn’t have a third-rounder, picked that player and how that player would impact our football team.”

So while it’s crystal clear the Vikings will consider trading back in the draft this year to acquire an additional pick or two, it’s not clear when exactly the Vikings will make that move. It could be in the 1st round, or it could be at a later point.

In some respects, Spielman might not even have a good idea of when a trade back – or up – could happen. Much of how a team behaves during the draft is an after-effect of what happens in front of them.

“You have an idea, but I don’t know because sometimes there are some pretty good players up there, and (you don’t know) where they are going to come off,” Spielman said. “Now if one of those players that we have in the top five comes to us at twelve, I can tell you we aren’t going to trade out, we’re going to take that player.

“You’re going to have to sit back, be patient and wait. Then you’re going to have to weigh in when you’re on that clock and look at your options and how many bodies you have left so you could potentially move back, pick up a third round pick, and still get one of those three or four players that you would’ve taken at 12 anyway.”


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31 Responses to “To Trade Or Not To Trade, That Is The Question”

  1. By Dave the vikefan on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    Hey mike w., was hoping you could clarify this for me if there was any truth to this rumor I saw on Twitter this morning..

    In case you have been offline the past 24 hrs, here is news on a possible #Browns – #Vikings trade: bit.ly/eB8zCW #NFLDraft
    TweetDeck • 4/27/11 7:20 AM

    thanks!

  2. By Parody on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    Now that’s one interesting rumor. If it happens I’m hoping that the Browns tank this year and give us a good shot at a high selection in 2012 – maybe enough to move up for Luck?

    One can dream…

  3. By Parody on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    *That is, I’m hoping more than usual that the Browns tank. There’s just something about the pathetic team name that puts them in the list of my five least favorite teams.

  4. By Frederick Jones on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    Get Free Agents. Forget about trading up or down. You HAD BETTER select a good player at #12.

    Offensive Line, Defensive Back, Defensive Lineman at picks #1 and #2.

    Don’t pick another quarterback UNTIL YOU HAVE SOMEONE (anyone) TO BLOCK FOR HIM.

    Forget about your silly 3 step drop, or A.D. opening things up fo’ ya !
    The game is played in the trenches.

  5. By Frederick Jones on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    Right now it’s like the Vikings have a 350 pound quarterback with 150 pound blockers.

    Sorry, it don’t not never work that way.

    Put the CART BEFORE THE HORSE.

  6. By Frederick Jones on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    Actually I meant DON’T put the Cart before the HORSE.

    Get some horses first, then buy a cart.

    Think about it ! ! !

  7. By Frederick Jones on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    “Hey we GOT this great rookie QB.”

  8. By lui on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    pick Julio Jones in our first round pick Sidney rice aint coming back

  9. By Frederick Jones on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    If you finish 5-11, who cares.

    If you finish 5-11 with a few new players with potential, at least you have a future. Trying to play the magician and selecting yet another benchwarmer QB is not sound drafting.

  10. By Frederick Jones on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    Hold your HORSES, and draft some HORSES.

    DO NOT put the CART (QB) before the HORSE (linemen).

    It would also be real nice not to see all our cbs burned deep play after play, like they have been for the last 5 years.

  11. By Frederick Jones on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    Who was the last Vikings CB to make the Pro Bowl (other than Antoine Winfield)?

  12. By Parody on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    I know, I know! Antoine Winf….ohh…why’d you have to exclude him? He’s one of my favorite defenders…

  13. By jason on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    Locker in the 1st round trade up to get him if needed. the kid is the best in the draft, he would have been last year and still is this year. he has all the intangibles, and all his bad marks are the result of being the only talented player on a very untalented team with mediocre coaching. Washington won a championship with the whole team riding on his back! if we can wait til the 2nd to get him it would be great, but he wont last that long, so take him when you can.

  14. By purple blood in DC on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    Frederick Jones, CHILL OUT! you keep bashing the o-line & db’s take a look the two area’s where we had the most turnover due to injuries, I have total faith in the new coaching staff all meticulously picked as if the VIKES franchise life depended on it, sure we have to sure up or get ridddd! of some weak & lazy player’s that will not hone their skill’s they know who they are and so do the coaches, take note this is not chilly’s soft relaxed coaching this staff will command excellence and determination , so who ever the pick or trade just trust baby just trust cause it’s just US GO VIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

  15. By crowd on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    hrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa clap clap clap clap clap!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You go purple blood!

  16. By Herm on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    Iam in cleve.ihave following the Vikes since Jim Brown quit we have been at the last dance four times and never came home with the trofy.We have a good young qb in Webb we need SECODARY DEFENCE you don’t win games without it Herm

  17. By Rick on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    Round 1: Mike Pouncey
    Round 2: Aaron Williams

    get it done

  18. By Carl B on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    1st R either Aumukamara CB or Jordan DE or Castanzo LT or Pouncey C-OG. kick loose Mckinnie LT, Williams FS, Berrian WR, That will save us some money.

  19. By MIKE on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    Get off the O-line… it’s the same line that got cheated out of the Super Bowl appearance by a team that gunned to specifically put Brett Favre into the retirement line by illegal hit after illegal hit, a game in which players AND official were fined for the plays that lost our teams’ chance at that SB in which we would have OBLITTERATED the Colts. Webb is the future here, people say that he’s another T-jax? no way this guy is a special find, I’m thinking CB or Safety, then Dline maybe pick up a later round qb as a back up. What is the worst that could happen? give him a try and if it doesn’t work out and he blows the season then we get a high draft pick to try again next year

  20. By purple blood in DC on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    Mike, I LIKE THAT KIND OF THINKING it shows some balllllllssss and vision! AND faith which is really what being a fan a true fan is about cause nothing in any sports is sure it’s all about competition , preparation ,and desire in hope that we have the right pieces in place! YEAR OF THE PURPLE, BE THERE OR BE A STINKING slacker , bare or crion !

  21. By Aceviking on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    @Fredrick Jones… I see the way you are thinking, but, I have to disagree. Our offensive line was banged up last year. Leslie Frazier mentioned how much problems a good QB covers up. If they select right, the QB can create plays. If anything I think the Vikings should add and offensive lineman in the later rounds JUST TO ADD DEPTH. If one of the starters does get injured the person that we draft can step up and be a solid player. QB is the number 1 need.

  22. By knight123 on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    With the lockout as it is, no matter what quarterback we chose it looks like we will
    be getting him ready for 2012 because he most likely won’t get enough practice
    time with the team to contribute early on, so with that opinion I have to say that if
    one of Spielmans top five is available take him I’m fairly sure one of them is a
    quarterback but if he is gone trade back, the catch is don’t go too far back there are twenty good football players that will start and be a difference maker, and if you
    get a shot at one of the top five on your board on that later pick or one of the
    second tier quarterbacks such as Ponder,Dalton ,Capearnick who can be coached up to contribute a little down the road it wouldn’t hurt so bad because they certainly won’t be there when we pick again.

  23. By PurpleNation on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    ~BREAK NEWS ALERT~

    Breaking News
    Judge denies NFL’s motion for stay

    The federal judge who lifted the NFL lockout has denied the league’s request to put her ruling on hold. More …

    Source: nfl network/nfl.com

    ~BREAKING NEWS ALERT~

  24. By dave on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    just dont get locker for the first round pick its not worth it get prince, pouncey or trade back.

  25. By Ricky on Apr 27, 2011 | Reply

    The fun is about to start.

    Prince rocks

    Watt has a ton of energy

    Gabbert can sure bark out a cadence

    Julio can Jam his way loose for the ball

    Defensive lineman can’t stop Constanzo.

    These are the 5 that if are available. will determine our draft.

    The Vikings have No CAMera on Cam Newton
    The past draft history tells us that we are in for another very good draft.

    Leslie will Lead us to the promised Land

    I patent that phrase at the time of typing…..

    SKOL

  26. By 13timeworld champs on Apr 28, 2011 | Reply

    The real question is what will the World Champs do at 32.

  27. By Digger on Apr 28, 2011 | Reply

    I live in Iowa and have been a Viks fan since I was 5 years old and am now 42. I am also a former 5 year season ticket holder. Sorry people, yes Webb is good but he is not a francise QB. Remember, he was drafted to play WR. It was Chilly who wanted to try him at QB. My belief is to take the best player available. We need a QB bad for our team. I am tired of re tread old has been free agent bandaid QB’s. Thats all we have had around here for the most part since Tommy Krammer. I want Luck, but he stayed in school. Smart kid. Now is the time in either of the 1st 2 rounds to get a QB. But if not, yes let Webb run with it for now, but he is not our future for a francise QB.

  28. By Digger on Apr 28, 2011 | Reply

    We need a Matt Ryan, Mark Sanchez, Joe Flacco type QB around here and Webb is not it. Love the kid, great talent, NOT A FRANCISE QB! If I had my choice of all the QBs in this years draft, I would like to have Andy Dalton, he is a proven winner or I like the QB from Deleware, same school Flacco came from. I am a D1 FCS guy, as I am a fan of the University of Northern Iowa Panthers, the school where Curt Warner played. You can also find good QBs at less known schools as well as ones from the big time.

  29. By joshK on Apr 28, 2011 | Reply

    if we let Webb run the show and it doesnt work, next year we could get Luck but what veterans are guna be too old at that point? if we dont win this year we probably will be in full rebuild mode. we have alot of old vets. might be time to start the rebuilding this season let Webb win us a few games. lets fix our secondary this year. winfield will be gone in a couple years. next year QB than OL. hutch is getting old and the rest are bad.

    defensive minded coaches i would really like to see a fantasy defense

  30. By Digger on Apr 28, 2011 | Reply

    The sad part is yes, we need help almost everywhere. But I think some people are forgetting that the top rookie CB the Viks drafted last year was out most of the season with an injury and he should be back to full strength. We used a patch work secondary most of last year becuase of injuries, but yes we need help there and I do like the CB from Neb. I am a firm believer that yes, games are won and lost in the trenches, on both sides of the ball. If you can’t block, who cares how good your QB is becuase he will be on his back anyway and if you can’t get a consistant pass rush, even great secondaries with have issues. I get all of that, but you still need a capable guy to run the ship on offense, and just don’t think Webb is the perminant guy for the Viks.

  31. By joshK on Apr 28, 2011 | Reply

    despite our terrible pass defense it ranked 10th last year? interesting. and our passing offense was 29th points put up 29th. i wouldnt be too suprised if we tried to fix that.

    im dying to see who we pickup tonight. i want a saftey round 2. not sure about round 1. pouncey? trade back and get mallet? would we take Julio if hes there? guna be fun to watch. i think the addition of 1 solid OL would be a huge boost for the entire offense.

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