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Add Another Name To The QB Talker

Posted by Mike Wobschall on January 4, 2011 – 10:44 pm

How will the Vikings address the QB position? That question represents what will surely be the most popular offseason talker for the Vikings. Brett Favre is not expected to return and many figure that Tarvaris Jackson will try the free agent market, which will leave Joe Webb as the only QB on the roster with any sort of NFL experience.

Free agency, trades and the NFL draft are the methods Minnesota will consider to address the position. In terms of free agents, Bengals QB Carson Palmer and Seahawks QB Matt Hasselbeck are 2 veterans to think about. Reports emerged this week that Denver QB Kyle Orton could be available via trade and many continue to look at Redskins QB Donovan McNabb as a player who could become available. In addition to those names, draft-eligible QBs garnering mention include Andrew Luck, Ryan Mallet, Cam Newton, Blaine Gabbert and Jake Locker, among others.

As I was perusing the internet this evening, I came across an item that brought up another name to add to the conversation – Matt Leinart. Most of us are familiar with Leinart’s story. He was a highly-touted QB at the University of Southern California, where he won the Heisman Trophy and eventually became a 1st-round pick of the Arizona Cardinals. In Arizona, though, he flamed out and eventually the Cardinals parted ways with him.

Leinart landed on his feet with the Houston Texans for the 2010 season, where he served as a backup to starter Matt Schaub. With the 2010 season over, Leinart sounds as if he’s looking to move on elsewhere and perhaps compete for a starting job again.

“Personally, I think I really learned a lot, and I think it made me a better player,” Leinart told the Houston Chronicle. “Getting released (by Arizona in September) kind of opened my eyes, and I came here and had a wonderful experience. I don’t know what the future holds for me, but I think this year definitely got me better as a player.

“I want to be a starter in the league, and I feel like I’ve paid my dues. I sat for three and a half years now and played behind a Hall of Fame quarterback [Kurt Warner] which a lot of people don’t remember. Obviously, coming here is not the way I planned, but I think Matt Schaub is a great quarterback.”

I’m not endorsing Leinart as a choice for the Vikings, but I’m also not dismissing it. It’s just interesting to add another name to the conversation. What do you think, Vikings fans? Let us know in the comments section below.


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302 Responses to “Add Another Name To The QB Talker”

  1. By MJ on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    Mallett!

  2. By Joseph Malach on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    I think that Leinart will be especially good for the Vikings.. He’ll bring a Favre-esque stature of quarterbacking to the Vikings even as Favre is leaving and will have no problem filling in the role as a leader on the team. It’s a good quarterbacking decision and I really hope he makes it to the team

  3. By kelvin on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    love the thought of carsen palmer, kyle orton, or drafting a mallett…however i cant say i want another guy that has severely underachieved and seems to be very lazy..getting a veteran such as mcnabb or hasselback for a year or two and developing a draft pick is very appealing as well

  4. By Mike on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    Please refrain from mentioning Leinart and the Vikings together.

  5. By Arrow86 on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    I wouldn’t put Leinart in the same discussion with Favre. He had Kurt Warner to work with and learn from and couldn’t get it together. College career aside, his pro career has been mediocre at best. I think Luck and Mallett will each be great pro’s.

  6. By PAUL M. on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    I WOULD LIKE TO SEE “THE FACE OF OUR FUTURE” IN A TALENTED AND YOUNG QUARTERBACK — SOMEONE TO COMPETE WITH JOE (WHO I THINK MAY JUST BE THAT GUY TO LEAD IS INTO THE FUTURE, WHILE BEING A RESPECTED ANCHOR OF OUR OFFENSIVE HUDDLES FOR YEARS TO COME).

    I WOULD HAVE ALSO LIKED LONG TERM (AT LEAST 8 – 10 YEARS) OF COACHING STAFF STABILITY. BUT, AS I POSTED, I DON’T SEE THAT, AND I’LL WAIT ‘TILL ABOUT OUR 5th GAME NEXT SEASON TO FIND OUT.

  7. By Skol on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    Cam Newton. Another QB could be Kevin Kolb.

  8. By Leinart -- Just Say NO on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    Based on this Sugar Bowl, Ryan Mallett would be unfazed by WRs like Berrian or Troy Williamson…he’s accustomed to drops.

  9. By dustyboy61 on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    Michael Vick should be in the talks. i honestly think he’d be the BESt fit for our Offense. i’m not condoning his abuse to animals, but as far as his multi-talents he’d be perfect with our already dynamic running game. or stick with Webb. He’s young and has the same qualities i see in Vick’s approach to the field. Just Sayin’

  10. By John on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    I say no to Palmer and Orton, but Leinhart might not be a bad idea. Mallet or Locker in the draft would be good also, but I’d rather the Vikes go for McNabb and Haynesworth somehow.

  11. By Jceezyfosheezy on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    Give us Newto or give us death!

  12. By Better Run Through The Jungle on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    Do we really need encouragement to talk about the QB position?

    If the offensive line doesn’t get better, does it matter at all?

  13. By wispurplehead on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    Look….it doesn’t matter who you put behind the O-line, unless you fix the problem! I will say it one more time for the impaired. When it comes to the draft, the priority is the O-line and the secondary. The greatest QB and RB ran for their life this season. Average QB’s threw completions with the closest defender five or ten yards away! Leslie has his work cut out in the off season. Tampa ran with their rookie and did struggle, but reaped the benefits this year. Time for us to bite the bullet and not take a cast off(Leinart). Brett was a rare catch and did have the stuff to lead. Now if we can keep him on as a QB coach, great! Give Joe a season. His rating was higher than Josh’s in his first year. There’s no one that regularly posts on this blog that will post that our O-line did a good job this year, and that is what was “protecting” Joe!

    Let t-joke pack his bags and move in with chilly. If needed, grab a cheap back-up for Joe if he goes down. But if the O-line is fixed, that should not happen! For goodness sake, fix what’s really broke and then concentrate on the smaller issues!

  14. By Better Run Through The Jungle on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    WisPurple you are one of the few that mentions the offensive line needing improvement. Most people concentrate on the QB, WR, and maybe the d-backs.

    We do need d-backs badly, but there is youth in that group. You cannot say that about the O-line, which is getting old in some positions.

  15. By Johnny on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    Farve not coming back, Jacson is a joke and Joe Webb hasen’t proven anything yet. We need to draft a francise QB for the future. We had a chance A Colt MCCOY, Tim Tebow, Jimmy Clausen last year and we didn’t even pick these plkayers, by the way Tebow and MCCOY are going to be good pro’s I saw the way they have played and I believe hard work will beat talent anytime. Does Tom Brady, Drew Brees ring a bell. So man so call experts said the same things about these guys that they weren’t going to be that great but we all know how they both turn out to be. We should get Kevin Kolb or draft if we can Mallet or Luck. If you look at all great teams today they all have a francise QB and we don’t . If we want to get somewhere next year we need a francise QB to come in and help out right away. Webb and Jackson are not the future for this team. Let’s draft Ryan Mallet or Andrew Luck if we want to have a team that will compete every year. I wish we would of beat the saints last year and go to the Superbowl and win our first Superbowl for our fans. We do have the best fan here in MN, So if the Vikings are smart enough they will draft either Jack Locker, Ryan Mallt or Andrew Luck for the future. I know that these guys are going to be great at the NFL level. Minnesota Vikings if you want to please your fans and your building for the future you need to draft a young good quarterback and develope him for the future. It’s going to be intresting who we trade for and who we draft. I wish we should of draft Colt Mccoy or Tim Tebow last year. I know people say these guys cant play but these guys won at every level, and now they are proven to many people that they can take hits and they can play. Will see who Minnesota will pick, I just hope it’s someone that can come in and help. wheather it’s a rookie QB or not let’s just draft someone who will be willing to do anything to help the team win. Thanks for letingus leave our comments to you. God Bless.

  16. By wispurplehead on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    Oh johnny, your so patient of a person. Joe started 2 games and you wish to throw him under the bus. Good thing you were not around when Brett started..LOL!!

  17. By Viking-ology on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    wispurplehead is absolutely correct. The O-line needs some serious re-vamping…But we still need a QB as well. NO Cam Newton- I don’t care how good he is, his name spells trouble for whoever drafts him. Andrew Luck would be my first choice. I would also go after Orton he is level headed, and can play well, he had a great year and can bridge the gap for the rookie QB.

  18. By Johnny on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    Save the francise Minnesota Vikings please draft either Locker, Mallet, Or Luck we want to be able to compete every year for a championship, we don’t want to sit at home and watch other teams compete for it. If the Minnesota Vikings are smart enough they will do what ever it take to get one of these guys.

  19. By wispurplehead on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    Here’s a great idea that just came to me! Let’s use our number one draft choice on QB’s for the next three, maybe four years and let them try to do anything with our terrific protection. We’ll find that none are showing anything, cuz their running for their life. C’mon Vike fans, prove that you at least watch our club play!

  20. By B on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    get payton manning lol

  21. By Leights on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    I think Leinart has a lot of potential as a starter (and that’s coming from an OU fan), but I’d throw another name in the mix as well: Brady Quinn. Like Lienart, he’s struggled for that QB1 job and now he’s spent the last year under the tutelage of veteran, Kyle Orton. And you can’t deny his natural athleticism either. Webb has been impressive though…it’s just hard to tell at this point if he’ll end up being a great QB1 or not.

  22. By Leights on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    Also, I read awhile back that Vick could be an option next year…anyone hear anything else regarding that news?

  23. By Viking fan on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    I totally agree with wispurplehead. Fix the O line! Use our 1st round pick on a sure thing guard or tackle. Remember Randall McDaniel? First round pick, 10 plus years of all pro performance. QB’s in the draft are risky. Not many sure things. Not really a sure thing since Peyton Manning. and is doesn’t matter if the QB’s get knocked on their butt because of our aging line!

  24. By Better Run Through The Jungle on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    Nobody can be impressive with several 300 pounders in their face all game long. We will not, and should not, use all seven picks on offensive linemen.

    The Vikings greatest lineman, Ron Yary, was the first pick of the draft one year. He is in the Hall of Fame!

    At least one high pick should be for a O-Lineman.

  25. By wispurplehead on Jan 4, 2011 | Reply

    The two things that I would like to see change for next year……

    1. Construct an O-line that will allow our QB more than 2 seconds to throw a pass and can open up a hole for AP to at least clear the backfield before he gets hit.

    2. Give us our dominating “Defense” back! Get some secondary players that cover and tackle!

    It will not matter how many points we put up, if our secondary just turns around and gives them right back!

  26. By Frederick Jones on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I agree with Wispurplehead:

    And remember,

    I know everything! ! ! :) :) :) :) :)

  27. By GreatWhiteShark on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Stick with Webb. Get a solid journeyman vet for a backup and remember there are going to be mistakes and rough patches. O-lineprotection is the key problem on offense and secondary in def. Stop the talk about washed up people like McNabb and thugs/puppy killers like Vick and Newton. We want someone that will bring respect, not shame on our franchise.

  28. By MGR4FUN on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    if the vikes do not hock to farm to get andrew luck then michael pouncey c/g from florida would be the man to anchor the purple o-line of the future as i see adrian and toby and percy bein the rushin offense of the purple future

  29. By Frederick Jones on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    MGRFUN:

    Michael Pouncy, Florida

    Is he capable of pouncing on Urlacher, Lewis, and company?

  30. By Frederick Jones on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I know everything…I know everything…I know everything…

  31. By Titus on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Fredrick Jones I saw a post on one of the blogs with my username, but it was not me. It was right in the midst of your postings– about the counterfeit. One thing, MIke W– make this site professional— have people register and be able to use one username– once the username is taken, no one else can have it.

  32. By Titus on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    How do I even know this is really Fred Jones?

  33. By ship on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    our oline could use some support, but this team has too many stars to build a line from scratch. It takes more than a first round pick. Our secondary is good and getting better when they are healthy.

    We can NOT roll the dice on a guy like Leinhart or Quinn. There simply isn’t time. Don’t waste a draft pick on Orton, but grab him if we can give up Berrian and get Orton and a conditional pick. If not, sign Hasselback or Palmer and draft a good qb in the first round. Let the rookie sit a season under the proven vet and plan to win in two years.

    No way do we waste a pick on an oline. We have young players there already. Mckinney needs to worry more about football and less about his record company. Frazier will make that happen.

    QB in the first round. It the biggest no brained ever. My humble opinion.

  34. By Parody on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    If you think that we’re set at O-line then we are set at every position on the field! The o-line was the most horrid part of the team this year. It didn’t matter who was at QB, they all were trying to dodge defenders the second they got the ball in hand. Offensive linemen are generally the most likely to give you what you paid for when you draft them early. McKinnie WAS a good example of that, but then he lost his passion and his skills followed soon after. But if Frazier can help him get his act back together, then I think the position that needs to be fixed is at center. Sullivan seems too injury prone for the position on the field that needs to be leading these guys every single game. He would be a good backup, but I wouldn’t want to trust such a vital position to him as a starter any longer.

  35. By Parody on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Leinart and Quinn is really not rolling the dice, because they would be experienced players both competing for a job; so you know from their history what you’re getting. The biggest roll of the dice you can have is drafting a QB in the first round. I’d rather bring one of these free agents in to compete for the job with Webb. The competition would help to make whoever wins the job that much better.

  36. By viking/lakers Purple&gold on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    50 YEARS OF LOSING!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF IT SEAMS LIKE ALL TEAMS HAVE WON THE S.B. IS THEIR A JIXS OR WHAT!!!! OF SO ???????? WTF HOW DID START?? SOMEBODY TELL ME PLAESE!!!!! VIKING FAN SINCE 1968 S.CAL.

  37. By just4farve on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    wispurplehead has brought up several good points. Without a o-line the vikes are sunk. Unfornately the vikings have way to many other issues for them to even be considered a factor for next year or even any time soon. What a lot of you are failing to see is that there is a very good chance that there won’t even be a season next year. With that being said you can say so long to the vikings being in minnesota because they will end up being the LA Vikings. It will be just like the north stars. I hate to say it but I think the Vikings played there last game in Minnesota :(

  38. By vikefan555 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    No to Leinart!
    Kyle Orton did well in my opinion and didn’t deserve to get benched in Denver. He is actually the kind of QB we need, he doesn’t turn the ball over, thats all we need in a QB we have all the weapons on offense. WE DESPERATLY NEED HELP ON O-LINE Mainly CENTER OR Right Tackle.

  39. By just4farve on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    wispurplehead has brought up several good points. Without a o-line the vikes are sunk. Unfornately the vikings have way to many other issues for them to even be considered a factor for next year or even any time soon. What a lot of you are failing to see is that there is a very good chance that there won’t even be a season next year. With that being said you can say so long to the vikings being in minnesota because they will end up being the LA Vikings. It will be just like the north stars. I hate to say it but I think the Vikings played there last game in Minnesota

  40. By vikefan555 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    we should draft the other Pouncey Brother!!! He looked really good at Florida!

  41. By Q on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Something needs to happen. And by something, I mean anything but wasting a draft pick on Cam Newton.

  42. By Tom on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Skill positions are good to talk about but, like most of us realize, we NEED to address one of, if not, the worst offensive line in the NFL in my opinion. Birk was our only good linemen when he was here, he left and $&(t started to hit the fan. We have 2 revovling doors at the tackle positions, Hutch is gettin old, Herrera, same thing, and Sully just isn’t cutting it at center. I don’t know about getting Linert. McNabb or Hasselbeck wouldn’t be bad options for another year or 2 until Webb gets more comfortable. I believe Webb is our future, we just need a veteran for another couple years to mentor him.

  43. By krista on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    the Vikings are not a losing team… we have won several division titles & went to 4 superbowls… obviously I’d love for us to go every year but no team does… but we are one of the best franchises in the NFL… just be glad your not a lions fan.

  44. By krista on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    1. O line needs to be the primary concern, I’m glad a lot of you agree. It doesn’t matter who’s at QB if we still have this O line & WTF happened to our D?

    2. If we could get Michael Vick that would be awesome! But there’s no way Philly is letting him go anywhere!

  45. By animal26 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I’m starting to think we should just forget about quarterback in the draft and this entire off-season should be used for completely fixing our Offensive line problems, secondary, and look to getting some receivers. In 1-2 years is when we really should look at getting our a true future QB, no matter what in Darron Thomas. This dude will be a great QB, when he gets into the NFL.

  46. By macrae23 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Please lets get anyone except for Leinart!! It’s not the fact that he has performed poorly at nfl level so far that I have a problem with.
    It’s his attitude.
    He openly blames not being a starter on everything and everyone apart from himself. He doesn’t see a starting position as something that he should earn, he thinks he already deserves one. He doesn’t deserve anything based on what he has shown so far… but he thinks he has “paid his dues” and deserves a start just because he waited behind Warner for a while. We need a leader, Leinart is delusional

  47. By macrae23 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Also, why all the hating on Newton? Sure he has had a few dramas but from what the people who actually know him say he is a genuinely good person.
    This is a youtube clip about the kids he mentors.

    I’m glad that you guys are open minded enough to give Vick a second chance and want him to play for us… why not be open minded about this guy too? Seriously, watch the video it might change your mind.

  48. By jvernon on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    NO Matt Leinart. Get McNabb and draft Luck Newton or Mallet

  49. By Mike on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    McNabb or Newton

  50. By Malte on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I agree we need to help the O-line and secondary some, but 2 of our best Olinemen was also injured during the last couple of games, so it makes Joe Webb’s job even harder to “judge”.. – do we need to switch mckeannie? or herrea? (sorry for the wrong spelling of their names) – or do we need to get another right tackle instead of phil loadholt?

  51. By Rory on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Why am i the only one here that thinks we should get kevin kolb. He’s not going to be happy on the sidelines in philly and he definetly has the ability. I say trade for him if possible or as a plan b get kyle orton. OH AND FIX THAT O-LINE !!!

  52. By Bigfan1 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I don’t think we could get Newton or Luck in the draft, but Dalton (TCU), Moore (Boise St) or even Pryor from Ohio State, wow can this guy play. Mallet was not very impressive last night, the last throw for an interception looked too much like 2009 in NO. Of the veterans Palmer would be better than Leinart who mentally has not been able to excel in the NFL. Definitely stay away from old guys like Mcnabb, this is long term guys not a quick fix.

  53. By vikesfan10 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I agree give joe a season to prove himself. draft o line in first round unless jj watt is avaiable! this guy is a beast and would make our d back into domination. If we go o line draft pouncy or ol from wisconsin. If we do decide qb i think blaine gabbert would be best for vikes. i think we should also look at a stellar ss or fs early on maybe trade down in the first and pick up a 2nd or third and get a pick in the 20s

  54. By Carl K on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I think this is by far the best draft class of QBs I have ever seen. Up and down this draft there are guys that can and will be solid quality NFL QBs. If we draft a QB early – if Luck, Mallet, or Gabbert are still there in the first round at pick 12, I am ok pulling the trigger on one of them. I believe Locker will fall out of the first round. I like Webb over Newton. However, I am also confident we can find a guy in the later rounds like Stanzi, Dalton, Moore, Devlin, Kaepernick…and others.

    We also need to pick up a vet QB too. Yes, Mike Wobschall throw Matt Lienart in the mix.

    If Luck, Mallet, and Gabbert are off the board at the 12th pick, I wouldn’t reach for Locker, I think he falls to the second round. Why draft a guy like Cam Newton when we have Joe Webb? If the top QB are not there in round 1 – I say go with Julio Jones WR or Nate Solder OT. Then trade for Kyle Orton… and draft a late round QB.

  55. By Shane G on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    At least Leinart would see the DE running by McKinnie so he’d have a chance to get out of the way.

  56. By Aceviking on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I’m open to who we get… except Mcnabb or Palmer!!! They obviously didn’t lead their team this year, so what makes you think it will be any different next year. The Redskins benched Mcnabb, and the Bengals went 4-12 even though Palmer had MANY weapons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO MCNABB OR PALMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  57. By Carl K on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    The price on Palmer is probablly going to be too high… and the bengals have no other options at QB unless they draft a QB. Unless McNabb or Palmer get cut before the draft.. which won’t happen they are really not much of an option for us at this point.

  58. By AMo on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Just not Scam Newton!

    As a Georgia Dawg and Viking fan living in GA, I will have a supremely hard time rooting for the son of a preacher man.
    My vote is to Mallett, SEC all the way!

  59. By Shawn on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    MATT LEINART SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    MATT LEINART SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    MATT LEINART SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  60. By Shawn on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @Aceviking …. It takes more than a QB, Washington and Cincy were horrible teams … cant blame 1 guy for leading a horrible team

  61. By Carl K on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    With out a CBA, I don’t think the Vikings or any team will make much of a move trading or signing in the next two months. I think Webb and the draft are the top two options right now.

  62. By AP28 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I’m not a big fan of the free agent qb list probably the only one out of the bunch would be palmer besides that I would rather draft a rookie qb. I would have to say draft couple qb’s and couple oline. Bench loadholt qb and o-line is the way to go in the draft. We need to get back to the vertical offense like 98 forget the short stuff. I think they call it the run and gun offense that’s what we need to do.

  63. By Shawn on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Remember Wisenhunt cut Leinart because he felt the team wouldnt respond to Leinart … his teamates didnt like the guy.

  64. By Shawn on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Guys I could root for ….

    1.Luck
    2.Palmer
    3.Mcnabb
    4.Orton
    5.Webb
    6.Mallet
    7.Stanzi
    8.Kolb
    9.Bomar

    those names are not in a specific order ….

  65. By PurpleJediMaster on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Did anyone watch Gabbert play during the bowl game for Missouri. He has a cannon and poise. He would be a good fit. Kinda of reminds me of a Elway or even Cutler.

  66. By Shawn on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    wobs if your reading this …. tell coach to get TOM CABLE FOR OL COACH he could really woop our OL back into shape

  67. By Carl K on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    At USC Lienart had a ton of talent at every position that helped make him look better. A kid like Joe Webb had no talent around him at UAB and he had to make things happen and get teammates to rise up around him. I like Webb over most of the free agent options. Orton is not a free agent option but could be worth some sort of trade. A 2nd round pick?? I don’t think any team will bite on that right now. If the price on him comes down closer to the draft day, I would offer a 4th round pick… that was his original draft position.

  68. By Chaz on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    The one thing I would hope for would be that we will START FRESH! I don’t want any player that has had troubles else where come in thinking they can turn that around here. I would rather have Webb than leinert, mcnabb, kolb, simply becuase our young team to be can grow together. DRAFT A QB OR KEEP WEBB AS THE STARTER!!!!!

  69. By Vikingsfan on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Whatever they do don’t get orton after seeing him play for the bears for so many years I would never consider him even if he has a good stint with the broncos.

  70. By Vikingsfan on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    New offensive coordinator and o-line coach its time for a staff makeover.

  71. By Carl K on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @chaz I like what you say, but look what Kurt Warner came in and did for Arizona. Brad Johnson stepped in at Tampa and took them to the Superbowl. It can happen both ways. But I like Webb and I like this years QB draft and I think you are right we are in a good position to move forward with young talent.

  72. By James F on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Let’s not forget that McNabb led his team to 5 NFC Championship games and 1 Superbowl. A proven QB. Webb can learn from this guy. The rest have not had the successes of McNabb. Palmer,Orton,Kolb,Leinart are you kidding me. These guys haven’t done anything. Draft a young QB and wait a couple of years to win. Luck,Mallet,Newton,Stanzi we might have to wait a long time to see wins. Go get McNabb and Haynesworth!

  73. By Dennis on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Yeah…we need someone’s over the hill leftovers again. Joe Webb will do fine with a little experience. Remember the poise he showed in his first full game. I was impressed! Draft a young QB to develop along with Joe and sign an experienced free agent. Let them battle it out for the #1 spot and let the chips fall where they may. O line is the key! If you don’t protect the Quarterback or can’t open up the holes for Adrian and Toby, you may as well not even play the game!

  74. By Carl K on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    shawn – I would add gabbert to your list and Dalton and Moore

  75. By Shawn on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    and if all else fails …. TJack, thats right I dont hate the guy , he will be a 75+ rated QB, but again lets exhaust our options 1st

  76. By VikesfanNO on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    McNabb would be the best fit for a couple seasons to help mold Webb I mean you gotta give Joe Webb a chance you can’t discount him having only started two games it takes time and reps to get to elite status and Joe Webb deserves time. Bring in McNabb a proven veteran. Leave Lienart, Orton and Palmer alone. Don’t get swept in those hot names(Newton etc) in the first round. Find a way to get Mike Pouncey and build that offensive line up because a QB is as good as his O Line protects him. Part ways with Tarvaris Jackson. Keep Joe Webb. Build the team around him. Please get Michael Vick out our system that’s not a realistic option. Focus on what’s realistic. Leslie Frzier gotta take back over the defense we got a defensive minded coach which means get back to Vikings football ground and pound with AP and Gearhart in the backfield it don’t get any better lets get this right Skol VIkings!!!

  77. By SmileyStar on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    If we have Webb, whom we just drafted before this season, why exactly would we draft another QB and waste a pick?
    NOOB QBs in particular, take a while to develop, because they spend the majority of their time on the bench, have limited if any practice snaps with the starters. We should be shopping for a veteran backup to sit while Joe is our starter.
    Joe will be working with Brett Favre during the off season and I won’t be surprised if he is with Favre at the HS visits. If anybody caught it during Webb’s presser after the Lion’s Game, Favre is Webb’s mentor!
    We need to use our draft picks to fix our o-line and secondary.

  78. By Carl K on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @vikingsfan – with all do respect Orton was 10-5 as rookie with the Bears and had 9TD and 13INT. (Not bad for a 4th round rookie) He has only gotten better every year. He out played both Grossman and Brian Griese when the Bears were drafting high QBs. In the last three years he has a QB rating of over 84 and 59 TD to 33INT. I think Orton is at the peek of his career and may continue to get better.

  79. By matthew on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    i think that we should not get aour hopes up about luck , newton or mallet. we should go for tyrod taylor. i am very impressed with this kid he is great in the pocket and can make players miss outside the pocket . he really looks like the new micheal vick. trust me guys he looks like a great bargain. if we drafted tyrod. he would bring the best out of joe webb and joe would bring the best out of him. look at these stats
    andrew luck cam newton tyrod taylor
    CMP (263 ) (165) (188)
    ATT (372) (246) (315)
    YRDS (3338) (2589) (2743)
    CMP% (70.7) (67.7) (60.0)
    YPA (8.97) (10.52) (8.71)
    LNG (81) (94) (70)
    TD (32) (28) (24)
    INT (8) (6) (5)
    SACK (6) (21) (34)
    RAT (170.16) (188.16) (156.80)

    HE is also a very good runner. be realistic guys luck and newton will be gone within the first 3 picks and tyrod is like a hidden secret. vikings should really look at him

  80. By Gray on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I think Joe Webb should be brought up to speed. I think that with the right coaching he could be ready to play next next year. He doesn’t panic in the backfield and is a great athlete. Time after time the Vikings put a experienced QB in the backfield. By “experience”, I mean old. Webb seems to have the athletic ability to be our #1. I say give the kid a chance. By 2012 he will be rock solid.

  81. By VIKES21 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    LET’S LOOK BACK A WAYS TO THE EARL CAMPBELL LEAD HOUSTON OILERS. CAMPBELL A STRONG POWERFUL RUNNER (SOUND FAMILIAR), A GOOD O-LINE, A GOOD TEAM DEFENSE, AND DAN PASTORINI AT QB. NOW TO THE PRESENT. AP-GREAT, DEFENSE COULD BE SOUND IF NOT PLAYING FROM BEHIND(NEED DB’S), O-LINE-
    POOR, QB- PALMER, LEINART OR MCNABB-MANAGE THE GAME AND HAND THE BALL OFF TO AP, WITH A FEW SPRINKLED IN PASS PLAYS.
    THAT BEING SAID, LET’S GET THE O-LINE FIXED, GET A VETERN QB TO MANAGE THE GAME AND DRAFT A TRUE FUTURE QB THAT WOULD BE MENTORED ( KINDA LIKE FARVE WITH AARON RODGERS, LOOK HOW THAT TURNED OUT.). WHAT DO YOU THINK?

  82. By THIRDandSIX on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    The Times They Are A-Changin’
    by Bobby Dylan

  83. By THIRDandSIX on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Even Vince Lombardi couldn’t be Vince Lombardi in the NFL 2011.

  84. By THIRDandSIX on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Tom Landry couldn’t be Tom Landry in the NFL 2011.

  85. By APVikingfan on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    keep Joe Webb, draft a QB-Luck Mallett, Gabbert or Locker, & bring in a veteran QB & please fix the O-line with draft & free agency.

  86. By THIRDandSIX on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Even Bud Grant couldn’t be Bud Grant in 1986, his last year as the Vikings HC.

    Reasons:

    1. The building of the Metrodome (play started in 1982 for the Vikings).
    2. “Improvement” of the media, everything was under scrutiny.
    3. Modern player attitudes. Everything became “me” instead of “team”

    You could add more but those are the main ones.

  87. By THIRDandSIX on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    APViking…That’s all well and good.

    The #1 priority has to be the Offensive Line.

  88. By SmileyStar on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Vikes21 – Favre didn’t work with Aaron Rodgers at all, Would you train your replacement when you know that the org you worked was trying to strong arm you into retirement?

    The Ideal team would be just about equal in the pass and the run, running the ball when the opposing team is heavy on the pass defense and passing the ball when they have extra guys in the box trying to stop the run. It’s near impossible for a team to stop the run and the pass at the same time.

  89. By THIRDandSIX on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    To finish my point…

    Franklyn D. Roosevelt could not be FDR in the USA today.

    Why?

    The media.

    Could you see the insults he would take being a crippled President?
    They would have found out earlier, and would have crucified him!

  90. By DRS on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Get Fran Tarkington to unretired. LOL, linemen, linemen, linemen, then anyone who can hang on to the ball on both sides of the ball!

  91. By THIRDandSIX on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Republican or Democrat:

    It doesn’t matter to the press. You are going to be scutinized until you don’t recognize yourself.

    No one dared say the things they say about Kennedy, like they do Obama, the Bushes, or Clinton.

    The media (TV, internet, newspaper, twitter, radio, etc) is ruining our great country.

  92. By xvike on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Well there’s nothing wrong with bringing in Leinart. Everyone deserves a second chance. He’s still young and theres a chance that he may have improved. But i would much rather have kolb instead if the eagles decide to keep vick. But i do agree that the o-line is the number one priority. It just sucks that someone had to give away our much needed 3rd round draft pick….. But if we can, i would much rather pick up a franchise qb with our first pick, then use the rest of the picks and bring in some help through free agency to fill up the holes that we have at db and oline.

  93. By Better Run Through The Jungle on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Joe Webb for Quarterback!!!

  94. By vikings rx on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    There is no easy fix for the offensive line problem. Alot of teams have poor O-lines and want to improve that area.

    That is why it is so important that the Vikings concentrate on it.

  95. By snook on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    bring in mcnab kolb palmer and the vikings sill have a chance to go to the superbowl the window of opurtunity is running out.

  96. By BP Fan on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    The Vikings have many areas that need improvement. The d-back situation and the o-line are the most desperate situations. There are some youn dbs that could get healthy and improve.

    Therefore, the offensive line is the most important area in my opinion.

  97. By BP Fan on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Snook…why bring in another QB to get creamed?

  98. By BP Fan on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Vikings opponents were playing Cream Of Quarterback all season this year!

  99. By Viking1 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Brady Quinn

  100. By Better Run Through The Jungle on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    BP is right!

  101. By Viking1 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Well at least to fight with Webb for a shot. then Maybe pursue Palmer so we can address other areas in the draft…

  102. By packerfanfirst on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I’ll trade you Matt Flynn for AP and Harvin.

  103. By Better Run Through The Jungle on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @ Carl K.

    Orton was 10-5 as a rookie with 9 Tds and 13 interceptions w/Bears?

    Then why can’t the Vikings improve the O-Line and win with Joe Webb?

  104. By Viking1 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    There is something I like about Webb. I think he deserves his shot, but bye bye T Jack

  105. By Team First on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @Chaz —

    I agree with you if you mean starting training camp TOGETHER, and not having players miss practice so much. That killed us in 2010.

    It has to be about the TEAM! ! !

  106. By DRS on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Vikings needs!
    1st need linemen
    2nd need people who can hang on to the ball
    3rd need QB
    4th need better staff

  107. By THIRDandSIX on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Tarvaris Jackson can still be a great quarterback for the MN Vikings. Given a chance to stand behind a competent Offensive Line, he could whip the ball to a healthy Sidney Rice, or Percy Harvin and lead the Vikings to a championship.

  108. By THIRDandSIX on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    When AD is not able to run the ball well, throw it to him. He’ll score a touchdown for ya!

  109. By DRS on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    T-Jack is a joke. Webb is the answer!

  110. By DRS on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Webb is the answer in two or three years; Get a veteran for two years to mentor Joe, then stay with Joe for 4+ years.

  111. By JWebb Group on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @Viking1, I like Webb’s mobility. He reminds me of Tarkenton. Webb throws the short pass very well NOW.

  112. By JWebb Group on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    DRS, maybe you are a joke!!!

  113. By Carl K on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @the jungle. I agree I think we can win with any one at QB. I think we could draft Nate Solder OT in the first round. Move Mckinney to the other side.. move Loadholt inside to push Degeare and Herrea for a starting job. Maybe draft Penn state’s center in the second round. Go after Orton with our 4th round pick (we need to have 4 QBs in camp) so we need to do something at the QB position no matter how you look at it. Hope our corners are healthy pick up a late round safety and wr…sign our good players like Rice, Greenway, Longwell ,Leber, Edwards and boom we a got competion and talent ….an NFC North Title.

  114. By DRS on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Why would you say that. Oh that is right you did not see T-joke run in to AP! It must have been the o-line that did that to T-Joke! U More-rone.

  115. By DRS on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    My last post was for JWebb Group

  116. By Carl K on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    competition – sorry purdue guys can’t spell

  117. By DRS on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Above all we need linemen.

  118. By DRS on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Who would be a great linemen in this years draft?

  119. By LAVikes on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Wisconsin has excellent o-line prospects for the draft.

  120. By Viking1 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    JWebb Group
    I say plan for Webb but have some sttrong back-up options for him. It’s not just that speed and mobility that I liked, but the way he looked like he was so collected and relaxed. Tavaris alwys looked timid and unsure. That doesn’t offer much encouragement to those who need to trust him.

  121. By Carl K on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    at pick 12 we would have our choice of the#1 OT tackle…opinions very on who the best OT is but the first round guys are A. Castonzo, Nate Solder, Gabe Carimi, and Derek Sherrod.

  122. By Carl K on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Not reall good value at center or guard at pick 12.

  123. By LAVikes on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Carimi is very good on the left side. Dominant.

  124. By Carl K on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    even taking a tackle with the 12th pick could be reach. We could move back a little to get a good OL and try to pick up a 3rd round pick.

  125. By CaribooBill on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    We already have 4 youngish QB’s – TJack, Webb, Ramsey and Bomar. We don’t need another one that would be available at pick 12. I also don’t think we need a veteran to mentor these kids – they need to play and learn. It seems to me that recent experience (Sanchez, Bradford, Freeman, Tebow, etc.) by other teams and with Webb is that you can win with a young QB with proper coaching and game planning. However, we must strengthen the O-line to protect them.

  126. By LAVikes on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    A start as a rookie left tackle won’t be around in the third I don’t think.

  127. By Carl K on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Julio Jones WR at pick 12 is very interesting.

  128. By wispurplehead on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Well reading these later posts I see we have some real fans and of course… trolls. I had to chuckle when I read the one post that suggested we draft 2 QB’s. What so when one gets hurt, you have a spare?..LOL! I liked the post about getting J.J. Watt. He is a animal, but the only thing that worries me is being prone to injury. I continue to be puzzled when a poster will say something about drafting only QB, RB, and WR’s. When you read posts like that, you have to ask yourself if the poster even watches our club play?

    I thank a lot of you posters for bringing intelligent comments to the thread. I am sorry that I can not get on board with even drafting one QB. To me it would just be a waste of a pick. Joe finished with a 61% completion rate. Now you temper those numbers with the fact that many of those tosses were when he was running for his life…not bad! If AP could have gotten some descent holes, he could have really been a force.

    What do those situations have in common?…O-LINE! If that one area doesn’t get fixed, let’s all face it….it will be repeat of this season. If Brett could not overcome this terrible line, what chance do you expect any QB to have? If AP could not get through the holes…what chance does ANYBODY have?

    And please Vike fans…let us not forget the Bear game! Getting torched on long completions with Cutler throwing. I am not taking anything away from the Bears, but he is not a great long range QB! We need to stop the opponent from scoring, and increase the INT’s. Our D-Line did a good job again this year, as evidenced by holding the other team to 102 yards a game. That was not the problem! It was the third and long with the secondary giving up the yards over and over! We have to bolster that weakness!

    In conclusion, we have a limited number of “picks” and MUST use them wisely! If we don’t fix what we know is broke, then don’t sit and expect any other outcome then what we had to endure this year! If you don’t learn from your mistakes, you are doomed to repeat them……..SKOL!!

  129. By JWebb Group on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    DRS,

    I do not like it when people call a Viking names.

    Jackson still is young, and hasn’t had much of a chance to prove himself lately.
    The run in with Pete probably happened because Jackson did not get many reps with the first team.

    He was not prepared well for that game!

  130. By JWebb Group on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @Cariboo Bill

    We are of one mind when it comes to the Vikings Offensive Line.

    Sure there are other areas that need attention. BADLY in some cases.

    However it is possible to improve, for sure, in the offensive line if we attack it.

  131. By wispurplehead on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @DRS…..if the front office has their brains in high gear…the “mentor” for Joe is none other than Brett! Sign him on as a player/coach! There was a lot on evidence when Joe was playing that Brett was all over that role. Offer him the money and keep him here for at least next year(if there is one)!!!!! It will let Brett ween himself from the game, plus provide us with a backup if the need really arises.

    just thinking……

  132. By Shawn on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @wispurplehea ….with all due respect if you had your brain in high gear you wouldnt keep saying bring back brett

  133. By Viking1 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    We also will get Hutch back this year. DeGeare didn’t do too bad and should only get better. So is there an option better than Mckinne out there? Maybe he’d be a good RG. We also are going to have to come to grips with the loss of big Pat if that happens and maybe that will be another position to look at. Oh and that Secondary???

  134. By Shawn on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @viking1 … latroy guion is only 23, he will replace pwilliams just fine lets not waste time on DL

    QB / OT / SAFETY / WR …..IS WHAT WE NEED AND NOT JUST ONE WE NEED COMPETITION

    WE NEED A GOOD WR BECAUSE RICE AND HARVIN MISS GAMES AND WE SAY ALL YEAR HOW BAD WE WERE WITHOUT RICE

    BRING BACK MOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

  135. By lui on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    we need andrew luck we could use some of his luck on this team if we looking too win a super bowl i think he is the guy for our team

  136. By Derek on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    With the 12th pick in the draft, Luck will be gone unless the Vikes trade up, and draft him. I say give Webb all next year and then see where he is. If he sucks, get rid of him, if he’s pretty good keep him!

  137. By Viking1 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @Shawn
    I’ll give on Guion, but Moss???
    He wouldn’t have enough in it for him to try and he may try to moon the Bears and Lions. I loved to watch him in the Purple in the day, but I heard there is a pretty good Free agent from the Metro Area out there that I’d rather see.

    Yes Saftey is huge and we do need depth at QB but not in the Draft.
    Yes OT as well. but if McKinnie is able to get back to where he was that would be better.

    Maybe we could get Birk to come back instead of Moss?

  138. By wispurplehead on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    One thing that I have to ask of you fellow fans. Would you be into our club getting more balanced, almost to a more run based offense? Build us into a “slam you in the face” type offense. Now I am not saying anything bad about Tahi, but pick up a vet FB. If we had a “possible” threat with a FB, then AP may get a little heat off him! If a team is going to play us with 8 men in the box, why give them a single target to hunt?

    Reason why I ask, is with Joe taking the snaps….alter our priority to take the heat off him. Let him throw when it avails it to him or just for fun!

  139. By wispurplehead on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @shawn…so just who would you take as a QB coach that would be better than Brett?

    Engage brain….then type!

  140. By Viking1 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @wispurplehead I like the thought of Brett Talking in his ear, maybe Breakdancing and just helping the guys to stay calm when it gets tense.

  141. By wezo on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    as 4 me the problem is bevell and this west coast offense. A new system is needed here and that includes this out dated cover 2 that frazier mostly plays.Change our d-fense to an attacking style, instead of keep everything in front of U while we rush 4 lineman tha majority of the time.Another is our linebackers, their 2 deceptable 2 play action.teach them how 2 read play action.
    this years draft should be about the O-line and DB’s that can run cover and catch tha football 4 cryin out loud.last is getting another young hungry wr in tha draft which is loaded with decent nice size wr’s. Hopefully revamp some of these coaches like special teams coach, havin tha nerve 2 have camarillo return punts, now thats terrible.Not Camarillo, cause thats not his specialty but it is tha specialty of tha coaches 2 put tha right players in tha right position, something tha Vikes dont get.

  142. By Troutdaddy on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Realistically, we MUST draft a QB, Plus get a veteren QB, PLUS beef up our O’Line. Our corners need some changes too. Asher Allen needs to improve or go. It is amazing to see so many people trash Joe Webb. yeah, he needs some work, but is by far one of the most athletic QB’s we have seen since Michale Vick. We need to hold onto him and give him a chance to get his hands dirty.

  143. By Shawn on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @viking1

    I like Birk , dont think he is a free agent who is the WR you speak of?

    and I think we should draft a QB not neces’sarily in the 1st round hers my idea at QB

    McNabb / Webb / Bomar / drafted QB …. let the best man win

    and same with McKinnie he showed hes not 100% prof’fesional being f’at and slow this year so draft an OT and light a fire under McKinnie whos 31 and even if he trains har’d only has a 2-3 years left of solid play … he needs to start competing for it

  144. By wispurplehead on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @viking1….we can dare to dream, but I really don’t think that the Ravens would even consider it!!!!!!…LOL!!

  145. By Shawn on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @wispurplehead … you had said player / coach ….. I like the idea of him coaching but he wont do it for a few years AT LEAST

    I think McNabb is the best available mentor for Webb

  146. By Shawn on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @wispurplehead … you had said player / coach ….. I like the idea of him coaching but he wont do it for a few years AT LEAST

    I think McNabb is the best available mentor for Webb…

  147. By Viking1 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @Shawn

    I read a report that Fitzgerald could become a free agent this year and I think he could be a different kind of ball boy for us this time.

    Bomar could be interesting, but I don’t know about McNabb. Why did Phillly let him go and why doesn’t Washington like him. There has to be a reason.

    No I don’t think Birk is available, I just wish he was still around.
    Maybe Carson Palmer would be a better pick than McNabb

  148. By Shawn on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @viking1 …. I would accept Fitzgerald for Moss but I cant imagine Cardinals letting their best player go …. so as far as i can tell Moss is still the best free agent WR available and I think Frazier has the right personality to handle Moss

    Frazier LISTENS TO PLAYERS …. CHILLY DIDNT

  149. By Shawn on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I would accept Vincent Jackson for Moss as well but we cant spend franchise money on both Jackson and Rice …. we just need a #3 WR that can still fill in for #1 4-5 games a year when Rice has a hang nail or whatever keeps him from playing

  150. By Shawn on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @viking1 …

    I dont like anything about anything Ive heard from Washington Redskin team this year so I cant speak for Shannahan … maybe he lost his mind, maybe the skins wanted to evaluate Grossman because maybe they want a young QB,

    I bet McNabb has 2-3 solid years left in him, and has proven to be an outstanding positive influence on Kolb / Vick

  151. By wispurplehead on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @shawn…the reason that I say player/coach with Brett, is in the worst case he “could” play. The only thing to tempt him with would be that title. See you and I have different theories. I want Joe playing, not sitting. You want him sitting, not playing. It is OK to disagree, but I want us to take the hit and play Joe. It did work for Tampa as I said earlier. Play Joe and give him a support staff geared to his success!

  152. By Jake on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I’ve heard no mention of chris ponder out if FSU smart strong and accurate, and smart. seems like a solid option

  153. By DRS on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    JWebb Group, how long has T-Jack been with the Vikings? Do you not think he has had time to know what he is doing? Time for someone new I think. If you do not like the Viking personal be called names, tuff. When they play badly and people still want them, making excuses for them, it becomes a joke. I have heard worse name calling on this blog, so buck up and move on.

  154. By Shawn on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @wispurplehead … i didnt say I want him to sit, he has a whole offseason if hes as good as we hope he will beat out all competition and WIN the starting job … I just want to be prepared , in case he isnt ready

  155. By Shawn on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    the last thing i want is to be having this same conversation next year

  156. By for4nomore on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @wispurphead Brett Favre is a has-been. Let it go, you’ll be a better person if you do.

  157. By mr smiff on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I like the idea of Favre being a player/coach… but that won’t happen. You can tell in his presser after the Lions game that he had had enough, and he just wanted out. Smiley Star, Favre didn’t get along with Rodgers in his rookie year, but by his second year, the relationship improved, and Favre did help him. And what’s all this talk about keeping McKinnie? He’s the reason Favre’s final play was him being knocked out cold! MCKINNIE HAS TO GO!!!!!

  158. By mr smiff on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    for4nomore, go jump in a lake.

  159. By indianavikesfan on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    loadholt and mckinney were both terrible this year. Almost anyone would be
    an improvement. Start teaching the running backs to block a little bit! If the
    offensive line can’t block they need all the help they can get!

  160. By for4nomore on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @mrs miff Go get a team, no, I mean a real NFL team. All the stupid idiots that wanted Favre back should jump in a lake.

  161. By Colin on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Somebody that I would love to see come into this group is one that not many people are talking about, Kevin Kolb. He was supposed to be the next big thing in Philly until Vick blew everybody away this season. There is no chance of Philly letting a gem like Vick go, so instead we have to look at the person who beat him out in the offseason for the starting job, Kolb. I see a lot of similarities between Kolb and now Texans starter Matt Schaub, Schaub backed up Vick for a few years in Atlanta before breaking out as a solid starter in Houston, and that was with the help of a solid O-line and a star receiver, Andre Johnson. All that any mediocre QB needs to be successful is a star at WR (Sidney Rice) and a very solid O-line. I say pick up Kolb this offseason, and either bring in a coach that knows how to turn around the failing O-line that we have or spend a couple good draft picks on young, talented linemen. If we wanna be successful in years to come, this is what Frazier needs to be thinking about.

  162. By David on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    The first order of business should be to fix that under achieving offensive line. Bryant Mckinnie, Phil Loadholt and John John Sullivan did not look good for most of the season. What’s the use of having Farve or Adrian Peterson when we have no blocking. No matter who the quarterback is they can’t throw laying on their back. I for one would be happy with Kyle Orton or even Donovan McNabb. Both quarterbacks seem to do well when protected.

  163. By mistavista on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    If Matt Leinert is even CONSIDERED for a back up QB in Minnesota… I for 1 will be extremely disappointed. Leinart is TERRIBLE and has been given ample time to develop into a decent quarterback and hasn’t done it. His inability to win a starting role at a Cardinals club in which he was given every opportunity to hold on to is something to be taken seriously. I don’t know if he’s lazy or just can’t catch up to the speed of the NFL but he’s the next Chris Simms… Patrick Ramsay… Jamarcus Russell are 3 names that come to mind.

  164. By mistavista on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I’m in agreement with Colin… Kevin Kolb has great potential and is coming into his prime. He’s not gonna want to sit in Philidelphia and watch Micheal Vick light up scoreboards for too much longer. Now is the time to make a move for him. Then we could address possibly adding a rookie in the draft and letting him learn from Kolb for a couple years.

  165. By GMan on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Leinert Sucks…so does our offensive line.

  166. By for4nomore on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @GMan He’d fit right in!!!

  167. By indianavikesfan on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Let Berrian go and get some younger talent at w.r. Try to get the ball to Camarillo
    more! Keep Webb and experiment with the wildcat offense! With Webb,AP,and
    Harvin in the backfield plays would be sure to be exiting! Definetly use draft picks
    toshore up the offensive line, defensive secondary,and by ALL MEANS
    ADRESS THE COACHING ON OFFENSIVE LINE AND DEFENSIVE SECONDARY!

  168. By Carl K on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @Jake- I forgot to add Ponder my earlier list of good QB in this years draft. Ponder is smart, good arm, good leader. I think he gets drafted between round 2 and 4. We don’t have a 3rd round pick… but that would be a good spot to grab a guy like Ponder.

  169. By Alex on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Okay the Vikings will pursue a veteran QB that knows the game. I am pretty positive that they wont take Mallett in the Draft or a QB at that in the draft. I dont think they will get a Matt Leinart either. He is a chock artist that couldnt keep a job in Arizona of all places. I would go for a McNabb or Palmer as our QB next year. We also need to get off of Vick coming over to the Vikigs because the Eagles wont sign him he has already gotten a deal in Philly so he wont be coming over to the team so lets get off of that ship and hit reality. We will get a McNabb or Palmer will be our best bet. so we also need a Offensive Lineman and a Safety as well. Thats all that needs to be said on the matter. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO VIKINGS.

  170. By skiboy on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Let’s focus on getting a new stadium built & keeping the Vikings in Minnesota!!!

  171. By LAVikes on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Yea, and the new stadium will be in LA. c u n LA

  172. By mr smiff on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    The thing about Kolb is, he’s still young and still has a full career ahead of him. No way is Kolb going to agree to being a backup yet again on another team. If we get him, Webb will have to go back to being a #2 qb, which may or may not be a good thing. The same could be said for Orton. I for one think Webb is worth a shot, with a end-of-his-career veteran to provide guidance, AND possibly a solid top-draft rookie to provide healthy competition. As for Leinart, forget about it. Like TJack, he’s a failed project. Let’s move on.

  173. By indianavikesfan on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    We need an offensive line coach that can get these gorillas fired up and
    doing their job! IT WONT MATTER WHO PLAYS QB IF WE DONT GET THIS FIXED!

  174. By Colin on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @Mr Smiff…I’m saying Kolb should come in here and be our starter. He has the skills to jump in and learn the system fairly quickly. I don’t think that Joe Webb has what it takes to become a career NFL quarterback, the coaches weren’t even sure of it either having him be a backup receiver as well as quaterback. Webb came from a program (UAB) where he was a run first then think about the pass kind of quarterback. That stuff works well at the college level but does not work well at the NFL level, just take Vince Young for example. What the Vikes need is a QB who is disciplined in the pocket and has the ability to make the smart pass instead of the desperate one. For the past two seasons with having Favre here, all the Vikings have thought about is the NOW. I think it’s time for the team to start looking at the future. And that future is not Joe Webb.

  175. By CaribooBill on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Someone suggested Cable for Line Coach – that guy would scare anybody into performing!

  176. By Viking1 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Wonder what Tom Cable is doing?

  177. By Viking1 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    He knows how to push people around

  178. By indianavikesfan on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Mcnabb would be a good fit. He’s had agreat career and would be another
    good teacher for Webb! TheVikes have a habit of hiring older QBS and most
    have done well. Remember Cunningham? GO GET MCNABB

  179. By mr smiff on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @Colin,
    I see your point. And if I follow the logic of your post, your primary concern is getting a solid o-line to provide said pocket. If that is the case, I agree fully. Like I said before, getting Kolb may or may not be a good thing, but are we at least in agreeance about the o-line?

  180. By Viking1 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    We have had Moon, Cunningham, Farve, Didn’t McMan even show up for awhile? Anyway with all these veterans, still no superbowl win. lets try a new approach.

  181. By indianavikesfan on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Cable would be a great pick for O LINE coach, but if we could get Cowher to
    sign on we would have a back up head coach!

  182. By Viking1 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    To mabye mentor Frasier?

  183. By mr smiff on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I like Cable for o-line coach. I will like him even better if he gets rid of that lard@ss McKinnie!

  184. By Colin on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @Mr. Smiff…Yes, I would have to say the primary concern is not being able to create a pocket for whichever quarterback to throw in. Whichever way the team goes with this though, all emphasis has to be put on the future. You look at a team like Green Bay, year after year they consistently have one of the youngest teams in the NFL due to the reason that they are “building for the future.” Yet, you still see them in the playoffs on a consistent basis. Now, I hate the Packers as any good-minded Viking fan should, but one cannot deny their ability to always be looking forward. Frankly, the Vikes need to have more guys that they can put the franchise tag on. Take a listen management, I’m talking to you.

  185. By indianavikesfan on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I’m all for a new approach. Like fixing the OLine and D SECONDARY,exept for
    Winfield, that guys great! Whats his status with his contract?

  186. By indianavikesfan on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @VIKING 1
    You seem to have a Quick witt about you,so I’m sure you understand the
    Cowher thing was just a joke.

  187. By coolistheoptimist on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    First lets get to the O-line question, Troutdaddy said earlier we needed to beef-up our O-line. Beef is our problem. They are way to slow in reaction as well as footwork. We all agree we have the best running-back in the NFL. But he finished 6th. There are two reasons for this one is NOT ENOUGH CARRIES!! ( Nothing against Toby the rookie, but he will never be in the same conversation as Adrian.) Second reason is no lanes/holes for him to get through. We all know what happens once he is through the line of scrimmage. O-LINE get in shape or sit-the-bench!!!!! Next is the secondary issue, Release them “ALL” with the exception of Winfield. Not only do they not cover well, THEY CAN’T CATCH. How many interceptions were dropped this year??? Had to be close to a record. LB’s GOOD JOB… Last our quarterback, our leader. Leadership is something that is needed badly in the offensive huddle. Joe has the gifts physically but not the leadership we need. Neither Leinart, Palmer, Orton or Mcnabb are going in the direction we want to go. We are relatively young on offense, Lets go young on Quarterback. Mallett is my choice but I’ll be happy with Locker. Now once more: THE GOES-Berriman (easily replaced via free agency), The secondary (except Winfield), The O-line who are not in-shape, Last is T-Jack as well as anybody who can’t catch a football that is thrown “RIGHT TO THEM”. THE KEEPS: Front 4 (except big Pat, keep him if he will take a pay-cut) and their backups, LB’s, Winfield, All recievers except Berriman, QB’s, Webb as back-up(NO T-JACK) keep the kicking game the same. And Hey Coach Frazier How bout some fire in your voice…….

  188. By indianavikesfan on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    If our Vikes do move to LA, will they still be in the NFC NORTH?

  189. By LAVikes on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Vikings move to the NFC West and the Rams move to the NFC North

  190. By shava on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Get a good offensive line get Brett back and win the superbowl. thats it.

  191. By Louie on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Do not get Leinart. He throws more picks than Favre. Well thats a bit to far. I dont think anyway could of had a worse season than old Brett but i wouldn’t mind a bit of Carlson Palmer or Donovan Mcnabb. I think they give this team a chance of getting back on track and play like The real MINNESOTA VIKINGS!!

  192. By Viking1 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Yes indianavikingsfan I realize that was a joke. Actually so was the Cable thing. Cable may be ok at it but we don’t need anyone getting hurt at a team meeting.

    I really hope that Frasier does as well as I think he can. It will be interesting to see what they actually do for this QB situation. Kolb could be ok, but I like Webb. Fix the Line hope that Cook and Griffen can play better and get some Safteys.

  193. By Colin on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I don’t see the Vikings leaving for LA. Yes, there has been talk about it, but there has been talk all around the NFL about it with other teams as well. Right now I see the top possibilities of going there to be one of the three Cali teams. Wilf has been very smart in not saying anything about this matter other than that they are pushing hard to get a stadium bill passed. Dayton has already mentioned that he will be pushing very hard in order to get the bill passed. And one of the best things that could have happened for the Vikings is for the Metrodome roof to collapse. Now the new stadium bill will be pushed even harder. Thank you crazy Minnesota winters!!!

  194. By APVikingfan on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    This is interesting… http://sports.espn.go.com/nfldraft/columnist?id=1540370

  195. By K Orton on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I think the Broncos want to hire Jim Harbaugh and find a way to draft Andrew Luck at #1. That means the Broncos would have me Kyle Orton, Andrew Luck, Tim Tebow and Brady Quinn. How crazy is that? Someone get me out of this mess.

    As a rookie I won the NFC North title. My best days are ahead of me… I would be honored to win the NFC North title for the Vikings next year.

    Go Vikes

  196. By Viking1 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    APVikingsfan. that is why I don’t think we should try to get a QB in the Draft. Fix what needs fixing and give Webb a year.

  197. By K Orton on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Please let me stick it to the Bears

  198. By rodgers touches lil boys on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    we need to fix our o-line…that was our whole problem…that and that secondary of ours that lets back-up QBs carve them up…..I say wait til Lucas Del’Abate comes to the draft he will be a great QB!

  199. By K Orton on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I am at the top of my game right now. I would love to have the opportunity to team up with playmakers like Harvin, Rice, Peterson and Shiancoe. This would be a dream come true.

  200. By Adam on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I think that a good option would be either Kevin Kolb or Kyle Orton. But I still think we should seriously consider drafting a QB. Maybe even trying to move up in the draft to make sure we can get a good QB. We have many areas of need, but QB is by far our greatest need. Fix that and everything else will fall into place. Matt Hasselbeck and Carson Palmer are not worth even talking about….we don’t need another washed up QB. Kevin Kolb has showed promise and Kyle Orton has shown that he can get the job done with the right system and good enough talent around him. Andrew Luck would be the best option, but I don’t think we will get him. I don’t know much about the QB class in the draft this year, but we definitely need to look for a QB there.

  201. By oldschoolvikesfan on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    matt leinert just wanted to be a playboy i would rather keep t jack and thats not a compliment. I dont think it would be a good move to get Mcnabb either its time the vikes stop picking up all these old QBs and get a young QB to build our team around. Mallett and also locker. BUT i”D LIKE TO REALLY COMMENT on Bryant Mckinney he better pull his head out of his @ss and start earning his pay or get rid of him he”s to slow. to lazy.

  202. By K Orton on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I am a seasoned veteran with many good years ahead of me. Kolb is unproven… McNabb, Palmer, Hasselbeck, Lienart are good options but they are all on the down side of their careers.

    Frazier thinks the Vikings are not far off and can still win now. No need to waste a first round pick on a rookie QB who probably won’t pan out any way. I Am Your Man. GO Vikes

  203. By Randy on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    If cincinnati is stupid enough to get rid of palmer, we should take him. same for mcnabb. but im not sold on any other FA quarterback. i think we should keep webb around, but im not putting all my eggs in his basket, not yet. i think the idea of drafting a Quartback in the draft is marvelous, but this is the third or 4th year in a row that we should draft a quarterback and probably wont do it.

  204. By Rory on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    KEVIN KOLB is easily the best way forward for the vikes, he has all the skills and will provide WEBB with someone to learn from. Keep BOMAR as 3rd QB, fix the o line and draft some db’s and the vikes could be very dangerous next year.

  205. By oldschoolvikesfan on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    hey has anybody givin any thought to our 3rd QB Rhett Bomar had a good college career we signed him for 3 yrs. hopefully we see him at training camp all I want is a smart QB that studies and takes the game seriously example payton manning, brett farve,these two are not very agile they know defenses know where the pressure coming from. A smart Qb can make up for some weaknesses in the offensive line .

  206. By animal26 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Rory, I don’t think we could get Kolb. The only way we could get Kolb would be if he somehow became a free agent. I sure as heck wouldn’t want the vikings to waste more draft picks on an unproven QB. If he was a Free agent, then I would be all for getting Kolb and seeing what he’s got,

  207. By Randy on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    kolb is a career backup, along with bomar.

  208. By cate on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    OMG! Please NOT McNabb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will officially retire my 40 years of being a Vikings Fan!

  209. By animal26 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    whats wrong with McNabb Cate? he isn’t a bad choice, but he probably wont be coming to Minnesota anyway. All signs point to him ending up in Arizona.

  210. By Parody on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I’m with you animal – I don’t want the team to be tossing away more draft picks to trade for a QB with all the free agents that are in the market right now.

  211. By Shawn on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    c ya cate … McNabb is the best mentor for Webb / Bomar / drafted QB

  212. By Shawn on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    McNabb studies the game as much as anybody , he may not have the skills of a Favre, Manning, or Brady … but he makes up for some things with work ethic and team first mentality… he is a guy that wont make waves if coach thinks webb should take some snaps HE IS A TRU PROFESSIONAL

  213. By scott duvall on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    ziggy needs to go down on his hands and knees and beg brett to come back.even if its only to back up webb . and also apolagize for having the worst offensive line and head coach in the league!!!!

  214. By Mitch on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I think the vikings should pick up leinart and then draft someone like a Cam Newton, definately someone that is mobile because our offensive line unless drasticly improved can not hold up to a simple pocket passer such as a payton manning or carson palmer. They would be a sitting duck back there.

  215. By mike on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    mallet for sure

  216. By Parody on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Mallett’s a bust. He has good accuracy and a strong arm, but he waits too long in the pocket, collapses under pressure and makes too many mistakes when the play falls apart.

  217. By Major Mudworm on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    No more running first QBs. Look at the great QBs over the last 10 years. They are named Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. No Cam Newton, no Joe Webb. Joe Webb didn’t throw nine interceptions and all of a sudden he is the QB of the future. Give me a break! While you people think Webb is the answer you have Carolina getting Luck. We passed on Jay Cutler in the draft and went with Tarvaris Jackson and now we are looking up at the Bears in the division.

    If we aren’t getting luck or Mallett then we need to get Kolb ot Orton until we can find that elite QB. We can’t waste a greaat RB like Adrian Peterson. We don’t need Joe Webb running the ball fromt he QB position when we have a great RB like Adrian. Will you people ever learn after the Jackson fiasco?

  218. By Shawn on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I would rather have TJack than Leinart … I CANNOT ROOT FOR THE PRIMA DONNA LEINART ,

    I could still root for TJack if I had 2

  219. By John on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I think Kevin Kolb or Carson Palmer would be VERY intriguing prospects for the Vikings.

    Carson Palmer may just need a change of scenery to be an elite QB again. He didn’t show much this year, but can you imagine having to play with two divas like T.O. and C.O? (And both barking in your ear about getting them the ball).

    The Eagles seem to be content with Michael Vick (despite what they may say to try and bolster the trade value of Kolb). I would bet Kolb could probably be had for a 4th round pick and he has the skills to be a good starting QB NOW! A 4th round QB in the draft would take too long to develop for a team that is a QB away from winning it all.

  220. By Shawn on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @ Major Mudworm … Joe Webb didnt throw 9 INTS so what are you ranting about?

  221. By Natasha on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I personally don’t care as long as we have a quarterback that can lead us to the superbowl. I have been a vikings fan 10 years, and I don’t remember once where they went to the superbowl and won!! I would be so excited! Watching the vikings play and win makes my day. Whenever I am having a bad day, and they win, I am so happy, and forget why I was even sad in the first place. I love this team, win or lose. I just really really want them to go to the superbowl and win. So, I think they should get an awesome quarterback, keep peterson and harvin, keep greenway and rice. I realize Joe Webb had the best game of his career when he started at philadelphia and came up with an win, but I wouldn’t feel comfortable keeping him as quarterback on this team. I want there to be a quarterback who’s been in the NFL for a while.

  222. By marcus on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    vince young would be a perfect fit for the vikings and that will help peterson rushing yard too! vikes need to pull the trigger on this one! a no brainer….this might be a blessing for young and the vikes! go for it wilf!

  223. By VKing56 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    VY, VY, VY!!!!!!!
    This guy has a lot of talent and could still be a great QB. He just needs someone to help him get his S%^& right. Sounds like a great project for Frazier. I would take him over McNabb any day.

  224. By Shawn on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Vince Young has learned nothing he is what he is and thats a whiner. He is the most immature player in the league, Moss has never walked out and you all hate Moss, so besides being the most immature player he is the most unproffesional QB in the league.

    Vince Young sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  225. By Shawn on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I would rather have TJack over Vince Young … TJack has some intelligence

  226. By Shawn on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Vince Young and Jemarcus Russel need to go to Canada and prove they can be adults for about 5 years b4 coming to the Big Boy League

  227. By Pete from Philly on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Are you nuts , Lienart ! The Vikings need to get rid of there dead wood once and for all . If we are ever going to win a Super Bowl we need players that want to be here and will play hard sunday in and out . Forget the washed up players signing for money and nothing else .We all know the Vikes have there share . Draft , Draft , Draft … unless we get someone that wants a championship and has the heart to lead this team because the players believe in them . The window isn’t always there or the chemistry , so you have to seize the moment when you get it ” yes , brett we love you but your ego cost us a shot at the Super Bowl … Lets just hope we can get that chemistry back and finish the job this time … I am getting older and still haven”t lived to see a Vikings Championship … We haven’t even made a brides-maide lately … Lets make the most of this off-season and maybe these guys will see , just because you made the championship game last year doesn’t mean a thing the next season .

  228. By jeff on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    i would rather have Stevie wonder at quarter back than Matt Leinart… we are finally getting rid of one slouch, lets not replace him with another. if the guys was so bad he got cut by Arizona and was a back up in Houston… don’t u think we should set our sights a little higher?

  229. By Robins on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Forget Matt leinart! He didn’t learn a thing watching Kurt Warner. What a waste he was. Get Brett to stay and coach Joe Webb and try and get another quarterback in the draft to go against Webb. Brett has seen it all and can teach them a lot. Too bad we didn’t go for Tebow. Tebow throwing to Harvin like in college would have beem fascinating!

  230. By Scott on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Bring in Orton, playing for the Bronco’s he’s familiar with running from the defence. He’s a good well rounded quarterback with several years infront of him.

  231. By 0101 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Orton sucks you must want the vikings to suffer that big fat slug is good for nothing.

  232. By Mike on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Vince Young could be someone to think about

  233. By Adam5 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I think we should fix the O-line and get Quinn and let him and Webb go at it. We could pick up Quinn cheap and would have more money to work with the line. We all have to remember we have 17 players who are up on there contract, this could be a much different team.

  234. By animal26 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Vince young isn’t anything special. He is another Tarvaris Jackson, except in one department. Vince Young, unlike Tarvaris. Blames everyone for his mistakes, when he was the prime reason. If I had a choice between Tarvaris and Young. I would 100% chose Tarvaris. At the very least Tarvaris knows the offense and isn’t a total crybaby like Young is.

  235. By animal26 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    We have way bigger things to worry about. Offensive line, Secondary, getting depth at Wide Receiver, Finding a replacement for Pat Williams, and finding Ben Leber’s replacement. These are a few things off the top of my head that I believe we need to address.

  236. By jvikesof texas on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Has anybody thought of Vince Young?Vy and Ap same backfield Add harvin and Rice

  237. By animal26 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    before we start talking Quarterback.

  238. By Reece s. on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I know this is like impossible, but has anyone wondered if Favre should comeback the potential they have for next year. Think about it. The vikes could use all their picks on o linemen and defensive backs. If Favre really committed himself for one last time, great things could happen. We should all try to convince him to come back. Im just sayin.

  239. By Justin on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    @ Reece

    Serious question, do you want Favre killed out there?

  240. By Justin on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    On Leinart, he doesn’t look that impressive at all. If anything, he’s a big risk to take and I strongly suggest the Vikings look elsewhere.

  241. By vikefan555 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    The only thing I have a problem with in Palmer is that he never backs himself up. The great QB’s in the league do when their recievers try to rip them a new @$$. He needs to show some heart.

  242. By Ash on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I’m thinking get Carson Palmer in there for a 3 year stint and then this Joe Webb just might be the man in the next 2-3 years. Joe needs a good teacher though. Lets not feed him to the wolves right of the bat.

  243. By Les on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    No thanks. Seen enough of whiney in az

  244. By Ash on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Oh yeah, THANKS BRETT. I’m so glad I flew to Minny and saw you in action. When it’s all said and done, without a shadow of a doubt you are the greatest QB of my generation if not of all time. #4 forever.

  245. By Steve S. on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    As far as to the QB stituation…the top QB in the draft is Luck from Stanford, if he does enter the draft. Right now Carolina has the #1 pick, and it serves as a question if they will go for him, last year’s draft, the panthers took Notre Dame QB Clausson and also QB Pike from Oregon St. …If Carolina IS looking to Luck as the QB of the future, Maybe the Vikings would consider Clausson in trade. with little O=line in Carlina, that is why Clausson did not pan out too much (along with the WR smith hurt all season)

  246. By SoCalVike on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    USC quarterbacks suck in the NFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  247. By 4eversteve on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Leinart has the arm strength of a wet noodle, This spoon-fed so call quarterback would be a huge mistake for the Vikings to look at. There is enough on tape from when he was with the Cardinals as proof that he is not an NFL caliber quarterback.Clausson , maybe they will accept 5th or 6th round pick for him and I maybe wrong but didn’t Tony Pike play his college ball at Cincinnati Bearcats?

  248. By CaribooBill on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    NFL.com is reporting that the QB coach, the O-line coach and the O-line assistant coach have been let go.

  249. By animal26 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    hey, maybe the firing of the Offensive line coach will open up Tom cable of becoming out new O-line coach.

  250. By fan for 45+ years on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I find it easy to agree with most of the comments citing a need to improve the O line, the secondary, the wide outs, find a QB who can play now and give Webb some time to learn the position. I also agree that it will be difficult to re-sign some of our top free agents. So having said that, are we all prepared to wait a couple of years during the rebuilding? All those holes won’t be fixed in one off season. I say try to sign or trade for a proven QB ( pay a Kolb if he is available) and try to give him and AP some help on the O line. Otherwise draft the best athletes available. It’s going to take some time. Be patient.

  251. By animal26 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    our*

  252. By Matt on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Sign a free agent and draft a qb..

  253. By Arrow86 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    fan for 45+: I look at what Kansas City has done. THey’ve gotten a lot younger, faster, and more successful. Last year they took it on the chin. But in the long term, the Chiefs are in the hunt to slip into a Super Bowl in 2-3 more years. It is tough for a franchise to sell tickets and keep the fanbase supportive during those times of rebuilding, but playing umpteen wildcard games, or a playoff game or two isn’t the ultimate prize. I look forward to seeing Frazier’s Lombardi -party as he and the Wilf’s hoist the prize for all of us to see!

  254. By AB on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    How about Brady Quin

  255. By oklaviking on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    i think you have to start with oline these guys just aint getting no one off the ball their just isn’t any push up front .i say webb looked pretty dawn good agisnt philidelphia, along with the defence.iwould like to see oline man 1 round wr to help rice and harvin, dt a threat up the middle ,through the first 3 rounds.

  256. By Arrow86 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Reece: Frazier would have to make an urgent call back to Favre. Layout how they intend to correct the problems through the draft and free-agency. With an O-line, it’s not real glamorous, until you have the disaster we saw this year. Not only shore it up, but add better depth. Make sure Brett follows up with a workout routine. If I were Frazier I would say, “You can still go out the way we pictured it, with a Super Bowl, but we need you on board going forward by the end of March.” That being said, Favre took such a beating this year, I think he knows it is time, he can’t take another year like this.

  257. By Arrow86 on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    I am leaning toward a veteran QB because our division has some defenses in the Packers 3-4, the Bears with Peppers and multple blitzes, and something special is being developed in Detroit with Suh, VandenBosch and company. The variety of looks and disguises these teams can show, can make an inexperienced QB look awfully bad.

  258. By Reece s. on Jan 5, 2011 | Reply

    Arrow86 i agree with you. The only way Favre could comeback is if he really wanted to and thought he could stand another year. Also, the only way the vikes would take him back is if he truly committed to a full year of work. I think if he got himself in great physical shape he could probably handle the toll of the season better. I guess I’m probably just hoping cuz I’m a major Favre fan and new Viking fan, but who knows. By the way, I don’t like to see Brett get killed but that’s why he would really have to want to come back.

  259. By Rich on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    I think that Joe Webb is fine, he just needs to learn more

  260. By Javier V. on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    I would prefer Mallett, he is a great talent, has a great arm, but his lack of mobility makes him vulnerable, because our O-line sucks, but i think is time to select a FRANCHISE quarterback, and start rebuilding the team around team, i hate the fact we are picking up garbage from other teams (Favre, Mcnabb, Palmer, Leinart).

    Anyway, i like Mallett and Locker a lot, Newton seems to be the classic running quarterback who doesn’t work in this league, i would actually prefer, Locker or even Gabbert.

  261. By Shawn on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    locker was5-19 passing in his bowl game … HE SUCKS

  262. By Lance on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    Luck is an NFL ready QB but personally I like Newton.

  263. By mr smiff on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    Favre, Palmer and McNabb is garbage? Go back to watching Telemundo, Javier!

  264. By Anthony on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    Hire Josh Mcdaniels as offensive Coordinator! Draft the cornerback from Nebraska or Wide Receiver Aj Green or Blackmon to play opposite Rice so harvin can play slot. Sign Champ Bailey in free agency. Then get a Kevin Kolb or even Mcnabb. Leinart wouldn’t be a bad backup but never a starter, I would sign Vince young before Leinart.

  265. By Alex on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    i would like to see Champ Bailey come to Minnesota and be our new starter. Put wienfield in the slot. I think having Griffin back next season our pass defense will be better. I think we let Berrian go and get a new receiver in there. I would look at Jason Avant from Philadelphia. He has one of the best hands in the NFL right now. And also go get Moss back he was way mistreated by Chilly. if you were to have Moss, Harvin, Avant, and Rice on the same team at receiver would be awesome. Or lets go and get Palmer Chad Johnson, and go get T.O. from the Bengals. Lets go get a Safety in free agency that is good. Also address the O-Line problem as well. Go get Hayensworth to replace Pat Williams. I would also get a nether RB i dont think Garhart is going to cut it for us. O yea I vote for McNabb or Palmer to be are starter next season. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO VIKINGS.

  266. By grizz on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    I agree that the offensive line has been the biggest problem. That being said the current offensive line coach has had over 4 years to put together a good line and he didn’t have to start from scratch. I would take a long hard look at the o-line coach. He was given what was arguably the best gaurd in S H. B.M was a hi #1 PH was a #2 and AH was adaquate what has the o-line coach done with the pieces?

  267. By Carl K on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    @Anthony – I agree Josh McDaniels would be a major upgrade over Bevell as an offensive Coordinator. Then go get Kyle Orton and watch our offensive move up and down the field.

  268. By Carl K on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    Luck, Newton, Gabbert and Mallet will all be gone by the 12 th pick. We need to target the top OT with our first pick. In round 2, we can get the second or 3rd best center in Stepen Wisiniewski or Rodney Hudson. We could have the best OL in the NFL. Plus we would have good depth and competition. I think Denver will give Kyle Orton away for a 4th round pick just to get rid of his contract. We have 2 – 5th round picks to go after DB.

  269. By Carl K on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    We are built to win now!

  270. By TexasViking on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    I think Webb looked good, but some healthy competition would be good for him, and the team…especially if it is from a veteran player via free agency or trade. Luck is a long shot (if ANY shot), but Mallett and Newton are possibilities…both unproven, however. Just, for the love of God and everything that is holy, I pray we do NOT end up with the head case that is Vince Young…that would not go well in the near future, nor would it end well down the road.

  271. By FLK on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    I like the discussion on the QB situation. I would like them to bring in Brady Quinn and give him a chance to win the job. It’s apparent that the Broncos are sold on Teebow, so Quinn could be a great option.Bring him in and Leinert in and let them compete,

  272. By Carl K on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    I agree stay away from Vince Young. Webb has all the same tools and is a better leader… he just needs time to develop. the question is will Frazier want to develop him and take the hard knocks that come along with it like more games like the final Detroit game. You also will have alot of highlights with Webb like the Philly game. You can expect what we saw… highs and lows maybe 9-7, 8-8 with Webb. Not bad for a Young guy, But with a proven QB like Orton we can be 12-4 agian.

  273. By Torky125 on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    I say the Vikes should not go after Leinart. He already has proven he can’t do anything. I would stick with the young guys that we already have. Possibly keeping Ramsey has a fourth QB. Look at Brady he was a 7th round pick and look how good he is. And besides Web was drafted higher then Brady. I really think that Webb can get it done for us. I would even worry about a QB this year. If they do draft one and he is a bust it would even be worth the daft pick that we could use on a another position the we need.. Just give Webb control of the offense for the 2011 season and go from there. Webb is still learning the offense and he probably has learned a thing or two form Farve.

  274. By Carl K on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    If we get a guy like Orton we get the best of both worlds. We get a young proven QB in his prime…not some washed up has been. He is a humble kid who has had to compete for his job every year and he doesn’t cry about it. He will not have a problem competing/working with Webb. Webb’s is a freekish athlete… so this would give us a chance to work him in as a kick returner, WR and also give him some reps at QB…maybe down in the red zone where I think he is most valuable at this point.

  275. By VikeFan19 on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    I believe that is time for a young guy to come in. I do not think a veteran is a thing we need right now. I watched the sugar bowl and loved what i saw from Ryan Mallet i think he would be the best choice for the team. He’s big (nearly 6 foot 7) and hes got a cannon of an arm. He does need to work on his foot work but most young QB’s do. Leinart wouldn’t be bad its just that he is a bigger risk then just taking a rookie, he had a ton of talent in Arizona and he was passed over for Kurt Warner after not performing well enough. We could get him but i would not advise him. A more logical guy who i would like to see is Vince Young, he may have concerns about his personality but he does do one thing the vikings need and that’s win. He would have much better players here then he would anywhere else. We will see what happens i trust the vikings front office to make the right decision.

  276. By shard on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    i say stick with webb hes young hes pretty accurate he has a little to learn but you have to crawl b4 you walk n he can scramble n there is nothing more dangeous n the nfl then an accurate n mobile quaterback and like a few other people said its time to look for our future qb someone whos gonna b around for the next 8 to 10 years

  277. By Ronnie on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    Why would you even consider Carson Palmer, Kyle Orton or Matt Hasselbeck? If this organization is truly serious about a QB and winning they better be figuring out a way to may make a strong offer to Michael Vick or Donovan McNabb. We will be mediocre for several more years if we go any other route. It doesn’t take much to figure that out. If we wanna be the best then we need to go after the best. We can draft a QB for the future but we need to to get someone now. Anything else will be a waste of time and money not to mention more heartbreak for Vikings fans.We need to step it up a notch. As much as I despise the Dallas Cowboys I have to say this for them. They go after what they want. If we are gonna be a class organization we need to be aggressive in pursuing some of these players.

  278. By Troutdaddy on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    Ok, looking at all of the comments I thought I’d add another reality check:

    Vikings in LA? Really? Not gonna happen. I live in Utah and as much as that would bring em closer to me I can’t stand the thought and the people of Minnesota will not let the Vike’s go.

    Leinert should not be a Vike. Locker or Mallet could be a good fit, but we still need a Veteren QB.

    Our O-line in priority, our secondary is next.Offensive play calling was so predictable this year. Bevell better be job hunting… I feel it coming…

    Frazier is going to rock as a coach. He was groomed by the best so we should expect good things. One thing I always said about Childress- he was a no-emotion coach. I hope Frazier knows by now that he’s got to put on a game face and “Get into it” as the only thing CHilly did was chew his gum faster when he got upset.

    Here is to a new year. I bleed purple… Nuf said.

  279. By Adam on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    Ok…..if anybody thinks we should get Favre back….then you are an idiot!!!! 2009 was great, but that is the past. Favre needs to stay retired. He is done…..leave it be. And Moss???!!!!!????? Really? Have you people not learned yet? No washed up receivers or QBs. Get a young guy, draft or Free Agency!

  280. By RooKee913 on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    Replace Darrell Bevell with Mike Singletary and get a new offense. When it comes to QB, I think Webb (spiderman) can do a good job as long as he gets the protection he needs. Vikings need to build a team and not just bring in old players. Think long term, please.

  281. By Luis Plunkett on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    Vince Young was let go as well.
    Good QB has good feet and a good qb rating.
    Vince Young, Vince Young, Vince Young…!!!!

  282. By vikesfan311 on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    Donovan McNabb has never won a ring. The Minnesota Vikings have never won a ring. McNabb is extremely respected and would be great with this much talent around him. Have Joe Webb backup and if McNabb doesnt work out put him in. The draft needs to be o-linemen and secondary. Maybe a dynamic playmaker mixed in. And I threw up when I read Leinart’s name in here. If anyone has seen Leinart or Quinn throw a football and wants him here your not a Vikings fan.

  283. By Tim on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    The mentions of Vick and Manning are funny. Vick won’t leave when they gave him a 2nd chance and he’s got Jackson/Maclin(unless we overpay). Manning won’t give up his money and power even though a team that actually has alot of talent could still pay him alot and give him control. DRAFT MALLETT, put Webb ahead of him and MAYBE bring in McNabb for a year. Resign Sidney and go get V.Jack like they had in place, resign Greenway and Leber, let big Pat go unless he’ll play for minimum and focus on o-line and secondary. People do need to understand when they harp on the secondary, most of it is because they’re thrown on 2-3 times as much because nobody runs. Stats are gonna be bad no matter but they left alot of turnovers out there and shoulda done better.

  284. By Chris on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    All I can ask is that we do not get another “old” guy at QB… We improve our o-line, and draft, if he enters the draft, Greg McElroy.

  285. By jrdfletcher on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    I’d rather have Vince Young…which is saying alot.

  286. By lovefromminnesota on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    Keep Webb and pick up a guy like Lienart to back him up. Or take University of Minnesota’s Adam Weber or a low-class QB to back up Webb.

  287. By BigVikesfam on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    I believe Lienart is a joke, yeah college he was good but by picking him up we will put ourselves in the same position next year looking for another QB. Palmer will stay in Cinncinnati, as with Hasselback, that leaves McNabb again that will be another Favre situation getting our hopes up of going to the promise land, McNabb is old and busted. I feel drafting a QB would be the best thing building him up and having a francise QB one that will be there 8-10 years. We also could keep Tjack he has experience and salvage the year to come, I mean admitt it we will not be great.

  288. By DRS on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    BigVikesfam, getting a young QB will not get the Vikings a winning season in 2 to five years, it takes time to mature as a QB in the NFL, very few collage QB’s can play the year of their draft, I do not see any in the class of 2011 that can. We need proven talent now, and wins now.

  289. By DRS on Jan 6, 2011 | Reply

    We need linemen if there is going to be a up coming season.

  290. By Adam5 on Jan 7, 2011 | Reply

    I said it before I will say it again. Brady Quinn would fit and so dose Joe Webb we are a run first team. If we work on the line we will have time to develop a QB as we saw this year you can have one of the best QBs of all time and if he is getting killed he will make poor choices. The line needs work we can all agree on that. We can get Quinn cheap and if he or Joe dose not work out we can look to the draft next season when we would have a line to protect him. The reason I would not look at Orton or Palmer is you will pay a high price for a mediocre QB.

  291. By Curly on Jan 7, 2011 | Reply

    I would like to throw another name into this increasingly large hat, one who is none other than, of course, Matt Flynn. Not sure, but we could barter the likes of Bernard from Chicago and a 7th-round 2015 draft selection for the former collegiate star and current 2nd brass fiddler for the Green Bay Packers. I watched him practice last week, and I have no doubts in my mind whatsoever of his general throwing ability and casual, athletic demeanor.

  292. By WebbHaterHater on Jan 8, 2011 | Reply

    1st round pick would be better used on a lineman, either side of the ball. Fasier said he wants to dominate the lines and run the ball, so a first round QB would send a mixed message. Webb will be a great compliment to a running team, and he, peterson, and harvin would make this offence incredibly dynamic for a run first team. Think of the packages they can run together. Please, no more leinart or quinn comments, they are pure garbage.

  293. By jesse marlin on Jan 9, 2011 | Reply

    we dnt need mcnabb he is getting old and slow matt leinart has never done anything and never will cam newton wnt be around long enough in draft neither will mallet if he draft some1 get blaine gibbert from missouri or vince young carson palmer is terrible now after his shoulder surgery and hassleback is old to young is still in his 20’s and fast he would work or just get joe webb to work on his accuracy what we really need is an offensive line and safties and cornerbacks only guy we got back there is winfield

  294. By Purple Bleeder on Jan 9, 2011 | Reply

    Leinert couldn’t hurt. I think he’d be set for success with a runner like AP. Also his signing might help the Vikes where thew cap is concerned.

  295. By skolvike on Jan 9, 2011 | Reply

    I think Locker could be a good fit. OK, Luck is out of the question. Mallet has a slow delivery. Locker managed the game well in beating a good D in Nebraska with just running it. He’s a good scrambler. One year wonder with Newton is risky.
    Yes, I believe the OL needs help. Hey, Matt Light and Logan Mankins are free agents from the Pats. If McDaniel gets hired he worked with those guys. Plus, Champ Bailey from Denver is a FA and McDaniel coached him. I would get a QB like Locker in the 1st round to see if he could be a franchise QB like scrambler Tarkenton. Trade the 2nd rounder and get a veteran QB like Orton who McDaniel also coached or McNabb. Moss is a FA. Maybe we can grab him back for our loss at 3rd round. And maybe trade the 4th round or a future pick for Haynesworth. Haynesworth hates NT, which he was in Washington. When he was a nosetackle in Tennessee he wreaked havoc. Being back at DT next to Kevin Williams would be good for him with Jared Allen. This team needs to win now with young players like Rice, Harvin, and Peterson. Nami Asumagh from Oakland is also a FA. Maybe he, Champ Bailey, or Cromartie who are FA could help the secondary and Winfield. Maybe either Matt Light or Logan Mankins could help out the OL and Hutchinson. I want to see a splash and not sitting around like Childress did last year. Hey, the Bears made a splash with Peppers and Taylor. Look where they are. Singeltary could help the LB in Henderson, Greenway, Leber, Brinkley, Farwell, etc.

  296. By Jeff on Jan 10, 2011 | Reply

    Go after Peyton Manning…..

  297. By Kevin Kolb on Feb 3, 2011 | Reply

    I think they need to shore up some OL big time. I wouldn’t touch Mallet in the draft but Locker could be a good choice, Luck definitely won’t be there. But I really think for their O they need to look at getting Kevin Kolb in FA, he would be a great fit and then get some good young OL in the draft. No offense but McKinnie and Loadholt are horrible Pass Protecting Tackles! Getting some secondary help is also big for the Vikings, out of all these comments though I think it pretty well sums it up that there are a lot of gaps in Minnesota’s team that could use some help!

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