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Webb’s Impact, Now And Later

Posted by cjsiewert on December 29, 2010 – 1:24 pm

When faced with the task of guiding his team’s offense on the road against a team jockeying for playoff positioning, all after an extended 2-day postponement that forced the organization to call its Philadelphia hotel “home,” Vikings rookie QB Joe Webb stood up to the challenge with a cool, calm and collected performance and made a name for himself in doing so.

In his first-career NFL start, Webb completed 17 of 26 passes for 195 yards with 6 carries for 31 yards and a TD in a 24-14 upset victory over the NFC East-champion Philadelphia Eagles. Webb’s 9-yard rushing TD midway through the 3rd quarter exemplified his superior athletic abilities by evading 1 defender while rolling out to his right, shaking off 2 other defenders forcing them to run into each other and benefitting from a clear-out block from TE Jimmy Kleinsasser that opened up the right sideline for an untouched score.

Perhaps Webb’s most impressive stat of the night was that he committed zero turnovers. There were times where the rookie QB didn’t scan the field as well as a veteran QB would have – such as missing a wide open Adrian Peterson in the endzone early in the 3rd quarter that resulted in a 10-yard loss and a FG instead of a TD – but overall, he made sound decisions with the ball in his hands.

His composure was uncanny considering Webb was making his first-career NFL start, and that poise was at its best on a 3rd and 11 completion to WR Percy Harvin in the 4th quarter. On the play, Webb stood tall in the pocket and remained in control as it was collapsing around him by firing a 19-yard strike over the shoulder of Harvin for a 1sts down. The big gain set up Peterson’s 1-yard TD 2 plays later that delivered the final blow to the Eagles.

If Brett Favre is unable to start against the Detroit Lions next Sunday at Ford Field, Webb has proven with his Tuesday night performance that he has the abilities to guide a team as its starting QB. But in any case, Webb has recorded an impressive game that poses some important offseason decision-making for Vikings coaches and executives.

Do the Vikings want to build their franchise around Webb? Will his performance this season affect who will be selected in the 2011 NFL Draft?

As Mike pointed out in his Monday (Wednesday) Morning Mailbag, it’s tough to judge a player’s future potential when looking at a single performance, but the skill set is there for Webb and it will be interesting to see how the organization evaluates his performance and worth over the offseason.


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92 Responses to “Webb’s Impact, Now And Later”

  1. By SmileyStar on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Yes! and Yes! Joe is a sponge. Keep pouring the knowledge into him and lets see what happens. GO JOE!!

  2. By Gary of ClovisNM on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    10 (Tarkanton) plus 4 (Favre) equals 14 (Webb) !!!!!!

  3. By Meekay on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Forget Favre. There’s no point in playing him. He’s done. Let Webb start again against Detroit. He looks leaps and bounds better every time he plays. Give him another game and see if he can keep it up. We need to know who our QB is next year.

  4. By Frederick Jones on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    The Lions know what Joe Webb can do, and may throw a tough game plan at him. I think the young man will be adaptable to any defense. There may be some tricky moments, and the O-line will have to block better for both the run and pass.

    Offensive line is still our number one neeeeeed!!!!!

  5. By SmileyStar on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Meekay – The NFL determined that Sterger is a gold digger and liar, so Favre only has to pass his concussion test to play on Sunday. I kinda would like to see Favre out there for at least a wildcat play, since it is his last game. That’s the answer, we start Webb, and run a wild cat where Favre can throw Webb the ball. That would be awesome!!

  6. By Rye on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Joe Webb is just plain fun to watch. This kid has something special. I hope the Vikes play him on Sunday.

  7. By Frederick Jones on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Joe Webb is another Fran Tarkenton!

  8. By Carl K on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Webb all the way. We need to draft Nate Solder 6-8 310 OT from Colorado with our first round pick and move McKinnie to the RT and Loadholt to RG. Then draft Rahim Moore S from UCLA in the second round. Get our corners healthy and resign our good talent and we are set for next year.

  9. By Titus on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Frederick Jones, exactly what I said. Another Tarkenton.

  10. By vikes blogger on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    http://cole-wolvesvikingsblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/webb-takes-flight-on-tuesday-night.html, read about Webb’s big game and what this means for future of the Vikings

  11. By Titus on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    We will take the division back next year!
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  12. By Stoney on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Tarkenton didn’t have half the arm Webb has. Very impressive for a first NFL start against a good team, lets see how he looks vs lions, with another quality start I’d feel comfortable trying him as our QB. GO JOE!

  13. By Rogerthevikefan on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Man I said it before Joe is just plain AWESOME. Build around the kid. Get better protection and get a saftey who can Intercept it and take it to the house.

  14. By TC Huddle on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

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  15. By chuck d on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    I like Webb but they better draft a QB. We’re still down by two! Definitely need O-line help.

  16. By Ricefield on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    The game was awesome. Had our neighbors knocking on the walls in our hotel room because my wife and I were cheering and groaning so loud.

    Should have been a blow out with the defense missing easy inteceptions but all in all I was happy with the performance.

    GO VIKINGS!!!
    GO JOE!!!

  17. By vikeforlife on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Vikes will have to draft another QB or get one or two in free agency. If TJ moves elsewhere that is. There will be at least 3 QB’s in camp next year and the best one will start. I believe Joe has all the tools to be the guy. He has the composure, throws a nice pass and has that scrambling speed – which is great, but also makes for injuries. He needs more time to develop, but I think he is going to be a starter for us. Let’s hope he has Favre’s toughness and instincts.

  18. By William Shipley on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    There’s a saying: “Your strengths are your weaknesses”. This essentially means that the things that you’re good at, when carried to an excess, are your downfall. With Favre, this means his ability to thread the ball into small spots on improbably throws. Of course, some times this leads to interceptions.

    With Webb, his ability to make things happen by running, if carried to excess will yield turnovers and injuries. When things go wrong, desperatly running around trying to save the day can be just as bad as trying a risky pass.

    Of course, it’s sure fun to watch.

  19. By animal26 on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    I guess I owe Joe Webb an apology here. He is still rough around the edges, but he played very well against the eagles and showed some promise. I now agree with Frederick Jones, that the offensive line should be the vikings number one priority in free agency and the draft. heck, I’m starting to believe we don’t need to go out and look for a starting free safety anymore. Standford I believe can become a very good Free safety in the league. I still think we should bring in McNabb or draft a QB in this next draft and have them compete for the starting job. having 2 aces is always better then 1.

  20. By PhillyFilly on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Congratulations to every Viking player on a great win over the sorry Eagles and the ex-con.

    Glad that you were the team to kick their butts.

    Live outside of Philly, but no fan of the Eagles and never will be with the ex-con Vick playing for them.

  21. By Carl Brodin on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    I like what i saw from Webb but i still think we will need to draft another quarterback in the first round Second round draft a left tackle and put Loadholt at right guard and Patrick Brown at right tackle. Try to get a 3rd round pick for Mckinnie because i guess he had some good games. The third round pick a safety that can intercept the ball. I also would like to Erin Henderson put into Lolb because Leber will not be back next year. We need to hope that Griffin and Cook come back from injuries. We need to rid of Bernard Berian for the money we paid him he just has not produced. We can use the cap space besides we have four good recievers.

  22. By Bigfan1 on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Don’t even think about it, sign Joe Webb as QB for the Vikings, this guy is good, as a rookie he had a better game than a veteran QB that is up for MVP.

  23. By j. maye on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Joe Webb is extremely talented. that was impressive for a first game against a possible Super Bowl entry.If I read another comment that we need to draft a quarterback I will throw up. As stated earlier the VIKES need to build it around him

  24. By bucfan99 on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Webb played pretty well last night against a Philly team that didn’t show up. I still think he’s not an NFL QB, but possibly a good RB or receiver, because he showed lousy judgment often in trying to run for it and risking career-ending injury. His throws weren’t that great, either, except for the one to Percy. I say get Brett back for at least one more game and check out Bomar’s potential to be the next franchise QB.

    Rhett Bomar could easily become another Favre, given the opportunity.

  25. By Aceviking on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    bucfan99- I don’t know what game you were watching. Webb played great for someone who has barely ever played in the NFL. Yeah he took some hard hits, but it just shows how tough he is. Did you see how quickly he got up after those?? The only other the QB the VIkes need is a solid player to BACK UP Webb!!

  26. By Meekay on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    @SmileyStar

    I couldn’t care less about the Sterger issue, which is why I didn’t mention it. It’s got nothing to do with the Vikings or the game.

    I also don’t care if Favre is healthy or not. He is not the future for this team. I can’t see him trying again next season, especially after the punishment he took this season. If Webb can be a starter (and I think he can), we need to know as soon as possible. TJ is still an adequate backup. That would allow us to focus on our bigger issues in the Secondary and shore up the O-Line.

  27. By lisa on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Webb needs to be QB. Think about it, he was inactive for the first few games. Brett Favre took a lot of the first team reps and if he was resting his beat up body then T-jack was taking the reps. Webb didn’t start taking reps until a few week ago when Favre was questionable. Then he comes out here and plays like this after just a taste of first string experience. Can you imagine what he will be like when he has more experience? This wasn’t just any team he led his team to victory. His first career start and he’s up for rookie of the week.

  28. By Titus on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Favre is coming back. Not sure if he will be second QB and mentor to Webb, but he is coming back.

  29. By Ricefield on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Where”d you hear that, Titus?

  30. By John on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    I loved Joe Webb from that pre-season game. I don’t want to over hype a guy but i liked what i saw. What a diff a year makes; the Vikes game is an upset and last yr it would have been expected. Were still a talented team – we need some parts – OL and DB but hey thats why its a sport. Don’t give up on this team …….go vikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  31. By animal26 on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    yeah, I would like to know where you heard that from Titus. That would be cool if he came back, but I doubt that it will happen.

  32. By Luke on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    webb is the future of the vikings QBs he is young has great pocket presence and can run when you need him to he should be the starter for 2011 and a long time after that

  33. By wispurplehead on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Will somebody please explain why you can’t post? I have a one written but this site will not let it post! There is no swearing, no nothing but the talk of our game.

    Explain…please!

  34. By Ricefield on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    animal26,

    I hope he does retire. Not that I don’t enjoy watching him play, he showed a lot of age this season (thanks to the oline but that’s beside the point).

    He’s pretty banged up and I think he won’t be ready by the time the season starts next year.

    It’s been great but his string was broke setting the record. There’s no more records to play for. There is little reason to come back add to that if we replace the oline it makes showing up for training camp and I don’t think he’ll do it even if he’s healthy.

  35. By Ricefield on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    wispurplehead,

    This board censors words like Chr1stmas. There’s probably a word that the board thinks is racy even though its not.

  36. By Ricefield on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Edit:

    …training camp a necessity and I don’t think…

  37. By wispurplehead on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    The answer for this weekend was given by Leslie last night. If Brett can go he will. If the Lions hurt him, Joe is now ready to step in. For next year, we convince Brett to take a “player/QB coach” position. Joe is willing to listen to what Brett offers in advise. Trade TJ for a bag of used football products and a possible secondary man. Bottom line is after last night, it became apparent that we have a QB and not a WR. Let Joe come up and play to his ability. Don’t expect miracles and don’t be surprised with a stumble along the way. Fans are showing a real liking for this guy. Leslie stays…Brett coaches…Joe learns…a positive season is ready to unfold!! SKOL!!

    P.S. do pick up some secondary help! Walker looked good, Winfield stays.

  38. By wispurplehead on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Thanks “Rice”…it was “ba11s” as part of foot….WOW!

  39. By harley on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Favre has nothing left to prove. He has 20 years of being a champion. Move to the side and let someone else take over.If you care about your team that would be the best thing for them.

  40. By wispurplehead on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    harley, did you see how excited Brett was last night with Joe?? He can live and play through Joe! What better position for Brett and he could ween himself from football. There is no chance he can just walk away….LOL!!

  41. By mossforlife on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    The difference in this game vs. the rest is the team knew BF was not going to play. Many just dont get it. Travaris Jackson or Joe Webb would have better results than BF, but between the Media and BF Fans they bought into …he gives us the best chance to win until the season was lost. This team had to suffer 13 weeks of Madness. And before you go through madness with the QB issue who should start or should be cut, you need to worry about is Rice coming back. The Organization’s approach of not signing him to a new contract and throwing additonal 3 mil to BF may cost the Vikes a top notch receiver. And the Owner is going to have to pay him more than Berrian. If the Vikings lose Rice and TJ, forget about next year also. I also hope that BF can look into the mirror & retire. And ask his self Why did these guys not play like that for me? Answer: I was all about you from Owner to Fan Base. Then everybody gets mad at Fran for telling the Truth. You wanted him so they served him on a silver platter. This team even fool you into believing that it needed to be totally rebuilt.

  42. By 4eversteve on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Sometimes the fans know best , after getting a glimpse of Joe Webb in the preseason we were yelling and pleading with the Viking coaching staff to use this young talent in some capacity whether it be at receiver, special teams or even quarterback. I guess it was a blessing in disguise because we no longer have too deal with Childress ,so much for not having an open mind Brad. Having a hard time shedding a tear for you with all the money you are stealing from the Wilf’s and pretty sure Leslie Frazier is not so happy with you either after the debacle of your contract the Wilf’s will be more reluctant to show Frazier that kind of money!

  43. By wispurplehead on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Good grief “moss”..are you really young or just unable to put thoughts into coherent sentences. It is a good practice to not post while you have been drinking!

  44. By wispurplehead on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Let’s face it “steve”, if chilly were still here…t-joke would be in and Joe would have to be traded! We should still have Sage here and TJ should be at home(wait, that is where he is)….but you get my drift…LOL

  45. By Robins on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Joe Webb was very impressive! He was better then Vick! What a nice surprise! What a great game! It is always fun to win! Where was our team all year? Now that the season is over they want to play hard. Better late then never. Next year, Frazier, Webb, Peterson, Harvin, Rice, play hard and win all year!

  46. By gdfghsdfg on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    You guys are dumb.If the Vikings have a chance to get a Ryan mallet in the draft and pass on it im going to be so mad!!!!! LET HIM AND WEBB COMPETE FOR THE JOB NEXT YEAR…We need a good pocket passer. Scramblers are so inconsistent. We have a team that plays good defence and runs the ball well.We need a QB that stands in the pocket and doesn’t turn the ball over!!!!!

  47. By George on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Told you Joe Webb just has that certain something, he just needs experience!

    Can’t they just remove the Dome Cover so we can have an outdoor stadium? If the Patriots can do it, so can the Vikings! It will make our Vikings an even better and tougher team to play outsides! Otherwise, they should just remove the “Snow Option” from video games!

  48. By Robins on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    gdfghsdfg….you are right. We need another quarterback to fight for the job. The way they are getting hurt now, it is necessary to have two or three good ones. Keep Webb, trade Jackson, and get another good one, hopefully a great one.

  49. By wispurplehead on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    ok dude…we all must have missed the “ball being turned over”….and in case you have missed a few games, which I am guessing. We have just a few problems in our secondary and O-line! We will only have a few draft picks and have to use them wisely. The way Joe looks, the aim may just be able to be re-focused!!

  50. By paul on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Bret Favre’s coming back in 2011 GOvikes………………..

  51. By SmileyStar on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    titus – Are you making another prediction?

  52. By SmileyStar on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    I’m cool with Favre coming back next year as long as he shuts the haters up and comes to training camp.

  53. By Ricefield on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    I’m really in Favre’s corner but I don’t know if I want him as a QB Coach. Favre has always been a gunslinger with his own style and though I think that style works for Favre I don’t see it working for another QB.

    I know he has a lot of experience and knowledge of the game to pass on and as long as he’s teaching things like clock management and other nuances of the game I’m fine, though. So I would be okay with him as long as he doesn’t pass along his style of reckless risk taking.

  54. By fmfan on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Favre- training camp- hahahahaha

  55. By 4eversteve on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    You have too like the tremendous poise and composure shown by Joe Webb against the Eagles and I for one can’t wait for his next start too see if he is able to string back to back quality starts together and lead this team in the future. Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying he is the savior, but he took one heck of a step forward in making a case for that he wants the job and is up to the challenge!

  56. By Titus on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Favre will never be a coach. I am not saying that — look on the blog we were all on last night late– the 17-7 blog– I explained why he won’t coach. I also explained why I was so sure last night would be an upset and the Vikes would win– I also have reasons to believe Favre will return– but before I write why I can see into Favre’s mind and why he will come back, it won’t be to start every game, but he will be around to play if necessary.
    Something triggered my thoughts and I would say I am 95% certain Favre will be contemplating a return by May.

  57. By Titus on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Whoa, I am rambling around– sorry folks– not my best writing in that last post, but I think you get the idea— am tired and I am eyeballing the kitchen– gotta eat something.

  58. By Titus on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    I also want everyone to be prepared for Joe to have an off game here and there– please do not start calling for his head. Even a Kurt Warner in his prime had 5 interception days and lost games. I think the Lions are going to give us trouble on Sunday. I think we will win, but it will be tough. And Joe may have some growing pains.

  59. By animal26 on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Some people really are wishful thinkers, but I don’t think we can get anything for Jackson. heck, I don’t think we can even trade him for a football.

  60. By 4eversteve on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Tend to agree with you Titus as far as the Lions giving the Vikings a tough time, I think teams will make the adjustments accordingly and give Joe some looks that may confuse him early an often in games at the beginning of his career. He however seems to have the ability to not get rattle to easily a necessary trait when playing the quarterback position in the NFL

  61. By todd on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    you guys all thought this of t. jax when he had a handfull of games, the vikes should start Farve, It maybe his last game ever. I think we should draft a qb, at laest sor qb compittion.

  62. By animal26 on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    cant get anything*

  63. By matt on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    give webb the nod for the detroit game, favre has had a great career, let the kid play. In the off season let webb and bomar duke it out for starting QB. Trade McKinnie and draft the big O lineman from colorado. We need to work on our O line seriously, draft smart, we can also use a little more depth at corner apparently, someone that could also play free safety. Defineately attempt to hire favre on as a QB coach.

  64. By shane rodriguez on Dec 29, 2010 | Reply

    Joe Webb stood in the pocket like a veteran QB tuesday night and with his performance I think the Vikes should seriously consider giving him the starter position. Sure one game does not a QB make…..but dont forget his awesome college career !!!

  65. By Josie on Dec 30, 2010 | Reply

    Titus, growing pains for sure, they all have ‘em. And I also agree with you that when Webb has a bad game, we need to give him a chance to grow into the position. One terrific game does not make you a franchise QB, but it was sure nice to see EVERYONE on the same page last night.

    I’ve said it before & I’ll say it again. To watch Brett’s eyes light up when Webb was doing his thing was very telling of the man. Brett was watching every play, he was in the huddle on the sideline listening to the coaches talk to Webb & the receivers, and he was even out on the field celebrating Harvin’s completion.

    I really do think Brett is okay with the pressure being off of him, and I really do think he enjoyed watching the young man succeed last night. Brett coming back next year? I doubt it, and really I hope he doesn’t, unless it is as a Coach.

  66. By Josie on Dec 30, 2010 | Reply

    Matt,
    The ‘kid’ will have many, many, many years to play. If Brett can play, I say you let him go out one last time. He’s earned it after the beating he took this season. He is a warrior, and I for one do not want his last pass of his career, be his final play because of injury.

  67. By fmfan on Dec 30, 2010 | Reply

    Keep the OLD MAN on the bench and let the kid play. I want to see if he can throw for a td and not just run for one.

  68. By Randy on Dec 30, 2010 | Reply

    im not being a webb hater here, and i was just as excited last night as anyone else. but im not ready to call him the starter for next year or say we need to build the team around him, not after one game. i definately think we should keep him, but im not saying we should put all of our eggs in one basket after one good game.

  69. By Lance on Dec 30, 2010 | Reply

    GO JOE GO!!!

  70. By vikingsfan1955 on Dec 30, 2010 | Reply

    I see that webb can run the offence and if given a chance he can be the starter. I haven’t given up totally on t-jack because he can throw and evade defenders but its very apparent the webb is the future and we can take the division and possibly go all the way next yr.There will be a battle next yr for qb and I think jackson will edge him out but believe me we will be a force with both of the qb’s we have. I was disappointed in t-jack but he has shown he can be a good qb he just isn’t consistant and he has not had the team to run for a full season yet so he lacks a rythem with the recievers. I think we need to shore up the offensive line and then we will have a better chance. We will be in the playoffs next yr and we need to keep frazier as our head coach.

  71. By Old School on Dec 30, 2010 | Reply

    Thanks Randy, I think everyone jumping on the Joe Webb Band-Wagon have been so beat up this season that 17-26 passing for 0 TD’s Passing seems like he is the next Fran Tarkanton because he ran 1 in?! I think it was apparent that Philly didn’t show up and was over looking the Vikes the other night! Philly looked as if they were standing still out there and I don’t believe that this team and our secondary is that good…that was apparent this year. Those games happen and if these 2 teams played next week…….Philly would show and the Vikes would get showed the door.
    Thie team will need to draft a QB in the first round….PERIOD! Then they will need to rebuild the O-Line to protect him and we all can sit back and cross our fingers that it comes together before A.P. starts to go down that RB hill that they all do around that 6th or 7th year!
    ANYONE WHO THINKS WE SHOULD JUST GIVE JOE WEBB THE JOB AND NOT DRAFT A 1ST ROUND QB IS JUST CRAZY AND THEY WILL SEE THAT SUNDAY WHEN THE LIONS AND THEIR D-LINE PUTS ALL KINDS OF PRESSURE ON HIM AND THE LIONS HAND THE VIKES THEIR LAST LOSS OF THE SEASON.

    JUST BEING REAL!

  72. By Carl K on Dec 30, 2010 | Reply

    If we beat the Lions, the vikings will be picking around 14th in the first round. Andrew Luck, Ryan Mallet, Cam Newton and probablly Jake Locker could all be long gone by then. I like our Joe Webb over C. Newton and I think Jake Locker is just another Brady Quinn. If Luck and Mallet are off the board which I think they will be… we need to grab the top OT, which should be Nate Solder about at that 14th or 15th spot. Jake Locker was not impressive this year and he could fall into the second round like Clausen did last year.

  73. By Carl K on Dec 30, 2010 | Reply

    What we need is a veteran QB to mix with Webb and Bomar. Is Patrick Ramsey that answer, I don’t know. The only way we draft a rookie QB is if we are willing to move Webb to WR or cut Bomar.

  74. By wispurplehead on Dec 30, 2010 | Reply

    Gotta get a kick out of the posters that twist the thread to suit themselves. I did not read any post that said to only start next year with Joe. What is wrong with the fans showing some happiness after Joe’s performance. Going into this draft our focus should be the secondary and O-line. Why go after another QB? If we can pick up a cheep vet, fine. Wasting a draft pick on the QB position is nuts! Hey, I got an idea…let’s use the third draft pick! Oh wait…chilly gave it away so nevermind. I still like the idea of trying to get a new football for t-jack, but it will be hard to find a team to go that deep on him! For a change of pace, let’s see what Leslie feels we need after the season is over. I do have confidence in him to make some intelligent choices. We know from watching the “presser” that if Brett can go, he will start. Leslie stated that he is our current first string QB. Joe will be ready to take over if Brett goes down.

    And what difference does it make how the Eagles played. I think that they may have been looking past us, but the raw beat down administered by our defense kept them down. They could not adjust and if our secondary held on to a couple of the INT’s, it may have been even worse! We won a very well played game. It gave us a glimmer of hope in a otherwise uneventful season!

  75. By Titus on Dec 30, 2010 | Reply

    Old School needs a hug. Is there someone in his family that would be willing to do that?

  76. By Titus on Dec 30, 2010 | Reply

    Saying the Eagles did not show is ridiculous– why would they want to have an additional playoff game on the road? If they were shocked by our play, they had several quarters to make adjustments– it was more than apparent on our first defensive series that the Vikes came with attitude.

  77. By Titus on Dec 30, 2010 | Reply

    I do agree, though, with Old School, in that Sunday may be a whole different tale.
    Detroit will come ready to play and Webb may show his rookie side. That is understandable– even the Tom Bradys and Drew Brees of the NFL world have off days. To say Webb is not our man because he will have some growing pains is equally absurd as saying one good performance makes him our future. One strong performance as Webb displayed Tuesday certainly makes him a candidate for our QB– any draftee is an unknown in the NFL world. Joe shows a lot of promise– of course we try to get a couple more QBs for next year.

  78. By wispurplehead on Dec 30, 2010 | Reply

    I hope that the Lions are ready. If Brett gets the ok, we get to see him in the purple and gold one more time. Either way Joe is going to be suited up and he will be ready to take over. If he makes a mistake, we will see if he can overcome a mistake. Personally, I think he will be just fine.

    I would like to get a QB too, actually I would like to get Sage back.

  79. By DRS on Dec 30, 2010 | Reply

    The first thing the Vikings need is better line men on both sides of the ball, Draft them first. Then the Vikings need a better secondary on their defense. Try to draft and trade T-Jack for couple of secondary defensive men. Draft a good QB for a 3rd string QB and get in free agency a veteran QB as a back up to Joe or as a starter until Joe is fully ready to play.

  80. By Titus on Dec 30, 2010 | Reply

    DRS- my thoughts exactly.

  81. By Ricefield on Dec 30, 2010 | Reply

    Agreed.

  82. By CaribooBill on Dec 30, 2010 | Reply

    A LOT of good posts with good points being made. I think we should also target a wide receiver – even if we sign Rice (we must get this done). We need a deeeeep threat like Moss, keeping Harvin in the slot. Berrian hasn’t shown that he is the deep answer. BTW we still have a 3rd round pick – we traded a D lineman to Cleveland, just before the Moss trade.

  83. By Carl K on Dec 30, 2010 | Reply

    Titus – too funny… I agree Old School needs a hug lol. Webb has showed too much in preseason and in the last two games not to be in the mix for the starting job. Anybody that can’t get excited about a young QB playing well has issues. I would love to see Favre play one more game and go out a winner, but I think Frazier needs to mix in Joe Webb through out the game as much as possible. I am just dreaming hear but wouldn’t it be cool to see Favre toss it to Webb, and Webb then throws it back to Farve for a TD. That is the way I would send Favre off to retirement and the Hall of Fame.

  84. By wispurplehead on Dec 30, 2010 | Reply

    It would seem that many of us have the same thoughts. Our O-line, and secondary requires the use of our draft picks. Not sure what we will get for t-jak thou….don’t see getting much. Any way, it will fall in the hands of our staff!

  85. By fmfan on Dec 30, 2010 | Reply

    T-Jack will be a free agent come March so noboby in thier right mind will give away draft picks or players for him.

  86. By matt on Dec 30, 2010 | Reply

    T jack needs to go he could be a backup somewhere, maybe with the rams, he has been enough time to prove his worth, either get something for him or let him to to FA. Next we need to grab solder with our first pick and another OL with our second to rebuild our depleted OL. We need strength and good footwork at our tackle positions we have been missing for quite some time. Then address backups for our DL and secondary, let the QBs we have duke it out to be starter, with a good OL it makes a huge difference. Look at cutler this year, he went from good to a top rated QB as his line got in tune and blocks for him. They also need to give frazier a chance to rebuild this team, and for pete sake get a stadium deal going!!!!

  87. By DRS on Dec 30, 2010 | Reply

    Yes! An semi open air stadium! Good for the Cowboys, good for the Vikings!

  88. By chi town vike on Dec 31, 2010 | Reply

    To Carl K,
    It seems you have done your homework.I like your ideas in the draft. Who really knows about Joe Webb until he plays a full season. He appears to lack book smarts. Can he be a very good QB without being really intelligent or can he be like Doug Williams and just have football smarts. Will he be distracted by the trappings of a pro athlete or will he be grounded and humble? Will he believe the hype surrounding him or will he be focused on REALLY learning the position of pro QB? I’m asking you sincerly because I don’t want Bozos like arrow86-fred jones to put in their two cents….

  89. By chi town vike on Dec 31, 2010 | Reply

    Titus,
    You are 100% correct. We need to draft a QB. We need to have a competition in camp and throughout the pre-season. See who the team rallies around. It may be Webb or the drafted QB. Lets work on the future of this team rather than doing patchwork on the QB position. A veteran QB who could possibly squeeze out ten wins next year does not excite me. Furthermore, it wouldnt energize an ageing team…

  90. By Carl Brodin on Jan 1, 2011 | Reply

    Does anyone know what kind of a draft pick we got for Sage? I know we get one in 2011 and in 2012 conditional but what round and what are the conditions?

  91. By rico on Jan 1, 2011 | Reply

    Hi, i’ve been a fan since the days of foreman and fran and would like to see j webb get a shot a being the future qb of the organization. that run he had against the eagles , well lets just say it looked like vick was playing for the vikings for a split second. if he can continue to develope and increase his nfl iq and use his athletic ability like vick than i say give him a chance, especially since we under acheived this year. the other qb’s on the roster right now are not the answer and maybe webb is if he gets the right coaching and guidance.

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