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Analyzing The Vikings Defense

Posted by cjsiewert on December 15, 2010 – 4:33 pm

Aside from the fact that the Vikings suffered a deflating 21-3 loss to the NY Giants last Monday night, the defense played well as it has been since Leslie Frazier took over as interim head coach.

It may not look like any phase of the Vikings team played well by simply looking at the score, but when we take a deeper look into the game, it’s clear that the defense held its own throughout the contest.

Yes, the defense allowed a season-high 213 rushing yards, but if you take away both Giants RBs Brandon Jacobs and Ahmad Bradshaw’s longest runs – 73 and 48, respectively – that number is reduced to 92 yards and 1 less TD since Bradshaw’s 48-yard run in the 3rd quarter was good for a score.

The secondary also played quite well, picking off Giants QB Eli Manning twice in the 1st half. The first INT came on the Giants 3rd play from scrimmage where Vikings CB Frank Walker jumped in front of Giants WR Hakeem Nicks on a seem route down the right hash, picking off Manning’s pass and returning it 10 yards to the NY 34. The turnover resulted in a 31-yard FG by Vikings K Ryan Longwell.

Manning’s second INT came on the Giants 2nd play of the 2nd quarter. Vikings CB Asher Allen established position in front of Giants WR Mario Manningham – who was running a short slant route at midfield – marking Manning’s 11th INT against the Vikings in 5 games. The INT gave the Vikings the ball at their own 41, but they were unable to convert the turnover into points.

To go with the pair of INTs, the Vikings defense allowed Manning to complete a pedestrian 22 of 37 passes (59.5%) for 187 yards and 1 TD. The 59.5 completion percentage was Manning’s 3rd worst of the season. That low completion percentage is a reflection of the Vikings front 4 putting pressure on the Giants QB for much of the game.

Vikings DT Kevin Williams posted a season-high 6 tackles (3 for loss) while DE Jared Allen increased his consecutive games with a sack streak to 5 and now has 9.5 on the season, furthermore establishing his worthiness of a 4th consecutive Pro Bowl nod.

Other positive numbers for the Vikings defense include 6 tackles for a loss for -19 yards while allowing a 23% (3 of 13) 3rd-down efficiency for the Giants.


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130 Responses to “Analyzing The Vikings Defense”

  1. By mr smiff on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    I am NOT voting for Jared Allen to go to the Pro Bowl this year.

  2. By xvike on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    And why is that mr smiff?? because everyone else is playing poorly?? He is still one of the top DE’s in the league. Hes like 3rd place for most sacks for a DE. Leader has 11.

  3. By Shawn on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    nice point xvike … Allen has stepped it up the last 5 weeks, due to some great coaching by Frazier.

  4. By Shawn on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    I think Frazier gets some undue critism for having the 7th best defense in the league … despite the 2 worst safeties in franchise history

  5. By Shawn on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    I must say Mike Wobs … the fact we picked Eli Manning 2 times lol who hasnt

  6. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    What kind of analysis is this? Take away the two biggest runs and we did great?
    We allowed those two biggest runs. I don’t get the analytical skills on display. This is partly the mentality of an average or mediocre organization or individual: it’s okay, if we change a few statistics, we were not that bad.
    Let’s see, if you were a surgeon, and your patient died, but you told the patient’s family– well, the anesthesia went well, and if you look at the six hour operation, every cut was clean, except for that one where the surgeon sliced the aorta open.

  7. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    I didn’t complete my last sentence, sorry folks, a long day– but you get the picture.
    I started with IF– so if we analyze our play as this article does, what is our response? Oh, we played pretty good after all– or do we need complete transparency in our analysis? Is it me OR IS THIS LIKE TWILIGHT ZONE? This analysis is completely bogus– our defense gave up 213 yards or whatever– that is what they gave up rushing– you cannot pick and choose what plays to include in the numbers— 200 PLUS YARDS ON THE GROUND.

  8. By Shawn on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    @Titus … valid point … however if we are comparing they would have to cut 2 arteries not just the aeorta … sorry havent got my medical degree so my artery knowledge is limited lol

  9. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Shawn, funny. Very funny. You improved my analogy, but it was merely to make a point– we need to set the standards high, and if we do not reach those benchmarks, we are not allowed to qualify our performance– Superbowl teams do not do that. I am sure Bill Belichick would not even want that analysis on his team’s website– We need to have a high standard of excellence– or we will not be champions.

  10. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    The Vikings defense made a few key mistakes.

  11. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    It’s not the end of the world, it can be fixed.

  12. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Hi Mr. Jones.

  13. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    cj siewert is point out a positive way to look at the last game.

    It doesn’t take much to find the negative in anything. Any fool can find the negative. It sometimes takes genius to find the positive in a thing.

  14. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    There is no need to complain about any Viking player. If their performance is bad, they won’t be around much longer.

    Change is the one thing we are guaranteed.

  15. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Hi Titus

  16. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Change is not change until it’s change.

  17. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Fred, I grant the author of this article that yes, the d was not as bad as one might first think, and the d was not the main problem, our performance was not good– the Giants had a freebie. It looked too easy for them— they were so happy they were in Detroit– we did have a couple nice interceptions.
    Our main problem was a lack of offense– that wore our defense out.

  18. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    We do need to have high standards, no doubt.

    Players must accept criticism.

    Sometimes coaches put together a highlight film so that their players can see how good they are. Bud Grant did this before the SB vs. Miami Dolphins. I know…it didn’t work. But I bet it was not the only time he did that.

    Who would want to work in a place where only the negative was talked about.

  19. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    I am not happy with this season, maybe I am not even making sense– I am going cuckoo– I think we all believed this was our best shot in 12 years.

  20. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Titus, It was a disgusting game to watch. I forgot the game was on and missed most of it.

    Surely there were some good things that happened. The punt return by Camarillo was one of the best runs of any type I have ever seen. The man covered the whole field practically!!!

  21. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Any time that happens, there almost had to be some great blocking!!!!!!!!!

  22. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Titus, I know…we expected a Super Bowl.

    The Vikings have been a great franchise, and we have not experienced much losing.

    That’s why I worry about the attitudes of our fans. I think it matters.

  23. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Of course it matters. Words can build or destroy. Words fuel our thoughts which turn the crank of our actions. And very few people have the power to not allow others to affect them with words— look at how the bloggers on here respond to words! They swear, get heated, want revenge– and likewise, a positive word towards someone affects them as well.

  24. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Fred you sound like one of the more grounded and wise on here.

  25. By Rogerthevikefan on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    The only thing positive that happened was that it showed Tj was not and will never be the answer. His moronicness nearly cost use Petey.

  26. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Roger that was because TJack is our “mobile” QB. That never would have happened with the 41 yr old. Can we give Favre some juice and surgeries and bring him back?

  27. By Rogerthevikefan on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Looking forward to the draft there are a couple options at qb that could really work out Nick Foles from Arizona is a very good pocket passer who if he comes out will likely be drafted in the 2nd round. Then there is Ricky Stanzi from Iowa who also is a good pocket passer and likely will be drafted in the 4th round. Ricky may not have the biggest arm but he is very posed and last year lead the Hawkeyes to a lot of 4th quarter comebacks. So with all that said DRAFT RICKY STANZI.

  28. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Well,

    TJackson will only have so many more tries, unless of course Frazier is able to see some greatness in him.

    You never can tell. But like I said before, if they can’t play, they will be gone.

  29. By Vikingsfan4life on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Has anyone else thought about the draft next year? Like what position we will spend our first round pick on? The much needed safety position or the even more needed QB?

  30. By Vikingsfan4life on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    I thouht the best QB for us was Andrew Luck because he is a great pocket passer, but he will easily be taken first overall pick by the Panthers, so who would we get?

  31. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    1- Offensive Line
    2- Defensive Backs (Safeties and CBs)
    3. Defensive Line

    Free Agent Wide Receiver and QBs

  32. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Fred, if a high profile coach becomes available, like Billick, Parcells, Cowher, or Gruden, do we name one of them as head coach?

  33. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Titus, isn’t Frazier doing a good job?

    I think the Wilfs will give him the rest of the season regardless. There really is no reason to rush that decision.

    One thing about Frazier, he is defensive-minded. Most of the very successful coaches (in recent years) have come from the defensive side of the ball.

  34. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    I believe Frazier is doing good and of course he will finish this season. I was just wondering what you thought.

  35. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Eli Manning had a 48.2 % completion rate and a 55.6 QB rating as a rookie.

    It took Bradshaw a few seasons to even achieve 50%

    Lots of championship QBs have been tabbed in later rounds.

    The Vikings linemen and d-backs first. Besides, if you do not like TJack, why not Joe Webb?

  36. By DRS on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Titus, only if they can get their own staff behind them, because this team is still chilly willies staff.

  37. By DRS on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Give Frazier a chance. If he is smart he would get his own staff and fire the rest. Get rid of Chilly Willies dead wood.

  38. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Titus, those are all great coaches.

    But Frazier also comes from a long line of great coaches. Remember, Bill Walsh’s first year with the 49ers was like 2-14! Bud Grant was 3-8-3, if memory serves me right.

    So even if it is better to pick one of the coaches you mentioned, it will take time. Plus, they have to want to come here, which may be a big IF for some of those guys.

  39. By DRS on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    We need lineman on both sides of the ball. Fresh bodies is what is needed

  40. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    I think you can explain what happened to the Vikings, it’s like this:

    We had a great season in 2009, barely missing the Super Bowl.

    Sometimes when that happens people go “what do I have to do?”

    Then the banquet circuit.

    Some forgot to work out

    Some forgot how they won and created problems for the coaching staff.

    All the injuries were part of the poor preparation.

  41. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Too many pats on the back during the off-season.

    Some players just got a year older.

  42. By DRS on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Frederick Jones that maybe true, though we need to start someone who can have a winning season in a year or so. Do you not think?

  43. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Get a young Johnny Unitas (Joe Webb or TJack)

    Build the rest of the team up.

    Win the Super Bowl.

    Purple Rain, Purple Rain (We can all learn to love that song)

  44. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    DRS, well I try to think. Alzeimer’s hasn’t set in, and I hope it never does!!!

  45. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    DRS– Isn’t Frazier a Chilly Willy?

  46. By DRS on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Oops that should have been need to get someone.

  47. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    I already pointed out how Eli Manning and Terry Bradshaw did their first few years. Experience tends to be pretty important at the QB position.

    “Quarterbacks are like fine wine, they get better with age.” Bud Grant

  48. By DRS on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    He might be or maybe not. I saw a photo of him and chilly on the sideline. They looked like they hated each other.

  49. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Until you put new wine into old wineskins.

  50. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    We need a veteran QB. Preferably one who could start, but a quality backup is also important.

  51. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    You cannot put new wine into old wineskins.

    So we need to get a young wino?

  52. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    ———-or put the Savior at the Q

  53. By DRS on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Oh bring back, bring back them old purple people eaters to me. Oh bring back bud so we can get once more to the SB. A Vikings fan song.

  54. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    or allow budweiser at TCF stadium?

  55. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    actually I hope they don’t

  56. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    You don’t get the opportunity to play as an NFL starting QB often– I don’t see that TJack has studied diligently the past two years– he should have been so prepared. But then again, the crafty wily Favre had trouble this year too– the rest of the team was not there– usually our wide receiving corps is top notch– this year it was like the collection of misfit toys on the old Rudolph the Reindeer program. Merry Chr1stmas by the way.

  57. By DRS on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Have a great day one and all. May God bless you.

  58. By martin on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    take away this big play take away that big play we would be 9-4 …what a bs article

  59. By Sue G Vikes 4 Ever on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Frederick. Our veterans are getting older and slower. We need to draft some quality secondary adn o-line. We are so soft in these positions. Even if we brought in a seasoned QB, we would be in trouble.

  60. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Martin– agreed — read my first postings on here– about number 6 from the top. Ridiculous– and this is called analysis?

  61. By martin on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    0-8 vs winning teams …5-0 vs losing teams…3rd lowest points scored in the nfl…from last year to this …spielman has to be on the hot seat…next season if things remain the same he has to go…

  62. By Sue G Vikes 4 Ever on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Titus…I agree on “paper” we should be in the top 3 teams in the HFL, but we are not performing up to our potential. There have been too may off the field distracions.

  63. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Sue G.

    You really need to go back a few “blogs” that I wrote. I said exactly the same thing.

    Lots of people want us to use our first pick on a qb. We already have 2 young qbs. Drafting o-line, d-backs, and d-line should be the priority for the draft. Then we should look for a veteran QB, and probably Wide Receivers.

  64. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    depending on how the draft turns out, of course…

  65. By martin on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    titus… i agree with you…i guess this being the main vikings site it is not easy to get a balanced article…do any of the minnesota papers do critical blogs?..as a habs fan (sorry wild) the montreal gazette has a great site on the habs ..articles all day and life almost minute by minute bloging during the games

  66. By Sue G Vikes 4 Ever on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Sorry Frederick….I skipped thru most blogs,cuz i came in late

  67. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Sue G.–you are confusing me– not sure you agree with me- — I never said we were in the top three of the NFL– I said if we want to be at the top we need to hold a high standard. On paper, I said our receiving corps was mediocre with the exception of Rice who was not here half the season.

  68. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Sue G, I do it myself. It’s okay.

  69. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Titus, our receivers did not look good this year.

    Hopefully all these losses will be a fresh incentive for the Vikings to change for next year. A big turn around is possible. Revisit the 49ers of the 1980s and you will see some up and down years.

  70. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    The Vikings may have to cut some dead wood for next year.

    Administration, Coaching, and players. We could be looking at lots of changes, and hopefully a new stadium in MN. (Or remodel TCF?)

  71. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Martin, the Tribune might have a blog– I don’t follow it, though.

  72. By Frederick Jones on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Thank you all, for the sensible blogging tonight.

    We are more alike than different.

    Different opinions should be considered…

  73. By Sue G Vikes 4 Ever on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Titus…Sorry, I came in late and skipped most of the blogs…..but what about Harvin….despite his migranes, he is one of the top WR’s. My point was that we nearly won the NFC Championship game last year… and we lost no one( with the exception of Rice not getting surgery in the off season)

  74. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Sue G, no problem, I am letting off some complaining now that the season is truly over. What I hear so little of is Chester Taylor– when he was traded to our rival, I could not believe it. He was a play maker whether directly, or by blocking or contributing in other ways– he was so valuable— that hurt the team more than any single factor. Then Favre starting late, then the loss at NO was a significant blow to the psyche of the team– all off season everyone said we beat NO– then they beat us– followed by a home loss– at that point all the blaming and booing took over– and the negativity rode the team to where we are today.

  75. By Ricefield on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Wow! Ya’ll have been busy. Nice insights on how to fix the team next year. Prospective QB’s, acknowledging team weaknesses. Very interesting read.

    Thanks.

    Ya’ll obviously have better ideas about prospects and stats than I do.

  76. By Sue G Vikes 4 Ever on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    You are right…..except Chester

  77. By Ricefield on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Hold up Titus,

    I agree fan negativity and effect a team but there were things wrong with the team from the start. We do highlight the negative but there was more negative news about TEAM PLAY among other things and of course we’re going to talk about it.

    I’m all for highlighting the positive when there is positive to highlight but when there isn’t, well what should we talk about?

  78. By CaribooBill on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Sue – we lost Chester Taylor and Cedric Griffen and had no first round draft pick. I always thought it was a cheap trick to demote Chris Cook to the second round – maybe good business, but maybe poor employee relations. I made this point before – we stood still over the off-season and when you stand still, the other teams catch up or pass you.

  79. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Ricefield, read the sixth post from the top of this blog– you will see I am not for sugarcoating anything– but I do know all the screaming for chilly’s head during games messed with the team’s subconscious– not going to debate it, take too long if you don’t see it — just recall last night how you liked my post– same idea– your team leader who is orchestrating everything is called an imbecile by tens of thousands– it has to affect your confidence in his decision making– and yes chilly made some big blunders– so the screaming and booing only accentuated and exacerbated the seed in the teams’ mind– Not saying the fans were off on their as-sessment but at the time, the negativity did go overboard–

  80. By Shawn on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    My position need list … opinion of course

    1. QB
    2. SAFETY
    3. OT
    4. SAFETY
    5. WR
    6. WR
    7. OT

  81. By Shawn on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    i THINK THAT SHOULD BE THE PRIORITY LIST … BUT OF COURSE DRAFT BEST AVAILABLE, AND CLEAN REST UP IN FREE AGENCY …

    AND YES I HAVE SWITCHED FROM DONT BLAME O LINE TO … MCKINNIE HAS LOST “IT”

  82. By mr smiff on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    This is what happens when you rest on your laurels and take last season’s success for granted. This was supposed to be our SB year, but we did not make the necessary adjustments or preparations. I think by now we all have a grasp on what the major problems are and how to address them, so I won’t get into that. But I will say this. 20 million aside, Favre got one heck of a raw deal from the Vikings organization this year. He was made to come back and placed in a situation where for the most part, he had no choice but to fail. It saddens me that it took him being put out of commission for the first time in 18 years and TJack bombing on Monday night on week 14 for most of you fans to realize that. Favre deserved so much better, especially from us fans.

  83. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Here here! Mr Smiff– the longest post you have ever written and dead-on accurate.

  84. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Shawn I agree with your priority — QB is number one, hard to argue that and safeties– but I might want a WR sooner, depending on whether Harvin can be dependable– and if we keep Rice– isn’t Rice a free agent after this year?

  85. By vlad19 on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Wow, now if this is not making a silk purse out of the sow’s ear…. Is Mike Wobs serious???? Breaking down performance based upon SUBTRACTING TWO HUGE IMPACT PLAYS THAT ACTUALLY WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN TWO SCORES, ONE DIRECTLY???? If this logic is swallowed hard, it is like saying Adrian Peterson is a lousy back because 18 caries out of every game he averages about 2 yds per carry… but TWo rushes he breaks for 40 and 60 yds don’t have influence in the end result…. Friends, this is what bad teams do to keep the interests and optimism HIGH…. Frankly, I am as good a Vike fan as there is, but I sure do like reality – Like Les Steckel truly was a nut and carp coach – but guys, this team is NOT good. Spin it Wobs, but Leber sukked all season and no one says boo…. Allen is NOT Pro Bowl just because he is 3-4 or 5th doesn’t matter – little IMPACT.

  86. By Shawn on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    @TITUS … yea its a tough list to make with all the issues , i could switch a wr with a safety … and yes we have to resign Sidney

  87. By vlad19 on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    WELL said Mr Smiff — our offensive line ,ailed it in. Loadholt is a wash-up in waiting for waiver wire… McKinnie the example to Loadholt – lazy and slow and uninterested. Sullivan is puke, undersized and enjoys missing blocks per usual… Degeare???? You kidding me? I hate hearing excuses, “he is a rookie”… He is a professional, so enough D-3 level performance. Ryan Cook is probably the best performer presently. Don’t fool yourselves, Hutch was pretty bad all season – the injury is his early vacation….. Favre got toasted all year, adn all the “T-Jack” acolytes saw what “talent and speed” mean in the NFL – if you lack brains and composure and natural instincts. no matter how fast or far you run, you are still BAD. Favre was abused by our line and then the fickle fans! As bad as numbers were, he was the best performer we had on a football field this season – SAD fact kids!

  88. By arrow86 on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    There are many veteran offensive linemen coming up in free agency. If we can land a couple to shore things up, they will look a lot better in a hurry. I still feel with the organization clearing Favre’s salary off of the books, if they agree to stay at a similar payroll level or a $2-5million dollar increase, we could be back in it in a hurry next year. The other thing is, their may be more injuries in the O-line group than we will ever know about. The nagging injury that limits your speed and mobility. (Back, arm, knee, etc.). Get this team healthy in a hurry in the off-season. No waiting until training camp for surgery. Everyone healthy day 1. Get after the free agents early that can give us the greatest boost.

  89. By Shawn on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    I also figured with sidney and percy we need a 3 and 4 wr … would love to see Randy Moss take over for Berrian

  90. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Vlad– read the sixth and seventh post from the top– oh, by the way, I too, thought this was Mike’s article–it’s cj’s

  91. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    And Jerry Rice and Cris Carter. Marcus Allen at back.

  92. By arrow86 on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Is “Yosemite Sam” (Plaxico Burress) due for parole? He could be a cheap receiver who will need to put some cabbage back in his financial garden. We should expect more from Berrian next season. Other than the Zona game, he was MIA. We can’t trade him, too much money, too little performance.

  93. By vlad19 on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    The cost of the offensive line FIX is far too expensive to contemplate over the speculation of a free agent pick up… the cost is also the inevitable release of high hope performers like Loadholt and McKinnie – if any other team, those two would be shipped out. If you don’t have tackles at this level, you are dead in water for offense – note what Vikings were almost all season….

  94. By arrow86 on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    In tribute to the 50 year team and coach Grant. The Vikes should all wear throwback jersey’s and black shoes.

  95. By Shawn on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    @titus … lol what?

    @arrow86 … pfft unfortunately Berrian is signed through 2014…thanx chilly =(

  96. By vlad19 on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Touche Titus…. I didn’t realize it was not wobs, but whomever sure was walking on the sunny side of this street – the dysfunctional, ignore reality and take your meds on time side of the street…. Idiocy… Those two runs were the biggest difference maker in this stupid performance…. but take them away and what do you get?????? FICTION!

  97. By vlad19 on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Berrian through 2014……. hm, let me think about this…. don’t we need someone to arrange the deli meats and condiments in clubhouse after games….. THAT’s a job!

  98. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Shawn, just an idea for an experiment– Vikes like to be the QB graveyard– I think you said that right? — why not next year, for the 51st season bring in all hall of famers at every position– up to age 51–

  99. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    I just saw in the Tribune– a headline there was another tear in the dome and emergency evacuations occurred tonight.

  100. By Shawn on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Titus … if you are being sublime about Moss’s age hes only 33 … T.O. is 35 and had an off year in Buffalo last year

    and yes I was the qb graveyard guy

  101. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    No Shawn, no hidden agenda on my part– just having some fun. I am older than Favre and I am in the best physical condition ever– far be it for me to ever question someone by their age– I was poking fun at the Vikings and all the QBs.

  102. By PurpleParody on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    I think if Berrian gets better coaching he can return to par for a #3 WR. He still ahs the speed to stretch the field opposite Rice, while helping to open up holes in the middle for Harvin. I still have hopes for Ian Johnson too. I’ve been anxious for what he can add to the team when I see him on the field. That would pretty much close up the need for a WR.

    I think our main focus in the draft should be offensive line, and then defenders to build up the passing defense. Maybe if a QB with potential falls to the 4th round, we could grab him up as the next project of the Vikings. But we’re likely best off betting on Webb for the future, and grabbing up one more guy to stuff into the overcrowded graveyard until Webb’s ready.

  103. By Titus on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    In fact, this elephant is heading for bed.

  104. By Shawn on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    g’nite titus

  105. By Shawn on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    @purpleparody … using that logic and I dont disagree that berrian might be an average #3 … but you could say that across the board … McKinnie has not played to par and he also is signed through 2014 … Loadholt is only 24 and needs better coaching …. O LIGHT BULB MAYBE ALL WE REALLY NEED IS A BETTER O LINE COACH

  106. By Shawn on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Who is our O line coach lol

  107. By mr smiff on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Hmmm, Plaxico Burress isn’t a bad idea. And I agree with everyone’s opinion about the blog. Who is this clown trying to convince by putting a smiley face on what was a BAD perfomance by the Vikings D? Those two runs killed us! So we picked off Eli Manning twice. Big blasted deal! It’s Eli Manning! When this season is over, the Manning brothers will lead the league in interceptions!

  108. By arrow86 on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    Sometimes we have to study the bounce of a few acquisitions. The Bears looked awful last year. A new O-coordinator, and Peppers and Taylor added. They are going to be divisional champs. We’re in a better position now with our talent, than the Bears were last year.

  109. By Shawn on Dec 15, 2010 | Reply

    oops i mispoke berrian could be an average number 3 but is not at the moment

  110. By Shawn on Dec 16, 2010 | Reply

    @arrow86 … absolutely

    Bears added 2 coaches OC and OL and couple free agents and they got healthy …. Urlacher was out last year hurt them pretty bad

  111. By mr smiff on Dec 16, 2010 | Reply

    Halleberrian should take some of that contract money and invest in a 3-year supply of Stick’Em.

  112. By PurpleParody on Dec 16, 2010 | Reply

    Shawn – What I’m saying is that Childress let these guys slip too much over the offseason. I think Frazier will be different. He appears much more motivational to me just through the press conferences. If he can find some more guys with a motivational sense to replace himself at D-Coordinator and our O-Coordinator (last I heard he was signed with a college for next year) the guys should be much more ready next season.

    Berrian used to be relatively decent as our #1 WR, and I agree that McKinnie appears to look like he can still be a respectable LT if someone can get his head into the game. But I still want to see an improvement on the O-line one way or another.

  113. By PurpleParody on Dec 16, 2010 | Reply

    Maybe our offensive line can still become a good group, but Hutch appears to be nearing the end of his career and overall they appeared far too brittle this season. All three men in between the tackles have been injured bad enough to be ruled completely out of at least one game. With only 3 backups for the O-line, that leaves the team extremely weak at the area that is generally considered the toughest, least injured group of guys on any team.

    I don’t know how the injury bug bit so hard this year, but we need to do something to cure the disease.

  114. By Shawn on Dec 16, 2010 | Reply

    @purple … its our RB coach going to Colorado to be the OC … and I was serious maybe the o line coach should be fired whoever he is … because none of them have played to potential … McKinnie and Hutch made the pro bowl last year and they havent performed

  115. By Shawn on Dec 16, 2010 | Reply

    Personally I think Frazier needs to win 2 more games to be the for sure coach next year … its got to be tough on him to have chillys coaches around him

  116. By mr smiff on Dec 16, 2010 | Reply

    PurpleParody, McKinnie is not a child. He is a grown@ss man and a professional. In other words, he gets paid a lot of money to protect his qb. However, he has failed dismally in that regard. How many more qb’s must suffer before he “gets his head into the game?”

  117. By PurpleParody on Dec 16, 2010 | Reply

    Shawn – I agree, and I really didn’t even think those two deserved to go to the pro-bowl last year. I never really thought that Favre had great protection, but having a healthy Rice, the speed of Berrian, the rookie of the year in the middle, and AP and Taylor running the ball kept defenses too busy to give Favre a whole lot of trouble. A healthy Favre is going to pick the defense apart with that many weapons around him. He didn’t have enough of those weapons early in the season (Rice gone and no more Taylor), and by the time the weapons had arrived he was too injured to make use of them when defenses left them unaccounted for. Favre may be the iron man, but his performance has always had severe drops when he’s playing with injuries. That’s as clear now as it was after he got hurt in NY.

  118. By Shawn on Dec 16, 2010 | Reply

    @purple … I agree , he basically had percy at WR all year , played better for 4 games with Moss … and I have never blamed him for the issues this year … I have been griping about the recievers … and am coming around to OL

  119. By PurpleParody on Dec 16, 2010 | Reply

    Smiff – I agree that’s the way it SHOULD be with how much they’re paid, but reality so often has a way of not resembling what things SHOULD be. That’s why there are so many coaches on a team, because they do the work to make sure these guys are living up to the standards that are being set of them. Since we’re stuck with these players who have the potential, it seems to be the better option to find coaches who are more likely to bring that potential out. Cutting a coach hurts only the owner’s pocket book. Cutting a player has the added pains of a higher amount of money lost (starters at least tend to earn more money than coaches), and counting against the team’s salary cap. So I’m all for finding new coaches that can remind the offensive linemen to care about protecting the QB more than their next record label.

  120. By mr smiff on Dec 16, 2010 | Reply

    I think I’ll call it a night. Laters.

  121. By mr smiff on Dec 16, 2010 | Reply

    ….But I do see your point, PurpleParody. Goodnight.

  122. By PurpleParody on Dec 16, 2010 | Reply

    Good night Mr. Smiff

  123. By SmileyStar on Dec 16, 2010 | Reply

    We need some experience in the secondary, not fresh blood. Would like to see Favre brought back to the Vikings next season as the #2 QB behind Joe Webb. We’ll see how Joe does the rest of this season.

  124. By DRS on Dec 16, 2010 | Reply

    Remind me why Minnesota built this metro dome? Maybe they should remove the roof and play in it as an open air stadium. They would save on the energy bill.

  125. By Justin on Dec 16, 2010 | Reply

    @DRS

    Ask the New York guys that built it.

  126. By DRS on Dec 16, 2010 | Reply

    Justin, I would ask the state of Minnesota as well.

  127. By Andrew Chatelain on Dec 16, 2010 | Reply

    Also Mike Wobs, you’re an idiot.

  128. By patrick on Dec 16, 2010 | Reply

    “Yes, the defense allowed a season-high 213 rushing yards, but if you take away both Giants RBs Brandon Jacobs and Ahmad Bradshaw’s longest runs – 73 and 48, respectively – that number is reduced to 92 yards and 1 less TD since Bradshaw’s 48-yard run in the 3rd quarter was good for a score.”

    but they allowed 213 rushing yards.

    by that logic, gee, take away tavaris’ incompletions and interception, and he has a perfect quarterback rating!

    I wish the vikes would have picked up Al Harris when GB cut him…

  129. By vikings4 on Dec 16, 2010 | Reply

    keep frazier hire new staffs

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