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A Closer Look At QB Ricky Stanzi

Posted by Mike Wobschall on April 16, 2011 – 8:55 am

It’s always fun to write about the NFL draft, but I must admit that this year it’s been both extra fun and extra easy to do so because of the high-profile class of QBs combined with the Vikings need at the QB position. Over the last several weeks, we’ve talked a lot about not just top prospects Blaine Gabbert and Cam Newton, but also about the “next tier” of passers, such Jake Locker and Ryan Mallet.

But the depth of this year’s QB class doesn’t end with those 4 names. Not even close. Last week I wrote about the rise Colin Kaepernick is experiencing on many draftniks’ draft boards. And in the vikings.com QB Collection you’ll find write-ups about Andy Dalton, Pat Devlin, Christian Ponder and even former Golden Gopher Adam Weber.

Also included in the QB Collection is former Iowa QB Ricky Stanzi, a guy we’re going to take a closer look at right now.

Greg Gabriel of the National Football Post has an excellent scouting report of Stanzi, which is what prompted the idea for this blog entry. Overall Gabriel views Stanzi as a QB who will take some time to develop but who will ultimately turn out to be a starting QB in the NFL who can play on a team that is a consistent winner. That sounds like the type of player that would fit in well with the Vikings, don’t you think?

Going deeper, though, here are a few things in Gabriel’s scouting report of Stanzi that stood out to me:
– “In the Iowa offense, Stanzi played from under center about 80 percent of the time, had to take 3, 5 and 7 step drops and read the whole field.”
– “He can set up very quickly from under center and he sets his feet and stays in balance. He has a smooth overhand delivery with a quick release. When he finds his target the ball is out of his hand quickly.”
– “When you watch the end zone tape you can see him go through his progression sometimes going from 1 to 2 to 3 and then making the throw to the open man. You seldom see him stare down receivers and force a throw.”
– “He has excellent intangibles and a strong passion for the game.”

Because Stanzi played in the Big 10, Minnesotans had plenty of opportunity to watch him play. What I saw was a gritty player who won a lot of games and played through some injuries. In 2010 he completed 64% of his passes and his TD-INT ratio was excellent – 25-6. Personally, I tend to naturally favor QBs who played 4 years in college and won a lot of games. There are exceptions…for example I like Locker, too, even though he didn’t win a lot of games in college. With Stanzi, though, you have a guy who won 27 of the 35 games he started over his career.

Just as I stated in my defense of Locker over questions regarding his accuracy, this blog entry is not a full-fledged endorsement of Stanzi as the guy the Vikings should select in the 2011 NFL Draft. But I will say that if Stanzi is the QB the Vikings end up with when all is said and done, the team will have succeeded in acquiring a player who represents a chance for long-term stability at the most important position in the NFL.


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119 Responses to “A Closer Look At QB Ricky Stanzi”

  1. By Chaz on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    I am a fan of Stanzi, reminds me of Tom Brady, a big QB with good accuracy from the big ten. He wont fall as far as Brady did in the draft though, to many QB needy teams.

  2. By Jeremy on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    Stanzi sounds like a good prospective prospect~

  3. By Jeremy on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    Potenial prospect, I mean, sorry~

  4. By Frederick Jones on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    If you read the article and blog suggested by Mike Wobschall, you’ll notice that some IOWA fans are not very high on him. That could be a red flag.

    OT’s Smith and Costanzi may be available for the 12th pick.

    You want excitement from AD, this is the route the Vikings MUST go!!!

  5. By Al on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    As a big hawkeye fan who has seen all of stanzis games, I hope the vikes look elsewhere. Iowa won ALOT of games in spite of stanzi. Just don’t see him as starter in the NFL.

  6. By Angie on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    Stanzi reminds me of Joe Montana. He does not have a strong arm, but he places the ball perfectly in the receivers arm where only the receiver can get it.

  7. By Angie on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    here is the Youtube site of Stanzi

  8. By Aceviking on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    Nice spiral, good arm, good leader. I like this guy.

  9. By Daniel on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    I agree fredrick Jones. Castonzo all the way!

  10. By animal26 on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    I’m not too confident in Stanzi. even with that highlight real angie put up, a lot of the throws that were completed, would have been picked off in the NFL

  11. By animal26 on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    here is the guy I believe the Vikings should draft in this years draft. He will be awesome in a few years. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_cRSYokIQc

  12. By Angie on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    Tyrod Taylor reminds me of Tavaris Jackson

  13. By Angie on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    This guy is pretty good also

  14. By Shawn on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    well the stanzi highlight reel is 5 minutes and the mcelroy is 3 minutes … case closed =)

  15. By Shawn on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    I would like to see the vikes get mallet and stanzi … McNabb , Mallet , Webb , Stanzi

    Worst case Webb plays WR … McNabb mentors for 2 years

    Then we have double the chance at a franchise QB and possible our franchise QB for 12+ years and trade bait

    Or maybe only 1 of them turns out good we can cut the other … but we wont have this debate for 12+ years

  16. By xxxxx on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    Whatever we do please don’t draft a black qb or get one through free agency. Sorry for being racist but the coaches like black qb’s on this team chilly was one of them.

  17. By animal26 on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    Jackson and Taylor are nothing alike. First off, Taylor though his years at Virginia Tech. He has matured into more of a pocket passer and has improved each year of his collage career. 2. he is a way harder worker then Jackson ever was, 3. Taylor looks over the whole field and doesn’t just look at 1 receiver, then run like jackson always did. 4. Tyrod Taylor is actually a strong and confident leader. If the Vikings are able to snag this guy. They will be stealing a guy, who has a ton of potential, which only time will tell, if he can play to his potential.

  18. By animal26 on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    I think hes worth taking a chance on, we can then use our first 3-4 draft picks to address the offensive line, defensive line, secondary, and wide receiver depth.

  19. By Titus on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    No room for racist comments on here– xxxxx– good name, it means you should be x’ed out — do not post that garbage on here.

  20. By Frederick Jones on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    @ Titus,

    Racism is the only reason for so many negative blogs about Cam Newton.

    Newton may be picked #1 in the entire draft.

  21. By Titus on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    Fred, I hope not– that the negativity is about race. Sometimes, it is difficult to ascertain the real reason behind a comment– and sometimes racism is NOT the reality behind the post– But I do know when it is obvious– and that comment a few posts above us was obvious– the poster even admitted it. Maybe there is hope for that blogger–admission is the first step to recovery– he or she can get treatment.

  22. By paul on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    Fred Jones
    Cam Newton made the bed that he sleeps in.
    When one steals lap tops, cheats on tests and has a father soliciting his sons services, expect some negative blogs..

  23. By Frederick Jones on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    wow, 2 blogs in 12 hours !

    I bet there will be quite a few after the draft !

  24. By lui on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    go get Ricky Stanzi thats a good QB we only have 11 more days we need a super bowl its time

  25. By Titus on Apr 16, 2011 | Reply

    Fred, this place will light up once the draft starts.

  26. By Kyler on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    @ frederick. I dont comment much. i just like to read and observe the collective thinking of my fellow fanbase. Now here i find myself for the second time responded to a remark of you claiming racism. the last being to defend the receiving core because of myself also having migranes. Now here the stuff directed at cam is not race based. take this for example. two qbs. both played in the SEC. both winners. one played one year and had success. he also was found to have stolen a laptop…cheated through school and was involved in a pay for play scandal. the other 6 ft 7. 68- to 20 something career td to int ratio and has the “best arm” in the draft. yet right before the combine a rumor came out of nowhere saying he does drugs. yet he is reach at 12 because of character issues yet the first is a supposed # 1 overall?

  27. By Kyler on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    @ frederick . Now to finish my point People don’t call these bluffs on cam simply because he is a black man. He has sooo many negatives against with few positives …. I feel the same way, why take a guy who was a back up at florida went to a Junior college next year then a year after had One season of success in a spread offense with a great defense on his team. Now he did do all of this i.e win a nat champ, heisman..in sec against stiff competition. But yet he did it by playing qb unconventionally . He took one look if his #1 wasnt open he took off. and he was great at it. but i can only think of one qb who made that transition to the pro game and played at very high level. still it took him what 5 years playing then 2 years in federal prison before he became a real qb. Now on the other hand i can think of a handful of qb’s who came out with similar style and amounted to nothing….pat white david garrrard (had one good year) marcus vick. there are more but slipping my mind. I would put my money on a guy who has played in a pro style offense for more than a year and doesnt have 3 different accusations against him. my 2 cents have been said.

  28. By dave on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    I think he’d be a great pickup in round 4 or 5 prob he might go in the third but i still wouldnt mind getting him. The only other quarterbacks id be interested in is Blaine Gabbert,mallet or kaepernick

  29. By Sizzle on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    Kyler. Your typing skills are poor.

  30. By Kyler on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    That is fine with me. I’ve made mention of my condition earlier its hard for me to type,read and think all at the same time.

  31. By Michael Vick on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    I should be playing for the Vikings!

  32. By Matt Flynn on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    Hopefully the Vikings can trade for me when free agency starts!

  33. By Mike B on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    I like how Ricky Stanzi stands in the pocket and how he can roll out and find a receiver and throw with some accuracy. These are tools he already has and one that makes NFL QBs last long. He is not a #12 pick from what I have read. He will not fall to our next pick in the second round. I am sure he will be still there at #12 but will The Vikings pull the trigger on this kid. I don’t know there are about 3 of these guys that will fall between 12 and our second pick. do we go after them or not. Tough decision. My gut tells me that we will get a QB at #12. Quick comment about Cam Newton. He’s has a superstar mentality already out of college. He could be worse than Moss or Owens. I would stay away from him.

  34. By Nick on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    If we’re gonna wait until the fourth to take a QB (which I hope we don’t) – better go with Pat Devlin than this guy. Please let’s not go for the ‘safe’ option of an OT in the first, this will not improve our standing nearly as much as a dynamic pass rusher or Mallet would.

  35. By Daniel on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    Lets get mcnabb in here. look at his 08, and 09 numbers. looks solid to me. And would make a great Mentor for Webb. To see Webb throw the way he did, and take off and create space. We have to get Webb that chance. Look, we don`t know how good Webb could be. Put Webb at Auburn last year and I bet Webb would have as much success. Webb is better than and QB in this years draft. Right or wrong? I like his personality, his phisical skills, his 4.4 40 speed! and the guys arm IS BETTER than MALLETS or Newtons. Just think what Bill could mold those tools into? I have confidence In Webb and I have not that for a Vikings QB. I did with Farve in our awsome run in 09. our areas of need must be O-line,D-line. I say Castonzo, or prince in 1. Or trade down and get Pouncy.

  36. By Shawn on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    Wow I just watched that Matt Flynn vid …. WHAT IS THE HYPE? HE IS A BACK UP!!!!

    I saw maybe 3 good throws and everything else was a dump off pass to a RB or 3 yard pass to a TE …. PLEASE DO NOT GET MATT FLYNN !!!!!!!!!!!!

    People talented recievers around a back up qb can make a qb look better. Matt Flynn is and always will be a back up.

    Matt Flynn is TJack without the speed !!!!

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOO MATT FLYNN !!!!!!!!!!!!

  37. By Shawn on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    Joe Webb is 10000000000000000000000000000000 times better than Matt Flynn RIGHT NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Matt Flynn mad some horrible throws and a ton of dump offs with his INTs !!!!

    HES A BACK UP PERIOD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  38. By dave on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    I think we should get Ricki Stanzi. and build up the o line, d line, and DBs and we’ll be set

  39. By dave on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    and get a vet. to train him.

  40. By Kyya on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    Trade back from the 12 pick to early 20′s in first round to pick up the 3rd round pick.

    Get Pouncy in first round
    Get a defensive tackle in 2nd round
    Take Stanzi in 3rd round

  41. By Daniel on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    I think our #1 priority for a free agent pickup should be Harvey Dahl RG out of ATL. 3rd best guard in the NFL, musgrove knows him well, only 5 years experiance. He had a ton of tread left. They need to use the 12th pick on Castonzo LT out of Boston. Pro Bowl LT for years. Safe and ready to go. trade Mckinnie for a pick. We do not need another Peppers,Mckinnie matchup again. Love the big guy as did ST Louis with Pace, but it`s time to move on and get faster and younger. Dahl could replace hutch in the future too. Go after Berkley or Luck next year. In the meantime, this year needs a mentor for webb and our next years QB. the crop next year is better fellas! without a line, even if we got Gabbert, or who ever we get will be more banged up than staffort in det. FIX THE LINE VIKES! Vikings for LIFE!

  42. By IvaninIowa on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    For me I think Stanzi would be a good pick if we were looking for an Aaron Rogers type situation. Namely a guy who can sit for a few years and pick up the game. We really aren’t in that position even if we get McNabb or someone else in free agency. I have to admit the QB siutation is a sticky one and my hope is we don;t reach for a guy who we are not 100% sold on and all of these QB’s this year look like projects to me except Mallet and he seems like a handful in his own right. Although I ahte to say it maybe this year we address everything but the QB and snag one next year when we have a better class.

  43. By Mike B on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    I think getting McNabb is no better than bring Farve out of retirement and probably cost the same. If they want to go old time Vet and wait a year, I think bringing Brett out of retirement for another season makes more sense than McNabb. I think Brett has more tools than McNabb does and more sense with the ball.

  44. By Frederick Jones on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    @Kyler,

    I am glad you responded. When I said there was racism towards Cam Newton, I was not talking about everyone. But with so many negative comments I was actually led to believe he might be a late round draft choice. At least one draft predictor puts him at #1.

    This was a surprise for me because I avoid watching college football. So I have to conclude that there is a lot of racism towards him.

  45. By Frederick Jones on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    I have also said, many times, that we should pick up a veteran QB for this year.
    Why draft another young quarterback? Chances are he won’t play unless somebody gets hurt.

    We need a veteran to back up Joe Webb.

    Meanwhile other areas could be negleted if we go after a QB early in the draft.

    We can get the best offensive lineman in the country at #12. I wouldn’t be upset if we got a defensive back in the first two rounds. Right now the only guy who has proven he can cover an NFL wide receiver is Winfield, and he seems to have lost a couple steps!

  46. By Frederick Jones on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    Don McNabb is still a good QB, he averaged 7.2 yards per pass play this year. He also averaged 5.2 yards per carry for over 150 yards. He will be 35 this year, which is not that old for a quarter back.

    McNabb will be expensive, so I don’t see the Vikings getting him.

    There will be some practical veterans available via free agency. We should spend our time on watching the waiver list, rather than testing college QBs.
    Orton, Kolb, Palmer, etc.

  47. By Titus on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    Webb has shown a lot for a rookie– there is no guarantee that any of the QBs in the draft will perform any better– plus Webb has already played several games, including most of a Monday night game vs Chicago, a Sunday (moved to Tues) night game where we beat the Eagles– both high profile nationally televised games– the kid has some real experience. Best to draft the top quality, no matter what the position– QB may not be our biggest need– with Webb and hopefully a trade for a veteran, we can hold off a year on drafting a QB–

  48. By Titus on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    The talk about Favre is pure nonsense– folks, he is done this time.

  49. By Daniel on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    I really think Mcnabb will not be that expensive. No where near Farve cash. Mcnabb just knows how to win. I have watched that old vet play and just shake my head in thinking “that guy has game.” I think he would be a stong leader for the team and a perfect mentor for Joe. We may very well have our guy in Webb. He was very fun to watch and had so much respect for his abilities. what I liked about joe is he is a class act. you can tell he is for real. something I believe that a team will rally around. If the vikes go the mcnabb webb route, I will be behind them 100%. I bet this draft is going to blow alot of peoples minds.I hope they get Castonzo in rd 1 or A top CB. if not, trade down and get more picks. Lieber is gone(thank goodness) and I hope Musgrave brings in Dahl from ATL. One of the best Guards in the NFL. Get Herera out of here. Sullivan is not that bad, he has good size and with better help next to him will lock that side up. Please, no more herera!

  50. By Mike B on Apr 17, 2011 | Reply

    I agree that Farve is done but comparing the two QBs. I think that Farve ahs more tools than McNabb does. I think Farve makes better decisions too, but that’s my opinion. I don’t think that the Vikings are interested in gettng a vet nearing the end of his career. They have been there done that. Also is why I think they will go after a QB in this draft.

  51. By jim r on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    The vikings carried tarvis Jackson as a backup for several years. Selecting stanzi in the second is a good fit. I would prefer the third, but I don’t think he’ll last. Even if stanzi doesn’t start right away, he’s a good backup while he develops.. OT/OG in the first round, Stanzi in the second.

  52. By Shawn on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    I have to disagree with Favre making better decisions than McNabb …

    Favre is the all time INT thrower … so its not even a question, however I will say Favre is more accurate than McNabb

    Favres Main problem was he thought he could make any throw and so he would try even if it was a bad decision …. and sometimes he looked great and sometimes he looked bad

    McNabb if available wont demand Favre money and he will be the best mentor for any young QB

    I stil would rather have Palmer if he becomes available but McNabb is my second choice

  53. By Daniel on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    There is no better place for Mcnabb than here to end his career. I think he will be well respected here and will give 110%. He is not a long term answer, but a mentor for Webb. I bet he will sell alot of merchandise and bring in good income for our organization. He could be big for Webb. Webb has big time skills, he is apples and oranges to T-jack. Webb should be the Guy. He has as good if not better arm than Mallett. And that guy has a great character. I did not want T-jack to have the chance at all because he has no idea what he is doing, Webb on the other hand, just comes in and walks all over the eagles and 49ers. Lets get behind him if the vikes do go this route in the draft and rebuild our holes. I think that would be extremley smart if they decide to mold Webb.

  54. By Matt on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    First, on Farve…..You should all be THANKFUL that guy is gone. He was the MOST overratted QB in history. Anyone remember the New Orleans championship game? I knew he was going to do that the DAY we signed him. How about his last throw as a Packer? Anyone remember that? It was an INT right to the Giants DB that, yes, cost the Pack a trip to the Super Bowl. He was done BEFORE last season but cared about money and NOT the Vikes so please, call it like it is. Second, the black QB thing….that ISNT racism. It is fact. Blacks do NOT play QB well, Period. They’re better at DB, WR and also at RB than whites. With that being said, am I now a racist against whites. I look at stats and ONLY stats. Someone please list some Super Bowl WINNING Black QB’s beside the QB from the Redskins. Racism? No. Ive been a Viking fan for 44 years. EVERYTIME we get a Black QB it turns out to be a failure. Was Dante Culpepper a sucess? Tavaris Jackson (who we traded up to get) (if you can believe that) ? Now we want to give the run of the team to who? Joe Webb or Donavan McNabb? You people are nuts!!!! Again, white, black or green doesnt make a difference to me. A trophy does. Anyone relize we had Warren Moon as a started for 9 seasons? Dont remember? I rest my case…………..

  55. By Mike B on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    I would remind you all that Webb was picked for his ability as a Wildcat type player. He shown ability as QB last year, so he made Sage expendable. He didn’t prove himself to be the guy or there wouldn’t be all this QB talk and looking this year. I would stay a lot more open minded about where Joe Webb is as a player than crowning him as our QB. I think there is too many that are scared of another Ryan Leaf pick that you want to avoid a QB in first round. I am sure the Vikings do too. The only guy that would cause me any concern of the possible first rounders is Cam Newton. He needs to bring his hype down a couple notches or he is going to have trouble in the NFL. That said I am sure he will get picked right away in the draft. Fortunate for us we are at 12 and not at 1-4. Have a great day.

  56. By Matt on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    How about an Offensive Lineman first to blow open holes for AD then a trade, say, Joe Webb and a 3rd round pick for Carson Palmer? Doesnt that make more sense than “molding” Webb? The ONLY way we’re going to the BIG game is on the Back of Adrain. Mold Webb? Id like to get there BEFORE Peterson is in his 40′s…………

  57. By Joe Webb on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Anyone think of asking me what I think?

  58. By Matt on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Now THATS funny

  59. By Daniel on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    A Black QB? what does color have to do with anything? Have the Vikings won a superbowl???? no. This crazyness is what is wrong with our country today. Just like when Adrian made the slave mentality comment. Look I know what Adrian ment when he made the statement. The NFL is a Business. So was slavery. As soon as a comment comes out, then out comes the black comments. The origional Vikings were slave traders on war ships, the Black people in Affrica sold Affricans to white people as did china. Its not about Black and white, it’s about Money and Gain!
    If the Vikings take the Webb route I believe Musgrave could do well with him. Next year is a better QB class! LUCK OR BARKLEY! one way or another we will get that QB. But not untill we get this O-line issue resolved.

  60. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Well, there you have it.

    Racism admitted on Vikings.com by two people in the last month.

    Can you imagine how much more of this racism is around?

  61. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    @Matt,

    I admire your guts for coming right out and saying what you said.

    Warren Moon played with the Vikings for THREE (3) seasons. You could look it up. He also had a winning record with the Vikings, and he was on the tail end of his career.

    Their are several good reasons why a “black quarterback” has never won the Super Bowl. The main reason is lack of opportunity, which you could apply quite a number of scenarios including extreme racism.

  62. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Read about Marlin Briscoe.

    He was a short quarterback with an excellent paaasser rating for the era he played in. Coaches used his height to explain his change to wide receiver, but he should have been a hall of fame quarterback.

  63. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Did you notice I added some letters to a word in my previous blog?

  64. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Short and Sweet:

    If you want to move Joe Webb to TE, WR, RB, LB, DE, etc., you can sure do it !

  65. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Add some weight to Webb, heck he could play offensive line.

  66. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    But Joe Webb has always been (except for a short stints in college, and the NFL) a QUARTERBACK.

  67. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    But Joe Webb has always been (except for a short stints in college, and the NFL) a QUARTERBACK.

    The only way he doesn’t succeed is if he doesn’t get the support he needs ! ! !

  68. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    and that is what happened to Tarvaris Jackson, and 100s of other “black quarterbacks” like him.

  69. By Daniel on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Good stuff Fred!

  70. By Nick on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    I personally believe that a trade for Kevin Kolb should happen, just pick up a QB such as Stanzi to develop under Kolb in years to come.

  71. By animal26 on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    The Vikings need to go with CB Prince amukamara

  72. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    @Daniel,

    Thank you !

    @animal26,

    I wouldn’t be unhappy if the Vikings moved up to pick the Prince.
    Chris Cook might come back, and have a good year, but we need help
    every where in the defensive secondary !

  73. By James on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Who won the SB in 1987 for the redskins?

  74. By James on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Bringing in a FA QB,put Webb in the mix and draft a QB like Ponder or Stanzi. Getting a Def. starter with the #12 pick might let the Vikings Off. get back after a three and out. Last year def. was out there to much.

  75. By Ekolu on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Stanzi has a nice ball, but I didn’t see the power. You want to see the player that can make the out throw precise and powerful. I believe Stanzi should be a later round acquisition, but if there is a QB rush in the 1st and/or 2nd he could go in the middle rounds.

  76. By Mike B on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    I am not sure what league are all talking about but there has been a Black QB winner of a Super Bowl and he was the MVP of the Game . Doug Williams played for the Washington Redskins and beat Denver in the Superbowl. The NFL bends over backwards to provide opportunity for all races in the League. Talent, ability, and smart decision making gets you a start in the NFL. You neeed to have a lot of all of those to make it. I doubt Webb due the fact that Coach Fraizer says he is not sure he’s the guy. TJack never played to the ability Childress said he had. He had opportunities and they were not winning games. We had good quality back ups to fill in for TJack. Did TJack have moments of good play yes, but not enough of them. To say TJack didn’t have opportunity is way off the mark. Webb has been given opportunities to show what he has to and has show some good things. The fact that the coaching staff still has questions is more telling than any game footage. The QB position is the most important position on the team and we need the Guy. I just question that Webb is not the Guy. From what I have read my doubts are very valid. Let’s not turn this issue into a race bickering thing please. A decision on the teams QB is an important one and should show all sides. I appreciate Fred’s positions on TJack and Webb, but I don’t always agree and that’s fine. He gets to say what wants and I get to say my side. Let’s not turn this important issue into something to be angry about. Thanks

  77. By Ekolu on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    When looking at the QB position, lets look at what type of QB’s ended up in the Super Bowl. I believe the one constant is that whether they were black, white or brown the overwhelming majority of them were pocket passing throw first run second QB’s. Even if they started out their careers as run1st, throw 2nd QB’s by the time they made it to the SB they were throw first QB’s i.e. Steve Young, Donovan McNabb(arguably), While those who made the transition in their careers fell short i.e. Randall Cunningham, Michael Vick. While you could argue that Fran Tarkenton and John Elway ran well with the ball, Fran was a scrambler and ran east west rather north south so that he could throw for more than 40,000 yards and Elway who ran a 4.5/40 threw for 51,000 yards. So, history shows that its the QB who can make the throws whether they are scrambling or stationary are the ones who make it to the big show.

  78. By Carl K on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    @ Mike B – Frazier might be saying he wants a QB in the 1st or 2nd round as a possible smoke screen. He may like Joe Webb more than he is leading on at this point just to throw teams off what he might really want to do to do in this draft.

    Teams and coaches don’t come right out and say we want to take this postion(QB) in round 1 or 2.

    Just because teams are working out certain players, doesn’t mean they have a real interest in that player. You have to take what teams are saying and doing before the draft with a grain of salt.

    And for the record, I disagree with your opinion of Joe Webb.

  79. By Carmen on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Bravo xxxxx!! FInally someone have the brave to say the truth. The black QBs DOESN’T WORK at VIkings. Period.

    Is not racism, maybe just bad luck o coincidence o wherever. During more than10 years the team had black QB, it’s time to prove a white QB.

    And please, please don’t bring Donovan McNabb!!

  80. By Parody on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    As long as we’re playing the race card, why is nobody whining about the fact that we have a black coach? Just look at the numbers, haven’t there been a LOT more white coaches winning the Super Bowl than Black ones? Must be the skin…that’s the only explanation.

    And how about the QB of our country, US Presidents? We haven’t had a single black president that was successful! Look at all the successful white ones! Yea there was Bush and Bush and Nixon and Hoover and some others in there that didn’t pan out, but Kennedy and Roosevelt and Washington and Lincoln were ALL white! Coincidence?

    Then again, maybe things just change…maybe we can sit back and enjoy watching that change happen instead of creating phantom reasons for why history hasn’t given us success in specific aspects of certain cultures yet.

  81. By animal26 on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Frederick Jones, you haven’t heard? His stock is for some strange reason has dropped a little bit. Hes now projected as a top 15 pick and He fits the mold of Best player available if hes there at 12. Also, we saw it this year. our corners were getting burned badly and it never hurts to have good depth at Defensive back.

  82. By Parody on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    I just checked into that news on Amukamara and came up with some good reason for it in this article: http://www.detnews.com/article/20110415/SPORTS0101/104150427/1361/Prince-Amukamara-doesn-t-fare-well-in-ESPN-stats-analysis

    They point out a number of his college statistics as causing concern where other, lower-rated CBs have performed better.

    I’ve been thinking that it would be a steal if Prince falls to us, but after reading that article I’m not nearly as certain.

  83. By SIneH on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Troyd Taylor will suck. Hes black. All the good quarterbacks are white. ( Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Schaub, Drew Brees, John Elway, Troy Aikmen, Brett Favre. Etc. Theyre all white! Not black! Black people are meant to run and jump, not pass!

  84. By animal26 on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Parody: thanks, now I see why his stock has dropped a little. Still hope we d (raft him though, because he still is a huge impact player with a lot of upside.

    SlneH: Why are you so ignorant? Tyrod Taylor will suck because he’s black? First off, he is incredibly underrated. though his entire collage career, he has matured into more of a pocket passer and has improved each year. He has all the tools needed, to be an amazing QB in the NFL in a few years. He has a good arm, hes accuracy keeps getting better every year, he has confidence and swager, and is a leader. He could be another true duel threat QB like Steve Young and Vick. He is so fast and can burn you by running the ball, but he has the mentality of pass first and looks for every possibility, before deciding to tuck the ball and running it. The Vikings would be wise to draft him in the 5-6 round, if hes still their, because this kid has tons of talent and potential to be a very special QB in this league someday.

  85. By animal26 on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Draft*

  86. By James on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    A rookie salary cap before the draft might not happen but it would be nice…..Then everyones boards change. Alot of later round players should be getting more, maybe Stafford could give some back! …Let Webb compete with a FA and use the draft to get a starter or two on both lines.

  87. By dave on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    y r u people so recist theres still good black quarterbacks. Vikings just need a decent quarterback and to get there team back and theres a lot of good black quarterbacks, micheal vick, Donovan Mcnabb, culpepper was ok for a couple of years, vince young, Joe webb, Cam Newton. There is bad black and bad white quarterbacks. race doesn’t matter.

  88. By dave on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Joe Webb actually kinda reminds me of a micheal vick on the field. If he just watches some film of micheal vick he could learn a lot without even having to talk with vick.

  89. By James on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    You are right on Dave. This is a Game that is very popular and every players is needed to make that happen…..So taking BPA and bringing in FA QB will work not a color will change that.Webb needs more snaps with first team players. But that might be late in year.

  90. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    @Carl K.,

    I totally agree with you that NFL Coaches hide the truth when it comes to draft time, especially concerning free agents.

    It’s a little like buying a car. Oh, I love this orange car ! ! ! That’s not a good strategy is it? In addition you do not want to get people’s expectations too high.

    Remember when Mike Tice talked about the Randy Ratio? That was bad strategy, and if I remember correctly, that was Randy Moss’s last season with the Vikings (Round 1 that, is)

  91. By Frederick Jones on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Regarding Race:

    There is only one race.

    “Asians” or “Indians” or “Blacks” or “Whites” are more alike genetically, in some cases, than those of their own color.

    There are television shows, DVDs, Books, etc. about this, and have been for several years. I “discovered” this for myself at least 5 years ago. Race is a myth.

  92. By Titus on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    RACE– no such thing.

  93. By Titus on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    To say Blacks do not make good QBs as MATT SAID– yes, MATT is like saying a blond cannot make a good pitcher in baseball or a blue-eyed person cannot paint.
    I think I will close with one final thought– seems NO ONE on here mentioned.
    One name…

  94. By Titus on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    We did not have him for long…

  95. By Titus on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    But maybe, he was one of the best QBs MN ever had– at least for one season…

  96. By Titus on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Maybe the BEST we ever had– if you count one season where his rating was past the sky– and, no, not Moon…

  97. By Titus on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    In fact, he would have taken us to the Superbowl, had it not been for some poor coaching…

  98. By Titus on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    He was so accurate, his rating was so high, he was so phenomenal…

  99. By Titus on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    And he took over for a white quarterback (not that I care what color the skin is– like what color is his hair or eyes– who cares… well, some do, I don’t)

  100. By Titus on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Blacks cannot play at quarterback?

  101. By Titus on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Randall Cunningham.

  102. By Titus on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    To determine and blanket a whole group as to what their abilities are– is RACIST GARBAGE– STAY OFF THE BLOG with that CR-AP! What nonsense. What parents feed their kids such CR-AP? It is a learned behavior based on ignorance.

  103. By viking joe on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    kolb n stanzi!!

  104. By Parody on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Read comments in the “Making A Tough Task Even Tougher” article. Kolb is a waste of the coaches’ valuable time just to consider trading for! Get over it!!

  105. By Sue G Vikes 4 Ever on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Shawn and Daniel, I agree with you about McNabb. We need a vet to teach the rookies. I still believe in Brett (not as a player, but as a coach)….but that is not going to happen. We needto draft O-line and D-line players………. and most imprtantly secondary. We will hopefully have Cedric back..but other than him…we have little else.

  106. By Sue G Vikes 4 Ever on Apr 18, 2011 | Reply

    Matt, I am not saying that Brett is the best”person”, but he is definitely the “guttsist” (I know that is not actually a word) that ever played the game.

  107. By drew on Apr 19, 2011 | Reply

    We could get Ricky Stanzi in the second round, why waste a first round on him? We should trade down, get a later first round and a second round.

  108. By Daniel on Apr 19, 2011 | Reply

    Looks like Mcnabb is coming. Who do you see him being a mentor for? hmmm, Ponder? no…Locker? no……..I know! Mallett!!!!!…..no….???
    Who Matches his skills? Oh! I know JOE FREAKING WEBB!!!!!!!
    Joe is the Guy fellas…and Sue.
    Joe is night and day to T-jack. Joe has shown his potential in big games already! The guy will work!!!! he has as good of a personality as AD and is a Leader. Just think what Musgrave could do with Joe.
    Perfect time to rebuild the line, Bring in Mcnabb, and Dahl (RG out of ATL), Get a speed rusher to replace edwards, Move Winfield to FS, Let Singleterry bring in someone for let down Lieber, Draft a Kicker (Henery out of Neb), This draft is going to blow everyones mind!!!!!!
    I am Pumped about this year. GO VIKES!!!!!!!

  109. By AdrianP on Apr 19, 2011 | Reply

    Anyone is better than TJack. Stanzi’s got a nice reel.

    I say we draft a good corner in the first round!

  110. By Ryan on Apr 19, 2011 | Reply

    I’m an Iowa fan responding to the idea that some Iowa fans aren’t big on him, or that he wasn’t a vital part of our teams success the past few year. Iowa has and will be a running team and with the talent at RB that we’ve had Ricky’s numbers are notably lower than some other QB’s in the draft. Ricky however led us to more victories than we could have had with Vandenberg or someone else in. Stanzi is an amazing quarterback, period. He is a winner and loves the game. You see the effort he puts in every week and I’m still impressed.

  111. By DRS on Apr 19, 2011 | Reply

    Frederick Jones, first thing first, I do not care what color a man is. To me it is all about if the man can do his job! Now many think there is racism in the NFL, well they must not be looking at the average NFL Team side line. Tell me what color dominates a team’s roster?

    I would put it to you all that there is a reverse racism in the United State’s sports system! A poor white man’s child has almost 0% chance when grown up to make it to any big league team! One must be a big wigs child in the local community to have any true chance as a white man to make it to the big leagues! This has been my Esperance! There is always the exception to this rule, but my point stands.

    I am tired of hearing how the blacks are kept from what they want when it is not true! Only blacks keep blacks from what they want. They get all the breaks by the government and they keep asking for more! Give me a break! Why not ask of all Americans to do their best to get the job done and stop worrying about what color a person is! If a man/she can do the job and is qualified he/she gets the job! That’s how I see it.

  112. By DRS on Apr 19, 2011 | Reply

    Have to go, God bless you all.

  113. By DRS on Apr 19, 2011 | Reply

    http://www.chacha.com/question/what-is-the-black-to-white-ratio-in-the-nfl

    The black to white ratio in the NFL is currently 70 % black to 30% white. ChaCha again!

    my point!

    Bye for now.

  114. By Mas on Apr 19, 2011 | Reply

    What do you guys think of Tyrod Taylor? He plays alot like Michael Vick and would be a good addition to the team as a late rounder.

  115. By Ekolu on Apr 19, 2011 | Reply

    In response to Tyrod Taylor, he is definitely a project at best. At the combine he was the fastest QB there. But when it came time to throw the ball he looked horrible. In fact, the only QB who threw well was Ryan Mallet. Taylor is undersized, inaccurate, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t get drafted. He would be fortunate to make the scout team for some team that doesn’t have a decent starter and lacks depth. The Vikings will not even consider him.

  116. By Kev on Apr 20, 2011 | Reply

    IMO vikes trade down and pick up more picks, unless a stud is there at 12 for need. Oline, a nasty DT or end, but I think a DE can be picked up later. like the different ideas for qbs. alot to chose from in later rnds. Devlin, Stanzi, Dalton, Ponder, Kaepernick in no special order, all positives and negs. I think Joe Webb has some moxy (Sp)? the way he was backpedaling and still looking down field showed some poise, and making a good throw. He needs to have his shot and let Musgrave work with him, if he doesn’t work out at QB still has talent for wr, fast, good hands, leaper. Can’t wait for the draft… gonna be fun, good luck to all your favorite teams….

  117. By Topguns on Apr 20, 2011 | Reply

    Next Decade’s Tom Brady

    Ricky Stanzi University of Iowa Vikings, you will NEVER regret drafting Ricky

  118. By Topguns on Apr 20, 2011 | Reply

    Ricky Stanzi University of Iowa

    Vikings, do not miss out on Ricky You will NEVER regret taking him

  119. By Ekolu on Apr 20, 2011 | Reply

    Stanzi’s a project, if we can get him in the later rounds, it will be worth it.

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