Winfield Named To NFC Pro Bowl Roster

Posted by Mike Wobschall on January 24, 2011 – 12:27 pm

Minnesota Vikings CB Antoine Winfield was named to the NFC Pro Bowl team on Monday, replacing Tramon Williams of the Green Bay Packers, who will be participating in Super Bowl XLV. It marks the 3rd straight season that Winfield was recognized as a Pro Bowler and the 3rd time overall in his 12-year career.

Winfield was the only member of the Vikings secondary to appear and start in all 16 games during the 2010 season. Winfield was 3rd on the team in total tackles with 110, which was the 2nd highest output of his career. He finished the season with 3 tackles-for-loss, 9 passes defended, 2.0 sacks, 2 INTs, 1 forced fumble, 1 fumble recovery and 1 defensive TD. Winfield shined in the national spotlight when playing at the Philadelphia Eagles on December 28. He recorded 2.0 sacks, 1 tackle-for-loss, 9 tackles and forced and recovered a Michael Vick fumble, which he returned 45 yards for a TD, the longest fumble return of his career.

Winfield joins Vikings CB Carl Lee as the only CBs in team history to reach the Pro Bowl 3 times in their career. Lee attended 3 straight Pro Bowls from 1988-1990.

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91 Responses to “Winfield Named To NFC Pro Bowl Roster”

  1. By Malte on Jan 24, 2011 | Reply

    Congratulations Antonie Winfield. You deserve it hard working, great tackling corner :)

  2. By kyweaver on Jan 24, 2011 | Reply


  3. By GMan on Jan 24, 2011 | Reply

    Antoine Winfield is one of our best players. I like the way he plays that roving, 3rd corner spot. We should keep that up…it’s kinda the same way the Green Bay Pukers use Charles Woodson.
    Go Vikes!

  4. By Frederick Jones on Jan 24, 2011 | Reply

    To become contenders next year, the Vikings need to get defensive secondary healthy, and fix the offensive line.

    These are not easy tasks, but can be done.

    ——- :) :) :) :) :)

  5. By DRS on Jan 24, 2011 | Reply

    Remember GB fans, according to you the NFC championship means nothing, it is the SB that counts and you do not have that yet this year! I think Pittsburg will be too much for you.

  6. By DRS on Jan 24, 2011 | Reply

    Frederick Jones, spot on and a O-Line as well.

  7. By DRS on Jan 24, 2011 | Reply

    Got to go and do some plumbing. God bless.

  8. By DRS on Jan 24, 2011 | Reply

    Go Winfield.

  9. By Nightdog on Jan 24, 2011 | Reply

    To all Green Bay Fans:

    Your Welcome!

    The Vikings

  10. By Dave on Jan 24, 2011 | Reply

    congrats Antoine ! Your the man. Does anybody know WHY is Chad greenway not in the pro bowl ? BLOWS MY MIND! i think somewhere around 170 takles this season over 100 solo!! He’s a tackling machine. Dont even make it as a replacement???? You got my vote chad !

  11. By Tim on Jan 24, 2011 | Reply

    I agree Dave, I was surprised that chad was not selected I think he was NFC’s leading tackler, and 4th in the whole league for tackles, I think that alone should be good enough to get him in even as a replacement at least.

  12. By brian gosnell on Jan 24, 2011 | Reply

    Winfeild is one of the best in the league and has been for a long time. Keep crackin skulls!!

  13. By Carl K on Jan 24, 2011 | Reply

    Watching Winfield blitz off the corner all night during the Philly games was the #1 highlight to the 2010 season. Congrates Antoine.

    @Dave – Chad has played at a Pro Bowl level the last two years. As fans we need to mount a charge and find a way to get him to the Pro Bowl next year.

  14. By milltrain on Jan 24, 2011 | Reply

    thats exactly what im saying… we can not draft a qb this year. we need secondary, o line, and d line help. we have joe webb, who, granted is very raw, but i think he is the rookie talent they will develop in to a qb, and then sign a free agent qb. or trade for one. winfield will not be around forever and patty williams is getting up there.. plus, our offensive line was a bit of a mess this year.

  15. By Ryan on Jan 24, 2011 | Reply

    It is time to put the qb situation the first priority we have never paid much attention to this position and look where it has gotten us. I believe first round needs to be a qb it is time address this unsettled position. I think we tend to focus way too much on everything else and forget about the qb situation, it is the most important position, Our second need is o-line.

  16. By sigg07 on Jan 24, 2011 | Reply

    Antonio was one of my choices for the X-factors at the beggining of the year. And there you have it . Pro bowl here you come . GREAT job .Ill pick u again and again. Thank you for your great year ,sigg07 GO VIKINGS what a Great New coaching staff will do just watch .THAT IS ANOTHER XFACTOR FOR NEXT YEAR . GREAT JOB FRAISER

  17. By xvike on Jan 24, 2011 | Reply

    Who’s antonio?

  18. By xvike on Jan 24, 2011 | Reply

    I like qb jake locker at pick #12.

  19. By Shawn on Jan 24, 2011 | Reply

    locker is the worst … they described him on the NFL netwrok as he can do everything except throw …. hes a qb lol

  20. By Shawn on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    Lockers stats … look at his game stats

    he had a game he was 4-20
    and in the bowl game he was 5-16

    those are his passing stats LOL ….. he sucks

  21. By Parody on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    I agree with you Shawn. Those stats, in NFL terms add up to a rating of 77.43. Pretty ugly, and when (IF) he gets to the NFL they’ll get even worse. I never understood why college had a different rating system than the NFL. Maybe they’re just trying to make the kids feel better about themselves?

  22. By Shawn on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    lol paarody probally , cant tell kids they lost untill high school and cant tell them they suck untill the pros

  23. By Parody on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    LOL Shawn – And you can’t fire them until they complain about the catering!

  24. By Parody on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    Looks like we’ve finalized the coaching staff with the Dolphin’s former RB coach James Saxon:

    By the looks of it, I’d say it’s the weakest replacement coach we’ve picked up this off-season. But that’s more of a compliment to the other acquisitions than a critique of Saxon. I’d give him an average rating for a coach; not great, but not horrible either.

    If the OL coach can get his guys together, (and I think he will) it will make any coach in charge of AP and TG look like a genius.

  25. By Dt28olb on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    Yes… Now they need to add Chad

  26. By Parody on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    This website makes Saxon look a lot better than the last:

    It seems that Dolphin fans blame their OLine and Offensive Coach and Head Coach for the dip in production more than anything else, with their QB taking up the rest of the bulk. It makes me really think that we got every last hole plugged up ten times better than it was this last year, coaching wise.

    Way to go Frazier.

  27. By Parody on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    @Dt28olb – Is that Chad Henne…Pennington…or were you just asking to re-sign Greenway?

  28. By xvike on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    Well everyone has a bad game every now and then. And sometimes they have a bad year. I just don’t think locker should be judged based off of two games or one season. Look what he did last year compared to this year. Its not that much different. Yeah his career accuracy is under 60 percent, but i think that over time, his accuracy could improve. But he is a mobile qb. He can run well with the ball, and he can throw the ball. It’s just can he put the ball in the right spot. I think with good coaching, he could become a good qb. And if the coaching staff frazier put together is as good as people say and think it is, i have no doubt in my mind they can develop this guy into a starting qb. This guy is like joe webb, but he has more experience throwing the ball and playing the qb position. He is less “raw”. And with the guys that we already have on offense, it should make it that much easier for him. We don’t really need anymore play making recievers. Just good solid reliable 3rd, 4th and 5th stringers. Then we can address the oline with the remaining picks and free agency. And i believe the secondary will be better next year. once griffen and cook are 100%, we should be fine. the only position i am worried about is ss.

  29. By Parody on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    xvike – I think you’re being too generous. In 4 years as a starter in college Locker only had 9 games above 60% while a whopping 31 games were not! Furthermore he only had 2 games that broke the 70% mark, with 5 games below the 40% mark and another 6 that are in the 40s.

    Locker is also big for running, averaging 11.35 rushing attempts per game. Compare that to his 15.475 completions per game and it proves that he is EXTREMELY raw, if he has the potential to improve.

    I’d rather keep developing Joe Webb than waste a 1st round pick on that huge developmental project!

  30. By Ricefield on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    Congrats Antione.

  31. By Shawn on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    id take joe webb over locker everyday … why take a risk on a qb that cant throw under 60% in college is horrendous and if you look his best games came against the WEAKEST COMPETITION

    the stronger the school the worse locker threw

  32. By Shawn on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    you cant have a qb that that may not even complete 10 pa’sses a game thats insane

  33. By Parody on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    Comparison of Webb and Locker’s college stats shows that they are very similar. Each one of them excels in certain areas, Locker gets more yards and TDs pergame, but more INTs per game and fewer yards per attempt as well, and fewer rushing YDS per game but more rushing TDs per game.

    Overall though, the most arguable statistic is the QB rating. Using the NFL’s rating system for the 40 games that Locker played, he gets a rating of 77.43, while with 34 games behind center, Joe Webb comes in at a rating of 84.11.

    I don’t know if Locker has shown potential for personality conflicts, but Webb has proven to me that he is not going to ever be an issue in that area. With all that in mind, Joe Webb definitely sounds like the better option.

  34. By Shawn on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    not looking good for stadium … read this

    not a single consideration for the 300 mil from the wilfs or saving 200 mil on a roof

    these politicians are f@#king it up …

  35. By Shawn on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    “We’re somewhat splintered here,” she said of legislators. “Our attention’s all over the place, so we need some help


  36. By Shawn on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply


    Using ta’xpayer money to help the Vikings build a new stadium, which continues to be op’po’sed in pub’lic opin’ion po’lls, is expe’cted to be a con’trov’ersial is’sue again this year at the Le’gislat’ure.

    HE’LLO …. WILFS 300 MILLION + 200 MILLION FOR NO ROOF !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Ros’en is b’lo’wi’ng it !!!!!!!!!

  37. By Shawn on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    WOW that was a tough post , YOU CANT SAY HE’LLO

  38. By Shawn on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    Rosen said the stadium proposal was still being developed, but stopped short of predicting that the Legislature would approve a public subsidies package for a new Vikings stadium this year. “I think last year I said 70 percent chance it’s going to get done,” she said, laughing. “I’m not a betting girl anymore.”


  39. By Shawn on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    The Wilfs have said it needs to be done this year …. which i take to mean if its not they will start make the arrangement to move

  40. By Parody on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    Come on Shawn, you should know that the word Hèllo has the word Hèll hidden inside of it! Just like Sophòmore has the word hómo hiddin inside of it, the word circümstance has the word cüm hidden inside of it and the word bälls has the word bälls hidden inside of it!

    How can we let evil words like that be read by our innocent children? Luckily this site has some genius programmers who make it impossible for any of us to find a loophole around the system to sneak the words in there uncensored…

  41. By Parody on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    @Shawn – Their lease is up at the end of the 2011 season, and there is no discernable reason for them to extend it. The stadium is far too old and unable to produce the kind of revenue that an NFL team should.

    The real question is why isn’t the state rushing to get this done? From the recent moves that our state has made, I was sure that after the roof collapsed they’d have a plan in motion by now! When the I-35W bridge went down they didn’t ONLY replace that bridge. In the last couple of years bridges all around the state have been inspected and replaced with fancy new designs!

    The only real difference is that the stadium was empty when it collapsed, so nobody got injured. And maybe that’s the problem, our government is too blind to do anything that its citizens demand unless they see injuries caused by their lack of effort!

  42. By LAVikes on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    So, how is that stadium thing workin’ out, people? Not so good, huh? c u n LA

  43. By Shawn on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    @Parody .. Thats what Im trying to say … I just use less words. Thats exactly the point the first thing these politicians is a 500 million dallar plan, THATS ALL THEY NEED!!!!!

    Instead they are are running out of time trying to get 1 billion … ITS NOT LOGICAL.

  44. By Shawn on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    and after they have the 500 million plan secure … then try to make a million dollar plan ….

    the way i see it this Rolen woman doesnt care about MN Vikings … shes worried about other stupid events that could be held anywhere

  45. By Shawn on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    I want to know how many Viking games this Rolen woman has been 2?

    If she doesnt attend at least 4 games a year WHY IS SHE HEADING THE NEW STADIUM PROPOSAL!!!!


  46. By Carl K on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    @xvike- You make a good case for Locker… but I don’t think he is worth the 12th pick. If he falls to the second round… I would take him with the #42 pick but I don’t think he falls that far… I like what we have with Webb and I think in the 4th round we can maybe get Andrew Dalton, Ricky Stanzi, Greg McElroy or Kellen Moore.

    I would draft a QB in round 2 or 4. Round 1- I would try to move back and pick up a 3rd round pick.
    The question is, what is our biggest need on the OL. Is it OT – G – or Center?

  47. By Carl K on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    I would go OT in round 1

  48. By Shawn on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    @CARL K …I agree OT or Center in round 1 … maybe trade back 5-7 spots to pick up a third … and if we cant get a 3rd , stay put and take OT or Center

    I think we are solid at guard. Hutch, Herrera, Degeare

    I also think Ryan Cook played better than the other 2 centers we have …. but hes a FA

  49. By Shawn on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    maybe we could draft a stadium proposal in the first round

  50. By Parody on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    Every mock draft I have looked at has us taking a QB in the first round, except one which had us take a DE. Until we get an idea for we are re-signing I’m going to assume that we are solid at that position and ignore that one mock draft.

    Cam Newton and Ryan Mallett appear to be the two most popular choices at QB for us. Both of them could very well be 1st round duds. So I’d prefer the idea of trading back in the draft and picking up an extra pick from it. Then we can get a guy like Solder (OT) later in the first round and fill in an extra need with that extra selection.

  51. By Parody on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    @ Shawn – I agree that center is a spot on the roster that could use an upgrade, but I haven’t heard of any guys in this year’s draft that are worth a first round selection. However, if we end up getting a QB in round 1 like all the “experts” expect, maybe we’ll find a man in round 2 that can step in and take over for Sullivan.

  52. By Shawn on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    I know the obvious choice for everyone is QB but I think at #12 Mallet and Newton will be gone and we’d be taking WAY too big of a risk … when there are so many solid QBs that will be available after round 2 … I think if we dont get a STADIUM IN ROUND 1 … we should go OT/C or Safety

    Joe Webb already has 1 year xp , so with Mallet and Newton gone we really need to wait for a Stanzi type, there is a guy from Delaware who scouts say the same stuff they said about Montana and Brady … they dont make the comparison but the scouting report is the same

  53. By Carl K on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    Stefen Wisniewski is a center that could be a good 2nd round pick. Other good 2nd round picks are: Bruce Carter OLB if we don’t resign Leber. QB Pat Devlin from Delaware (he has been compared to Joe Flacco). Aaron Williams is a great corner who could drop to round 2. Rahim Moore, Quinton Carter and Ahmad Black are a few S. Tyron Smith,Demarcus Love and Benjamin Ijalana are the OT that could be available in the second round also.

    The Vikings have many options this year in the second round.

  54. By vikings4life on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    Patrick Peterson first round please, guy is an amazing corner for being over 6 feet we would have 3 corners 6ft or taller and then bring ANTIONE TO SAFETY AND BRING HIM ON BLITZ’S ATLEAST 5 TIMES EVERY GAME BEST TACKLING CORNER IN THE LEAUGE THAT IS WHY HE NEEDS TO MOVE TO SAFETY AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME ON BLITZ’S OR HAVE THE FREEDOM THAT TROY PALAMALOU HAS IF we can get peterson at 12 then we must and if we cant we need Prince Amukamara also a CB Bottom line we need to upgrade secondary because we still have a great run D also GET CASEY MATHEWS OLB OREGON BROTHER OF CLAY MATHEWS

  55. By Carl K on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    I am hoping QB Blaine Gabbert or Ryan Mallett fall to us at #12…or maybe CB Patrick Peterson or Prince Amukamara fall to us… if those 4 guys are off the board then I am not sure what the Vikings will do. Maybe Locker.. Maybe trade back… Maybe Newton (although I like Vince Young better) … Maybe WR Julio Jones… or DE Robert Quinn or Ryan Kerrigan (Ray Edwards is a FA).

  56. By Arrow86 on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    Winfield definitely deserves the honor of the Pro Bowl. I hope we all appreciate what a remarkable career he has had playing for the Vikings and hopefully at least 2 or 3 more.

  57. By Arrow86 on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    Carl K. Your scouting report makes Mel Kuiper look like a goof. Keep the information coming, I like it! HA!

  58. By Arrow86 on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    Shawn: As for Jake Locker he’s had to will his team to win. The Huskies are building, but a couple of years ago they were winless. He could have made a boatload of cash coming out last season, but stuck around to gain more experience. He has decent mobility, and very similar in size to Ben Roethlisberger without the off field problems. He’s from a blue-collar background and is well known for his tremendous drive. He may not be a glamorous pick, but I for one wouldn’t have any problem with the VIkes drafting him.

  59. By Arrow86 on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    Carl K: What’s your draft day “War room” look like? Are you outmanuevering Jerry Jones?

  60. By Carl K on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    My war room is a nice lazy boy, a cold brew, and a big screen TV. I do love the NFL draft.

    A real NFL war room would be cool to see. Maybe Mike Wobschall can have a contest and give away a back stage p@ss to the Vikings war room.

  61. By Carl K on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    @vikings4life – I like Casey Mathews – probably a late round guy. I think the Vikings will be looking at all the OLB. (Ben Leber is a FA and Erin Henderson is a RFA). Oh and Chad Greenway is a free agent… but it is a no brainer we will resign him.
    With that said, I think Erin Henderson might be ready to challenge Ben Leber for the starting job. I know Ben is a FA .. and I think he wants to stay in Minnesota and I don’t think he will be asking for big money. (We could resign him) But Erin Henderson was a top 100 talent on all the draft boards but he went undrafted (I don’t know why)…. He has worked hard and does a good job on special teams and in preseason. I think the Vikings are ready to give Erin a good look next year.

    But I think Casey Mathews would be a great late round pick.

  62. By James on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    A qb in the first round is a must, o-line can be found later on the drafts, people can say first round qb’s can be a bust but most of the top qb’s out of college are drafted by horrid teams. That puts a huge amount of pressure on a qb. The vikings have all the weapons already so the rookie qb should be alright.

  63. By Shawn on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    @james … a qb in the first round is a must? what if 4 teams take a qb b4 us? should we still take a qb? I DONT THINK SO !!!! so far it looks like gabbert and mallet are the only 2 qualified for a top 15 pick …

  64. By James on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    There is always a good qb that slips down the boards somehow it happens a lot, I wouldn’t mind mallett I think the vikings are going to get him. If mallett is gone or gabbert I’d still hope they get a qb. They can still get a good qb at the 12th slot better than getting one later in the rounds. I hope they get a first round qb and maybe grab another qb later on.

  65. By Titus on Jan 25, 2011 | Reply

    I am confident the Vikings will do their homework and we will get the players we need– I don’t know as much as all of you football aficionados as far as the draft– I hear a lot of names for a QB in the draft, but do we really know who will blossom in four or five years? Someone that seems solid in skills and is a good student of the game but not exceptional so far could be the next Joe Montana. It takes a talent to draft and I think we have some real smart people in the Vikings’ organization. So, I can sleep.

  66. By Parody on Jan 26, 2011 | Reply

    How’s this for some interesting news:

    It seems that free agency isn’t completely locked up right now! Apparantly we are picking apart the CFL for players with this WR that just signed. Hopefully he is the plan to replace Berrian, because I would hate it if the team let Rice walk.

  67. By Parody on Jan 26, 2011 | Reply

    At the least, I believe this Canadian WR would be a huge upgrade to Lewis and Baskett, both of whom are FAs that I would be happy to see on another team.

  68. By Parody on Jan 26, 2011 | Reply

    Some more news on our Canada farming:

    It looks like Frazier understands that it will be a tough bid to keep Edwards on the roster at a reasonable price, but that he is still being very aggressive in putting together a good team even with the current restrictions on free agents. He seems to be finding quality talent at discount prices! I’m liking this new head coach with every article that I read!

  69. By Tim on Jan 26, 2011 | Reply

    winfield had a good season his numbers were pretty good next season the return of griffin should help our secondary problems we need a long turm QB and a offensive line we should keep our minds set on that a lot of the guys we got are still pretty good our Oline needs to be fixed mckinnie and possibly hutch need to go we need to get younger on the Oline and all this sloppy left overs at QB needs to come to a halt its time to draft a young QB thats gonna lead us to a superbowl title we also gotta fix the safety problems we got a lot of work ahead of us this offseason but i think frasier will do a good job and we should at least be a playoff contender next season

  70. By Tim on Jan 26, 2011 | Reply

    who does every body got winning superbowl 45.

  71. By Tim on Jan 26, 2011 | Reply

    i hope the pittsburgh steelers win but i think the packers will win it. there just really on fire

  72. By DRS on Jan 26, 2011 | Reply

    Every one, how old is the GB stadium and no one is saying it cannot make the money the NFL needs. No football team has ever made a go of it in LA, and never will. Shake and back baby, just ask the Rams.

  73. By DRS on Jan 26, 2011 | Reply

    Go Pittsburgh Steelers unless the NFL has the fix in like all of GB playoff wins. How is it the bears coach calls time out to put in the losing play? Makes me wonder.

  74. By DRS on Jan 26, 2011 | Reply

    One more thing, I am wondering why the Taxpayer should buy Millionaires there stadiums? Do you not pay too much tax now, why do you want to have MN Tax payers pay more? Why don’t you make a deal with the Vikings to take some of your paycheck to build their stadium? If the Cowboys owner can build his own stadium, why cannot the Vikings owners? When do we stop the gravy train for the pro-sports teams? If the team cannot be loyal to us fans, why should we be loyal to them? What city would feel safe in having a team that will move when they do not get their way?

  75. By DRS on Jan 26, 2011 | Reply

    Got to go, God bless one and all.

  76. By Parody on Jan 26, 2011 | Reply

    DRS – Do you think before you make your claims?

    The “OLD” Greenbay stadium has gone through renovations to keep it up to date with needs. Not to mention, it was built specifically for football.

    Taxpayers pay for the stadium because it will be owned by the state, NOT the millionaires. This means that many other events which can raise money will be held there. Tell me, do you whine every time that a new park, library or civic center is built? Those venues don’t have nearly the money generating power that a new stadium would for the state, but we the taxpayers are constantly paying for them.

    Your complaint about the Cowboys stadium is based on a lie. Here is some news about how the stadium was paid for: “To aid Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones in paying the construction costs of the new stadium, Arlington voters approved the increase of the city’s sales tax by 0.5 percent, the hotel occupancy tax by 2 percent, and car rental tax by 5 percent. The City of Arlington provided over $325 million (including interest) in bonds as funding.” You should do some research before creating complaints.

    In response to your question “If the team cannot be loyal to us fans, why should we be loyal to them?” I must ask you, why should a team be loyal to its fans if the fans don’t show they are loyal to the team? It’s a two-way street. Zygi is not asking us to pay for the whole stadium, he is putting in a large chunk of his personal fortune as well. The team has shown that they are loyal to the fans in numerous ways, the least of which shown this last year in putting forth as much effort as they could to get Favre back(a fan favorite whether you like it or not), and in bringing in Moss and firing Chilly, even though he was still going to make millions over the next 4-years due to a contract. That’s all evidence that the team owner wants to give the fans a winning franchise, when he could just cut back on costs and give us a team with weak players who are paid at the bottom of the salary cap.

    And by the way, every team will move if they cannot continue to generate a profit. That is why they call the NFL a business. It would be stupid to stay somewhere that is only costing you money. Tell me, if your home payments were $2,000 a month, but you only made enough to pay $1,500 of that would you stick around in your home or would you sell it and find an apartment that you could afford? It’s common sense.

  77. By DRS on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Parody, yes I know there will have to be taxpayer’s money. Your analogy about rent makes sense if you are the one paying the rent, but when someone other than yourself is, it is off base as I see it. The fans are the ones paying the rent and pay checks by their seasonal tickets. I do not live in Minnesota there for the Taxes there do not affect me one-way or another. I just think that it is time we as a nation get our values in place for once. 14+ trillion dollars in debt with no end in sight. You now want more debt piled on your head so that you can watch some over paid sports player play a game that anyone can play in their back yard. Oh maybe they can make some moves on a person, but dose that have more value than the person working the ER room saving your life someday? In the modern day way of thinking it dose, what a shame that you value millionaires, including players, over the real heroes in this land of ours. You say that lam-boo, field has been updated, so why not update the dome to keep up with the joneses as it where, now I believe that would be a mistake because I hate the dome when it was built and now. I wanted the old met up-dated but no, the team had to have their dome! Now I believe if the owners put in over half the money to build an open-air stadium or even a semi open-air stadium the fans would be willing to pay some extra tax. Have fun and God bless you all. BTW I live in NM.

  78. By DRS on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    BTW, all the things you say can be done if the stadium was owned by the state could be done if it was owned privately, and the state taxed the owner for the events.

  79. By DRS on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    And yes I do whine every time that a new park, library or civic center is built when the old one will do!

  80. By DRS on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    To much Taxes is a bad thing, do you not think?

  81. By Parody on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    DRS – Then you’re not the one who is actually paying the rent on your house, by the way that you describe that you see it. It is your company that is paying the rent, and they get their money from their customers, so your company’s customers are paying for your house. (Yes, I’m making a few assumptions here about you, but they should be true for most jobs).

    Further, the extra debt that a stadium would create is going to be paid off by the income that the stadium creates. How many other things that the government spends money on have that kind of potential? How much does it help the economy to triple their efforts on making sure that someone graduates High School who is destined to be a WalMart greeter for the rest of his life? What kind of income are prisoners generating for the country? How much money have we made by bullying the Middle-East into our style of government? How have any of the wars in the past half-century benefited America’s debt?

    Let’s try to think clearly and complain about the things that are truly hurting our economy.

  82. By Parody on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Of course “TOO much” taxes is a bad thing. But “too much” is a relative term. I don’t think we are at that level yet. But I also don’t think that the tax money that is currently being used is being used properly. Of course one position that I have always held is that anybody who has a hand in deciding the laws should be paid minnimum wage. They’re the ones who decide what it should be so they should know what it is like to live off of it. Also, they should not be in the job for the money. Politicians should have other things on their mind than their own personal wealth.

  83. By Parody on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    “BTW, all the things you say can be done if the stadium was owned by the state could be done if it was owned privately, and the state taxed the owner for the events.”

    That is not the case. If the stadium is owned by the state, then the state takes in the proceeds from the event AND the taxes held on it. Otherwise the state only takes in the taxes. Tell me what is better, 8.5% of all proceeds or 58.5%? Yes, 58.5% is an arbitrary number that I created under the assumption that the state would own half of the stadium.

    The point is that we are not giving the owner a stadium. We are giving the state a stadium. One whose primary reason for being built is to keep a football team in MN, but with the additional reason of adding tons of other events that can be held inside of it as well. Yes the stadium will help the owner create more money for himself, but it will also help the state create more money. That makes it a partnership, and one that Minnesota would be foolish to allow to walk away.

  84. By DRS on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Parody, who says I have a job? I am a disabled vet. I agree that there is a need for a new Stadium, that dome was a mistake to begin with. Yes, your boss gets his money so that he can give you money to pay your house off and any other thing you need, so you are right that the customers pay your check, so do you not think that it would be a good thing for you to treat them in a right? All I am saying is there are better things that the government can be paying for, like hospitals and such! Government is not a business; it is there to serve the needs of the people, such as maintaining the roads, keeping the peace, excreta, not building stadiums for sports venues! That being the case, and being that the government has strayed from their given purpose by building the stadiums in the past, I feel that a new stadium is needed but at a minimal cost the taxpayer.

  85. By DRS on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Why is it that words disappear from the blog? Oh well, have a good day and God bless.

  86. By Parody on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    DRS – Look at the bigger picture. From what I know, there is no team in professional sports that has funded its stadium without significant support from the government where it is located. You may not think that is the way that it should be, but that is the way that it is.

    If MN doesn’t help to build the stadium, I would bet my bottom dollar that another state/city will. I want the Vikings to remain where they belong, because somebody’s taxpayers will be helping them out within the next few years.

  87. By DRS on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    Parody, That may be the way it is but it dose not make it right, just because the government can take our money without earning it by way of taxes, dose not make it right, but as you say they have done it before and to keep the Vikings in MN once more the team will hold the tax payers up without having a gun once more. If they would have refurbish the old met with an retractable roof, I think we would not be having this conversation. I see your point but do not think it is right to keep expecting the Tax payers to pay for the stadiums. Why not get the money from them who go to the games and are the backers of the NFL. That is my point, But as usual the sports teams will get their way, like you have pointed out what city would let go that type of income. Have a great day, have to go, bye.

  88. By Parody on Jan 27, 2011 | Reply

    You’re villainizing the team when you should be villainizing professional sports as a whole. In all reasonability, since the popularity of one team supports the popularity and thus revenue of all the other teams, the way that it SHOULD be done is that each sport has a pool that every team throws funds into every year. When the league decides that a stadium is no longer adequate, they take from the pool to get a new stadium built. That idea is a pipedream though and is never likely to get any where near the support it would require to even be heard by the people in power.

    So back down to reality, the Vikings need a new stadium and they need it now. I’m all for raising taxes, building casinos and legalizing marijuana and prostitution if that is what it will take to get it done!


  89. By DRS on Jan 28, 2011 | Reply

    Parody, I am not makeing a villain of the team, I am making a villain of all sports and the Government for allowing this to continue. I agree with you that getting the Government and all sports to do the right thing now is a pipe dream. Yes let’s get the new stadium now. How about tearing down the dome and selling the land to pay for some of the new stadium? Have a great day. BTW I hope it will be a semi open air stadium.

  90. By huskermnnut on Jan 30, 2011 | Reply

    Way to go Antoine! I can continue to wear my favorite Vikings player jersey with honor! He deserves a spot at the Pro bowl (as does Greenway). I have always admired his work ethic and sound tackling skills especially for a man who is not ideal NFL size. Michael Vick and the Eagles found out what he can do when given the chance in a game plan. Now we need to address the O-line issues and find that special franchise QB to put us back among the NFL elite!

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