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A Quick Look At Extended Mock Drafts

Posted by Mike Wobschall on April 8, 2011 – 6:56 am

Simple 1-round mock drafts are a big enough inexact science. So what does that make a multi-round mock draft? Perhaps even more inexact. But they’re fun to look at anyway.

Recently both of ESPN.com’s draftniks – Mel Kiper, Jr. and Todd McShay – released their 3-round mock drafts. NFL.com’s Pat Kirwan has had a 2-round mock draft for several weeks. So since vikings.com’s Mock Madness 4.0 just came out this week and won’t be updated until next week, let’s take a brief look at a few multi-round mock drafts. It’ll be good fodder to tide us over for the weekend.

NFL.com – Pat Kirwan
We’ll start with Kirwan, who has the Vikings selecting DE Cameron Jordan with their 1st-round pick (#12 overall), saying Jordan is “is stout, can hold the point of attack, is nimble and can rush from the edge.” In the 2nd round, Kirwan projects the Vikings to take OG Danny Watkins of Baylor.

ESPN.com – Mel Kiper, Jr.
In what has become a consistent and nearly unanimous theme in mock drafts this year, Kiper also has the Vikings take a DE in the 1st round. Kiper says the Vikings will take DE Da’Quan Bowers, a player many regard as a top 2 or 3 pick if not for a knee injury he sustained last season. Says Kiper of Bowers: “Bowers has seen his stock take a slight hit in the past few weeks as he faces questions about just how healthy his knee is coming off surgery for a torn meniscus. That said, the Viking should be giddy to get a pass-rushing talent like Bowers at No. 12. Once the No. 1 player in the country coming out of high school, many believe Bowers has the skill-set of a No. 1 overall NFL draft pick.” In the 2nd round, Kiper has the Vikings taking another defensive lineman in DT Stephen Paea.

ESPN.com – Todd McShay
McShay agrees with Kirwan in projecting DE Cameron Jordan as the Vikings 1st-round pick. “Bowers will be in play if his knee checks out but Jordan is a good option given his size, quickness, power and versatility,” says McShay. For the 2nd round, McShay predicts the Vikings will select OT Marcus Cannon.


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  1. By Daniel on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    I like every one of those perdictions. NO QB! I could Strongly agree with those takes. Ilike Mcshays the most. I think we should trade Mckinnie while we can and possibly get our third back. GO GET MOSS! Get LIeber out of here, Draft the Kicker out of NEB, Pick up a Vet QB and get Luck or the guy out of USC next year. Mcnabb or bulger, or orton, or hasslebeck could come in and do well for a few years. besides, we do not have alot of time to get a QB ready this year if drafted and besides Gabbert, your looking at another braddy quinn in locker (at best) and another Byron leftwhich (at best) in Mallet. Look at Liebers stats last year, 30 some takles. Greenway 144, E.J-101. SEE THE DIFFERANCE? Big hole there. Build for the long Haul. replace mckinnie, Berrian, Lieber, Klinesasser, and Herrera. We can still trade! Get some picks guys! I like abdulla at saftey. He led the team in INTs and had 75 Tackles. Sounds good to me. Williams had 1 INT. He needs to move on. Two good safteys in the draft too. or move Winfield next to Abdulla and pick up another corner. I really think Cook and Griffen could lock it down. And Allen is coming on too.

  2. By Jeremy on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    I like the idea of starting with the lines. Usually, good things can happen from there. Till next time~

  3. By PAUL M. on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    PLEASE VIKINGS FRONT OFFICE: DO NOT DRAFT LOCKER!! HE’S TOO RISKY A PROJECT FOR SUCH A VALUABLE PICK, AND I WANT US TO STRIKE CERTIFIED GOLD AT #12!!! WE MUST DRAFT OUR QB OF THE FUTURE FOR THE RIGHT REASONS – INTELLIGENCE, ACCURACY & DECENT CHARACTER — BECAUSE “IF THEY AIN’T GOT IT BY NOW – WELL, THAT JUST “AIN’T GOOD ENOUGH” FOR THE #12 PICK.

    EITHER TRADE UP IN THE DRAFT FOR GABBERT, OR DRAFT A BLUE CHIP VERSATILE O-LINEMAN WORTHY OF THE PICK, OR POSSIBLY, JULIO JONES OR PRINCE AMUKAMARA. THESE OUR OUR 3 IMMEDIATE GAPING NEEDS !

    IN TODAY’S NFL, TEAMS LIKE GREEN BAY & CHICAGO WILL BE LINING UP WITH 4 OR 5 RECEIVERS & SPREADING OUT OUR DEFENSE — WE NEED CB’s – OR ROGERS, CUTLER & STAFFORD WILL BE FIST PUMPING IN OUR STADIUM.

    I LOVE PERCY & “SHANK”, BUT IF SIDNEY GOES, WHO OUT THERE ACTUALLY HAS FAITH IN THE ELITE RECEIVING ABILITIES OF BASKET OR BERRIAN? ADRIAN WILL BE FACING 8 MAN FRONTS ALL SEASON!

    DITTO FOR OUR O-LINE WHICH ALMOST SENT BRETT TO THE MORGUE LAST YEAR! OUR O-LINE IS OUR OFFENSE’S VIKING SHIELD, AND IT MUST BE STRENGTHENED THRU THE DRAFT.

    THEN GO FOR PONDER / DALTON IN ROUND 2 — OR THE HIGHEST RATED PLAYER ON THE BOARD.

    IT MAY JUST PROVE TO BE A BLESSING IN DISGUISE FOR US IF THERE ARE NO FREE AGENCY SIGNINGS BEFORE THE DRAFT. WHEN IT COMES TIME TO DEAL, THOSE FREE AGENTS MAY LOSE A LOT OF VALUE BECAUSE MANY TEAMS WERE FORCED TO DRAFT THOSE POSITIONS.
    THAT SHOULD LEAVE MANY VERY GOOD FREE AGENTS AGGRESSIVELY COMPETING WITH EACH OTHER FOR A GOOD TEAM TO PLAY ON.

    AGGRESSIVELY GO AFTER KOLB OR CLEMENS — WE NEED MORE QB’s ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. WE CAN NEVER HAVE TOO MANY QB’s. TEAMS HAVE ALWAYS GOTTEN THEIR $$$ & DRAFT PICKS / INVESTMENTS BACK BECAUSE OTHER TEAMS WILL ALWAYS BE DESPERATE FOR A GOOD YOUNG QB.

    I BELIEVE THAT KELLEN CLEMENS IS A VERY UNDERRATED QB! PLEASE CHECK OUT SOME TAPE.

  4. By Parody on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    Now there’s a surprise. All the QB hype this whole year and not a single one of these guys has the Vikes selecting a QB in the first two rounds. Not that I’m against it, but with everything I’ve been reading this offseason, it sounds very unlikely that the Vikes won’t be taking a QB early on. All the better though, I’d rather see what Joe can do this year and go after a stud next year if we need to.

  5. By LESLIE FRAZIER on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    ROUND I :TRADE DOWN WITH PATRIOTS TO GET A LATER 1ST ROUND PICK AND 3RD ROUND PICK AND GET ALDON SMITH (HE CAN PLAY EITHER OLB OR DE) BECAUSE EVERSON GRIFFEN AND BRIAN ROBINSON ARE BOTH VERY VERY GOOD
    ROUND 2: I HAVE A FEELING EITHER JAKE LOCKER OR RYAN MALLET WILL STILL BE HERE. EITHER ONE WOULD BE A GREAT FIT FOR US. PERSONALLY I’M A MALLET FAN.
    ROUND 3: WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE INTERIOR LINEMEN. JON SULLIVAN AND ANTHONY HERRERA AREN’T PROTOTYPE INTERIOR LINEMEN. I SAY WE GO FOR A CENTER, EITHER STEFEN WIESNEWSKI OR A GUARD LIKE DANNY WATKINS. OR WE COULD GO FOR ANOTHER POSITION LIKE AN OUTSIDE LINEBACKER AND PUT RYAN COOK AS OUR GUARD
    ROUND 4.: IF WE DON’T HAVE SIDNEY RICE BACK WE GO FOR A RECIEVER LIKE LEONARD HENKERSON FROM MIAMI. AND OUR SECOND ROUND 4 PICK WE GET A SAFETY. EITHER QUINTON CARTER FROM OKLAHOMA OR DEAUNTE WILLIAMS FROM NORTH CAROLINA
    ROUND 5:WE NEED A YOUNG NOSE TACKLE. EITHER SION FUA OF STANFORD OR JARVIS JENKINS OF CLEMSON WOULD BE A GREAT FIT HERE.
    ROUND 6 WE GET A FULLBACK. WHAT? YEAH!! A FULLBACK!!! MOST LIKELY CHARLES CLAY FROM TULSA WILL BE GONE. IF HE IS WE COULD GET OWEN MARECIC OF STANFORD OR HENRY HEYNOISKI FROM PITTS
    ROUND 7: AHMAD BLACK. SAFETY FROM FLORIDA:

  6. By Ryan on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    Don’t ignore the qb position in the first round a defensive end won’t take us to the superbowl a qb will common sense we’ve skipped the qb position in the past it has not gotten us anywhere. Sorry but veteran leftovers is getting old it doesn’t take rocket science to figure out we need a qb to compete with cutlers, rodgers, and stafford.

  7. By Richard on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    Daniel, that is the best situation that I seen since the draft discussion has begun. The only area I disagree with is that we should go out and get Vince Young. VY, Moss, Peterson, Shank, Harvin, Rice will be a lethal combo for any defense!

  8. By Daniel on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    I agree Richard. Good take.
    If we get luck or the kid out of Usc next year, we need a guy that fits one of those two QBs for next year. Young wants long term, and though might be fun to watch, I don’t think he could mentor. Palmer could, Kitna could, Hasslebeck could. those guys just have a few years and this setting and rebuilding could be perfect for their way out. I think they could be Big for the development of our franchise QB. There is not that guy this year! Maybe Gabbert? but after that? no way. IT’s a risk fellas! Everyone was totally on the Farve wagon when we went to the playoffs and did very well! we should have had a franchize qb in the stall behind Farve. that was our mistake. We have the chance to pick up a above average QB vet. and could very well help our guy coming in.

  9. By Richard on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    Daniel, any of those qb’s would be a great mentor i agree. You’re right VY might not be a great mentor. The only reason we didnt have a qb in the waiting, is because Chilly thought that TJack was that franchise qb. I know that Palmer wont be in purple, we cant give Cincy what they want for him.

  10. By Daniel on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    Fraiser Knows cincy well, and maybe we could swap Palmer and Berrian? just a thought. I like Palmer. Still has skills and could be a soild match for us.

  11. By Daniel on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    Not long term but just a mentor, and could give a QB in the waiting a ton of leadership. could very well be a great help in our development of our QB.

  12. By James on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    Ryan… common sense will show that a QB has never won a SB,Does it help you betcha very much but didn’t you learn anything in grade school, it takes a team. The great QB’s in the nfl were high draft picks(P.Manning)a few lower in 1st rd.(A.Rodgers)and less in late rds.(T.Brady).But i have seen QB’s loose SB’s(F.Tarkington….manySB..with maybe the best def. back then).And there is one thing most that won did was they took BPA and didn’t reach for a player most say this year is a risk after Gabbert at QB and OL should not be taken till late teens and def. players are deep this year and most say Paea will be there in the 2nd(stongest to ever come out of combine and very teachable)so should we reach or take BPA.I think we must get a fch qb. but not this yr.

  13. By Ryan on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    James you have no manners to be calling out someone you don’t know “they didn’t learn anything in grade school”. Maybe its just a part of your personality, but I was basing my opinions on what the vikings should do. I don’t think I did any name calling. Its funny how vikings fans are calling names to fans also shows you how strong the fan base is. Its true one thing about vikings fans are they would pick fights with each other.

  14. By Nick on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    We should snag Domnique Johnson out of Cal-Poly he has potential to be a Sydney Rice type wide out, and should be available in the 4th round.

  15. By Frederick Jones on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    @Nick,

    That’s the kind of blog we need, someone who knows of college players we could nab in the later rounds.

    I doubt the Viking Brass reads these blogs, but word of mouth has power.

    Marcus Sherels is a little fella, about 5’10” 170, but he can leap, and is extremely quick. He could fill a corner position in the near future for the Vikings.

  16. By James on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    Sorry Ryan,I play sports in grade school and we were push to make it a team sport if it took a team.I wish you would of had a chance to play sports in grade school or if you did that your coaches(nothing bad) would have told you QB don’t win in football a team does.No name calling just good coaching.So again sorry. If there was a QB at a point to trade a pick from 2012 draft(maybe N.E.)that could get both DT Paea and Locker etc. in 2nd would be great.

  17. By Frederick Jones on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    Joe Webb will beat out all comers at quarterback anyway. But you have to hope we build a strong enough offensive line to protect him.

    Not too many people are proficient at passing while on their backs !

    :) :) :) :) :)

  18. By James on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    Johnson of C-P did have a good year and has good hands so later rds will be good this year for nfl teams.

  19. By James on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    Webb learns more how AP works and if Rice is back he could play behind my old grade school line and be an elite QB and go to the playoffs.He’s a great scrambler and mobile QB and needs a chance to show them his skills.But a good valued OL rookie would be nice.

  20. By Jarrett88 on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    AP can help most QB out but a OL would be nice in the 3rd round after C.Jordon in the first!!!!!!Webb and AP can make this work if coach up.

  21. By animal26 on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    I cant believe how many people are overlooking 2 of the possible gems in this draft, the Vikings could get in the 5th 6th rounds for quarterback. Adam Weber and tyrod taylor. They are both have good pocket presence, both have good accuracy, both have decent arm strength. I would rather draft either one of these two later in the draft and use the first 3-4 draft picks in our Secondary, offensive line and defensive line.

  22. By Frederick Jones on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    @animal26,

    I think I did read something about the Vikings showing some interest in Adam Weber. They indicated that he might be a free agent.

    I’ve never heard of Tyrod Taylor. What do you know about him?

  23. By Frederick Jones on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    @animal26,

    I just looked at Tyrod Taylor’s wikipedia.

    The most impressive thing is that his stats improved so much from his junior year to his senior year. He had personal records in nearly every category.

    He is a bit short at 6’1″ and 215.

    But he could be the type of guy the will continue to improve for several more years like Joe Montana did early in his NFL career.

  24. By Parody on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    @ Fred – Something changed. Did the man in the middle have a good day? This is the first time I’ve seen him smile in months!

  25. By Frederick Jones on Apr 8, 2011 | Reply

    @Parody,

    The man in the middle is optimistic that the Vikings will pick a couple of good
    offensive linemen in this year’s draft.

  26. By Shaq on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    So as viking fans you all want the vikings to bomb this season so they can grab luck or barkley(usc qb) I think vikings should just get matt lienart and draft jake locker second round then the qb chart would be starter Matt lienart 2nd joe webb 3rd jake locker. oh and with the 12 pick we could possible trade up and draft patrick peterson after all we do need a cb to defend calvin johnson greg jennings and devin hester

  27. By Titus on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    Looks like we need more English courses.

  28. By Tim on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    the vikings most importent need in the draft is the offencive line we need to use our first pick on a O.T like nate solder big strong and fast he is the guy let mckinne and loadholt fight for the other offencive tackle spot also i would go after Donavan Mcnab FAVRE #4 MCNABB #5. 1 LEGEND DONT WORK TRY ANOTHER

  29. By prinzcharlez on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    Fellow Vikings, I for one would not be disappointed if the vikings do not draft a qb at all this year, especially for the future don’t force it and #12 If it isn’t there and don’t draft a qb just because. Plug other holes as needed and build from there, no sense wasting a pick if “our future” qb is not in this years class. Plus I like Joe Webb short term anyway.

  30. By xvike on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    It’s funny how people say that this years qb class is weak and that we should wait until next year to draft a qb…. For all we know, Luck is the only good qb who is going to come out next year and i doubt we’ll have the #1 pick to take him. Every year, everyone says the qb class is weak and that we should wait till next year. If everyone believes that, we may never draft a qb in the high rounds EVER! that’s why the vikings haven’t since culpepper. But the way i see it, there’s 5-6 qb’s or more that are deserving of being picked in the first two rounds this year…. HOW is this a weak qb class???? Last year, Bradford was the only qb projected to go top 5. There’s two this year. After bradford, you got tebow, clausen and Mccoy. Tebow was picked way too early, Clausen was a second and mccoy was a third i believe. There’s a bunch of solid qb prospects left after gabbert and newton. This is the year to take a QB!

  31. By Carl K on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    Bryant McKinnie turns 32 in september so they need to find his eventual replacement sooner or later. Phil Loadholt didn’t play as well in his second year as he did as a rookie. Ryan Cook is a free agent.

    OT is not a sexy #12 pick but it is a solid safe pick. The Vikings can’t go wrong with Anothoy Castonzo, Tyron Smith or Nate Solder.

  32. By chris26 on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    NO MORE STOP GAP QUARTERBACKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    You CAN NOT win today in the NFL if you don’t have a solid quarterback and that won’t come from picking up some guy that another team let go. If they were so great their teams wouldn’t let them leave. If you have an elite quarterback nobody with a brain would say ok, there’s the door.
    I think I am the only person who doesn’t beleive Webb will be anything more than T-Jack part 2. The guy had one or 2 nice plays, but is getting a lot more praise than he deserves just because he has wide out speed. Fast doesn’t necessarily mean good quarterback. I mean he went in the late rounds as a receiever for a reason. He looked inconsistant last year at best. You have to find a young long term qb. I’m not saying to force it if there is nobody worth the pick you are drafting with, but you can;t just keep saying “this old guy is good enough, for now. we’ll worry about it next year.” That’s what gets you last place in the division.

    Everyone forgets this is the same offensive line that was a game from the superbowl in Favre’s first year. Why? Consistant quarterback play. Favre spent most of last year injured and it took the team down with him.

  33. By Carl K on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    I am not a fan of reaching for a QB like Jake Locker in the 1st round. Lets compare the senior year stats for Locker and Joe Webb.
    QB rating: Locker 124.20 and Webb 150.7
    P@ssing yrds: Locker 2,265 and Webb 2,299
    TD p@sses: Locker 17 and Webb 21
    INTs: Locker 9 and Webb 8
    Wins: Locker 6 and Webb 4
    Completion %: Locker 55.4 and Webb 59.8
    Rushing Yrds: Locker 385 yrds and 6 tds, 3.4avg. and Webb 1429 yrds and 11TDs, 6.3 avg

  34. By Carl K on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    Locker has no shot a beating out Joe Webb as the Vikings QB. SO WHY TAKE LOCKER OR MALLET IN THE FIRST ROUND?

  35. By Carl K on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    I don’t like the stop gap QB idea either. Joe Webb is the guy!

  36. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    I seem to be the only one who read about Joe Webb as a QB ONLY.

    WHERE DID ALL THIS STUFF COME FROM OF WEBB DRAFTED AS A WR???

    All they talked about in the Mpls. Tribune was his quarterback play at UAB.

    He only played WR for one season. JOE WEBB IS A QUARTERBACK !

  37. By Carl K on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    Webb is a very talented QB who is fun to watch. The Vikings got a steal last year.

  38. By Carl K on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    @chris26 – Webb is 2 inches taller and alot faster and stronger than T-Jack.
    Webb is more poised in the pocket and a better leader on the field.

    Webb is more gifted and talented as a runner. T-jack in 2005 at Alabama state only ran for 285 yrds with a 2.8 yrd avg.

    The skill set Webb has is very unique… if you package that with the right offensive game plan around Adrian Peterson, Percy Harvin, Shancoe and hopefully Rice, the Vikings will have something unique and hard to defend.

  39. By Shawn on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    Carl k … great arguments for Webb, and I agree Webb is better than Locker and has more potential than Locker. I do think Mallet could be the next gunslinger Favre / Marino type . Mallet slings the ball with accuracy all over the field and occassionally he like Favre and Marino will throw a big INT. So he is not a Brady or Montana.

    I think Mallet is worth a shot but 12 might be too high …

    Locker sucks and I wouldnt consider him before round 5

  40. By DRS on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) — The Minnesota Vikings finally got their stadium bill Friday, but with only 45 days left in the legislative session the team will have to compete for attention from state lawmakers who are mulling deep spending cuts in response to a $5 billion budget shortfall.

  41. By Carl K on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    Shawn – I agree that 12 is too high for Mallet. I wouldn’t be disappointed if the Vikings selected him in the 2nd round. Mallet had a very good OL at Arkansas… my question is, is he mentally tough enough to take the pounding Favre took last year??

    T-Jack was also knocked out for the season too!!!!! We need a QB who can take the heat of a heavy rush and still look poised in the pocket AND have fun doing it. JOE WEB IS THE RIGHT GUY.

    What good is it to draft a QB in round 1 or trade for a guy like Kolb or Palmer if he can’t make it through the season. The Vikings need a moble durable QB in 2011.

  42. By DRS on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    The Minneapolis Star Tribune reports that “there were signs Monday that the referendum issue was leaving legislators conflicted,” especially those legislators who voted for the Twins’ referendum exemption but didn’t realize they’d be setting a precedent. Right now it sounds like a no-referendum pledge would face an uphill battle — if a county that is desperate to raise its own sales taxes for the sake of a billionaire sports team owner can even be found — but these things have been known to change once the lobbyists get ahold of them.

    Who would be responsible for a stadium defeat?

  43. By DRS on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    The one thing that’s clear: If a referendum were held, the Vikings would likely go down to massive defeat. Of course, for some elected officials that’s a sign not that there’s something wrong with the stadium deal, but that there’s something wrong with democracy: “I don’t believe in government by referendum. It lets elected officials off the hook for making judgments about these things,” said Hennepin County Commissioner Peter McLaughlin, while Minneapolis City Council President Barb Johnson worried that a referendum requirement “would really sabotage the effort to build a stadium in this time of economic turmoil.”
    http://www.fieldofschemes.com/news/archives/nfl/minnesota_vikings/

  44. By Carl K on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    With Peterson in the backfield and Harvin in the slot, teams will continue to put 8 or 9 guys in the box and bring the heat. The good new is it will open up opportunities on the perimeter.
    The bad news is, teams know we have trouble picking up a blitz or stopping a speed rush, so that limits our ability to take those shots down the field.

  45. By DRS on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    Michael Rand of the Star Tribune points out that it has been a while since a rookie quarterback has started in Minnesota.

    “Indeed, it has been a while. Fran Tarkenton in 1961 — the Vikings’ first year of existence — is the last true rookie we can find who led the team in passing (Joe Kapp played several years in the CFL before starting for the Vikings in 1967 at age 29. Daunte Culpepper, you’ll recall, was in his second year when he took over).”

    Rand also points out a list of several rookie quarterbacks that have started in the past. Those quarterbacks include: Mark Sanchez, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Matt Stafford, Josh Freeman and Sam Bradford.

    Of that list, Flacco, Ryan and Bradford had solid rookie seasons, but all of those guys (Outside of Bradford who has only played one year) went on and had successful seasons in year two, assuming they were healthy.

    Guys like Flacco, Freeman and Bradford don’t have a ton of offensive talent around them, but they have still succeeded in the NFL. One thing that those three guys did have this past season was a solid running game. That right there should give Minnesota hope that starting a rookie quarterback could indeed work out for this team in 2011

  46. By Mark B on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    I still like the OL pick in the first round – but it should happen at 28 (NE pick). I would address the QB issue in the 2nd or 3rd (picked up in the trade with NE) and grab Andy Dalton … the ONLY downside with him is arm strength. He has great touch on the down field throws, can make all the short/intermediate throws, makes great decisions with the ball, is mobile enough to avoid a rush but still looks to throw and most importantly is a leader and proven winner. I honestly would grab him 2nd round, I don’t think he’ll still be on the board when the Vikes would pick again.

  47. By DRS on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    In McShay’s latest Mock Draft, he has Mallett falling all the way to the Tennessee Titans with the seventh pick in the second round.
    The Minnesota Vikings have the 11th pick in the second round. If Ryan Mallett is there at that point, I think that it should be a done deal that they take him, assuming they don’t get a quarterback in the first round.

    Sure, he had a bad bowl game and didn’t answer some questions at the Combine like NFL teams would have liked him too, but this guy has the size, arm strength and skill to be an absolute stud at the NFL level. He had a great college career and could have a great pro career if put in the right situation.
    The ideal move here would be for Minnesota to trade or sign a veteran quarterback who can start next year and take Mallett under his wing. If that can happen, the Vikings shouldn’t worry about trading up to get Blaine Gabbert. They would already have a great situation with Mallett as their quarterback of the future. He is just too skilled to not take a shot at in the second round.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/655378-nfl-draft-2011-latest-minnesota-vikings-news-rumors-and-speculation/entry/59426-2011-nfl-draft-could-ryan-mallett-be-the-answer-at-quarterback-for-the-vikings

  48. By DRS on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    Tom Pelissero of 1500 ESPN in Minneapolis says:

    “I think Blaine Gabbert’s the guy they’d want if available,” he says.

    “If available” is the tricky part. Nearly a dozen teams will go in the first round before Minnesota, and at least seven of those teams could possibly draft a quarterback. If the Vikings really think Gabbert is their best option, they’d best be prepared to make a hefty offer to trade to the top of the draft — and that could be difficult, since players can’t be traded unless the lockout ends between now and the draft.”

    The deal here is that Minnesota needs a starting quarterback and that guy just isn’t on their roster right now. People have said that the Vikings will attempt to draft a quarterback, and sign a quarterback for the upcoming 2011 season. That way, the rookie can learn behind a veteran for a year and will be ready to take over somewhere down the road.

    If they can pull off the right trade, then do it because Gabbert is probably the best quarterback in this year’s draft. But it looks more and more every day like the lockout is going to extend beyond the draft, which makes this deal nearly impossible.

    Look for the Vikings to eye either Jake Locker with that No. 12 pick, or wait until the second round, where a guy like Andy Dalton of TCU or Ryan Mallett of Arkansas could be available with that selection.

  49. By DRS on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    The Vikings’ defensive line has been a foundation of the organization and a dominant group in recent memory. But Pat Williams is on his way out, and Ray Edwards, a free agent, probably will follow. Minnesota did re-sign Brian Robison, which cannot be overlooked.

    It is conceivable that the Vikings will use a high draft pick to help fortify their defensive line. Youngsters such as Everson Griffen or especially Letroy Guion should be primed for an increase in playing time and the chance to show what they are capable of doing. If Allen is the threat that he was before 2010, those adjustments and personnel changes will go much more smoothly.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6254210

  50. By DRS on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    Have to go, God bless U-all.

  51. By Bubba on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    @DRS – The idea of the Vikings trading up to get Gabbert sounds good at first. Carolina takes Cam Newton #1 and we trade up with Denver and take Gabbert with the second pick. No problem right?

    Trading up from #12 to #2 is a difference of 1400 point on a draft value chart.
    Even if we were willing to trade the rest of our 7 picks (round 2 through 7) we would still come up apox 700 points short. That is like an additional late first rd high 2nd round pick next year.

    DRS, would you really trade all our picks this year and our first round pick next year to get Gabbert????????

  52. By Carl K on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    Percy Harvin averaged 5.07 catches per game in 2010. In Joe Webb’s 2 starts at the end of the year Harvin had 15 catches.

    Webb did a good job finding Percy Harvin.

  53. By Aceviking on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    I read somewhere that Harvin want out of Minny because of contract issues. That had better not be the case.

  54. By Titus on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    Will there be a season?

  55. By Titus on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    Otherwise, this is all conjecture, looking backwards.

  56. By Titus on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    Or, is it conjecture looking forward?

  57. By Titus on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    Until there is a stadium and a season, it’s all conjecture, looking sideways.

  58. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    @Titus,

    The draft is alway conjecture anyway.

    But it will happen.

    Hopefully we won’t just draft offensive skill position players.

    You start rebuilding a team by drafting linemen.

  59. By Frederick Jones on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    Not only was Joe Webb a QB in 3 out of 4 seasons at UAB, he also was a quarterback in high school gaining all-state honors as a senior.

    He played football, basketball, and baseball in high school. He was an honor roll student.

    In college he made Conference USA All-Academic as a freshman.

    The only reason Joe Webb played wide receiver for UAB is probably because they felt he was too good of an athlete to sit on the bench !

    Joe Webb is a serious Quarterback threat ! ! !

  60. By Titus on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    The draft can happen, but without a season, it is conjecture looking inward— we will only imagine what could happen.

  61. By Titus on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    Stop the insanity.

  62. By Titus on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    PAAAAAleeese!

  63. By Mike B on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    lol there’s Fred taughting his latest fav QB. First it was TJack and that didn’t pan out very well. Now it’s Joe Webb. You need to talk to Coach Frazier there Fred. I don’t think he hears you. If Joe is the guy, well why are they looking at QB so hard. Hmm Maybe cause he’s not the guy. Just like I told you about TJack. There are holes in Joe Webb’s ability at QB that we are not seeing. From what I have read Webb isn’t ready to be a starting QB in the NFL and may not be. I think he can be a great wildcat player and is the reason the Vkings drafted him. Fred get another cup of coffee this horse is almost as done a deal as TJack was. To believe he is good and is he actually good is too different things. Lots of College QBs are not NFL QBs. But we will see only 3 weeks left. Have Fun

  64. By Mike B on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    oops sorry about the spelling errors

  65. By Lito on Apr 9, 2011 | Reply

    Gabbert or Newton. If not, get BPA, then get a QB.

  66. By Frederick Jones on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    @Mike B.,

    WoW, it’s been quite some time since I have been attacked !

    I was just ready to say that there are a lot of other people who see
    a future with JOE WEBB :) as the QB for the MN Vikings.

    I am not alone.

    TJack is not done yet. He may leave Minnesota, but he is not done
    in the NFL yet.

  67. By Mike B on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    Not attacking Fred just pointing out that you put your money on some bad horses. I think an objective look is always better than trying to prop up someone that is not ready. You were all in for TJack and now Joe Webb with full knowledge that either is the choice of the head coach. Just seems to me I wouldn’t be polling so hard for them as there could be substance to the doubt there. So not attacking just trying to point you back at the wall where the writing is. Take care

  68. By MGR4FUN on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    well 1st of all i am sold on florida c/g michael pouncey … his diversity to play several positions increases his quality / value as my pick at #12 … for that same reason california’s de cameron jordan may likely be the purple #12 … what a huge draft it could be to find a way to obtain both and maybe even worth givin up something special to ensure that happenin … i agree that #14 joe webb is the best man for the purple qb …

  69. By Jarrett88 on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    Fred you have a good outlook on J. Webb he will do better this year if given the chance> First they need to get back to OTA,s and other team workouts……..I heard the colt,s are look at a QB this year does that show that P.Manning is looking bad,no they talked that this years QB draft class needs to learn on the bench a couple yrs………Many teams are looking this year….So BPA is the way to go at #12.

  70. By Frederick Jones on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    @Jarrett88,

    You make a good point. The QB position is the most important position, and you can’t really have too many good ones.

    That’s why I do not think getting Kolb from Philadelphia will be easy.

  71. By Frederick Jones on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    @Mike B.,

    I wasn’t any more “All IN” for TJack than I was Coach Childress.

    People call Childress names like idiot, liar, cheater, lazy, and etc., as if he is trying to lose.

    I guarantee that Childress was working 14 hour days the year round, like most other NFL head coaches.

    Maybe he was not the best NFL level head coach, but he didn’t deserve the treatment he received.

    The same is true of TJack, he deserved better treatment than he got from MN fans.

  72. By James on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    Looking at QB this year or even the OL players after Newton and Gabbert not much but DEF. players? Pick BPA or trade back for value.Webb will compete this year so bring in a vet. QB.

  73. By Frederick Jones on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    PS,

    I meant to say that getting Kolb from Philadelphia WILL NOT be easy.

  74. By Carl K on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    A Peterson is arguably the best back in the NFL… but last year he only had 5 games where he rushed for over 95 yards.

    AP had 6 games where he was held under 75 yrds. Agianst the Giantst he only had 26 yrds and agianst Detriot he had 31 yrds.

    I don’t think AP is the problem. Toby Gerhart only rushed for 77 yrds in his start agianst the Bears.

    A rookie QB will not fix this problem… A new DE will not fix this problem…

    AP is a big time back and we need an OL that can get the job done.

  75. By DRS on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    2011 NFL Mock Draft: Minnesota Vikings: 12. Cam Newton, QB, Auburn

    By Dmitriy Ioselevich

    (Featured Columnist) on March 23, 2011

    The Vikings will have an easy decision to make if the draft works out this way. Brett Favre is gone (we think) and Minnesota needs a franchise quarterback to step in and get the team back to the playoffs.

    Newton is the best quarterback available so he’s the logical choice, despite some serious flaws in his game. The Vikings could also reach for Jake Locker if Newton is gone, or even grab J.J. Watt to give Jared Allen a tag-team partner.

  76. By DRS on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    Variety of factors leads to mock draft changes up and down the board

    By Todd McShay
    Scouts Inc.

    The 2011 NFL draft is just a few weeks away and things are finally beginning to come into focus.

    All of our game-tape evaluations are in the books. From this point on the only minor shakeups to our draft board will be directly linked to information from NFL teams regarding player red flags such as durability and character concerns.

    Plus, because the lockout is preventing NFL players from moving, free agency isn’t changing team needs like it usually does.

    I’ve expanded my latest projection to cover the first three rounds and here’s how I see things playing out.

    Carolina Panthers
    Record: 2-14

    * Cam Newton, QB, Auburn
    Newton is not the No. 1 player on my board — that would be Alabama DT Marcell Dareus — and defensive tackle is as much of a need as quarterback, but I’m hearing a lot of buzz from people in the league that Carolina is leaning toward a quarterback. I’m also hearing the Panthers favor Newton over Missouri’s Blaine Gabbert, and where there’s smoke there’s often fire. It’s not that Gabbert’s stock is falling, it’s just that Carolina apparently likes Newton’s incredible physical tools and immense upside.

  77. By DRS on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin Badgers
    Height: 6’6″
    Weight: 292
    Year: Jr.
    40-Time: (NFL Scouting Combine Time Feb. 23 – Mar. 1 to be added)

  78. By DRS on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    Strengths

    J.J. Watt has been working on his burst as he prepares for the NFL Scouting Combine. In-game, when he got out of his stance quickly, he was a nightmare to block. The fact that he’s focusing on this area of his game to get off the ball even quicker is promising. He’s a high motor guy that plays tough and with aggression through the fourth quarter.

  79. By DRS on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    We need a vet QB to lead the Vikings to a SB. In 2011 or 2012 if there is no season this year. A young QB is needed in the draft, but only as a team leader for the future, maybe 2013 or so.

  80. By DRS on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    Have to, maybe to marrow. Bye.

  81. By BaazookaJoe on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    I like those mock picks!! Those are much needed positions and no QB picks. QB pick is not needed till the later rounds, just looking for a back up as far as the QB position goes. Finally some mock picks that make sence. Skol Joe and Skol vikes.

  82. By Stadium on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    TIC TOC TIC TOC TIC TOK

  83. By Titus on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    Here’s an idea. Save everyone a lot of money. Remember the old drive-ins where you would park your car and watch a movie? Let’s get a big piece of land– bulldoze and move earth to make a natural amphitheater– drive up and enjoy the game— no need for a separate parking lot– great seats, and if it rains, you are sheltered— and we can have speakers on the windows just like in the drive ins– PLUS, we can use our car horns to help the defense– just have speakers near the cars to amplify the horns onto the field— teams won’t know what hit them. Saves on concessions– you can have a lot of food in a trunk. Just watch your drinking.

  84. By Frederick Jones on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    @Carl K.

    Thanks for the perspective on the offensive line. You are right about All Day’s performance falling off at times. Usually this is because of the offensive line.

    When a rb does well, credit the offensive line.

    Our biggest weakness right now is the OFFENSIVE LINE.

    :) :) :) :) :)

  85. By Parody on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    @Titus – Then what happens when a brawl breaks out? A lot of people will feel a lot more comfortable fighting from their seat…

  86. By Parody on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    And then what happens when a couple of drunk idiots decide to go streaking? You have to assume that at least a couple of players aren’t going to be able to get out of the way in time…

  87. By Titus on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    Parody, do you mean what happens if they drive across the field? Ha ha ha. Well, there could be barricades to prevent that.
    Fred, I think there will be less chance of a brawl– just drive off.
    Of course, people would dress their cars up instead of their bodies. That might lead to some competition and even some drag racing– like the streaking idea Parody brought up.
    What can I say? I think outside the box.
    Seriously, the O Line is where it’s at– look at our 98 season at 15-1– I remember a game late that year when Madden said our O Line was the best in all of football– and we had Robert Smith, not AP. Imagine a great OLine with AP.

  88. By Titus on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    Oh, am not reading well tonight–Parody mentioned the brawl scenario. Too much on my plate this week– probably won’t be around much till later in the month-

  89. By Parody on Apr 10, 2011 | Reply

    We had a great oline in ’09 though. Two guys were selected to the pro bowl, another (Herrera) was receiving praise from Matt Birk as a guy who is on the verge of being a great player, and a rookie at right tackle who was graded as a top-ten selection in hindsight mock-drafts. We still have all those same guys on the team, they just need to figure out what it was that they lost last year and get it back. But it wouldn’t hurt to add some promising young talent to prepare to step in for the older vets.

  90. By GOLDVIKE on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    IF WE DON’T GET HELP ON THE O-LINE IT WON’T MATTER WHO OUR Q.B, IS GO SMILING JOE WEBB!!!!!!!!!

  91. By Lance on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    Why dont we just pick up Hasselbeck or Palmer. Address our other needs by picking the best available. Then late in the draft pick up Nathan Enderle from Idaho. He is from a small school so he didnt stand out but he posseses everything needed to built into a future quarterback. He just needs some time. Get a vet guy to farm up Webb and Enderle.

  92. By Daniel on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    why is the line so important? first look at the age of our line, very old, hutch is awsome, but is really getting up there fellas. Mckinnie Got used up by Peppers. Man was that not fun to watch. and Herrera. seems to me when we made that great run in 09 Herrera was the spot that defences attacked. right through sullivan and Herrera. Last year Mckinnie was constantly used and so was Sullivan and Herrera. I like Mckinnie, don’t get me wrong, But he still has value, and someone would love to bring him in for a good pick. We could get that 3rd pick back, maybe more, and would be a great spot to pick up a Center. There are a couple good Centers and Guards out there. We have got to build for the long Haul just like dungy said. That was some great advise. I think addressing the lines and even Kicker (Neb Kicker) would help big time. look, next year there are waaaaaaay better QB prospects out there. Do the math. use your 1 or 2 pick on a risky QB, or make the o-line and D-line younger, quicker, more firepower, and built for the long haul. bring in a vet for two years that will be a mentor for next years qb. who knows how much time the team will have to absorb the new playbooks, and coaching staff? one thing is for sure, I would want a Vet there till the dust settles. But O-line and D-line SHOULD be priority. How many business owners are out there? would you put your money on something risky? That is the first rule of Business “nothing risky” And for the love of all things, Get rid of Lieber!!!!! Look at last years stats…30 some tackles!!!!!!!!!! how do you have E.J at 101, Greenway at144, and Lieber at 30?

  93. By Daniel on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    Sorry for spelling errors, and such long takes. Just love my team, no matter how much they dissapoint me. Squeaky wheel gets the grease! Just bear with me guys as I try to spit out whats on my mind. Thats what this blog is for right?

  94. By Rick on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    JOE WEBB-JOE WEBB-JOE WEBB-JOE WEBB!!!!!!!!!! and DEFENSE. COMMON MAN!!!!!!!

  95. By DRS on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    Via Sporting News, we have learned that visitors to the Metrodome between April and November can tour the facility for a $4 fee. The first 2,000 folks to take the tour get to bring home part of the old roof.

  96. By DRS on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    FACT CHECK: DeMaurice Smith at the University of Virginia’s Darden School of Business
    FACT: The proposal owners made to the players on March 11 would have paid players $19-20 billion in cash and benefits over the next four years (2011-2014) – a 14 percent increase representing an additional $2 billion compared to the past four years. In addition, the proposal would have:
    • Reduced the offseason program by eliminating five weeks and cutting OTAs from 14 to 10 days.
    • Put limits on full-padded practices in the regular season.
    • Increased days off.
    • Increased retirement benefits so that more than 2,000 retired players would have received almost a 60% increase in their pension benefit.
    • Offered players the opportunity to have lifetime coverage in NFL medical plan.
    • Offered for the first time to revise disciplinary system so that a third-party neutral arbitrator resolves all drug and steroids cases.
    • Offered improvements in the disability plan, the 88 Plan, and post-career benefits, including education and career transition programs

  97. By DRS on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    Who to feel sorry for?

  98. By DRS on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    Have to go for now. Bye.

  99. By Viksfan123 on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    PLEASE VOTE FOR ADRIAN PETERSON AT
    http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/feature/madden2012cover

  100. By Frederick Jones on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    @DRS,

    Thank you for the information. That does seem like a very good offer. Why are the players against it?

  101. By Parody on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    @Fred – My understanding is that the players are against it because the owners are not showing evidence of actual income. The players want to know the final numbers that are coming in so that they can decide how much of that they think they deserve.

  102. By Parody on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    Some caution to selecting a DE in the first round. This doesn’t seem to be a decision that has gone well for the Vikings in their history, especially in the recent history.

    With 54 overall first round draft picks, the Vikings have selected 11 DEs in the first round, which accounts for about 20% of the picks. You need to go all the way back to 1985 to find the last good player we landed with a 1st round DE selection, named Chris Doleman. In 15 seasons he averaged 10-sacks a year. The only other good selection we had here was Carl Eller, whose sack total is unaccounted for, but who we all know was one of the best there ever was regardless. All other 1st-round DEs averaged 5-sacks a year or worse.

    Further, I looked over the players who I can distinctly recall, and am comfortably familiar with all of the last 13-years’ 1st-rounders. Of them, I qualified 4 as failed picks, 4 as good selections, and 5 as great selections. Included with the 4-failures were 3-DEs and 1-WR.

    So the question becomes, if we go with a DE in the 1st-round this year, will we be able to dodge our bad luck? Personally I’d rather the team not try to tempt fate, since we have bigger needs in other areas. Let Robison and Griffen hold down the fort opposite Allen and bring in a replacement for Pat Williams instead.

  103. By Mike B on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    I think the OL doubters are looking at last year as a reason to dump what we had and go for something new. Right side of the line has been makeshift for a while now, but the left side has been solid for several years. Some people question McKinney’s effort and maturity. I say he had a bad year last year and that happens. He said at the end of the season he was not in the best shape and was going to work offseason to get in better shape. 09 there wasn’t much complaint about the OL but last year there was. Everyone needs to remember we played the toughest teams in the NFL last year and we played all of them.. The Packers only had a 10-6 regular season record and won the superbowl. That is very telling as the NFC North played the best teams in the league. Farve was rusty at the start of the season and we were out our no 1 WR. Our starting center was out many games last year, so to blame the OL for last year is over reaching I think. If you don’t have a guy to air the ball out too other teams will play in to get at AP. Coaching was a definate issue last year. Poor decisions. We just didn’t play at the same level as 09 and that happens. So you make changes, you refocus and you move on. I think we have better positions to fill than the OL. I am with coach Fraizer get us the guy to lead the vikings in the future. That’s what we need. If it’s Webb, Mallet, Locker, or some other guy let’s get him in here and get going. I think Farve is one of the Great QBs, but he hurt us last year. Now is the time to find the Guy. Take care

  104. By Mike B on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    Good one Parody, That’s exactly what’s holding this whole train up. The players want to see how big this pie is and then start negotiating. Owners obviously don’t want their books in the open as the public will see how much is really made in professional sports. They were fighting to meek the TV contracts private. The sports leagues are some of the remaining legal monopolies in the US. Why not have them open the books and let us all see how much is in that pie. Maybe then we would have to cost share so much for these big stadiums. Think on that. Have fun

  105. By Mike B on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    oops fighting to keep TV contracts private

  106. By Mike B on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    would not have to cost share on stadiums. (maybe I should proof read before I submit.) :)

  107. By Stadium on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    @fred , parody , drs and whoever else … the other thing that the players are not happy with is the length of the deal, they dont want to go through all of this again in 3 years … and you are right about the books

    to you and me who know nothing about the business the owners threw out huge numbers and expect fans to support the owners because of course to us those numbers sound amazing … but there are things they are not showing its smoke and mirros

  108. By Stadium on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    by the way have you got a stadium deal yet?

  109. By Parody on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    @Mike B – I’m mostly with you on your stance with the OLine. I still am one who thinks that McKinnie has issues to work out. Call it maturity and effort if you want, but when it comes down to it he’s just not doing as good as we all know he can. I think that can be turned around with proper coaching, and I think that we brought in some good coaches for him this year.

    Overall this line still has a good chance to rebound from last year. For the draft this year, I’d like to see an interior lineman brought in who can compete with Sullivan and/or Herrera and set up as a potential replacement. We should be able to find a good player for this somewhere in rounds 2 or 4.

  110. By Vikings4life on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    Please draft Amukamara if he is still there it should be a no brainer, Unless Robert Quinn Slips to 12. Amukamara is a great overall corner and is number 21 (Leslie Frazier wore 21)
    I Just believe that currently we have a lot more depth and talent at Defensive End then we do at corner back.
    Antione Cedric are very good and next year Chris Cook will be very good but having another great and young corner would allow Antione to play in the slot where he is best. Amukamara could start all year.
    All you ever hear is that this is a Quarterback League so having a great starting secondary as well as depth is crucial especially to win in our division, where there are 3 very pass happy teams with Cutler, Rodgers and Stafford, but in all the league.

  111. By Vikings4life on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    Joe Webb is the guy he is our future QB, Jimmy Clausen, Colt McCoy, Tebow.
    I would say Joe looked more promising then all three of them maybe not McCoy. But they all had a full year to prepare to be Quaterbacks while Joe was preparing to be a WR.
    And he still out performed most of the rookie quaterbacks,
    People have been doubting Joe but he will prove everyone wrong 6th round pick 199 is destined for greatness when you get a QB out of it.

  112. By Titus on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    Communist Manifesto

  113. By Mike B on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    Sorry Vikings4Life I am not buying in on that. If Joe Webb is the guy he would already be the guy. They brought Farve back for another game and there is a reason for that. Joe Webb is not ready to be an NFL QB. A heck of a wildcatter yes. QB no. But hey he could prove us wrong, but so far hasn’t proven that to the Coach and that’s where it counts no matter what any of us like or say. Could they struggle throough a year with Webb and see if he gets better? Sure then you use up one more year with AP which is a hot commodity. I like the idea of pulling the trigger trade up get a go to guy see if we can put it together this year or go after a guy like Kolb. If you are looking to win now, go for it. If you are rebuilding, go for a player that is long lasting like DL or OL. The stadium bill will not be done before the draft so there is a push to win now than later. I also the team going after free agents to establish a win now team. Sullivan is basically in his second year this year with all the injury problems he has last year. It takes awhile for a center to get good. Loadholt should be much better this year which will strength the right side. You can’t just fit rookies into the OL and expect them to be good it takes time to adjust to the NFL type game.

  114. By VikeFan on Apr 11, 2011 | Reply

    This is just a little something I have noticed over the many years as a Fan. Most of any great Viking success has been led by a MOBILE qb. We have had pocket passers (no luck) and if they did they were MOBILE. The Vikings need to strengthen the OL. No Doubt. However, if we use all the picks we still will struggle at OL. The QB must be mobile. I say trade for a later 1st and a 3rd. Pick up Veteran QB. 1st round (Jake Locker) 2nd round DE 3rd OL start to build the team around a young QB. Depending on the Veteran I would start the 1rd QB

  115. By Daniel on Apr 12, 2011 | Reply

    Past round one and two, I have been studying these prospects. Take a look at these guys fellas. I think are great players who we could get our hands on.
    Jaiquan Jarrett. S. Temple. This Guy is a flat out football player. Watch his tape and you WILL be very impressed.
    Kendric Burney. CB. NC. Love the way this guy covers, and hits. plays better than Asher Allen.
    Bruce Carter. OLB. NC.-complete player. solid player, who if was not hurt should be in the top 15 rd 1.
    John Moffitt. C/G. Wisconsin. 6-4 G who is predicted to play Center or Guard. Great player, with size and the best Center in my eyes in the draft.
    Wr Greg Little. NC- Strong and tough. Great size and alot of upside.
    WR Ryan Whalen- Stanford. Best blocking WR. Could make a great TE, and special teams player.
    Kicker- Alex Henery. Neb.- Very,very, solid. big time pick.
    Kicker-Josh Jasper. LSU. Another solid Kicker.
    QB- Greg Mcelroy. Alabama.-love this guys passion and leadership, and they way he handles the offence. good passer too. Better than John Parker Wilson in Atlanta. Great upside. Good backup.

  116. By Daniel on Apr 12, 2011 | Reply

    QBs next year-Andrew Luck. Stanford. Fanchize QB.
    Barkley-QB. USC. Franchize QB.
    QB- Tyrel Pryor. Ohio State-The third best Qb. Better prospect than vince young, or Cam Newton.
    Any one of these guys are better than anyone in this years draft.
    We NEED one of these guys, no QB this year.

  117. By vikings4life on Apr 12, 2011 | Reply

    Mike B- I do agree with what you are saying that Joe has not Proved it to Coach Frazier or the Fans that he can be the franchise qb or even a starter. But In his situation where Leslie is a New Coach and it would be a great risk for him to start such a wild card his first year as head coach. Thats why i do not believe he will, as for AP your completley right that it will be another year of his prime used up.

    As for Favre it was just a political act, he wanted to give brett the respect of him choosing to play or not look at how fast Leslie said he would not want Favre after the season was done.
    Leslie knew that it was Favre last couple games of his life and did the right thing by giving him the choice of going out there.

    Every Quaterback needs reps, at first Aaron Rodgers his first year didnt make it to the playoffs then lost in the wildcard his second year, and by no means was he the golden boy everyone loves now. He struggled those first two years like anyone will, Peyton, Tom , Brees, Rivers i mean all of the franchise qb didnt jsut start winning right out of the gate.

    Joe Webb deserves a chance bottom line and if he gets a fair chance he will be the starter ,There are times that you can just know that a player will be great, 1999 Randy Moss , Larry Fitzgerald, Adrian Peterson, Joe just has a great attitutde about his position on the team he doesnt think he owns the right to play QB he is trying to earn it and NO OTHER QB ON OUR LAST 5 ROSTERS WOULD HAVE BEAT THE EAGLES, WHEN PEOPLE WHERE SAYING THEY WERE LATE PLAYOFF FAVORITES.

  118. By Frederick Jones on Apr 12, 2011 | Reply

    @Vikings Fan for Life,

    Thank you for your input on Joe Webb. (Maybe we should start calling him,
    Joe Willie Webb!)

    At the very least Joe Willie Webb (JWW) will entertain Viking fans with his scrambles and laser throws.

  119. By KQ on Apr 12, 2011 | Reply

    It’s time to take a QB!!! Not next year or the year after. Every year it’s the same story then something comes up where there is an excuse to wait til the following year. We’ve done the veteran thing too many times with nothing to show. I have no problem signing a veteran to groom a rookie but waiting for Qb’s in next years draft is ridiculous. A lot can happen from now and then. What do we have to lose? We’ve done the whole wait on a QB enough so why not try the other way. It can’t get any worse!

  120. By VikeFan on Apr 13, 2011 | Reply

    I have been looking at the Draft point chart. IDK this sounds pretty good to me. I believe Locker could be the QB However alot of sites are now picking him to begone before #12. In this case I think I would like to see the trade down with the Pats. The numbers work.
    Minnesota: 1(#12) + 2(#43)= 1670
    New Eng: 1(#17) + 1(#28) = 1610 [could dare to ask for 4th(#125)] = 1657
    I know this leaves us out of rounds 2 and 3 but hey. New England still has a 1st round then 3 second round picks. They might take it. This would open a possible DE, OL pick at #17 then at #28 still have great choices for the QB. Any thoughts?

  121. By dave on Apr 14, 2011 | Reply

    i like leslies if we get mallet or locker we need to get a veteran to train whichever still and id rather have mallet. just dont reach for a quarterback its a bad class. u could build up at offensive line and get matt barkley or andrew luck if we do bad. MAtt barkley wont get drafted as fast but he’ll be able to start still. It might be hard for fans but u wont regret it in the future.

  122. By Chilly-B on Apr 14, 2011 | Reply

    Let’s trade back 5-10 or so positions and get more picks. We might be able to get as many as four or five additional picks and still get a quality player in the first round. There’s even a chance Jordan and Bowers are still there.

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